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and there was some planning that was associated with that. so this is a very serious issue that hopefully can kind of keep politics out of this as much as possible, and that sort of thing. this was a very serious incident. there were a lot of breakdowns that took place. we're lucky more people weren't seriously injured or killed as a result of this. so this is no place to be trying to put some kind of political spin on what took place. i think most reasonable people would understand to begin with the majority of people that show up for a rally whatever the cause aren't there to really cause damage or insurrection or things like that, but it doesn't mean it didn't take place and it doesn't mean there was a radicalization that took place that really, i think, really caused a lot of this to take place. >> gloria, what do you think? this is also, we should mention, the same senator who questioned
whether this was an armed insurrection because he said, when i think of armed, i think of firearms. just to fact check that, there were arrests that did have to do with firearms but a number of weapons that clearly were not firearms but deadly weapons. >> well, i think it's total rubbish. i think he has a political agenda. he wasn't listening to the people who were actually there trying to fight the insurrectionists. you will also recall johnson wasn't sure this was actually an insurrection. i don't know what he thought it was. did he think it was a walk in the park? and what mr. sund said, he said these people came with equipment and with climbing gear. these are people intent on getting into that capitol one way or another. if you were just going to a trump rally, you could just listen to the former president and whatever he would say, and then go your merry way. there were a lot of people who did that. but the people who invaded the capitol had an agenda and that's what the police were saying
today, and they were saying, look, we weren't prepared. we didn't have enough intelligence. we didn't have enough equipment. we needed the national guard. we didn't get it fast enough. but the one thing they did not say over and over again was that this was not an insurrection. they all agreed, they raised their hands, nodded their heads and said, we all agree. >> and, peter, the former capitol hill police chief revealed he hadn't seen that fbi memo that warned of violence. how does something like that fall through the cracks? >> it shouldn't. there's a term sometimes we use and it's law enforcement's biggest enemy is complacency. or in this day and age, as it was said by the senators most times is nothing should have amounted. the office should not have been
complacent about that memo. a phone call should have been made. i have done that numerous times in my fbi career, to my peers and other commanders i worked with on team leaders. when i saw something that came across my desk or bureau saw something that came across my desk or somebody else's desk that it had to be actioned immediately. that's not done just via hitting send and forget about it. you want to hit send, that's one thing but you need to follow it up with a phone call, did you receive the email i just sent you? please read it and call me back. or i will come to your office and hand deliver it if you didn't get it. there's no excuse for that. that's kind of a failure as well. unfortunately that happens too often when we're living off of devices and media and phones and email on phones that people just send things and they don't necessarily follow up on it. >> charles, i think a lot of people having looked at what happened on january 6th, they said why was capitol police not prepared for this? the former chief answered that
question saying essentially that any civilian law enforcement force would not be prepared for something like this without having the assistance of some other type of agency, whether it's other law enforcement agency or military. what did you think about his answer? >> i mean, you raised a good point there. the one thing that wasn't talked about during this hearing, there was a lot of emphasis on the national guard being activated or not being activated in a timely fashion. but that department has mous in place with other surrounding law enforcement agencies. these are substantial agencies, fairfax county, arlington, montgomery, prince george's, obviously mpd. they are there. they're very well trained and very well equipped. and it's not unusual for them to come into the district. i use them quite a bit, quite frankly, whenever we had large demonstrations in order to provide some assistance. so listen, you can hit a point
where you just get overwhelmed, but i do believe that they were not as prepared as they could have been. i think they got a little smug in terms of, well, you know, this has never happened before. i heard mike singer say, you know, we plan based on probability not possibility. the whole point of tabletops, you have to look at different possibilities to find out how prepared are you should the worse-case scenario take place? obviously, that didn't happen. they're not properly equipped. four platoons, that's about 160 people out of a force of 1,400 that are fully equipped with riot gear. that kind of stuff is just unacceptable, i'm sorry. >> you know, also, i don't think we heard the answer to why that fbi memo, which was a flashing red light, why that was only issued right before? if all of the information was out there on social media, et cetera, why was that so late in
