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his patients like family. his daughter said he made everyone feel special and his colleagues say his strong devotion to patient care during this coronavirus crisis wound up costing him his life. may they rest in peace and may their memories are a blessing. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next breaking news. the president says the virus is receding and the u.s. is doing very well as dr. deborah birx warns it is widespread the president calling her pathetic. pathetic. plus a school superintendent already lost one teacher to coronavirus. he is supposed to open his school in two weeks. is ambition a dirty word when it comes to joe biden's vp pick? let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm erin burnett. the breaking news, president trump claiming the virus is
receding and that the country is doing very well. the numbers tell a very different story the u.s. reporting 47,000 new cases in just a day. the death toll in the united states over 155,000 and 30 states as of tonight seeing an incoo esin new deaths yet the president is turning his back on the truth today turning on dr. deborah birx of all people calling her pathetic. accusing her of taking nancy pelosi's bait. why pathetic? well, because of this >> i want to be very clear what we are seeing today is different from march and april. it is extraordinarily widespread. it is into the rural as equal urban areas. >> extraordinarily widespread. so that's pathetic to say? to speak the truth? apparently the president expected birx to continue being, quote, positive, toeing his line like when she sat silently when he told americans injecting themselves with disinfectant was
worth exploring as a cure. >> and then i see the disinfectant which knocks it out in one minute and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning. >> trump turns to birx. you can see her sitting there. look, she was disturbed. she was upset. she didn't push back in the way experts had hoped. she didn't say anything. in that she has been loyal to the president. but now she is speaking out. and as a matter of fact, dr. birx is correct. 32 states are now trending in the wrong direction when it comes to positivity rates. as i said, 30 states are seeing deaths rise tonight. experts are now warning that the virus may again start spreading in some of the nation's biggest cities -- baltimore, chicago, detroit, st. louis, washington, d.c., and now adding new york city and boston, second waves may not be far behind. experts also predicting big outbreaks in college towns. it was not just deborah birx
that trump attacked. he again also went after dr. anthony fauci. >> i don't agree. if you look countries all over the world are exploding right now. people you said were doing a wonderful job so wonderful but right now take a look at the countries exploding. you have italy back, spain back, you have france back, you have germany back. you have a lot of countries. that is not to knock them. the united states has done an amazing job, a great job. >> all right. coronavirus cases are on the rise in several countries around the world. many right? but nowhere near the cases and deaths of the united states. we have 4% of the world's population in this country and nearly 25% of the deaths. those numbers are painful. and true. and then here's this chart again. confirmed cases per 100,000 residents. the countries that trump listed off italy, spain, france, and germany have flattened their curve. the u.s. so far has not. there's never been a point at which our curve was flat. the graphic shows the united states has not done an amazing
and great job thus far and the word pathetic frankly is an ugly word, incredibly demeaning. i don't know why. if someone calls you it, it is demeaning. it does not apply to dr. deborah birx but it does apply to touting a cure that science shows doesn't exist and continuing to promote the unproven drug hydroxychloroquine. here is trump again today. >> hydroxychloroquine has tremendous support. many doctors have come out strongly in favor of it. they want it very badly. >> only trump's own doctors don't want americans taking it very badly. they want the president to move on. >> at this point in time we don't recommend that as a treatment. there is no evidence to show that it is. >> there is not evidence that it improves those patients' outcomes whether they have mild, moderate disease or whether they're seriously ill in the hospital. >> all of those trials show consistently that hydroxychloroquine is not effective in the treatment of
coronavirus disease or covid-19. >> that could not be more clear, could it? from person after person after person. and yet trump keeps saying, the opposite. when he could be using his bully pulpit to say something that his experts say would get rid of the virus, a mask mandate. after all trump has been very clear shutting down the country is not an answer he will consider. >> it's important for all americans to recognize that a permanent lockdown is not a viable path toward producing the result that you want or certainly not a viable path forward. >> all right. permanent lockdown is not viable. nobody wants that. but what is just as effective as a lockdown? what could stop us from having another one of those horrific things? here is trump's testing czar. >> wearing a mask is incredibly important but we have to have 85% to 90% of individuals wearing a mask and avoiding
crowds. that essentially gives you the same outcome as a complete shutdown. >> wow. so will trump finally go with the mask mandate? we'll go live outside the white house. the president tonight asked about his criticism of dr. birx calling her pathetic. what did he say? >> reporter: he said that he told her today he believes the u.s. is doing well and that was in response to a question about why he was criticizing her for accurately describing the outbreaks we are seeing here in the u.s. he said he respects dr. birx. he was talking about their interaction today. but he said he maintained he believed the u.s. was doing well and he did not answer a followup question when he was asked if he shares the same view that she does of where the current state of the pandemic is right now. and, erin, this is the first time we're seeing the president publicly break so much with dr. birx. the only reason it is different than what you saw with dr. fauci and the many times they publicly contradicted each other and disagreed with each other and as the president was attacking dr.
