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look at it. joe biden selecting kamala harris as his running mate. we'll all be watching tomorrow as those two candidates are on the same stage. our breaking news continuing with "erin burnett outfront." with "erin burnett outfront." good night. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com "outfront" next. breaking news, joe biden making history, announcing senator kamala harris has his running mate. two people who know senator harris well are "outfront." president trump pushing for college football to be played this week. so it safe for the tens of thousands of players? let's go "outfront." and good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, breaking news, history. former vice president joe biden picki picki picking senator kamala harris as his running mate. harris is the first black woman on a major party ticket in the united states of america. biden is embracing a formal
rival and in a letter to supporters, biden writes i first met kamala through if i son beau. they were both attorneys general at the same time. he had a lot of respect for her and her work. i thought a lot about that as i made this decision. kamala harris tweeted joe biden can unite the american people because he spent his life fighting for us and he'll work up to our ideals. i'm honored to join him as his party's vice president. constant presence on the campaign trail with her in the primaries also tweeting, america, let's do this. joe biden tweeting douglas m. hoff, are you ready. as we have this history making ticket now, we are learning a lot of new details at this hour about the 2020 ticket. jessica dean is "outfront" live outfront senator harris' home. when do we expect to see biden
and harris together for the first time? >> erin, we're expecting to see joe biden and kamala harris together as the democratic ticket for the first time tomorrow. they're going to held an event together in person. and they're also going to do a grass roots fund-raiser together. because of covid they're not doing any major rallies like they normally would in this situation. instead, what the campaign is doing is encouraging everyone to take part in this grass roots fund-raiser where they can build a community online. that's where we're going to see them tomorrow at both of those events. the last time the two of them were together in public is when we saw them in detroit, michigan just before the primaries there. it was right before covid happened. they had just started giving out hand sanitizer. joe biden stood up there with kamala harris, corey booker, gretchen whitmer, and said he sees himself as the bridge to the next part of the democratic party and that's really how he views himself which was very interesting to hear him say that
for the first time. and now to be picking harris, he is making history by putting the first woman of color on the ticket as a vice presidential nominee. of course he was part of the historic administration serving under president barack obama. and it's interesting. i know you talked about beau biden and how joe biden talked about beau today and all of the releases that he put out, in all of the emails they put out announcing kamala harris as the nominee, as the vp pick. and harris and beau biden served as attorneys general together, and really we hear joe biden talk about beau all the time on the campaign trail. he says he wakes up every day and hopes that beau is proud of him. you have to think that beau biden was certainly in joe biden's head. resounding praise across the democratic party this evening with barack obama saying that
biden really nailed this decision. >> jessica, thank you very much. i want to go to ar let signs. you've covered joe biden from the beginning in this campaign. what else do you know about what went into this decision? >> reporter: well, erin, this was a months-long process as joe biden searched for his running mate. his search committee conducted extensive vetting of each of these candidates which involves turning over documents, also having interviews with that search committee. the search committee talking to allies, people who knew these contenders who were in the mix to try to get some input on how these women operate and the views that they could bring to this process. so, there were about 11 women who were considered overall. and in the end, kamala harris emerged as is the former vice president's choice to be his vice president should he be elected. so, biden, you know, spent the last weekend at his beach home in delaware after speaking and
meeting with some of these women as well in person. and ultimately it came down to making the decision to select kamala harris as his running mate. he saw her be tested on the campaign trails, as they both ran against each other during the democratic primary. they had that personal heated moment at a debate. but biden has long said that he doesn't hold grudges. he's a politician. he knows how this business works. but ultimately biden has decided to go with kamala harris. and it can't be understated how significant and historic selecting her is. she is an african-american woman, a woman of south asian descent. he's hoping to have a diverse woman serving with him as president. >> thank you very much. i want to go to john king, abby phillip, and david gregory. we're just finding out now that
