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you are live in the cnn newsroom. there is breaking news here on cnn. american troops are going to be leaving syria. that was just announced today by the secretary of defense. almost every single u.s. service member in syria right now will be pulled out. this on top of the troop withdrawal from northeastern syria that president trump announced last week which triggered widespread shock and outrage as well as accusations that the u.s. is abandoning a loyal and proven ally. the kurds.
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with quote, zero help in its fight against an advance by turkey's military. it's important to understand the lay of the land. so here's a map. this is the area where the u.s. troops will be leaving. northern syria shown here in dark red. the pentagon says that a small contingent of u.s. troops will stay behind but that's in the southern part of the country. far from that northern border where turkish forces are already pushing into syria and taking control of towns. defense secretary said today that the decision to pull troops out of the northern syria was president trump's. >> we have american forces. likely caught between two opposing armies and it's a very untenable situation so i spoke with the president last night after discussions with the rest of national security team. and he direct ed that we begin deliberate withdrawal of forces from northern syria. >> as the fighting heats up, nick peyton walsh is in northern
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syria. we'll get to him in a second, but first to the pentagon and barbara starr. barbara, this amount is new. it's a far bigger pullout than the president announced last weekend. that was just around 50 or so troops. but that did cause a lot of outrage. how barbara is the defense secretary explaining the rationale behybrid pull lg out almo hind pulling out almost every sung l one of the remaining u.s. troops? >> with the security situation really deteriorating by the hour in northern syria and nic has been more on this, there's really no choice for the pentagon. they can't leave u.s. troops there. they were there to fight isis and now they are in fact caught between the turkish army heading south and a syrian and russian army heading north. there are about 1,000 troops involved. how this pullout going to work? already, we know from our sources defense officials that there are armed aircraft, arms u.s. fighters in syria tonight at every position where u.s. forces are located for their
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protection as this situation develops. they are consolidating into fewer positions. to try to improve their security situation. the pentagon wants to do this and what they call an orderly manner. and it could take they say das s or weekses. but that's really a big if. the security situation deteriorating by the hour by the day. will these forces be able to hang on to depart in some orderly fashion. over the coming days or weeks. or are they really going to have to pack and go. and if they have to go in an extreme situation, will they be able to take all their classified equipment and weapons with them? will they have to destroy things in place before they either fly out or drive of northern syria. >> you did hit on a very important point there that the syrian army as well as the russians are moving north. we know the kurds are striking a
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deal with the regime of al assad. we know they have been speaking with the russians. is the u.s. administration, is p the pentagon, the white house admitting that america's rivals, even enemies, are filling the void that the u.s. is leaving? >> well publicly talking about it, not much this weekend i have to say. but look, the russians are the best hope that kurds feel this they have right now. they want the protection of russian aircraft overhead protecting them from turkey. the u.s. of course cannot attack any turkish assets, but will the russians really stick with the kurds and keep them protected. a lot of people who feel this could be a short-term deal, but the russian's goal is access to kurdish oil fields in eastern syria and of course the big question, isis. thousands of isis fighters
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potentially some already getting out of their detention facilities. being on the loose. being on the run. nic again can tell wrou more, but there's a good dell oof evidence that there are ice is and al-qaeda adherents on the roads in northern syria already conducting attacks. alex. >> all right, barbara, thank you so much. and i want to head over to north syria. where we find nic. we just heard barbara talking about the russians and syrian forces moving in. what can we expect in terms of the fighting if that does happen? >> well what's key is what we saw today was the main highway being seized. by syrian rebels backed by kurdish military themselves, cutting the west of syrian kurdish held territory from the east. now that leaves key towns like manbridge and -- that the kurds held at the mercy of advances
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push i turkish forces. that's probably why they've struck a deal to invite them in to assist them. early days, it could change or lead to confrontation between turkey. the syrian aiwo jima aregime. but today, things have deteriorated so fast. the road to kabani tells you how savage the war is. here, kurdish activist was shot dead. allegedly by syrian rebels. a gruesome video of the killing, viral online. just outside, a a huge isis family camp, there's panic. gunfire up ahead. trucks turn around. families in disarray. what do you want from us? he says. they're coming. they'll take everything. may god end america.
