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that he is asking the doj to release all the information that they've collected into this investigation including tapes in the surveillance that has come out having to do with this investigation and again, he denies that he did anything wrong, erin? >> ryan, thank you very much. on that breaking news and thanks to all of you for being with us, "ac 360" starts now. believe i witnessed a murder. jim sciutto sitting in for anderson tonight. those are the words of donald williams who testified in day two of derek chauvin's murder trial. others today on the stand talked about what they saw and what is still difficult for just anyone to see. officer chauvin's knee and body choking george floyd last may. those witnesses were too young to be shown on camera. the fact that they were not too young to witness a murder live speaks volumes today. in a few minutes, we'll speak in
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depth about that as well as about what happens if what millions of americans saw on video and reacted to by taking to the streets is not what the jury sees. what happens if there is no conviction? also, in light of what erin and ryan nobles just aired, we'll speak with the reporter who first broke the matt gaetz story, first, however, cnn omar jimenez. >> reporter: the story of may 25th, 2020 in minneapolis told today through the lens of eyewitnesss. >> i had already assessed that he had an altered level of consciousness, what i needed to know is whether or not he had a pulse anymore. >> reporter: she was an emt off duty on a walk when she ended up feet from george floyd she saw him pinned under the knee of derek chauvin and wanted to help, at the very least, chest compressions. >> when you couldn't do that, how did that make you feel?
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>> totally distressed. >> were you frustrated? >> yes. >> donald williams was standing right next to her. >> i believe i witnessed a murder. >> reporter: of floyd seemingly unresponsive body was loaded into the ambulance that day, williams called the police on the police he had just witnessed in particular derek chauvin. that 911 audio was played in court. >> this guy that wasn't resisting arrest. >> reporter: williams didn't feel he could talk to the officers at the scene. >> did you believe that they were involved? >> yes, totally. >> reporter: but the most contentious exchange of the trial so far. >> did you say that? >> is that what you heard? >> reporter: was between williams and chauvin's attorney during cross-examination when he questioned williams who he called chauvin that day. >> he called him a bum at least
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13 times. those terms grew more and more angry, would you agree with that? >> they grew more and more pleading for life. >> reporter: the defense emphasizing a point it made during opening statements that the perceived threat from a growing crowd caused chauvin to divert his attention. it was audio only since they were under 18 at the time of floyd's death including a 9-year-old and her 18-year-old cousin identified as d.f. she's the one who filmed the infamous cell phone video seen around the world. >> i see a man on the ground, and i see a cop kneeling down on him. >> reporter: she was asked to identify derek chauvin in court. >> are you able to tell the ladies and gentlemen of the jury who this man is? you can take your time. [crying]
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>> yes. yes. >> reporter: she said she felt threatened by the police there including chauvin that day, a day she can't let go of. even close to a year later. >> when i look at george floyd, i look at my dad. i look at my brothers. there's been nights i stayed up apologizing and apologizing to george floyd for not doing more and not physically interacting. >> reporter: and chauvin. >> it not what i should have done, it's what he should have done. >> reporter: omar jimenez joins us from minneapolis. today's testimony as we heard again there certainly emotional, moving but also at times, this was noticeable contentious when the defense team was involved. based on your reporting, was that intentional and are we
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expecting to see more of the same tomorrow? >> reporter: well, jim, for starters, we were hearing from people who physically were as close to what happened on may 25th, 2020 as you could possibly be. many of them within feet of george floyd pinned under derrick shoderek cha chauvin's knee and some of them wishing they could have helped but not able to. when you translate that into testimony, you got what we saw unfold today particularly when the defense attorney for derek chauvin was involved. so much so to the point that the emt that testified, she was the last one that testified today at one point was scolded by the judge after the jurors were dismissed saying you can't argue with the defense attorney. it happened with donald williams, as well, during his portion. but what was clear from everyone who came to the stand today is being that close to what happened still sits with them many of them are at least some of them i should say coping with the question of what could i have done differently? we ended the day with the emt
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testimony that is where we're going to pick things back up tomorrow as we get closer at least try to establish a record of what happened and why on may 25th, 2020 from those closest to the story. >> so many eyewitnesss. of course, the video itself an eyewitness itself. let's bring in our law enforcement and legal team now. cnn analyst laura coats and cnn law enforcement analyst charles ramsey and former top cop in philly and d.c. and cnn legal analyst mark ome omer omerra. he said he called 911 quote because i believed i witnessed a murder. how much does testimony like that help the prosecution and influence jurors in their decision? >> it helps tremendously. particularly because it's corroborating other testimony.
