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sense of security that this happened here. >> hard to believe, all right. sara sidner thanks for that excellent report. tomorrow we'll take a look at the rise of hate in europe. erin burnett out front starts right now. president trump bragging about finding the magic wand to create manufacturing jobs on the same day general motors slashes more than 14,000 jobs. plus, the president said tear gas wasn't used on children at the southern border. the pictures seem to tell a different story. breaking news into cnn, special council out with a late court filing on paul manafort. potentially significant details here, we're going through it at this hour. let's go "outfront." president trump moments ago bragging that he has found the magic wand for american manufacturing. on the same day general motors,
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the nation's largest carmaker announced it's cutting more than 14,000 jobs. here's donald trump tonight. >> the previous administration, they said manufacturing's never coming back, it's gone. you need a magic wand. well, we found the magic wand, and that's actually -- that's actually going to be increasing by a lot in the next short while, because we have a lot of companies moving in. >> he didn't say which ones, but here's what we know, the magic wand thing was eight hours after this. >> this news just into cnn, general motors is cutting staff and closing plants. cnn has just learned that gm will cut 15% of its salaried staff. >> breaking news on the future of general motors right now. we're hearing they're slashing jobs. >> you know what, at first, before this whole magic wand business, the president was angry.
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mary barr was at the white house today and the president slammed her personally. >> we don't like it, i believe they'll be opening up something else, and -- i was very tough, i spoke with her, when i heard they were closing, and i said, you know, this country's done a lot for general motors. hopefully she's going to come back and -- i told her, i'm not happy about it. >> making it personal. one thing is for sure, it is political for the president, because it shows that president trump's promise on car jobs, at least as of this evening appears false. here he is just last year, while visiting a community near the general motors plant that is shutting down in ohio. >> i was looking at some of those big once incredible job producing factories. and my wife melania said, what happened? i said those jobs have left ohio. they're all coming back.
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they're all coming back. they're coming back. [ cheers and applause ] don't move, don't sell your house. >> don't sell your house. those are painful words to hear played back today. but they're part of a long litany of promises that trump made to car country voters, promises that did net him votes. trump won trumbolt county, nearly a 30 point swing from 2012. a nearly 30 point swing based on an explicit promise of car jobs to voters there and in other states where gm tonight is now closing plants amid mass layoffs. >> you people know something about the car industry, i'm bringing it back to the state of michigan, right? >> we have many car companies coming back in, they're going to michigan, ohio, they're going to states where they want to be. >> you look at what's happening with ford and general motors in
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michigan and ohio, you look at the tremendous number of jobs that are being announced in so many different fields. >> here's what we're looking at tonight. more than 14,000 layoffs in those states from general motors. reality can be tough to take for this president, we all know that. tonight he's saying the layoffs have nothing to do with him or his tariffs. >> not tariffs, that has nothing to do with tariffs. the car was not selling. >> okay, cars were not selling. true, there's another problem, though. today general motors press release said trade costs are among the head winds general motors is facing, echoing a dire warning from the car company this summer, that if the president had read it, foreshadowed today's bad news. increased import tariffs could lead to a smaller gm p.m. a reduced prerns at home and abroad and risk less, not more american jobs. well, that was -- it looked like
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a foreshadowing of where we are, that is tonight, mass layoffs announced and a president who at the same time is bragging that he has a magic wand that has fixed american manufacturing. pamela brown is live outside the white house tonight. pamela, the president is in mississippi tonight. that's where he's bragging about his so-called magic wand. >> yeah, that's right, erin. the president responding to this announcement from gm that it will be slashing jobs and closing plants by first criticizing mary barra, and then touting just moments ago at this rally in mississippi, that the trade deals he's been making will lead to more companies coming to the u.s. the president didn't specify which companies he's talking about, he only said that he's found the magic wand when it comes to manufacturing, what we do know is that this move by gm goes against one of the president's key promises. he's made the revival of the manufacturing industry a focus
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of his, a priority in his administration, and he has a track record of publicly criticizing companies that either shut down or move abroad as he's now doing with gm. we know he talked to mary barra, the ceo, she was at the white house meeting with larry kudlow, in what was a preplanned meeting according to the white house. he claims he was tough with her. he did make reference to the financial bailout of gm many years ago, he also said that she needs to move something else to ohio and find a car that sells better. erin? >> family brown, thank you very much. the president of course upping the ante on his tariff talk, including a 10% tariff on the iphone. so that's a 10% increase on the iphone. a general motors plant is scheduled to close amid these layoffs today. i appreciate your time.
