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>> i have already said i'm going to download it. just kidding. going to our last question of the evening from the audience. >> i was going to ask what you are talking about, which is the unintended consequence of technology helping polarized the nation more. my question comes down to this, what roles do you see yourself having on actually using technology so we can graduate and use it as a way to work together? there is so much overlap on issues like immigration that different sides agree on. when you go into this world of sorting and dividing, i'm not going to work with that person because they are so evil. that's kind of what is
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happening. my question is how important is that for you at brigade and what are your thoughts on how to work on that? >> it is critical. our mission is to empower people through collective action. we want to help people will real influence. learning where you stand on the issues and forming an opinion on things is an important starting place, but we have a long way to go to build the tools for those people to come together and collaborate. the brigades are actually that, people who have a common vision for getting things done. they use technology to meet off-line and work together to build amazing things. somewhere in electoral politics
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we want to connect new people to work together. myon't know which of neighbors care about the same issues i care about. finding ways to reconnect with those people and give them tools to get things done is the long-term vision. >> we can connect around getting the policy we think matches our values. if you care about immigration, one of the things i was doing was working with the domestic policy council. that was when we still thought we would pass immigration reform at the legislative level. since then many wonderful people have come to silicon valley to
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administrative things that have to happen if her going to process many more people through. so there is common ground around getting the policies to actually work using digital technology. >> that was our last question. thank you from the audience. toore we close i want to go our tradition. i would like to ask each of you, what are your 60 second ideas to change the world? [laughter] >> obviously personal crowd fundraising. [laughter] >> i was trying to be efficient in silicon valley style and do it in 10 seconds. thingk the most important
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for changing the world is education. it's giving people the to reach their full potential. that can happen in a wide array of things. if you can start with early childhood and work your way through where people can learn a specific skill set, more than anything else that is on the long arc of making our country a better place. say i think if we all believed and held government accountable to it working for us and for the people it needs to help, not just us, the people who need to rely on government more, we would live in a fundamentally different world. that itthe believe could be and the ability to make it as effective as we need it to be is a powerful idea.
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it's not only about the delivery of government services, but it turns out that if we make the delivery of those government services work in the way that uber work, you get real-time data about what programs work, and then government really can work as effectively at the policy level. >> i could not agree more with everything you guys have said. >> i would just reframe it as a ,etter answer to that question i want to live in a world where people take pride in having opinions and being engaged in doing things, not just with their voice but with their hands.
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this may be a sad statement on humanity, but i think we will have to measure those things and they will have to be recorded and it will have to be part of our civic identity online and our identity of who we are online. that havingis opinions, having a stake in society and contributing through my voice and my hands, making that aspirational is the big idea and it's what we are trying to build. >> thank you so much. those were great answers. i'm zero to be on stage with you tonight. can we just give our panelists around of applause. [applause] >> thank you, everyone.
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[captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit] >> the i will caucuses are on monday and coming up, senator bernie sanders speaks to united steelworkers at des moines. then donald trump speaks to reporters, announcing he will on attend the foxnews debate thursday. after that, hillary clinton speaks to voters in marshalltown, iowa. >> on the next washington journal, alan mollohan on reforming federal prisons. after that, when six days before the iowa caucuses, our guest is benjamin ginsberg, former national council for the 2012 mitt romney campaign. you can join the conversation with your calls and comments on facebook and twitter.
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>> next, senator bernie sanders speaks at a local chapter of the united steelworkers in des moines, iowa. policy, about trade expanding unions, and points out his differences with hillary clinton. this is 40 minutes. [cheers and applause] [crowd chanting "bernie!"] >> let me begin by thanking you for inviting me to be with you today. thank you steve, for the introduction. and most of all, thanking the
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steelworkers for their long support of what i've been trying to do throughout my entire political career. i don't get any money and i don't want any money from corporations. never got a nickel. [applause] don't want any money from the billionaire class. [applause] but i am very grateful for the support that i've received from the steelworkers throughout my entire political career. thank you, guys, very, very much. [applause] when i went to college i studied some economics, but the real economic lesson that i learned was when i was a kid. i grew up in a home where my dad had come from poland at the age of 17 without a nickel in his pocket.