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it not just his own gut instinct. it's not just what he perceived but builds upon what other witnesses are testifying and builds upon what was viewed in the videotape which you actually speak about is really the star witness here. it builds on the 911 dispatcher. it builds off of, again, the firefighter who testified along with the four underaged teenagers who were speaking about this very issue and that cumulation of evidence, that cumulation of weight is extraordinarily credible when he saw no human connection with the officers on scene and called 911 to help. >> mark, you've been on the other side in the courtroom on the defense, and i wonder picture if you could picture yourself there in the courtroom, how impactful in your view would the testimony be of a teenager who took that video talking exactly how upset she was by what she witnessed? these are powerful firsthand accounts. >> it extraordinary powerful for a jury. let not forget, these are 12
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people who are parents or children. they have people around them. they care about and when you listen to a teenager, you know a teenager who is in a similar situation not to have witnessed a killing but somebody that you want to empathize with and sympathize with. that's very, very compelling and i think the defense team has to be extraordinary careful. you want to balance it. you want to be a zealous advocate but you have to take your shots right against an emt or witness who says i think i saw a killing or murder, you have to be very careful because your audience of those 12 people, if you lose those 12 people because of your attack, if you will, on one of the witnesses, you may never get that credibility back. >> i want to get to that point because it was contentious. some seemingly sympathetic witnesses, before we do just for a moment chief ramsey, another defense argument here is this question of whether that group of bystanders, some of whom confronted the officers as it
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was happening posed a threat to those officers and distriacted them. that's what is being argued by the defense. and are you incredible. >> i didn't consider that to be people upset because what they were witnessing but i didn't see them as a threat to the officers. you know, one piece of evidence that has yet to come out will at some point is the body worn camera footage because that will pick up the conversation between the officers that took place on that day and that's going to be very insightful in terms of how they felt they were doing, did they try to take a pulse? did any of them do that? all those kinds of questions i believe once that body worn camera footage is reviewed. >> to the untrained eye, it seems the defense says that
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chauvin may have been distracted by the crowd but the use of force was appropriate right in line with his training. i mean, can they have it both ways? are those two things mutually exclusive? >> well, if they were the prosecution they couldn't have it both ways. you have to have a consistent theme that applies to each of the elements of the crime. if you're a defense attorney, you're trying to cast aspersions on the credibility of witnesses. you're trying to plant seeds of doubt and sprinkle these seeds in different directions hoping would be listen able to germ n in a way. they will try these things. so far, they have not beenfbeen if he can --f effective, the video, 9 minutes and 29 and you have it corroborated by different people as my colleague was speaking about, you can attack the credibility of adults but disinterested teenagers saying the same things. it's very rare you'll have different people looking at the
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same thing and looking at the same ink blot test and seeing the same picture. here you have that consistency. the defense has got to try whatever it can to try to disrupt that and this is the way they're doing it to say how about this? how about this? so far, how about none of it? >> it struck us here as notable that some of those witnesses old enough to witness a killing but not old enough to testify in court with their facinges showi. rema remarkable. i want to go back to the point of the defense going after some of the witnesses particularly trying to undermine the testimony for instance of donald williams but also being contentious with the off duty emt. you've defended folks successfully in court as you watched that more damaging than helpful to the defense in your view. >> again, balance, what laura said is right. the defense team has the luxury
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of finding or creating reasonable doubt wherever they can but having said that they need to maintain their own consistency and credibility with the jury and this idea of throwing attacks as small as they may be against whatever witness comes up may backfire. if they say the crowd was at fault for chauvin's actions as you mentioned a moment ago, jim, that is very inconsistent and you're trying to blame everybody else rather than explain the behavior of chauvin in a more quote positive way. they need to be very, very careful because if what happens is that the jury feels that the defense is just there to interfere to attack, to attack the credibility of an emt, of an mma, of somebody we call a disclosure witness, somebody without time for reflection calls the cops and the cops, if it's constant attack then sort of like the boy who cries wolf starts lessoning the blade of what you try to get across.
