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about the few cuture of the cou. and so living in the white house, as you heard other presidents who have been extremely flattered to live there, has -- it's a little like a guilded cage in terms of being able to walk outside and do things. the vice president's residence was totally different. 80 acres overlooking the rest of the city. you could walk out -- there's a swimming pool. you can walk off the porch in the summer and jump in the pool and go into the work. you can ride a bicycle around and never leave the property and work out. you can -- but the white house is very different. and i feel a sense of -- i must tell you, a sense of history about it. john leech m, who you know,
several other presidential historians helped me with this. i asked my brother, who's good at this, to set up the oval office for me. it all happens in two hours, literally. they move everything out and move something in. it was interesting to hear these historians talk about what other presidents have gone through and the moments and who the people who stepped up to the ball and who are the people that didn't. and what you realize is the most consequential thing for me is although i've known this watching seven presidents who i got to know fairly well is i always in the past looked at the presidency in the terms of abraham lincoln and franklin roosevelt and george washington like they're superhuman. but i had to remind myself that they're really fine men that i knew well, the last seven
presidents. and at least there are people who knew well enough to know that i play on the same team with. so, it took away the sense of this is my god. i'm not abraham lincoln. i'm not franklin roosevelt. how do i deal with these problems? >> have you picked up the phone and called any former president yet? >> yes, i have. >> do you want to say who? >> no, i don't. they're private conversations. but, by the way, all of them, with one exception, picked up the phone and called me as well. >> i know you want to talk about him. >> no, but look, it's the greatest honor, i think, an american can be given from my perspective. and i literally pray that i have
the capacity to do for the country what you all deserve need be done. but one thing i learn after eight years with barack is no matter how consequential the decision, i got to be the last person in the room with him literally on every decision. i can make had a recommendation, but i walked out of the room and it was all him, man. nobody else. buck stops there. and that's where you pray for making sure you're looking at the impact on the country and a little bit of good luck at the judgment you're making. >> mr. president, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> in this town hall. we want to thank our audience for being here, for their questions. we also want to thank for
hosting. "cnn tonight" with don lemon "cnn tonight" with don lemon starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com and you just heard the president joe biden in our cnn town hall answering questions for more than an hour on the pandemic and the economy, condemning the rise of white supremacy and calling for this country to deal with systemic racism as we look at these live pictures now still coming in from the town hall site in milwaukee. now in the hall, masked, invitation-only socially distanced audience, joe biden is still there, the president, and anderson cooper still on page. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. we're going to go over the notable moments by tonight. the president saying by next christmas, things could be back to normal and the pandemic could
be behind us, saying that by july there will be enough vaccine for everyone who wants it. and then taking time to reassure an 8-year-old girl who's afraid of the virus. i want to get to kaitlan collins with the latest on this. let's talk about the president. made some news tonight on the pandemic and vaccines as he's still behind you on the stage as we're looking. give us the headlines. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. he did. and one of the big questions, of course, has been when is everyone american who wants a vaccine going to be able to get one. of course you can hear behind me he's still interacting with the audience. it's down below. we're up here on the balcony right now. he said he believes the answer to that question of when every american who wants one is going to get one is the end of july. that's when he says those 600 million doses he believes will be available, of course that came with a really important caveat, which is that does not mean all of those vaccines will have been distributed by then. that just simply means when they'll be available.