coming, never mind why wasn't it distributed quickly? why didn't they see it at all before january 6th? i mean, that's kind of remarkable to me when you think about it. and also, we didn't really hear that much about the national guard. and why the national guard -- it was so slow in getting the national guard to the capitol. i think that's another chapter of the story that involves high levels in the administration and the vice president, former vice president and former president. i think we have a lot to learn about that. >> yeah, and there are going to be other opportunities, right. this is the first in a series of hearings we expect many, many, many more questions to be answered. gloria, peter, charles as well. really appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> all right. i want to reset for our viewers if you're just joining us now what we're following is breaking news coming off of capitol hill. this is the first senate hearing about the deadly insurrection on january 6th. he today we heard hours of
testimony from the current and former security officials who were in charge that day. >> we will provide you a quick overview why i think it was a coordinated attack. one, these people came specifically with equipment. you bring in climbing gear to a demonstration. you're bringing explosives. you're bringing chemical spray such as what captain mendoza talked about. you're coming in prepared. the fact that the group that attacked our west front 20 minutes -- approximately 20 minutes before the event at the ellipse ended which means they were planning on our agency not being at what they call full strength, watching the other event saying that event is ending, everybody get on post, they may be marching our way, knowing we wouldn't be at full strength. and knowing we were dealing with two pipe bombs that were specifically set at the edge of our perimeter to, i suspect, draw resources away. i think there was a significant coordination with this attack. >> let's talk now with cnn's
whitney wild. she's been tracking this for us. what were the biggest revelations you heard so far today? >> there were so many, a lot of news came out of this. but the most important thing was the confusion about intelligence. basically all three men, paul irving, michael singer and irving sund said the intelligence said there was always a possibility something bad would happen but the possibility wasn't probability which in hindsight was an almost unbelievably thin line. so thin you could hardly see it. what's really striking about that assessment is these are men with decades-long law enforcement experience. paul irving left the secret service as the assistant director and even still, most of the response we heard from these three men was, well, the intelligence didn't tell us there was going to be a battle. they looked at the intelligence and didn't make the assessment that turned out to be true. that was the first thing. the second thing was that we learned today that former u.s.
cp chief steven sund heard about this cra critical fbi memo that warned about a hit on the capitol yesterday, he learned of it yesterday. i cannot stress how unbelievable that timeline is. he said that came from one of the fbi field divisions and went to one of his intelligence units and never made it to him, which raises the question, what would he have done with that piece of intelligence? so there's preparation and response. the last thing about preparation was confusion about what the conversation was about bringing the national guard in ahead of time. steven sund claims in the days before the riot he went to paul irving and michael stenger, basically his two bosses on the capitol police board to say we need an emergency declaration, we need to call in the national guard. however, paul irving said he didn't hear the conversation the same way. he thought this was a casual conversation with he and steven sund in which sund was saying if we need extra people, the
national guard is offering 125 troops, what do you think? and paul irving in the end said, look, i just don't think the intelligence supports this. he said they all walked away saying their plan was very solid. those are, i think, the biggest revelations about how the planning breakdown happened. now we thought about the response that day. the biggest breakdown, most obvious breakdown was when the crisis was happening, they could not get the national guard fast enough. here's what mpd chief robert conti had to say about that, brianna. >> chief sund was pleading for the deployment of the national guard, and in response to that, there was not an immediate yes, the national guard is responding, yes, the national guard is on the way, yes, the national guard are being restaged from traffic posts to respond. the response was more asking about the plan, what was the plan for the national guard? the response was more focused on in addition to the plan, the optics about how this looks with boots on the ground on the
capitol. and my response to that was simply, i was just stunned that i have officers who were out there literally fighting for their lives and, you know, we're kind of going through what seemed like an exercise to really check the boxes. >> i think in the end a big theme here today, brianna, were really a lack of independent thinking and lack of agility. and there's one other thing i want to clear up, members that testified today said that members of congress did not delay the response by the national guard. there have been some rumblings about that. i think there have been a few questions but i want to put that to rest. members of congress did note hnot hold up the ability of the national guard to respond. >> very important to note. whitney wild, thank you very much for that. joining us to talk more about this is former fbi agent peter strzok. i want to start with the critical error whitney mentioned, the missed fbi memo warning of violence.
