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top of the hour. good morning, we're so glad you're with us this tuesday, i'm poppy harlow. >> and i'm jim sciutto. a sitting member of congress is suing former president trump over his alleged role in last month's insurrection. house homeland security committee chairman benny thompson has filed a federal lawsuit accusing trump and his attorney rudy giuliani of conspiring to prevent congress
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from charging its duties in the certifying the 2020 election results that took place on january 6, the day of the insurrection. >> he's speaking an unspecified amount of money and seeking it directly from former president trump. let's begin this hour with our cnn justice correspondent jessica schneider. this is really interesting. question is will it prove successful for him. can you explain what he's basing his argument on? >> reporter: the chance of success is what is in question here, poppy. because this is a fofnovel and unprecedented lawsuit. this is a top democrat suing the former president with rudy giuliani, accusing both of them of conspiring with far right groups to incite the insurrection at the u.s. capitol. not only is this lawsuit seeking monetary damages from trump and giuliani, and it could subject the former president and others to depositions and the disclosure of other information
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that might expose more details about what trump knew about this attack. it is also notable that thompson is actually basing his claim on a post civil war era laws that that has never been used like this before. this is a law he's suing under, known as the kkk act. it was designed to stop the ku klux klan from interfering with federal law enforcement in the south. but in this case, he's alleging that trump and giuliani worked in concert with the proud boys and the oath keepers, the far right groups, to incite that violence at capitol, to stop congress from certifying the election results. so this is a very high bar to meet. congressman thompson is a legend that there is a conspiracy theory and trump's attorneys have argued that everything that he said is protected by the first amendment. i'm gone through this complaint, it's about 30 pages and it traces months of trump's
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rhetoric and at one point accused trump of delaying his speech that day on the ellipse so members of the proud boys to advance to the capitol and better plot their attack. this is a claim that is not backed up by any evidence in the lawsuit. so we'll see how that claim proceeds. but i talked to his attorney joseph sellers and he tells me their argument is that the insurrection was a carefully orchestrated plot over seen by donald trump mostly by words and actions and while this kkk statute has rarely been used but that adds to the credibility of the lawsuit because of the scant precedent, it is a reflection how extraordinary the events were surrounding january 6. so we're reaching out to the lawyers for trump and giuliani but i am told this morning that house speaker nancy pelosi has been briefed on this lawsuit and congressman thompson is suing trump and giuliani in his
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personal capacity, not as a member of congress. an unplus dent lawsuit here. >> mitch mcconnell and others said specifically that this could be dealt with in the courts. >> and that is -- >> reporter: and that is cited in this lawsuit as the reason they're putting this out there now. >> notable. jessica schneider, thank you very much. for more on what this means and the basic of the case, elliott williams from the justice department, and elliott go to have you on. so this is a civil case, i believe, which does have a lower standard of evidence than a criminal case, does it not. do you expect this to be the first of many in this category? after all, you have the family members of say for instance brian sicknick, people who lost not just their lives, right, life and limb. >> right. so i would not have predicted that a member of congress would be the first person to file a civil suit because you have the
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obvious civil suits brought by officer brian sicknick's family or anyone there or injured or frankly the city of the district of columbia could have a civil suit that would be a bit of a stretch for resources they needed to expend in response to the president's behavior. but this is a member of congress suing on behalf of his duties and congress's duties being conspiring with proud boys and so on. >> elliott, jim smartly brought up the comments on the floor on saturday after his vote to acquit the president. if anyone missed them, here is what he said. >> we have a criminal justice system in this country. we have civil litigation. and former presidents are not immune from being accountable by either one. >> politically it is significant to hear mcconnell say it but you should watch his actions. but legally, i wonder if you think it matters at all that he