that's something he's continued to stress, which is when the actual vaccinators are going to be a big process of this, getting those shots administered into the arm of people. of course the next big question is when are kids going to be back in school. there was a question about this that anderson brought up tonight because just a few days ago in the briefing room, jen psaki, the white house press secretary said the definition of the campaign promise of getting kids back into schools and reopen meant at least one day back in the school per week. and so biden said tonight that that was a miscommunication. he said that is not his goal. he said that he does still want that to happen but he believes it's going to be k-8 and he believes that will happen by the end of his first 100 days in office. he said high schools are a different story, and he did suggest this could be an idea of a summer school, an additional school semester and of course those decisions will be up to the localities and the teachers'
unions. >> kaitlan, let's listen to that. stand by. >> your administration had set a goal to open the majority of schools in your first hundred days. you're now saying that means those schools may only be open for one day a week. >> no, that's not true. that's what was reported. that's not true. there was a mistake in the communication. what i'm talking about is i said opening the majority of schools in k through 8th grade because they're the easiest to open, the most needed to be open in terms of the impact on children and families having to stay home. >> when do you think it will be five days a week? >> i think we'll be close to that at the end of the first hundred days. we've had a significant percentage being open. my guess is they're going to be pushing to open all for -- all summer to continue like it's a different semester. >> do you think that will be five days a week or just a
couple? >> i think many of them five days a week. the goal will be five days a week. it's going to be harder to open up the high schools for the reasons i've said. just like if you notice the contingent factor in colleges is much higher than it is in high schools or grade schools. >> so, kaitlan, i think he made it fairly clear with everything else. k-8 grades will open at the end of the first 100 days and then maybe high schools can open after that. but he is implying that summer school could become a thing. that's interesting. implying again here -- i should say using the word imply again -- that students are behind and they need a lot of catching up to do. that's why they need to carry on year end until they catch up. >> yeah, he stressed the importance of that. i do wonder how at one moment here there was a little girl in the audience who was with her mom. and she wanted to ask a question
about children getting coronavirus. and of course i'll leave the medical aspect of that up to sanjay gupta. but what he was doing was talking about how children do not get it at the same rite as adults and talking about that. you have to wonder if that's going to be something that is going to be factored into this debate that has been raging in the united states over whether or not schools should reopen, when they should reopen, what that should look like. and that was an answer she did use here tonight. >> i want to bring in jeff zeleny. he joins us as well. jeff, it's interesting. this is the president's first road trip out to talk to people. we had politicians like barack obama, joe biden is among them showing sympathy out on the campaign trail and also connecting with voters. almost every answer was a personal aside before answering to voters in the crowd. >> don, it was. and that is classic joe biden. i just stepped out of the room just as the town hall was
ending. and really to awe e person, to individual questioner, he drew a connection. he told an old story about something his mother said or how, you know -- a lot of us have heard these before. but this is the first time this president, he is doing this. so, he is relatable in every measure of the word. yes, he rambles from time to time. but he's absolutely relatable. and i think that is something that americans like to see from their president. but, don, it was that moment that kaitlan was just referring to with the second grader that he offered reassurance. he said, don't be scared, honey. he said, you will be fine. she was worried and is worried that she will get the coronavirus. of course this is something young children have been living with a large portion of their young lives. and when he slowed the conversation down, not talking about the senate or the house or policies or this or that, that was such a moment that presidents like to connect like that. so, joe biden does that much better than many do. so, i think that was one of the
many memorable connections of the evening. now, did he make some grand policy pronouncement or make headway on how he's going to get the covid bill passed? not necessarily tonight. but he was absolutely relatable. and there was the sense that there is a new president. yes, we've known that. but as he enters the second month of his presidency, it has the sense it's an entirely different moment. so, these young children will be growing up with a different president. so, that, to me, don, stuck out tremendously as he talked to that second grader. >> kaitlan, at one point the president referred to the former president as the former guy. i said is he speaking to the media right now because he doesn't want to talk about him. he wants to put him -- meaning the former guy, as he says -- behind him, in the rear-view mirror. >> yeah, well, jeff noting this is entering almost the second month of his presidency. the first half -- the first beginning part of it has really
been -- had donald trump looming in the background in so much of it because of that impeachment trial. as you heard at the end as they were ending, president biden said that he has gotten a call from every single living former president with the exception of one. he did not name, of course, donald trump, but that is the implication that he is the one who has still not called his successor, something we know of course had happened as of the day he actually took office. but he repeatedly made a point tonight saying he did not want to talk about donald trump. when he was asked about the outcome of the impeachment trial and the fact that former president trump was not convicted by his fellow republicans by a large majority. he said he didn't want to talk about him. he said that repeatedly. i think that's something you'll start to see at the white house more and more as they start to move the biden agenda to the forefront and stop talking so much about the former president. >> jeff, i'm glad you could run over and give us time. >> he also didn't talk about -- he also didn't talk about
republicans, if i can say really quickly. >> yeah. >> he did not take the bait. he said speaker pelosi has called republicans cowards. no, no, he wants some of these republicans to vote for his initiatives. we'll see if they do. i thought it was interesting. as kaitlan said, he didn't want to talk about president trump but also did not want to pile on to republicans. >> thank you both. i appreciate the conversation. be safe. i'll see you soon. i want to bring in abby phillip, gloria borger and david axelrod. good evening to one and all. it has been interesting standing by watching this. the president the first time out of the white house meeting with -- having a town hall with the american people. gloria, let's start with you because the big news tonight, everyone's wondering when are we going to get back to normal? when are we going to get back to normal? the president said back to normal by christmas and there will be a vaccine by the end of july readily available to everyone. not making promise -- >> he said he hopes so. >> right, not making promises.