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turkey and isis have been their enemies here. only america with them and they are leaving. just down the road, this patrol pulling out. clearly, americans still acted in areas around the syrian kurds. as they leave, turkey makes its bold ambition to go anywhere here felt. flying low. sending a message to us. the kurds and the americans, leave now. but the arrival of two u.s. apache helicopters to circle the area show the americans aren't ready to do that just yet despite president trump's instinlgts to end the endless wars. syria's war just keeps getting longer. one u.s. official told me the road towards kabani where they
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have some of their troops based is being cut off by turkish backeded syrian rebels. we had to leave. this was originally part of turkey's invasion. as we drive away, it seems clear turkey plans to seize the road. those are puturkish armored carriers and tanks bearing turkish flags. more arrive ng the dust. soon, syrian kurds won't be able to drive down here at all and the west of their area cut off from its east. the city of kabani again left to face a siege. >> now importantly, what we heard from one official is they describe d the syrian rebels doing the fighting on behalf of turkey, who cut off the road there tat the check point, firing and making civil vans so scared. they described them as mostly extremists. they're the people on the ground kicking this back far from the moderate forces that turkey have
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been saying would be assisting them from making a space here of the refugees could return back to. i can't stress how precarious the situation now is for the remaining u.s. troops. only 50 of them just withdrew slightly from the border have stayed roughly in the country, but they're moving to consolidate position and now they see the syrian regime move ing in with russia at their back. they have turkey whose ambitinss are so much larger and working causing horror and terror on the grounds here among sillville yans and the u.s. with a commander in chief who's made it clear hemts them out and behipd, they leave chaos and sadly as one person said to me, a second life for isis and possibility that 100,000 will join the movement. looking like it's slipping backwards, possibly in a week. back to you.
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>> the hugely complex and dangerous situation there in northern syria. thank you so much to you and your team. you're doing terrific work. imt to take you to altoona in iowa where joe biden has been speaking with reporters. he came out swinging against president trump's attacks on his son, hunter. >> have any consequence that anything was done wrong or illegally by me or my son. every major national, international and local news operation has looked into it has said it's a lie. this is a president flat lying, number one. number two, the statement my son put out today which i saw when he put it out, i was told there was one being put out. i did not consult with him about what was f being put out. in fact represents the kind of man of integrity he is and what in fact he has done and why he stepped down.
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and i can tell you now in if i am your president, next president, i'm going to build on the squeaky clean transparent environment we had in the obama bide white house and no one in my family or associated with me will be involved in any foreign operation whatsoever. period. end of story. now let's focus on the problem. the problem is we have a president who violated his oath. he's invited not just relating to me, on three occasions. foreign governments and asked for their input in a domestic election. the russians, the chinese and ukrainians. and there's not a single shred of evidence to suggest anything i did was wrong. i enforced the policy of the united states government backed up by the imf. backed up by the eu u and backed up by all our allies. to clean up the corruption and fire a prosecutor who was corrupt. period. i never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever had a conversation my
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son about anything that i was doing. everybody knows that. >>. >> to be clear -- have any conversation -- >> any reference to that statement -- >> all right. want to bring in john gary mindy and just returned from a trip to ukraine. we'll be talking about ukraine and syria in a second, but imt to get your reaction to what you heard the former. >> he's correct. there's nothing on to that work. let's look at the other side of this debate. the president, the kind of conflicts he has himself. it is absolutely clear that the president has violated the constitution immollment clause.
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both article two in which the president can receive no money from any government in the united states and article one, the foreign clause, the president is clear violation and what about his kids? gal vanting around the world cutting deals, getting special deals from the chinese government? goes on and on and on. the pot is black. he shouldn't be calling the kettle so. >> you did just get back from ukraine. i want to ask you about your trip there. one of the people you met on that trip was bill taylor. he's the -- affair which right now is the top u.s. diplomat in the country. he's also a former ambassador ukraine. now for those who don't know his name, he is absolutely pivotal in this impeachment inquiry. in that he was speaking with the president's point man ukraine include iing the eu ambassador, goren sondland and in a text
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message, he wrote are we now saying that security assistance and white house meeting are conditioned on investigations? now those investigations would be those conspiracy theory investigations that the president wanted ukraine to launch into the 2016 election and joe biden. now congressman as you know, ambassador sondland is expected to testify this week and responded back call me. so my question to you is did you speak with bill taylor about his thoughts because in this exchange and in another, he makes it quite clear he felt a quid pro quo is going on. military aid. h 40 $0 million worth in change for investigations. >> first, we didn't go there to do investigations. we went to see if the ukrainian government had the support they needed to conduct a vicious war against russia that's invaded their country. the morning we visited with the minister of defense, we met
