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>> i'm very flattered that you would even bring it up. nevertheless, there are plenty of candidates who will be able. >> erin burnett "out front" starts right now. trump's bail out blitz. tonight he is pardoning a number of white collar criminals and shortening the sentence of a man who tried to sell obama sentence. bernie sanders is pulling ahead after two strong finishes in iowa and new hampshire. congressman clyburn, is he ready to crown someone in that state. he's my guest. let's go out frochblt. good evening. i'm erin burnett. welcome to a special edition of out frochblt we are live in las vegas tonight. in less than an hour, cnn
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presidential democratic town halls will begin and we'll have more on that nay moment. i'll speak with mayor pete buttigieg later. tried to sell barack obama's senate seat and also the former nypd officer bernie. tax fraud, corruption, the very thing that trump claims he cares so much about. some of the men who are getting bailed out of course have ties to trump. and in two days another person close to the president will be sentenced, and i'm talking about roger stone. so, is his pardon coming next? kaitlan collins is live outside the white house. kaitlan, what are you learning? >> reporter: the president didn't indicate he went through the typical doj channels where there are vetting procedures before they make a decision like
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this. instead he seems to have relied on the advice of friends, business allies, and even political allies as well. >> yes, we have commuted the sentence. >> reporter: the former governor of illinois was serving 14 years after being convicted of trying to sell barack obama's seat. he appeared on "the apprentice" but was fired by trump on the show. >> rob, you're fired. >> reporter: though lately trump has paid attention to efforts by his family to get him on his hands. >> i watched his wife on television. i don't know him very well. >> reporter: trump came well to commuted the sentence last summer before being talked about it who warned him about the blow back he faced for intervening in what many saw as the pay to play scheme he campaigned against.
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>> it was the same people. >> reporter: today the president also pardoned police commissioner bernie carric who was found guilty of eight felonies including tax fraud and lying to white house officials. >> yes, i just pardoned bernie carrick, a man who had good recommendations from a lot of people. >> reporter: carric appeared on fox news last night. he involved in the case of eddie gallagher, the navy seal accused of war crimes. >> this was a retaliatory mission by the admiral, an admiral who has overseen the criminal investigation and should be booted from the navy seals. >> reporter: trump didn't stop there. he also pardoned the former owner of the san francisco 49ers who was found guilty of attempting to conceal an extortion attempt and michael mill kin, the 1980s investment banker known as the junk bonds
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king. >> he paid a big price, a very tough price but done an incredible job. >> reporter: the president wouldn't say if he's considering leniency for roger stone who is said to be sentenced in just two days. >> i haven't given it any thought. >> reporter: sources say that's not true and trump has weighed pardoning stone. >> i'm the chief law enforcement officer of the country. >> reporter: now, erin, the president pardoned or commuted the sentence of 11 people in total today. most of them are white collar criminals. only two were related to drug offenses. we should note when it comes to michael milken, a lot of that had to do with steven mnuchin who favored the pardon. they believed in part this had to do with an eye toward
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fundraising for the president's campaign. >> all right. thank you very much kaitlan. and i want to go out front now to greg brower with me in las vegas, former u.s. attorney, former fbi assistant director and lawmaker. gloria bor gloria borger also here. so, patrick, what do you make of these pardons? >> i think they're an obscenity. i think there's 171,000 people in custody in the federal system. and the notion that somehow mr. trump and this committee he claims he has looked around and these people, all of whom have personal connections to him or people around him, friends and family, these are the people they came up with that were deserving of clemency. it's a lie. and it's disgusting. and it's another assault on the rule of law and equal treatment
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before the law. and this president seems held bent on doing everything he can to destroy the rule of law. >> i mean, greg, when it comes to the blah goi vich pardon specifically which patrick is talking about, the white house put out in a statement that democrats, dick durbin, jesse jackson, erick holder also looked at it. but when the president himself talked about it, he made it about his enemies and himself. he said it was a prosecution by the same people, comey, fitzpatrick, the same group, being patrick fitzgerald. for him, it's personal. >> really the fact there may be bipartisan support for one of these commutations doesn't take away from the fact it looks political. it looks like granting political favors more than serving justice. >> he's saying that's what it's