but this is a leadership moment for president biden. what did you think? >> i think it -- i think it was a leadership moment. donald trump in the rear-view mirror. and he came out -- and i think what he was trying to do tonight really was to be reassuring to the american people without overpromising. everybody wants to get back to normal. everybody wants their kids back in school. everybody -- or lots of people -- want to get vaccinated. and he promised those 600 million vaccines. he didn't say everyone would get vaccinated, however. he said we're going to spend more money getting vaccinations into people's arms. he wants kids to go back to school, but he said, waut a minute, maybe not all at once. maybe the older kids are going to have to wait. the younger kids can go back to school. but most of all, i think what we saw tonight was a president who was not preoccupied with telling you how fabulous he is or what a great job he is doing.
he was authentic joe biden, as those of us who have covered him over the years have known, trying to level with the american people, saying, look, we have a lot to do. here's what i'm for. for example, i'm for the minimum wage, although i see a way we could do it gradually. here's what i'm for. here's what we're trying to do. and let us try and get this done. >> yeah. >> and that's who joe biden is. >> yeah. i think he also made some news which i'll talk a little bit later about about not defunding the police -- >> yeah. >> -- even though during the campaigns republicans decided to paint him with that brush of wanting to defund the police. but i digress. i'll get to that later in the show. did president biden make the case for this $1.9 trillion rescue package that he wants passed? >> let's be clear. he's pushing on an open door. a lot of the elements he talked about tonight are very, very popular if you look at polling. people want this to pass. and i thought he made a very
human case for why it was important to pass when he talked about the people, the 10 million who are out of work, when he talked about the small business people who have lost their businesses. the thing about joe biden is he speaks in very human terms. and these town halls are sort of -- if he were an olympian, this would be his gold medal event, these town halls, because there are people in front of him. he can relate to them and their problems, and he speaks to them in a very colloquial way about those problems. i thought he was effective on that. you know, there are no definite answers to these questions. this is a very, very difficult problem and he was careful not to be emphatic about these deadlines. but i actually think that moment that jeff and kaitlan mentioned is so important when he spoke to that little girl. what people want to know is that someone's on the job and cares about them and is working every day to make this right. i think he did communicate that, don. let me just say a couple of
other things. i do think gloria's absolutely right. he was authentic, but he is authentic and that is another great strength of his. and he radiates decency, and i think that came across. he wasn't willing -- you mentioned the defunding police line, which was, i think, very important. he went on to talk about the reforms that were necessary but also on student loans. he didn't give an answer that was necessarily an answer that every progressive democrat wanted that he would write down $50,000 of student debt. so, he was very frank, he was very honest, and he was very common sense cal. i think he had a great night. >> i want to talk to abby about this. joe biden is dealing with the moderates and has the progressive wing of the party as well. the $15 minimum wage is a sticking point between moderate and progressive democrats. did it sound to you like it's going to make it into this final rescue package or not?
>> well, i mean, i think it's clear that joe biden believed in a $15 minimum wage, but i do think that he is cognizant that this is something that may not make it at the end of the day, whether it's for procedural reasons or for political reasons. and not just because republicans might not want it there, but maybe even some moderate democrats may not necessarily think that this is the right vehicle for that. i mean, you heard him talk about how the -- getting there gradually. i mean, that is the plan for the minimum wage, but it seems to signal that they feel that they have more time to get to that point. and it's not in the same category of things like school funding, like money for vaccinations and so on and so forth where there is a sense of urgency of right now this needs to get done before it's too late. so, you know, you do see him kind of positioning himself in some of these ways to make it clear that he supports the idea.