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never made much mother. mother graduated high school. i lived in a 3 1/2-room rent controlled apartment in brooklyn, new york, and we lived not poor, but our family lived on the financial stress as is the case with millions and millions of our families today. so the major economic lesson that i have had in my life was not in high school or college. it was as a kid understanding what financial stress does to a family, understanding that every decision that is made has got to be thought about, whether you can afford to do this or whether you can afford to do that. and that, brothers and sisters, is a lesson i have never forgotten and i never will forget. [applause] you know, one of the reasons i think our campaign is doing well
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is because we try to talk about the real issues impacting the very people. don't necessarily do what the media wants us to do but talk about real issues. just turned out yesterday, we were in iowa falls. had a few hundred people out to a meeting and i kind of opened up the discussion to ask people what was going on in their lives, what was going on in their lives in terms of trying to make it on $12,000, $13,000 a year social security. and suddenly what was it like in their lives if you can't afford the prescription drugs that you need. i want to thank the nurses, our sisters and brothers that are nurses here -- [cheers and applause] who know these issues. who know what it means to be treating patients who can't afford prescriptions. and i opened it up, the discussion.
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one woman gets up there and says the medicine her family needed -- her husband needed shot way up. shot way up to an outrageous price and we all know that tomorrow as you walk into a drugstore to refill your prescription, the price could be double or triple than what it was today. some of you have that experience, right? because the pharmaceutical industry is ripping off the american people. [applause] so people say, we don't have a lot of money. the prescription drugs goes up. one woman was -- making the point, millions of people in this country -- we don't talk about it terribly much -- trying to get by on $12,000, $13,000 a year on social security. you do the arithmetic. tell me how you pay for
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prescription drugs, how do you heat your home, how do you buy the food you need on $12,000 or $13,000 a year? and the answer is exactly right, you don't. you don't. [applause] and then we got republicans going around the country lying, as they occasionally do -- [laughter] and they're saying social security is going broke. we have to cut social security benefits. now, just stop and think about it. forget politics. tell me how somebody can go around the country when we know that millions of people, seniors, disabled vets, people with disabilities, people who can't make it on $12,000, $13,000 a year and they're talking about cutting social security benefits. there's a thing that a lot of people have not heard of. it's called the chain c.p.i. it's a fancy term from
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washington to cut social security benefits, and it argues the theory behind it is that the colas, the cost-of-living adjustments that seniors are getting today are too generous. does anybody here know what seniors got in their cola last year? zero! too generous. got to cut it. anyhow, at iowa falls we heard from people, i'm not getting $12,000, $13,000 a year. i'm trying to live on $10,000 a year. then we heard another woman talk about what it means to have minimum wage jobs and how difficult it is to survive. and that is the reality for millions and millions of people in this country.
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it's a reality we don't talk enough about, and it's certainly a reality that we are not effectively addressing. now, here's the story. if we were a poor country -- and there are poor countries around the world -- you have a certain type of discussion. and you say, you know, it's unfortunate that we have to live in poverty but that's who we are. we're a poor country. we can't have good education, we can't have good health care, we can't have decent paying jobs. we're a poor country, but the truth is, as everybody here knows, the united states of america is not a poor country. we are the wealthiest country in the history of the world. but -- but most people don't know that because almost all of the new wealth and income is going to the top 1%. and brothers and sisters, what a sanders administration is about is a very radical idea. you ready for a radical idea? we're going to create an economy
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that works for working families, not just billionaires. [cheers and applause] and not only that, in the last 30 years, as everybody in this room knows, technology has exploded. almost every worker in america is more productive than he or she was 20 years, 30 years ago, right? you're producing more. question -- if you are more productive, if we are producing more, why are millions of people working longer hours for lower wages? >> greed! senator sanders: why is almost all income and wealth going to a small number of people? >> greed! senator sanders: it's a smart group here.
