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could result in those things. our feeling is that, well, anything that you give a police officer can be misused. if it's misused, can cause life-altering injuries and/or death. >> were you able to identify who gave that order? >> it was the assistant deputy chief. >> we're going to continue to stay on top of that hearing. in the meantime, thank you for being with me. "newsroom" continues with brooke baldwin right now. you are watching cnn on this thursday. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you so much for being with me. just a short time from now, the former police officer accused of killing daunte wright will make her first court appearance via zoom. kimberly potter served 26 years with the broonl center, minnesota, police and then on sunday, police say potter grabbed her gun instead of her taser and shot wright, a 20-year-old father, during this traffic stop. court documents indicate another
officer on the scene tried to arrest wright on a misdemeanor weapons charge and then wright pulled away, jumping back into the driver's seat and that is when potter fired her weapon. a prosecutor in an outside county is now overseeing the case. that has charged potter with second degree manslaughter and the criminal complaint says this. let me quote. kimberly ann potter caused the death of daunte wright by her culpable negligence whereby kimberly potter created an unreasonable risk and consciously took a chance of causing death or great bodily harm to daunte demetrius wright. let's go right to aadr aadrienne broaddus. this former officer, she is now out on bail, correct? >> reporter: she is. hours after she was booked into the hennepin county jail, which is about eight minutes or eight
miles away from the police station where she built her career, she bonded out. she goes before a hennepin county judge within the next hour, and it will not be in-person. it's a virtual hearing because keep in mind, brooke, and those of you watching and listening, we are still in the middle of a pandemic, so she will appear before zoom, and it's likely that initial hearing will be about ten minutes or so. the judge will go over the criminal complaint, likely read the criminal complaint to her and also reiterate she has been charged with second-degree manslaughter. here in the state of minnesota, that charge carries a maximum penalty of up to ten years behind bars. meanwhile, brooke, you might also notice behind me, the scene looks a little different. i'm going to ask our photographer, jake, to pan over and give you a picture. a crew with the city is here right now installing another layer of fencing.
the protests overnight were much smaller than what we've seen in previous nights, but this is another layer of protection, and it's also a way, they hope, to keep that lane open toing inning and ongoing traffic. when the protesters arrive here, they take over this entire area and nobody can get through. to my left, there is an apartment building. the corner at the end is the bus stop. yeah. that's where children get picked up for school every morning, so imagine, at night, small children are inside of the apartment complex here. small children are inside of the homes behind approthe complex a their parents what's happening, what's going on. why are these people chanting? and how come i'm having trouble breathing? we did hear from law enforcement who said there have been some medical situations here, brooke. >> community on edge, understandably so, and that, of course, as you astutely point
out, includes the children. adri adrienne. eli honig is joining me, former federal prosecutor also joining us, and charles ramsey who used to lead the police officers in philadelphia and washington. eli, starting with you, looking ahead to this initial appearance, kim potter over zoom, what should we expect to see? >> part of this is just a formality. the judge will advise kim potter of the charges against her. the judge also will advise potter of her rights, her right to remain silent, her right to hire an attorney, her right to a trial by jury. the two interesting things i'm going to be watching for in the next few hours and days, one, will the prosecutors look to add or upgrade charges? that happened in the derek chauvin case. he was initially charged with third-degree murder and this same manslaughter charge against potter here and a few days later, prosecutors added a more serious second-degree murder charge here and will there be signs or indications of whether
potter is open to a guilty plea or whether the prosecutors are willing to give her a guilty plea? >> schchief, to you. the walls being added in this community, you know, tensions are high. just lift the veil for us. what is happening at the brooklyn center police department right now and with other officers involved and just as a reminder, former officer potter is out on bail. >> well, i mean, i'm sure they're preparing for more demonstrations tonight in addition to that. they've got to have an eye on the chauvin trial, because again, that could impact them there in brooklyn, so i'm sure there's a lot of preparation. i'm sure that there's a lot of assistance coming from the state and other surrounding jurisdictions. so, that's pretty much what they're doing right now is just preparing for whatever may come their way in terms of additional protests, although i was glad to see that yesterday's protest, they didn't have quite as many people as they had the night before, after she was charged. >> let's go back to the body cam