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>> great point you make there. they were struck in that moment that they were witnessing a murder taking place. they didn't think about it. i didn't come up days or weeks or hours later. chief ramsey, the defense claims and this is central to their argument that the use of force derek chauvin used in that moment was necessary in line with his training. if that level of force was necessary, though, by the defensive standards, i wonder what would be considered unnecessary? what's the limit then if that's true? >> well, first of all, it not true. what he did is not consistent with any training anywhere that i'm aware of at all. an officer has the ability and right to use force to overcome resistance but only that force that's necessary in order to affect the arrest. it has to be necessary and proportionally and reasonable. when you look at the video and
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s you see george floyd not getting into the police car and they're using force to get him in, that's one thing. once they get him on the ground, handcuffed and prone on the ground, when the resistance stops, the force has to stop. force was justified at one moment in time, it doesn't mean one minute or two minutes or three minutes now the same level of force is still justified. that's not proper -- that's not the training that he received. >> well, listen, it's good to draw on all of your experience. you have firsthand experience in the courtroom and law enforcement. thanks so much to all of you. >> thank you. coming up next this hour, given the level of protest after george floyd's killing, is the country ready for the possibility, at least, of a verdict other than guilty? also, covid with hospitalization soaring as much as six fold in some states and cases rising in 24 states. can vaccinations begin to keep a lid on a coming forth surge plus the breaking news tonight, what
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the "new york times" is reporting about florida republican congressman matt gaetz and a federal investigation he now admits to being under. that's not all he's talking about either. details are interesting to say the least ahead.
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given when the country has already seen of derek chauvin's actions the day george floyd died with chauvin's knee on his neck, it's clear many have formed conclusions about the case. it is for this generation of americans who the rodney king beating was a generation ago and given how that ended of jurors acquitted in that case three officers and could not reach a verdict on the fourth despite what they saw, the potential parallels this time are easy to imagine. here to talk about it, cnn political commentator and democratic state lawmaker bakari sellers. good to have you on tonight. >> thank you so much. >> so i don't want to predict
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the outcome of this trial. none of us can. but there is historically and recently a troubling pattern of police officers in this country being acquitted or even not charged at all after killing african americans in at least questionable sometimes alarming circumstances. there is a long way to dgo on this trial but look ahead and imagine what it would mean for this country if there was no legal consequence for this. >> i mean, i think the word that we're looking for is justice, and many people watching this trial not just in the united states but around the world want full justice for george floyd and his family. i mean, we saw what we saw with our own eyes on that video. we saw a black man not get the benefit of his mhumanity so you have to ask questions that are logical. would a white man in this country be treated the same? would that knee be on the back of his neck for more than nine
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minutes? dogs don't even get treated like that. i don't coknow anyone -- i don' come in contact of anyone that would put their knee on a dog neck for 9 minutes. chauvin thought it was appropriate. to bring context to this trial, think about the imagery that those two young black girls who testified today saw. when you think about 9 years old living with that image sered into your brain or the young man who testified today and talked about the fact that they wanted to make him a character of an angry black man but he was still so firm and articulate. it an unfortunate and common occurrence within our community of not getting full justice. we dare not imagine what that feels like at the end of the day. >> you mentioned two young witnesses. for me that was one of the most moving parts of the trial today
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and just the fact that they were old enough to witness someone's death but not old enough to have their faces shown in court and i want to play the sound of one of them, a 9-year-old. her face is not shown because of her age. how she saw it, listen. >> i saw that officer put a knee on george floyd. i was sad and kind of mad. >> i mean, that's a child's testimony there. your reaction to that and the impact of hearing that? >> i mean, it was a child's testimony but so pure and clear and it spoke to the emotions of us all. i don't know if it going to move a juror. i don't know if it's going to go to intent. i don't know if it's going to be able to discern or be the weighted difference between a first or second or third degree but she was speaking to the core of who we are as americans. she was speaking beyond those things of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness but the not
