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kentucky worked her way up in a male-dominated industry. her daughter said her mother was a true success story who taught her generosity and kindness, may they rest in peace. up next, breaking news, multiple cities on ethic edge of fatal shootings. in chicago police release body cam video of a 13-year-old teen shot and killed by police. police say the teen was holding a handgun at the time of the shooting. the family's attorney is dedisdis -- disputing that. >> and we hear from fauci, ahead. >> good evening
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out front tonight two cities on edge in the u.s., brooklyn center, minnesota, bracing for a fifth night of unrest as former police officer accused of killing a 20-year-old black man made her first court appearance. in chicago police body cam video is released killing a teen, warning, this is very difficult to watch. >> stop! [ bleep ], show me your [ bleep ] hands. stop! drop it! shots fired, get an ambulance up now. >> we'll have much more on that developing story later in the show i want to start with brooklyn center. officer kim potter made her first appearance before a judge in zoom today she shot and killed a man on sunday. mistook a gun for a taser. former police chief also stepped down in the wake of this.
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her hearing lasted 4 minutes 30 seconds and she's charged with second degree manslaughter with max of 10 years in prison y507b or 20,000 fine. her mother wants 100% accountability because she says there is no justice. >> everybody keeps saying justice, but unfortunately there's never gonna be justice for us. the justice would bring our son home to us knocking on the door with his big smile coming in the house. sitting down eating dinner with us, going out to lunch, playing with his one-year-old, almost two-year-old son giving him a kiss before he walks out the door. so justice isn't even a word to me. i do want accountability. 100% accountability. >> also announcing today wright's funeral will be next thursday. the city is on edge after four nights of protests, officials
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say there were 24 arrests last night more than 140 total since the protest began, the majority were not local residents. now in brooklyn center where she's been covering this since the beginning. what's the latest you are seeing tonight as you have been there every night as crowds have gathered. >> i can tell you folks from the community are remixing their form of protesting. earlier today this chain link fence went up, it's a way to keep them back but instead of chanting and playing music they're hanging car hair fresh owners like the one you see here. you will remember dante wright called his mother and told his mother he was pulled over because he had air fresh owners hanging from his rearview mirror, the officer who shot and killed him spent time in court via zoom. >> tonight former police officer
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kim potter making her first court appearance, the 48-year-old officer who wore a plaid shirt spoke once when asked yes i am when asked if she was present. the hearing lasted less than five minutes with potter scheduled to be back in court next month. she is out of jail after posting bond. >> danger, danger, danger. holity -- i just shot him. >> potter faces a second-degree manslaughter charge for shooting dante white house on sunday while she hasn't told her side of the story, the brooklyn police chief before he resigned said he believed the shooting was accidental with potter pulling the gun instead of a taser by mistake. >> can we get a conviction? can we get something? manslaughter?
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y'all see the difference? this is a taser. this is a taser. but, no, my nephew was killed with this, a glock! >> while potter was in court writes families and one of their attorneys was in church using this pulpit to push for accountability. >> we're still going to bury our son. we're still never going to be able to see our baby boy that we're never gonna have again. so when people say justice, i just shake my head. >> so it's very difficult for this family to accept. that this is an accident when you have a veteran who has been on the police force for 26 years. >> with protests continuing for
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a fourth straight night officials brought in new concrete barriers outside the brooklyn center police station. the site of many protests. >> we're thankful tonight the tension and anxiety and stress seem to be lower even though emotions are still high. >> according to police about 24 people were arrested. the majority don't live in brooklyn center. >> we will stop violence and criminal activity. we will not abandon the sit s. city and citizens of brooklyn center. >> meanwhile, many of the protesters here tonight say this barrier is a representation of keeping them away. they are trying to break down other bear easier, invsalignible barriers, they want to push for equity and equality. tonight they've also plastered a sign on the fence that says bring more charges against kim
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potter. and in bold, black letters it says murder charges. next week daunte wright's family will lay him to wrest, the funeral will take place in minneapolis at new salem missionary baptist church. >> thank you for your reporting now to a criminal defense and civil rights attorney who represented rodney king along with former mayor of baltimore and former defense attorney. so you heard adrian's reporting at the end when she talked about what she's seeing there, right, there's these signs, bring more charges, murder. is likely prosecutors will upgrade the charges from second-degree man 14r5u9er -- manslaughter like in derek chauvin's case or not? >> i doubt it, in large part because of the statements made at the time clearly indicated she intended to use the taser,
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as a consequence that's the mental state, so for prosecute y to evaluate her conduct is not only what she did but herrera -- her mental state at the time. to me it is negligence on her part. we seen it in another case the officer was charged with murder of the second degree but in injure -- the jury found him charged with involuntary manslaughter so they will have to suggest it was a mental state that suggested it was not negligence but unfortunately her statements suggest otherwise so i doubt additional charges would be filed in the case, even though i understand the human interest, it's still a question, what can you prove. in this case best they can prove is involuntary manslaughter.