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this all happened this morning, and now within the past hour, the president's come out and sid he's got the magic wand when it comes to american manufacturing. your reaction? >> well, it's insulting to the 2,000 workers in our factory locally, and almost 15,000 workers in michigan and ohio, not to mention the 4 to 5 time spin-off. you're talking 50, 60,000 people, and the president says he's got the magic wand. it's insulting, and he did not lift one figure. sherrod brown called him, we sent the president letters to try to get him engaged in helping us figure out what the future of this facility is, he was sworn into office. weeks later we lost the third shift at our plant. he got rid of the fuel efficiency standards, i warned him not to do that, two weeks later, we lost the second shift, and now the plant is idle.
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>> obviously this is a significant plan as are the others, we're talking as many as 15,000 jobs that are going to be lost here. i want to play some of what the president said about this specifically, here he is. >> i was very tough. i spoke with her when i heard they were closing. and i said, you know, this country has done a lot for general motors, you better get back in there soon, that's ohio. and you better get back in there soon. we have a lot of pressure on them. >> that she, the her is mary bar remark but, you know, he's saying i threatened, i'm not happy with her, you better get back in there soon. you're a democrat, do you support the way he's talking and what he's saying now? >> let me just be clear, i'm not trying to be political. this president did not lift one finger, he's got executive time all day, he spends time on twitter, he does nothing but try to divide the country and start culture wars.
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behind the scenes the american worker is getting screwed by a company that got one of his huge tax cuts. if you look at what happened to general motors, they got the auto rescue package that mitt romney was saying let detroit go bankrupt and democrats stuck their neck out. they got a huge tax cut to the tune of $150 million this year, they turn around and cut 15,000 jobs and the stock price goes up 6%. all the executives are making a lot of money. i don't know how much mary barra made off of that today, but all the wealthy people made money and all the people in youngstown and detroit got pink slips. that's a broken economy, and the president has made that worse, not better. he's not lifted a finger for gm, try to get a vision together for communities like ours. >> so -- they are saying they're laying off 25% of their executives as well. to make the point within gm, there's going to be pain among all the ranks, when the
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president says that he is now going to take them on, i guess the question is, do you believe any of that. here's what he said, even last year, to your point he's been saying he's going to bring these jobs back. today he said he's mad at mary barra. here's the promises he's made to your state. >> those jobs have left ohio. they're all coming back. they're all coming back. coming back. don't move. don't sell your house. >> was he just naive or in your view that was all just politics, he didn't care? >> you know, the president daily, hourly, you know, minute by minute makes political statements, he makes statements that are going to get him in the news, he tells people what they want to hear, and here's the reality that's happening today, erin, is that the side show that we have with the trump
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administration is facing a reality check today in detroit and youngstown, ohio, the heart -- being a president is hard work, it takes a vision, it takes a plan. it takes getting the government to do public/private partnerships to work closely with business in order to grow the economy, it's not about sending out tweets. it's not about giving speeches at rallies, it's about rolling up your sleeves and doing the hard work. the president has no industrial policy for the united states, he has no manufacturing policy for the united states. he's a one-trick pony where he said, if you cut taxes for the we wealthy, that investment will trickle down, we've been trying that 30 years, and the plant used to be 16,000 workers now it's down to zero. the supply chain is wiped out, we have to get away from this supply side economics, we have to start reinvesting back into the workers and the white collar workers as well, the president doesn't have a plan to do that.