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about. >> every case is different. the jack johnson pardon a few months ago was legitimate. i supported a resolution to -- we adopted a resolution urging president obama to pardon jack johnson. that didn't happen. there are among these pardons some that might makes sense, but the problem is that overwhelmingly look political. and i should remind you all of these people were convicted and charged by ordinary citizens. they were convicted by juries of ordinary citizens. judges approved those convictions. and judges imposed those sentences based upon the federal sentencing guidelines that congress adopts. so, it really in a way undermooi undermoounde undermines the whole system of justice by shortcutting and bypassing the system of pardons that the president doesn't have to follow but should. >> given the situation we're in, when he says it's because of
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personal reasons. look at michael milken, sources say it's clearly aimed at fundraising for the campaign. that's what they're saying. this is all personal. >> well, it sure seems to be that way. i like to know what the process was. i would like to know if the official process was even considered, much less used. and when you look at all these names, it may be about campaign contributors, but it's also about people who know how to flatter the president. his wife was out there talking about the president and what a difficult job he has, how much they like the president. and so it's a combination of they really like me and i can really use them and the people who want me to pardon them are people who can be useful to me. so, all of this in the end is about donald trump. it's also about the president being unbound. what are the democrats going to
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be able to do about this other than complain? not much. and what are the republicans going to be able to do, or will they want to do anything because they're all in with donald trump? so, he feels completely liberated after impeachment. and this is what we're getting. >> i mean, patrick, i want to give people a chance to understand why this is different. so, obviously controversial pardons go with the presidency. we hear about them all the time, right? when president clinton pardoned mark rich, he fled to england. he would have had 300 years in jail. his wife was a donor. clinton pardoned rich on the last day of his presidency. "the new york times" called it indefensible. what makes this situation with the trump administration and the justice department overall different? what makes it worse? >> it's worse because it's bigger. the rich pardon was ridiculous and wrong. but what trump's doing is multiplying that. and he's doing it so crudely, so
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lofbly. of all the prisoners, he happens to pick the guy who was on "the apprentice." it's insane. it's taking a bad precedent which is the rich pardon and multiplying it. and he's doing it, as i say, for people that know people in the cabinet, for people that are helpful to him on television, who flatter him, who tell him lies like the james comey had anything to do with the prosecution. james comey was not in the government during the years that the prosecution was put together. so, they tell these convenient lies to the president and then he crudely in front of everybody misuses his pardon power. >> but he is friends -- he is friends -- >> yes. >> comey is friends with patrick fitzgerald and that may be enough for donald trump, don't you think? >> well, that's insane.
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just because you know somebody -- >> but look, yeah, jim comey has a lot of friends. i served as u.s. attorneys. a lot of us served as u.s. attorneys over the years. is he really going to look for every connection jim comey may have and look at pardoning those defendants? it makes no sense. as i said at the outset, the president has the power to grant pardons for a good reason. i referenced jack johnson. that conviction was decades ago. it was clearly racially motivated. >> i think there were issues of domestic abuse may have been obama's issue with it. >> but it was clearly illegitimate. when we're talking about people who have not served their entire time, when we're not talking
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about decades-old convictions and we're talking about what appear to be political pay back sort of pardons, that undermines the integrity of the system. >> so, then gloria, what happens to roger stone? >> i think he probably feels a little more comfortable tonight. and if i were rudy giuliani, i would feel a little more comfortable about what the southern district of new york is looking into tonight because in the end, although the president says he hasn't considered a pardon for roger stone, i don't see how he can think that he hasn't. he has been complaining about his sentence. he's going to be sentenced on thursday. i don't think the timing of this is any kind of coincidence. now the president has everybody expecting a pardon eventually for roger stone. and if i were a betting person, you're there in vegas. if i were a betting person, i would bet on a pardon for roger stone. >> all right. thank you all three very much. next the start of democratic town halls just less than an hour away.