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>> is possible we could see a plea deal in this case, you've been defense attorney, would it be hard for the community to accept that. >> it would be hard for the community to accept a plea deal without something else, they'd need to see from the police department and mayor that there will be real changes in the way policing is done in brooklyn center. there's no reason why a taser or gun is pulled for an air fresh owen -- freshener or for an expired tag. there's no reason. so the plea would have to be substantial for the community to accept it. >> i want to play again something wright's aunt said as she held up the two pictures, one a glock, one a taser, let me play this moment again for you. >> y'all see the difference. this is a taser.
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this is a taser. but no, my nephew was killed with this. a glock. >> and so the family's attorney ben crump we heard him say it's very difficult for the family to accept this is an accident when you have a veteran who has been on the police force for 26 years. they're emphasizing her experience on the force as a reason they're unable to accept this was accidental. you mention the case of oscar grant which of course you were involved in, the 22-year-old black lady shot by officer in the fruitville station in california and the jury willing to accept the officer meant to fire his taser. when you look at her state of mind, it was clear she was talking about firing her taser and meant to fire her taser, how important will her 26-year experience be in proving
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otherwise. >> experience obviously counts, the question is how much experience has she actually had using the taser. not all officers had that kind of experience. end of the day, the relevant question will be regardless of our experience what was her state of mind, what did she intend to do. she could have 26 years of experience never having dealt with the taser or one year, it doesn't matter, if she made the state at that point in time it's the mental state and she announced taser, taser, taser and the impression is her mental state was to use the taser. i'm not excusing but that's the facts. i understand why the community is very, very upset about it because there's a huge difference between a clock and a taser so i get it. >> as the picture shows. you are saying the community needs more, they need to understand there will be no situation to justify using a
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taser for air freshener or expired tags, whatever it had been, the officer did know, because they ran wright's lesson, that he had an outstanding warrant for weapons charge, will it help in the eyes of the jury that perhaps it made her more afraid or likely to reach for that, unfortunately, gun. >> no, i don't think that that would matter. i mean, again, it was an outstanding warrant for a weapons charge when he does not have a weapon on him. they had his name, his address, the car they know he's driving. these are things that, you know, if he were to drive away they know where to get him. he was not -- the level of threat doesn't re using deadly force. >> as i mentioned earlier we have developing story in chicago
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where video shows an officer-involved shooting of a 13-year-old boy adam toledo he was shot after getting a call of shots fired call. after chasing the teen, within seconds, police say toledo had a gun in his hand. warning, the video is disturbing and difficult to watch. ryan young is in chicago covering this. ryan, this video coming to light. the may y50r and familiar -- mayor or and familiar -- mayor and family calling for calm. tell us what you know. >> there's a lot of tension all around the city they've prepositioned large pieces of equipment to make sure if there is any sort of protest they can protect structures because obviously last summer we had very violent protests in the city. at first it seemed the city and family had a joint statement
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about what was going on but since the video has been released the family is fired up, they see something different than what cops said. >> show me your [ bleep ] hands. stop. >> these two seconds have the city on edge after officials release this body-cam video of the shooting death of 13-year-old adam toledo by chicago police officer who is yelling commands for the 13-year-old to stop running and show hands. we slow down the video to show you what police say is a gun in the teen's hands. a few seconds later the shooting plays out and less than a second passes between when the teen turns and the officer fires. on thursday the attorney reports the teen had a gun in his hand when he was shot. >> this is why i want to be especially clear right now that that child complied with the officer's request, dropped the gun, turned around, the officer saw his hands were up and pulled the trigger. >> on march 29th police
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responded to the location on the city's west side after shot spotter technology alerted them to more than half dozen gunshots. video on thursday appears to show a male shooting towards a car and chicago police officer arrives a foot chase ensues. >> no parent should ever have a video broadcast widely of their child's last moments. much less be placed in a terrible situation of losing their child in the first place. >> by head the video's released thursday afternoon by the civil office of police accountability an emotional mayor lori lightfoot calling for the city to remain calm. >> even as our understanding of this incident continues to evolve this remains a complicated and nuance story and we all must proceed with deep empathy and calm and importantly, peace. >> and in a joint statement with
