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the super bowl approaches. d at 9:15, dave levinthal on campaign 2016 fundraising and spending. >> on capitol hill today, flint, michigan, takes center stage. of course, the issue with the drinking water there will be looked at by the house oversight and government reform committee. the hearing starts up live in two hours on our companion network, c-span3. president obama at the white house this morning is preparing to head to baltimore, where he'll meet with muslim community leaders, actually his first visit to an american mosque since the -- since becoming president, and there are several presidential candidates who would like to occupy 1600 pennsylvania avenue. look for chris christie, john
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kasich and jeb bush on the c-span sweat works today. what issue is driving to you vote this year? we'd like to hear from new voters this wednesday morning. who are you? where are you? what are you anything what is driving you this year? we welcome comments at 202-748-8000. everyone else out there, call 202-748-8001. if not by phone, you can weigh in at social media. cspanwj is our twitter handle. or go to facebook. look forward to talking to all of you on this wednesday more than. we're going to begin with a short piece from a peach by ted cruz yesterday. we covered him in windom, new hampshire. after winning the iowa caucuses, he gave his take on what is driving voters this cycle. mr. cruz: the media doesn't wanted why people are so ticked
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off with washington. but when you start mortgaging the future of our kids and grand kids, people have a way of getting fairly irritated bout that. the reason we're here today is e want our country back. [applause] this is a movement from the people. it is the movement of people of who are furious with career politicians in both parties who get in bed with lobbyists and special interests and grow and grow and grow. host: the take from ted cruz in new hampshire. we'll hear from several of the presidential candidates during this first 45 minutes of the program.
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on facebook, nick writes, about driving him this year, all voters should look at the whole package, he writes. if you're a one-issue voter, you really need to expand your thought process. kevin says social security, income inequality, minimum wage increase, climate change, women's rights and alike. ann says, i always vote but want to see a republican defeated because i believe they are responsible for the gridlock in d.c. meantime, judy writes i always vote. what is driving me this year is we need to vote out the crazy republicans, as i have every year since reagan. jamaica writes, fear we're going to put another american citizen into a concentration camp or reservation like we did to japanese, indians, gays, afro americans, etc. history seems to be repeating itself, and that is sad. and john is on the line from warrenton, virginia. john, good morning. caller: good morning. host: what is driving you to vote this year, sir?
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caller: oh, i'm one of your old -- i was a political science major back in the 1990's, and i used to listen to washington journal every morning before i went to the university of maryland, and i can see your and going. this is the first time i've called in 15 years. host: why the delay? caller: well, to be honest with you, i used to listen to c-span, and these crazy callers used to call in, and they would bring up these issues and kind of be disruptors. they would bring up info wars nd 9/11 truth. i got my degree at the university of maryland, and i went back to my regular job. i decided not to get into politics. but over the years i did my research and found out that some of this stuff that these
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disruptive callers bring up is compelling. host: we are glad -- caller: this is the most important issue on my mind. host: go ahead, sir. caller: microsoft volunteered to keep track of the voting in iowa. and as soon as i heard that, i no longer trust the results of iowa. being a political science major the way i am, i'm not a professional -- i'm a businessman now. but from a political perspective, the fact that out here in the hinderland, we no longer trust the system. it's a very interesting topic. why do we not believe? what is it i've learned on alternative media that causes me to no longer trust the system? look at the way it turned out last year in iowa. what did they come out with -- four years ago in iowa.
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who was the winner? was it romney? two weeks later, they determined it was rick santorum, i can't remember. it took away all the momentum santorum might have received, plus santorum wasn't even very well known in iowa. i think do your homework, go to things are not as they appear in the mainstream media. for example, i watched fox over the last week for the first time in five years. host: ok. caller: and after being away from fox, because i'm traditionally conservative, still a registered republican, even though i don't like the mainstream republicans. it's very easy to see how mainstream media, in this case fox, is manipulating the process. for example, when trump decided
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not to participate in the last debate, they went into action to tear him down. they've been tearing him down ever since. host: all right, john, thanks for your feedback this morning. randall is calling from texas now. randall, how about you? what issue or issues are getting you to the polls this year? caller: well, it's the first time i voted since jimmy carter, 1976. host: how come? caller: well, i couldn't. i got a d.w.i., and i had to forfeit my right to vote. but i just got off the d.w.i., and i -- i right back to vote february 1 to get the primary. but a lot of issues. it's out of whack. the administration is making way too much money. i even know personal salary. the tarp, the bailout in 2007
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was absurd. i used to do the stock market when i was 16, 1967, and we were investing those days. this is a crap shoot, excuse my language. and then people, since 1979, the workers, wages have not kept up with corporate profits, and just so many things. and then i worked with george mcgovern in 1972. i got to go to seattle and hooked up the very first presidential phone for potential voters. just so many fines are coming across. like you're going talk about the flint water crisis. on cnn this morning, they were showing the mayor, and, of course, the first thing they say is the republican banker is going to pay for it, and that means they can stay indoors, stay in the air conditioning with their white collars and ties, and it's really simple. host: so randall, you said you're going to vote -- caller: let me say this to you.
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they just announced it, they're going to pass a $5 billion fine. will that finance flint's water crisis instead of having to talk about paul ryan going to go up and down the corridor and y'all voting, waiting to see how they're going to finance it, complain about it, and argue back and forth. let's just cut that seal off the show. host: thanks for calling. t.j. at twitter this morning, we need a president to protect the border and protect the constitution, especially the second amendment. that is the view of t.j. we look forward to more of your calls. looking forward to hearing from new voters. if you're a new voter, first-time voter this year, call the following number, 202-748-8000. we really look forward to hearing from and you what you're anticipating. what's felting you out to the
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polls this year for the first time? looking forward to hearing your voice. a little followup to iowa in "usa today." the polls missed the verdict of the voters is the headline. it says that donald trump felt cocky on the eve of monday's caucus, as he had good reason. 13 polls showed him winning that presidential contest. they were all wrong. but senator cruz trumped the pollsters and his rifle to come out on top. on the democratic side, the majority of recent polls gave clinton an edge over her main rival, vermont senator bernie sanders. clinton eked out a very narrow win. they write that anyone who predicted the outcome deserves a "special pundit medal of honor", says a post-election analysis for the cook political report.
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host: that's the lead story in "usa today" this morning. off to new hampshire now, "the washington post" and just about everybody else focusing on marco rubio and his showing on monday night. many folks calling it a surprise showing somewhat. it's shifting the new hampshire race, writes "the washington post." host: here is chris christie. mr. christie: you know me. unlike some of the other campaigns, i'm not the boy in
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the bubble. you know who the boy in the bubble is up here who never answers your questions, who's constantly scripted and controlled, because he can't answer your questions. so when senator rubio gets here, when the boy in the bubble gets here, i hope you guys ask him some questions. because it's time for him to start answering questions. he wants to say this race is over. seems to me he should have to sit across from and you absence your questions the way i do and you and you and you. and he hasn't. so now it's time for him to man up and step up and stop letting all of his handlers write his speeches and handle him. because that's what they do. but that's what you have to do for somebody who's never done anything in their life. let's get him up here. let's get the boy in the bubble out of the bubble. let's see if he'll answer some of your questions. let's see if he'll gaggle with you every day like i do every day when i'm here. let's see if he'll answer your questions and stand up, because i don't think he will, and you know why, because i don't think he can. so if he likes a challenge -- i'd be happy every day, i'll
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have as many gaggles as marco rubio has. if he wants to answer tough questions about flip-flops on immigration, he wants to answer tough questions about his lack of record and experience, he wants to answer your questions about why he ran away from his own immigration bill when it got too hot, i'm fascinated to hear the answers, and i'm sure you will be too, and maybe he'll answer more than two our three questions at a town hall meeting and do more than 40 minutes on a little stage, you know, telling everybody his speech that he's memorized over the course of time. this is not a student council election, everybody. this is an election for president of the united states. let's get the boy in the bubble out of the bubble and see him play for the next week in new hampshire. i'm ready to play. i hope he is. because i'll be ready to see him on saturday night. host: at the same time, the "new york times" writes about marco rubio, new lines of attack is the "new york times" story. they say his tally in iowa, 23% of the vote came within one percentage point of donald trump, gave the campaign
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another jolt of energy when good fortune seems to be breaking his way. they point out that wall street financiers are increasingly moving to support him as disclosure this is week by a super p.a.c. backing him made clear. he picked up an endorsement in south carolina from the lone black republican in the senate. and seizing the chance to shift donors and voters his way is the subhead to that piece. back to calls now. katherine from north conway, new hampshire. what issue is driving you out to the polls this year? caller: global warming, and i have a comment. it will take less than a must not and a question. i think all candidates running for president should address global warming and read tom hartman's book, "last hours of humanity." it's about the warming of the world to extinction, carbon dioxide, methane, and going over the tipping point. if one thing thinks the middle
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east, ebola are dire, it is nothing compared to what we are leaving future generations. and if we do not talk priority, make it a top priority, global warming, will we not be abusers of our children and grandchildren? and finally, i'm not an alarmist, but climate change is a really, really serious issue. and i thank you. host: thanks for calling. rob is on the line from new york. rob, good morning. caller: my biggest issue this year again is the wars. i'm really -- i'm 53 years old, and wee been at war my entire life, and i think it's time to end that. and i don't think the two-party system is going to help in that regard. that's why i will only vote for a third party, because i feel the other two parties are both beholden to big business.