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[laughter] and that's what we're going to deal with. so we are going to tell billionaires who pay an effective tax rate lower than many of you do, we're going to tell large multinational corporations who make billions of dollars a year in profit and stash their money in the cayman islands and bermuda and in a given year may pay zero in federal income taxes, we're going to tell them that it is time for them to accept their responsibility as americans to start paying their fair share of taxes. [cheers and applause] and when we eliminate that cayman islands loophole and when we raise a trillion dollars in
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new revenue, you know what we're going to do with that? we're going to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure and create millions of decent paying jobs. [applause] this is the united states of america, the greatest country on the face of the earth. you tell me why our roads, our bridges, our water systems, our waste water plants, our levees, our dams, our airports, our rail system are deteriorating or crumbling? >> republicans! senator sanders: all right. we need to invest in a $1 trillion investment, which i believe we should make, creates 13 million decent paying jobs. [applause] including a lot of good steelworker jobs. [applause]
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now, every person in this room -- because the steelworkers are one of the great unions in our country. you understand the history of the trade union movement. and you understand that change, real change never comes from the top on down. it always comes from the bottom on up. [applause] and you understand the way back when employers did not say, well, i think it's a great idea for workers to have a union. we'd love to sit down and do some collective bargaining with you. because we think that's fair and that's right. that's not the way it happened. the way it happened is way back when workers went on strike, workers fought and workers died, workers were beaten, workers
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were fired from their jobs in order to make sure that working people could organize, could engage in collective bargaining, could sit down at a table and fight for decent wages and decent working conditions. that's the history of the trade union movement. and we should be proud of that. but what all of you know is that over the last several decades, despite the fact that millions of workers want to join a union, it has become harder and harder for workers to in fact create unions, to become members of unions. you know and i know that employers have acted illegally with the support of the nlrb so that if workers tried to organize the organizers there would be fired and if by some miracle people actually did organize a union, employers would refuse to engage in a first contract, collective
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bargaining. and that is why i believe that the middle class does not grow unless the trade union movement grows. [cheers and applause] the middle class does not prosper unless workers are engaged in strong collective bargaining. now, what a lot of people, what a lot of nonunion people don't understand is that to the degree they get anywhere near decent wages, it has a lot to do with the success of the trade union movement. because you're driving wages up. in any case, after decades of illegal action on the part of employers, it seems to me we have got to make it easier, not harder, for workers to join
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unions. that's why we have introduced a new piece of legislation and it says very simply that if 50% of workers in a unit plus one sign a card saying they want to be in a union, they will have a union. [applause] senator sanders: here's the truth. here's the truth. not going to tell you that every worker in america wants to join a union, but what i will tell you is that millions of them do. millions of them understand that workers who have a union get better wages, better working
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conditions and better benefits. and our job is to say that the american people must be able to exercise their constitutional right to organize unions without illegal impediments on the part of employers, and that is what i intend to do. [applause] i mentioned earlier that there are millions of seniors and disabled veterans in this country, and by the way, as the former chairman of the senate committee on veterans' affairs, let me thank all of the men and women in this room and in this country for their service to our country. [applause] for their putting their lives on the line to defend this country. and here's a promise i make.
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is that we will do our best, absolute best, and there should not be any debate about this if you're a progressive, democrat or republican. when people put their lives on the line to defend this country and they come home, they are going to get the best health care available, they're going to get the benefits that they earned. [applause] but here's the difference that secretary clinton and i have on a very important issue. i believe that when millions of seniors and disabled vets are struggling to get by on $12,000 or $13,000 a year, it is not good enough to say -- and i've
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led the effort on this, that we're not going to cut social security. that is an abomination. what we must do is say, of course we're not going to cut social security, but we are going to expand social security benefits. [applause] and here is how we are going to do it. it is not complicated. right now somebody makes $5 million a year, somebody makes $118,000 a year, they both contribute the same amount into the social security trust fund. if you lift that cap and you start at $250,000 and above, top 1.5% of the american people, what we can do is increase social security benefits for those now living under $16,000 a year by $1,300 a year. that's not insignificant for people who are struggling. [applause] and when we do that
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we also extend the life of social security from 19 years to 50 years. now, that is my view. i think -- i think that at a time of massive income and wealth inequality, when the wealthy are getting much wealthier, you know what, i think it is just appropriate, just right to lift that cap and ask the wealthiest people in this country to make sure that all seniors can live in dignity. [applause] that is my view, as secretary clinton drops in, ask her her view. i don't think she agrees. now, when we talk -- when we talk about why it is that the great middle class of this country is disappearing, why it is that we have 47 million people living in poverty, why it
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is that we have massive wealth and income inequality, one -- one of the important reasons is our disastrous trade policies. [applause] you are looking at a former united states congressman. i represented vermont in the congress for 16 years and a senator today. you are looking at a member of the senate who in his life voted against nafta, against cafta, against pntr with china. [applause] senator sanders: and by the way,
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is helping to lead the opposition to the t.p.p. now -- [applause] look, everybody in this room understands what these disastrous trade agreements are about. you all know who wrote these trade agreements. not complicated. the steelworkers did not write these trade agreements. they are written by corporate america to benefit corporate america, people who could care less about what these trade agreements did to working families. here's what they've done. since 2001 in america, we have lost 60,000 factories. got that? in my state, in iowa, all across this country, 60,000 factories. not all of that, to be fair, is attributable to trade. there are other reasons factories shut down, but a lot of it is attributable to trade.