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>> i appreciate your time tonight, thank you very much. next, breaking news mexico tonight demanding the united states investigate the use of tear gas on migrants at the u.s. border. this after the president made this baffling claim. >> children? >> we didn't, we don't use it on children. >> doesn't seem to be what the pictures show. plus, republicans and james comey squaring off over demands he testify, the chairman of the judiciary committee is out front. plus, breaking news this hour, dramatic develop, the special council is just out with a new court filing. accusing paul manafort of lying. and there's specifics. what could this mean for the president and his former chairman? ♪
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agents. [ screaming ] >> reporter: desperation turns to anger. as migrants overwhelm mexican police and storm the u.s. border. hundreds of migrants, part of the caravan of central americans who have been moving north for weeks. that first protested then grew more aggressive. the president saying the situation called for the use of force. >> they had to use, because they were being rushed by some very tough people, and they used tear gas. here's the bottom line, nobody's coming into our country unless they come in legally. >> the u.s. border patrol says four of its officers outfitted in riot gear were hit with rocks but not injured. they deployed tear gas and shot tether balls to disburse the crowd. video captured the my grantses
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as they ran toward the border and then fanned out looking for any weak point. one mother is dragging her children away from the conflict and smoke. one of her kids in diapers. many of the my grants are stone called criminals and using it to push his agenda. congress, fund the wall. at issue, whether thousands of migrant who is caravan from central america will ever be allowed the opportunity to have it. the number of asylum applications at legal border crossings has diminished to a trickle. >> the protest and border confrontation won't help their cause. >> if they were truly asylum seekers, they would have walked up with hire hands up. dozens were arrested on the u.s. and mexican sides of the border. those arrested will be allowed to make an asylum plea and be
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prosecuted for any crimes they may have committed. mexican authorities say law breaking migrants will be deported to their home countries. on both sides of the border there is great tension. on the u.s., more border patrol agents are being brought in from other states to california. here on the mexican side of the border, very heavily armed police, military and national police throughout the area around the border to try to prevent immigrants from coming up in this area, and prevent what happened on sunday from happening again. >> miguel, thank you. i want to go to brandon judd, president of the national border control council and juliet kayyem. juliet, the president is saying tear gas fine, but we didn't use it on children. obviously reuters has these pictures that they say clearly show that it was.
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>> yeah, there were children in the caravan, we know that. the president has admitted it. they admit tear gas was used. put two and two together and you get four, whatever. the president says we should welcome a review of what happened, no one wants this to happen to cbp. i do not believe that cbp agents woke up that morning wanting to use tear gas on women and children. it was a crisis created by rhetoric and policy from this administration that put them in a position that they didn't need to be in. and i think it's worthy of a review that mexico is asking. >> is there any defense for using tear gas on children? >> first and foremost the tear gas was not deployed at the children, the tear gas was deployed to disburse the crowd. the children were being used as human shields so these grown males could stand behind them and throw rocks. i have worked groups in the desert.
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>> even if that's true, and i'm not saying it is, even if that's true and those women and children were being used in that way, would it be okay to tear gas them? >> under the obama policy, absolutely. this policy we used was an obama written policy and it was used in 2013 at the same port of entry. this was between the ports of entry, where people were trying to enter the country illegally instead of trying to do it legally. we look at the coverage and say this is disparate coverage, why wasn't this covered in 2013, all of a sudden it's an issue now when we're acting under the obama policies. >> juliet? >> i've been hearing this talking point, more specifics would be helpful from the union you remember about what you're talking about. i don't want to get into the details. what we do know, and what you and the union wanted was more aggressive use of force at the border. you got it, you got military
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support, which you asked for, you got it. to be surprised -- >> that's completely -- that's absolutely not true. >> excuse me, sir. you didn't ask for more use of force. >> we absolutely didn't ask for more use of force. when the commissioner appointed by president obama, when he came to me and said, brandon, we really need to implement this use of force policy, will you do it without negotiating it? and negotiate it later on down the road? i said absolutely, we have to take a look at our use of force policies, the national border patrol council, and border patrol agents have never called for more use of force at the border. and to say that is completely and totally not true. >> so that's a no -- that's actually helpful to me -- >> let's look at who put these children -- >> let me finish the point about use of force. that's actually really helpful to know that the head of the union is not asking for more use of force at the border, at the