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host: all right. that was rob. let's go to george now in florida. good morning, george. caller: yes, flipping a coin, that's ridiculous. might as well do rock, paper and scissors or arm wrestling. get rid of the machines, ecause i don't trust them. i delivered about global warming. the whole world, the only people they don't believe is republicans are running for president. it's unbelievable. i mean, i put my money on the scientists, 99.8 are the scientists because they have my money and the republicans were running for president. tomorrow going to be broke, and i'm going to be in the streets.
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i mean, bernie right now, we need to vote for bernie because he stent believe in wars. he believes in expanded social security, medicare, medicare, and the republicans say they want to prioritize it. they want to prioritize it, which means they want to destroy it. they've been looting it since reagan. host: thanks for calling, george. want to remind folks about our political coverage today. we have several candidates we're following with cruz in the state of new hampshire. governor chris christie is out there, along with jeb bush and con kasich. governor of kasich will be on at 4:00 today live on c-span3. a couple of hours later, also on 3 is jeb bush, the former governor. he'll be in laconia, new
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hampshire. over on c-span2 it's fwoverpb nor chris christie from new jersey. he'll number milford, new hampshire, all live today on the network. we do have a new voter on the line now. it is edna calling from ohio. good morning. caller: hello. yes, the way it is today, the politicians only need you for one thing and one thing only, to vote. once you vote, then they don't want to see you for six years. they're going to do what they want to do, because they don't care what you want. host: so edna, you're a new voter? caller: yes. host: so let me ask you a couple of questions, if i may. how old are you? caller: 30. host: you're 30, and what is getting you out to the polls at the age of 30 for the first time? caller: because i like trump. common sense tells you. these politicians, they're getting millions and millions of dollars from these people. nobody agoing to give you
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millions of dollars and not want something, because trump said the same thing. he's played that game. he gave money to like hillary and everything, because he knows, when you want something, they'll give it to you. and they don't do cramp, but they're all for putting the boots on the ground. but once you come back, they don't do nothing for you. as far as the veterans in the hospital, they're not doing anything. the politicians, they're both coming down for however many years they're in for. host: so edna, voting for the first time, age of 30, donald trump is driving you out. what was missing for you in all of these years since you became a voting age? what wasn't there that you were looking for? caller: because they say all this stuff, and then when they get in there, they forgot what they told you.
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and i saw what cruz and rubio in iowa, what did they do? oh, i prayed twice a day. i couldn't care less if i prays 20 times a day. don't keep bringing up that and keep waving that i pray, i pray. who cares? i don't. host: thanks for calling, edna. we look forward to more new voters in this next 20, 225 minutes. edna mentioned donald trump. he's part of the hislines this morning following his second-place showing in iowa. "wall street journal" headline says there are new risks for trump now after his defeat in iowa. that's the front page of the "wall street journal" this morning. also, "financial times," trump bluster returns to haunt him. the tycoon played second fiddle as cruz's strategy pays off. that's the "financial times." and looking at "the washington times" this morning, iowa
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results dent the front-runner's hope. a subdued donald trump hit the trail in new hampshire tuesday, a day after voters delivered a painful setback in iowa. a second-place finish underscored his celebrity-based campaign, did you not survive his first contact with voters am they write the businessman llected the endorsement -- host: here's donald trump from new hampshire yesterday. mr. trump:? iowa they said don't go to iowa, you don't play in iowa. me. and i said why? i know people in iowa, they're great people. they said no, no, it's not going to work. so i said i have to do it, i want to go there. and i went there, and i think we did really well. e did really well. and they said if you get in the top 10, you'd be lucky.
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and it actually came out, the first time it was like number 10, then it went to eight, then five. and we finished number two, and frankly, hi known we could have finished number two, maybe i would have spent more time there. i would have taken a day or two off from here, but that wouldn't have been good. but you know, it's sort of interesting, because i'm very proud of this, i skipped the debate because i wasn't treated properly. host: we'll get to marco rubio a little bit later and, of course, the democrats as we continue to ask you, what issue is driving you to vote this election psych snell jan at twitter, do i want to choose the next supreme court justice, that's what's driving jan. as a voter, that is always my concern above any single issue. we're going to talk now about a hearing that's coming up in less than two hours live over on c-span3. it's the house oversight and government reform committee.
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susan bruninga joins us by phone. good morning. guest: good morning. host: the hearing looks at the flint, michigan, water situation. so set this up for us. we know there are a number of pros, both state and federal. we read the f.b.i. is involved now. what will this committee, house government -- house oversight and government reform, what are they specifically looking at this morning? guest: the committee has called before to testify. senior officials from the federal environmental protection agency, the head -- the acting head of the water office will be there, and they're going to be looking at what the environmental protection agency has done to implement -- to ensure that the safe drinking water act requirements were implemented in flint and what could have been done to keep this water crisis from happening. shoip the hearing is also making news for who won't be
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there today. explain who will not object the list and how the committee is handling that. guest: there's been a little bit of controversy around this committee hearing. a number of state legislators, democrats, and some members of the congressional, michigan congressional delegation said the committee should have invited michigan's governor rick snider to testify. the committee did not do that. i'm not sure why they didn't do that. i think they wanted to focus their hearing on e.p.a.'s efforts, and they are having having the director, the acting director of michigan's department of environmental quality. there was also some issue about whether the flint former emergency manager should be testifying, and my understanding is that he was invited to testify, but he declined. and now i am getting word that they may be issuing a subpoena for him, but i don't have that
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verified yet. host: so, moving this forward, will this be the first of many hearings by the committee and committees on the hill? guest: i think that congress will be -- yes, this is the first of many. this is the house oversight and government reform committee. i imagine that there will be hearings on the senate side as well, and maybe in some of the other committees on the house side. congress has the ability to conduct oversight hearings over the agencies that it funds and over the laws that it enacts. so this flint crisis has really blown up into a major issue, a national issue, and it's a public health crisis, and i'm sure that you will see congress taking a lot of interest in this. host: what has the committee been able to find out so far about the e.p.'s role with all of this? what's happening with the committee there up to this point? guest: well, they've been doing some of their investigations. they've got -- there's going to be a memo i think that's going
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to have a lot of role in the committee hearing, and it's a memo that was sent by a regulatory affairs manager within e.p.a.'s region five office that he sent to his boss, expressing his deep concerns about the situation in flint. and he basically said that e.p.a. needs to follow up with the state and the city on these recommendations to provide technical assistance on managing the water quality issues. he went further to say that they need to review the compliance status of the city with respect to violations of the safe drinking water act. d why it wasn't adding the control that needs to be added. so that's one starting point. and they'll be looking at what is the interaction between e.p.a. and the state. host: thanks for the setup. susan bruninga, senior editor of water law and policy center. thanks a lot for your time this
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morning. guest: thank you. good to talk to you. host: thanks. and two program reminders. this hearing of the house oversight and government reform committee starts up in an hour and a half at 9:00 a.m. eastern time, live over on c-span3 today. and coming up in about 20 minutes, a little bit less than 20 minutes on this program, is congressman dan kildee, he represents flint, michigan, the u.s. congress. so big story continuing to develop, and now reaching hearing stage in washington. we have david on the line now from georgia. david is calling about what issue is driving him to vote this year. hey, david. caller: hey, how you doing? host: doing well. are you there, david? caller: yes. host: good. glad to have you. caller: i've always been a voter. and i'm just trying to -- i've en watching him every time
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they get -- they don't do what they say they do to get in office, but here i am disabled. i'm looking for a president that will stick to their words , tead of all this, you know the -- just to get into office. therefore, need to have folks like me, struggling month o month, it's just ridiculous. host: who do you see out there that you like, david? caller: well, tonnest with you, bernie, he's sounding pretty good. bernie, he's sounding -- bernie. bernie, he's -- bernie, he's sounding pretty good. but like i say, you know, i
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love him. years w, here i am, 4 old, and i watched him, you know, i've been watching it and watching it. and trump, he's got enough money, i mean, you know, which that ain't always counts. but bernie talks about this business and stuff like this, but how many years we been democrat crat after in office, republicans for the rich. host: thanks for calling. david. george is calling from just outside d.c. george, you're a new voter, is that right? caller: yes, i am. host: how old are you, sir? caller: 25. host: so what is motivating you this year? what issues are bringing you out for the first time? caller: well, first of all, i just became a citizen of the united states in december. so i'm extremely proud.