video where you hear then officer potter, you know, shouting as she was trained to do, taser, taser, taser. and eli, i want you to reiterate your point that something can be accidental, but negligent at the same time. right? >> yes, absolutely. so, that's right. even if this was an accident, brooke, and that's not determined conclusively, but there is some indication on the body cam video that this was accidental, it can still be what we call culpably negligent under the law. that's the manslaughter charge that this officer, former officer, is faced with. so the example is, if somebody were to be severely impaired, alcohol or otherwise, and get behind the wheel of a car and then god forbid hit somebody and hurt that person, that would be an accident. the person didn't intend to hit and injure or kill the person. however, to get behind the wheel in a severely impaired condition is, i believe, clearly to take a culpable risk, to take an unacceptable risk, what we call culpable negligence so something
can be accidental and also culpably negligent. >> and also, when you, chief, you know, one of the family members of daunte wright, it was such a powerful visual, was holding up what a taser looks like versus a firearm and when you think of tasers, they're either bright yellow or have a bright yellow handle, as you pointed out, officers are supposed to be wearing on them their nondominant hip. there is training on how to differentiate between a taser and a firearm, but clearly, that wasn't enough. what do you think needs to change? if a 26-year veteran officer does this. hang on one second. the mother of daunte wright is speaking. let's listen . >> talk about -- do you want to talk about who your child was? who daunte was? talk about who daunte was. >> do you want to -- >> okay.
>> his sister will talk about her brother, daunte. this is a little sister, destiny. just tell them who your brother was. take your time. >> my brother, he was the most delightful person i have ever met, like, you can -- he was just -- he was everything. everything. his smile, his jokes, his everything about him. and she took that from us. and i'm very disappointed. very disappointed. >> anybody else? >> okay. we have an uncle who wants to say something. the family has started a
gofundme account if people want to help. it's -- and i have given it. >> gofundme.com/dauntewright. >> it's going to be on thursday at 12:00 noon, central standard time. at this church. >> mr. crump -- >> reverend al sharpton will deliver the eulogy. >> can you tell us -- >> i'm sorry? >> his sister's name? >> destiny. you want to say your whole name? >> we wanted to listen back and forth to the sister, the mother. but the point about, it sounds like the funeral is set for next thursday. but chief, back to you. i saw, you know, ben crump had the photo of the yellow taser. if a 26-year police veteran can do this, do you think something needs to change? >> well, i mean, the training right now for taser is pretty intensive. it really is. i don't know what else can be
done. after the oscar grant shooting back in 2009 in oakland, that's when departments really switched toward -- a couple things. one, moving toward the brightly-colored tasers and also carrying them on the opposite side from your firearm. in a cross-draw type fashion so that you couldn't really make a mistake. having both weapons on the same side. but they look different. they feel different. different weights. so, i don't know how she wound up doing that. maybe it was the stress of the moment. this is a small department. i don't know how often they're confronted with stressful situations. not trying to make an excuse for her, but i have no idea. but it was negligent, and there's no excuse for it. it should not have happened. there were numerous tactical errors too, by the way, that really set up the scenario when they first too many him out of the car, instead of walking him to the back, trying to handcuff him right next to the driver's door. well, it became very tempting
for someone to try to jump back in and pull off. they didn't turn off the ignition once he was out of the car. so, there were several things that happened that need correcting, believe me, and should not have happened and all that led up to the shooting but the shooting should never have happened. >> i appreciate you pointing all of that out, and eli, do you think there's any chance that a plea deal could be struck in this case? >> brooke, the vast majority of all criminal cases do end up pleading guilty and not going to trial. however, in this case, if i'm the prosecutor, i'm absolutely not accepting any guilty plea that does not include jail. i don't think the public would accept that. i think the public expects this former officer spend some time in jail. it's also, conversely, a really big deal for a former police officer to agree to a sentence, to agree to a plea that will send her to jail, so i don't see a lot of common ground at this point for a potential plea. i think we could well see a trial here. >> okay. eli, commissioner, stay with me. i want to talk about the other