fauci is dr. fauci's office is not in the white house. he is out of the nih about a 30-minute drive to the white house. dr. birx' space is in the west wing. she is the person who actually meets with the president on a near daily basis a few times a week to talk out what is going on with covid-19. it makes it more awkward for the two of them and for the president to be calling her pathetic on twitter and the way that he was. so it really determined -- remains to be seen i guess you should say how this affects this going forward. as the president is downplaying the severity in the u.s. and as you saw him talking at the briefing they are ramping up testing in the west wing. it is no longer just the people who meet with the president. there is now mandatory, random testing for the staff in the west wing. >> all right. thank you very much. i am still shocked it has taken them this long. those people could come into contact with anybody who comes into contact with the president. thank you. i want to go to dr. sanjay gupta and dr. jonathan reiner cardiac katherine lab director
at gw and of course ad vietzd the white house team under president george w. bush. sanjay, the president says as he calls dr. birx pathetic that the virus is receding. he said he criticized her comments that it is entering a new phase and is ex-trord widespread. in his words the country is doing very well. these two things don't seem to be possibly true at the same time right? extraordinarily widespread or doing well? >> this isn't a matter of opinion. that is the thing about the story. there are numbers, real data. no one has to look and say well it could be one or the other. the numbers are terrible and we're probably wildly under counting the number of infections in this country because we are still not doing adequate testing. the numbers continue to go up and we're not doing anything to keep them from going down. we are doing some testing. it would kind of be like a lung cancer patient getting no treatment, an occasional chest
x-ray and saying i'm thinking he is doing better. you have to treat. you have to do something about this. we're still not at this point. it felt like we gave up the beginning of july and i'm not sure it feels any different right now. >> it doesn't. dr. reiner, dr. birx is finding herself in a tough spot president trump calling her pathetic because she caved to speaker pelosi's criticism. you heard her office is in the west wing. she is there. fauci is 30 minutes away at the nih. she has to be with the president on a near daily basis even as he called her pathetic. how hard is it going to be for her to do her job when this is what the president does when she speaks the truth? >> well, you could see over the last several months dr. birx trying to walk a very tight line between telling the truth and not offending the president when the truth offends the president and this week she ran afoul of
that. the president doesn't value expertise. he only values loyalty. not only that he doesn't believe his experts know more than he does. we've seen that when he deals with the cia. he knows more than the intelligence professionals. he knows more about the military than the generals. he apparently knows more about epidemics and pandemics than his scientific task force. she has a very difficult job. when he comes out and calls her pathetic he completely pulls the rug out from under her. he is an impossible boss to work for. >> this is just shocking. to come out and call one of your top public health people pathetic, just think about that for a second. sanjay, then he came out and pushed hydroxychloroquine. i just played his experts and we all know the studies prove that not to be the case. not for mild cases, not