what is your reaction to that? >> i think it demonstrates a couple of things. the first is in some ways the system did work. my understanding is the norfolk field office of the fbi generated that report. the day they received that information, it was transmitted and received by the joint field task force in the washington field office and that same evening within hours picked up by the capitol police representative and transmitted to the capitol police. there's where the breakdown starts to occur. i'm very interested to hear the fbi side of the story next week, they along with dhs and dod will be in front of the senate and i'm very interested, of course, you have a lot of different people presenting their perception of what occurred. but it isn't simply enough to send an email. in this day and age, if there's something significant, one, you have to realize it's significant and analysts have to actually pick out that signal amongst all of the noise and raise that up the chain so you're affirmatively pushing that information. . i don't know that that occurred. clearly chief sund did not receive it or he says he didn't receive it. so that indicates at some point information didn't do what it
should. brianna, i think it's important to step back, everybody's focused on this one memo. as we're looking at all of the charges the department of justice is bringing in court, it's clear there are a number of conspiracies. and why that's important is these represent groups of people who were planning and coordinating their activities in add advantage of ever arriving at the capitol. that's the sort of information that investigatively is out there and was available and the question is whether or not that was seen, whether or not that was collected. if it was, why that didn't get disseminated and if it wasn't, why not? and those were the hard questions i know are being asked right now in the federal law enforcement intelligence community. >> do you think that the accurate threat picture is being communicated in these hearings? what i mean by that is we heard a lot about white supremacists present in this group. but we also know about other groups that were involved, oath keepers, a lot of
anti-government extremists. do you think that congress, the people asking the questions and the people answering them, are giving a complete picture of the threat that they're facing? >> i don't think it's come out yet in these hearings and i think part of the reason why is you're talking to the people who were engaged in the actual incident itself. the folks, whether the sergeants at arms or the capitol police chief or the metropolitan police chief who are responsible for the immediate on-the-ground protection and securing the capitol. i think when you look to next week, that's when you start getting into a broader national picture. i heard fbi director wray in prior testimony talk at length very articulately about the threat that's posed by domestic terrorism and specifically from the right wing, white nationalists, from other violent members of those groups. so the question is, clearly, this is something that the head of the fbi has been arb ticulatg
as a threat. the question is what was or wasn't known or was or wasn't communicated leading up to the insurrection on the 6th? >> you heard p, peter, earlier republican senator ron johnson pushing baseless trump conspiracy theories about fake trump supporters causing this trouble. it's fake information and at this incredible will i high level of government. how much of a threat is that when it comes to what our country is facing, what the fbi is facing as it's trying to get to the truth here? >> it's horrible. look, it's tremendously damaging when you have a united states senator, who frankly has a history of conspiracy theories going back years for years, whether it's ukraine or russia and now domestic terrorism that took place on the 6th, who is advancing a knowingly false narrative about what occurred. and the reason that's an issue is that there's still some confusion out there in the public about what the events of january the 6th represented. let's be very clear about it, what happened with the with people who stormed congress on
the 6th was an attempt to interrupt the certification and peaceful transfer of power in the united states by people who supported donald trump. when you get a united states senator leading his -- lending his moral authority to this nonsense, the first thing we immediate to be doing is coming together as a nation and understanding exactly what happens and saying this is unacceptable. as long as you have united states senators and, frankly, as long as you have a prior president of the united states encouraging certain followers to maintain this bogus narrative that it was an illegitimate election, it's a tremendous problem and it's going to prevent us from addressing the threat and the way we need to. >> peter strzok, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. next -- a tense hearing for another of president biden's cabinet pick as republicans grill the first native american nominee of interior. plus, leaders of vaccine makers are testifying and making big promises as demand is
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now you're in control. as demand for the coronavirus vaccine vastly outpaces supply, there's big promises that are coming from capitol hill. leaders from the nation's top five vaccine makers ensuring members today their companies will meet supply commitments to the u.s. on time. that is 300 million doses each from pfizer, moderna and astrazeneca and 100 million each from johnson & johnson and novavax. >> we clearly saw frequency raw materials and we anticipate we will be on track to deliver
those doses before july. >> we do believe we are on track to meet the deadlines. >> yes, we are on track to deliver 100 million by the end of july, yes. >> yes, wither on track to deliver 300 million doses. >> but not immediately, it will take some time? >> we are dependent upon eua, obviously, but prepared by the end of june to present 100 million doses. >> the vaccine executives agree it could mean there may be a surplus of vaccine in the u.s. by late summer. joining me now, epidemiologist and infectious disease specialist dr. celine gounder. so the vaccines may be there but how is the u.s. doing when it comes to getting the vaccine and putting them in arms? >> i think that's a great point, brianna. we had gotten to over 1.5 million doses in arms before the bad weather of the last week and things have slowed down a little bit. but 1.5 million doses is not
nearly what the capacity is going to be. with this ramp-up in production, pfizer and moderna are currently looking at producing 4 million doses a day over the course of march and beyond. so we really need to be trying to aim our capacity to get shots on arms to be that equivalent level of about 4 million doses per day. >> so, i mean, look, i think no one right now wants to worry about a surplus but it sounds like something that's something we may be talking about in the summer. if you add up all of the totals the companies committed, it's more than a billion doses. what would happen to the surplus? would this go to other countries? >> yeah, i think that's likely what we would be doing, donating the extra doses to other countries who have not been able to purchase it. and this is not just a humanitarian donation. we know that as long as the virus is circulating in other parts of the world that has the potential to mutate for new
variants to emerge, and for more virus to be seeded back home here in the united states. so it really makes sense for us from a very selfish perspective as well to donate extra doses we have to help control the disease outside of the u.s. >> yeah, we certainly saw, of course, how that is something that affects the u.s. as well. i want to ask you, johnson & johnson said at the hearing as soon as it receives emergency use authorization, it's going to send out 4 million doses immediately. how should states be handling people who maybe prefer to have other vaccines because pfizer and moderna have higher percentages of efficacy? >> i think that's really important to understand what we mean by efficacy. so is it efficacy effectiveness in preventing severe disease, hospitalization and death? all of the vaccines are equivalent for that. what you're really talking about is do some of the vaccines help prevent a milder case of covid? so cough and sniffles. and that's not why we vaccinate.
