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>> they're taking full responsible for it. the official who made that mistake of putting down target has been pout paid administrative leave. the dog was in a kennel with another dog. and that official from what we're hearing had made the unilateral decision to say this dog looked like a mutt, like a bag of bones, from what terry will us. after many. she made the decision to euthanize target. >> i hear his 4-year-old is a wreck over this. >> the 4-year-old boy is saying please take the poison out, daddy. bring the dog back. it doesn't seem to seatbelt this dog who was a hero. that is the important thing. >> thank you for bringing this up. a horrific story. nonetheless. now wolf blitzer in washington. thanks very much. a royal wedding for the history book. now a giddy prince william and his long time love, kate middleton, are revealing firsthand the dramatic details of the moment they got engaged including why he decided to give they are late princess diana's ring. stand by.
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guilty on multiple counts of veteran congressman is charged with serious house ethics violations. and he is calling the findings deplorable. plus, he is known as the merchant of death. an alleged international arms dealer extradited to the united states on terror charges. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the situation room. one of the longest serving democrats is fighting for his political life. he was forced to step down is cheryl of the house, ways and means committee is getting a formal lashing from his peers after being accused of house ethics violations. our correspondent is standing by on capitol hill. she has all the dramatic late breaking developments. >> reporter: this is what it came down to after a two-year investigation. we're talking about charlie rangel. he is 80 years old, in the twilight of his career and this did not go his way.
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>> the majority found that to be proven by clear and convincing evidence on a vote, 7-1. >> reporter: on 11 of 12 council, a bipartisan ethics panel found charles rangel guilty of breaking house rules. for failing to pay taxes on income from a rentalvilla in the dominican republic where he is seen vacationing in this photo and not disclosing hundred of thousands of dollars in assets. also misusing a rent controlled apartment as a campaign office and using congressional letterhead and staff to solicit donations for a college center name for him including from companies with business before his tax writing committee. the top republican and democrat on the committee seem somber after the charge were read. >> no one asked for this assignment. sitting in judgment of a fellow member, a colleague is very difficult. >> we have tried to act with fairness, led only by the facts and the law.
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and i believe that we have accomplished that mission. >> reporter: but rangel wasn't in the room to hear the verdict. he boycotted his own trial saying his lawyers with drew their reputation and the committee was not giving him time to mount a defense. our camera caught him near his office. are you hoping for just a reprimand? >> i don't know. >> reporter: in a written statement rangel called the decision unfair and the inevitable result of the committee's insistence on moving forward despite the absence of any legal representation on my behalf. but even some of his colleagues like fellow new york democrat elliot angle seemed to understand why the committee judged the 20 term democrat as they did. >> they did it because they saw there was substance there. is and as a friend of charlie's, and someone who is respected him for a long time, i'm kind of sorry to see this happen toward the end of his career. >>. >> reporter: and the next step
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is for the ethics committee to in essence, the next step is for the ethics committee to in essence sentence rangel. it is called a sanctions hearing. could it happen as early as this week and there are a lot of different options they have. the worst would be to expel him from the house of representatives. that is seen as very unlikely. normally health for member who have been convicted of criminal charges which rangel has not been, obviously. has not had that. the other different kinds of rebukes that co-face might be a censure or simply a letter of reprimand. maybe even a fine. having some privileges revoked. some of those items would have to go before the full house. but of course we're waiting to see exactly what the rebuke is. >> all right. thanks very much. we'll have more on this later. this hour, let's move on to have some other news we're following. many of us president bush iconic royal wedding of prince charles and princess diana. now nearly 30 years later, the world is once again captivated. this time with the engagement of their he willest sorng prince
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william, to kate middleton. in their first television interview since announcing the news, the young couple is taking us behind the scenes of an emotional and sometimes challenging love story. >> did you kind of always have at the back of your minds that you wanted to marry each other? did that come slowly? did you decide a couple week ago? people have assumed you're going to be married for a long time. how did you both come to it in your head? >> from my point of view, when i first met kate, i knew there was something very special about her and i knew that there was possibly something that i wanted to explore there. we ended up being friends for a while and that was a good foundation. because do i generally believe now, especially that being friends with one another is a massive advantage. and it just went from there. and over the years, i knew things were getting better and better and we went through a few stumbling blocks as every relationship does but we picked ourselves up and carried on.
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and from where you had the odd problem when you were first getting to know each, other it is all gone and really easy being with each other and it is really fun. and i'm obviously extremely funny and she loves that. so it is all good. >> you say so yourself. >> kate, you're obviously, you still have all your friends, both of your friends talk about, this is a very substantial love that is built up over a very long period of time. that is part friendship and more than that. >> well, i think if you, when you go out with someone for quite a long time, you do get to know each other very, very well. you go through the good time, you go through bad times. both personally but also within the relationship as well. and i think if you can come out of that stronger and learn as i said, things about yourself, certainly, it is certainly, yeah. been a good, how many years? >> a lot. >> three, four.
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>> i was going to say, did you ever -- come on. >> well, we've had our conversations but i think it was -- >> we've talked about this happening so kate was not in the dark at all. we've been planning it for at least a year, if not longer. it was just finding the right time. for couple it is all about timing. i had my military career and i couldn't have done this if i was still doing my training. so i got that out of way. and kate is in a good place in terms of work where she wants to be and we decided this was a really good time. >> you're obviously going to enter this family, the most famous royal family in the world. william's mother was this massive iconic figure, the most famous figure. our age. is that worrying? is that intimidating? do you think about it a lot? you particularly, kate,
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obviously. >> obviously i would love to have met her. and she is obviously, she is an inspirational woman to look up to. obviously to this day and you know, going forward and things. a wonderful family. the members who i've met have achieved a lot. and very inspirational. so yeah, i do. >> like kate said, it is about carving your own future. no one will try, no someone trying to fill my mother's shoes and what she did is fantastic. it is about making your own future, your own destiny. and clait do a very good job of that. >> we'll have a lot more of this interview coming up. we're only just starting. throughout this hour and the next hour, you'll see much more including how he popped the question to kate middleton as well. so stand by for that. just who is the woman soon to become royalty?
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28-year-old kate middleton is the daughter of self-made millionaires from rural england. her mother was originally a in it attendian and her father, a pilot. the oldest of three children, she hold as degree in art from st. andrews university in scotland where she met the prince. and much like his mother, the late princess die an, a middleton is no stranger to style. back in 2008, she joined the likes of the first ladies. michelle obama, francis sarkozy on van fair's international best dressed list. much more coming up on this story. and more of the interview. his nickname is the merry chance of death and he has allegedly smuggled weapons of death all over africa and the middle east. now he is being taken right here to the united states to face charges. why is russia calling it, and i'm calling it, outrageous justice? plus a young american hero receives the medal of honor for extraordinary courage in afghanistan. you'll feigned out what would make him give the medal back in
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a second. and ground breaking day in dallas. familiar faces join george w. bush on a key milestone for his presidential library including the former vice president, dick cheney. you'll see all of that coming up here in "the situation." we've used hydrogen in our plants for decades. the old hydrogen units were very large. recently, we've been able to reduce that. then our scientists said "what if we could make it small enough to produce and use hydrogen right on board a car, as part of a hydrogen system." this could significantly reduce emissions and increase fuel economy by as much as 80%.