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and when you lose 60,000 factories, many of them attributable to disastrous trade agreements, you're talking about the loss of millions of good-paying american jobs. [applause] everybody knows what the purpose of these trade agreements were supposed to do. they did exactly what corporate america wanted them to do, what they were designed to do is to say, why should we pay workers in the united states $20, $25, $30 an hour, provide decent benefits, negotiate with unions, protect the environment, why would any corporation want to d that when they could shut down in america, throw people out on the street, move to china, move
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to mexico, move to low-wage countries, pay people pennies an hour, not have to worry about the environment, not have to do deal with unions and they can bring their products right back in this country? >> greed! senator sanders: the simple truth is, and it's indisputable, these trade agreements have been a disaster for working families in this country. they have benefited the c.e.o.'s of large multinational corporations. no one can deny that reality. i am proud to tell you that way back when i was on the picket line in opposition to nafta and helped lead the opposition against all these trade agreements. i got to tell you also. these trade agreements have been supported not just by republicans but by some democrats as well. we got to acknowledge that. where we are today is to say when our country is deindustrializing -- do you know what i mean by that? when you tell me, how are we a great nation if we're not
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purchasing the products that we need that are made in our country? can you be a great country? can you be a great country where everything you buy is made in china? i don't think so. i don't think so. and by the way -- this is another important point to be made. it is not only the loss of jobs, it is what we call the race to the bottom. so here's what's going on. people are saying -- and this is a good thing. people are saying, well, you know what, we're seeing an uptick in manufacturing in america. good. take a look at the wages that those new manufacturing jobs are paying. there was once a time when manufacturing jobs, unionized manufacturing jobs were the gold standard for the working class of this country. you had a good job in a manufacturing plant, you had a union, you were making middle-class wages and middle-class benefits.
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but then -- i tell you a story. a couple years ago in louisville, kentucky, general electric announced they were expanding their manufacturing capabilities creating a couple hundred jobs. some people were very excited about it. and they asked this guy from g.e. why are you doing this? he said, well, it turns out that if you add all of the these things together, transportation costs and the fact that wages in america have gone down, it is actually more competitive to do manufacturing in america now than in china because wages have gone down so much so they're paying people in manufacturing $10, $12 an hour. now, if manufacturing workers are getting paid $10, $12 an hour, what do you think other people are getting working? this is a race to the bottom. not to bring chinese wages up to where we are, it's to bring our
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wages down to where chinese wages were. [applause] [applause] so this t.p.p., they want us to support the t.p.p., they want our people to compete against workers in vietnam. i have nothing against workers in vietnam. i was there. they work very hard. vietnam is 65 cents an -- minimum wage in vietnam is 65 cents an hour. i do not want american workers to have to compete against people who are making 65 cents an hour. [applause] so we have to take a deep breath. we have to understand that our trade policies have failed and
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we have to begin an entirely new set of policies. and the bottom line for me is that every major corporation in america wants all of us to buy their products. can't turn on the tv, buy this, buy that, buy that. well, if they want us to buy their products, they damn well better start manufacturing those products back in the united states and not in china. [applause] senator sanders: let me touch on another important issue, and i'm glad our brothers and sisters from the nurses union -- and we thank you so much for your support. [applause] reason that the nurses are supporting our campaign is that


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