joe biden called kamala harris 90 minutes before the formal announcement. so, it isn't as if she knew a day ago or even a few hours before. she knew 90 minutes before. they wanted to announce this the way they wanted to announce it. we know, a friend of his said look, they considered a dozen people for the slot. but he had sort of always felt that she was the one who made sense for the job. but what do you make of that? only 90 minutes before the announcement did she find out. >> you want to keep it tight because there's a lot of leaks in these things. that's part of the process. number one, you want to make sure you're comfortable yourself. there's a couple of big things at play here. this is a historic day for kamala harris and we should congratulator had. it's an important day for the democratic party to go forward in the campaign. issue number one, two, and three in the election is president trump, the incumbent president of the united states and his handling of the coronavirus. harris is important because joe biden wants to prosecute a case that he gave up, that when it
c got hard, he quit. he wants to prosecute a case that this president has quit when the country faces and the world faces a giant challenge. i think that's important. some of the big pictures here, survey research said the voters they care about most, the african-american base of the democratic party, independent voters and suburban women think kamala harris is ready to be president. they think that's a part of this here. another big thing is joe biden is impressed in the campaign. he was impressed with her energy and vigor. this may seem a small thing. this is a campaign like no other. the biden campaign thinks she's very good on zoom. candidates can't do rallies. they think she's a very good communicator in this new world. the big thing is prosecute the case the president gave up. >> prosecute what she can do. she would be the woman vice president. she would be the first black vice president. and she would be the first south asian-american vice president. people may not know her fascinating background.
she's a daughter of immigrants from jay mccay and india. she would bring that to the table if elected. breaking barrier after barrier. it is history making pick for joe biden and it's worth pausing to think about that. >> absolutely. it's history making on all of those fronts that you just mentioned. and i do think that it also says a lot about kamala harris as a person. all of those different identities really have determined what kind of person she ended up being. ats one of the things that she would say allows her to identify with so many different people on the campaign trail. and i think that for this moment, for so many different con tich wendesday sis of the democratic party but also citizens of this country seeing kamala harris in that position is critically important. it is a moment of just relief and an emotion for a lot of black americans. and i think for a lot of south asian-americans just based on what i've been hearing from
people who reached out to me so far. people want to be seen. they want to be recognized. and i think that they see that in kamala harris. but i do think that it is really just -- it's also about how can she use that -- these identities to build bridges between voters. one of the things that biden is going to have to do is bring as many people along with him as possible. every candidate in politics has to do that. and i do think that one of the pluses for kamala harris candidacy is her personal magnetism. it's what she brings on the campaign trail that draws people to her and that as john said, in the zoom era, that is so much more important than ever before because you don't have the ability to hold someone's hand. >> right. >> so, that magnetism really has to come through a camera, through a computer screen, through a tv screen. >> yeah, and she does have a charisma. i don't want to use the word celebrity. but in political terms she does, we've all seen covering her and
people's reaction to her in person. david, the thing is we are always told there's coverage about vp pick and whatever it brings to the table. and in this case all this history, these history making things. but it's the top of the ticket that always matters. ultimately studies show people may say they care but they care about the top. they don't care about the v, approximate. biden would be the oldest president ever elected if he wins. could this time, david, be different? will people be looking at her differently? >> i think so. and i think john made the point from her own surveys they had important voting blocs who wanted to know he was ready. we say in these moments this is a presidential decision. and the first presidential decision that a candidate who wants to be president makes. we learn something about how they reach the decision, what they prioritize. and in kamala harris, he has someone who's tough, who has run for president, and who is seen as being ready for the job. even though he wants to set the
strategic direction for what the administration will be and wants her loyalty and wants agreement from her, he wants to make sure he's projecting the idea she can do the job. if she becomes the vice president and he's the president, let's be clear, she is the future of the democratic party and perhaps the front runner to become his successor. so, it's a really important moment. i want to go back to something else that john said which is i think it was very important for joe biden to keep the focus on donald trump, on the president of the united states who's hurting in the polls, whose leadership is suffering by his own hand. in that way, i think he's met the moment. this is not a surprising pick. it's a historic pick. there's nothing conventional about a woman of color, a woman and an african-american woman being chosen to be a running mate. but i think she will be seen as not ideologically as extreme as other potential choices and i think is important for democrats right now. >> right. and you know, in that line he's