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jack cafferty is here and he has the cafferty file. >> ever since the proposals of
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that bipartisan deficit reduction commission have begun to emerge, critics from all over the at this time political spectrum are trying to shout the loudest about what they don't want to see cut. now you can add robert gates to the list. gates is blasting the proposed reductions in military spending, saying such cuts would be catastrophic to national security. gates said he is trying to use a scalpel instead of a meat axe to make cuts to his department. gates adds when it come to the deficits, the defense department is not the problem. that's the problem. nobody wants to see the program near and dear to them cut. yet if we're going to get serious about this almost $14 trillion debt, we'll have to do a lot of cutting. the deficit commission seem to have put nearly everything on the table. the overall goal being to reduce the debt by $4 trillion by 2020. in addition to cuts by the defense department, the commission recommends cutting social security, medicare,
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raising the retirement age, cutting contracts for domestic government agencies, freezing the pay of federal workers, and shrinking the size of the federal work force. plus eliminating all ear marks. now congress is already hard at work on that last one. the ear marks. they're voting on a symbolic nonbinno nonbinding resolution. that's about as worthless, as, well, congress. here's the question. in light of the deficit commission's draft recommendations, where do you expect the federal government to make the deepest spending cuts? go to cnn.com/caffertyfile. it's something we rarely see. the award of america's highest military honor to a living recipient. that happened at the white house today. president obama awarded it to army staff sergeant salvatore giunta. on october 25, 2007, they are
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ambushed by taliban fighters in afghanistan. he braved enemy fire to help a fellow soldier who had been shot. then he chased down militants to pull another wounded comrade to safety and give him first-aid. he is the first living veteran of the afghanistan war to receive the medal of honor. >> sadly our nation has been unable to present this decoration to the recipients themselves because each gave his life, his last full measure of devotion, for our country. indeed as president, i've presented the medal of honor three time. and each time to the families of a fallen hero. >> this is an incredible time but it is also kind of a bittersweet time. times like this, because of this day, i lost two dear friends of mine. specialists hugo mendoza and joshua brennan.
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and although this is so positive, i would give this back in a second to have my friends with me right now. >> giunta added that the true heroes are those two fellow soldiers who lost their lives on that fateful, fateful night. dick cheney, condoleezza rice, and the former george w. bush, a veritable who's who of the bush administration. they were in dallas today for the groundbreaking of the bush presidential center library. cnn's reporter was there. how did it go? >> reporter: wolf, in many ways it was like a blast into the past. there were protesters outside the event chanting that president bush was a war criminal. inside the biggest check of bush president alumni that have gathered since he left office almost two years ago. >> time to shovel dirt. hold it up. look at the camera.
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turn it. >> reporter: it is the type of photo op president george w. bush has avoided for two years since leaving office. >> it is hard to believe that there is this much excitement about shoveling dirt. >> reporter: but there he was breaking ground on his president did he know library on the campus of smu. surrounded by hundreds of people who worked in the bush white house. dick cheney looked much thinner and walk around with the help of a cane. condoleezza rice will play a major role at the bush institute, working in the public policy arm of the president's library. critics have said the goal of the institute is to rewrite the history of the bush years. those closest to the former president say the institute is designed to help people understand the decisions he made. >> i don't think that he's trying to change how people perceive him. he is asking for people to better understand what they saw and what their perceptions might be of what they saw.
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>> reporter: president bush has reemerged into the pot light to, in his words, peddle his new book and kick off the library construction. don't expect to see the former president offering opinions on the politics of the day. >> the decisions of governing are on another president's desk. and he deserves to make them without criticism from me. staying out of current affairs and politics does not mean staying out of policy. >> reporter: president bush might not be interested in fighting political showdowns anymore but dick cheney showed he still enjoys throwing the political jab for a friendly republican audience who didn't like president obama's stimulus plan. >> of course, the george w. bush presidential center isn't much to look at just yet. but the workers are ready. construction will move fast after today's groundbreaking. this may be the only shovel-ready project in america.
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>> reporter: a lot of talk of dick cheney at this event today. one noticeable an send, president bush's parents were not here today as well. in this library scheduled to open in the spring of 2013. >> i know they'll be on the larry king show this week. why weren't they there? are they saying? >> reporter: we weren't told why that is. of course, the first president bush was here in the dallas area a few weeks ago, throwing out the first pitch at a texas rangers game of the world series and many people coming about how frail he looked. so perhaps the journey up here is perhaps a little too much at this point. >> all right. thanks very much for that. violent riots erupting in haiti amid rumors that a united nations military contingent is responsible for a deadly cholera outbreak. we're going there for a live report. stand by. and a potential roadblock for president obama's plan to dismantle nuclear arsenals in
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we're monitoring some of the other top stories right now including a potential blow to the ratification of the u.s.-russia star treaty. what's going on? >> the obama backed starr treaty won't have much of a chance in congress's lame duck session. that warning coming from the republican senator john kyle. he said republicans have too much work to do and it is too complex to vote on before the newly elected congress convenes in january.
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vice president biden warns it would endanger national security. in a new cnn opinion research corporation poll, 73% said the senate should ratify start. 23% disagree. general motors chevrolet volt is the car of the year. it calls it one of the most significant in its history. it is just entering production this month. the plug-in car can drive for 40 mile on battery power before a gasoline fuel engine kicks in. after getting stranded at sea last week, carnival splendor cruise ship won't be sailing again until the new year. that's to allow time for repairs following the engine room fire that crip manied off the coast. passenger were stranded with no power, no a/c, no hot showers and no hot food. and president obama's new book hits store shelves today and it for kids. the book is titled these i sing. it was entitled by the first
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daughter. the public lusher said the book is a tribute to 13 ground breaking americans who made a difference and shaped america's ideals. they include george washington, baseball icon, jackie robinson and artist georgia oh keefe. >> it will be a huge best seller and probably sell very quickly. hearts may be breaking all over the world right now. britain's prince william is off the most eligible bachelor list that engaged to his long time girlfriend, kate middleton. how did they first meet? much more of their joint interview in london today. stand by for that. and a royal biographer will share some special insight with us. and pushback on airport patdowns and screenings. but now the outrage isn't coming. ♪
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let's get back to one. our top stories. the highly anticipated wedding of prince william to kate middleton joining us from london. the royal biographer and former royal reporter mark saunders.