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said that and if you could connect the dots for us to what congressman thompson is doing here. >> do i think congressman thompson is filing a suit because mitch mcconnell sort of created a green light for the courts, no, certainly not. but getting back to jessica's reporting and talking about the kkk act, when you look at the language of the statute which i pulled right here and going through it quickly, it is not that much of a stretch. it is the individual that seeks to prevent any person from discharging their duties, that is congress, by force intimidation or threat. those were there by the proud boys. now the question is did the president the law conspire with them or take steps in furtherance of helping them in common language what conspiracy is, help them or aid them in the commission of the offense. an that is not -- based on the language of the statute, that is not a stretch. now the question is what evidence is going to be there
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and what can congressman thompson and his attorneys establish beyond i guess a preponderance of the evidence here. we'll have to see. >> as president, elliott, trump deliberately got in the way of investigations. you look at the first impeachment trial and blocking testimony and he's a private citizen now. if he's called to be deposed here, does he have a recourse? >> he doesn't. now he will claim and if this lawyers are smart they'll claim based on communications while he had in the white house and this is tied to conduct that the president -- now remember this is what they said during the impeachment trial, that you can't come after him for it but he is a private citizen and doesn't have the protection of the white house and the white house counsel and so on around him to shield him. but it is the same arguments. they telegraph them in the impeachment proceedings that he's somehow immune and so we'll see how it plays out in the
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court. >> elliott, thank you so much for helping explain it to us. >> thank you. likely the first of many cases we'll be covering here. president biden will be taking the message about his $1.9 trillion covid relief package on the road tonight and he will face questions, hard questions during a cnn presidential town hall in milwaukee. >> the president narrowly won wisconsin in november, now he'll have to bring the message of unity as he tried to push through the biggest item on his agenda so far. let's go to jeff zeleny speaking with people in wisconsin in the lead up to tonight's town hall. listen too what they told him. >> yes, i'm giving him a shot. >> reporter: carolyn didn't vote for joe biden but pulling for his success. >> think he's a very nice man and very good, one of the last politicians that could go across the aisle and meet with people and i think that is a big plus. >> reporter: when we first met
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quinlan in the heat. campaign, she was torn. >> he has done a few things that i thought were important. >> reporter: but said she ultimately decided trump would do a better job fixing the economy. >> i voted for trump. >> reporter: in the end biden won wisconsin by less than one point and the city of ciderberg by only 19 votes turning the suburb of milwaukee blue for the first time in a quarter century. with most signs long gone, it is a new season and many feel it is a fresh start from the trump era. >> not having to be glued to the tv or social media to find out what the latest is going on has been very refreshing. >> reporter: natasha is a small business owner who supported biden but senses a new era of calm. >> so you could really tell there is more civility now.
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>> without a doubt. i feel that is come back as it pertained to mask. i want to share joy and happiness every day. >> you sell toys. >> i sell toys and i wat not part of being any political in my store. that is just something we don't try to do here. >> reporter: the head winds facing the administration on coronavirus come into sharper view at a nearby vaccination center. >> our goal is to provide a thousand vaccines a day seven days a week. the only limitation we currently have is getting the vaccine. >> paul pharaoh is an executive who received only 900 dose this is week instead of 7,000. he voted for president trump but praised biden's pledge to restore unity. >> for me, it is compromise. and by that i mean it is working together to come up with a solution. >> reporter: yet compromise comes with complications for biden. they help push biden over the finish line as black voters did
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across the country. >> we elect people knowing they are not going to be perfect and we have to hold them accountable. >> reporter: she's waiting for biden to take steps to combat racism, a chief criminal justice reform and broader equity. >> i get skeptical and nervous when they say they want to unite and bring everyone together. i think sometimes that means watering down progressive policies for the sake of unity. >> congratulations, mr. president. >> reporter: and for biden that is the challenge. trying to be a successful leader in the eyes of lang, quinlan and all others who hunger for change. >> he's the president, so it is like let him do his job. and then we could decide in four years if they want him or somebody else. >> reporter: so the overriding sentiments when you talk to voters who supported joe biden and those who did not, there is a sense of people are pulling for his success, particularly on covid-19, getting the vaccinations out and economic relief as well.