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so tangible ideas of empathy and justice and things we have to begin to treat our fellow man with. this is a very difficult case, though, jim. it really is. because it's very difficult to convict individuals wearing badges of murder even when you see it and, you know, i think many of us are -- i don't want to say optimistic but very cautious day by day as we go through this trial because our emotions are going in so many different directions and, you know, i think there is a message to us all for young people of color in our communities, we have to wrap our arms around them because of the imagery they see every single day because they grow up in the era of george floyd or breanna onna ta we have to lift them up to protech them and also let them know we care and love them and number two, we have to realize democracy is participatory and we have to do our civic duty to
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participate in juro juries to b rooms like this. >> i was thinking that as i heard that sweet little voice describe what she saw in terms that clearly still affected her. all these many months later. i was sad and kind of mad she said. now, it's notable that the defense is not just trying to undermine witnesses. that's what they do but they're also trying to portray those in the crowd on that curve that day as angry, as threatening, as districting. i wonder what you make of that line of argument? >> well, i'm a criminal defense lawyer, as well, jim. not only am i a husband and father and cnn commentator but practice law and do criminal defense so watching what he's attempting to do, i can tell you that he didn't come to court with a bag full of resources. there ain't a whole lot there. he's throwing a lot of things at the wall trying to see what will stick. he's attempting to make
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arguments that many of us, you know, he's not making this case for twitter as i say, but he's making arguments many of us may find to be ludicrous but focussing on one or two or three jurors who may give him a nod or give eye contact throughout or trying to speak to what the conscious to their conscious may be. it a very uphill battle for both sides in this case. but again, the defense has one advantage on their side. in this country we rarely put the words murderer and cop together and we'll see if that actually happens because that's the only way we can get justice in this case. >> and the videos are a witness, too, right? bar ca bakari sellers, thanks for coming on. important conversation. the breaking news on florida republican congressman matt gaetz. "the new york times" reporting tonight he's facing a justice department inquiry over whether he had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old. what he is saying tonight about
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more now on our breaking news involving florida republican congressman matt gaetz, an ally of the former president and favorite among conserve tzefserzservative acti.
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he's being investigated whether he had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old girl and paid for her to travel with him. he told a kbrxios tonight the allegations are false. he also said quote i was not a target but a subject of an investigation regarding sexual conduct with women. he fired off is series of tweets tonight claiming he was the subject of an elaborate extortion scheme. joining me is katy benner who shares the by line on this story. so good to have you on tonight. what more do you know about the exact focus of the doj investigation? >> thanks so much for having me on. what we know is that the justice department began investigating congressman gaetz last summer and stemmed into one of the congressman's friends investigated and charged -- excuse me, investigated and charged for a variety of crimes
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including trafficking -- you know, excuse me, trafficking of an underaged woman. so it seems that what the justice department is looking at is whether or not mr. gaetz and having a relationship with a 17-year-old girl violated statutes that include interstate, you know, taking her over state lines and giving her something of value quote unquote which could be money or could be something like a travel expense. >> understood. okay. the simple terms, have you confirmed whether or not congressman gaetz had a relationship with this young woman? >> that is what investigators are looking into. >> understood. we should note as you say, this began last summer when the justice department was led by bill barr. this evening congressman gaetz tweeted several times after your report basically a statement and i want to read them here quoting after the past several weeks, my family and i are victims of an organized extortion involving a
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doj official seeking $25 million while threatening to smear my name. we have been cooperating with federal authorities in this matter and my father has been wearing a wire at fbi's direction to catch the criminals. the planted leak to the fbi was intended to thwart that investigation. no part of the allegations against me were true and the people pushing these lies are targets of the on going extortion investigation. i demand the doj release the tapes at their direction that implicate the former colleague in crimes against me based on false allegations. i wonder how does that square with your reporting and what he told you as you were reporting out this story? >> that dove tails with our reporting. keep in mind when this investigation was opened, it was opened under the justice department under william p.barr who last february told all prosecutors if anyone is investigated with a member of congress, somebody running for office, anybody high profile