big trial happening now, big day in the trial of former police officer derek chauvin. the prosecution and defense have both rested and the judge gives a mistrial warning earlier today over a prosecution witness. we have to talk about that. also, a heated exchange at a house subcommittee meeting between congressman jim jordan and dr. anthony fauci. >> what measure -- what standard, what objective outcome do we have to reach before americans get their liberty and freedoms back? >> you know, you're indicating liberty and freedom. i look at it as a public health measure to prevent people from dying and going to the hospital. also, the biden administration getting tough on russia. they say the u.s. now faces a, quote, national emergency. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. we'll be right back. u packed ye? our flight is early tomorrow. and it's a long flight too. once we get there, we will need... buttercup! ♪
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welcome back. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. reminder, we are standing by for the very first court appearance of kimberly potter. that should begin about 15 minutes from now. she is the former police officer, 26-year veteran police officer, brooklyn center, minnesota, she is charged in sunday's shooting death of daunte wright during that traffic stop. she is charged with second-degree manslaughter and is kcurrently out on bail. brooklyn center police say she shot wright when she grabbed her firearm instead of her taser and we'll bring you all the details from that zoom appearance as soon as we get them but i want to get us now to the derek chauvin murder trial. the prosecution and the defense now have officially rested, but not before chauvin himself, the former minneapolis police officer, charged in the death of george floyd, decided to invoke his fifth amendment right, choosing not to testify.
joining me now, cnn's josh campbell outside of the courthouse, and josh, i mean, i know they all come back into that courtroom on monday. but this weekend, that jury has a whole lot to process. >> reporter: they certainly do, and after hearing from so many different witnesses, it's clear that members of this jury are hearing competing theories of this case. we heard from a number of prosecution witnesses, very damning testimony from medical experts saying that the cause of death in this case was the action of that officer, derek chauvin, on george floyd. they also heard from police use of force experts, talking about what they saw on that video was not within department policy and of course when the defense got their opportunity, it was a complete 180. they were trying to bring up additional theories about what may have happened, everything from possible drug use by george floyd to heart disease to this idea that maybe this idling police car, exhaust was at play. as you say, a lot to think about here.
we're expecting closing arguments to take place on monday. now, today, also, we heard derek chauvin, his own voice. he was asked by the judge in a series of questions and questioned by his own lawyer about whether he wanted to actually testify in this trial. take a listen to what he said. >> i have advised you, and we have gone back and forth on the matter would be kind of an understatement, right? >> yes, it is. >> but after a lengthy meeting last night, we had some further discussion, agreed? >> correct. >> and have you made a decision today whether you intend to testify or whether you intend to invoke your fifth amendment privilege? >> i will invoke my fifth amendment privilege today. >> all right. >> mr. chauvin, i'm going to ask you directly, because the decision whether or not to testify -- let me take this off -- is entirely yours. in other words, it's a personal
right. mr. nelson makes a lot of the decisions in trial, but one he can not make for you is whether or not you testify, and he can give you advice, and you can take that advice or reject that advice. but the decision ultimately has to be yours and not his. is this your decision not to testify? >> it is, your honor. >> reporter: now, we are finished with all the witnesses in this case, and the jury will not be hearing from derek chauvin. we expect closing arguments from both the prosecution and the defense to take place on monday. then, the jury will be sequestered for the duration of their deliberation, and of course we never know how long juries will take. we don't know what that dynamic will be inside the room. how many questions they will have, and whether all of them will unanimously come to some type of decision. it's interesting, though, the last thing that they heard from the judge before they went on the weekend recess is the judge said that next week, you will have to pack a suitcase as you are sequestered. if you're wondering about how long it's going to take, plan
for long, hope for short. brooke? >> josh, thank you. back with me, eli honig and commissioner ramsey, and so eli, just first to you, you know, closing arguments monday. who do you think has presented the strongest case? >> i think the prosecution has to be very happy with how their case has come in so far. if you divide it into the three major components, you had your eye-witnesses and videos. there's no dispute about what happened on the street that day. then, the use of force. highlighted by the police chief, other senior members of the minneapolis pd made very clear that chauvin's actions were unacceptable, abusive, excessive. and then finally, the medical causation, we heard from four or five medical experts who said, of course, derek chauvin's actions were a major cause. the only thing i want people to keep in mind, though, is, a, you never know what a jury's going to do. a jury is just 12 human beings. they are unpredictable. and b, this is not like an athletic contest where it's, who scored more points? because the prosecution always bears that burden of proving its case beyond a reasonable doubt. that's the standard here.