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bernie sanders will be up first. now, tonight a new poll shows him pulling away. is he the undeny able front uner in the race at this point. plus one of the powerful democrats in congress has still not endorsed the former vice president. why? congressman james clyburn will be out front. tonight the caucuses could be a repeat of the iowa mess. but great minds are driven to seek out the complex. they see what others don't, from an angle others won't take. they learn that embracing those challenges is what sets them apart. i am justin rose, and we are morgan stanley. ♪
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welcome back to a special edition of "out front." we are live in las vegas ahead of the cnn town halls. bernie sanders has been surging in the polls. we have two new national polls showing him with a 12 point lead over his democratic rivals in 2020. joe biden at 15%, michael bloomberg and elizabeth warren at 14%, pete buttigieg at 13. if those are your double brain injuries, the new npr poll has sanders at 31, boom berg in second there with 19 which qualifies him for his first debate here in las vegas
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tomorrow. the former new york city mayor is up 15 points since december. david, there's a lot of things in these polls that make you go wow, this is pretty incredible to see it all happening whether it be to see the surge of michael bloomberg in one but both. is it undenyable bernie sanders is the clear front runner? >> he is. he's in the driver's seat. it's about to experience a new element with michael bloomberg on the debate stage. michael bloomberg will be part of the conversation in the fray, not just on television ads. but there is no denying bernie sanders through the power of young voters, liberal voters, and a significant chunk of non-right voters has put anymore
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in the running. how do you grow beyond? he may not need to. he's doing it out in front with the double digit leads. his quest to get to milwaukee with a majority. >> it is stunning when you think about it. bernie sanders didn't expect to be in this position a couple months ago. he had had a heart attack. now here he is undeniably the front runner. it shows how little anybody knew or predicted. >> yeah, in that period it was unclear where the candidacy was doing. we have seen a steady rise as the front runner of the race. he has made it work in iowa and new hampshire and even as the electorate shift. he has enough non-white to give him a coalition to cross
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astates. we have seen buttigieg surge in early states but looks less like a front runner nevada and sk k is. we've seen klobuchar. elizabeth warren hasn't been able to make it work. bernie sanders has been able to make it happen in multiple states. >> and what's been amazing with different people having their moment has been all the daggers come out for that person. we remember the daggers without for elizabeth warren and everybody said the nomination is hers. now sanders in the front and here we go. this is a taste of what's happening. >> i think senator sanders should also be explaining how he's going to pay for medicare for all. >> my friend senator sanders doesn't seem to think it matters how much things cost, that there's a gap of $25 trillion in his plan which is bigger than the whole u.s. economy. >> bernie acknowledges he doesn't even know how much the program is going to cost. >> that was -- those were the daggers were elizabeth warren,
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now they're for bernie sanders. >> i would note joe biden has been making this argument against bernie sanders since last summer. >> excuse me. >> since last july. we made this argument on our debate stage last july in detroit. hillary clinton tried to use the arguments against price tags against bernie sanders but emerged with the nomination. this notion of how are you going to pay for the plan, it habit stuck to him. maybe we're in a different time. voters minds are trained now that we're in the elect tral contest it's not the year before. i would argue that we've heard this argument against bernie sanders. he's been answering that question whether satisfactorily or not for years. and i think that if they're really looking for daggers to start taking a piece of hide out of him, i don't know that that's going to be the final answer. >> now michael bloomberg is going to be on the debate stage, both debate stages. now we get to find all the
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things he said. now, he is trumpian in some ways, right? says what he thinks. now these clips start to surface. our file uncovered this clip of bloomberg talking about bernie sanders and his supporters just a few years ago. >> democratic socialism and the young people -- i don't mean to knock young people. i wish i was one again. but young people listen to donald trump -- to bernie sanders -- and they said, yeah, democratic. that's good. socialism. yeah, that's that social media stuff. >> and we're going to hear a lot more of this. >> yeah. >> i mean, we've seen this even in the last week, the redlining comments, the comments about transgender individuals. this will come on and on. >> trans gender, referring to them as it. >> exactly. and polls show him rising. it's going to be difficult however is his vast amount of
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resources allowing him to define himself uniquely in these super tuesday states. he's playing a game unto himself. he's told the voters as a thinker that can go up against trump and has been able to saturate that message. the candidates have to redefine him and make him someone voters are scared about. that's going to be a difficult task. for months now they've seen the bloomberg ads and created a story in their head. >> thank you both very much. don't miss our democratic presidential town halls tonight on cnn. anderson is going to kick it off at 8:00 with bernie sanders. i'll moderate with pete buttigieg at 9:00. then amy klobuchar at 10:00. >> pete buttigieg sounding the alarm when it comes to defeating trump. >> i think if the socialist bernie sanders was the nomination, trump will beat him. >> i share that concern.