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thanks very much for coming in. they gave a joint sit-down interview. i want to play this little clip. they talk about how they first met. listen to this. >> we met at university at st. andrews. and we were friends for over a year first. and it just sort of blossomed from then on. we just spent more time with each other and had a good giggle, had lots of fun and realized we shared in the same interests and had a really good time. she has a really nice sense of humor and that really helps me. it was good fun. we had a really good laugh and then things happened. >> i think when you said, i turned bright red when i met and you scuttled off and he was not there for quite a bit of the time. he wasn't there for the first week. it did take a bit of time for to us get to know each other. but we did become, you can, very close friends from quite early
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on. >> they've been dating, obviously, for many years so this is not a huge surprise. what has been the immediate reaction from the people in britain? >> the reaction here has been tremendous. in fact, it has been tremendous all over the world. it is almost as if a breath of fresh air has swept across the country. everybody is terribly excited. now already the talk has moved from the engagement to the wedding. where it will be. this is just what the country needed in terms of a really good news story which everybody can enjoy. >> does it make any difference at all that she is not royalty? at least not yet? >> well, no. i don't think so. it is a very modern relationship and it looks like it will be a very modern royal wedding. everybody, they have been dating for some time now. so we've become quite familiar with kate middleton and being with william. and unlike diana who suddenly
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seemed to appear, just from nowhere, kate has been part of the william package for some time now. so it is not a surprise that they're get go engaged. it was just that it happened today. >> just the timing of this right now. they actually got engaged a few week ago on a trip to kenya but today they announced it. >> listen to this other exchange they had in this joint sit-down interview today. the pressure on her is going to be enormous right now. the paparazzi and everything else. listen to this exchange. >> we talked about it a lot, haven't we? it's always something we've had a good chat about. and like i said, both of us have come to the decision pretty much together. i just chose when to do and it how to do and it obviously being a real romantic, i did it extremely well. >> kate, coming to a close, people have put, placed some criticisms of you about your work and so. on does that hurt? how do you respond to people who say those things? >> well, i think i know i've
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been working very hard for the family business. sometimes those days are long days. and i if i know i'm wok hard and i'm pulling my weight, both work and playing hard at the same time, you know, i think everyone high work with can see that i'm there pulling my weight. that's really what matters to me. they felt you are doing the right thing. you can only sort of treat yourself and you have to ignore a lot of what is said. >> how much is princess diana hovering over this upcoming wedding? >> to begin with, today, she wasn't really. it was about kate and william. but once everybody saw the ring and realized it was the same one that prince charles had given diana, then all of a sudden, it shifted. the shift toward diana. it is such a terrible shame that
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she isn't here. because it she would be the perfect person to guide kate through the next few months, at least. the presence of diana, it is always been there throughout william and harry's life. and it it will now become even greater. because kate is going to be compared at every turn. and we're supposed to call her katherine now. katherine will be compared to diana constantly. it will never go away. >> that ring is a spectacular ring indeed. it brings back a lot of memories. thanks very much. we'll stay in close touch with you. this build-up to the wedding will be enormous, i suspect. appreciate it. mark saunders joining us from london. we'll have much more of the interview with this new couple. that is coming up later here in the situation room. including how he actually proposed. stand by for that. could polyever agree to give up their pet project?
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spending. right now republicans are voting on whether to voluntarily give up ear marks in the next congress. meanwhile many democrats are divided on the issue. let's bring in our senior correspondent with the latest on the gop vote. i understand it may have just happened? >> it just happened. and we can report that senate republicans, as expected, did vote by voice vote to stop ear marks. at least republicans have voted to stop ear marks. no more earmarks for senate republicans. it is something that they had pretty much agreed to after mitch mcconnell reversed himself in a pretty stunning way yesterday. what is also interesting is that they passed another resolution to put appreciate our democrats to do the same. i want to show you how hard this will be. this will be some pretty tough medicine for some of these republicans. look on the screen. roger wicker of mississippi requested $368 million in earmarks over the past couple years. richard shelby requested $173 million in earmarks. both told me today that they're going to abide by their party's
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resolution. they voted for it moments ago. >> so dana, the bottom line is they're going to give up on determining where this money should be spent and allow the obama administration to make these decisions, the various departments and energies of the executive branch will have this, the congressional leadership is willing to defer to the executive branch? spz s&p what's happening now? >> effectively. there will be for the republican side, they will no longer direct money back to their home states as they have been doing. tens of millions of dollars, as i just showed, as they have been doing. the interesting thing to look for in the future, what happens with democrats. and claire mccaskill is a democrat who is already saying that she and several others are pushing for a full senate vote. a full senate vote to have a two-year ban on ear marks. this will be in the public very soon. it will put pressure to follow
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what they. did it have the senate majority leader harry reid doesn't go i know what this at all. he gave a full throated defense on earmarks. >> i think i have an obligation to the people of nevada to do what is important to nevada. not what is important to some bureaucrat down here with green eye shades. so i'm not going personally going to back off bringing stuff back to nevada. >> now a lot of democrats i talk to say this is kind of a political red herring. that political republicans began to push themselves say that ear mark in general really make up less than 1% of the budget. and that republicans who are, have been pressured by their constituents and voters to deal with cutting spending are trying to put this out there as something that proves that they're actually listening to them. but i will also tell you there is a growing sent i am among democrats to follow what republicans did today. and it will be very interesting to see this play out in public if there is in fact a full
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senate vote in the next week or two. >> i know you'll stay on top of it for us. thank you. he is certainly one of the most familiar faces and voices in congress. we're talking about congressman charlie rangel. today he was found guilty of multiple ethics violations by colleagues on the house ethics subcommittee. is he though, getting fair treatment? we'll discuss that in our strategy session. stand by. is what you're breathing in everyday slowly killing you? our own doctor sanjay gupta reports on the risks. hey, did you ever finish last month's invoices?
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political contributor roland martin and leslie sanchez. the founder and ceo. thank you for coming in. charlie rangel was found guilty on these ethics violations. do you believe he is getting a fair shake right now? a fair trial? >> first of all, this has been going on for quite some time. he had a legal team. a washington, d.c. powerhouse. frankly, it took about $2 million of his dollars. he says they with drew in october. they say that they did not quit on him. the fact of the matter is, he has had ample opportunity to set up a legal defense fund. so i think that it was indeed proper for them to move forward. so i don't really understand how he did not receive a fair shake from the ethics committee based upon all the information that we have in front of us. >> he says he was found guilty these last few days because he didn't even have a lawyer. he didn't even show up today. they just sort of rammed this down and didn't give him a chance to create a new legal
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defense team. what do you think? >> i think that is a weak defense and it is a sad case. it makes the case for why people should retire early. this is a decorated war hero and this is not the way he really, anybody would want him to see the end of his career. the reality is, if you look at the new york post article, there are allegations that he inappropriately used his political action committee campaign funds to the tune. almost $400,000 for his personal defense. he is not allowed to do that. there are a lot of questions. he had ample time to get question. as roland alludes, to he had the resources. >> he was just reelected so he has two years ahead of him in congress. he is obviously not going to go to jail or anything like that. >> first of all, the lead counsel for the ethics committee stated that of these particular, frankly, violations, he said himself that it was a corruption and he wasn't sure that he personally benefited. the real issue now is, what are they going to hand down and then how will congress vote?