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same time that the president is saying that you asked for military support at the border, so if the president is -- >> military support -- >> i'm glad to hear it, i'm not supportive of military use at the border, but going back to what happened yesterday, this is consistent with what the president has done to cpb, a professional group of law enforcement individuals, starting with the muslim ban, surprising them at the border, so they don't know what's going on, to the family separation, the cpb agents were having to act as baby-sitters because there was no policy in place, to now yesterday, where a crisis -- and i put it in quotes, led to this use of tear gas. this is not how a president ought to treat a professional law enforcement agency that has a serious and law abiding national security mandate, which is to protect all of us, which we're grateful for, at the borders. >> brandon, what's your response
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to that. are you being put in a position where you're doing something that you find morally and ethically wrong? >> no. >> which i assume is how you feel about tear gassing children, whoever they're attached to. >> absolutely not. i would ask, where was your guest during the obama administration, when we were doing the exact same thing? where was your gas during the obama administration -- >> you tear gassed children then too. >> in 2013, look at the history, again, what we're doing is -- >> so there's no -- >> we are being put -- >> so there's no specific thing -- >> we are being put in a situation, where the rhetoric of military being on the border means more use of force. that's not true. the military is on the boarder to build our barriers, to be our eyes, to see what's going on, to direct our agents. the military is not on the border to use force, but to say the military on the border is to be used as force. that's completely not true, and that's rhetoric and that's dangerous. >> that's a red herring,
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actually. the truth is, and we know from the president's own statement -- either the president is right or you're right. i'm going to go with the president, and if there's a disconnect maybe you can resolve it with him. the president has said the military was being deployed too, not just supporting and build the walls or fences or whatever. but also to protect cbp agents. >> absolutely. >> mr. judd is denying that they asked for additional use of force mandate. this 2013 thing in the obama administration, i'd love for -- if the union could -- if you guys could release something about what that was. >> look at the union tribune. the san diego union tribune -- >> i am going to give you the benefit of the doubt. let me finish my point. i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say this, why every time that you have to defend an action by president trump, whether it's family separation, whether it's this. you invoke either president bush or president obama regardless of the fact that you in fact have
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asked for these greater powers for these changes in policy, are you trying to tell the american public there's been no change in policy between donald trump and barack obama, because donald trump does not believe that? if you're inconsistent with the president, it would be great to get some clarity. >> there's no inconsistencies, you're saying i invoked obama -- can you tell me when i've done that. >> you did just say that -- >> well -- >> that's okay. >> you did. you did. >> again, this is the rhetoric that is dangerous. if the public wants to make an opinion -- >> brandon, can i hone in on one specific point. i know we're talking about a lot of things, but on one specific point when i asked about tear gas, you said obama did it too. and you guys weren't upset about it then, why are you upset about it now. >> i did. but your guests said every time something happens i invoke obama. that's not true. again, look at what the guest
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said, i invoked obama during this interview, because this is exactly what happened, this was an obama era policy that we were following, what we did was written by president obama. your guests said that i zwant more use of force at the border, that's absolutely not true. and again, i want the american public to have all of the facts to be able to make an informed decision based upon the facts, not rhetoric. let's look at the facts, the facts are, the policy written under president obama allowed us to use tear gas to disburse a crowd that was very dangerous, and let's be clear -- >> but, let's be clear on something. the crowds are bigger and they're rushing now, why are they doing that? because they're not able to get asylum when they come in, because the president has essentially shut down that. because they're not feeling welcome on the borders. i'm not commenting on what kinds of people they are or aren't.
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you're in a position where you're much more likely to use tear gas. >> it's rhetoric. >> we can only -- >> i think it's important that you not call -- >> so are we going to talk about facts? >> let me finish my point. any time anyone disagrees, you say it's rhetoric or not facts. all we're saying is that president trump has made it clear that the policies have changed at the border, any time anyone criticizes that, you just invoked that the policy had not changed. regardless, regardless no cbp agent should be put in a situation where tear gas should be deployed against women and children. we should welcome a review. by the way my name is juliette kayyem. what's more important here, is that the president of the united states has changed the policies. there's no question about that, and either you disagree with him and say, that's just a bunch of
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rhetoric or that's just a bunch of bologna or you agree with him that the policies have changed. >> you're not naming the policies that have changed. but erin, let's address your point. >> the policy has changed. >> the reason why we're being put in this situation is because we're seeing caravans that are larger and larger and larger. we can only process so many people at the ports of entry legally. because they don't want to wait for a legal process, they put us into these situations where we have to take them into custody. >> i understand your point, but can i ask you one important question. do you believe president trump's policy or rhetoric, has resulted in people thinking they will not be processed and therefore why bother, i'm going to rush illegally? >> no, in fact, today -- >> you just have all these extra