trying thread, you want to be progressive but you want to get the moderate suburban votes. she was trying to thread the needle on that. she does that. a source familiar with the search told obama wasn't a sound board. he was looking for someone that checked the boxes. is that how he goes about this, if she checks the boxes? >> it's smart that you would check in with the most democrat elected and the most democrat in the country with voters. it's very smart they did that and very smart word gets out about it. when was obama about? hope and change in 2008. a lot of people say that was just a cheesey slogan. branding matters. donald trump can throw a lot in
the air. what is biden-harris about? obama had hope and change. harris and biden have change and history. they need to focus on change, the country in the middle of the pandemic with the economy in the tank. suburban women don't like the character of the president. you want to change what you have, here's a great option for it. so, obama is big on the story art. his point is give people a north star because there's going to be a lot of clutter and a lot of things thrown at you. that was his advice to biden. find a narrative that gives you a north star to look at. they think this works. we're about to find out. >> thank you all very much. our breaking news coverage continues. senator kamala harris, the daughter of indian and jamaican immigrants. kamala harris has had a long career in law enforcement. this means a long record. trump's campaign already on the attack. is harris really ready to take on team trump?
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kyung lah is "outfront." i remember these pieces you did from people who knew her in college to her record to people who had very strong feelings about things she had done as attorney general. what do voters need to know about her record, because goodness knows it is all now going to come out? >> yeah, she has a very long record, especially in elected office when it came to law enforcement. she was a first. we've been talking about how kamala harris has been the first black womaned elected as california attorney general, the first black south asian to serve in the u.s. senate. being the first means you have to be tough, and this is something she is known for. she cut her teeth here in california. it has not been an easy ride for her. there was no playbook for a woman of color like kamala harris when she came up through the ranks. and she's had to learn some hard lessons on her own. in the first 100 days when she was san francisco district attorney, there was a police officer who was killed. and she did not press charges
when it came to the death penalty. she said she would not seek the death penalty, and she did not cave despite enormous political pressure that was publicly led by seinator dianne feinstein. so, that won her progressives over here in san francisco. but then when she was attorney general, she did not take a hardline stance. so, that made her lose some of that progressive sparkle. so, that's where you hear some of the criticism, erin, of some people saying she's not progressive enough. she is not bold enough. but then at the same you'll see women in pollitics here who say there was no guide for her and she was doing the best she could at the time. >> i'm going to "outfront" to two people who know kamala harris very well, jill lewis, former sorority city of kamala harris, they attended howard university, their sorority, aka, is the nation's oldest black sorry. also with me is ian sams,
spokesperson for kamala harris's presidential campaign. jill, first you. you have known her since college. both members of alpha kappa my . i can only think back to things people knew in college, right? you know her. how surreal is this moment for you? >> you know it's something that i feel like we've been building up to when she was running for president. that was the first surreal moment. when she became a senator, that too was a particular moment in time for us. and now i think more than anything, we're just overcome with this notion of duty. this is our opportunity to really do something important for our country. and so seeing her in this position, we're just here to support her. >> so, ian, you worked with her through her work for president. do you think that she had any
surprise? the kamala harris that ended her campaign late last year, do you think she expected this was possible? >> i don't know. i think she chose to run for president because she wanted to run for president, and it was as you know, a historically crowded primary. and joe biden ran away with the contest. i really think what it shows is something remarkable about joe biden, is his ability to sort of turn yesterday's rival into today's ally. it's a real character strength of his that kind of shows the way he's going to govern, kind of with a team of rivals, if you will. it's just such a stark contrast with president trump whose primary metric for anyone in his cabinet or his vice president is total fealty to whatever he says. and so i think that's a pretty remarkable thing that the vice president's done and he's picked an incredible person and candidate in kamala. >> jill, tell us something about her that we may not know that, voters -- you would want voters
to know about her as a person, as a long time friend. >> that she is a real person just like any of you may have gone to school with. i was talking with someone about that recently, and i said when you've seen someone who has, you know, done all the things you did when you were in school, the parties, pledging our sorority, protesting in marches, being a part of the fabric of the school, stepping on the yard, things that a real person does, and then to say this person has been called to serve in this moment. and i think that that is the kind of thing that people don't really think about, that these are real people and real people who have just been called to serve. >> so, ian, we all remember many moments in the campaign. obviously you referenced the one where she was talking about bussing and segregation, right, calling out joe biden and saying that little girl was me. it was an incredible moment.