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the big issue for him, could he possibly lose his seniority? that's the real issue. so there's no doubt. look. i believe the person is innocent until proven guilty. ted right to move forward with the trial. so i never want to believe that should you resign until this whole matter was resolved. i don't believe in that. i believe you go to the end. the question, is will he lose his seniority? that's the real concern right now for him. his supporters. >> it puts the ball in exactly the right court. that is with nancy pelosi. the question, she came on a wave of support. people basically upset with republicans, upset with corruption. she said she would have the most ethical and honest congress and she has stood by rangel. certainly consistently all the way to the end. even as the ethics committee came over and said there were violations among his staff. knowing about some of these trips. she stood by him. the question is, will she continue to stand by him? >> hold. on stand by? first of all, he is no longer chairman of the house, sgaz means committee. he lost the leadership post.
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congress still has to voeflt it is not up to speaker pelosi. >> it is -- there is a lot of optics here. when you say you want to be the speaker of the house of the most ethical congress will. >> i understand that. >> massive abuse. and she is silent. she stands by him silently. >> congress has to vote will. >> very true. but perception and optics. >> she did force him in effect to give up his chairmanship of the house, ways and means committee. not something he wanted to do themselves stripped him of that chairmanship. and she was a part of that decision. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> let's talk a little about what's going on in the republican national committee. michael steele is giving indications he wants another two-year term. there are others now emerging saying he shouldn't get the job. others should get the job. and now we've learned that there is is this scoring system they're setting up to determine whether or not these potential candidates really with the tea party, really adhering to the principles of the republican national committee. is this a good idea?
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let me start with you, leslie. >> sure. the problem with a lot of these lists is the lists tend to get longer and longer. i think ultimately we have a lot of really strong candidates. and everybody, you know, important people are wanting to throw their hat in and lead this party. the real question is can they recruit good candidates and are they good spokespeople for the values of the republican platform? i think ultimately it comes down to that. and adding beyond that is up for discussion. >> our 13 point on this so-called -- >> go on and on. >> in your opinion, the way that these potential candidates should be judged? the challengers to michael steele if he runs? >> i believe it is. look. when you have anywhere from five, ten, 15, 20 people, you need to be able to establish a criteria. you need to be able to say, frankly, who is, for a community year, one work the, three, four, five. when steele was elected, there were several that got to that particular poichblt don't want a
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long drawn out process when it comes to voting. you should be able to weed some people out whose name is being thrown out there who frankly cannot fit the bill. so these things are usually corporate america every single day. they're using hr departments. i see no reason why the. >> referee: nc should not use a particular criteria to determine -- >> leslie, you know, they are obviously being influenced by the tea party movement. and its successful because one of the notions in these 13 points is whether or not these candidates will actively graft into the party the tea party activists branches and make up the freedom movement, who make up the freedom movement in this country. >> you're right. when you look at the list, does it give a competitive advantage to an outsider? for example, a lot of the state, the national chairman toned come from inside the 42 from. the state party leaders, i talk to former chairman my old boss jim nicholson about that and he said it was really tough to get somebody outside the system to
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come in. because they had to know all the republican committee members. they had to bull time, and kind of a legacy. people had to know what they stood for. that's the difference there. >> we've got to leave it there. hold that thought for another day. >> not a problem. i'll be on john king usa. i'll save it for his show. >> save it for himself. thanks very much. jack cafferty is coming up next in the situation room. plus, he's known as the merchant of death now. this alleged international arms dealer i about to face terror charges right near in the united states.
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jack is back with the cafferty file. jack? >> the question this hour is in light of the deficit reduction commission's draft recommendations, where do you expect the federal government to make the deepest spending cuts? kathy says that if they were really representing us they would cease funding for the two endless wars started by bush, close military bases around the world and no other country has a military base here. stop outsourcing our jobs, stop catering to illegal aliens and enforce the immigration laws. annie says that since the republicans are taking charge in the house, i imagine that the
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deepest pending cuts will be to the programs that help the most vulnerable among us, and grandma,k so up on the cat food. and this one, in washington, they won't go near washingtmedi social security and take a swipe at discretionary budgets, but it is like a bamboo tree, you cannot stop it from growing, you can cut it back, by it will come back spending twice as much and twice as fast. and this one, prudent would be across the board cuts for 10% to 15% and those who have departments with little accomplishes should be shut down, and redundant programs terminated as well. david says, i don't expect them to have any significant cuts until china and japan quit buying our debt, and even then they might print money instead of facing the fury of the voters. and bonnie says, i expect
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entitlement, and education programs, because they only affect the middle and low income people. and congress full of rich it white old men is going to touch defense, it's their viagara. and they don't have to send their family members to war. and paul says pencils and paper clips gotta go. wolf? >> well, thank you, jack. it might be deadly and you may not know you are exposed. >> well, wolf, around the world, 1 billion people are breathing in air too dirty to breathe according to some environmental organizations. if you look at the developing countries, 20% of the health problems in those countries can be attributed to environmental causes such as pollution. >> we will talk to sanjay in japan right now. and plus, more of the interview with the newly engaged prince william, and katherine middleton, and including why he
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>> you surely can't see it with a naked eye, but you are breathing it in, and it is slowly killing you. let's find out more from our cnn chief medical correspondent sanjay gupta in japan. >> what you are looking at is urbanization or the consequences of it. big factories as the neighbors. here in kobe, it is a beautiful city, but they suffer from the pollution problems so many
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cities do. you have 15 factories in this small area and add to that the exhaust from the buses and car, and you have the smog that hangs over the cities, and the air is too dirty to breathe. here is the frightening hart, you are likely not to notice it. your body becomes accustomed to this after four days of breathing it in. these tiny particles are smaller than a strand of hair and inhaled like gas and constricts the muscles around the airways and think of it like breathing through a straw. all of it can impair your airway and cause increases in blood pressure and heart attack risk and the chances of heart disease. you may think of breathing in toxic air would take years to cause an impact, but that is not true. on some days when they have particularly bad days, eemergency room visits spike. it is not just adults at risk, but babies are born pre-polluted with more than 230 chemicals in
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the system at the time of the birth. truth is that progress is starting to be made and in fact, places in china that we have visited where they are moving the coal-fired power plants in the more rural areas than the urban areas where fewer people are. and new laws on idling for buses and trucks and of course, there are other things to do better, such as driving less and using public transportation such as this can help. also, keeping in mind when pollution is at the worst. hot days are worse, and also in the mid-day, so if you are exercising in this time, you are taking in seven to ten times air and seven to ten times as much pollution as well. here is something to surprise you as well, indoor air quality can be worse than outside. so open up a window or make sure you have good ventilation. urbanization is here to stay, no question about it, but these are tips for individuals and society to make the beautiful city that you live in a safe and healthy one as well.