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thousands of people. >> the president said today, as long as they do it legally, and the legal process is to present yourself at a port of entry and ask for asylum. as long as they do that, he is supporting the legal process, he is not supporting the illegal process, and nobody should support the illegal process, otherwise we get the chaos that we just saw. >> thank you both very much. i want to end where we began. the president of the united states threatened to shut down the border completely. which would indicate that things are not business as usual. i'm making that obvious point. a major development from the special council's office. paul manafort -- they're accusing him of lying even after he pleaded guilty. what does this mean? the former campaign chairman for the president of the united states and the president. plus mia love taking on the president after he mocked her for losing. >> what did he have to gain by
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about? and if this happened, what does it mean for this plea that he -- agreement that he entered into. >> the plea talks at this point are over. the lingering question after this filing is what exactly did paul manafort lie about. the special council will only say he lied on a variety of matters, in this filing, they're going to expand upon exactly what he lied about in a future court filing. remember, paul manafort has been working with mueller's attorney since he pleaded to those two charges in september. now the special council calling off the cooperation saying in that filing, just moments ago, paul manafort lied to the fbi on a special council's office. no more talks, no more opportunity to cooperate. and they're ready for that federal judge to sentence paul manafort. the filing doesn't really specify, how he lied, what he lied about, we know that manafort has been meeting with mueller's team for two months now. that was all in exchange for the
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possibility that they would ask for a lesser sentence on the two charges that he pleaded guilty to. one of them was conspiracy against the u.s. another conspiracy to obstruct justice because of his attempts to tamper with witnesses. another interesting thing here, on top of those charges, manafort was found guilty by that virginia jury on eight counts back in august. in that case, he faced up to 20 years on that conviction, that sentencing was also on hold in that case. now, everything is off the table here, mueller's team, they're calling off those future talks, saying to the judge, let's get right to sentencing, manafort meanwhile saying he was truthful, he didn't lie, now it's up to the judge to see how this moves forward. >> thank you very much. you're looking at decades behind bars. i want to go to the current chairman of the house judiciary
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committee congressman, i appreciate your coming on the show. first your reaction to this breaking news. paul manafort lied to the fbi and the special council after he pleaded guilty, after he agreed to cooperate, spent two months doing so. they're saying a variety of lies and a variety of matters, your reaction. >> well, any time you lie to the fbi it's a serious matter, obviously we have a dispute here about whether or not he did that we don't even know what the basis of the claim on the part of the special council is in terms of what it is that he may have lied about. that's why we have courts and that's why that matter will proceed. >> so you now would have a position if this does go ahead, where manafort's only way out of a lifetime behind bars because of his age and these counts would be a presidential pardon. should that still be on the table for the president? >> well, certainly presidents always have the pardon power,
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but they need to use it advisedly and we don't have the facts here to know whether or not it would be appropriate. at this point in time i think we need to let that process proceed. the special council is attempting to get mr. manafort's cooperation, they don't believe they have gotten it. so they're back to court it sounds like. >> when you say advisedly, you're withholding full judgment, but from what we know what he's done up to this point, would you think it merited a pardon? >> well, again, i think you have to wait and see what the final outcome is, what kind of sentence is imposed upon him. there's still a long way to go in that matter, but it's a serious crime he's accused of and he's been convicted, president's should use that pardon power advisedly, but they should use it when they have all the facts and the facts justify mercy. i'm not in a position to pass
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judgment -- >> i'm emphasizing he's been convicted. i want to ask you about what else is happening today with your committee, republicans subpoenaing comey and lynch. this is all about testifying behind closed doors next week. comey is saying, if i do it, i want it to be public, end of story, your committee making it more personal today, saying, and let me quote the tweet, comey had plenty of time for public appearances between his book tour and tv. talk shows, this isn't showtime, it's congressional oversight to ensure there's accountability to make sure there were decisions made by the doj in 2016. chairman comey says he's happy to do it, but oath if it's in the open. what's the harm in saying yes and letting it be public? >> well, a big problem. first of all, as director of the fbi, james comey never ever conducted an interview like that in public. we're just talking about paul manafort, i'm sure none of those
