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so is it the party of lincoln or the party of trump? john berman here in for anderson and that's the question today again after a number of republicans twisted themselves into pretzels to show their one term, twice impeached president. it's coming in the runup to his speech this weekend at the conference in florida and coming as a slew of hearings get to the bottom of how the events leading up to january 6th happened. but for some republicans even asking the question pings the tuning fork towards some truly weird stuff. take senator ron johnson. late today, he upped the ante on this alternative reality account of the attack which he read into the congressional record yesterday. >> he said that the mood of the crowd was positive and festive, many of the marchers were overweight, just plain tired or frail. traits not attributed to the riot-prone.
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a very few didn't share the friendly demeanor of the majority. fake trump protesters and disciplined uniform column of attackers. these are the people that probably planned this. >> so, does this crew look, to borrow a few words, positive or festive? jovial work for you? earnest? do i hear earnest? this whole thing is ridiculous. but when this guy is in for a penny, he's in for a pound -- or a pile. when asked offcamera whether he had any regrets about saying that, listen to his reply. >> absolutely not. >> why not? >> it's an eyewitness account for pretty knowledgeable trained observers. have you read it? >> are you trying -- >> have you read it? >> i watched your comments. >> read the article and you can ask me questions about it. >> i mean, you'd do it again? >> absolutely. we need the full perspective. >> full perspective. for johnson, the full
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perspective apparently includes not just the real perspective, the one that happened but the fantasy bunk revisionist perspective. that makes it full. and he is full of something. a senator known for spreading misinformation and even suspected russian disinformation about the election before, during and after the fact, but as rich as that sounds, it's nothing new. senator johnson showed sides a long time ago. so did house minority leader kevin mccarthy. he signed onto the attempt to overturn the vote, but then for one brief moment, broke ranks. >> the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress by mob rioters. he should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. >> so, not long after that, though, he was at mar-a-lago kissing the ring, and ever since, he's been all onboard, which among republicans is the majority view. but not the only view. listen to a moment this morning
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when he and the number three house republican were asked whether the man from mar-a-lago should speak at cpac. >> yes, he should. >> congresswoman cheney? >> that's up to cpac. i've been clear about my views about president trump and the extent to which january 6th -- i don't believe that he should be playing a role in the future of the party or our country. >> on that high note. >> so, congresswoman cheney voted for impeachment and has been sense sured by the party, as have republican senators who voted to convict, but it increasingly seems the true test of republican loyalty is their willingness to embrace or tolerate falsehoods, fantasies and alternative facts in connection with it. here's republican senator roy blunt today when asked whether or not he sees merit in senator johnson's performance yesterday.
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>> i wouldn't say there is not a merit to what other senators want to bring to the table and obviously, he was quoting somebody else that he thought was a significant addition to the discussion. i think it's dramatically different than virtually anything else you're going to hear, but it's certainly not harmful for senator johnson to have his time on the committee to present the information he thinks need to be presented. >> to be absolutely clear, the account senator johnson presents bears no resemblance to what happened and whether or not senator johnson knows it, senator blunt likely does. as they say in "spinal tap," it's not his job to be as confused as nigel. and it has global impact. 89% of republicans in a recent quinnipiac poll said the former president is not responsible for inciting violence at the capitol. which gives republicans strong incentive for letting him off the hook even mike pence. who had to be hustled out of the senate along with members of his family just steps ahead of
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people that wanted to hang him. even he is all in with the man who attacked him on twitter at just about the very moment you're seeing. cnn has learned that pence told a group of conservative lawmakers yesterday that he maintains a close, personal friendship with the man and harbors no ill will toward him. that's according to one republican congressman at the meeting. it's a political love story and love apparently means never having to say you're mad at the people that people wanted you hanged. or maybe being too scared to say it because you want a future in his party. it's a calculcalculation. and that math may work for a time. >> it might help his poll numbers in the party, but one other number to keep in mind -- 100. the mob got within 100 feet of mike pence at the capitol. the mob sent by the former president. 100 feet. the risk he takes is maybe next time they get closer. plenty to talk about with cnn political analyst maggie haberman, also amanda carpenter, cnn political commentator.