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wolf, you ma by wondering what is the most polluted city on the planet, and china seems to have the dubious honor. they say that one day there is like smoking three packs of cigarettes. unbelievable. los angeles and phoenix are among the most polluted as well. you know, but there is some progress being made, wolf. pittsburgh used to be one of the most polluted cities in the states, but the numbers are better there, and as a result, they say that on average residents can expect to live 10 months longer, so wolf, good news there. back to you. >> and you are in "the situation room" happening now, britain is buzzing about a royal wedding. prince william and kate middleton are now officially engaged. you will hear the royal couple tell how the late princess diana's ring played a part in the big moment. some passengers may be balking at the body scans and pat downs, but some authorities are expressing outrage of their
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own. and a shocking government study shows how hospital care can be dangerous for medicare patients. an estimated 15,000 die each month, but there are ways the lower the risk. we want to welcome the viewer ins the united states and around the world, and breaking news and political headlines and jeanne moos straight ahead. i'm wolf blitzer, and you are in i'm wolf blitzer, and you are in "the situation room." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com britabritaipbritain weighec wowoes anr woes awoes . rprince william and kate middletp middleton mamidd todatoday, anp today, anto
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princess diaprincess dian prin part. richap richard quest has t from london. >> reportep >> reporter: th ffor fofor wordsp fofo most. thr this mothis mosp t sc, p together witoth wl rrin e neneinorumr. p >> he is a true pitit africa, aafrica, anda d ver very romantic, and very personal. >> i can't remember, because i forget the memories, but i also didn't realize it, but i would have stayed in africa, but the time is wonderful right now, and i'm very happy and i am glad i have done it. >> reporter: on day of high emotion, prince william revealed that the ring he had given his bride to be was as special as the woman who now wears it. >> as you recognize, it is my mother's engagement ring which is special to me, and i put the two together to have a way that my mother did not miss out on the day or the excitement for the fact that we are going to spend the rest of our lives
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together. >> it is a daunting prospect, and william is great person to help me eon my way, and i look forward to spending my time with him. >> she is very good at flattery. >> reporter: william's father, prince charles, the prince of wales skept his schedule out and about. his reaction was a mixture of delight and light hearted. another set of proud parents, the middle tons spoke of their happiness at today's turn of events. >> as you know catherine and prince william have been going out together for quite a number of years which is great for us, because we have gotten to know william very well. we all think he is wonderful and extremely fond of him. they make a lovely couple. they are great fun to be with, and we have had a lot of laughs together. we wish them every happiness in
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the future. >> reporter: as soon as the announcement made, a group of people passed on a congratulations. >> this is incredibly exciting news and the whole country will want to parse their very best wishes to the happy couple and wish them an incredibly long and happy life together. i was given the news in a cabinet meeting and i was passed paper and given the news, and a great cheer went up and a great banging of the table. as well as this being a great moment for national celebration, i think that we also have to remember that this is two young people who love each other, and who have made this announcement and looking forward to the wedding and we must give them plenty of space to think about the future and what they are about to do, but a great day for the country and royal family and obviously for prince william and kate. >> joining us outside of
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buckingham palace, our own richard quest. have they set a time yet and location for this wedding? >> reporter: no. to both of those. the statement from clarence townshend announcing the engagement said spring or summer of 2011. now a rumor has it that the people of various different establishments have been asked to keep the first two weeks of august next year clear. there is going to be one date they want to avoid and that is of course the 30th anniversary of charles and diana's wedding which is next summer as well. but, now, as to where it is going to be, well, we can probably rule out st. paul's cathedral because that is where charles and diana got marry and secondly the chapel at windsor, and possibly, because it is too small for a major event, but if i were a betting man, wolf, i would say at westminster abbey,
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the home of so many royal occasions, and not the least of which is the coronation. >> what is the thinking of england right now? okay to have a lavish royal wedding in these rough economic times? >> that's a very good question. there will be inevitably the curmudgeons who say that we should not spend a penny on a royal wedding, but then those who say, this is exactly the sort of thing that the nation needs in a time of austerity. i think they will be clever in pitching it just right. they know if they are perceived to be wasting money or flagrantly flaunting lavish event that will go down badly with so many unemployed, but get it right, and remember, the british people will rally around diana's son. william is the son. this is the wedding she ewill become the queen.
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>> richard quest, thank you so much. and later this hour, we have an interview with the royal couple. prince william and kate middleton who spoke about their plans for the future and they tell us how the late princess diana's ring played a key part in the engagement. the interview with both of them in london coming up later in the hour. other news, senator john mccain says he foresees tension inside of the republican party with the arrival of budget slas slashing lawmakers eyeing defense spending and war in afghanistan and singled out the tea party favorite rand paul from kentucky. we will talk about it with our political analyst gloria borger and john king who is the host of "john king usa" that begins at the top of the hour. let me play this clip, and then we will discuss. >> i think that there are going to be tensions within the party. i don't knt no't know the incum
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paul, but he has already talked about withdrawals or cuts in defense, et cetera, and a number of others are. there is no doubt that this new group of republicans have come in with a commitment to take a meat ax to the spending, but i'm not sure that you can say that everything that in defense is sacrosanct while the rest of the cuts in education, and social programs are taking place, so i worry a lot about the rise of protectionism and isolationism in the republican party. >> does he have a point there? should he be worried about the rise of protectionism, and isolationism in the tea party-backed republicans? >> he is, and he should be, because john mccain is very much a supporter of the war in afghanistan. if we leave afghanistan, he edoesn't want edoesn't want it to be because of budget reasons and some of
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the new folks like senator rand paul may be more likely to support barack obama on a troop drawdown than someone like john mccain, but to be fair to him, this -- >> to whom? >> john mccain. this answer was in reaction to a question about afghanistan, and he does believe there should be cuts in the defense budget, but not across the board meat ax. >> and senate-elekt rand paul is not as far as cutting defense spending as his dad congressman ron paul who was on the show we barney frank saying to slash defense spending. >> ron paul has es essentially stopped the waters edge and no u.s. military involvement overseas and rand paul says some military involvement is justified and going after afghanistan after 9/11 justified and it is succeeding or time to come out when you have huge deficit spending and you can't say, we remaking progress, it is
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time for the conversation. so a global projection of the might that is going to dominate the conversation, and another conversation that is going to dominate washington is where can you find cuts, cuts in spending? and secretary gates knew it was coming and he got out already saying that he knew they had to do some cuts and the president commission doubled what gates wants to cut, and some republicans say no way, but that is the fight in washington. you can't, if we have a big conversation and everybody has to give, that includes the pentagon. >> but it is easy, wolf, to say, let's do 10% across the board, and that is the easy way to do it, because there are no fingerprints on it, then, but the more difficult way is the way that secretary gates wants to do it is to say, look, you know, you can't take a meat ax, but a scalpel, and you have the decide which defense programs you want to cut, and which defense programs you want to fund. it is hard work. >> and john has a lot more coming up on this on "john king usa" at the top of the hour. guys, thank you. the frustrations are flying and jack cafferty is here with