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>> plus tom steyer admits the next two contests may be make or break for his campaign. so, how confident is he that he can make it here in nevada and south carolina? when you shop with wayfair, you spend less and get way more. so you can bring your vision to lif. for small prices, you can build big dreams. spend less. get way more. shop everything home at wayfair toda.
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welcome back to a special edition of "out front." we are live from las vegas tonight. tonight several of the 2020 candidates will appear on the stage in the room where i am, including my town hall with pete buttigieg who tonight is questioning whether bernie sanders can defeat president trump. >> i think if the socialist bernie sanders wins the nomination, trump will beat him. what do you think? >> i share that concern. >> well, buttigieg n saying that, is possibly previewing what he might be saying tomorrow night at the debate. there is a lot of pressure on these candidates like joe biden, like elizabeth warren to stand out after losses in iowa and new hampshire. jeff zeleny is out front, been with all of them every step of the way.
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this race is not what people expected it to be. for a long time, joe biden was the front runner. now he's not the front runner anymore in these polls and he's got a lot to prove. what -- who has the most to approve or lose tomorrow night? >> i think bloomberg has a lot to prove to show he is a front runner. let's go to joe biden because he is in an unusual place. i was with him in reno yesterday. he still acts like he's the front runner. he has the trappings of that. when you talk to the voters and see the confidence is gone a little bit. joe biden has to show he still is in this game, not just for nevada, for south carolina, for super tuesday. when voters see him in person, they still like him, think he can do it. so, i think the most is riding on his performance. also elizabeth warren, she has to get back in the game if she wants to stay in the game. she has a strong following here in terms of super tuesday.
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she has a lot riding on it. joe biden i think first and foremost, if he wants to revive himself in south carolina, he has to have a strong showing here. that's what they're counting on. >> because it's so close. it's not like you cannot do well here and hope for next week. thank you very much. i want to go out front now to jim clyburn of south carolina, the majority whip. i appreciate your time, sir. thank you very much for being with me tonight. i'm going to be blunt here. you're a key endorsement in this race. you're one of the people everyone looks to. who will you endorse. you said you're not going to announce who you are voting for until after the debate in charleston, south carolina next week. i know you've known joe biden for a long time. you spoke at one of his events about a month ago. what's been holding you back from endorsing him? >> well, because first of all, thank you for having me. but i made a promise to the
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network that is doing the debate that i would not get out in front of the debate. i said the same thing to the national democratic committee, that i would stay out of any kind of endorsing early in the game so that we could have a good, valuable debate and primary. so, i decided to keep my vote to myself until after the debate. >> have you decided or are you, yourself, still unsure? >> oh, no. i'm not unsure at all. i know exactly who i'm going to vote for. i've known that for some time now. >> all right. so, i'm not going to try to read between the lines. i respect what you've chosen to do. let me ask you about something "the wall street journal" quotes the chairman of south carolina chairman of the democratic party
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as saying. it says, quote, this race is wide open here, talking about south carolina. joe biden has work to do to close the deal and win south carolina. do you agree with that, congressman, that joe biden has work to do to win south carolina? >> yes, i do agree with that. i said several days ago that there's a contest in south carolina right now, so i do believe that all the candidates need to continue to work because south carolinians will be looking at nevada in order to make some determination as to whether or not they will -- their vote will be one in vein. i really believe they have to keep working. >> and congressman, i want you to know what you're hearing in the background is our washington bureau chief getting the crowd ready for the town halls tonight where we will hear from senator sanders, mayor pete buttigieg, and senator klobuchar.