a protester rushed the stage, grabbed harris' microphone, threatening her. her husband jumped up. you see him there with the yellow and orange t-shirt. jumped right in. what role do you think he'll play in this campaign? >> it's really historic, isn't it? it's almost bizarrely refreshing toub talking about a male spouse of a person on the national ticket. what a good problem to have in this country. doug is kamala's biggest supporter, her biggest fan, and i think he's going to be a tremendous advocate for her and for vice president biden over the next 90 days or so until the election. interestingly, karine jean-pierre, who was moderating that event is now her chief of staff on the biden campaign and is a wonderful advocate as well. she's got an amazing team around her and really an amazing team that's going to help the ticket
be successful in november. >> jill, she's about to face a lot of scrutiny, and obviously she has before. she ran for president. and she showed she knows how to deal it out, no question about that. but this is going to be nasty. it's going to be incredibly nasty. anything that the trump campaign can find, they will. and it's going to be ugly. is she ready for that? >> oh, absolutely. that's the thing about somebody who's come through the howard university tradition. if you can make it through a howard university speakout when you were running for elective office in that arena, you can absolutely make it on the stage. we are steeled for that. one thing that people need to understand is that women of color have dealt all their lives with disrespect, with being seen as other, with people who think that they don't belong in the positions that they're in. and so we don't come to this party not understanding that and
not being able to stand up and stand for what we believe in. we are raised in this, and so this is not new for us and she is ready. >> all right. jill and ian, thanks very much. i appreciate it. next, guests who donated to kamala harris's past campaigns for attorney general. donald trump and his daughter, ivanka. wow. interesting. interesting. what does harris do with that money? she'll soon be debating vice president mike pence. so how is that going to go? liberty mutual customizes your car insurance,
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harris. >> right, which kind of throws a wrench in the president attacking her and going after her in the way that he was just there in the briefing room. but erin, honestly, if you watched the president, he kind of seemed to struggle to really land this line of attack on kamala harris as he was talking about this. he appeared to be reading from this bullet point list. he kept looking down and looking back at us in the briefings room and he was talking about fracking, how she grilled supreme court justice brett kavanaugh over robert mueller. he says he found her disrespectful in that way and he talked about the memorable exchange she had with joe biden on the debate stage saying that he found it to be disrespectful. but he really didn't seem to have a clear line of attack on senator harris. even at one point i tried to ask him about the donation that not only came from the president and his daughter, the president made multiple donations to her. but even his treasury second also donated to her campaign in 2016. look how he reacted to those questions.