>> chief, what do you make of chauvin not testifying? >> well, i mean, i think he made the right decision for himself. he would have been ripped to shreds on cross-examination by the prosecution. i mean, they demonstrated for the last two weeks their skill at questioning witnesses on cross-examination. he would have opened himself up not only for this incident but for other issues in his background. so, from his point of view, i don't see what he could have gained from testifying, because how do you justify his actions? i mean, 9 minutes and 29 second on a guy who's not resisting? if this had been a short duration, something that occurred rapidly, where you can start the splint-second decision type thing or even a minute or two of wrestling with an individual, this -- not the case here. and you just can't justify it. and so, he's better off not testifying. although, prosecution probably wished he would because they
would give him a good opportunity there. but you know, someone asked me earlier, is chauvin worried? i would imagine so, but there are three other officers that were at the scene that day that should be worried as well. >> appreciate that point. eli, let's go back to the big moment today when the prosecution tried to admit this new evidence about the level of carbon monoxide in george floyd's blood and remember the defense's expert witness yesterday suggested it was the exhaust from the police car, the squad car right there, that played a role in his death. and the judge allowed the prosecution to bring back d dr. tobin, but he said, quote, if he even hints that there are test results that the jury has not heard of, it's going to be a mistrial. big moment. explain this to the viewers. >> yeah, so, the bottom line point here is, there are no surprises at trial. more specifically, the prosecution does not get to surprise the defendant at trial. you have an obligation as a prosecutor to turn over to the defendant all of your evidence in advance, so they can know
what's coming, so they can prepare for it. we heard the testimony yesterday about the carbon monoxide. the prosecution today said, actually, we've recently tested george floyd's blood or it's re recently been retested and it conclusively disproves the carbon monoxide theory. the judge said, too bad, too late, you should have done that long ago, the defendant should have known about this long ago. you can't spring it on them now. instead, the judge allowed them to recall dr. tobin who gave still effective testimony. he said, in my opinion, it's very unlikely. that's not as good as a blood test but that's an important feature of our trial process here. no surprises for the defendant. >> kbcommissioner, have you eve heard of someone suffering from carbon monoxide after being arrested near a squad car? >> i haven't. i mean, the only time -- and i was in homicide for a while, obviously, with suicides, that's something that occurs or accidental, you know, people in a house, you know, with a faulty
furnace or something. but as far as during an arrest, normally a person's not even on the ground long enough to have any kind of effect from carbon monoxide. so, this is highly unusual. the it impossible? nothing's impossible. i've not heard of it. >> eli, quickly, closing arguments beginning monday. what do you expect? >> if you're the prosecution, you have to bring the jury back. time moves very slowly in trial. this case is only two and a half weeks old but it feels like it started six months ago. you have to bring that jury back to that street, to those witnesses, to those videos. common sense. if you're the prosecution, you're saying, you, members of the jury, can and must use your common sense here. that's what it all comes down to. >> and then last question, again to you, what's the rough rule of thumb in terms of expecting a verdict? >> i chuckle because i've seen juries come back in 45 minutes with a verdict, and i've seen juries go two weeks without a verdict. so, there's no way to tell. i'm guessing, if i had to guess,
we'll see a verdict by the end of next week. >> all right. eli, commissioner, thank you so much. coming up here, congressman jim jordan is on the attack today, berating dr. anthony fauci in his house hearing on covid. we will show you what happened when congresswoman maxine waters stepped up to shut it down.