presymptomatic cases, not severe cases. not at all. peter navarro the trade adviser comes on cnn today and says it may be better than remdesivir the only drug shown to have a benefit as treatment. there is not a single expert who says anything other than that is not true. what possibly could be going on here? >> i don't know what the motivation is for this. it's become wildly politicized obviously. the science is clear. it doesn't work. people keep saying it has been used for 70 years and no problem. but when you have bad coronavirus it changes your body. you wouldn't give aspirin to someone dying of a bleeding disorder either. it defies logic at this point and is very frustrating because we are in the worst public health disaster of our lifetime. we are still having these side debates which are inconsequential, wasting time, wasting money, wasting resources, wasting your valuable
air time. it is unbelievable. we could be on the other side of the curve without the therapeutic if we did the basic things right. how can we do the hard things if we can't get the basic things right. >> we are talking masks. speaking of basic things, dr. reiner, white house officials today saying they are doing randomized coronavirus testing, mandatory for any staff of the executive office of the president as of today. now, what i heard when i heard that was, wow. they weren't doing that? i thought everyone coming into the building was being tested because maybe you'd be around the president or someone who was. did that surprise you at all? >> they're worried. they've seen the virus inch closer and closer to the president. i applaud them for doing that. that is what public health experts want the public to get. they are acknowledging asymptomatic people can carry
the virus. most public health officials have come out begging for an increase in testing capacity so we can start testing asymptomatic people. gee, i would love to randomly test everyone in my hospital, on an ongoing basis. we should have been doing this a long time in nursing homes. it is ironic the president who feels testing is over rated, who wanted to slow testing down please, now they're going to ramp it up to protect him. good for them but they should be doing it for the country as a whole. >> he should be out there speaking highly of testing instead of benefiting. as he says it is not worth it for anyone else. thank you both so very much as always. next, breaking news dr. fauci's warning about the new phase of the coronavirus. what he says is driving the spread now making it much more difficult to stop. plus more than 250 employees of georgia's largest school system have tested positive for coronavirus. we'll come into contact with someone who has. is this the scene that is about
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breaking news dr. anthony fauci tonight saying the new phase of the virus is being driven by asymptomatic people not easy to identify. he says rising coronavirus infections throughout the united states represent community spread that is much harder to contain. athena jones is outfront. >> when you have community spread it is much more difficult to get your arms around that and contain it. >> reporter: in case you hadn't realized it yet coronavirus is everywhere. >> there are people who are spreading it who have no symptoms at all and we know that definitely occurs. it is difficult to identify it and it is difficult to do identification, isolation, and contact tracing. >> reporter: while new covid-19 cases nationwide may be leveling off, holding steady in hard hit texas, and falling in arizona and florida, mississippi has the highest percentage of positive covid cases in the country at
21.1%. california just became the first state to report half a million infections and daily death tolls there and across the country continue to climb. the cdc now projecting the death toll will pass 173,000 people in the next three weeks. >> we need to look ahead and decide where we want to be in one, two, four, six months and figure out what we need to put in place in order to get to that point. >> reporter: parties presenting another challenge. an indoor celebration at a bar to honor first responders causing alarm in los angeles and a intercepting a party boat off manhattan and making arrests. >> reckless, rude, irresponsible, and illegal. >> reporter: in new jersey where the infection rate while still low has ticked up in recent days governor murphy imposing new restrictions limiting most indoor gatherings to 25 people down from 100.