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and maggie, when you hear senator johnson peddling these lies and conspiracies, revising history before our eyes, what does it tell you about the grip that the former president still has on members of his own party? >> john, what it tells me is that grip remains very strong as you know, it remains very strong because the voters of the party are still very aligned with former president trump. and they are being told that president trump is not responsible, they're being told by their elected officials, they're being told by republican leaders in washington. not all of them, but many of them, and it becomes a self-fulfilling cycle, where president trump ends up -- former president trump ends up looking stronger. whether that grip remains, i don't know. i think it's going to be very hard still for former president trump to get the kind of attention that he got before, and he doesn't have his favorite weapon of twitter anymore. as long as he remains this force
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and unwilling to see the stage, i think you are going to continue to see things like we saw with senator johnson this week. >> so, we see this skchism about what his role should be in the party. what's your reporting on what he wants his role to be going forward and what he might say about it on sunday? >> so, what we expect him to say on sunday at his cpac speech which is essentially a cattle call he's joining with a bunch of other potential 2024 hopefuls will be partly focused on policy and immigration policy in particular. there's a very sharp contrast between what he did and what president biden is undoing of what former president trump did in the area of immigration policy. look, as you know, what they write up for former president trump to put on screen for him to read and what he actually says is often very different. but what he wants is to remain the formidable front-runner for 2024 and he is hoping to come away being seen that way after he leaves this stage, which is essentially the first outing for any potential 2024 republican
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candidate of the coming cycle. >> first event of the 2024 presidential campaign in many ways. amanda, congresswoman cheney, she was asked about trump speaking at cpac. there were 100 ways to answer that question that weren't, i think, as bold or direct as she did. particularly after kevin mccarthy said yes, he thought the former president should speak there. is anyone listening to her in the party? does she add at all to her coalition with something like that? >> listen, it's no secret that the republican party is an extremely hostile almost inhospitable place for anyone who criticizes donald trump. liz cheney knows that. but she wants to have this debate. i mean, she was deliberately bold about that question in front of kevin mccarthy for a reason. pause there are so many people trying to shut down any dissenting republican voices and she's saying, right there, loud and clear, i don't think he should have a voice in the
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party. now, to your question, do i think she's going to be adding to her ranks? i doubt it. i don't know how a trump critical republican can function in this party, and people like liz cheney need to consider their options, which i think can be healthy, because she's going to have to develop her own fundraising networks, her own new and different coalition that doesn't look like the cpac audience. it's going to be difficult, okay, for people like her and adam kinzinger and others but they're trying. there is a fight there. it's showing that they don't want to surrender to trumpism. there may be no civil war but they are itching for a fight. >> even i framed it like this at the beginning of the show, is it the party of lincoln or the party of trump and people say there's a battle within the party. i'm not sure there is. >> listen, rick scott who is the florida senator who is chairman of the national republican senate committee sent a memo last night saying the republican civil war has been canceled.