>> mr. president, why did you donate to kamala harris, then? >> $6,000 to her. >> so you see there at these briefings now, he just takes a few questions. he didn't call on me or answer that question. one bigger debate and campaign dilemma we're going to see from the president's re-election effort is whether or not to paint senator harris as this overzealous prosecutor back in her days when she was a prosecutor, or is she anti-cop and against the police, something they're trying to use on joe biden. but so far it has not been a successful line of attack. >> of course she's got, you know, a record on both sides of that. thank you very much, kaitlan. i want to go to angela rely and former counselor to bill clinton and the author of "you are fired." angela, you are close to senator harris. i know you spoke with her today. president trump went on in that
briefing, kaitlan was referring his line of attack. he said she was, quote, very, very nasty. she was probably nastier than even poke hcahontas to joe bide. it's hard to pick somebody that's that disrespectful. of course nasty is a word he likes to use. he used it a lot with hillary clinton. is this just how -- a taste of how it's going to go, angela, that he's come out right away with that word? >> first, i want to correct. i texted her today. i haven't talked to her. >> i'm sorry. >> that's okay, erin. you got a lot to do. besides minding my text messages. but i was going to say, you know, i'm not surprised by donald trump. he normally lodges this kind of attack against women, particularly women of color, particularly black women from jemele hill to congresswoman maxine waters. it's no surprise that this is the line of attack he chooses against senator kamala harris as
well as one of her colleagues, senator elizabeth warren. it is just like donald trump. he is super intimidated by women who have their voirce, who they are and what they bring to the table. nasty and ambitious women all the way until the election day. >> and so, paul, you know, is this what he's going to try to do? do you think it is fruitful at all for democrats that they found that he donated multiple times to her attorney general campaign? >> yes. i think it's sort of an inconvenient fact, isn't it, that donald trump -- he thinks she's terrible but donated to her. angela, i'm so psyched, so impressed. always have been, but you nailed this. just for democrats like us, that takes a ton of guts. people like me, i think i did the right thing for me was step back. hats off to angela.
you could see in that presser, trump doesn't know what to do. does he attack her for being black, being the daughter of immigrants from india, the racist roulette wheel was spinning in his hand. kwlirn whe he didn't know where to land. it's noteworthy. a woman said this on twitter, but she's right. when someone challenges donald trump, especially a woman, but even men, he gets rid of them. kamala challenged joe in those debates and he admired it. he likes a strong woman. he likes a strong -- even when somebody is standing up to him. i had the honor to be in the oval office. there's nothing more important than having people there who can stand up to the president. >> i want to play that moment. i want to play it for a specific reason because of something you said. paul, it's usually played in the context of, man, how could he pick her or he's so wonderful to be able to overcome this. but one thing that i saw in that
moment, angela, was something paul just said, which is joe biden seemed to kind of be shocked but have admiration. even in that moment, like, okay, you're bringing it, and i didn't expect medicisomeone to bring i wow. let me just play it again. >> i'm going to now direct this at vice president biden. i do not believe you are a racist. and i agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground. but i also believe -- and it's personal. it was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two united states senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country. and it was not only that, but you also worked with them to
oppose bussing. there was a little girl in california who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools, and she was bus to school every day, and that little girl was me. >> it was in that moment which continued to show, but angela, what does it say to you that he picked her? >> well, it says to me that he may be reckoning with his past, that he's ready to atone for the decisions he made as a legislator. maybe this is a turning point. maybe the fever pitch that this country reached with george floyd and breonna taylor and so many others maybe he finally heard those cries and he's willing to say i didn't get all those things right. time will tell, but i think we're a hell of a lot closer, erin, with kamala harris being at his side. >> paul, senator harris is a household name.
she ran for president. people know her, okay? most people know of her. biden surely picked her for several reasons, right? of course she is a black woman, right? and angela was among many who wrote a letter saying he needed to pick a black woman. in a quind i want to get angela weigh in on this too. but how important is that going for that voting block in her selection to joe biden? >> some of it as angela pointed out yesterday as she was publicly calling on joe to pick kamala, some of it is just -- political manners. joe is the nominee of my party because of african-americans, particularly african-american women. so some of it is that. but some of it is also that she's just so dad gum talented. i know she didn't do well in the
campaign, but she still shown in those debates, i think it's an asset. joe biden ran against barack obama and did poorly, but it made him a better candidate when he ran for vice president. bill clinton picked al gore and was a great running mate in 1992. having been through that gauntlet, i think she'll be the best governing partner. >> is she going to cause passion among black voters, particularly black female voters that we did not see in the early polls? >> what i'll tell you, erin, you brought up the letter with the 700 black women who signed on, there's not a woman i talked to today that wasn't screaming, crying, and thanking god. so i think that polling numbers change, they have since the racial tension that has unfolded in this country with covid-19 and george floyd. we're ready. we're ready. >> thank you both very much. >> bald white guy was dancing around too, angela. don't leave us out.