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i know you have known him for a long time. you have said though that the stop and frisk policy bothers you. he's apologized for that on the campaign trail. i want to play what he's been saying again and again for you. here he is. >> i spent a long time speaking with black leaders and community members. i've listened to their stories. i've heard their pain, their confusion, their anger. andive other learned from them and i think i've grown from them. i know i can't change history, but what i can do is learn from my mistakes and use those lessons to do right by black and brown communities who have suffered. >> congressman clyburn, when you hear that, is that enough? does that go far enough for you? do you believe that he is being genuine? >> well, as you know, i was born and raised in a parsonage and i always apply some of those early
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learnings to whatever i hear in the political arena. so, i always say i can appreciate your words. it's your deeds that make it for me. and so what i will be doing is watching his proposals, seeing exactly what he says he's going to do to help us overcome what we know to be a big problem in this country, and that's trying to make the greatness of this country accessible and affordable for all of its citizens. we've got a great health care system in this country. it's just not accessible and affordable to everybody. same thing with education. we have got to have proposals laid out that will demonstrate exactly what you're going to do in order to overcome some of this. so, i'll be watching for the deeds irrespective of the words.
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>> your grandson, walter, works on pete buttigieg's campaign and he is featured in this ad which is airing in south carolina this month. he talks about you. here's a clip. >> my grandfather is my hero. my grandfather is my hero. community organizers, civil rights activists. >> one of the leading voices for the disenfranchised. >> i'm working for pete buttigieg because he's got a real plan to combat gun violence and get health care for everyone. >> i'm working for pete because he spelled out policies for lifting people out of poverty. >> tackling racism. >> investing in child care after school. >> he's a fresh start. >> he's the change we need. >> congressman, you recently told our dana bash that older african-american voters may have a hard time voting for buttigieg because he's gay and your comments got a lot of people talking. do you still believe that? >> you know, there's a big difference between what i
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personally feel. i've had conversations with my grandson. i know what some of the feedback is that he is getting. his fiance i spoke with yesterday, and she tells me the same thing. so, i'm with my grandson who i'm very proud of to know exactly what he is up against. i don't want him to go out there working not helping hem get prepared for what he might hear. so, all i did was express what i know my grandson is going to hear, what all of us have heard all of our lives, so he can be prepared to deal with that. i do not have a problem with it. but i know of a lot of people who's expressions are to the contrary and i think it's showing up in a lot of people you talk to. >> all right. i appreciate your time congressman clyburn. thanks very much again. >> thank you for having me. >> all right. great to see you, sir.
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and i will be monitoring the town hall with pete buttigieg coming up at 9:00 eastern. you can hear us getting ready for these now. you'll also here from bernie sanders and amy klobuchar. tom steyer says nevada and south carolina are do or die for his campaign. he's my guest. we are less than 30 minutes away from the democratic town halls as officials in nevada insist they are ready for the upcoming caucuses. there are some red flags. this blt is delicious! made it myself. i love this place!