and i think similarly on student loans. he supports the idea of cancelling some student loans. the question is how far does he go or how far do the politics allow him to go in this moment. >> he talked about white supremacy, the racial dispair on the vaccine and said there would be no defunding the police, as we just mentioned. what is the message he's putting out here? what do you think is behind this? what is he trying to convey? >> well, look, i mean this is the -- this is where joe biden has been on this issue really from the beginning. trying to give voice to the desire for justice and equal treatment when it comes to black people being able to not fear for their lives from police, but not going so far to the left. i mean i think on so many of these issues -- and defunding
the police is really no different -- joe biden is not willing to go necessarily where activists want him to go. but he does want a voice, a desire for reform, a desire for there to be changes made to the system. and that is probably as close as you're going to get to joe biden's true north star politically. i mean, this is not someone who has been known for being kind of on the far edges of his party. he wants to be center left. and he's probably further left than he has been in his career and this is no different than that. >> thank you so much -- >> and don -- >> yes? >> i just want to add on white supremacy. biden came out there and said these guys are demented. they are dangerous people. it is clear that he will treat -- or his administration
will treat white supremacists who endanger other people's lives as domestic terrorists. >> well, as it should be, right? thank you very much. i appreciate each of you. she called out white supremacists for a full week. what does she think about what president biden had to say about it tonight. we're going to talk about her policy and what the president said. the former impeachment manager, current congresswoman, stacey plaskett is next. >> i got involved in politics to begin with because of civil rights and oppositions to white supremacists, the ku klux klan and the most dangerous people in america continue to exist. plat. mhm, yeah, that too. i don't want any trade minimums. yeah, i totally agree, they don't have any of those. i want to know what i'm paying upfront. yes, absolutely. do you just say yes to everything? hm. well i say no to kale. mm. yeah, they say if you blanch it it's better,
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that as a top democratic lawmaker sues the former president in the january 6th riot. joining me now is stacey plaskett. we're so happy to have her here. thank you so much for joining. you're the first lawmaker to discuss the president going out having a town hall with the american people. good eveningment. i want you to listen to the president and his plan to take on white supremacy first. here it is. >> sure. >> i got involved in politics to begin with because of civil rights and opposition to white supremacists, the ku klux klan. and the most dangerous people in america continue to exist. that is the greatest threat to terror in america, domestic terror. so, i would make sure that my justice department and the civil rights division is focused heavily on those very folks. and i would make sure that we, in fact, focus on how to deal
with the rise of white supremacy. and you see what's happening in studying beginning to be done maybe at your university as well, about the impact of former military, former police officers on the growth of white supremacy in some of these groups. you may remember in one of my debates with the former president, i asked him to condemn the proud boys. he wouldn't do it. he said, stand by, stand ready or whatever the phrase exactly was. it is a bain on our existence. it has always been. as lincoln said, we have to appeal to our better angels, and these guys are not -- and women -- are in fact demented. they are dangerous people. >> well, congresswoman, i don't need to tell you the akind of people that showed up at the capitol of that ilk. does the president have the right idea about what needs to happen? >> i think he does. and isn't it refreshing to hear someone speaking to us, a
president, who is speaking transparent with a great deal of transparency explaining what he knew, what he didn't know as he was talking to that little girl, the young american, and outlining how he was going to tackle issues that are really very large. the issue of white supremacy, i think that it's going to have to be multilayered. so, i'm so grateful to congressman bennie thompson who's chairman of homeland security working with the naacp to actually go after some of the incidents that happened on january 6th, along with other prosecutorial offices as well as the president himself speaking out against it. we know that the last administration, the fbi, under director chris wray, raised the alarms about white supremacy and extremist groups being a major terrorist threat. but they did not have the force of the president supporting them
and was thwarted many times in that effort. so, i think this is a turning leaf for us, one to be very clear about what is going on in this country, and then being very vigilant on how to tackle it. >> listen, i know that you were an impeachment manager, but you do other things and you're on other committees when it comes to washington, the work that you do in washington, d.c. so, let's talk about something that's very important to you because the president touted his covid relief package tonight. he said the money needs to be spent now so that the country can come roaring back. as it stands now, democrats are going to have to pass this on their own. is that fine with you? are you okay with that? >> listen, you know, elections have consequences, and fortunate for us one of the consequences is that we are in the majority. would we like to have negotiations in which we can have a bipartisan effort? of course. because history has shown us that those bills that are passed with bipartisan support usually
have much more lasting effort when we're negotiating within -- among ourselves. but we are in desperate times right now. i know the people of the virgin islands, who have relied so heavily on tourism, are really feeling the brunt of the covid pandemic. never mind what's happening to our schools, our small businesses, as well as our health care workers. so, we've got to be aggressive in tackling this. and if that means that democrats have got to take the lead to get that done, then that's what's going to happen. >> he said that we can -- meaning him and lawmakers -- can create 7 million jobs this year. the economy has to be dealt with now. we need unemployment insurance. look at the people in food lines, he said. look at the people being kicked out of their apartments, look at the people missing out on mortgage payments. how much longer can it go on this, well we're going to do it, we're going to do it, we're going to do it? when does the action actually happen, congresswoman?