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they're also are questions here about opening schools, about other agenda items moving forward. but there is no question now as mr. biden heads into the second month of his presidency, this is a key one as he tries to build support in the country for that economic relief plan. it is one of the reasons he's coming here to wisconsin to take those questions tonight, jim and poppy. >> and those will be the big tests. the health one and the economic one. thank you very much. a reminder that president biden's exclusive town hall with anderson cooper starts tonight at 9:00 only here on cnn. still to come this hour, the seven day average of new coronavirus infections is down 72% in just one month. are we finally seeing signs of progress. dr. anthony fauci will join me live to talk about reopening of schools and more coming up. and congressman adam kinzinger gets a scathing letter from family members essentially
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this just into cnn, connecticut said it is now identified its first case of a
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variant that otriginated in souh africa. but new coronavirus infections are plummeting. monday over 250,000 were reported about a fifth of where it was in october. last month we were seeing you may remember 200,000 new infections per day at the peak, 236 cases per day since then, the drop by about 72%. we're joined now to discuss this and other headlines this morning with white house chief medical adviser, dr. anthony fauci. you may have heard of him. thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you, jim, good to be with you. >> so we're watching new infections drop as well as new hospitalizations. that is good news. but i wonder what is behind it? one of your colleagues, andy slavic, this morning he said that this drop could be misleading. i wonder, is it misleading or is this a sipe th-- a sign that we getting this under control. >> i think andy was referring to that we just have to be careful
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about getting too excited about that because we do have the challenge of variants. but i think you correctly said, jim, this is good news. i mean, there were times as you mentioned where we a few hundred thousand per day and now we're below 100,000 and continuing to go down in the sharp downward trajectory, which hopefully that will continue. one of the things that we need to make sure we do is we don't get complacent when we see those numbers go down. we've got to continue with the public health measures as much as we've been doing it for a long time and people are fatigued with it, we have to continue until we get it so low that it is no longer a threat. and simultaneous with that downward trajectory, are more and more people getting vaccinated, every day, every week, more people are getting vaccinated. so those two things together will get us to the point where
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we'll keep going in the right direction. as mentioned, we have to keep our eye on the variants, namely the mutations. but good news is that the one that is the more dominant, the u.k. variant, the 117, that the model is telling us will be probably dominant in our own country by the end of march. that is pretty well protected by the vaccines that we're using. so that is pretty good news in that regard. >> okay. that is good news on that. i do want to ask you bigger picture here, i spoke with dr. paul offit he believes the drop could mean that perhaps three or four times as many americans were actually infected with the virus as the numbers of confirmed cases show 27 million, he thinks it could be as high as 100 million and giving a larger portion of the population some immunity and i wonder if you agree with that. >> it is a possibility, jim. i can't say i agree with it.
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i would -- what paul is saying is that there have been many more people that have been infected and if that being the case, then if you add the vaccine component of herd immunity together with the infection protection that you get from infection, the only way to know that is to do surveys to get a feel for what percentage actually anybody, which would indicate that they had previously infected. so it is certainly a possibility. but i don't think we've proven it yet. >> there has been some whiplash in the public, because they're hearing conflicted messaging about, for instance, when large portions of the population, most of it, will have access for instance to the vaccine. you have said that perhaps we're going to begin to see some normalcy by april, you hear from the cdc director perhaps later in the summer. i get that a lot of the questions are not written in stone here. but i wonder, if those time line
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predictions create more confusion than they help. >> yeah, well, in some respects they do. but let me clarify it a bit, jim. and i think there is a compatibility with what each of these individuals, myself included, are saying. if you start talking about when vaccine would be more widely available to the general population, i was hoping that that would be by the end of april. meaning they have gone through all of the priorities and now say, okay, anyone with get it. that is predicated on j&j, the johnson product have more doses than now we know they're going to have. so that timeline will probably be prolonged maybe into mid to late may and early june. that is fine. but what you've got to be careful of is when vaccines become available, and when they have actually been successfully administered, and i think the