what i would advise is really whatever vaccine you can get your hands on first is the vaccine you should get. >> that's a very good point. dr. gounder, thank you for being with us. still ahead -- a florida community is outramed over the discovery of a so-called vip list for a pop-up vaccine site. plus, three of president biden's cabinet nominees are in the hot seat and their chances of surviving the confirmation process, they're facing obstacles. we made usaa insurance for members like martin. an air force veteran made of doing what's right, not what's easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. that's how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way martin's family needs it with hassle-free claims,
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just over a month into his presidency and three of joe biden's cabinet nominees are facing a bumpy and maybe even doomed ride to con officialation. today two of those nominees faced a grilling on capitol hill. republicans are raising doubts about xavier becerra, biden's pick for health and human services secretary. criti critics say xavier becerra doesn't have the background in health care. and deb haaland is under growing scrutiny. and neera tanden, biden's pick of leading the office of management and budget is in deep peril after democratic senator joe manchin said he would not support her and a string of moderate republicans also said
they couldn't support her. deb haaland, the new mexican congresswoman, is also an historic pick. she would be the first native american cabinet member if confirmed. but today she faced tough questions about her support for clean energy and how her harms can hurt the gas and oil industry. she also came under fire for her past criticism of republicans. >> just a couple of months ago you tweeted republicans don't believe in science. pretty broad statement that you made there. and this was -- this was in october of 2020. so not too long ago. now, we're also republicans. do you think as medical doctors, we don't believe in science? how do you stand by this statement? >> senator, i -- yes, if you're a doctor, i would assume that you believe in science. >> do you personally support a ban on fracking and no new p pipelines? >> senator, if i'm confirmed as
secretary, i would be serving at the pleasure of the president and it would be his agenda i move forward. >> cnn's kristen holmes is with us now. deb haaland will be back for what will be another grilling tomorrow. how is her confirmation looking? >> that's right, brianna. just to keep in mind here there's no surprise this got a little bit heated. even before she took the chair, i heard from white house officials as well as democrats, who said this is going to get tense. keep in mind, if she becomes interior secretary, if she is confirmed, she would have a large role in president biden's agenda on climate. this is a sprawling agenda that we already heard republicans express opposition to. so even before she set up for her hearing, we were hearing republicans calling her views extremist and radical. but that gets to the question here, can she actually get confirmed? well, one person we're watching, and i know we said this a lot lately and probably going to be saying it down the road for the next year is joe manchin. he's the chairman of the committee she was in front of today and he hasn't said how
he's going to vote when it comes to haaland yet. in fact, in past interviews he's indicated their agendas don't really line up. another person we've been watching a lot across all of these different nomination hearings is mitt romney. romney came out and expressed a lot of concern about haaland, actually looping her in with neera tanden, who he already said he's going to vote against. a couple things we're watching, a couple people, just to see exactly how this will look. but, be again, white house officials, they believed that this was going to get tense and this could have some hiccups along the way. one thing i want to point out, and you mentioned the historic nature of her nomination. as interior secretary you oversee national resources, public lands and indian affairs. having a native american in that seat is something that indigenous leaders have been fighting for, for years. so this would be a major victory on that front if she is
confirmed. >> certainly will be. we'll be watching. thank you very much, kristen holmes. and as support for neera tanden, joe biden's pick to lead the off the budget, teeters on the brink of attacks. known for mean tweets while giving white men a pass for the same behavior. not only are republicans criticizing her tweets but democratic senator joe manchin, a crucial swing vote in the evenly split senate, opposes her confirmation over history of inflammatory tweets. today manchin dismissed accusations his concerns about neera tanden are sexist. >> there's been some complaints that your opposition to neera tanden is sexist. >> what do you make of that? >> manchin also said he has doubts about the confirmation of deb haaland. that sparked a fiery response from democratic congresswoman alexandria oscasio-cortez who tweeted jeff sessions was so openly racist, even reagan
couldn't appoint him. manchin voted to confirm him. sessions then targeted immigrant children for wide scale human rights abuses for family separation and yet the first native woman to be cabinet secretary is where manchin finds unnese. with me now is political commentator s.e. cupp and kear stir powers, senior analyst and columnist for "usa today." i have been waiting for this segment, you guys. i'm so curious what you have to say about this. look, both of these nominees are women of color. . yesterday -- yesterday we actually played for our viewers some of the tweets that were told to neera tanden that were said during her confirmation hearing. they were not pretty. some of the things she said, one that stuck out to me, is calling mitch mcconnell voldemort and moscow mitch. and she had many, many tweets. but when you look at who manchin has confirmed, it's odd this is the standard for him, i think.