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breaking news. president trump going after joe biden's pick for vice president, senator kamala harris. >> she is a person that's told many, many stories that weren't true. she's very big into raising taxes. she's in favor of socialized medicine. she's also known from what i understand as being just about the most liberal person in the u.s. senate. >> kamala harris' friend and fellow california democrat barbara lee. you are early to do so, congresswoman, so these attacks coming from the president are just day one, right? we had played a moment ago, you know, he was call her nasty
several times in that exchange with joe biden on the debate stage. how will she take on president trump's attacks? >> you know, erin, first of all, let me just say how happy i am today. i'm happy for senator harris, of course, but i'm happy for our country. and, you know, donald trump is going to attack any woman, especially any woman of color, any african-american woman, and he's going to attack any democrat. so that's him. but let me just tell you a little bit about kamala harris, what we know about her. first of all, she is so for being the vice president. she represents the largest state in california, largest state in the country, excuse me. and she stands up to what's wrong in this country. she fights for racial justice. can you imagine in the debate with mike pence, just the hearings as it relates to --
excuse me -- the supreme court nominee, kavanaugh, when he was up for nomination. when you look at her performance on the judiciary committee, on the intelligence committee, when you look at the fact that she's connected so much to people throughout the country and because i was on the campaign trail with her, i can tell you one thing, grassroots organizers and grassroots activists and people at the local level really are excited about this ticket and will come out to vote. because she is prepared to be the vice president. >> so on this front, you know, maybe this is what is going to make her appealing, but it is where this is going to be the pressure. the president says she's the most liberal person in the u.s. senate. and yet, you have others who say, you know, that she's been criticized because she's a prosecutor in this era where there's focus on racial justice and crime, that she would be incapable of handling the situation because of her prosecutorial record.
two different criticisms. i asked her about that specifically recently, and she rejected this criticism. here she is. >> i know the system from the inside out. i'm a child of parents who marched in the civil rights movement in the 1960s and i strongly believe if we are going to change these systems, there has to be the kind of brilliant activism we've seen from the outside like black lives matter and the leadership there combined with what we need to do on the inside to actually upend these systems in a way that me when we make change to get closer to that ideal we have of equal justice under the law. and it takes everybody to be a part of that process and that movement. >> how would you describe her, knowing her and her senatorial and prosecutorial record? is she a progressive and the most liberal person in the senate or is that unfair? >> listen, first of all, there's nothing wrong with being a progressive. a progressive is an agenda for the people of the united states
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12 suspending fall sports. the president making it clear he thinks it's the wrong call. >> we want to get football and colleges, these are young, strong people. they won't have a big problem with the china virus. so we want to see college football start, and hopefully, a lot of great people are going to be out there playing football, and they will be able to fight it off and hopefully, it won't bother them one bit. most of them will never get it statistically. >> "outfront" with dr. sanjay gupta. they will never get it statist c statistically untrue. the vast majority of the population will end up getting this at some point and they may be well, young and strong. certainly that doesn't mean they won't have any problems or transmit it to others who could have problems. you know, but is it possible for
schools to essentially ramp up testing like the nba has, do bubbles like the nba has done and make this possible or is it just too much to wish for? >> look, i've spent a lot of time talking to folks at every level, nfl, nba, baseball, mlb trying to understand models. let me tell you, they are challenging models to implement at the professional sort of sports leagues. i think a football bubble is really out of the question. they were able to do this with the nba because everyone was essentially able to play in one location, which is down in orlando at walt disney world resort. football, this big field, you know, stadiums, it's tough to actually create a bubble-like atmosphere and these are students. so it's like it becomes a little irony if you bring students back to campus, are you just bringing them back to put them in a sports bubble? they are supposed to be coming back for their education. will they do virtual learning?