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that investigation had to be signed off on by their supervisor, the head of the criminal division and briefed to bill barr himself. it unlikely that bill barr would have investigated one of president trump's biggest allies as part of an extortion plot. so, you know, separate from that, the idea of the extortion we do have some reporting that last week somebody had heard about this investigation and did use the information to try to get money out of congressman gaetz' father. things he is saying about extortion -- >> one followed the other. i want to bring in the chief political correspondent and dana bash. so dana, remarkable story here in the times of course. those tweets from congressman gaetz make a huge claim what he is subject to but as katy made
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the point, from her reporting, the extortion investigation followed the initial investigation of this improper relationship. what do you make of how he's responding to all of this? >> you know, he's coming out guns blazing but he's doing so because of the fact that somebody wanted this piece of information, the fact that this is an investigation that's been going on for at least several months considering the fact that katy was reporting that it started during not just the trump administration but while the attorney general at the time was william barr who didn't make it to the end of the trufr mp administration, that's quite telling. this looks like this is a from the times reporting a very lengthy very detailed investigation of this associate of his but as katy was saying, it doesn't mean that -- and the fact that he knew about it
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suggests he's not the target of the investigation but the fact that he sort of concedes he's the subject of it means he could be in trouble but again, i just want to emphasize the politics of the fact that gaetz is not just being investigated by a justice department of another administration of another party. it started during administration of the person who he is closely lim linked with and the reason we even know his name because he's kind of a back benter republican and because he's been so far out there in defending the former president through thick and thin. >> it's a good point. and as you know better than me, these terms target subject of investigation, they're often in precise and can be and can often change. as you know tonight's drama comes on the heels of axios reporting earlier today the
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congressman gaetz is looking to leave congress for an on air job at news max, a right wing media channel owned by trump ally. i don't want to connect things that aren't related but what do you read into that given "the times" story and tweets and connection? >> he has now since told "the new york times" that he has no intention of leaving congress. so that's an update to katy's story that she's breaking tonight about the whole investigation but let's just say that this was something that the congressman was considering. it wouldn't be surprising, jim, you know that he is a fixture on conservative media. he really loves the spotlight, loves thoeater no matter what. just one example. he went on the floor of the house and put a gas mask on in a way to, you know, frankly mock the notion of wearing a mask to
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protect yourself from covid, and most recently he traveled -- he's from florida. he has no connection to the state of wyoming but he traveled to wyoming to hold a press conference to taunt a member of his own leadership liz cheney because she voted to impeach donald trump. and so that is the context in which we should remember to view this member of congress. he likes to be at the kind of the tip of the spear when it comes to republican politics and when it comes to trump republican politics. >> dana bash, as always. bringing back katy who broke the story. one more question, when did the doj begin this investigation and do we know the timeline? right? a likely conclusion. that often is not clear. >> i mean, we don't know when this investigation is going to end. we know it stems from an
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investigation that began into a different florida man named joel greenburg a local florida official who was indicted last summer on sex trafficking a child, financially supporting people in which change for sex one being underaged. that investigation mr. greenburg resigned. that ichb venvestigation was on and somehow led them. they're not sure. it unclear the extent of any criminal exposure but that is how mr. gaetz' possible relationship with a 17-year-old girl came on the radar late last summer. so the investigation has been going on for about half a year. >> understood. okay. well, katy, good reporting. thanks so much dana bash. thanks so much, as well. just ahead this hour, why vaccinations alone may not be enough to ward off a potential fourth surge in coronavirus infections.