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ambassador sond -- taylor, right outside the ministry and at that moment, our cell phones went off about this text that he had sent out. and so as we got out of the bus, greeted him, one of my colleagues wrapped his arm around him and said your text was right on and he acknowledged that yes, he did send text and that that was an issue. we didn't go any further because at that moment, a memorial had begun for the soldiers killed on that day over the previous five years. so but it was very, very clear that this is a man that was standing up for what was right. pushing back against what is obviously a deal that the president was trying to cut. the money was absolutely wi withheld from $400 million withheld was not rereeced until
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all this thing broke open following the whistleblower's whistle count. in addition to that, the, there was five hours between that text message from ambassador taylor and the response from sondland and it is now clear from the information that sondland has made available about his testimony on thursday that he had talked to the president in that five hours and they apparently developed the response, which is what i would call the ultimate cya response. >> congressman, let's show the audience what you're talk iing about. this was an exchange between bill taylor and the eu ambassador. taylor writes as set on the phone, i think it's crazy to withhold security assistance with help for a political political campaign. five hours later, sondland responded saying bill, that's taylor, i believe you're incorrect about president trump's intentions. the president has been critical clear. no quid pro quos of any kind. now as you mentioned, we know
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sondland spoke with the president in those five hours and now according to the "washington post," he is going to say tomorrow in his testimony that this was the message from president trump, so congressman, do you believe now that sondland is going to be testifying that he is going to turn against the president? >> well, he's going to tell the truth. he's going to be under oath. he'll know if he lies there are people privy to much of what will be said. much of what those text messages and e-mails as well as the call itself between the president of the united states and the president of ukraine, all of that information is available so yes, i believe sondland is going to make sure that he is accurate and it's very increasingly clear that accuracy is yes, there clearly was an extorres underway between the, that the president was attempting to extort the
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ukrainian government to develop information on the 2016 election as well as the bidens. the result of that extortion is the president will be impeached. >> and there's another witness who may be causing raising the nerves for the white house tomorrow. that's fiona hill, the fomer adviser in russia. she's expected to testify as well and she is no longer a part of the government so i imagine we'll be watching that closely. thank you so much for joining me. >> thank you. despite the blockbuster week of congressional hearings and deadlines looming over the white house, president trump has instead chosen to send a message standing by his personal lawyer, rudy giuliani, who is is reportedly under federal ve investigation. hear what the president is now suggesting that he'll do. that's coming up. if your dishwasher doesn't get dishes completely dry... try finish jet-dry's new stronger formula. it dries 100% better than detergent alone - even plastics.
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>> that was president trump call in to fox news night. his full endorsement follows reports that rudy giuliani is under federal investigation for his involvement in ukraine. that involvement which some could argue landed giuliani's most high profile client in the center of the impeachment inquiry that's ongoing. jeremy diamond is at the white house for us. the president standing by, they had lunch together at the golf course this weekend, but there's a big week coming up in this impeachment inquiry, which could be troublesome for both men. >> that's right and while the president spent much of his weekend defending his personal attorney rudy giuliani attacking democrats in their house impeachment inquiry as uninstitutional, house democrats have spent the weekend preparing for what could be a week of testimony from trump administration officials. it begins tomorrow where we have the president's former top adviser on russia and european affairs at the national security
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counsel. she'll be testifying tomorrow then on thursday, this could be perhaps the biggest testimony of all. and this is from gordon sondland, the president's am bass r dorr to the european union. now sondland previously was supposed to testify last week. the state department and white house blocked his testimony but now under subpoena, he says he will testify and he was the one of those ambassadors who was wrapped up in those text messages that show there was some concern, particularly from the united states top diplomat in ukraine who was a career diplomat that there was some kind of quid pro quo afoot and sondland, a political donor to the president and a business man who was apointed ambassador to the european union, dismissed those concerns. in one of these text messages, as i said on the phone, i think it's crazy to withhold security stance for help with a political campaign. that's bill taylor. sondland replies, bill, i believe you are incorrect about president trump's intentions.