do you have testing? all the stuff that goes with this. to answer your question with consideration, i love college sports. i think it would be very hard to create that sort of atmosphere and environment of a bubble, which seems to be a way to keep players safe but hard to do -- >> you raise a good point. i understand the economics of college sports and how important and the emotion of it for so many players but if you don't have in person classes, it's hard to say we'll do this instead. i understand the point. the president said the u.s. is doing better than european countries. you know, almost as if that's okay we have 164,000 dead people even if it were true. here he is. >> since the end of july, the seven-day average for cases in the united states has fallen by nearly 20% but the virus continues to increase in nations across the globe. last week france and germany both recorded the highest daily number of new cases in three
months. not that i want to bring that up but might as well explain it to the media. >> what's the truth here? >> well, let me show you this graph. this is interesting, erin. this has been an issue throughout. it has to do with how you look at absolute numbers versus relative. yes, you can make the argument there is a slight uptick with the european union and a downward trend with the united states but i mean, the numbers speak for themselves. these graphs speak for themselves. we're talking about similar populations here. in fact, the e.u. in total is a larger population of the united states. they are way lower than we are, erin, and even if they trend up a little bit, we would be lucky to be in the position they are now. we're nowhere close. >> as you point out, their population is significantly larger when you look at the entire, you know, all of europe so, you know, to your point about relative versus absolute makes it look smaller. all right. sanjay, thank you very much.
now, the race for a vaccine. so you may have heard that russia today says they got one and it's a victory and approved one and it's good to go but doctors here in the u.s. say not so fast. >> i wouldn't take it, certainly not outside of a clinical trial right now. it appears it's only been tested in several hundred patients at most. they are certainly not ahead of us and we certainly wouldn't allow a vaccine to be used for mass distribution at this point based on the data we have in hand. >> matthew chance is "outfront". >> reporter: you couldn't accuse the kremlin of ignoring the propaganda value of its vaccine. they have even called it spotnick of the soviet satellite that launched the space race. now it's the vaccine race the kremlin says it's won hands down. >> translator: a vaccine against coronavirus is registered for
the first time in the world this morning. i know that it works quite effectively. it forms a stable immunity. >> reporter: but how does he know? well, he says one of his own daughters, perhaps the one who is an acrobatic dancer has been vaccinated or his eldest, a medical specialist, or putin says she had a slight temperature at first but feels much better now. extraordinary from a you shall aren president who rarely mentions his family, we don't know for sure how many children he has. still, it under lines how much confidence the kremlin wants to show in its new vaccine. despite concerns no clinical data is published, soldiers were used as volunteers in early testing and crucial third phase human trials and started worrying shortcuts. the kremlin dashed across the line. >> the point is not to be first with the vaccine. the point is to have a vaccine that is safe and effective for
the american people and people of the world. >> reporter: there is criticism inside russia, too, a prominent pharmaceutical industry body this week calling on health officials to postpone the vaccine because it may put lives at risk. not a warning that's been heeded. officials say front line health workers and teachers will be vaccinated first, then the elderly and other vulnerable groups. in fact, russian officials say there is a vast global appetite for their vaccine. applications for more than a billion doses they say have already been received from more than 20 countries. it may not be safe or even work, but russia can proclaim at least to itself that it is once again at planet saving scientific super power. matthew chance, cnn, moscow. >> and thanks for joining us. don't forget you can watch
"outfront" any time, anyway. "ac 360" with anderson cooper begins right now. good evening. it is a historic night in this country regardless of your politics. it is a historic night in this country because a short time ago, joe biden choose senator kamala harris of california to be his running mate for the democratic presidential ticket. she's the first black and asian american woman, as well on the presidential ticket and also the first candidate whose marriage is multi racial. her mother and father both immigrants from india and jamaica respectively, not only rose to prominent positions in academics but marched in the civil rights movement, giving what harris called a stroller eye view on activism from a young age. president obama released a statement after herschel election was announced i've ow