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apparent conflict in statements is not really a conflict. because you could say, let's say in may vaccines are going to be widely available to almost anybody, may and june, but it may take until june, july and august to finally get everyone vaccinated. >> okay. >> so when you hear about how long it is going to take to get the overwhelming proportion of the population vaccinated, i don't think anybody disagrees that that is going to be well into the end of the summer and we get into the early fall. when will we be able to start on that process is probably going to be in the springtime. because the whole process is going to take a few months to actually get implemented. so therefore i don't think there is in consistency with what people are saying. >> you're still hopeful that by the end of the summer that large portions should feel they have a pretty good shot of being vaccinated by then? >> i do believe that, jim. yes. unless there -- things happen with supply, this is a
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biological, there could be some glitches. but if things go smoothly, i believe what you just said could come out to be an eventuality. >> let's talk about schools. because school reopening is the issue of contention and some confusion. because if you look at the number of districts that are now in that what we call a red category where you have lots of transmission or substantial transmission, that is like 89%, right. now you and i have had many conversations about this and to your credit you've been consistent. when do you think transmission is under control, it is safe to open the schools but in many cases that's not by the cdc standards to explain why it is safe to open schools even when those community transmission rates, community spread rather, is still high. >> yeah. but you're right, there can be some confusion there. what the guidelines are saying, that there are a number of things that you could mitigate to make it safer. regardless of what level you're in. obviously, you know, the blue,
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yellow, orange, red doan and you're absolutely correct, if you look at the country, a considerable proportion are in that zone. where you really have to be careful because that is a higher risk. but what the guidelines are saying is that there are a number of things that people are asking for help and guidance of what can we do to make this more safe. and you saw them. there is masking, there is distancing, there is contact tracing and cleansing of the areas. but there is also vaccination of the teachers. and i think that is important. and it is become clear that that is not a sin quenon. it is very helpful and all of us are very empathetic and want the teachers to get vaccinated. they are a priority when it comes to essential personnel. but we think we can move forward as we vaccinate teachers but it doesn't have to be that if they're not vaccinated then you don't open the school. so i think hopefully that
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clarifies it a little bit. >> final question, you're a new yorker yourself, though you don't live there right now. an andrew cuomo is coming under criticism for the big move back to long-term care facilities in the midst of this crisis here. he's argued that his state was following federal guidelines when he ordered those long-term care facilities to accept patients returning from hospitals. i wonder, could you clear that up. was he following federal guidelines to do that? >> you know, jim. i can't, i'm sorry, i honesty am not trying to evade your question but i'm not sure of the details of that and i think if i make a statement, it is probably could either be incorrect or taken out of context. so i prefer not to comment on that. >> okay, final question then on vaccination. because on the issue of whether there was a plan in place before the biden administration took over, kamala harris, she spoke, the vice president spoke to hbo axios over the weekend and she
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said, she used this phrase again, we're starting from scratch. and i wonder if you agree with that, that the vaccination plan come january 20th of this year, that you were starting from the beginning there or was there something in place that just needed improvements? >> well what i think the vice president is referring to is that the actual plan of getting the vaccine doses into people's arms was really rather vague. i mean, it was not a well coordinated plan. getting the vaccines made, getting them shipped through operation warp speed was okay. but i believe what the vice president is referring to is what is the process of actually getting these doses into people. that is something that we had to get much better organized now with getting the community vaccine centers, getting the pharmacies involved, getting mobile units involved. so that is what i believe she was referring to. >> okay. do we have a plan now in your view? a workable plan to get a significant enough of a plan to
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get vaccinations into people's arms? >> yes. absolutely, jim. the critical issue is that the demand far outways the supply. that is the issue. as these vaccines coming in in greater quantities as we get into march and april, with both moderna and pfizer increasing the amounts of doses they'll give us in addition to j&j, i'm a little dispinted that the number of doses that we'll get early on from j&j are relatively small but as we get further into the spring, there will be more and more. that is what we need, jim. we need more doses. we have a good plan how to get the doses into people's arms, we just need more vaccine. >> we'll be watching closely. dr. fauci, thank you for the work that you do. >> thank you, jim. thank you for having me. >> and we'll be right back. car e so you only pay for what you need? i mean it...