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right? they want this forced unification behind trump and to just shut up and move on and not talk about the insurrection, not do an investigation, because they don't want to talk about it. anti-trump speech will not be tolerated, which is why people who care about stopping this from happening again have to find a different way to work within the party, by developing a new coalition, which will be hard work, but could be very productive in the end. >> so, maggie, we learned and you've got reporting on this, also, that mike pence told republicans he maintains a close personal friendship with the former president and harbors no ill will toward him. that's rich, given everything that mike pence went through leading up to and during the insurrection and then leading up to and during the inauguration. what does mike pence want to get out of this? >> look, i can't speak for what's in mike pence's heart for donald trump, but we know what he went through on january 6th
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and we know what then president trump tweeted about him when he was in the middle of that mob attack at the capitol. what mike pence wants is a future in the republican party. he spent four years enduring a lot, as one of donald trump's closest advisers, as one of the people who was his main defender and explainer with certain people on capitol hill, among others in the republican party. so, i think what he wants is to be able to be president some day, if donald trump decides to run in 2024, that's going to be really hard for mike pence and i think he doesn't want to have his future completely torn apart, as you say, for anybody who wants a future in the republican party. that road right now goes through donald trump. whether it always will is an open question, whether it even will after 2022 in the midterm cycles is an open question, but right now, donald trump has shown absolutely no willingness to get off the stage and as long as he's there, it's going to be hard for someone like mike pence. >> so, amanda, senator mitt romney in an interview said that trump, quote, has, by far, the largest voice and a big impact
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on my party and if the former president were to run in 2024, mitt romney says he's pretty sure he would win the nomination. do you agree with mitt romney and what does it tell you that mitt romney's saying that? >> i think if the primary were held today, this is no doubt who would oppose donald trump in this environment. it gets to the point about the strategic silence of mike pence. and i do think mike pence would like to be president. realistically, he probably never will, but what he does know is that if he keeps his mouth shut, the mob that came after him on january 6th won't come after him again. he will have a safe, comfortable life in the warm bath of the conservative movement at think tanks and conservative media, where they will never ask him a tough question about the events that he witnessed that led up to the insurrection and what it felt like to become a victim of it. he has a safe, comfortable life if he just keeps his mouth shut and waves the flag for trump.
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that's what he's angling for. anything after that, gravy. >> that's something. >> maggie, last time we spoke and i can't remember if it was this morning or last night or yesterday morning, that's how things are at this point, but you told me that the former president has been talking a lot about 2024 lately. what's the nature of that conversation and also, what's the intersection of that conversation and the focus on the criminal investigation surrounding him? >> it's a great question, john. look, it's hard to know what goes into donald trump's calculations, but certainly, he believes, according to a number of his advisers, that the more prom nebt he is, the more he appears to be in the political arena, the more he can paint investigations into him as political. we know there are a number of investigations that he is facing, his company is facing. he's worried about investigations into his children. the manhattan district attorney's office is looking into his business practices and
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taxes. all of that is on his mind and the general question of relevance with him, which we know he craves. he's been clear with people he wants to be seriously seen as a 2024 contender and more open about it with some than others. some people have walked away with conversations with him thinking he's very serious about it and that's top of mind. others think he's more sort of toying with it but he is not going to, i think, say one way or the other for most of the next two years. if anything, he'll lean into the idea of running and that is going to make it, again, very hard for other republicans to ignore him. whether that means the media does is a different question but it will make it very hard for other republicans that want to be president to move forward with their own plans. >> maggie, amanda, thank you for being with us. have a great night. >> thanks. next, breaking news in the latest covid vaccine heading for approval and the questions you might have about taking it. dr. sanjay gupta and lee anne win are here with answers. and coming up, has time run out for near are and then?
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will she be the first of president biden's nominees without a senate confirmation being held to a different standard about being nice on twitter with senators that had no problems with the former president's twitter habits. ♪ ♪ charlotte! charl! every day can be extraordinary with rich, wanna build a gaming business d that breaks the internet?. that means working ext night and day...ich, ...and delegating to an experienced live bookkeeper for peace of mind. your books are all set. so you can finally give john some attention. trusted experts. guaranteed accurate books. intuit quickbooks live.
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there's an armful of breaking news tonight in the race to get americans vaccinated before tougher forms of coe said take over. a study in israel confirming pfizer's vaccine is highly
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effective. the fda announcing the johnson & johnson vaccine has cleared another hurdle towards emergency authorization and new data showing it could provide better protection than first thought against the strain first identified in south africa. moderna, meantime, announcing it has designed and updated version of its vaccine that could be used as a booster against the variant from south africa. a lot to cover tonight, most of it good news for a change. joining us, cnn chief medical analyst dr. sanjay gupta and also cnn medical analyst, educator and former baltimore health commissioner leana wen. sanjay, you were reading the johnson & johnson information in real time when we were on the air earlier. you've had more time now to go through it. what do the numbers from johnson & johnson mean? >> yeah, so, you no e what my day's been like, john, first of all. >> yeah. >> let me show you the numbers. as you point out, i think there is some good news here. this is what the fda is going to be looking at in order to determine whether or not they're going to authorize the vaccine.