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the president has been crystal clear. no quid quos of any kind. now according to the "washington post," sondland will testify it was the president who spoke with him on the phone and told him directly there was no quid pro quos, but get this, sondland will say if he doesn't know if the president uwas telling the n fact, sondland, according to a person familiar with his thinking, told "the washington post" it was a quid pro quo, but not a corrupt one, so that will certainly be interesting if that's the rationale that sondland gives to house democrats on thursday. >> yeah, potentially explosive testimony by sondland on thursday. we also know that there has been requests by house democrats made to ambassador bill taylor, who could also have a lot to say. that has not yet been scheduled. jeregjere diamond, thanks very . so if you're like any of us, it's understandable that you've got a lot of questions about the impeachment battle like what's next for the president and congressional democrats. cnn legal analyst ellie honing
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democrats in the house are getting ready to accelerate their impeachment inquiry against president trump as they return to capitol hill from recess this week. tomorrow is a big day. fiona hill, who served as the president's top russia adviser, she's expected to be interviewed by the three house panels who have been carrying out these interviews and all eyes then are going to be on gordon sondland. the president's ambassador to the european ewan yoond he's going to be deposed under subpoena after refusing to testify last week. now u this brings us to our weekly segment cross examine legal analyst and former federal and state prosecutor. he is here to answer your questions about all of this complicated legal news. now first of all, thanks so much for joining me. the white house has been arguing that they don't need to confide as much because the house has not yet held a formal vote on the impeachment inquiry so we have one viewer who's asking is
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that legally correct? >> no, it's not. there's no requirement. the constitution does not require it. there's no statute that requires it and just friday, two days ago, a federal appeals court in washington, d.c. ruled there is no such requirement. now that said, historical precedent tells us there were full house votes before the nixon and clinton impeachment inquiries. i think the white house is making a political play and a legal play. politically, they're trying to force a tough vote on democrats from swing districts and i think he legally, they're trying to extract sessions. don't count on nancy pelosi to give them that. here's thing to keep in mind. nancy pelosi has an interesting decision to make. if she holds the vote, she'll be calling out this objection from the white house. on the other happennd even if t hold a vote and it passes, that will not end o white house objecti objection. it's not like they're going to
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say here's all the witnesses you want. this is round one. there are many more to come. >> indeed. when it comes to ukraine, the president has said that he has not done anything wrong. that he was not trying to dig up dirt on joe biden and his son. that he was supply trying to root out corruption in a country that frankly gets a lot of taxpayer money from the united states so the question to you from this viewer, isn't the president entitled to root out corruption in foreign countries especially if we send them millions in foreign aid? >> in theory, yes. a president is entitled to root out corruption in foreign countries. the problem is it an absolute fiction to subject that's what donald trump was trying to do in respect to ukraine. if you look at phone call between president trump and zelensky, the texts between the state department advisers, it is clear the only case donald trump cares about is the investigations that he wants lawn u ched of joe biden, hunt
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rer biden and hillary clinton. when trump was asked well what other cases have you been interested in, he said we would have to look. i guess they're still looking. there are no other cases. the thing is is, there are proper channels if the united states wants to coordinate with the foreign government on a criminal investigation. called a mutual legal assistance treaty. i've done them as a federal prosecutor. to me, the fact the president went outside those legal channels says a lot about his state of mind. >> one of the bigger twists in all of this was in the past week. two associates working with rudy giuliani were arrested and indicted by the southern district of new york. for allegedly funneling foreign money into u.s. elections. so one viewer wants to know could giuliani, by association himself, face these same criminal charges? >> rudy giuliani is in
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legitimate trouble here. we know he's under investigation by the southern district of new york. the office that rudy giuliani hichls used to lead in the '80s. i worked at a couple decades later. as an alum of that office, it is jarring to think the former u.s. attorney is under investigation. the indictment last week is a serious case. they're charged with funneling hundreds of thousands of dollars of foreign money into the election system through a shell company. rudy giuliani has close keks to these two guys. they were his point people in ukraine. they paid him. the best detail is the company they used is called fraud guarantee. they need a new marketing company or something. but look, rudy is in legitimate trouble here. we got to watch the southern district here closely. >> the president sticking close to him this weekend. those are the viewer questions. what are you looking at this week? >> first of all, are any of those guys going to cooperate with the southern district? if they do, that's going to be potentially very big trouble for rudy giuliani. and for others.
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second. will the u.s. supreme court take the trump tax returns case that friday decision went against trump so now it's up to the supreme court. they may not take it and if not, it's over and those tax returns go to congress then finally, will we see more federal employees testifying despite white house efforts to block them. we saw the ambassador last week. she testified and we have a whole lineup of important witnesses coming in this week. i think the white house's stone wall is starting to crumble and i think we're going to learn more and more every day. >> how often have we said big week ahead. this week does feel like a monumental one. >> it's going to be big. >> thanks so much. appreciate it. as president trump threatens to sue top democrats leading the impeachment inquiry, we'll be taking a look at what voters think of the probe and how that compares with past impeachment inquiries. that's next.