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my family came here from colombia when i was 8 years old. the real reason i want to go out is because i see the loss of traditional values here in the states. we came here with nothing. our family came here with absolutely nothing. we were able to eke it out. i'm definitely going to vote republican this coming election. i'm supporting marco rubio, so i already answered it for you. host: how come? what do you see in marco rubio? caller: well, i connect a lot with his story of how his parents came here and how he was able to, you know, now become a u.s. senator. my parents gave it all for me. my mom worked hard, never took a government dime, never took a handout. we depended on our family as much as we could. and now i have the privilege of having gone to college. i'm in the third year of my master's degree, and here i am successful because of this country, the values that are instilled in us. that's why i want to keep those values. host: so you are a u.s.
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citizen. you're getting your advanced degree. what kind of work are you going to go into, george? caller: ironically, undergrad in political science, and my master's in public policy, so i definitely will be in the public policy arena. host: are there specific issues? you mentioned a person, marco rubio, you're supporting. but what specific issues at your age, first-time voter, from colombia, now living in silver spring, what's foremost on your mind? caller: the first thing is the economy. y got to get the economy straight, and it's out of control. those are the things that matter to our generation because we don't want to be left with a pile of debt to pay off to leave our children to pay off. definitely the economy is the number one issue. host: george, do your parents and family vote regularly back in colombia? caller: they do, yeah. they're part of the political process back there. it's kind of a family thing for us to be involved. host: ok. george, thanks for calling, sharing your situation.
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food luck. so we have marco rubio now from yesterday in new hampshire, talking about attracting new voters. here's a look. senator rubio: when up a nominee, i will unite this party and grow the conservative movement, by taking our principles to people that have not voted for us in the past and convincing them, as i know we can and i know we will, that our approach is better than what bernie sanders or hillary clinton is offering. host: back to the phones. steven on the line from ohio. steven, what issue is driving you to vote this year? caller: well, i have two issues. one thing, i'm for bernie sanders. i believe that bernie sanders is right about wall street. there are too many crooks up there. that's greed. to me, they're ruining this country. what i would do, i would take 50% of the profits of all the companies moving overseas, moving overseas, and i'd put -- put it back into american coffers. number two, i have to admit, i
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love me some donald trump. that man has guts. he tell it like it is. he doesn't want people like him. he just tell it the way it is. we have lost respect overseas, in my opinion, and we've lost our respect for traditional values. that's the way i feel. host: all right. and another new voter on the line, jury fred oregon. good morning, jared. caller: hey, how are you? host: good. so share with us your situation. how old are you? what are you doing these days? caller: i'm 40. i live in portland, oregon. i'd like to say that the last caller was awesome. my issue is with all of the republican candidates. i do not agree with them. i believe in the reason i'm voting this time is just to stay away from any kind of isolationist things and also to try and get away from where we are. we're losing people, and we're
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-- host: i think we lost that caller. let's try patricia from north carolina. patricia, your issue. what's driving you to vote this year? caller: i have always considered a privilege, not a right, to vote. i think that one has to do that. i became a citizen of this country many years ago because i wanted that privilege. d right now i want to see if they can fix washington. i'm a registered democrat. my husband was registered republican. and we both used to discuss in detail what was happening. and so i think that, really, to have this privilege, you have to look at the people, and i
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wasn't quite sure until a few minutes ago, and i thought that ted cruz made a lot of sense. i haven't made up my mind yet. but there's the immigration thing that could be easily fixed if everybody had to follow all the rules that i had to follow when i came to this country. host: thanks for calling, patricia. to the democrats, "washington post" has this headline, clinton allies settle in for lengthy battle over nomination, story out of des moines. but looking ahead, hillary clinton's hair-breath win over bernie sanders in the first contest of the nominating season has is not a loud message. every day from now until november is going to be a battle. that realization set in tuesday, but a party hierarchy that has united almost unanimously behind her candidacy, many on the assumption that the former secretary had practically a
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clear shot of the democratic standard-bearer -- host: here's a little bit from hillary clinton in new hampshire tuesday, making her pitch -- we'll hear from hillary clinton in a couple of minutes. but got a caller first from travis. travis is in washington. good morning. caller: good morning. yeah, i just wanted to say that i'll be a first already time voter, and i think i'm going to be voting for bernie sanders. i like what he's said about the political revolution and about how the banks are too big to fail, and how certain people on wall street are too big to jail. education, equality
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more money for schools, and i just -- i feel like that's my reason to vote. host: ok. that was travis. here's hillary clinton from new hampshire yesterday. secretary clinton: what i'm excited about, i think in the last few weeks, we have seen the arrival at the right time in this campaign for you to understand what the contest of ideas really is. between me and my esteemed opponent, senator sanders. i am excited by that, because that's the best way for you to make up your mind. what do we stand for? what do we think needs to be done? how do we believe we can do it together? how do we make a real difference in people's lives? how do we make sure this country that we care so deeply about stays true to its values, keeps providing opportunities, begins to go after the
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inequality, and not just economic inequality, we have to deal with racial inequal, with gender inequality, with sexual orientation inequality, with the kind of poverty of spirit that has too much influence over the lives of too many of our fellow americans. so i come to you with a lifetime of service and advocacy and of getting results. scommoip sticking with the democrats for a moment, "wall street journal" has this lead piece, democrats battle over the party's vision. here's the beginning of that iece --
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host: mrs. clinton describes herself as a progressive who gets things done. mr. sanders sees a more robust role for government than mrs. clinton and calls for significant new taxes and programs to address unmet needs -- host: here's a little bit more from bernie sanders himself. senator sanders: you know, it sounds to me like you're ready for a political revolution. [applause] >> revolution! senator sanders: it sounds to
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me like you're tired of establishment politics and establishment economics. and i don't know what to say, ecause i'll try. last night in iowa, we took on -- we took on the most powerful political organization in this country. last night we came back from a 50-point deficit in the polls. and last night we began the political revolution, not just in iowa, not just in new hampshire, but all over this country. host: down to our last several calls for this segment. what issue is driving you to vote this year? we have robert on the line from arizona. good morning, robert.
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caller: good morning. host: how are you? caller: i'm doing well. i'm going to vote for a woman, because i think a woman needs to be in there running this country. i was raised by my mother, not my father. when i did go to my father, he did a lot worse job than my father, and i think we need more women in congress. we need more women in the senate. i think we need less chaperone, and i think that -- our democratic party is listening to the republican and making hillary out, and we're starting to believe that she's a liar and that's why sanders is getting some popularity. and i think the young people in this country need to look at the history of this country and o some research and get on board, and i do think she is
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more pragmatic and would get things done, and i think that she's probably one of the most honest people we have out there . host: let's try -- sorry, i thought you were done there. let's move on to danny, georgia. danny, you're a new voter, we understand. caller: yeah. i just want to say that i'm 62 years old. nd i was -- i have cancer. i have kidney problems, heart problems. and i've watched this country politics a ed monopoly. it's like a joke to me. she is a liar. god forgive me for saying that, but i clearly don't know who to vote.