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the numbers on the left are the protections the vaccine offers in moderate up to severe disease. you mentioned that, if you look at the bottom line on the left, south africa, that trial was done in south africa, most of the virus circulating was the variant we talked about from south africa. previously, they said it was 57% protective. now saying 64%. so, some of these numbers have gone up. but really it's that number on the right that is so critically important across the board, you know? this vaccine is 85% protective against, i think what people care about the most, that they would get very sick, may need to be hospitalized or even die. it was very protective against that. one other thing, john, you may remember, you asked me this morning and i didn't know at the time, how beneficial was this vaccine in terms of potentially also preventing infections, because we know it can prevent people from getting sick. there's some early data on that, as well, out of this -- the 62 pages, small numbers of people, but basically say it's around
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70% protective to the person who takes the vaccine against getting infected, not carrying the virus, not subsequently transmitting it to others. small data, but we're going to keep looking into that. >> that is good news. just to be clear. people really want to nope, is one vaccine better for you than another? to that, you say? >> right now, take what you can get because demand is out weighing supply. if you look at the data, you can start to make some judgments, although the other vaccines were trialed at a different time, the vary iants weren't as widely circulating. i think the fact johnson & johnson is a single shot vaccine may be a little bit less effective than the other vaccines. it starts to give you sort of an idea how to approach this, maybe it should be reserved for people who live more transient
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lifestyles, unlikely to come back for the second shot. maybe because it may not protect as well against serious disease it could be reserved for people 60 and older and you keep the moderna and pfizer vaccines for people more at risk. we're going to hear about this from the cdc, but as we have more vaccine, we'll get more granular about those decisions. >> so, dr. wen, a third vaccine on the market. how does that change things? what benefit will that have for people? >> well, the first is that we know that supply is the constraining factor here and so having one more vaccine that's authorized, hopefully soon, will be a big difference, just in and of itself. and as sanjay mentioned, this is a one-dose vaccine, so, simplifies things when it comes to distribution. if you don't need to have people come back for a second dose and make that second appointment, that makes a big difference. also, in terms of storage, this is a vaccine that can be stored at regular refrigerator temperatures. think about your formal community pharmacy, your local doctor's office. they don't have specialized
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medical grade freezers but they can have this vaccine. so, opening up additional distribution sites will make a big difference, too. but one thing that sanjay mentioned that is so important to understood score, the end point that really matters is the end point of preventing severe disease, especially at preventing hospitalizations and depths, which this johnson & johnson one-dose vaccine was 100% at preventing such severe disease that it resulted in people getting hospitalized or who died. and part of the trial, as was mentioned, was done in south africa. even with the variant, it was 100% at preventing hospitalizations and deaths. so, we all need to counter the narrative that somehow this is a more inferior vaccine, because it's not and i very much agree with what sanjay said, you should take whatever vaccine is available to you. >> it is an important point for people to know as they approach that. sanjay, moderna announced today they are dealing with updating their covid-19 vaccine to deal with the variant found in south africa, a booster shot. what does this mean?