and i just really wonder what you guys think about sort of what is appropriate for confirming someone or dismissing them on this, and if there is a double standard? >> i think obviously there is a double standard. you look at other people who have been confirmed, like rick crennel, for example, who was confirmed to be the ambassador to germany, something usually an ambassador requires like a certain temperament, right, for diplomacy and he is on twitter doing, you know, mean tweets up the wazoo. so if that's okay, then what's the problem with neera? i think neera should be judged on her experience and she's a very experienced person. she has a lot of experience working in the government. she was, you know, in the obama white house. she used to work on hillary clinton's staff. she obviously ran the center for american progress. the so i think that should be the standard that she's held to.
and i think there's no -- there really isn't an explanation. like i tried to think of one but you cannot raise her temperament as it's been raised based on her tweets. if you confirmed rick crennel, those two things just don't add up. >> yes, temperament should be a police of the discussion here, but it wasn't it other cases. >> i don't think that means it shouldn't be here, right? aren't we supposed to be trying to get away from what we have done in the past and mistakes we've made in the past? i think temperament absolutely can be and should be part of this, but it's not just the tweets. believe me, listen, i am the first to acknowledge the sexism and racism and hypocrisy inside the gop. and just how hip ypocritical th sounds to be so outraged over her tweets. but there are plenty of substantive concerns about neera
tanden's work at cap. and kirsten points out there were complaints of ethics violations and conflicts of interest, problems i will tell you progressives are worried about with the neera tanden pick. so i don't know why republicans are fixated open the tweets when there are actually i think substantive criticisms. and where deb haaland is concerned, i think has e as kristen holmes said, having a native american in that role would be critically important, however, it should not be surprising that republicans are going to push back on someone so far to the left on environmental issues, who would be nominated to that post. again, i am quick to see the sexist and racism, especially inside the gop. i think these just happen to be two people that deserve some scrutiny for all kinds of reasons. and i will just point out that
today linda thomas-greenfield, an african-american woman who's incredibly experienced, was confirmed as the u.s. ambassador to the u.s. >> i have a question for you, kirsten, about neera tanden but i have one i want to follow up with s.e. on about deb haaland. she was asked in that hearing about tweeting that republicans are against science. and you could tell she was trying to kind of step around that. but having looked at some of what republicans say about climate change, what many republicans have either kind of just gone along with, that they haven't in a full-throated way said about coronavirus, what did you think of that moment, s.e.? >> honestly, i felt like it's so overblown. and it's really hard to listen to after what we just sat through with donald trump. so if people like s.e., who criticized donald trump on facebook, i will listen to that.