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the cafferty file. jack? >> more on the cafferty file today on the pleasures of modern air travel. after you have been groped and x-rayed and back splattered and looked at like you are a common criminal you make it on to the flight to find out you are seated in front of or behind of one or more people traveling with a small children and now for the duration of the flight you can look forward to screaming, crying, food throwing, and yelling parents and on and on and on and "the new york times" says that sitting near an uncontrollable child is second-biggest fear for flying. they want to have family-only sections on airplane s and some americans support this. close to 20% say they would like to have flights with no children. some travelers say they would gladly pay extra to have no kids
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on board, and even some parents support the idea of separating children from the rest of the passengers. they say a family-only section would give parents and the kids more freedom to make a little noise and they point out it is stressful for the parents when the kids are screaming and won't calm down, but it is unlikely that any of this is going to happen any time soon. a major trade group says that the industry is working hard to return to profitability, and they don't want to turn people away from flightser but as for family-only sections, they say it is complicated and it could set a presence of putting flights for limits such as obese-only flights or elderly-only flights. would you pay extra for a flight with no children? go to cnn.com/caffertyfile. >> thank you, jack. a desperate situation is getting worse right now. first disease and now violence ravaging haiti with the protesters blaming u.n. troops
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medicare patients. a government study out today estimates that 15,000 die each month, but there are some things that you can do to lower the risks for yourselves and your loved one. our senior health correspondent elizabeth cohen has the story. elizabeth? >> wolf, the numbers in the latest report are astounding. the inspector general for the department of health and human services took a look at medicare patients in the hospital, and they found that 1 in 7 of them are harmed when they are in the hospital. they went there for help, and they end up being harmed. they say when you do the math, that means that 15,000 medicare patients are dying in hospitals per month because of something that the hospital did. now, what exactly went wrong with these patients? well, a long list. let's take a look at a few examples. sometimes what happened is that the patient was given the wrong drug. a drug meant for maybe someone down the hall. sometimes the patient had i.v. fluid overload, and that hurt them. sometimes there was excessive surgical bleeding or infections
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from catheters. over the years many people have criticized hospitals for not owning up to their mistakes and trying to fix them, and of course, wolf, what everyone wants to know is how do you keep from becoming a victim? well, we talk about it all of the time on the i'm pi'" the time on the i'm pi' empower patient." if you are sick, bring somebody, a spouse, a brother or friend who can be there with you, and when that person is there with you, they want to look out for a couple of things. first of all, bring a list or make a list of all of the medications that you are getting in the hospital, so when a nurse comes to bring you a medication, you can look and see, gee, is this on the list of what i am supposed to get and is it the right dosage. also, ask if you really need a catheter. oftentimes they get them when they don't need them. catheters are great places for infections an unfortunately this happens quite often, so ask if you really need that catheter and then ask how quickly it can come out.
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wolf. >> good advice from elizabeth cohen. thank you. the american hospital association released the following statement in response to the government's new study. let me quote. while hospitals have made great strides in improving care, this report highlights there is more that we can do. a deadly cholera outbreak in haiti is leading to violence blaming the u.n. for spreading the disease. but they say that the virus is politically to blame. ivan watson is on the scene. what is going on? >> well, wolf, for the second straight day now, the second largest city in haiti cap haitian is out of control. yesterday, one demonstrator was killed in clashes. the only way to get into the town and we were the only plane
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to land is by riding through motorcycles, because the demonstrators have created barricades and burning tires and using the wreckage of vehicles to block all automobile traffic. we saw gangs of angry youths there out in the streets. they are not attacking fellow haitians, but attacking the united nations peacekeeper es when they see them here who are besieged in the various bases throughout the town. why this angry situation? well, it has been a rumor, a story that has gone throughout haiti that the cholera epidemic and the first in more than 50 years in haiti that had originated with the contingent of nepalese peacekeepers and that has been denied by the united nations, but it is a potent rumor spreading through here and that is part of why the locals are lashing out at the united nations peace keepkeeper throwing rocks at the armored
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personnel carriers, and also, we reweeks away from the elections that the united nations accuses some of the demonstrators to intentionally trying to destabilize the country ahead of the national vote. wolf? >> as you say 1,000 people plus have died from cholera in haiti. when things go bad, they get worse and worse. we will stay on top of this with you. ivan watson is on the scene for us. something thats a tr thats s have never seen is a new black hold. and a surprising ring. william and kate reveal candid details of the engagement. we will hear an extended portion of the joint interview today in london. standby. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] here's hoping you find something special in your driveway this holiday. ♪
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ever since the midterm elections president obama has been touting a big meeting he will have with the democratic and the republican leadership over at the white house this thursday including a big dinner at the white house, but guess what, not so fast. with go to our congressional correspondent dana bash, and you are getting word that the meeting is off? >> it is postponed, that is correct. we are hearing it from the democratic and the republican sources here on capitol hill, and they are saying that on the democratic side that they got word from the white house that it was canceled. on the republican side, they say it was not set in stone, and something that the white house was trying to make work, but that they could never confirm that they could fit that meeting into what they say is a very busy schedule here on capitol hill meeting with the new members and getting the lame duck session up and running.
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despite what we are hearing, our ed henry is hearing from the democratic sources that may be a excuse by republicans, so there is a lot of finger pointing over this, the fact that this meeting, this big meeting that is supposed to take place in two days is not happening. one thing that probably everybody could agree on is the fact that they are even fighting over having a meeting and the date of the meeting does not bode well for what they want to do which is to after the midterm elections sit down and work together ark and this is going to be delayed on some of the big issues that have to be dealt with, like tax cuts. >> i want to be precise, dana. the white house had it on the president's schedule for thursday, including a big private dinner, upstairs at the white house, and then all of the sudden, the republicans tell him today, we are too busy for this meeting, and we can't come to the white house, and we can't drive down pennsylvania avenue to see you, because we have other stuff that we have to do? is that what happened? >> i cannot confirm that it was of initially on the white house's schedule. i cannot confirm that. i can tell you that the white
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house made it public that they wanted it to happen, and the president, himself, did it last week, and i can tell you that the republicans have been telling us since last week they were laying the groundwork for maybe not being able to attend, and insisting, insisting that this is something that the white house announced before they checked with republicans to see if it was do-able for them. >> i can say that it was on the white house schedule, because they have been talking about it for days and days and days and the president blocked out that time for the democrats and the republicans to come up to have what some were calling the slurpee summit, but we will see if it happens. it looks like a slap by the republican leadership on the hill at the president of the united states, when you turn down a meeting like this, that is the initial gut reaction that i would have, dana. >> well, certainly, that was the first thing that we said to republican sources who we were asking about this for several days now, because this is rumored for several days that -- all i can say is that seems to be the case on the face. but what i can tell you is that they have been laying the
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groundwork for not going and insisting that the white house did this without asking them if it was do-able. >> all right. thank you, dana bash. that is an important story developing with serious friction there. royal engagement on a different note. prince william and his fiance kate middleton made it official, but not before he gave her a chance to back out. they speak out about the big moment and what lies ahead. for many years travelers are angry over the intimate body scans and searches some relatives of terror victims say there is a good reason for the tight security. [ manager ] you know...