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>> well, first of all, it's really cool science, this idea they can retool this vaccine very quickly. i'm told, talking to these vaccine makers, 4 to 6 week, they could create a new type of booster shot. we could show you the different types they're now considering. one approach, we're not going to create a new vaccine necessarily, we're just going to give more of the existing vaccine. that would be a booster of the standard vaccine. second is what i'm just talking about. sort of creating new sort of vaccine based on this variant, perhaps the south africa variant and that would be specific. and the third option, a combination of both. so, these are the sort of -- this is how they're thinking through it and they're going to put these through trials and see if one of these options works better than the others and if they figure that out, that could benefit other vaccine makers, as well. >> so, dr. wen, with this booster, i mean, one of the questions this poses is, if you get the pfizer vaccine this
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spring, would you be able to get the moderna booster in the fall? >> that's a good question. i don't think we know the answer to this yet. it would make sense that you get the same booster as the vaccine that you got initially, but i also think that just because you got one vaccine to begin with, it may turn out over time that we find out that a particular vaccine is more beneficial to a certain group of people. so, people who are immunocompromised or people who have older or have certain medical conditions. so, i think over time, it may be that you get your initial vaccine that gives you some level of immunity, but get another vaccine that may give you additional benefits in another way. we don't know this yet but i want to urge people if something is available to you now, don't wait. don't say well, a booster may be available later so i'll wait until i get that booster. no, get whatever vaccine you have now because it benefits you to get immunity to protect you from covid-19 but it also benefits all of us if more
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people have immunity, that means less covid-19 can spread and that also means we can put an end to this pandemic sooner. >> sanjay, dr. wen, thank you both very much. just ahead, another sign that president biden's pick to head up the office of management and budget may be the defeat and how the white house may have misdocumented democratic support. and republicans suddenly finding religion on mean tweets, when religion on mean tweets, when "360" returns. moms want healthy... and affordable. land o' frost premium!!! no added hormones either. it's the only protein i've really melted with. land your groomingium. fresbusiness is booming.aste. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a shortlist of quality candidates from a resume data base. claim your seventy-five-dollar credit when you post your first job at
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more evidence tonight that president biden may see his first high profile nominee go down in defeat. two hearings scheduled to vote on neera tanden's nomination to be the top budget official in the white house postponed. part of the reason, more than 1,000 deleted tweets directed at some of the very senators that hold her political future in her hands, the culprit. >> my friendly advice to president biden is to withdraw neera tanden's nomination and select someone who at the very least has not promoted wild conspiracy theorys and openly bashed people on both sides of the aisle that she happens to agree with. disagree with. >> that's republican senator john cornyn on tuesday, who just did not seem to have the time or read or comment on tweepts by the former president who were
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far more cruel or conspiratorial. >> every morning, i wake up in my office and i scroll twitter to see what tweets i will have to pretend i did not see later on. >> i'm not giving a daily commentary on the president. >> i didn't see the tweets. i thought i saw the tweets this morning. i missed that one. >> what do you make of the president's tweets this morning? does the president need to be more cautious? >> yeah, i read that but i'll check it out. >> the president is hoping to frame the debate over issues of double standards and sexism. tonight, however, they have another problem on their hands, as well. whether they miscalculate the way they handled two key senators in their own party. our senior white house correspondent phil mattingly joins us now. and so phil, the republican hypocrisy aside, is this nomination all but sunk? >> sharp flashbacks to my last four years on capitol hill. to relay what a senior democratic aide told me, if you had money, don't bet it on near
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are a neera tanden's nomination sticking. take a listen to what ron klain said tonight. >> let me be clear, we'll get neera tanden confirmed and she'll prove critics wrong that she works with people on both sides of the aisle. >> but john, the reality is, white house advisers i've spoken to get that they have a math problem. they need at least one republican to support near are and theened's nomination and there's really only one republican out there that anybody's keeping an eye on, that's senator lisa murkowski, somebody neera tanden tweeted negatively towards. murkowski found that out today. and while she has not made up her mind yet and white house officials have been reaching out to her over the course of a last couple of days, it is unlikely, with mitch mcconnell urging his members to stick together, kind of wield some power here in their new experience in the minority, it is unlikely they will get a republican to support neera tanden, and that means her nomination is likely going down.