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only reason i would vote is trump. because he stands up on his own two feet. and everybody can't stand him because they afraid he is going to get in there and he will do something about these liars and something needs to be done. because i've been watching this since i was a little boy. and now i'm sitting here dying, and i hope i can make it to vote, but they cut my medicaid out and said i make too much money to draw medicare, and i'm still 62, and this -- our insurance, since obama got in there, he promsd all these things, and all he did is fill his pockets up with money and learn how to be a politician. host: danny, let me ask you a question. you said you were in your 60's, now voting for the first time. caller: 62. host: was it your health that kept you from voting, or was it some other reason? caller: i just never thought --
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when john f. kennedy got killed, i was in the fifth grade, and i actually cried, and it broke my heart, and i have never seen anybody -- clinton sold us out in china. i haven't seen anybody to vote for. i have never seen, some leaders, jimmy carter, we thought he was going to do something, and he was a disgrace. we have nobody. but trump stands on his own, and he don't lie, because he don't have a reason to. host: john is our last call from pennsylvania. john, you get the last word for this segment. what is driving you to vote this year? caller: good morning. this is always a pleasure to be on c-span. let me tell you, as a voter, i love to vote. i do not miss very many
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elections, and i think it's a shame that voter turnout is low, especially in midterms and elections we don't have a presidential election. but i tell you what, the big issue for me, i'm an environmentalist. i'm a fisherman. i work outdoors. i see our infrastructure, water quality problems. flint, michigan, the western end of lake erie, you can't even drink the water in the summertime. west virginia, water quality of river, chemical spills. california, methane leaks. alaska dealing with mudding issues with the canadians over mine pollution in alaska waters. there's a whole issue. the climate change issue needs to be addressed. and what's sad is the republican party, i know there's a lot of smart people in the republican party, but they do not address climates, environmental issues at all. it's a shame what's going on in
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michigan and now sebring, ohio, with lead pipes, and western lake erie with the water quality and climate change. why don't the republican party address environmental problems? they shove it under the rug, and all you hear is we don't want obama's healthcare, we don't want this or that. i don't want to hear -- i want to hear smart debates. i want to know what you can do, how are you going to be able to deal with environmental issues, and the people in our country need to vote. i don't care what party you are on, who you believe it, and you got to go to the polls. so many people just don't vote. and that's a shame. that is a shame. we're in the greatest country in the world, and people need to get their heads out of their behinds and go to the polls and learn about what's going on and vote. host: all right, john, thanks for calling. thanks to everybody who called. we've got plenty more time between now and new hampshire for your calls on the new
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hampshire primary campaign 2016. but for now we're going to turn to the flint, michigan, water issue. our guest will be the member of the u.s. house who represents flint, congressman dan kildee of michigan, fifth district. yoho ter, congressman ted will be here to talk about human trafficking. we'll be right back in a moment. >> every weekend on american history tv on c-span3, we feature programs that tell the american story. some of the highlights for this weekend include saturday night at 8:00 eastern.
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historian matthew andrews of the university of north carolina at chapel hill talks about how racial tensions of the 1980's were reflected in sports. >> rocky is a heavy underdog in the first film. he loses in the first film. he loses in a split decision to apollo creed. no one thinks he's going to do well. he does not win. in "rocky ii," he knocks out apollo creed in the most implausible boxing scene ever filmed. it's absolutely impossible what happened. but rocky wins. these were both very popular movies in 1976 and 1979, but these are much more than just sports movies. these are movies about race. these are movies about american history. >> at 10:45, a brooklyn law professor talks about his book, "invented by law," arguing alexander graham bell is remembered as the invery tort of the telephone, despite contributions of others, because he secured a patent
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for the complete american history tv weekend schedule, go "washington journal" continues. host: at the table for the first time on "washington journal" is congressman dan kildee, democrat from michigan, represents flint. thank you for joining us. so you were back home last week dealing with this massive issue. how would you describe the conditions there now? guest: well, people are very frustrated. they're angry. they've lost trust in their government. and then we have this issue of trying to get water at the same time. so there's a lot of frustration, a lot of anger. there's a big logical challenge. the water is not safe enough to drink yet. there's a lot of testing that's going to have to take place before we can provide any kind of assurances about the safety of the drinking water. so, you know, there's a lot of anger and a lot of confusion. host: what's the health aspect
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look like right now? guest: well, the difficulty with lead exposure, which is the biggest problem here, is that the most significant impact is developmental impact on young children. so the symptoms don't manifest for a very long time, but hey're real, and lead exposure is permanent. lead is a new row toxin, it affects cognitive, behavioral, developmental aspect of the child. so what's really the struggle here. people don't necessarily see the symptoms right now. but most of the focus, or at least a lot of the focus is on the pipes, on the water distribution system, which obviously we need to address. but my concern, and the thing i've been raise for the most part in congress with folks back home in michigan, is that when we think about the solution to this problem, there are some immediate needs, emergency needs. there are some short-term needs , fixing the pipes. but the long-term needs,
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providing wraparound services for kids, you know, i hope that isn't lost in the conversation. that's really where our focus is. host: phone numbers on the screen for the congressman, who represents flint, michigan. and we have separate lines for republicans. 202-748-80001. democrats, 202-748-8000. if you live in michigan, call this number, 202-748-8003. we look forward to your calls for the congressman. so what is your take? what is your view on how this all happened, and who was mostly responsible? guest: mostly responsible, the state of michigan and its various elements. the way this happened, the city of flint had gone through a lot of struggles as a result of changes in the economy. the state in the last few years cut its direct support to the city, taking these cities that
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were just barely hanging on and putting them into basically insolvency. ironically then, the state itself pointed an emergency manager, suspended the authority of the city council and the mayor and made a series of decisions to save money. one of those decisions was to temporarily use the flint river as the drinking water source, as opposed to water from lake huron. that was bad enough. worse is that they failed under the emergency manager to do the basic things that you do when you're treating water for delivery to households. they didn't provide something that's referred to as corrosion control. it's a treatment that coats the inner lining of a pipe that prevents lead from leaching into the water. they just simply fade to do that, despite warnings, particularly warnings from the e.p.a. that they need to do that. that led to a year and a half of water going into the homes
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of flint residents, water going into the bodies of flint residents, particularly children, 9,000 children under the age of 6, with very high levels of lead. so that's where we stand right now. as i said, the principal responsibility rests with the people who made this decision to do this, who didn't use the proper caution. and then as has been evidenced already, the department of environmental quality in michigan, basically being dismissive of the claims that there were high levels of lead. host: here's a little bit from governor rick schneider at his state of the state address, deal with this issue. governor: i'd like to address the people of flint. your families face a crisis, a crisis you at any time create and could not have prevented. i want to speak directly, honestly, and sincerely to let you know we are praying for you, we are working hard for you, and we are absolutely
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committed to taking the right steps to effectively solve this crisis. to you being the people of flint, i say tonight, as i have before, i am sorry, and i will fix it. no citizen of this great state should endure this kind of catastrophe. government failed you. federal, state, and local leaders by breaking the trust you placed in us. i'm sorry most of all that i let you down. you deserve better. you deserve accountability. you deserve to know that the buck stops here with me. host: congressman kildee, how do you assess the role of the governor at this point? guest: well, i appreciated the apology. i know the people of flint assume that he's sincere in that, but his reference to the failure of government, local government failed. local government was being run 100% by the state of michigan.
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the local city council had zero authority. the mayor had zero authority. so what i worry about is that while there is a sincere apology, there's a conscious effort to defuse responsibility and create this narrative there's equivalency of responsibility between the federal, state, and local level. there was no local government. the local government was the state. so let's set that aside. the question is between the state and federal government. to me, there's a question of whether or not the e.p.a., a, had the authority to insist that michigan do it right and whether or not they should have raised this issue. but let's just be clear. the michigan department of voormental quality has responsibility for enforcement of both lead and comparable, the clean drinking water law, and they insist that they have privacy, not the e.p.a., so it's a little disen genuous. now that the costs are going add up for the state to go from apologizing, accepting responsibility, trying to
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create this really false narrative, a myth, that it was equivalency, that the federal government has a share of responsibility, the state has a share. nobody in flint, michigan, believes that it was anyone but the state of michigan making these decisions. am i critical of the e.p.a.? yeah, i have some criticism. i wish they would have shouted from the mountaintop when they had data that showed there was elevated lead levels in flint. they did go to the michigan department of environmental quality and insist that they do something about it. the michigan department of environmental quality told the e.p.a. they were on it, that they had it, that they were ahead of it. they actually said that already applying corrosion control early last year. do you know when the michigan department of environmental quality implemented corrosion control? december 8 of 2015. even the governor acknowledges he knew about this as early as october. i think it was earlier than that. we found out about it in
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september and immediately called for a meeting with all the parties. why on earth have they taken so long to deal with this? host: we have flint michigan on the line. it's tom, and we'll point out that the congressman is going to testify today, a little bit more than an hour now that the 9:00 a.m. start on c-span3, and he'll be among the witnesses at a hearing at the house oversight and government reform committee. you can watch it live on c-span3. tom, independent caller from flint. good morning to you. caller: good morning. host: what would you like to ask the congressman or say? caller: well, i live in flint. i'm a homeowner in flint. and we all know that water is bad. it's been bad. we've known if for at least a year and a half. a couple of things that really got me bothered with the way the politicians are handling this is, water prices are incredibly high. we're surrounded by the most
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fresh water probably of any place in the world, and we have outrageous water prices in flint. the other thing is, after all this happened, i get my tax bill, and they say the price of my house increased. now, how can they house increase when i couldn't put it on the market and sell it right now if i wanted to? this goes back to your other statement, why are we voting? these politicians got to go. they're into a political mess. people on the north side of flint, the poorest community, one of the poorest communities in the nation, they have no representation. they went to their city council, and he's locked up, he's in jail. i mean, there is absolutely no leadership at all from any form of government. we need somebody to step in, come in to flint, and actually take over thanks. the people pay very high quality -- a very high rate for
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poor quality of water. ways to deal with this is to begin some of the cities of loans. michiganactually owes 22 million dollars for improvements that were finance for their water system and the state makes a whole series of decisions that wrecks the water. we don't think the city should have to pay that $22 million back. france -- ines and -- t if we can forgive that debt, perhaps lower the rate. the bayount on housing, he makes a good point. the problem is tax and robert evaluate lag by one year. i'm concerned that the effect of wouldrisis on home values
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be substantial and that is why it is important that we turn the corner quickly to solving the problem and focusing on solutions so there is a restoration of some confidence and plan. that confidence would develop in more businesses and property values. host: is congress looking to provide direct aid? guest: yes, we are trying to get it right working with the people on the ground in flint. some infrastructure improvement, replacing the pipes for example. but also some writing -- providing support for child education. there are nine dozen kids in flint on -- under the age of six. the kinds of things we would do for our own children if they had
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a developmental challenge of some type. we would now be able to provide for all the 9000 kids. host: is there bipartisan support? guest: i hope so. i have been talking to my michigan colleagues who are much more involved. is congressman candice miller, she has introduced legislation that would provide $1 billion to support for flint for infrastructure. we chatted for a little bit. we want to make sure that the help that we are giving is actually needed. this is a dynamic process. i hope the federal government sets up. they did not do it. these people in flint are citizens of the united states. they are facing a disaster. host: we will get to calls in a second. i wanted to show you a quote saysa texas republican, he
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responsibility primarily lives with state and local government and michigan. given that, we have $19 trillion in debt so i think it's fair to ask, do we we want to have the federal government help in place -- 50 59 to $75 million is the number i have heard. i think it's reasonable. i would hope that the senator would make the call to governor rick snyder. makessue of local control it a state issued no matter who made the decision does the state was running the city. i think in this case, the governor is not stepping up the way he should. he has a couple of things. $28 million to pay for some of the emergency support. we heard last night that he is announcing a $30 million
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requests for legislature so people don't have to pay water bills for water that is basically poison. that does not even get close to what we need. stepped up andd fully responded the response, then we would not have to have this conversation. if they are not willing to do it, then they need help. host: john, an independent from philadelphia. caller: and my personal opinion, this would be a good example of where you could privatize wherer government entity you have it has as high as a goes where you could prosecute some of the people. by the time it goes through all the bureaucracy, half of those children he is talking about will be graduated if they are even healthy enough to graduate from high school. host: congressman.