>> the actions of a few knuckleheads leave us no other course. >> reporter: community spread of the virus already causing problems in georgia's largest school system. some 260 employees have tested positive for the virus or come into contact with someone who has. but the county had been planning to open next week with online only classes. schools that just reopened for in-person learning reporting students or staff testing positive for covid-19. leaving officials scrambling to warn their contacts. >> it is not exactly the start we were looking for in that specific school. >> reporter: and there is more news on the treatment front. eli lilly and company announcing the beginning of phase 3 clinical trials of an antibody therapy to treat covid-19 with plans to recruit 2400 residents and staff of long term care facilities to take part. erin? >> thank you. i want to bring in our guest
epidemiologist and dean at the school of public health. obviously there has been a spike in cases in new jersey which had gone through the big crush in april and now spiking again. we have the chart, curve starting to go back up again, and the rate of transmission and perhaps this is most crucial in new jersey is as high as it has been since april when you had so many cases and so much death. what is behind this? >> well, i think what we're seeing throughout the country is that human behavior is undermining our efforts to curtail this epidemic. individuals are out. they're not taking responsibility for their fellow citizens. they are not wearing their mask is. they see the sun. they see the beach. as a result of that the virus is spreading wildly. >> so governor murphy in your state has announced further restrictions on indoor gatherings at least on some things, talking about the actions of some knuckleheads as he called it. but what happens next? is it not just a pause but a big
step back possibly? we've seen what happened to states to the south of new jersey, right? big increases. is a lockdown coming again? >> well, unless people change their behaviors a lockdown may happen again. i like the term that he used, knuckleheads. i call it irrational operators. we believe that human beings have choices based on wise decisions to take care of their health and the health of people around them but they don't. their emotions take over, their feelings take over, their desire to have a good time takes over. they are acting like knuckleheads. so unless human beings in my state and others throughout the country which i think have similar patterns begin to actually acknowledge that this virus exists, begin to continually engage in behaviors like wearing masks, washing haavoiding close contact with people, we're going to have to seek further restrictions in our society in order to be able to prevent the deaths that are inevitable otherwise. >> so when i spoke to governor
murphy in late june new jersey's curve had flattened significantly. here is how he described the situation on that day. >> we've beaten this virus down to a pulp in new jersey with an enormous loss of life. we've been through hell and we don't want to go through it again. >> do you think that may have been premature? >> i think that we lived through a very tragic moment in our history and with tragedy comes change in behavior. people have very bad memories. they forgot what was happening in april. they forgot what was happening in may. so i don't think it was premature on governor murphy's part. i just think people tend to forget the bad. when we think, coming back to the idea of human behavior, how many people are prescribed antibiotics and take them for seven instead of 10 as prescribed. here is the same thing. we need people to wear their masks all the time to distance and we need to remind them that
death is a reality. >> well, and the reality is that there is going to be death. >> correct. >> thank you very much. appreciate your time. >> thank you. next, an arizona school superintendent says there is no way it can be safe for kids to return. his district already lost one teacher to the virus. that superintendent is outfront. concerns tonight that trump's october surprise could come in the form of a vaccine but here is the thing. would it be safe? to severe psoriasis, little things can become your big moment. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop.
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breaking tonight dr. anthony fauci with some advice as schools begin reopening. >> children can get seriously ill. it is a rare event but it is not zero. the best thing to do is to try and avoid infection as opposed to wanting to get infection so that you can get herd immunity. >> this comes as the superintendent of one school district in rural arizona says he feels sick to his stomach when he thinks about reopening. arizona's governor has ordered schools to reopen two weeks from
today. outfront now, i appreciate your time, superintendent. you know, you've talked about feeling sick to your stomach. how worried are you? >> very worried especially in our area. we just have a lot of spread. and i believe strongly that if we brought the kids all in, it would endanger not only the teachers but also their family and of course the students, themselves, as dr. fauci just mentioned. >> so you have seen first hand what can happen here. you know, people may remember this story in your district, one of your teachers, kimberly burr. she died from the virus. she got it in june. two other teachers who shared a classroom with her were infected. right? they were -- we understand all social distancing. they were wearing masks. they were teaching online summer school. right? they weren't even -- didn't even