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for the moment, the white house is sticking it out. the white house is willing to let this play out for another couple of days, but i think they understand the dynamics at play here, john. >> so, the white house doesn't even have all democratic senators onboard to confirm neera tanden. in fact, we have new reporting on how complicated things are with democrats joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. what's the latest there? >> it's a 50/50 senate. there's no margin for error. they cannot afford to lose a single democrat on anything. they have lost a democratic senator. and part of the reason for that, according to white house officials and congressional officials i've been talking to over the course of the last couple days, there is a miscalculations, assumption joe biden as the new president, democrat in the oval office would have democratic support on anything particularly picking his team but the reality is the united states senate, one senator holds a tremendous amount of power, never has that been more clear than this united
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states senate with these dynamics. the white house stayed in close touch with senator manchin, biden and manchin have had multiple conversations by phone and they are staying in touch with kyrsten sinema of arizona, who doesn't speak publicly very often, but they are talking to her office. the one thing i'm being told is they are still trying to navigate this idea two moderate senators hold so much power. obviously had a misstep with kamala harris do television interviews in west virginia and manchin made clear he did not appreciate that. trying to get a better sense of kyrsten sinema. given the fact she's a relatively new senator, she has not served in congress while there's been a democratic president in the white house, they're still trying to get a feel for her, what she wants, what she needs and where she's going to end up. and that inact to read where those two senators are, at least at this point in time, may have imperilled one of president biden's nominees, john. >> phil mattingly, thank you so much, my friend.
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perspective now from our chief political correspondent and anchor of cnn's "state of the union," dana bash. i get that people have issues with neera tanden's politics. there are people who legitimately oppose her nomination. but there is hypocrisy here, when you have republicans talking about her tweets, right, for the four years that they ignored them or didn't read them. so, is there a different standard here? >> it's the definition of a double standard. i mean, there is really no other way to look at it and the fact that you played just some examples of republicans running the other way instead of condemning some exceptionally vile tweets from the president in their own party for four years, former president trump is just a perfect example. but the word standard is really the key one here, john, and that is because the sources i'm
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talking to, particularly democratic sources on capitol hill, say that this is an example of joe biden promising to raise the standard, to change the standard and to have the country, in particular, democrats, live by a different standard and that they don't think that neera tanden fits that bill. not all of them, of course, but those like joe manchin and a few others who are on the fence. >> there is a lesson here in politics. maybe a lesson in life, actually. if you're going to trash talk somebody on twitter or anywhere, say, brsernie sanders in 2016 a you're going to need him to get confirmed -- now, he hasn't come out opposed to near are and theened just yet but it is an awkward situation. so, how much of this should she have expected? >> well, you know, because you know you covered it realtime when neera tanden was trashing
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bernie sanders, she was doing it from the perspective of being a very staunch hillary clinton supporter. and many people in hillary clinton's orbit were not happy with bernie sanders. she took it to a much more direct, much more biting level in public on social media than others did. many of the others said a lot of those things in private, but still, that was the way that she saw her role there. the notion of her being nominated for a cabinet position and having. >> oh, bernie sanders to be the chairman of the committee in charge of your nomination, i'm sure it never crossed her mind, but i think what you're saying is, the lesson is, be nice. don't say anything, even though politics ain't bean bag, maybe before you hit send, think about it. >> you know what they say, they say karma is a budget committee chair. i think it's something like that, is what they say. senator joe manchin, who is
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really, you know, the crucial swing vote now on many different things, democrat from west virginia, he was the first to come out and say he was a no vote on neera tanden, saying it would have a, quote, toxic impact. and that it was nothing personal. but look, you know, senator manchin voted to confirm a lot of president trump's nominees who had similar things on their record, the ambassador to germany, who has a full twitter account with stuff like this, so, what's going on here? >> what's going on is -- well, first of all, i heard phil report that the opposition from joe manchin took the white house by surprise. and that's understandable, because anybody who has talked to joe manchin or followed his record, rick rennel is a perfect example. he thinks of his role as a senator through the lens of being a governor and somebody who wanted his people around him and was always hoped that the legislature approved his
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nominees. and that is for the most part how he has spent his senate career. and the fact that this was a different calculation was quite noteworthy, particularly since he understands his role as the centrist, he is very, very disappointed that joe biden and the biden administration is not working harder on the covid relief bill to find a bipartisan deal and, you know, this is a way for him to show that. having said that, talking about the ceo, the thought that he has and some others have that for neera tanden, if she were in the real world, if she were up for ceo and these tweets about, you know, employees or a company or whatever the analogy you want to use, came out, she probably wouldn't get the job. and that's the point that he's trying to make. it's the new standard that he says that joe biden is holding them to and should. >> dana bash, great to see you.