johnson & johnson's covid vaccine is in limbo today after if t cdc advisors declined to vote on its future use in the united states. use of that vaccine will remain paused while researchers just gather more data. elizabeth cohen is our cnn senior medical correspondent, and elizabeth, for people who have taken j&j, what happens now? >> if you've taken j&j in the past three weeks, brooke, there are certain things that you can look for. i want to emphasize how incredibly unlikely it would be that you would have a blood clot from this vaccine. the number of events has been so low. but if you've had that vaccine in the past three weeks and you develop a severe headache or if you develop other problems such as severe leg pain or severe abdominal pain, you should go and talk to your doctor. again, these numbers are very low, but doctors do want people to know that they should be on the lookout for these symptoms, and as you said, the cdc advisory committee is going to
be thinking, you know, once we get a little more data, can we make a recommendation? can we say let's put a warning on this vaccine? let people know that sometimes these blood clots happen, rarely, but they happen. or do we want to say, you know what, we're finding, for example, young women are the group that are mostly affected. don't get this if you're female and under the age of 50. they're going to need to sort this out. i think they were hoping for more time but there's a lot of pressure for them to figure this out more quickly. brooke? >> and now we have news, breaking, literally minutes ago, the ceo of pfizer is saying that people will likely need a third vaccine booster dose. they're saying maybe 6 to 12 months after the first round of shots. was this expected? >> actually, this was expected, and actually, i think this is really good news, brooke. the issue with all of these vaccines is that at the time that they were made, they didn't take into account the so-called south african variant, because, well, it didn't exist, and so while the vaccines protect against it, they don't do a great job of protecting against
it. they don't protect against the south african variant as well as they do against the kind of corona that was there before. so this vaccine is supposed -- this booster is supposed to help protect against the south african variant. that's really important, because while it hasn't taken ahold very much in the united states, it's really taken ahold in south africa. the concerns are that it could take ahold in other parts of the world as well. so, yes, does it sound like a pain to get another shot both physically and logistically? yes. on the other hand, if it's going to protect you from this terrible variant, that would be great. >> i'm in. note to self, get the third booster. i want to take everyone to capitol hill. got a little testy moment ago when republican congressman jim jordan essentially berated dr. anthony fauci for not giving an exact date for when this pandemic will end. everyone watch. >> we had 15 days to slow the spread, turned into one year of lost liberty. what metrics, what measures, what has to happen before americans get their freedoms back? >> my message, congressman
jordan, is to get as many people vaccinated as quickly as we possibly can. to get the level of infection in this country low that it is no longer a threat. that is when. and i believe when that happens, you will see -- >> what determines when? >> i'm sorry. >> what? what measure? i mean, are we just going to continue this forever? when does -- when do we get to the point? what measure, what standard, what objectsive outcome do we have to reach before americans get their liberty and freedoms back? >> you know, you're indicating liberty and freedom. i look at it as a public health measure to prevent people from dying and going to the hospital. >> you don't think americans' liberties have been threatened the last year, dr. fauci? they've been assaulted. their liberties have. >> i don't look at this as a liberty thing, congressman jordan. >> well, that's obvious. >> as a public health thing. my recommendations are not a personal recommendation. it's based on the cdc guidance,
which is -- >> and i'm asking a question. what measures have to be attained before americans get their first amendment liberties back? >> i just told you that. >> no, you haven't given anything specific. you said, we hope when this -- tell me specifically. >> right now, right now, we have about 60,000 infections a day, which is a very large risk for a surge. we're not talking about liberties. we're talking about a pandemic that has killed 560,000 americans. >> and i get that, doctor. i don't disagree with that and i understand how serious that is but i also understand it's pretty serious when businesses have been shut down, people can't go to church, people can't assemble in their own homes with friends and families. people can't go to a funeral. people can't get to their government, petition their representative. the first amendment is pretty darn important. i want to know when americans will get those first amendment liberties back. >> you just said people cannot assemble in their own homes. they can. that's a cdc recommendation