have kids in the classroom. arngs sti and, still, this tragedy. have you figured out yet how this happened? this is something that is tragic and it's scared many teachers around the country. >> well, it -- we've gone over this, over and over, and really, they have done everything right. you know, they use their own devices. i can't imagine putting kids into a classroom and expect them to be safer than our teachers were and that really worries me for not only our teachers but worries me for all teachers. you know, the millions that are going to be going back into the classroom real soon. so i am worried, yes. i am. >> in terms of what you've been trying to do, i know you've been at your schools every day trying to get ready, sanitizing rooms. you've had plastic barriers, used things like shower curtains
i understand because you don't have the plexiglas dividers right? all of these things that every school across this country now needs. so are you even able to do it, open with the restrictions in place for sanitizing and spacing and all of those things at this point? >> i mean, we could really have the space and having taught and been an administrator for 35 years, i don't believe that you're going to keep kids apart. i just don't see that. yes, we can spread them out and we are preparing to be ready on the 17th if we had to or are forced to but i don't believe i'm going to recommend that to my governing board. i don't see how we could social distance enough to keep kids
apart. if you have been in a classroom, young kids, you know, especially, are ones that need that, you know, our kids are -- have 90% with free and reduced lunch. where are the hugs going to be? i can't imane a teacher teaching in front of plexiglas and our students expected to stand, be 6 feet apart. i just don't see that. but i understand we need to try that. >> superintendent, i appreciate your time in laying some of this out. you know, i want to bring in now a pediatrician and assistant professor of pediatrics at columbia university irving medical center. i appreciate your time. you know, people have so many questions on this. as a parent i am surprised we don't have more answers on how kids can transmit this but we've
been told in one recent study kids 10 and older transmit exactly as adults do. that was a south korea study. then there was another study about much younger children finding kids under 5 have a hundred times more genetic material from the virus and their noses compared to older children and adults but we have no sense of whether that means they'll spread it more. we just don't know. so when you take all the literature out there, the studies, is the superintendent right to be as worried as he is? >> it's great to be with you. yes, we should be worried. and this frustration that we're feeling right now, the pieces of the puzzle coming together, is exactly how science works. you ask a question, define your population, study it, and answer that question to the best of your ability. the question in the study you just mentioned, how much virus are kids carrying in their noses? the answer is a lot. the question in the south korea study is how frequently are children actually passing on the virus they're carrying to their
household contacts? and the answer was, if they're older than 10 they are care tighe and passing it on to household contacts. so slowly we're learning the different pieces of this puzzle l but i think the bottom line is, kids can catch this. kids can transmit it. kids can become very sick from this virus. so i am worried that the virus continues to rage in this country out of control frankly. >> so in indiana we just heard a student tested positive. parents sent them to school. even though it seems they knew there was a possibility of exposure. that is an awful thing to hear but i wonder if it is something you think we may see across this country. >> there is no question in my mind that unless we actually bring down the levels of virus that is circulating in our communities we are going to see more and more of those stories. we have failed. when i see that story and i read the literature and look at the
predictions the only conclusion i can draw is we have failed the children of this country by failing to control this virus and, yes, we will see more of these cases. >> sobering. thank you. >> thank you. next, growing fears tonight that trump will rush a coronavirus vaccine for the reason of his presidency, saving his presidency. plus new police body cam video shows george floyd pleading with cops not to shoot him moments before he died. migraine medicine. it's called ubrelvy. the migraine medicine for anytime, anywhere migraine strikes without worrying if it's too late or where you happen to be. one dose of ubrelvy can quickly stop a migraine in its tracks within two hours. many had pain relief in one hour.
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frontline workers stretched too thin. our nurses and medical professionals in a battle to save lives. our schools, in a struggle to safely reopen, needing money for masks and ppe, and to ensure social distancing. and the costs to our economy, to our state budget? mounting every day. we need to provide revenues now, to solve the problems we know are coming. tonight growing concerns that trump is eying a vaccine as his october surprise prior to the election. the "new york times" reporting experts involved in the effort to find a vaccine here in the united states fear the white house will push the fda to rush a vaccine before the election. president trump asked about this tonight said this. >> can you assure the american people that politics and