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guest: i understand there is a move towards privatization. if this has been a privatized system, we could chase it a corporation could do player -- declared bankruptcy and then disappear into the night. water,vision of drinking is a fundamental human right and is a fundamental function of government. on the plane about prosecution, there is nothing bureaucratic whether it's a private company or public officials. i'm glad to see the justice department and fbi involved. michiganave the attorney general conducting his own investigation. of accountability that is required is important, but i hope it is not just about , but having those
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who did this to us make it right . that is really the justice that we need to focus our attention on. host: as we continue, here is the headline from the wall street journal. barbara, a democratic caller. caller: i just wanted to add something to the congressman's constructive list of helping the kids. i am 60 years old, but when i was a kid, we had penpals. we were parted with kids and other countries and wrote letters back and forth. i was wondering if we could create ipad pals for these kids and their families. and have that partnered with free internet for them and then to 9000 retired teachers partner one-on-one with the
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families and i also got this idea because i have twin grandchildren and first grade. starting last year, and can garden, teachers from two different passes sent home website information that we could go to outside of school hours and the kids could continue with the work that they started. the computer technology is so sophisticated that the computer picks them up where they left off in class when they are outside in the library or home. so they get individual records of their progress. the kids love it. parents love it. this would be a great way to track these kids going forward long-term and see where they might need the appropriate support tailored to them individually. host: barbara, thank you for calling. guest: it is a great point. in fact, one of the things we are including is to expand afterschool programs and summer school programs. i have not heard this idea of
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ipad pals. i will pass it on to the folks in flint. anything we can do to stimulate brain development in these children is going to be helpful. not all kids will have symptoms. one thing we know for certain is that there are ways to mitigate the effects of lead exposure in a child. those enrichment opportunities. those kinds of things. it simulates brain development. it simulates interaction, to medication. the things we would do for our own children are the things we need to make available for these kids. if we do these things, if we give it our all and give these kids a shot, flint can be fine. we can turn the corner. resources to do the things we are talking about and those resources need to come
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from the people. from the institutions who did this to flint michigan. that is what we need to focus a lot of our attention on. host: have you heard anything about timing and the state or in washington? isst: in washington, it tough. i'm a democrat and we have some challenges in overcoming a philosophy here. that basically says they are on their own. one of the things that is troubling about the senator's ourent, is that these are american citizens who are facing a big struggle because of the decisions that were made by someone else. they are facing a disaster. so the idea that we are all pointing at one another and say it is your fault, if the state of michigan won't do was write, where else are the kid supposed else are thehere kids supposed to turn?
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we are the federal government. when we have the power to react, we should do everything we can. michigan., from an independent. caller: good morning. i know you're not my congressman, but at least you are representing the state. i do not agree with you on a couple of points. one, that it is a federal issue or it is a state issue. it is a local issue. the reason is, the people who are running flint spend more money than they were taking in from tax revenue. at the same time, detroit's water system was going to raise their rates or cut them off. they put these people in a bind. they were not able to hook up their water system and be able to get it done in time. so, yeah. noncorrosive stuff on the pipes. overall, it is a local issue
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because there would not have been an emergency manager and people who are representing flint -- had people who are visiting flint done their job and solved it. same thing in detroit. dollars going to lansing has to fix this problem, is no different than my tax dollars going to ford motor company if they buy bad tires. guest: i appreciate the call. i would just clarify one thing. the consequence is not local. these --nsequences of this crisis -- the question about whether the city was financially solvent is a really important question. the state of michigan four decades has provided direct support to cities out of
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recognition that cities play a unique role in the economic health of the region and the state. under government snyder, they eliminated direct support. the city of flint was making it. it was struggling for sure because of all of the job losses , we lost 90% of our manufacturing base. it is pretty hard to overcome that immediately. but then the state made it worse by cutting direct support to the cities. then there surprised when the city government is facing a crisis rather than reinstate that support, they pointed an emergency manager with one tool only. budget scalpel. so, the decisions have a local impact, but the decisions were made by the state. thedecisions were made by state to come in and take over the city of flint. because of that, even the governor himself has a college that the people of flint did not
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do this. i just want that acknowledgment and that a policy to translate into something more than sentiment. form of to come in the direct help to the city. just one final point. , ande all citizens michigan, we are all citizens. if we take the approach that a citizen who is suffering in one part of the state and expect no help from state government, from a citizen in another part of the sense we really lose the of community and connection to one another. we have state government for a reason. andtimes people have needs can expect the state to step up. this is clearly one of those cases where it is their responsibility. host: democratic line, claudia. was calling for, what our member is seeing flint take a turn down when gm pulled out
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of here. they started closing down all the schools. we don't hardly have any schools here in michigan. especially, in flint. there is about one or two junior highs. all elementary kids lumps together. then they started closing down stores. they closed all the grocery stores. we have mostly family dollar stores. myers, one of the biggest grocery stores we had. it went on. evenr came in and i don't know how he even got in office because he is a republican. up here, it is mostly a democratic neighborhood.
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actually, i think he stole his position. he got a second term. i cannot believe he got a second term. -- he was and took counseling down here and they kept throwing him in jail because he was speaking out against them. then miss weaver, our mayor right now, she came in and has been here less than a year. when she came in, i found out they took away all her authority. she had no say over anything. quieted her hurt -- down. basically, i'm saying the damage done here in flint was almost deliberately done. your eyes and look closely, you can see, it was planned. i don't even know why right now. know why snyder would have any say-so over what happens in flint.
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they should make him step down. host: claudia, thank you for calling. guest: claudia raises some important points over what is happened the last two decades. there is a lot of thought out there that things happening in saginaw, wasn, or done by the people of those communities. that ignores a couple of points. we have seen a major change in our economy. we have lot a lot -- lost a lot of manufacturing companies. disproportionate impact. we lost half the population. had a hundred 97,000 people. today, we have about 99,000 people living in flint and about
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10,000 gm employees. the people did not vote to move them out. but the consequences being felt here and then we have a state relocation tot urbanburbs outside the core, that has consequences. then, this crisis comes along. a city that is already struggling to find its path forward. it makes it really tough to overcome. host: i'm sure you have seen this week by michael more in case you haven't seen it. he talks about flint in this tweet. he says this is a racial killing. flint, michigan is 60% black. when you know link -- knowingly poison a black city, you are
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committing a version of genocide. i can't speak to the intent behind this. i can't look into the heart of state leaders, for example, but i can just look at the evidence. i don't think anyone believes across the spectrum of flint, that if this situation had occurred in a very affluent, mostly majority community it would not have gone on so long. back in july, the chief of staff for the governor, wrote a memo saying we have got to do something. people in flint are basically being blown off. september passes, october passes, november passes. it was not until december that they started to treat the water. it was not until just a few weeks ago that the government asks for help. i had written him in september
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federaln order to get agencies, you have to come to flint. in september.t he did not act until january. could see that i happening in a community that was not a poor, mostly black community. i cannot say that that was there intentional motivation, but that was the effect. representsisitor flint, michigan. and saginaw. second term. you may or remember his uncle who retired in 2012. he represented flint for well over 30 years. our current congressman is a senior web. steve is calling from jacksonville, illinois. you make so much sense.