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the city the boy's family also calling on the city to remain peaceful in a statement released through the attorney saying the experience was extremely difficult and heartbreaking for everyone present, especially for adam's family. adam's memory can be bheft honored by -- best honored by refraining from violence and working constructively for reform. >> let's be clear here, the city of chicago police's department has had a strained relationship with communities of color for years and this has gone back-and-forth with the mistrust in the community for the police department. this is really tearing at that wound in this city. because there are people who watch that video and don't believe that it lined up the way police say it does but when you look at how the police department presented it, it said basically the officer had a split-second decision and knew he was responding to a shots fired call, he saw the weapon in the young man's hand and felt
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like he had to fire. as soon as the shot was fired he ran over to render aid. there are a lot of questions tonight about how this was handled. wee -- we'll see if there will be large-scale protests or not. >> now to former detroit police chief and former deputy mayor of detroit. chief mackinnon, look this is very disturbing individeo but extremely video. officers were responding to an alert for shots fired. they show up on the scene and encounter adam toledo 13-year-old who police told to drop the gun and he did that and they shot him anyway what do you see in the video? . >> i have viewed the video a number of times. it's troubling, the reality is
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shows how difficult it is for anyone particularly law enforcement officers, in those situations. i saw the officer chasing this person and i heard him yell at the man to drop the gun. the person dropped the gun. and i saw him turn. that's a split-second decision that has to be made by the officer. and unfortunately, it was not a wise thing to do, number one, to have a weapon, but number two, you know, when you make those kinds of decisions to make those moves the officer has a right to protect him or herselves. >> and does it add up to you, chief, they say split-second decision you could be talking at such a split second that a trigger could be pulled before someone registered that a gun was dropped. when you see this and see how the officer behaved afterwards,
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right, calling for help immediately, trying to get an ambulance, does the police version of this add up to you? all in? it sounds like it does. >> yeah, the follow up by the officer was above and beyond. but let me tell you, i can recall a situation a number of years ago when i stopped a young man who had a weapon and i told hi. to drop the gun, it was a toy gun. you don't know that. i didn't shoot the young man but the fact is i could have. now i'm not trying to justify anything other than the fact these are heroing situations and split-second decisions and i listened to the officer or whoever was with him who were trying to save this young boy after the situation, it doesn't make it better in terms of losing one's life but the reality is this is -- had is one of those situations where we don't want
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to happen. everyone wants to go home to their families. >> right, right. and you can understand it. john, let me ask you, you know, police release an edited video of what happened with an arrow pointing to what they say is the gun in adam toledo 's hand and camera shows the gun near his body after the shooting. but the lawyers are insisting he didn't have a gun in his hand when he was shot. let's hear what she said. >> the officer said show me your hands. he complied. he turned around. you're shooting an unarmed child with his hands in the air it's an assassination. >> that's a pretty incredible thing to say. so when you look at that, john, and you see this, having been involve in defense cases, did this look like shooting an unarmed child-like an
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assassination? >> it's a close, close question. when i look at something like this, i want to know about the police officers tactics. did you rush into the situation where you didn't allow yourself to be in a position of cover, therefore you didn't have the realtime necessary to assess the situation and then shoot or don't shoot. here's a situation by putting himself in that position he wasn't in position to really properly assess whether the child was in fact dropping the weapon or turning around. that's the part i see as dangerous from the police point of view. they really shouldn't have chased this kid in the way they did without making sure they had a position of cover so the kid would be in position to comply. here whether he complied or not he had no chance, that's most devastate, the kid didn't have a chance. others say if he had a gun he tossed the gun. if the cop was in a position of safety he could have observed that opposed to exercising a
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split-second decision because he perceived the kid was turning s around that's the real problem, didn't give himself an opportunity to assess the situation properly. >> chief, it's a dark alley, at night, they get a call for shots fired, they show up, chasing what turns out to be a very young boy, boy turns around the officer yells to stop. the whole thing goes down so quickly. tell me what goes through an officer's mind during a situation like this. >> you know, this is one of those situations that we talked about and discuss for some time. i've chased people i've been shot at eight times. thank god they missed but the reality is it's a split-seconddecisio decision
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as a law enforcement officer you're there to serve and protect. in all of the cases i've been involved in, i don't use that term when it will is this kind of situation that occurred. it was an officer chasing someone who had a gun. and he told the person to drop the gun and the person made a turn towards him with the gun. he didn't toss the gun based on what i saw. it's unfortunate that this decision was made to have a gun, first of all, and number two, to get into a with an officer who used fatal force. >> i appreciate both of you very much. john, chief, thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and next, security preps under way across the country in anticipation of the verdict in