for -- >> not last call, they couldn't. >> i didn't hear that. >> not last fall they couldn't. what number do we get our liberties back? tell me the number. >> when 90% of the members of congress get vaccinated. >> you're not a doctor, mr. clyburn. >> thank you for recognizing me, mr. clyburn. >> the chair now recognizes for five minutes. >> reclaiming my time. reclaiming my time. regular order, regular order. >> just a moment. >> mr. chairman, mr. chairman, i don't want you to answer my question. the american people want dr. fauci to answer the question. >> well -- >> what does it have to be? >> time expired, sir. you need to respect the chair and shut your mouth. >> congresswoman maxine waters, of course, this is congressman jim jordan, but elizabeth, do you think americans are growing increasingly just impatient with the lack of clarity of when this whole thing is going to end? >> of course, but brooke, the reason why there's a lack of
clarity is because nobody has a crystal ball, nobody knows when it's going to end. and the more people who think like congressman jordan and think, you know, basically, i want to be able to do whatever i want, it's just going to get worse. if people could be disciplined and do things like wear masks and practice social distancing, then we would get the freedom that congressman jordan is describing. when there is a blizzard outside and police say, you know what, please don't go on the roads, it's too icy, too dangerous, are we taking away their liberties? no. there is a dangerous situation. there have been various measures that have been put in place. and to some extent, because people have not listened, we have had to continue with this. if people would listen and if we could buckle down and get this under control, then everything could go back to normal much more quickly and that includes, of course, getting a vaccine. >> right. right. elizabeth, thank you. coming up here on cnn, president biden responds to russia's attacks on the u.s.,
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the biden administration has imposed sweeping economic sanctions against russia in response to the country's massive solar wind cyberattack. its attempt at 2020 election interference and its continued occupation of the crimea region of ukraine. the u.s. is also expelling ten russian diplomats from the united states. kiley atwood is live at the state department, and this -- this isn't the first round of sanctions this administration has applied on russia, but explain for us what this latest round will actually mean for both countries. >> reporter: this round of sanctions is really widespread, right, brooke, it goes after russia's malign activity in not just one area but multiple areas where they have undermined the united states, election interference efforts, their
solar wind hack efforts, they impacted u.s. government agencies and private companies here in the united states so this is a broad spectrum of sanctions and actions that the u.s. government is taking here, and i think it's important to note that the biden administration has said that their effort here is not to escalate things. of course, they are seeking, they say, to have a stable and predictable relationship with russia. now, of course, president biden spoke with president putin earlier this week and in an interesting part of that conversation, is that he told president putin what was coming this week. he said, you know, maybe not in a detailed fashion, but he said that there were going to be actions that were taken later in the week and he also proposed a summit between the two leaders. now, of course, what happens next is sort of in the hands of russia, quite frankly, because russia is the one who is now saying that the united states will pay a price, and they said that a response is inevitable here, so the ultimate reality about what happens next is how
russia responds here, and one of the things that the united states did, i want to point out, is expel ten russian officials, essentially people that the u.s. deems to be spies and they are going to be -- have to go back to russia. that's an area where russia is highly likely to retaliate. we've seen this happen before. but we should also note the biden administration says they don't want to escalate, but they also are preparing to do more if they need to, and particularly when it comes to this area of economic effort to go after russia. there is more that the biden administration can do with this economic -- with this executive order that president biden signed today and the administration has made that very clear if russia continues with more efforts against the united states and its allies. >> to your point, though, we will watch for the russian response to all of this. kylie atwood, thank you. an anxious community in chicago this afternoon as they prepare for the release of another police shooting video.