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leaders from continuing to peddle the big lie that the election was stolen. it is not true. and as sara sidner reports, he's become even more vocal. >> reporter: members of the extremist anti-government oath keepers were a part of this siege. [ crowd chanting ] >> reporter: they're seen in combat gear brazenly bragging about breaching the capitol. >> we're in the [ bleep ] capitol. >> reporter: the group is known for recruiting current and former members of the military and law enforcement. it has emerged as one of the groups that is a major focus of federal investigators. the fbi is trying to hunt down the suspects in these photos, some of whom are wearing oath keeper gear. these three alleged oath keepers and military veterans jessica watkins, dover crawl and donovan
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quell were the first. >> they received messages while at the capitol. >> reporter: the federal claims against the oath keepers mentioned during the second impeachment trial against former president trump. >> the leader was given directions to where representatives were thought to be sheltering and instructions to, quote, turn on gas. seal them in. >> reporter: an accused leader of the group caldwell denies any involvement with the oath keepers. his attorney claims the fbi has shown no evidence of him inside of the capitol. in court papers he said he worked for the fbi and held a top security clearance since 1979. but this is also caldwell talking about members of congress on january 6th. >> every single [ bleep ] in there is a traitor. every single one. >> reporter: a source with inside knowledge of how the oath keeper operate told cnn about a dozen members were in federal
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law enforcement. but purposely kept off the groups' official member data base. >> would it be surprised that a member of law enforcement is a member of the oath keepers? >> unfortunately not. for years oath keepers have been targeting military and law enforcement personnel, especially at the federal level with their messaging recruitment. >> reporter: federal prosecutors say just days before at tack, caldwell discussed with another extremist bringing weapons across the potomac via boat. we could have our quick response team with the heavy weapons standing by. load them and ferry them across the river to our waiting arms. federal agencies say he accused oath keepers crowell and watkins and he saidly probably do prestrike on the fifth and do? some night hunting and when his friends from north carolina will show up. in video from january 6th, it appears that the three may not have been acting alone.
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watkins is seen with others marching towards the capitol. the fbi said she was part of a group of eight to ten people all wearing para military gear and oath keeper paraphernalia. here she is behind the guy with the eye patch, the leader and founder of the oath keeper, stewart rhodes, in the november trump rally in d.c. two months later he's seen outside of the capitol during the attack. he has not been charged with any crime. he was clear on his oath keeper's mission in d.c. >> our mission there is as we stated in our call to action to go to d.c., it was always to protect people and protect venues and events and that is it. to be vip escorts. >> reporter: and some did, apairing to stand guard with roger stone. this is oath keeper from new jersey. later that day he's seen yelling at police outside of the capitol.
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soon after a man wearing the same goggles and clothing is seen breaching the capitol. despite the mounting evidence and man hunt, this is rhodes 24 days after the siege talking about the current member. >> who will be the spark. >> reporter: still spewing the lie that the election was stolen and egg on his followers to act. >> you have to declare this regime to be ill ligt and everything that comes out of king biden's mouth as illegitimate and null and void from inception because he's not a legitimate president. >> he's continuing to use violent rhetoric and spread conspiracy theories that frame today's events in a way that necessity action on the part of liz followers. >> reporter: rhodes said it was a mistake for people to go inside of the capitol that day. even if light of the insurrection, his rhetoric has not changed. >> they have plans for us that they know we'll rebel against
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and they're afraid because there are 365 million of us, we outnumber them vastly and we're well armed so they have a problem and so they're afraid. >> reporter: now we should mention that we reached out to roberto mento appearing to guard raes and someone at his biz said they have no comment. and we tried to reach out to jessica watkins and crowell but so far they don't have attorneys representing them and they are currently in jail an conspiracy charges and more. poppy and jim. >> sara sidner, what a piece. thank you. >> great piece. >> for all of that. you continue to do valuable work for all of us. so thanks for that, sarah. we'll be right back.
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the cdc said that hesitancy toward the covid-19 vaccine is declining. that is good news. but in nursing homes nationwide many employees who were prioritized first for vaccinations and who were at great risk remain reluctant. >> that is right. data showed during the first month of the vaccine rollout, just about 38% of nursing home staff received vaccinations. with us dr. asheesh merchant at newton wellesley hospital and spent two decades working in nursing homes and an adviser to the governor of massachusetts on covid vaccination. so it is good to have you, dr. merchant. >> thank you. my pleasure. >> i wonder why you think the hesitancy. because you're the medical director at four different major long-term care facilities across the state of massachusetts. is that what you're seeing? about half of folks that work
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there don't want to take the vaccine, and if so, why? >> i think that is what my experience has been. i've been if long-term care for over two decades now. and i classify them into groups which will say, yes i want to take the vaccine and i want it right now, the second group saying i don't want to be the first one to take the vaccine and the third group is i'm never going to take the vaccine. so those are the three groups that i've been seeing. the top issue is really mistrust of the vaccine. and mistrust of the system. >> so what, i wonder, the irony here is that many of these workers, one, they're at greater risk, particularly people of color, they are suffering disproportionately from covid-19 but yet have greatest hesitancy. so what is the best way to combat that, to get through those fears? >> right. and the amount of death and