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thatre the first democrat i've listened to in a long time. i'm from illinois. i come from a long line of criminal governors, people that came from the state. my question is, you said the lead in the pipes. you think flint, michigan is the only city in this country that has led pipes still? and to make this about race, it is just insane. they did it to save money. i don't believe they were that evil. basically, there is led pipes all over the country. the water supply they switch to,
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that is pretty damming on their part. you.: thank first of all, your point about lead water in the -- lead water pipes, they are all over the country. for whatever reason, they failed to treat the water. for people who operate water systems, based on the research, it is pretty much a no-brainer that when you have led pipes, you use corrosion control. everybody who runs a water system knows they are supposed to. this raises a larger question. we have specific issues that are result of bad choices by the emergency manager and department of environmental quality.
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if we did not have let pipes for example, there would not be -- -- d pipes host: if you want to be safe, you have to be -- in a 19 million trillion -- $19 trillion debt world, how does this move along? guest: i have been talking to my colleagues about this for months. is beginning to come home to roost. we are going to pay one way or the other. this notion that we cannot deal with this problem because we have a deficit. we have to be honest with
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ourselves. where going to pay one way or another. if we don't build new infrastructure, we're going to jobs, lower wages, lower tax receipts. if we're not going to help the kids in plants. we're going to pay with a less productive society. we know that lead exposure has that type of behavior. congress say it points, but itiq is not just about iq. it is behavior. there is a societal price for not dealing with problem's at the point in time when we can effect problems by that point in their trajectory. how much does it cost when the bridge collapses? themuch does it cost when
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water system delivers was water? host: michael is on the democratic line. is michael.ame i'm a former marine. i'm a victim of the largest water contamination system in history.ed states' the last caller said it is not about race. it is about responsibility. the most important thing is they did not include all of the chemicals and the contaminants that were in the water. , mr. killed to know
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.er, you are great -- water i would like to know if there is a true water study for this study. first of all, michael. thanks for your service and the marine corps. as a member of congress i want how much i appreciate that you stood up for your country. jim sharp, a former marine, brought the case to a marine base to my kitchen. we use that as a case study for how we deal with the situation in flint.
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it does not make people whole. it does not erase the mistakes that were made. that is sure. do is what wen can do. in that case, it was to provide medical support. in the case of flint, it might be services for kids. to make sure they have a fighting chance in life. it is about taking responsibility. the -- theess until congressman will be testifying live. be live on c-span3 and we will show it again tonight. man who is pictured here on the front page of the detroit news. he is the x-men is her in flint.
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explain his connection to all of this. guest: he was one of the emergency managers appointed by the governor to have this authority over decision-making. he actually served as a city administrator in flint. he was called to testify. yesterday, he had a change of heart so he won't be there. frankly, it would be great to have darnell early. some of the people who are directly involved in this. i think it order to have transparency, we're going to have to hear more from the government itself. whether he would volunteer to come or if federal officials could ask questions. in order for us to restore confidence going forward. this is what it is about. it is restoring confidence in
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people that their government is going to be transparent with them and get to the solutions. ofestly hiring a bunch public relations firms, which has what -- what the government -- governor has done, they are spending as much time on spin control as they are trying to solve the problem. host: one more call. charles, independent from st. louis. caller: thank you, representative chilled or. i am very happy that you are ofre to represent the people flint, michigan. thank you for being there, sir. guest: thank you. flint is my hometown. for me, this is an obligation as
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a member of congress to represent the people back home. this is personal. this is about the life and health of the people i grew up with. i go home to flint every weekend. i just hope that the people in flint will be -- have their faith restored. they have this really great need. host: our guest has been a member of the u.s. house of representatives. his name is dan kildee. an hour and a half left. a couple of more desperate congressman ted yoho will be next. he will talk about human trafficking, among other issues. we will be right back. ♪
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non-carbon resources. >> one of the things that i saw throughout this entire timeline is that most of the founding fathers knew and their minds that slavery was wrong. they knew it. to, they were not willing intervene in their own lives to make that comfort -- come true. holland, night, jesse discusses his book the invisible. the untold story of african-american slaves in the white house. majority of early presidents were all slaveowners. george washington did this as well. he brought in slaves to new york city and philadelphia from mount vernon. they served as the first domestic staff to the united states president.
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8:00 on q& at >> washington journal continues. ted yoho, here with us. ofted to talk to you about all things, the super bowl. so, the game is in california this weekend. very serious issue. it is the issue of human trafficking. saysan francisco chronicle that it is one of the super bowl's dark underbelly. guest: people need to be aware of this problem. over 22 million people are involved today. at it, there is more people trafficking than ever before. when you get large sporting
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events, you see just a massive amount of trafficking. the super bowl is the big one. there is estimated that there are over 10,000 people trafficking at this time. host: i have a note that local -- both in arizona last year, arrested more than 400 people what is about the super bowl that draws this activity? you have a massive amount of people, money. it is a prime area for these bad people to sell women, children, boys. it is just repulsive. , anywhere inime is world, but in america it unacceptable. we have taken this on in north-central, florida. we started an anti-human
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trafficking task force. this is something we need to spread throughout the world. we're starting at our district in florida, then through florida, then the southeast. all is something i hope people would come together for. congressman yellow is a republican of florida, the third district. deviously a veterinarian. guest: i always wanted to do the -- be a veterinarian. host: what made you run for congress? guest: i did not like the direction america was going. we saw things changing where you could not do things like we used to. the american dream was getting further and further away. that was not just my feelings, but people around me. if that is true, what is the next in a ration -- generation?
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back in 2012, back to the sex trafficking issue, what is congress doing about it? guest: congress is very active on this. we have passed a lot of bills on this. we just pass the megan's law, which alerts for countries of sex or traffic -- sex offenders from our country. we had the other bill that we passed that said any foreign contractors doing work for american agencies, have to be cleared and vetted, and make sure they are not using slave labor. year salaryto pay a to get a job with one of those organizations. there is all kinds of legislation. we bolstered the federal laws to make it tougher on the criminals that think it's ok to sell in other him in. again, there is over 22 million people trafficked today.
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the average price of a slave today is $90. that is the value people put on another human being. anotheru say there is -- a lot of this activity at home? guest: there is. -- i'm a parent. this came to light to me. director ofwith the dhs, and we found out the initiative they're doing. they have a great awareness program. i would encourage as went to go to their website and look at the blue campaign. wen i brought this up, developed a task force. we invited our local shares and police chiefs and. it was amazing because they said
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that is not a problem here. once we educated them on the awareness, we were getting calls from these people that did not think there was a problem. they said you know what, this is here. once you bring the awareness, it starts to spread out and at that point you can start getting control of this. host: here's a look at the blue campaign. we have calls coming in. kim, democrat from alabama. i have serious reservations about hillary rodham clinton. enemy,because our sworn north korea, and i think dennis the menace pointed out on bill
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that they have cap on the menu. -- cat on the menu. is there anything on that call you wanted to talk about? hope sex trafficking is something that people take seriously. if you are parent, everyone knows if you have a nephew, knees, brother, sister we all know people that have gone missing in this country. that in ourake sure district it is zero tolerance and we want to spread that throughout the united states. host: is this something people can see as it is happening? guest: if they go to the blue campaign, the awareness, you
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will see. a gives you different scenarios of things you walk by everyday. people walk by this everyday. once you get exposed to this, you're going to say this is a possibility. i think the big thing from that point is to be active. call your local law enforcement, say this is not look like -- right. going on at may be this hotel, this theme park. if we all come together and work on this, we can get rid of it. host: a call from michigan. caller: good morning. i sure wish they would stop like these expressions trafficking apply to everything. , -- trafficking we have traffic cops.