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inquiry heats up on capitol hill. last night at the values voters summit, the president threatened to sue nancy pelosi and intelligence committee chairman adam schiff. this comes as new polls show there's more support for the impeachment inquiry, but is it enough movement to get republican lawmakers on board? so far, we haven't see any calling for trump's impeachment and even if the house does vote to impeach him, in the senate where democrats are in the minority, they would need at least 20 republicans to join them to remove trump from office. so what if anything do these polls tell us about what might come next? to absolutely that question antd others, i want to bring in harry enteren. harry, we have seen that the majority of republican voters still support president trump. his supportined co consistent, between 80 and 90%. when you look historically at
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nixon for example, what similarlies are quou finding? >> take a look at this. trump right now, impeached, remove him from the presidency. i took an average. about 11% of americans of republic americans say they want to remove him from office. go back to the december '73. that 12% looks a lot like the 11% but we saw nixon's numbers move up. i think the question is for donald trump, will those numbers move up. because if it's only 11% of republicans supporting, he's not going anywhere, right? >> are you seeing any movement in that spoupport among republicans for impeaching him? >> yeah, so i think this is a rather interesting thing. so if we switch the slide, we see that in fact there has been some movement. on the inquiry, before the impeachment inquiry started, only 8% of republicans thought it was a good idea to start.
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now that number is up to 16% so we have seen some movement there. 7%, now 11% do. so we have seen some movement on that. but not that much. but key among this, correct me if i'm wrong, are going to be the independents, the moderates, so those voters, what are you seeing in terms of the movement in their views on this? >> right so take a look at this. so among republican leaning independents, i think this is rather key. where has that movement been come coming from. 12 point jump. 16% in may to 20% now support removing him from office. versus among that very conservative wing of the republican party. that has dropped a point from 2% in may to 1% now. so what we really see is is this break within the republican
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party where those moderates to liberal republicans are much more in favor of impeach iing trump from office than the conservative wing while the somewhat conservatives are in the middle. >> why don't we talk it back to the historical example of the nixon years. how does this compare? >> if we look back to 1974, what you saw then, part of the reason why you saw it become much more popular was because those moderate to liberals who were the most likely to want to impeach trump made up the vast majority. take a look now at 2019. that portion of the party has dropped down to 32%. while the very conservative part of the republican party back in '74, they only made up 9% of the republican party. now they make up 33%. so that part of the republican party that really is in favor of keeping trump in office, that makes up a much larger portion now than it did in '74, which might be a reason to be skeptical that republicans are going to move to impeachment of trump from office. >> major shifts in those numbers
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the house intelligence committee is discussing extraordinary measures to protect the identity of the whistleblower who first raised concerns about president trump pressuring ukraine to investigate joe biden and his son. among these possible measures are a possible off site location for any congressional testimony, limits on the number of staffers and possibly disguising his or her voice.
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one thing remains clear. an overwhelming majority of the allegations have been corroborated by official government documents. trump's statements as well as news s reporting. here's tom foreman. >> even as democrats talk about impeachment and how this whistle bloer can want be trusted, many of the claims the whistleblower made are being fully supported by the facts. claim one. the president of the united states is using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 election. specifically asking ukraine to investigate joe biden and his son who did business with ukrainians. the facts, trump not only encourage d a probe during that now infamous phone call with ukrainian president, he has since said china should do the same. despite no evidence of wrong doing by the start an investigation into the
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bidens. >> claim two, the president pressured the ukrainian's to explore the possibility that any interference in the 2016 election was not launched by russians trying to help trump, but by ukrainians trying to help hillary clinton. the facts, trump told the ukrainian president, i would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation in ukraine. that may sound benign, but he also echoed themes from a popular conservative conspiracy theory that promotes this idea of ukrainian interference. >> could be other people also. there's a lot of people out there. >> claim three. senior white house officials decided to lock down all records of the phone call, especially the official word for word transcript by moving it to a computer system for classified documents. the facts, the white house admits doing just that.
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claim four, u.s. ambassadors kurt volker and gordon sondla sondland -- text messages show volker communicated with the ukrainians about how they should investigate the bidens, the very thing trump requested. and claim five, the order to suspend military aid to ukraine right around this crucial period had come directly from the president. trump has confirmed it, saying it was about making sure the ukrainians were dealing with corruption first, then saying he wanted europe to chip in more. >> we're putting up the bulk of the money and i'm asking why is that? >> while people can argue about the propriety or importance of the president's actions, the facts keep backing up the whistleblower's claims one after
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authorities in north texas are investigating yet another case of a white police officer shooting and killing a black person inside their own home. police in ft. worth say 28-year-old tatiana jefferson was shot and killed by police after a neighbor called to report that her front door was open in the middle of the night. police have released this heavily edited body camera footage. police are searching the outside of jefferson's home. according to a police statement, the officer saw someone in the window, perceived a threat and fired one shot. this comes days after former dallas police officer amber guyger was sentenced to ten years in prison for killing a man in his own apartment. simone biles has solidified her place as the greatest
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