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another key area of business today on capitol hill. the future of security there in the wake of the january 6th riots. about how threats are being assessed and how long members of congress and the public will have to see those ten-foot fences and barbed wire. a briefing was held today about this and other security issues. ryan nobles joins us. what are you learning about the senators inside the briefing? >> well, frankly, john, we're learning that those senators didn't really learn all that much. both republican and democratic senators expressing a lot of frustration that the capitol still remains a militarized zone, with national guard troops
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all over the campus and as you mentioned, those ten-foot fences that are adorned with razor wire. and in this briefing today, they didn't really get too much of an idea of how long this fencing and that security posture is going to remain in place. and they were pointed to some events that security officials are concerned about in the coming days, perhaps the chance of president biden delivering a joint session address, that hasn't been scheduled yet, but they are concerned about that. and these lingering concerns about what could happen on march 4th, which is, of course, another date that conspiracy theorists and qanon supporters have targeted for potential uprises. but the frustration is palpable, because it's so quiet up here. there are no protesters up here and there really hasn't been since january 6th. >> i understand the k-file is learning about once oe of the insurrectionists that was a close ally of marjorie taylor
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greene. >> yes, this individual is a conservative livestreamer. he's someone that's been a longtime supporter of marjorie taylor greene and he posted a number of videos and photos from the capitol insurrection. he was an active participant in it. now, he isn't somebody that's been targeted for criminal action at this point, but what is most interesting about this interaction with him and marjorie taylor greene, as you mentioned, this is someone that's been a big supporter of hers, someone that he's described as one of his closest friends. taylor greene has suggested on multiple occasions that perhaps it wasn't trump supporters that were responsible for what happened on january 6th. aguero specifically says in a video that it was all trump supporters. that there was no one from ante that here, no one from black lives matters, but it was trump supporters participating in this event and subsequent riot. completely contradicting what marjorie taylor greene has said. now greene, the k-file reached out to her office today to try
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to learn more about her relationship with this individual and they simply didn't respond. >> imagine that. marjorie taylor greene may have said something that proved not to be true. ryan nobles, thank you so much for being with us. in the wake of the capitol riot, more attention being given to the infiltration of u.s. extremist groups into u.s. society. cnn has obtained a report that details the ties between white supremacists and current and former members of the u.s. military. more now from our pentagon correspondent. >> the coverup was, i want to say, six total sessions. >> reporter: the ink can hide the symbols of extremism, but the damage runs far deeper. >> when he first came in and showed us the work that he had, i think everybody's jaw kind of hit the floor. >> reporter: at redemption ink in colorado springs, dave brown has covered more than 70 extremist or hate-inspired tattoos. more than 20 were military. and he has a wait list of 635 people. >> we have covered everything
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from portraits of the founding fathers of the kkk to swastikas. i've covered up a human trafficking branding. >> reporter: the army veteran camouflages the tattoos of hate, but these aure still spreading n the military. a way to grow their own ranks amidst a nationwide surge in white nationalist activity. according to a department of defense report obtained by cnn, some of the recruiting tactics are more brazen and open. one example in the report, a military member and cofounder of a group told another member that he was open about everything with his friends at training. they love me, too, because i'm a funny guy, he wrote in a message. the defense department determined that others find each other through obscure fascist symbols of t-shirts or connect on social media and messaging apps. u.s. troops are primary targets
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for many extremist groups who want their training, their combat experience and the legitimacy they bring to an organization. the report found that one group shared military man yums including an army manual on ieds on the encrypted messaging app known as telegram. the capitol riots of january 6th put a spotlight on military extrem extremism. at least 27 people facing federal charges in connection with the riot are current or former members of the military. secretary of defense lloyd austin has made the fight against domestic extremism one of his top priorities. >> this tears at the fabric, very fabric of cohesion and it's important for us to be able to trust the men and women on our left and right. >> reporter: extremism has been a problem in the military for decades. austin says he believes the number of extremists in the military is low, but there is no data to back up his assertion.