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we should be more specific. we are polluters and this country. we throw things everywhere. we toss them in the river. you have got dumping of toxins in our rivers. you are drinking bottled water with containers made from an oil well. when you're talking about the disgusting use of selling human beings, you have got to have a better term than trafficking that puts a stronger emphasis on it. at -- afteroking one another and doing what you're supposed to do in washington. host: iris, let the congressman respond. guest: i appreciate the comments. called,ss of what it is
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with a us an e-mail recommendation. just you calling in, is causing more where this. it is the sale of an individual from one to another for monetary gain. and i think it is a disgusting practice. trafficking, i don't think it matters so much in the name, it is what they're doing and who they are doing it too. as far as the federal government , the way the constitution was written, it is it is very the role for the federal government. it goes back to flint, michigan. you have federal oversight, but that is a local issue. system was way our set up. i think it is going to work out fine. , wouldere's a tweet
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legalizing prostitution and sex work and general help stop human trafficking? guest: no it would not. haram in nigeria kidnap over 300 children in nigeria. the average price they are selling them for is $12. that is the price people are putting on another human beings life. in this country, we have seen slavery throughout human history. over 720,000 people died in a civil war, but it is still going on today. i would think all people in the country would and that in this country. to this country and not doing that, you're not doing that. if you're in this country and
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not doing that, you need to get out. go ahead, morton. caller: thank you for taking my call. i lived in florida for 65 years. i have between 150-wanted to 75 people working for me in miami. most of them are cuban. 150-175 people working for me in miami. most of them are cuban's. most people have the wrong idea of cubans. them picking have tomatoes, you will be paying for
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dollars for tomato, six dollars for lettuce. are mostly citizens, have husbands who served, honorable people, honest people. the immigrants. it is what is going on in congress. 60 times in congress. and i heard you mention went. -- flint. i rembert taking out a pipe, and you could not see a -- see the pipe. there is a lot and that phone call. guest: there is. we have a broken immigration system. congress has been working on
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this for 30 years. that is one of the things we came here to address. morton pointeds out, the migrant help that comes in the country and i don't want to classify them as just farm workers, but going back to human trafficking. we have had cases in my district and my say, that you see all over the country that is duplicated where people come in from haiti, another country. they are trapped in that system and they cannot get out of it because they do not have a passport. they came here illegally. or even if they do have a passport, the person in charge takes that passport. we have women that have been raped over 30 times in the afternoon in the situations. this is something that has to stop. saying that, the cuban people are great people that come over here. i grew up in self-portrait.
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we depend on migrants. our country was founded on that. what i personally want to do is have responsible immigration reform and we can do that. it just takes some political the party to come together and stop making it a partisan issue. that.ountry deserves the migrants deserve that. that is how we going to build a strong america. he also knocked her party on a health care vote. several dozen actually. how did you vote? guest: i voted on a overripe. reasons we are in the majority's we ran on repealing and replacing it. big is not a it is the replacing. if you look at the metrics of is affordable care act, it
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driving up the cost. i'm personally paying $11,000 more for my family. i get calls daily where people their premium. and if they cannot for their premium, they put off their deductible. are knocking at the door of $29 in debt. if you look at what the affordable care act is going to cost, it is looking at over to join dollars in 10 years. the president and people rally for the health care bill say there is 22 million people that will lose their health care. that is a fallacy. a lot of people were displaced because their employers could not afford them anymore.
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so they went to the medicaid system. the largest people on obamacare are and medicaid. -- andand medicaid medicaid -- in medicaid. yesterday, if you missed it in the house, the democrats sustain the veto of obamacare. was -- did note get the two thirds needed. guest: it did not. it did not pass. will send uspeople back depending on how we perform. some will say, some will leave. host: jared from minnesota. i guess as far as and
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entered service go, i guess there is going to be a lot voting for bernie sanders this year. when it comes to prostitution, i think we are being ignorant. need ofwe all have a convalescence. we kind of need to deal with real issues. we can call the human tofficking, we just need being asorry, i'm little nervous. why can't wes, just legalize prostitution and take away the need for the problem? host: thanks for it.
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to countriesn go where it is legalize. they are still having problems. trade, it is the sex indentured servants, whenever you have someone going against the will of the individual, that is some form of mastery over that person. i would not want that for myself. i would not want it for my children and idle think you would want it for anyone you know. it if is a voluntary thing, i cannot stop that. but if you have somebody in a in a state or nation that has legal prostitution, what about the woman or man, or servicest is doing the ? so, thate will and if is different. but if it is not free will, i think that is the problem. i think we would all come together on that. i hope you understand that is what we are trying to do and i
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would encourage people to go to the dhs, and look at the blue campaign. it is an eye-opener. it also outlines the seriousness of this problem. from irishs a tweet eyes. who are the consumers of these traffic sex slaves? guest: these are people that the a desire, whether it is agriculture sector where they want to have cheap labor, or people that want to of these people for sexual pleasure, or more likely or oftentimes, it is the pimps that are selling a product to a buyer. is what we call a john, but it could be a woman to. i think one of the most reprehensible things, when you get into this, when you see what is happening. we have had people under two years of age dealing in the sex
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trafficking trade. no child should ever have to go through that. no child whatever agreed to that. when you start looking at the sickness of this, we do need to go after those people that are perpetuating this. we have gone after the people who are selling these children. there are people out there tattooing men and women like they are cattle. it is something they trade. when the further you get into this, and again on if you go to blue campaign, nec with going on. you are going to see it as a wake-up call. you are going to see how reprehensible this is. a caller from thousand oaks, california. thank you for joining us. caller: good morning. i have the first time
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ever spoken to a congressman. simple question. i came here legally many years ago, green card, etc.. when i first came, it came to my attention that cuban immigrants, if they reach u.s. soil they are automatically granted asylum. is it time to relook at that policy? thank you for coming to this country legally and it sounds like you are doing in california -- doing well in california. something that should the region just and we are looking at the repeal of this. as you pointed out, if you come from cuba, and you get a foot here, you get a green card. , orif you come from haiti
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somewhere, you are deported. law thatiscriminatory was set up against the castro regime. president readjusting our alignment with cuba, there is no need for this. host: oral from nashville. from nashville. i was just speaking about aiting a book dark mirror and behind the start mirror, everything taking place. we were talking about trafficking and prostitution. then you mentioned something about cuba and haiti. if we were to start looking into
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, andountry, our people stop the discrimination of the -- try and stop people looking at that stuff. what kind ofg united states do we have? this causes plumes. problems. we have got to be careful about what we say about somebody. host: thanks for calling. calling appreciate you and saying engaged watching c-span. you get the issues. you can share with your friends. have other people watch it. how we live and how we conduct our business and our country --
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in our country does get reflected around the world. whether it is the young kids in the neighborhood, people in our families, you are a model for everything that you do. it is a sin thing for people in congress. we should be a model for how a country that has rule of law acts and if we don't follow the rules of law, if our country stray from that, then like you said, people around the world start doubting who we are as a nation. and we should get back to some of the basics. the closer we get back to , if we strayl rule from those, people start to doubt who we are as a nation. host: as a member of foreign here is the washington examiner.
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how do you define reckless? guest: i do say on foreign affairs. this is something i brought up. , when arels every day you going to hold this president accountable? think of the future. it could be a bernie sanders. it could be a hillary clinton. therdless of what it is, three branches of government are out of balance. congress has allowed their power to be taken away from them. this came up, because if i look at this at what president obama has done, and the disapproval and condemnation of president obama's foreign policy has been what we called reckless endangerment of our national security. to what hillary
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isnton pushed and libya, it now a recruitment and training center for isis. they had the drawdown from afghanistan and iraq against military advisers. in addition, they announced the dates. controllead taliban to more today than they did before 2009. isis has the most numbers, the best armament. if you look at the guantanamo detainees, this president has released hundreds of them and they are supposed to come to congress and let us know ahead of time. he has failed to do that. over 30% of these details have gone back into the fight against american soldiers, putting our young men and women in harm's way. this president has failed to do
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mac -- act on domestic policies. i think of the young lady in california that got murdered and shot that should have been deported. arrested multiple times, convicted of tony's. this stuff has got to stop. and national role is to provide defense for the american people. host: republican caller mark from virginia. hey, this is your old buddy mark and margaret. here's my question. there was a resolution that have to do with a war powers act they were trying to
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railroad and fast-track to the senate to get president obama almost unlimited war powers act to deploy troops on u.s. soil. i wondered if you knew about highlyd this sounds unconstitutional to me and i will wish you a good day and i will take it off the year. guest: i am not aware of what is going on but we're going to stay ever vigilant on this issue. policy reminds me of the movie with johnny depp walking around with a broken compass spinning around. i can say that very definitively. i get military leaders and they
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say we lack a strategy. look at the syria civil war and the conflict has me going on for ears.four yhea menchairman and ranking have requested a safe zone on the southwest border near jordan so the syrian refugees would have a place to go. ledlack of a game plan has to the largest migration the world has seen since world war ii. they have gone from the middle east and are going to europe and near going to spread throughout the world. we should have brought people together four, five years ago and had a diplomatic solution with our partners from other
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nations. host: we have about 15 minutes left. you are probably seeing this for the first time. rand paul is dropping out. breaking news. he had a statement this morning. end where illl begin. thousands of people flock to our message." werefires of liberty ignited. today i will suspend my campaign for president but i will continue to carry the force and look forward to representing the people from kentucky." guest: that is news to me. that is leadership to be able to step down and i commend you for
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doing that. that is one of the reasons i was following him. the very things that made this country great. the things fighting for our american ideals. it doesn't matter what political party you are. if you do not -- if we lose that, we lose what the country stands for. know you.d to i respect his decision. host: why do you think he did not generate more support? guest: there is multiple things. may be the message did not resonate. the young people, they like him. media, butck the
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people would say he is an isolationist. he wants strong security for this country. we do not need to be in a lot of places we are today. host: is there another name you are now supporting? guest: the one that is standing in november. host: good enough. annette. guest: good morning. caller: how are you? i want to thank you for bring for this important problem that we have in our society. guest: thank you. you think the subject of human trafficking is not as investigated and
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discussed in our society as of the problems are related to exploitation? the jerry sandusky case was national news for a long time. it was a different story but child pornography and child aploitation is investigated lot more robustly than human trafficking. human trafficking is a broader issue and it affects every level of the social stratum, from those who can afford to put people in these conditions down to the poorest people. i would like you to comment on why this subject is not as well-known. guest: that is a great question. it is not just the poor that are being forced into this.