>> well, you know, speaker pelosi has indicated that she's ready to get something done in the next week. while i was an impeachment manager and working on my presentation before the senate. in between that i was in the conference room in markups with the ways and means kmut tee on agriculture committee. we're doing the work. we're getting the legislation together for it to be brought to the senate and the senate to do its job and bring it to the president's job for signature. we've got to look at knew trugs. we've got to look at health care workers in supporting them as well, as well as questioning the virus in nursing homes and making sure the teachers feel safe and we've been transparent with them so our children can get back to school and back to learning, that there's a place for their children as well as as you said providing that support to small businesses and unemployment insurance all at the same time. that's got to be big. it's got to be bold. and then on top of that, we need
to continue to begin working on the president's plan to build back better. that means infrastructure. i'm part of a new democratic coalition where we're really very focused on infrastructure and economic development to try and support businesses and innovation, which america has always been at the forefront of in this country. >> and also about rebuilding some of the trust in our institutions, which was our institutions were attacked during the last administration. and also some independents. at the town hall, the president said he will never tell his justice department who to investigate, who not to investigate. he's responding to a question about the former president's role in the riot at the capitol. what do you think of that? >> you know, i think that, again, that that is the right attitude. the department of justice, i worked at the department of
justice in the bush administration working for tremendous men, larry thompson, james comey, chris wray and robert mueller. and the justice department needs to be able to do its work. they are the people's justice department and they need to be the attorneys general, the attorney general for the people of the united states, not the private attorney for the president of the united states. so, i'm happy to hear him say that. and you know, as a child of a law enforcement officer, my dad was a new york city police officer for 30 years, my grandfather as well. it's also refreshing to hear him talk about community policing and police officers wanting to be a support to communities. we need to give them the tools to be able to do that, not to continue to make them military operations but to make them support and protect the communities in which they work, whether that's through education, whether that's through programming. you know, i am in favor of ion na presley's bill to get rid of
qualified immunity, which has really been a blanket under which police officers can operate to not be punished against communities, particularly african-american communities. so, i'm happy to hear him talk about the independence of the justice department while at the same time being a protector of those people who need the support of the president and the justice department at the same time. >> well, congresswoman, i enjoyed our conversation. i hope you'll come back and we can talk more policy in the future. get some rest. i've seen you everywhere this week. you've been a very busy person. thank you so much. >> ready to go home tomorrow to the virgin islands, and i welcome you down as well. >> yeah sh send sunshine and warmth back here because we're dealing with a cold spell and the storm around much of the country. >> yes, yes. >> thank you very much. i'll see you soon. be safe. president biden tonight saying by the end of july everybody who wants a vaccine
so breaking news, president joe biden answering questions from americans about the covid pandemic during our cnn town hall tonight, promising that 600 million doses of the vaccines will be available by the end of july and saying that life in america may be back to normal by christmas. a lot to discuss with dr. leana wen, the former baltimore city health commissioner. feels like christmas, thank you so much. we just had a christmas, so it's going to be a while before we get back to normal according to
the president. we heard at this town hall that anyone who wants to know when i can get a vaccine, right, and when are my kids going back to school, did you hear a clear strategy from president biden tonight on . >> his first answer about when it is that every american will be able to have access to a vaccine, he said end of july. i'm sure it's an honest answer based on the information that he has, but i think it must come as a disappointment to a lot of people because we were told by the previous administration that we would have access to the vaccine by the spring. and i think even members of the biden administration have said that there would be access at least by the spring. and so i think i want to we need a better accounting of exactly what's happening with supply because they're all these numbers floating around. i think it's important for all the manufacturers to say here's what we should expect in terms of supply right now, in two weeks, by mid-march, by end of march. having that kind of tracking actually also helps to explain