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three decades after britain's prince charles married the young princess diana, their son william has become engaged to his long-time love kate middleton and in their first official television interview with tom bradley, they say that a cherished item from the late princess diana had a big role in their big moment. listen to this. >> william, where did you propose, when, how, and kate, what did you say? >> it was about three weeks ago on holiday in kenya. we ehad private time away together with some friends, and i just decided it was the right time really, and we have been talking about marriage for a while. so, it wasn't massively big surprise, but i took her out somewhere nice in kenya and
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proposed. >> very romantic. there is a true romantic in there. of course, yes. >> and you knew that wow could do this from day one of the holiday or waited until the end? >> i had been planning it for a while, but as every man knows, it takes a certain motivation to get it going, and i was planning it, and it felt right to us in africa and it was beautiful at the time and i had done some planning to show my romantic side. >> kate, you have been on hold there for a while, so, did you see it coming and was he getting nervous and jumpy? >> no, because we were out there with friends and things, so i did not detect that at all. i thought that he might have maybe thought about it, but i was very excited when it came. >> did you produce the ring there and then? >> yes, i had been carrying it around in the rock sack for about three weeks from then and i knew i could not let it go, because if it disappeared i
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would be in big trouble. so i planned it and it went fine and you hear a lot of horror stories that things go horribly wrong, but it went well. i was pleased. >> it is a family ring? >>-y, it was my mother's engagement ring, and i thought it was quite nice, because she will not be around to share in the excitement, and the fun of this, so it is my way of keeping her close to it. >> reporter: well, let's have a look at it. are you an expert on it at all? >> no. what i have been informed it is a sapphire with diamonds, but everyone recognizes it from previous times say. >> it is beautiful. >> and you will be in it many. >> i hope i look after it. it is very, very special. >> it has to be said that you both look incredibly happy and relaxed. >> we are. we are. we are like sort of ducks, calm on the surface, but a little nervous under the water. but it is exciting, because we have been talking about it for a
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long time and to tell everybody about it is great, because it has been difficult to keep it to yourselves for reasons we had to. >> reporter: and people are bound to ask, you know, bit of awkward question, but do you want children? lots of children? see what comes? >> well, we will take it one step at a time and get through the marriage first, and then look at kids, but obviously, we want a family, so we will have to think about that. >> reporter: people say that you leave university and go out a bit and split up famously all over the papers. what was that all about? people are going to bound to want to know? >> well, to be honest, i would not believe everything that you read in the paper, but in that particular instance, we did split up for a bit, but it was just that we were both young at the university, and we were sort of both defining ourselves as such and become different characters and such. it was very much trying to find our own way and growing up, so it was a little bit of space and
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things like that, and it has worked out for the better e. >> i think that at the time, i wasn't very happy about it, but actually it made me a stronger person, and you find out things about yourself that you had not realized and i think that you can be quite consumed about a relationship when you are younger, and i valued that time for me as well, although i didn't think it at the time. but looking back. >> reporter: a chance to refocus? >> yes. >> reporter: this is a life in the public life to a degree that you cannot escape, and you both know that, and you are obviously know it better than kate does. you are protective of her? >> yes. of course, her and her family i want to make sure that they have the best sort of guidance and chance to see ewhat life has been like or what life is like in the family, and that is almost kind of why i had been waiting this long, is because i wanted to give her a chance to see and back out if she needed to, because it got too much,
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because i am trying to learn from lessons done in the past, and i wanted to give her the best chance to settle in, and see what happens the other side. >> i'm also glad that i have had the time to sort of grow and understand myself more as well. >> reporter: massive thing you are going into now, and obviously, marriage is a big thing for everyone, but in such a public way -- excited? little bitterfied? >> mostly excited and happy when the interview is over, but we are naturally excited and looking forward to spending the rest of our lives together and seeing what the future holds. >> reporter: kate, for you, you have a long time to contemplate this moment -- >> let's not overegg it. >> no, it is not, because i didn't know what sort of, i don't know the ropes really as the future, but now i'm willing to learn quickly and work hard.
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>> we will work together. >> reporter: and a lot of opportunities within the family, and a huge ability to change people's lives for the better e, and that is something that you have contemplated as well? >> yes, and i really hope that i can make a difference even in the smallest way. there is already plenty of speculation about the time and the place of the royal wedding, but it is a safe guess that william's best man is his younger brother prince harry, third in line for the throwne. harry made headlines when we learned he was secretly serving in afghanistan and we received a statement from prince harry and he says that i am delighted that my brother popped the question which means i get a sister, which i have always wanted. end of statement. don't expect another royal engagement any time soon, because harry broke up with his longtime girlfriend chelsea davie last month.
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all right. we are getting a statement in from the white house office of the press secretary and i will read it to you. at the request of the senate
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majority leader and the house minority leader john boehner, due to scheduling conflicts in organizing their caucuses, the president's meeting with bipartisan leaders will now take place at the white house on tuesday november 30th. earlier it was said a dinner at the white house this thurz d.a.r.e., bday but to surprise to many people, it was canceled. i got a letter from the mitch mcconnell saying it was not a slap to the white house. they say that the meeting was never set in stone or concrete and they were trying to have the meeting set at the right time and never formally agreeing to the meeting thursday even though the white house said it would take place this thursday, but they are pushing back on the notion that this is slap of some sort of the republican leader ship to the white house.
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they insist it is not, and just a matter of scheduling conflicts and now the white house says that the meeting is rescheduled for tuesday november 30th, and we will give people more prepare for the meeting. other stories coming into "the situation room." more on charlie rangel speaking out about the guilty charges leveled against him today. what is the latest, mary? >> well, congressman rangel is blasting an ethics subcommittee saying there is clear and con vipsi i vincing evidence that he violated house ethics rules. he is accused of failing to pay taxes on a vacation house and using a rent controlled apartment here in new york for political purposes. he just spoke about it. >> i am really disappointed, because i have never heard of the possibility of someone being accused of something and not having the time to get a lawyer.