but i will not listen to what people who enabled him the last four years and continue to enable him, and those are the republicans in congress. and even joe manchin enabled him as well. so you do have to have one standard, and you can't suddenly just decide that you have a standard for these women of color that you don't ever hold anybody else to. so that's the problem. and so, yes, it would be great if we could have a world where everybody is always civil and they don't say harsh things. you know, that's not politics. i'm sorry, men are always saying harsh things and nothing happens to them. so why are women held to this? i have been looking at what neera said, it's like okay, what did she say about ted cruz? that he has left heart than a vampire. i mean -- and? i don't understand. these are people who feel -- >> and she said something about
bernie sanders too, to be clear. but s.e., what do you say to kirsten's point? >> i agree it's preposterous the men of the gop are feigning outrage over the tweets of neera tanden, which is why i said they should be looking at more substantive criticism of her leadership at cap, the way progressives are. but i don't think that means we sort of lowered the bar. and, say, well, they did it so who cares? i really do think, especially i think joe biden agrees, we should be efforting at better. and, again, the criticism of deb haaland is not the same as the criticism of neera, but i just, again, i get the frustration that kirsten is feeling and, believe me, i feel the same
frustration. but i think it's not out of bounds to talk about a woman's temperament when her temperament has been very publicly problematic. i think we shouldn't just ignore it. >> can i add one thing to that quickly? >> very quickly. >> we do need to remember, first of all, neera's temperament is fine. maybe on twitter it's not. he or she who is not bad on twitter, cast the first stone. >> it's not just on twitter. she's kind of a bully in general. >> i have serious breaking news. it's great to see you, thank you. this is our breaking news. tiger woods has been involved in a serious car crash. as you can see here, the l.a. sheriff says tiger woods was involved in a single vehicle rollover traffic collision, and had to be extricated with the jaws of life. this is according to the los angeles county sheriff's department in a statement they just put out. the vehicle rolled over this morning, it was on the border of
rolling hills estates in rancho palace verdes. ment they said his vehicle was traveling northbound at hawthorne boulevard when it crashed. right now woods is at the hospital, he was transported to a local hospital for his injuries. i want to bring in christine brennan on the phone. christine, we don't know, we are still waiting for details on this. it's hard to look at the pictures we are seeing of this vehicle and the condition it's in knowing he was pinned in there and had to be extricated from the jaws of life without having serious worry for the prognosis of tiger woods. ment are you hearing anything? >> brianna, at this point i'm just talking to a few sources. i have heard nothing yet. obviously, this is, as you said, the visuals here, the pictures are horrifying. this is tiger woods. he's 45 years old. he is one of the biggest and best names known in sports and really in our culture.
and he's been a part of our culture now since the late 1990s. and so when you say the name tiger woods, everyone knows who he is. everyone knows his history. he would the masters less than two years ago in an amazing comeback. of late he had back surgery once again. he's had a lot of injuries, as you probably know. so he hasn't been playing golf. he was in l.a. for a tournament where he actually appeared on television but did not play on the tournament, pga tournament over the last few days. so to see this is just horrifying. when you hear the jaws of life, that he had to be extricated, brianna, with the jaws of life, all of a sudden you think of the athlete and this incredibly powerful man, and then you picture the concern and the fallibility of this person and is he okay? forget golf right now. you start thinking, is this man okay? how severely injured is he?
and what does the future hold? certainly, everyone would be thinking of tiger and his family and son and daughter at this moment and very concerned for his welfare. >> so i just want to reiterate to our viewers what they're looking at now. this is aerial pictures of the area where tiger woods was involved in a single vehicle accident. and according to the l.a. county sheriff's department, he was traveling in this vehicle, this is a residential area of southern california. he was traveling, you could see there's also a lot of sort of a natural environment right there off the road. and this was a single vehicle he was traveling in and it rolled over. if you're familiar with the area, it's hawthorne boulevard. he was going northbound on it near what is black horse road. at this point in time, christine, we know he's been extricated. you can see the car is in very bad shape.
law enforcement had to use the -- or medics had to use the jaws of life to get him out. and as you mentioned, he has -- he did have this comeback here somewhat recently. what has he been dealing with in the last several years? >> brianna, it was back in 2017 when i think people might remember the horrifying dui picture, and the dashboard footage from the police. they found him asleep in his car, this was in florida. and he lives in florida. and he had trouble walking, had trouble following directions. and at that point he had painkillers, other drugs, in his body when the toxicology report came out back in 2017. he underwent rehab and clearly he lot his life back together. he has had so much pain as, i think again, a lot of people
know who followed him, the last ten years or so, he's had so many surgeries, back fusion, neck fusion, leg problems, that he's taken painkillers and he described that as a situation that led to that 2017 incident with the dui arrest in florida. there's no evidence right now, obviously, that what i just mentioned has anything to do with what we're seeing on the screen. but that was in his life and that was, what, four, five years ago. and so he had come back, as we all know, because he had that magnificent victory in the masters, something that many of us thought he would never achieve again. norm major win in golf. and he did that less than two years ago. it was really one of the crowning achievements, not only of his career but of any athlete's career, to be able to come back from so much and have another major win at the golf course, tournament he loves the most. the masters. so that is what he did. and we know he came back from the dui in florida.