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austin has ordered a review of policies, but extremism experts say this will take time. >> this is a massive management task and it's not going to be something that's done very easily at all. >> reporter: the military has strict legal limits on the screening and background checks it can deeper for intrusive investigations include working with the fbi. he says the military needs a better screening process to root out extremism before it enters the ranks. >> i would say you need to fix your screening measures immediately. social media accounts need to be taken a look at, not just voluntarily, but seriously. you need a functioning tattoo database for your recruiters and they need to be trained in the signs of white supremacy. i don't understand -- beyond the
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challenges -- >> there's the issue of veterans, more than 18 million of them, who are also prime targets for domestic extremists. >> oren liebermann joins me now. this is a problem. we have seen current and former members of military charmed in the capitol riot. what is the pentagon doing about it? >> the military wide review known as a stand out, and that will include not only review of the policy and procedures, but also discussions at all ranks of the military about the oaths of service as well as the sort of the code and what's important to am military and the values here. that, he says, is only a first step. crucially, that only addresses active duty. the question of what to do about veterans who find themselves with extremist ideologies or ranks is a much more difficult question because dod can't do the same sort of monitoring, screenings, or keeping track of veterans the same way they can for active duty. this all required data. how widespread is the problem, and that is fundamentally lacking at this point.
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golfer's twitter page said the accident caused significant injuries to his right leg and screws and pins had to be inserted into his foot and ankle. this as support has poured in in what is considered to be a very long recovery. kyung lah with more on what happened. >> the investigation into tiger woods' crash will look at speed, how quickly the suv was traveling down this road when the golfer lost control. >> we're hoping this is going to be quick. >> this black box will have some information about the speed. it may be a factor in this accident. >> this winding, downhill road is known as a local trouble spot. deputies did not find skid marks or indications of brakes used or any evidence of impairment. deputies say the engineering of the suv, airbags and seat belt likely saved woods' life. >> we have a rollover with someone trapped. >> responder officers found woods trapped in the wreckage of the high-speed single car rollover.
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the hospital says his legs were broken in multiple places. surgeons inserted a rod to stabilize fractures exposed to open air. bones, especially in his right foot and ankle, needed screws and pins. surgeons also worked to relieve muscle swelling and pressure. >> the surgeons likely believed if they did not perform one of those procedures to release that pressure, they actually were worried that he could lose the limb, that amputation might have been necessary. >> woods' family says he is awake, responsive, and recovering in the hospital. emotion continues to pour in from the sports world. >> we love him. and you know, any time someone that you care deeply about is hurt, it hurts. and it's not me, it's everybody out here. >> to those marking the barrier breaking figure in a sport largely dominated by white athletes. >> there is some people who were
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able to look at tiger woods and understand black excellence in this arena in a way they hadn't understood it before. >> i had come to the realization i would never play competitive golf again. >> woods has faced potentially career ending injuries before. this video explains his comeback after one of his five back surgeries. a reminder of why even after this devastating accident, tiger woods cannot be counted out yet. >> i went from accepting it and having a peace of mind that i would never, ever do this again to all of a sudden mucking around with my kids, with the green coat, just hanging around the living room. that is just wild. >> now, the los angeles county sheriff has stressed repeatedly and publicly that they're not looking to charge tiger woods or put the blame on him. the emphasis is going to be on the roadway. the county of los angeles has
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ordered a safety review of this particular stretch of roadway. john, here's a little bit of perspective. just since january of 2020, there have been 13 car accidents along this stretch of road. that's about one every single month, john. >> wow. all right, kyung lah, thank you very much. reminder, don't miss full circle, anderson's digital news show. you can catch it at 6:00 p.m. at or watch it on there or the cnn app any time on demand. let's hand it over to chris at "cuomo prime time." >> appreciate it, john. i am chris cuomo. welcome to prime time. do you want to know why the democrats can't even get a deal on pandemic relief? the answer is trump. the right is in a war with itself over whether it will be defined by principles that work in a democracy or by whether they are in with a demagog. the idea of whether or not conservatives should invite trump to speak at their annual shindig brought out this divide