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interviews were conducted in public. we're about gathering the facts, we're near the end of this, we've had more than a dozen other witnesses testify on the record under oath, behind closed doors, and that's what you do when you're gathering information, so that other witnesses don't hear the testimony of the people you're trying to get to testify. he's one of the last ones, and he should cooperate, that's what he -- as the fbi director expected of everyone who received a lawfully issued subpoena, issued by the fbi. and then multitude of investigations they've engaged in, when you have a public hearing, each member of congress gets five minutes to ask questions. following all of the work by the independent council -- the inspector general and the committee and the people we've intervi interviewed, we have hundreds of questions to ask him, and it's not an appropriate forum to do it in a public setting like that, he needs to come in and answer the questions that we
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have, that's all we ask, we're trying to get to the bottom of this, and if he's worried about transparency, we're happy to make that transcript available to the public after the work is done. >> and video? transcript and a video? >> we've not done it under video before, that's certainly a possibility. i haven't given much thought to that, but we've definitely transcribed these interviews. we have not videoed any of them to this point. and making them available is something we intend to do for all of the interviews we conducted. >> quickly, before we go, since these e-mails are of importance to you. ron johnson on your company, trey gowdy, they are interested in pursuing ivanka trump's e-mails, do you support that? >> well, certainly to be consistent they need to inquire about what occurred there, very no problem with that, i do
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think, of course, it's very different to send private e-mails about matters that are not classified information. there's a criminal penalty imposed for doing that when you have classified information that is transmitted improperly as was the allegation. and i think the facts now support with regard to hillary clinton. certainly when things like this come up, it's important people understand, they need to make sure that they're doing what they can. and it's awfully tough as everyone knows when you're sending e-mails about a lot of different things to make sure that you're doing it according to the rules in the white house or wherever you're doing it. >> i'm sure hillary clinton would agree with you. thank you very much. i appreciate your time, chairman goodlatte. president trump trashing his own administration's report on climate change.
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here's what the president said as he left the white house today. >> i've seen, i've read some of it, and it's fine. >> economic impact -- >> i don't believe it. >> you don't believe it? >> no, no, i don't believe it. >> so just to be clear, you couldn't be more clear, right? he's disagreeing with a report from his own administration. 13 federal agencies in the trump administration, 1,000 people contributing to it, including 300 scientists. that's the trump administration. with me now, reich and moore. you get 13 agencies, 1,000 people, 300 scientists, he doesn't care. he says it's dead wrong, what it
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concludes that the economy could shrink by 10%? >> when i first came to washington, there was another report that came out prepared by thousands of government scientists and it was called the global 2,000 report, it reported the world was going to come to an end by 2000. just because you get a multiagency report that things are going to happen doesn't make them true. i'll tell you what would be economically devastating to the economy, and that is going to 100% renewable energy, and not using any of our fossil fuels, our natural gas, oil, coal. we have more of these than any other country in the world. we're the new saudi arabia of energy production, and to shut that down would be devastating to the american economy in a way that these scientists don't take into account? >> well, anybody who says, and steve moore, i really respect
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you, and you're a good guy, but let me just say, anybody who says that it is going to be too expensive to deal with climate change has not experienced climate change, doesn't know what's in these reports. more and more americans have experienced this directly. i was here last week in the bay area of san francisco. i and my family breathed in a lot of the smoke from the wildfires that set california ablaze, and by the way, it's not just bad forest management, it has to do with climate change. more and more americans are dealing with floods and hurricanes and droughts, people understand that the costs are huge, and by the way, the costs of dealing with climate change, relative to the cost of climate change are very small. it's not a matter of 100% going to wind and solar, it's a matter of doing more than we are doing now. and what donald trump wants to do is not only get out of the paris accords, but also give up the clean power plant rules and the fuel economy rules and
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basically say to big oil and big coal, just go on, be as polluting as you possibly can, and make life impossible -- not only on this planet but the united states. >> at this point, they also are going against -- the president is going against specifically his own team, right? the people who are supposed to get up every day and be motivated to do their best and work for president. the thousand of them that worked on this, their work is a bunch of bologna. it's not the first time -- in fact, he did that -- we know he's done it with russian med e meddling. just last week he did it to the cia, when it comes to the saudi prince ordering the killing of jamal khashoggi. he was asked specifically about the cia assessment. and why he didn't believe it. it's not definitive. >> we are with saudi arabia, we're staying with saudi arabia. >> steve, you know him, why does