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across the country are preparing for possible unrest with the potential verdict just days away in derek chauvin's murderer. these are live pictures out of brooklyn center right now where dante wright was shot and killed just ten miles from where derek chauvin's trial is taking place, as i said that verdict is just days away, possibly. razor wire has been installed around all five police precinct in minneapolis. d.c. metro police will be active starting monday. mayor of new york city having constant conversations to prepare. omar jimenez is out front, emotions are high where you are in minneapolis and across the country as we near the end of this trial. >> that's right. to put it simply this is a very tense minneapolis area when you look at what happened with dante wright and of course as the chauvin trial starts to wrap up we're outside the police
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department for fifth night of demonstration, people want their presence known in the name of wright and miles away in the chauvin trial the defense and prosecution rested their cases. while we heard testimony today we learned jurors will never hear from derek chauvin and hear him testify in defense of his own case because earlier today he officially pleaded the fifth amendment. what we did hear today was the return of the doctor who initially testified for the prosecution. he was brought back as a rebuttal to the suggestions that came up during testimony yesterday that cause of george floyd's death could have been related to carbon monoxide and specifically pointed to a blood oxygen saturation report saying george floyd's level were at 98%
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when he died. here's how that translated for the jurors in the courtroom today. >> does that tell us anything whatsoever about what the carbon monoxide content could have been at a maximum? >> yes, it does. it tells us that if the hemo globin is saturated at 98%, everything else is 2% so the maximum amount of carbon monoxide would be 2%. >> and what's interesting about that is that we were actually a few words away from a mistrial in this. even after coming all this way because there is a separate report about a blood gas level that the defense did not know about. it was only disclosed to them last minute, last night. their expert witness had already left town and the judge was very angry about it today saying if that witness brought up that new blood gas report at all today he
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would have dis declared a mistrial. so the questions was very precise. it didn't happen. and now closing statements are set for monday. of course the preparation of a moment of a verdict that will come later after that and the run up to what has been, again, a very, very tense time in the minneapolis area for almost a year now. >> omar, thank you very much. i want to go to the attorney for the floyd family and also the family of dante wright. so, tony, you know, omar laying out the drama that went to court today prosecutors got new evidence from the medical examiner last night showing george floyd's carbon monoxide levels were normal and judge refused to show it to the jury. they didn't bring it up last week when the medical examiner testified. making this so close to a mistrial. does it concern you that the
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per prosecution could miss something like ha to raise doubt like this to raise doubt. >> i don't think they missed anything that the jury hasn't captured. what the defense has been trying to do this whole case is negate the obvious. the default video remains the video -- this issue about the cashrbon monoxide and the 98% saturation of hemoglobin and 2% carbon monoxide i think though close the door on that issue. >> today, derek chauvin declined to testify in his defense. here's that moment. >> i have advised you and we have gone back-and-forth on the manner, would be kind of an
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under statement right. >> yes it is. >> have you made a decision today whether you intend to testify or whether you intend to invoke your fifth amount privilege. >> uh, i will invoke my fifth amendment privilege today. >> they went back-and-forth and sounded like derek chauvin wanted to tell his side of the story but he acquiesce to his attorney's thoughts, it was not a good thing to do. would you have liked to see him take the stand? . >> we have to play two sides of the coin, would i loved to hear what he said, yes. should he have taken the stand? i think any attorney would have told him don't take the stand. i would have been licking my chops on that cross examination. i would have kept him on the stand for hours going through the video, second by second, asking did you relieve the pressure off his neck at this moment, what about the next
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moment, did you hear him say he couldn't breathe. it was way too much risk to put him on the stand. >> so tonight we're now bracing for a fifth night of protest in minneapolis the chauvin trial now colliding with the death of dante wright, you are representing the wright family as well. razor wire is around all five police precinct new york atlanta chicago also preparing. what is the floyd family's message to anybody who wants to go to the street and protest. and i say, no matter what the verdict is. >> well, first of all, i mean, the floyd family is not stopping anybody from protesting. they do want peaceful protesting. they've said once, they've said it forever, justice for george is justice for all. and so now we have to worry
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about justice for dante wright and adam toledo. i'm in chicago, we have to brace for that tonight. hopefully it will be peaceful here too. this nation is only talking about policing. we need to look at this concept, this issue, and really get serious about reform. but in the meantime, it is totally permissible to be out in those streets exercising your first amendment rights and freedom of speech. >> appreciate your time. thank you. >> and next, congressman jim jordan rips into dr. anthony fauci and maxine waters would have none of it. >> you need to respect the chair and shut your mouth. >> and biden lowering the boom on russia. serious new sanctions just unveiled today. >> we can't allow foreign power to interfere in our democratic process with impunimpunity.