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things are moving. these checks are providing a heck of a lot of need and relief for families, and in turn it is support for our economic recovery, and the news comes on top of the recent news that we created 900,000 jobs in the month of march, and first two months of our administration we created more jobs than the first two months of any other administration, and it's because of you guys, and you fought like the devil to get that package passed, you did. and we still have a long way to go. we are 8 million jobs down from what it was more than before the pandemic began, but america's coming back. with regard to -- i want to express my gratitude to a group we had here today from the house, representing this caucus,
which represents vital communities and very diverse communities within the native american -- excuse me, native h hawaiian and pacific island communities, and it's -- we need to stand with the aapi community and the whole government response with what we have to get done. when i came into office the first bill i signed related to racial equity throughout the government, and that's still the plan and that's my objective and kamala harris and i are overwhelmed by the bipartisan package yesterday, and it was really close. walked away with 98 votes.
>> i thought it was going to pass, but my lord, i will tell you, and we took a vote here at the administration, and you are doing a hell of a job, bill, and i am looking forward to a discussion with the caucus and i want to thank you all for being here and thank you for coming, members of the press. folks, i will be speaking to russia and my conversation with vladimir putin shortly after this meeting is over and you will be notified of that and i will be happy to talk to you then, okay? >> thank you. thank you. >> aloha. >> i was just talking to kylie about the latest rounds of sanctions against russia and the president and vice president sitting with asian-americans
members of congress because of the disgusting attacks on the asian community for too long, for the better part of this pandemic. we'll watch that. and kevin mccarthy sidestepped a number of questions from cnn on whether he had been warned about congressman matt gaetz conduct. and gaetz is under investigation for allegations for sex trafficking and prosecution, and manu raju was the one asking mccarthy those questions earlier and he's joining me now from the hill. manu, what happened when you tried to press him s? >> he said he was not aware of the allegations that have come out in the last couple of weeks, the sex trafficking allegations with a 17-year-old girl and gaetz has denied that, and he said he didn't know about that, and i asked him if he was
concerned with other things when gaetz first came into office in 2017. around that time we learned -- cnn did, that matt gaetz was showing nude photos of women he allegedly slept with other members of congress, on the floor of the house of representatives. we heard speaker paul ryan, the speaker at the time, he had spoken to gaetz about his conduct, and not a specific incident but his conduct and i tried to ask mccarthy if he was aware about any concerns about gaetz' conduct about anytime he came into office. >> when i was in the majority i was not part of the discussion, and i was not part of that and a lot of times they have privacy and i did not know that until i read it in the article. >> there is no flags that is
caused -- >> i did not know that conversation -- i didn't know what that conversation was about, just what i read in the paper. >> do you have any concerns about matt gaetz? >> not now. >> his denying not knowing whether there was a conversation with paul ryan's staff and gaetz, and his denial raises other questions as well here, but also at that time press conference he made clear that he did speak to matt gaetz in recent days about the allegations and gaetz maintained his innocence, and he indicated he would not take steps to remove matt gaetz from the
committees, and he's battling the allegations and kevin mccarthy said he did not know about the allegations out there right now. >> right now. >> manu, thank you, and good to have you on. thank you for asking the tough questions. our breaking news coverage continues this afternoon. the former police officer charged with shooting daunte wright and the officer is set to make her first court appearance. stay tuned for that. [sfx: psst psst] allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst! psst! all good with visible, you get unlimited data for as little as $25 a month. but when you bring a friend, you get a month for $5.
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course we are still in a pandemic. on sunday according to police potter grabbed her gun instead of her taser and shot wright a. 20-year-old father, during a traffic stop, shot and killed him. court documents showed police tried to arrest wright and wright pulled away jumping into the driver's seat and fired. a prosecuteser has charged potter with second degree manslaughter and that could get upgraded. kimberly anne potter caused the death of wright whereby she created an unreasonable risk and consciously took a risk of causing death or great bodily harm to daunte wright. before you give us the latest on this zoom hearing, it's my understandin