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he not trust the people who are working for him and this country. who have chosen to dedicate their lives to public service. he denigrates and humiliates their work in public, why? >> neither of you addressed my >> well, you never addressed my last answer. by the way, we had president obama who as recently as five or six years ago was running around the country saying we had to use solar power because we're running out of oil and gas, now we have more oil and gas than we can possibly use. i mean, a lot of these -- >> steve, you're not answering erin's question. >> one other point -- >> erin's question is this president lives in a fact-free universe, he's not listening to anybody, even the people around him who are supposed to advise him. >> these aren't his advisers. >> these are people who work for him. they work for him. it's the cia. it's 13 agencies. >> we have created a climate
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change industrial complex with billions and billions of dollars at stake. people are getting really, really, really rich off the climate change issue. i'm not saying there is climate change or not. by the way, when you say stuff like forest fires in california were caused by climate change, that's why there's so much skepticism. >> there's not so much skepticism. >> can i get in here. what you are debating is sort of flat world versus -- >> you're the flat earther. >> heart in world versus round world. there is no doubt about this. nobody -- i haven't been able to find a legitimate scientist who says that climate change is not going -- >> i'll give you hundreds of them. >> steve, playing back tape is not going to be good in this case. >> 13 agencies, this is a house people working for donald trump, this is 300 scientists who are
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how does he fit in with mississippi? i could go over this but how does he fit in? >> jessica dean is out front. >> reporter: a high-stakes senate race mired in racial tension got even more charged with the discovery of nooses on the state capitol grounds. an apparent protest against racist overtones in the election with signs reading "we are hanging nooses to remind people that times haven't changed." >> we are prepared for it. >> reporter: the race took a turn earlier this month with a video in which republican incumbent senator cindy hyde smith appeared with a reporter and used this phrase to describe her devotion to him. >> i would be on the front row if he invited me to a public hanging. >> reporter: the fallout happened quickly with mike espy, who's african-american, seizing on the comment, calling it reprehensib reprehensible. >> i don't know what's in your heart but we know what came out
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of your mouth and it went viral within the first three minutes around the world. and so it's caused our state harm. it's given our state another black eye. >> reporter: during their lone debate, hyde-smith offered this apology. >> you know, for anyone that was offended by my comments, i certainly apologize. there was no ill will, no intent whatsoever in my statement. i also recognize that this comment was twisted and turned into a weapon to be used against me. a political weapon. >> reporter: on his way to a rally to support her today, president trump maintained steadfast support for hyde-smith. >> she certainly didn't mean that and, you know, it was taken a certain way but she certainly didn't mean it. >> reporter: another video released on twitter showed hyde-smith appearing to smoke about suppressing the vote of students.
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>> maybe we could make it harder for them to vote. >> reporter: hyde-smith's campaign said she was joking but controversy has continued to follow the senator. during a review of hyde-smith's legislative history, cnn's k-file found then state senator hyde-smith supported a measure promoting a confederate soldier's right to defend his homeland. a 2014 facebook post surfaced showing hyde-smith touring a museum of confederate artifacts and calling it, quote, mississippi history at its best. the "washington post" reported that in 2001 -- again as a state senator -- hyde-smith introduced a bill to rename a stretch of state highway to its name from the 1930s. the jefferson davis memorial highway honoring the president of the confederacy. and the jackson free press reported last week hyde-smith attended a private school founded in 1970 so white parents could avoid sending their children to integrated schools
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and sent her daughter to a similar school. while hyde-smith remains the favorite to win on tuesday, republicans aren't taking any chances with president trump headlining two rallies for her on monday. >> send cindy hyde-smith back to the united states senate so we can make america great again. >> jessica, the president holding two rallies where you are tonight. obviously this is the crucial night. how confident are republicans about this race right now? >> erin, president trump won mississippi by 18 points back in 2016. they're not expecting hyde-smith to get that wide of a margin but they are expecting her to emerge victorious tomorrow but they're not taking chances. the president holding two rallies tonight and, get this, since election day for this runoff specifically $5.1 million have been poured into this state for ads, the bulk of that from
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republican groups, so they don't want to take any chances. >> jessica, thank you very much. we'll talk to you tomorrow night. thanks to you for joining us. see you then. anderson starts now. good evening. we begin with breaking news about the man who once ran donald trump's campaign who's now in jail awaiting sentencing and promised to tell robert mueller's investigators the truth in exchange for less prison time than he might otherwise deserve. that was the idea. paul manafort was already in a world of trouble. tonight he's in more. today was the deadline for the mueller team to tell the judge whether manafort is telling them the whole truth and they say no, not even close. evan perez joins with us the latest. what sells in this court filing? what does it mean for manafort's plea deal? >> it means the plea deal still stands but the cooperation agreement under which the government had promised to encourage the judge to show leniency, well, that part of the deal is off.

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