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disease that we've seen in nursing homes, you would think that everybody would want to take the vaccine as soon as possible. the major issue is with people of color are there is a history of experimentation with certain groups, minority groups in the united states, and in that case is a factor. also nursing homes are less thought about and this time we're in the top group to get the vaccinations so there is a little bit of skepticism. but there is also a lot of misinformation, false information, also people are concerned about how could a vaccine be developed so quickly and they don't understand the science behind it, they don't understand that it does the work that has been done over the last decade or so that has enabled us to come up with a working vaccine and highly effective vaccines i should say, this quickly. >> yeah. >> given how vulnerable the populations within these long-term care facilities, those
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nursing homes are, would it be your advice to the governor given that your advising governor baker to mandate them for employees? >> um, that would be one way of doing it. in mandate. but since these vaccines are not fda approved, they are under what is called an eua, emergency use approval. i'm not sure, would you leave it up to the lawmakers to decide on that. >> but let's be clear for people because i worry people listen to you and hearing they're not fda approved might think they're any less safe and that is not what that means, right. >> that is not what it means, no. so, the eua is done for vaccines or medications that really have no other alternatives. and they go through the same rigorous standards of safety and efficacy trials, revealing all of the data before the vaccine is approved. so for example, after taking both of the shots of the vaccine and i highly encourage everybody else to do the same.
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>> yep. we're waiting. jim and i are waiting. it is a real blessing for people who could get it ant front line workers like you should be the first. thank you doctor. >> my pleasure. richard burr is not backing down after his own north carolina republican party censured him. you'll hear more of what he said, next. calzone from doughbas in aurora. (doorbell) rock on. tonight i'll be eating lobster thermidor au gratin. really? sh-yeah, and monkeys might fly out of my butt. make it two calzones! new projects means new project managers. sh-yeah, and monkeys might fly out of my butt. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed
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welcome back. so the political divide within the republican party seems, jim, to be growing by the day. >> republican parties and states
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around the country are voting to cen censure senators who voted to convict president trump. not all of them. manu raju is on the hill. so north carolina senator burr, he's the latest to be censured and poppy talked to the utah republican party, and they're not censuring, what is happening. >> reporter: there is very little they could do other than the censure. most of the senators who voted to convict donald trump are not up for re-election, only lisa murkowski is and it is a slap on the wrist saying the party does not agree with the decision they pead here and a sign that the state parties in particular have a lot of donald trump loyalists and it will express their opposition to what these votes that have occurred over the weekend. you mentioned richard burr. also bill cassidy, the louisiana republican senator faced censure from his state party immediately
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after his vote. you see congresswoman liz cheney who voted to impeach donald trump and one of tep house republicans, he faced a censure from wyoming and as did tom rice for his vote for impeachment. senator ben sasse has not been formally censured but we're expecting that to happen. there are threats of that happening and also in pennsylvania for pat toomey, who voted to convict donald trump, also susan collins of maine, the centrist republican who just won her re-election. but what we've heard from the members, many of them that have put out public statements, they're standing by the vote despite the backlash they have suffered back home. this is from rich burr over the weekend following his censure, he said it is truly a sad day for north carolina republicans, my party's leadership has chosen loyalty to one man over the core principles of the republican party and the founders of our
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great nation. as we're seeing here in the aftermath of the vote, still backlash from these members who defied donald trump, but these members pushing back. >> well now mitch mcconnell threatening to get involved in those prooimary races to push bk again the far right wing part of the party. we'll see. manu raju on the hill. and thank you for joining us today. we'll see you tomorrow morning. i'm poppy harlow. >> and i'm jim sciutto. and "newsroom" with kate bolduan starts right after a short break. good morning! this is where everything started. the four way is engulfed in history. you're sitting in the place where giants ate. the four way is the heart and soul of the community. ♪
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hello, i'm kate bolduan, thank you for joining us this hour. just filed, the first civil lawsuit targeting donald trump and rudy giuliani over the violent riot on the capitol january 6 accusing the former president and his personal attorney of conspiring with the proud boys and the oath keepers to incite the insurrection. the case is being brought by congressman benny thompson of mississippi and it is backed by the naacp. thompson is a democratic chair of the house homeland security committee. so despite being acquitted this weekend for inciting the violence, donald trump is still facing fallout. this comes as a moment that the

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