what the delays might be. it's not about blame, but it's about giving visibility and predictability to the american people and to states that are trying to figure this out too. >> he said by july, so what does this time line mean for reaching herd community? he also mentioned the johnson & johnson vaccine and he said, you know, things could speed up, there could be more or it could take longer. what does this mean for herd immunity with that time line? >> i think there are three different end points we should be talking about. the first end point is when it is that every american is going to be eligible to get the vaccine. so when are we done with the priority categories and when could we get to everyday people who are not elderly, who don't have chronic medical issues. i would hope that's in the spring. the second is the one president joe biden was referring to about july, which is when is it that people can walk into their pharmacy and get access to a vaccine, get the vaccine that
day. maybe that's end of july we're hearing at this point. then i think there's the third end point of herd immunity. that's probably about 80% of americans being vaccinated. i would hope that we can get there by the end of the year, which is probably why president joe biden is saying about christmas. but if we want to reach herd immunity, we need to ramp up vaccinations. we need to get to 2,500,003 million vaccines a day. we can get there but we're not there yet. >> so getting kids back into schools, huge issue. this is what he said about teachers. >> why is it okay to put students and teachers in close proximity to each other with large class sizes and outdated ventila ventilation systems? do you believe all they should be vaccinated before doing so? >> number one, nobody is
suggesting, including the cdc, that you have large classes, congested classes. it's smaller classes, more ventilation, making sure that everybody has masks and is socially distanced, meaning you have less -- fewer students in one room. i think that teachers and the folks who work in the school, the cafeteria workers, should be on the list of preferred to get a vaccination. >> so he said that teachers should move up in the vaccination line, but did you hear an answer on whether vaccinating teachers should be required to reopen schools? >> well, president joe biden didn't say that. and i wish that he did. we have right now 89% of u.s. counties according to a cnn analysis are in the red zone. what the cdc classifies as the highest risk for transmission. many of these schools are already open for in-person instructions. i don't understand why we can't just say if getting our kids back in school is such a key
priority, why it isn't that teachers are prioritized for vaccinations. we're not saying every teacher needs to be vaccinated before any teacher goes back to school, but rather teachers that are already in school that we're asking to come back to school for in-person instruction, they should go to the front of the line. if we're prioritizing our kids, then we should prioritize our teachers and critically the school staff as well, and i think that's something that the biden administration -- they've come out with a very good plan for reopening schools that is based on science and evidence, that's divided according to community transmission and mitigation measures. the one part that's so glaringly missing is the protections that teachers and school staff deserve. >> he discussed racial disparity in getting the vaccine. what did you think of that moment, doctor? >> i thought he did a very good job. and president joe biden's route has really emphasized the issue of equity. i have never heard my administration, really, embed
equity in all of their work, in their metrics, the way they're doing the work. all the efforts, for example, to distribute vaccines through community health centers, through pharmacies, in underserved areas, focusing on equity as a goal as well as a process, i think, is really important. i'm glad that there's attention to this because without specific attention and intention towards equity, we're only going to be exacerbating disparities that have already been unmasked by covid-19. >> dr. wen, thank you for your time. i appreciate it. >> thank you. as president joe biden was speaking to america tonight, his predecessor was attacking a member of his own party, sullen, and unsmiling political hack a direct quote. we'll tell you who he's going after next. 've been to every ci. including little rock and even worcester. and tonight... i'll be eating the chicken quesadilla from...tony's tex mex...in... katy. (doorbell) (giggle) do ya think they bought it?
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so here's our breaking news tonight. president joe biden answering questions from americans in our cnn town hall in milwaukee. the president's first town hall since taking office. the top moments promising that 600 million doses of the coronavirus vaccine will be available by the end of july. and saying that life in america may be back to normal by christmas. as the president of the united states speaks to americans, the former president rages from com exile in florida, attacking mitch mcconnell and attacking any republican who sides with the leader. calling him a dour, sullen, and unsmiling political hack. that as we are learning tonight that the former president's also on the outs with rudy giuliani. we'll tell you why. i want to bring in kaitlan collins, senior political analyst and reporter nia-malika so