considerations around the election will not interfere with the science? >> absolutely. absolutely. we want to make people better. we want to send them to the areas that most need it. and i think we'll have something very soon. it is going good. >> outfront now the former chief scientists at the fda, he worked under the clinton, bush, and obama administrations. i appreciate your time very much, dr. goodman. you know, look. the president has explicitly tied a vaccine to hi chances in the november election. i'll read the tweet. he said i look forward to having a big and very important second win together. this one should be a lot easier. vaccines and therapeutics will soon be on the way dr. goodman, do you have any concern that the president is pushing too much for a vaccine too early because he wants it before election day? >> well, i think it is great that we all are working hard to have vaccines and therapeutics but we can't cut corners and my
biggest concern is that there is a public sense that fda is under any pressure and its independence is not respected that the public won't trust the vaccine. we need a vaccine. it is the only alternative to ending this outbreak aside from the infection burning through our whole population. i am very concerned about any pressure on fda. >> they've already, they call it operation warp speed for a reason. the speed with which this vaccine research and trials is being done is unprecedented around the world and here. obviously you do phases to see whether a vaccine could work. but then there are also side effects or serious issues that could diminish public trust and impact efficacy. what could those be, the possibilities of side effects from the vaccine, bad vaccine, i'm sorry? >> well, you know, fortunately because we have a strong fda,
extreme side effects are uncommon. the clinical trials being done now the large phase three clinical trials for some of the vaccines are on tens of thousands of people so that should be closed -- most commonly what we see from vaccines is the immune system seeing this kind of protein or in the case of our newer vaccines rna and saying i want to fight this and that can be a sore arm, a fever, things like that. but much more rarely we see serious, adverse events, for example in the 1976 swine flu and influenza program. there was a neurologic disease which can be paralyzing that seemed to occur about 1 in 100,000 recipients. that is why we need the large
clinical trials. we can be assured when we have them something common isn't happening but we need very careful and robust safety monitoring systems in place before any vaccine is widely used to detect the more uncommon serious adverse events. >> so when you talk about one in 100,000 getting some severe paralyzing and neurological issue, it is not nothing. i think we all realize that. it really could affect people's willingness to get this. you talk about the fda. and the commissioner steven hahn obviously wants to get a vaccine out safely as quickly as possible. he has not ruled out an emergency approval of one. here is how he put it. >> we would consider using an emergency use authorization if we felt that the risks associated with the vaccine were much lower than the risks of not having a vaccine.
>> how confident do you feel right now, dr. goodman, about the whole process? when you see the president today, you know, calling dr. birx pathetic, saying he disagrees with fauci, the pressure that he as an individual puts on people to get what he wants is immense. it is personal, public, and can be very demeaning. do you have faith in the system that nothing could be rushed through because of him? >> i have tremendous faith in the scientists at fda. they are first rate and take the public's health and safety extremely seriously. i think dr. hahn's comment is reasonable in the emergency use. there should be very strong evidence of safety, good evidence for effectiveness, and a really positive, you know, benefit to risk ratio. but i am concerned about the kind of pressure that's been brought to bear. i'm concerned that it could pressure the fda. it could pressure the commissioner. and even more than that, even if they do their normal,
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now former vice president joe biden said he would choose his running mate by the end of the week. based on two dozen interviews there appear to be three women at the top of the list. kamala harris, karen bass and the former ambassador, susan rice. karen finney, former senior spokesman for hillary clinton's 2016 campaign. biden said four black women are among the candidates for vice president in addition to the three i mentioned, atlanta's mayor bottoms and vald demmings are expected to be candidates. he is looking at people, not just black women but you have five black women in the running for the second highest position in the united states. >> tells me it is about time, you know. black women have been sticking up to the democratic party for a long time. it is time for the democratic
party to stick up for black women. black lives matter itself was founded by three black women. a lot of people don't know that. the big fight now is about breonna taylor. african-american woman killed by police. a woman on the frontlines of the covid crisis and the fight for justice. black women have been saving america for a long time. i know three of the women that you just said. any of them would do an extraordinary job in bringing the country together and really getting problems solved. black women have been doing that for 40 years in this country. >> there has been a lot of focus in recent days, in particular on karen bass. in reference to those two people in particular, it bugs me people want to pit the two black women