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there is fear tonight and some evidence in the data of a possible fourth surge in new covid infections. the average number of cases is up 23% over the last seven days. that is the highest week to week increase in more than two months. 24 states are seeing a rise. six of those are seeing an increase of more than 30%. today the cdc director said
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vaccines give us a reason for hope but that masks and other safety measures need to be maintained to keep cases and hospitalizations and deaths sadly in check. i'm joined by dr. peter hotez, center for vaccine development at texas children's hospital and author of the new book "preventing the next pandemic, vaccine diplomacy in a time of anti science." dr. hotez, so good to have you on. as you look at the data, do you share the cdc's directors concerns another surge is coming? >> absolutely. the reason is we're seeing a pretty sharp increase. we were down as low around 50, 55,000 in confirmed cases a day and now we're heading back up to 70,000 new case as day. it not happening evenly across the country, which is the pattern it always been. it's accelerating in the northeast. it's accelerating in michigan and upper midwest and there is some link with high level of the
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b.1.1.7 variant which we know is more transmissible and we know is higher morbidity mortality and jim, the other piece to this is we're starting to see a lot of young people get sick. even though we've done a good job of vaccinating older americans over the age of 65, more than half have been vaccinated, we're seeing a lot of young people go into the hospital and i think that's because of the b.1.1.7 variant. so it's a matter of hanging on and not doing reckless things until we can vaccinate the american people. >> once again, politics are driving a lot of reactions to this. how much should governors take into account national numbers when determining whether to ease their own restrictions? because obviously, the 50 states do not exist in exactly the same conditions. i mean, can you make an argument there is no one size fits all when it comes to these kinds of restrictions, mandates, et cetera. >> here is what the governors
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did, jim. they looked at the steep de declines and on their own without consulting the centers for disease control concluded we're out of this. they saw the numbers declining. they saw the positivity rates down and said we're done without really consulting with public health officials regarding the b.1.1.7 variant and knowing how quickly it can accelerate and that's what worries me a lot and even though the numbers are -- have been down in places like texas and florida and georgia because we have a lot of b.1.1.7 variant here, i'm beginning to see a blip upward and a lot of the governors and if you look at the map of where the governors have relaxeded restrictions, you know, i don't like to be political but it very much gone along red blue lines and that's why i'm worried we'll see another big red state surge like we saw last summer into the fall. >> the data doesn't lie. dr. peter hotez, thanks so much. >> thanks so much, jim. there is one enormous segment of the population we
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just talked about for which there currently is no available vac vaccine. young children. this month however, pfizer and moderna began testing their vaccines in children under the age of 12. "360" gary tuchman got a unique look at a trial. he met a brother and sister taking part in the moderna trial, they couldn't be happier or brayer. >> reporter: this little boy and girl are about to make history. this 6-year-old and 9-year-old are getting covid vaccines. >> ready? >> okay. all done. >> that was it. >> reporter: phoebe becoming the first child to get the shot in the moderna children's covid-19 trial at this research facility and one of the first in the u.s. and canada. the day began about 90 minutes earlier. arlo and phoebe walking into the facility with their parents. a brother too old for the trial and a baby brother too young.