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they say well, you have known about this over two years. well, for over two years i have had a lawyer and a $2 million billed, so i don't see what the issue is that i have screamed for a hearing and of course, i meant a fair hearing with counsel and with witnesses. >> now the subcommittee will recommend punishment to the full ethics committee which is expected to reprimand, but not expel rangel. >> thank you, mary, very, very much. he is called the merchant of death, and he faces charges right now in the united states. stand by. chevrolet sprang bolt by bolt, car by car, out of the very best america had to offer. ingenuity. integrity. optimism. and a belief that the finest things are the most thoughtfully made -- not the most expensive. today, the american character is no less strong. and chevrolet continues as an expression of the best of it. bringing more technology to more people
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patdowns and the body imagining machines, but today some of the outrage came from those conducting and defending the screening. >> you touch my junk, i am going the have you arrested. >> reporter: john tyner's reaction to a patdown is legend. but a homeland security official says that the shame is tyner is being turned into a hero. tuesday, the tsa called the screeners to say they had done a good job. >> cool, calm, and professional and that what we expect. >> reporter: according the a poll, 81% of americans support the full body imageers, but the day before thanksgiving, the busiest day of the year is growing according to organizers and one group is urging americans not the fly that day to protest tas's machines and patdowns. >> blen ywhen you want to fondl
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grandma's breasts, that is too far or nude photography to tell whether a man is circumcised or not, that is too far. >> reporter: they have used sexual assault and molestation and visual rape to describe the patdowns and scans. but the tsa says it is on the right side of the law. >> it is a reasonable search, because it is conducted to stop terrorist attacks and stop people from bringing weapons or bombs on to airplanes. >> reporter: air safety is the bottom line for kerry le mack who lost her mother on 9/11 and shy is calling for more reasoned discussion. >> i understand that people may not be comfortable with the security measures, but they can't complain, but they have to come up with better reasons and better ideas, because unfortunately the terrorists are still out there and plotting and trying to execute the plots everyday. >> reporter: the nation's most famous pilot chesley sullen
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burger is weighing in concerned about the radiation expose sure for pilots who go through the scanning machines frequently. there is every indication that the screening of pilots is going to be modified, but dhs says it has to plans to change how it screens the public despite the uproar. >> we will see how that works out. thank you, jeanne. and now the merchant of death is now extra tidited to t united states. what do you know? >> well, he has been in the custody of thai officials, and now about to face the american courts and we should learn more about the man who was a mythical player in the world of arms dealing. >> this looks like a -- >> reporter: viktor bout is believed to have cut a slice so large, he is largely responsible
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for nicolas cage's role in "lord of war." and now bout is in u.s. custody extradited from thailand to face terrorism charges. u.s. officials say in a sting operation he agreed to sell planes and arms to the farc which is a rebel group they have been battling for decades. he is believed to have funneled weapons from afghanistan to russia. he is known as a family man, but also a bully who would barge in on government meetings. >> if you look at the wars directly impacted by his weapons delivery, they escalate directly to the amount of weapons arriving, so tens of thousands of people suffered is or if not hundreds of thousands due to the weapons he sold. >> reporter: at that time, he
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denied that he sold weapons to the afghanistan. >> reporter: have you met osama bin laden? >> well, if i had, i would have done something to stop it. >> reporter: did he appear to you as a big guy? >> no, he wanted the record straight and i'm innocent. no vibes that he was malevolent, but it is impossible to judge. >> reporter: western officials say there was evidence that bout shipped weapons to africa for blood diamonds. and he routinely met with liberian leader and other war louts. but bout, a former soviet officer is extradited and the russians are angry. why are they so humiliated? >> because he has ties to go high into the russian infrastructure and he comes out
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of the high intelligence infrastructure and he knows a lot that they would rather the world not know about. >> i asked an official at the russian embassy about that and he would not comment, but joses that viktor bout is innocent, and that the russian government will do what they can to assist him. >> and now they have suspicions of why the extradite him to th states? >> they said it was because of unprecedented political pressure by the u.s. government. that's their words. the attorney general didn't comment on that. it will lead to more tensions between the u.s. and russia over this case. >> thanks very much for that. jack cafferty is coming up next. [ beeping ] ♪ my country ♪ 'tis of thee ♪ sweet land ♪ of liberty
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let's go right to jack. would you pay extra an airplane flight with no children? ray in knoxville, tennessee, i sure would. i'd pay extra for restaurants, theaters and stores without children. i'd pay to not having a kid kick the seat behind me after a four-hour flight and unusual unexpected delay i'd pay $50 for
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a ride without kids. i take a train when i can. deb writes once you start creating special flights with kid-free flights, then the trains, buses and subways will be next. sorry kids and crying babies are part of life, you were one once. mike writes after enduring an overnight flight to peru with a squalling brats, the parents didn't want to discipline their little angel, i would have paid an extra c note to anybody who would have stuck a cork in thatle little monster. suzanne in roseville, california. parents ought to be the ones to pay extra. on a flight n-a strauntd n-a museum. too many special occasions have been ruined by bratty, whiny kids, and indifferent mothers and fathers. i would rather sit next to a smoker than a screaming brat. in south carolina why don't we all buy our own jet to we won't
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be bothered by other people on our flight. annie writes i'd pay for a flight that didn't experience more groping at the gate than in my bedroom. i'd give up my first born if it made it possible to fly without children. if you want to read more, go to the blog. >> thanks very much. awkward moments with chris williams and his fiancee. jeanne moos is next.
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young, royal and under a spotlight. here's cnn's jeanne moos. >> talk about a royal hot flash. for the prince and the commoner -- >> prince william got engaged. >> the long wait was over. >> the british papers were called for waity katie because she spent so long waiting for him to propose. >> how long have they known each other? >> on and off again eight years. >> nine years. >> they knew each other for ten years. >> how many years? >> a lot. it's been -- >> in the obligatory postengagement interview he modestly looked down and bit his lip. she smiled and looked poised. the prince made a few funny faces. and the only public display of affection was when he patted her. they did well, no gaffes.
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>> you both look incredibly happy and relaxed. >> we are, we are. we're like sort of ducks. very calm on the surface but little feet under the water. >> he talked about the engagement ring, the same sapphire his father gave diana. >> it was my way of making sure my mother didn't miss out. >> the news of the engagement was so sudden, networks were left scrambling. >> what else can you tell us? >> well, i'm not exactly sure what you've already said. this has been a real rush. >> cbs tried to interview the prime minister. >> sir, good morning to you. are you able to hear? oh, he is speaking to the public there, and so we are able to listen in. unfortunately, weren't able to listen in. >> and this f word was the word of the day. >> finally! >> finally. >> engaged to kate middleton. >> finally. >> finally prince william saw the light. >> finally engaged. >> finally. >> but the prince laughed off their long relationship.