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tonight do or die, that's what billionaire businessman tom steyer says the next two contests in nevada and south carolina means for his campaign. in south carolina, where he has more than 90 campaign aides on the ground, he pulled second place last month. he's out front now. okay. what does do or die mean for you in nevada? >> i think this. i have to be able to show to people that i can get people to vote for me and i can pull together a diverse coalition of
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democrats. nevada and south carolina, the first two diverse states. they more reflect the democratic electorate and the american people. and so i've spent a lot of time on the ground here. i think more than anybody else. i've spent a lot of time on the ground in south carolina more than anybody else really going out seeing people face to face, talking to them, holding town halls, really listening and understanding what's going on on the ground. >> you've enlisted in a lot of time and money in nevada. you're not going to be on the debate stage tomorrow night. mike bloomberg will be. do you respect those rules, the rules they have -- [ cheers and applause ] >> they loved your question, erin. i am in second or third place in nevada and i am in second or third place in south carolina. there have been no polls counted towards those states because it's supposed to be either national polls or state polls. so, the people in the debate can
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reflect. the democratic national committee basically disenfranchised the voters of nevada and k is south carolina o would be on the debate stage. i've been going to them all along. that's what i've been continuing doing. we're getting great response on the ground and we're going to continue with great response on the ground. and i'm going to show us pull together for the coalition and show that in fact what i'm talking about is really progressive main stream democratic stuff. >> so, bloomberg got in the race late, four months after you did. you waited a while to decide. he was really -- >> he was probably november. >> october/november. you're both wealthy businessmen. you're willing to spend whatever it takes. a new national polls shows him doing way -- he's second in some polls. >> what i've been doing is going
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to these states to do grass roots organizing. i built next jen america. i believe in seeing americans face to face not just in tv ads but going face to face and listening to people and understanding what's going on in nevada. going to south carolina and understanding what's going on in k is sk. i really think that that is -- if you can't do that, i don't understand how you can be president of the united states. >> you used the words progressive main stream and put those terms together. pete buttigieg was asked whether trump would beat the socialist bernie sanders in the general election. buttigieg said he shared that concern. do you share that concern? >> i am not in the anybody but bernie camp at all. what i'm saying is this. i believe what i stand for is progressive democratic values without being a socialist, and i believe that that is in fact something where i'm standing for
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a choice in terms of health care, a public option in the affordable care act. i'm talking about get 4.5 million union jobs to rebuild the country in a climate smart way. i'm talking about a tax cut to everybody who makes less than 250,000 bucks. i'm talking about the kind of progressive change that i think democrats need. and i'm somebody who will talk explicitly about race and ethnicity here. i'm for reparations. i'm for someone who wants to explicitly deal with our racial issues and talk directly to those -- >> i understand in some of those cases you're to the left of some i don't have your rivals. >> including bernie sanders. >> to an issue of a socialist defeating president trump, do you think that's doable? >> what i think is this, erin, whoever the democrat is, we're going to have to pull people
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together across racial lines. we're going to have to have black people and latinos and aapi and white people, have people across the country, and pull together the progressive and moderate wings, somebody who can really pull together the coalition. what we can't have is a candidate who can't do that. and i think the whole point about nevada, the whole point about south carolina is being able to prove that in fact i can do that, that i can beat trump on the economy, that i have a much more progressive approach to the economy than he does and that i know more than he does, that i can show he's a lawyer, that his economy only works for the people in the mar-a-lago, not the people of the country. we're in a different place and the people of america need somebody to fight for them again. and that would be me. >> i appreciate your time. next officials in nevada are scrambling to prepare for the
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welcome back to a special edition of "outfront." we are live in las vegas where the cnn presidential town halls are about to begin. and here in nevada, there are concerns that there could be a repeat of some of the chaos we saw in the iowa caucuses. diane gallagher is "outfront". >> it's not just the outcome of saturday's nevada caucus that's in doubt, but whether or not nevada democrats can pull it off. >> obviously, a little frustrating, waiting an hour on line. >> reporter: one volunteer who has been raising the red flag, seth morrison. he lets cnn sit in on a recent
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training webinar, where volunteers were shown the crucial caucus calculator they'll use to tabulate results. >> it will also be calculated for you on that caucus tab calculator. >> reporter: no hands-on experience. that's a concern for another volunteer, christopher erby, who will be working the caucus saturday. >> having it in your own hand and actually working through it and being able to ask questions about something in the ipad that maybe is bothering you. >> you have not physically touched an ipad? >> i have not physically touched their ipad yet, no. >> but morrison says he's seen enough to feel prepared. >> i am definitely satisfied with the training. >> we're doing trainings around the clock. that's going to happen every day up until caucus day. >> another concern, after many voters stood in long lines this weekend, they may not have their ballots counted, because they either didn't choose all three options or didn't sign their ballots as required. the nevada democratic party wouldn't give a specific number of invalid ballots.