now to see this, it's, again, i have covered him since the '90s. it's scary, horrifying, incredibly concerning and first and foremost, you think of tiger, as i said and his family, and you just hope he's okay. >> and i just want to let our viewers know maybe who have just tuned in, tiger woods has been in a car crash. this is a single vehicle accident. it was a serious accidents, as you can see. he was according to the sheriff's department extricated by the jaws of life. l.a. county fire -- and this is a new detail we just learned, they say he has injuries that are moderate to critical. so these are injuries that are moderate to critical, christine, which tells us something. we don't know exactly what the injuries are. but this is serious. you can tell by the accident it's serious but now we're getting confirmation from l.a. county fire. he's in the hospital with injuries that are moderate to critical. we're still awaiting details on exactly what that is. i also just want to add here,
christine, according to l.a. county sheriff's department, this obviously occurred this morning. it occurred at 7:12 a.m. approximately west coast time. so this happened a few hours ago. and l.a. sheriffs responded to this, single vehicle rollover traffic collision on this road hawthorne boulevard, where he was traveling northbound, between the rolling hills estates and rancho palace verdes. he was going northbound. he was nearby blackhorse road when this crashed, and the vehicle, of course, sustained major damage here as you can see. he, according to the sheriff's department, was the sole occupant of the car when it rolled over here this morning in southern california. you mentioned, christine, some of the things that he has dealt with. we do not know, obviously, if that is connected, of course, to anything that we are seeing
today. but this is -- i will tell you myself, having been a golfer as a young person in southern california, tiger woods is someone who is just larger than life, always has been. even was, you know, when >> everyone knew that he was going to come on to the scene like he did. he's won so many majors, such a big name, he's the person that if you go to -- if you go to a tournament that he's playing in and you follow someone -- this is where the crowd goes. they are going to gravitate towards tiger woods. he's just a huge draw, and right now his injuries being moderate to critical, this is something that, you know, the world is going to be watching to see what -- what shape is he in at this point? >> oh, absolutely, brianna. we cannot overstate how big a deal this is. tiger woods, there's a generation or two of young fans and young people around the world, not just in the united
states, who have -- who have known him or a first-name basis, tiger. they cheer for him and watch him win tournament after tournament and major after major. they note things he's gone through, the hard times, the difficulties as we've described. again, i haven't even mentions, of c of course, the traffic accident that was at the end of the driveway when he ran into a fire hydrant and a tree that triggered a personal scandal, the likes of which we've never seen before in 2009 and then he came back in 2010 and has had a rise up and down, as you said. a dui in florida back in 2017 and now, of course, this news, this very, very difficult news today about tiger. and i think what we can say is he's a man. he's a risk-taker. we've seen it on the golf core. he's one of the most talented athletes in any sport that we've ever seen frankly, and one of the greatest names in sports history, not just golf but any
sport, amend as he described it himself. he was a risk-taker. it's gotten him into trouble in his personal life. that doesn't mean -- that doesn't tell us what happened. we don't know. obviously we'll find out all of these details and how this -- this traffic accident occurred, but in the meantime, he has lived a life of one's dreams, but he's also lived a life of risk-taking and mistakes, and, well, obviously this is another part of the story, and, again, i keep saying it, but we certainly hope that he's okay and the golf part of tiger's life right now, brianna, is almost secondary. in fact, it is secondary to how is he? is he going to be okay? he's a dad. he has two kids. obviously he's a role model and a hero to millions, and that's what i think many of us are thinking about right now. >> certainly. you know, golf is the way that people have become invested in his life and have come to know him and have come to see his kids who have been visible, of course, on the golf course when
he's competing. look, i want to figure out maybe part of the medical piece here so let's bring in dr. jorge rodriguez to talk about this. we don't know much, doctor. we know that he's suffered moderate to critical injuries and that he had to be pulled from his car using the jaws of life. moderate to critical injuries. maybe you could speak to -- i mean, look, we do not know what is happening here, but in a situation like this, in a car wreck like this, what kinds of injuries might we be talking about? >> well, first of all, from what i heard about where this occurred in the palos verdes estates area. it's a hilly terrain. a rolling car like that could have suffered many, many rollovers and many crashings and things of that nature. the fact that he got removed from the jaw of life tell you he was very accordioned into that. some things will be obvious. the fact that they were so general of what he could be
having from moderate to critical tells you they may not know exactly and some of the things that could be happening right now are neurological injuries. did his brain get injured? does he have a hematoma, a subdurable which means is there blood accumulating in that area? that is something that may not be immediately obvious and something that they would have to have mris for to see, and another responsibility that did he puncture his lung from fractures? does he have multiple fractures? so all of these things could be possible at this point. >> so, at this point in time we know in this -- i do want to say a few details that we've learned now. he was taken to harvard ucla medical center, and fire crews were dispatched to this crush at 7:22 a.m. that was 10:22 a.m. so this was -- this wasn't -- that was 10:22 a.m. our time so this was a few hours ago.