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new tonight, quote, shut your mouth, end quote. democratic congress women's sending that coat from maxine waters to jim jordan after the fight with dr. anthony fauci about restrictions on the coronavirus pandemic. >> now is not the time to pull back on masking and physical distancing when is the time? when do americans get their freedom back? can you put your microphone, please. >> when we get the level of infection in this country low
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enough that it is not a really high -- >> what is low enough? give me a number. we had 15 days to slow the spread turned into one year of loss liberty, what measure, objective outcome do we have to reach before americans get their liberty and freedoms back. >> you know, you're indicating liberty and freedom i look at it as a public health machine y-- measure from people dieing. >> people's liberties have been assaulted. >> i don't look at this as a liberty thing congressman jordan. >> that's obvious. >> i look at it as a public health thing. i disagree with you. >> you think the constitution is suspended during a virus, during a pandemic? it's certainly not. >> this will end for sure when we get the level of infection very low. it is now at such a high level there's a threat again of major
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certainty -- >> dr. fauci, over the last year american's first amendment rights have been completely attacked, your right to go to church, to assemble to petition your government, freedom of speech all have been assaulted, governor of our third largest state meets with physicians and that -- that video is sensored because they dare to disagree with dr. fauci? so i want to know, when do americans get their first-amendment liberty's back. >> i think you're making this a personal thing and it isn't. >> it's not a personal thing. >> no, you are. that is exactly what you're coming. >> when it comes down, what number do we get our liberties back, tell me the number. >> 90% members of congress get vaccinated. >> you're not a doctor before clyburn he is. what is the number. >> thank you for recognizing me. >> chair now recognizes miss
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waterson. >> -- . >> reclaiming my time. order. regular order. >> just a moment. >> mr. chairman, the american people want dr. fauci to answer the question. >> your time has expired, sir. >> you need to respect the chair and shut your mouth. >> i mean, it's an incredible moment that that occurred. i of course have to state the obvious, dr. fauci never said he believes the constitution should be suspended. now the chief strategist for bush/cheney '04 presidential campaign. this is far from the first time we've seen republican try to beat up on dr. fauci. they love these moments we saw it from jim jordan today and rand paul not long ago. that's how it's been. why is the g.o.p. so obsessed with going after dr. fauci? >> well, i think this is fundamentally about the attack on science and data and if it
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doesn't agree from many of the g.o.p. perspective as science or data or knowledge or information doesn't agree with basically their emotional stand, they want to ignore it. and i think that's the problem, i think, dr. fauci has here, because dr. fauci is trying to take a rational approach against people who have an emotional place in this. the idea that this is about liberty and freedom that somehow wearing masks, i would ask jim jordan, does he wear a seatbelt? did he get his kids vaccinated when they went to school. all of these things have nothing to do with liberty or freedom but that's where we are when we have reason and rationality on one side and emotional reactions and ideology on the other. >> so, you mentioned masks, jim jordan usually doesn't wear his, although he did today and actually put it over his nose in the middle of his rant, however,
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republican senators ted cruz has stopped wearing a mask as he goes through the halls of the capitol or senate floor, he will not wear one any more. here's cruz defending his decision to ditch his match to cnn. >> at this point, i've been vaccinated. everyone working in the senate has been vaccinated. >> matthew, just to state the obvious many staff members in capitol have not been vaccinated coming on the same day pfizer says people will likely need a booster shot 6 to 12 months after vaccination and more boosters after that. there's a lot unsettling that we don't know. cdc saying people should still wear masks, what do you think of senator cruz's decision to blatantly flaunt it. >> and the other part of this is that the vaccines are not 100% effective and even if you or
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others have a vaccine in some people in some percentages of cases there is what we know we have to rely on to get to a certain level of vaccines that there is a certain percentage that you can still contract the virus. i think ted cruz along with our talking about jim jordan is a complete example they don't want to lead in this moment. they either repeat a lie and then tell their constituents a lie and their constituents repeat the lie back to them and then they say they're representing their constituents as opposed to leading. i would ask ted cruz this, granting all things stated about there's no guarantee on the vaccine being 100% doesn't he take it an obligation to show people correct behavior. it's not just about him or his staff or a friend of his, it's about him as a u.s. senator showing leadership to the country and encouraging people to do right behavior so we get out of this pandemic.