against the other. nobody is pitting elizabeth warren against grecher whitmer and both of them are in the search. >> that is manage we see time and time again, you know, the desire to have a cat fight. the media falls into it. part of why we got to the point is because where it was with senator harris was certainly on the list among top consideration. we then saw a story that suggested karen bass was the anti-harris. you had people saying out one is unacceptable. the other is acceptable. the narrative took off. what you saw is women, black women in particular are refusing to be locked into that kind of a narrative because it is destructive and it hurts all women when we allow a conversation to diminish into a cat fight that frankly becomes
about personal traits rather than what does each woman bring to the table. >> kamala harris' name has been mentioned than any other. former senator chris dodd was stunned when she had no remorse for her now famous attack on biden in the first debate. said harris can "rub people the wrong way." harris seemed to address the comments and here is how she did it. >> there will be a resistance to your ambition. there will be people that say you are out of your lane because they are burdened by only having the capacity to see what has always been instead of what can be. >> i think that is part of what this is, van. there are people rubbed the
wrong way whether they know it consciously or subconsciously by the fact that she is ambitious and unafraid to show it. >> first of all, it is the weird oast thing in the world for that to be his criticism. rahm emanuel rubs people the wrong way. the criteria is are you tough, are you smart, kamala harris served in local, state, federal office and has been tested on the national stage. for people to say anything about her except for her record to me is a little bit odd. i want to point it out. karen bass, 100%, you don't have to pit the women against each other. karen bass is one of the most able legislatures that we have period. her ability to reach across lines and get stuff done. you want that in a vice president. you don't have to use the praise
of one to put down the other. the division that you complain about in the republican party shouldn't show up in this party. all of these women should be judged on their own. >> yeah. one of the things that we know, again, this is a common thing that a woman is too ambitious. again, it becomes personality based. did anyone say paul ryan was too ambitious. harriet tubman was ambitious. thank god. i think there are women around the country trying to come out and stop the nonsense. we can't continue to view women through these racist and sexist tropp that diminish our qualifications for the job. shame on him. and conversation should be
focused on the fact that the american people are ready for a black woman vice president. >> paul ryan, everybody liked him. the smart superstar. we talked about his workouts. i am thinking the personal thing. totally different. thank you both so very much. the federal judge whose son was killed and husband shot in their home speaks out. >> two weeks ago my life as i knew it changed in an instant and my family will never be the same. a madman who i believe was targeting me because of my position as a federal judge came to my house. >> her only child spent his last weekend with his family at home in new jersey celebrating his 20th birthday. >> the weekend was a glorious one. it was filled with love and laughter and smiles.
daniel and i went downstairs to the basement and we were chatting as we always do. and daniel said mom, let's keep talking. i love talking to you mom. it was that exact moment that the door bell rang and daniel looked at me and said who is that. and before i could say a word he sprinted upstairs. within seconds i heard the sound of bullets and someone screaming no. >> daniel was shot in the chest blocking his father mark who was shot three times and survived. >> we are living every parents worst nightmare. making preparations to bury our
only child, daniel. and i am here asking everyone to help me ensure that no one ever has to experience this kind of pain. we may not be able to stop something like this from happening again, but we can make it hard for those that target us to track us down. >> the suspected shooter died by suicide, an attorney and men's right activist who argued a case before the judge and in hate-filled writings on the internet attacked her in racist and sexist terms. >> as federal judges we understand that our decisions will be scrutinized and some may disagree strongly with our rulings. but what we cannot accept is when we are forced to live in fear for our lives because
personal information like our home addresses can easily be obtained by anyone seeking to do us or our families harm. unfortunately for my family the threat was real and the free flow of information from the internet allowed this sick and depraved human being to find all of our personal information and target us. at the moment there is nothing that we can do to stop it. and that is unacceptable. >> salas said the killer kept a dossier on her family and had a target list including the name of several other judges. after the new jersey shooting she was given state police protection. a mother now in the deepest kind of pain is now calling for more. >> my son's death cannot be in
vain, which is why i am begging those in power to do something to help my brothers and sisters on the bench. thank you for joining us. anderson starts now. good evening. the country may be in a new phase during the pandemic, president trump certainly is not. no new phase or tone. there are as there always has been serious medical experts offering the best information they know at the time they see it like dr. anthony fauci. today the new phase that dr. birx mentioned is about the community spread. it is bars, restaurants, people who are spreading it two have no symptoms at all. that dr. fauci said makes it more difficult and insidious to use his words. but not according to the