at this point in time could there still be testing that he is undergoing, that medical experts, are you know, will need to determine exactly what they are facing. it sounds like you're saying they may not have a complete picture of what a they are dealing with? it's been five hours now since it happened. let's say it took them an hour to get him to ucla harbor. i think by now they should have a pretty clear idea as to the degree of the severity. i mean, i'm sure they evaluated him in the emergency room, they took immediate x-rays to see if there was anything wrong with the lungs, and i'm sure they immediately put him into a cat scan or mri to see what damage they may be going. we may not know the whole story, because they may not be ready to tell the public exactly what's going on, but right now i'm assuming he's been in the hospital for at least three hours. they have a pretty good idea the extent of his injury. the only thing that they may be waiting for is some head
injuries. you have to watch for at least 24 hours because the blood accumulation after a trauma happens very slowly, and that may not be apparent for a while, but i think right now they have a pretty good idea as to what's going on. >> yeah, and certainly i just want to reiterate we at this point there's so many unanswered questions. all we know at this point for sure is that he suffered moderate to critical injuries after he was pulled from his car, so obviously all of these things doctors have been looking at him for hopefully will be getting new details here in the short-term. i do want to bring in alex field. alex, tell us about what we know about what tiger woods has been doing here in the last few days or weeks. >> you know, you can't talk about tiger woods without talking about his incredible ability to come back. he's been beset by so many challenges, not to mention all the successes over the course of his career, but so many physical challenges. he's had five back operations. we know that he's been recovering from a procedure earlier this year and his eyes
have been focused squarely on golf as always. we was talking just a couple of daves ago about his hopes to be able to play in the masters in april, talking about the fact that he's still working to recover, still feeling a bit stiff but in the gym doing the rehab, doing the work. when asked if he thought he'd make it all the way to the masters this year he said god, i hope so. something he seemed fully committed to doing that physical work to get there. you saw the major comeback in 2019. you know this is somebody dedicated to putting in that effort who has his eyes really trained on that goal. again, we know so little about his condition right now. really all we know for sure is the condition that you see that that car is in, serious damage to the car. we know that tiger was pulled out by the jaws of life but really waiting now to hear any of the details about what he might be physically suffering right now. you know, the great point was made earlier that golf is secondary. that is certainly the truth
right now. what's important is his recovery, his family, his fans all over the world who are pulling for him trying to find out if this is a serious injury or something he could easily recover from. second, of course, though is the golf and we are waiting to find out how those injuries will affect him. his back has been the issue that has plagued him for so many years now, something he's been working so diligently to recover from, to strengthen and to work on. >> yeah, definitely, alex. andy scholes from cnn sports. i want to bring you into the conversation here, and i just want to let our viewers know just some of the details, limited details that we know at this point. he's suffered moderate to critical injuries. he was in this -- he was the sole occupant in this vehicle, and it rolled over there this morning there in california. i have a pit in my stomach, andy scholes. i'm sure that people all over and golf fans especially who have been following his career for so long feel very similarly.
what are your thoughts right now? >> brianna, you know, stunned i guess but not entirely surprised by, you know, what we're seeing here. you know, tiger back in 2017 was found by police, pulled over the side of the road, you know, asleep in his car. you know, he had said he had taken a lot of painkillers at that tame because we all know tiger has undergone a lot of surgeries over the years, an pain kill verse become a part of his life. you know, i interviewed him after he won the 2019 masters, you know. it was one of the greatest comebacks in sports history if not the greatest, and after i interviewed him, you know, he struggled to get up out of that chair. you know, playing four rounds of competitive golf was very tough for tiger woods this late in his career. you know, he's in the ninth inning of his career at this point. 45 years old. we're all hoping that he was going to be able to come back from this fifth back surgery and compete for the masters in april and tiger over the weekend at his golf tournament, the genesis tournament, he said, god, i hope so, that i'm able to play in that tournament because it's one
of the favorite tournaments of the year. you know, seeing the images of this crash, brianna, it just -- like you said, it puts a terrible feeling in your stomach. you hope he's okay. struggling to come back from the injuries he already had, and if he's suffered more injuries from this crash we could be looking at the end of tiger woods' career. here's just to hoping he's okay. >> right now we're hoping he's okay. andy, thank you so much for that. we did just get some information, i should say, from tiger woods' agent. i'm going to hand off now to brooke baldwin so that she can pick up the news from here as we're covering right now. tiger woods in a car crash are, sole occupant in a vehicle that rolled over and was removed by the jaws of life. he is right now suffering moderate to critical injuries. he's in the hospital. we're awaiting more details. our coverage will continue