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>> look, this is a guy when he was cold an didn't have water in the texas crisis he went to cancun. we can see what he thinks of first. i want to ask you one thing about republican congressman matt gaetz, mccarthy punted on what should happen to him, no charges have been filed yet, which is true. what do you make of republicans twisting themselves into a pretzel to defend him regardless -- what's happened through these text is unacceptable behavior. >> they had four years to twist themselves into pretzel in everything related to donald trump. barack obama had done one-tenth of what donald trump did they'd
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have been all over it and donald trump has 20 plus odd women who accused him of sexual assault they twisted themselves into a pretzel and for matt gaetz it doesn't surprise me because for them the ends is about the means so if someone is trying to stand on the issue even if their private or public life might be a complete mess, donald trump was their standard, if they didn't fault donald trump in the midst of this i don't see them faulting the congressman from florida who seems to have just as many problems as former president trump. >> matthew thank you very much for your perspective. next president biden administration provides new evidence of what the russian intel got from the trump campaign. and captain police officer evans killed in the line of duty
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intelligence operative who was given internal 2016 campaign
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polling data by top aides to donald trump went on to share that information with russia's intelligence services. the biden administration is disclosing this for the first time as they today announced new sanctions against russians over their interference in u.s. elections, over the solar winds cyberattack and the ongoing occupation of crimea. biden warning russia that further medaling will have consequences. >> we can't allow a foreign power to interfere with impunity. if russia tons interfere, i'll take further actions to respond. >> evan perez, let's take a step back. in the context of what happened with russia and the trump campaign, this remarkable revelation that a russian operative got internal data from top trump campaign aides, a russian operative, and gave that for the kremlin. what more are you learning about
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this? >> it really makes you want to reassess the whole russia collusion thing that the trump campaign, president trump, bill barr in this building here all said never happened, erin. if you look at what this new revelation from the treasury department is, konstantin kilimnik got this information from paul manafort. manafort was in business with them and the fbi determined kilimnik was tied to the russian intelligences services. what this revelation is it connects the puzzle. we know that manafort and gaetz provided this polling data, internal polling data from the trump campaign to kilimnik. and now we know that it ended up from kilimnik into the hands of the russian intelligence
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services. so, look, again, one of the things that the president, the former president said, was that this never happened and there was no connection between his campaign and the russians. and now, according to the intelligence services, the u.s. intelligence services, yes, there was. >> as you say, this closes that crucial gap, that it got from kilimnik to the russian intelligence services. so the biden administration has these sanctions and they're going to cause real pain. how severe are they really? >> we know it's going to cut off the u.s. financial firms from trading in russian bonds directly from the russian government. they could have gone a lot further. this could have been a lot worse. they could have, for example, cut off all access to u.s. dollar financial access. and so that would have been a lot more severe. they didn't go that far. >> evan, thank you very much. next, a final farewell to a capitol police officer killed in the line of duty. "what if i could retire sooner?" and so she'll get some advice from fidelity,
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escorted by law enforcement officers paying their respects. officer evans was killed in the line of duty april 2nd at the u.s. capitol complex. he was a husband and a father of two young children you see there grieving. our sincerest condolences to his wife and the family. anderson starts now. good evening. it has been a busy and a difficult day in addition to the first court appear for the ex-police officer charged in daunte wright's killing and the trial in minneapolis of ex-officer derek chauvin in the killing of george floyd. video emerged today in chicago in the fatal police shooting of adam toledo a 13-year-old latino. of course all the cases are different, each scenario and each investigation is unique and we'll treat each of them as such. there's no denying the country is on edge. we'll be joined by the