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the trial is for infants 6 months old through and until children 11 years old but the initial stage begins with children at least 6 years old. parents ashton and stephon take a seat and sign consent forms and children who are 7 or above also have to sign. prevaccine medical prosaid dau -- procedures begin. blood pressure. an ear check and they know a required covid test. >> pull your mask down for me and look up to the ceiling. thank you. perfect. >> reporter: the children are brave throughout. >> keep your arms straight. >> reporter: even with the blood test. it's then almost time for the covid vaccine and we take some time to talk to the proud parents. was it a hard decision to allow your children to be in this trial? >> no, not a hard decision at all for me. we believe in the science of
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vaccines and excited at the opportunity to be part of it. >> reporter: among this first group of participants, a lesser dose is given than the dose adults receive. jason wallace is the clinical research site manager for the facility and says this regarding placebos. >> for the first 750 patients thag nationwide, it's open label meaning all the children in the first arms for that 750 are guaranteed to get the actual vaccine. >> reporter: placebo will be used later on in the trial. the youngest children will start getting scheduled soon, 3-year-old and participants. their parents are rachel and garrett gutry. >> we knew this is something we want to participate in. the opportunity for them to be vaccinated at such an early stage, we jumped at the opportunity honestly. >> reporter: holly and charlotte are scheduled to be vaccinated within a few weeks. these small children unbeknownst to them will be leaders in the
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effort to help humanity, which brings us back to phoebe's brother arlo. the 6-year-old is getting his covid vaccine. >> ready? >> yeah. >> you're going to do great. and go. good job. see, not too bad, was it? >> reporter: both children will come back in four weeks. their health will continue to be monitored. you're done getting your shot now, right? >> yeah. >> caller: how did it feel? >> it felt good. >> reporter: was it easy? >> kind of. >> reporter: do you know you're a hero? >> no. >> reporter: you are. you're a medical hero. it says it on your sticker. >> i know what ten times ten is. >> reporter: what is ten times ten? >> 100. >> reporter: you're right. you're not only a hero, you're smart, right? >> yeah. >> reporter: gary tuchman, cnn, phoenix. >> too cute. coming up next, very disturbing new video tonight of yet another assault on an asian american woman. it is difficult to watch. this time it took place in new york city. there is a clip there. we'll have more details when we
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administration today announced new actions to combat the rise in what it calls, quote, anti-asian violence, xenophobia and violence. these actions come in the wake of the atlanta area killings which occurred two weeks ago today but a spate of other attacks, including a particularly disturbing one caught on video in new york. stand by for this, it's alarming. 360's randi kaye has the details. we should warn you that some of the images are truly disturbing. >> reporter: this woman was walking on a new york city street when she was approached by a man who suddenly kicks her in the stomach. she falls to the ground but the assault isn't over. watch as she is kicked in the head not once, not twice, but three times before the attacker walks away. the victim is a 65-year-old asian-american woman, attacked because of the way she looks according to police. they are calling it a hate crime assault. >> just trying to make sense of it, pat, and you can't.
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i don't know who attacks a 65-year-old woman and leaves her on the street like that. >> the attacker allegedly made anti-asian statements saying you don't belong here to the victim. she was taken to the hospital with a serious injury. though she is in stable condition. in an effort to identify the individual wanted in connection with the incident police released images of this man seen walking away from the scene of the attack. in the video which was taken from inside an apartment building at least three people are seen in the lobby. none of them helped the victim. one even goes to close the door after the attacker walked away. the broadsky organization which owns the building says it condemn -- this is just the latest example of the disturbing and disgusting rise of violence against asian-americans over the past year. katie ho was attacked after participating in a black and asian solidarity march in new york city earlier this month.
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police say a man approached her and took away the sign she was holding. she says he then punched her in the face, twice. >> i said what are you doing? and he just approached me and attacked me. >> reporter: one report says hate crimes against asian-americans have spiked nearly 150% in america's largest cities in the last year. but even as these attacks continue some asian-americans are fighting back. this 75-year-old grandmother in san francisco was punched in the face by an assailant who was later carried away from the scene in a stretcher after she grabbed a wooden stick and fought back against him. more than $900,000 in donations poured in from all over the country to help pay for her medical bills but she says she will donate the funds back to the aapi community in order to continue the fight against
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racism. randi kaye, cnn, palm beach county, florida. >> she sure fought back. we'll be right back. lavender baths always calmed him. so we turned bath time into a business. and building it with my son has been my dream job. at northwestern mutual, our version of financial planning helps you live your dreams today. find a northwestern mutual advisor at
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