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>> there was a small percentage of ballots that were missing a signature. >> dozens, hundreds, thousands, could you clarify that at all? >> it's a very small percentage. the number one goal is for us to make sure we preserve the integrity of our election. >> reporter: the democratic party says it will be up to the campaigns to tell voters with invalid ballots that they can still come back on saturday to have their vote counted. melding the information from the early vote with the people who show up for the caucuses saturday could be tricky. because of that, morrison, who will oversee multiple precincts, isn't sure saturday will be 100% problem free, although he says things are improving, somewhat. >> probably 60% chance that there will still be problems, but it was an 80% chance yesterday. >> you've got to love those odds right now here in vegas, right? look, erin, that volunteer, christopher erby, says he just wanted to get his hands on the ipad and play with that
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calculator tool. he's going to get that wish, erin, as of today. the nevada democrats are telling me that they're allowing these volunteers to come in, to use the ipads, become familiar with the calculator, so they are comfortable on saturday. the democrats also tell me that they've allowed the campaigns to see the calculator tool, as well, erin. >> all right. diane, thank you. and next, what to watch for at tonight's democratic presidential town halls, which begin in just moments. at bayer, we make aspirin to help save lives during a heart attack... so it never stops the heart of a family. at bayer, this is why we science.
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welcome back to a special edition of "outfront," live from las vegas. you are looking at the stage and, oh -- you see anderson behind me. bernie sanders is just moments away from kicking off our night of town halls with nevada voters. he'll be joining anderson in a few moments. and at 9:00, i'll be joined by the former south bend mayor, pete buttigieg. and at 10:00 p.m., we'll hear from senator amy klobuchar. david chalian is back with me. so these are three candidates with a lot at stake tonight. you've got now the front-runner in the polls, bernie sanders, pete buttigieg, who has had two extremely strong performances, and amy klobuchar, who has had al surge. >> yeah, what i am really eager to see, erin, is how does bernie
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sanders wear the mantle of front-runner tonight? that's not a position he's been in. so i'm wondering to see how he handles thoont stage tonight. you mentioned earlier, daggers coming his way from some of his opponents. does he sort of brush those off? and does he give us clues on how he plans to take on michael bloomberg on the debate stage tomorrow night, since he's brand-new to the fray. >> there's a lot at stake for mayor buttigieg as well, because he had two strong finishes, because his poll numbers don't look anything like that here in nevada or south carolina. >> we always knew this test was coming for pete buttigieg. he obviously overperformed. iowa and new hampshire, congrats to him, but he's always had struggles with non-white voters, and nevada followed by south carolina are the first two big tests. and by the way, amy klobuchar has a similar test. she also has struggled fwh ed w non-white voters. this is important to see if they can take their energy and convert it to the long haul. >> it is do or die for these
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nevada/south carolina races. >> they will re-shape the entire race, heading into that super tuesday contest, where 40% of the delegates are going to be awarded. >> all right. david chalian, thank you very much. and thanks very much to all of you for joining us. i think anderson is ready. and cnn's democratic presidential town hall with bernie sanders live from las vegas starts now. and welcome. this is a cnn town hall event live from the theater at sahara, las vegas. i'm anderson cooper. voters in iowa and new hampshire have already shaken up the race for the democratic nomination. here in nevada, democrats are getting ready to have their say in saturday's caucuses. our


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