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the single woman or the single child. the teenage runaway, boy or girl, within 48 hours, most are picked up and are in the sex trafficking trade. that could be a wealthy person. we had a case where a lady was moving and she borrowed a car, went to get the furniture. there was a group of guys that took her and put her right into the sex trade. $20 to have sex with a man. she was drugged out. lovely they rescued her within about two weeks. isr basic question awareness. an awarenessue is
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campaign. if people are not aware of it, they are not looking. people want to ignore it. not in my backyard." that is why this is so important. anyone, youurage don't have to like me, have somebody go to the website and spread it out and get people toaged in this and less come gather as a nation. we need to solve this. i think about that victim, young, old. freedom that we experience every day, to not be
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able to make those choices. that is something we'll have to fight to get under control. i will fight. i will fight to have zero tolerance in my district. thank you for your call, annett e. host: james, democrat. caller: good morning. i appreciate the broad array of different subjects. i have various things i would like to speak about myself. immigration is happening all around. people are coming in. here,he pilgrims came they didn't have green cards. they ran the indians off and just took over. they kind of organized to their
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advantage. even the mexicans. toy want to put a fence up keep these people away from land . the impression in the united states because of the unjust situation in various amounts of ways. 15 orlored person took in 20 on the construction site. doing the same job that caucasians are doing. you still have that mentality where you have to know somebody. people watch out for their own, and that is wrong. you you keep people across, always have problems. i can go deeper on talking about this. it is not just something that
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has started. guest: that is going to happen throughout time. you are going to see this. -- our immigration policies to the what is best for america. it does it matter if you come from cuba, haiti, mexico. our policy should be what is best for america. it is so important and frustrating to be up here. congress has talked about fixing immigration for 30 years. give me a break. there are easy solutions. fixed." to have this up.e is an election coming we do not want to bring this up
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because it is too contentious. the american people are looking at us to solve these problems. we should do stuff in between. if you are doing what is best for the country, not what is the for a certain group, cuban-americans, asian-americans, do what is best for america. if you do that, i think we will be all right. my recommendation is if the people are not doing that, throw them out. host: back to the hill. our guest is a member of the house freedom caucus. it was talked about a lot when john boehner was leaving. remind us what does the freedom
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caucus believe in. how is paul ryan doing as speaker? questions.t a group of conservative people who have come together to push conservative ideas. it is a new day in congress. i saw a lack of leadership for our country. one of my goals was to change leadership. paul ryan is going to do a great job. he articulates what we want to accomplish. a lot of his ideas are things that are going to make people stronger in this country, and i think that is what we're all fighting to do. ground paul has hit the running. my goad, and i cannot talk for
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anyone in the freedom caucus -- our goal is to move the ball down the field so we start getting our debt under control. trillion.ry owes $20 man,is about $70,000 every woman, and child. those are the things we have to get under control. our national security. the: paul ryan met with president at the white house yesterday for the first time as speaker. they talked about the visa waiver program. dave, republican caller. caller: i wanted to make a comment. they want to the old a big wall.
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all you have to do is make it illegal for anybody to cheer illegal and put the employers in jail. they do not want to put the employers in jail because they labor.he cheap that is why they keep coming h ere. they need to put the employers in jail. you need to put the military on the border. you don't even need to build a wall. if you made it legal for employers to hire people, that would stop the problem right away. guest: that is one of the things on the books that they should not be doing.
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wall.not need to build a what is more important is saying you need border security. you cross the border, you get put that go over. that wead the attitude are going to do border security, it stops that magnet that people see of on enforcement that is broad people over to america. that is why cubans will swim 90 miles to get to this country. they know if they get here they are here to stay. get tos are trying to america because we are not going to enforce the rules on the books. if we have border security and enforcement of the laws, it will problem, andhis
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then let's fix immigration internally. let's deal with the people who came here legally on a visa. it goes back to a person in politics. the people in government. peopley stand up -- some are not going to like what you do. for the economic prosperity of can country so that we preserve opportunity for the american dream. that sets this country apart. ete from texas, independent caller. caller: good morning, representative yoho.
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you got me all fired up this morning. a man with a high school education will steal from a freight car. what about a u.n. resolution which says countries leaders do notts want to share in the wealth. can chargestates them for not taking care of their own people. ,n the health care thing, life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. tell me how we can pursue happiness if we are sick or dead? universal health care. i had a good health care system.
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tri care.. and is not fair that some people have to pass away earlier because the do not have access to health care. host: thank you. quoting appreciate you theodore roosevelt. he said, we welcome all immigrants. flag is room but for one and for one language. you need to assimilate and become americans and we will welcome you with open arms. fast what immigrants of the -- that's what immigrants of the past have done, a similar.
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health care. nobody should be denied health care in this country. nobody that i know is denied that. you can get any health coverage at any hospital. we have the best health care in this country. we need to fix the delivery system. whose responsibility is it to provide health care for you and your family? is it the government or you as the provider for your family? i am responsible for the health care of my family if i am able to provide it. some people cannot afford that. this is probably the most generous society in the world. besome point, people have to
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responsible. founding documents. find another country that has taken care of their people. if they do that, they control those people. we host: congressmen ted yoho. guest: second term. host: you ran on term limits. eight years.erms, host: thank you for joining us. we will take a timeout and talk with dave levinthal. who has the most cash on hand heading into new hampshire? the most expensive campaign in
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history. we will be right back. ♪ >> if you're interested in the process, it all has to begin in iowa and new hampshire. we path to cover the candidates where they are. there is a lot of people interested in this election. who should be our president? for those who want to follow the
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process in a way that is completely unfiltered, we are the only place that does that. candidates,at these you can see how they can try to close the deal during the final campaign,lot of -- every speech, every ad. how is one candidate trying to rebut the other? social media, twitter, the news cycle is constant. we allow you to watch it. you can get the analysis on other networks. you can weigh in on programming. we allow you to see it as it happens to make your own decision. >> "washington journal" continues. host: we are going to talk about
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money and fundraising and spending. our guest is dave levinthal from the center for public integrity. thank you for joining us. as we follow the money, there is this piece you put together. the $1 billion figure. there it is. big-money super pac's have raised almost half of all presidential cash. guest: we got a whole bunch of new numbers that came in and the are good through the end of december. the $1 billion figure represents what the candidates are raising and also the constellation of super pac's which can raise and spend unlimited amounts of money. are forming to do
9:24 am and one thing you can view them as parallel campaigns, shadow campaigns. if you are a donor and want to support hillary clinton or ted cruz or any of the other candidates, you can give a limited amount of money to the candidate into their ca mpaign. if you want to spend a lot of money in politics, get involved, change the trajectory of the election, you can write a check millionillion or $10 and give it to one of these super pac's. ads can put up tv or radio
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that are attacking others. very different eight years ago when hillary clinton was running against barack obama. host: it looks back at 2015. who is getting all of the? guest: jeb bush is getting the lion's share of the money coming in. early on when it seemed he was waver forrunner, flag the republican side, money was flowing in like crazy. his super pac is sitting on more than $58 million. jeb bush is making his last stand in new hampshire and south carolina. super pac's alone will not win
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you a race, even if a candidate has to have one and a good one in order to compete. there are exceptions to that rule. bernie sanders. donald trump. ted cruz. who is getting the money? ted cruz's super pac's -- about six or seven different one. they have been raising a heck of a lot of money. he is saying, i am not part of the washington machine. i don't like billionaires or lobbyists. these super pac's are being funded by a couple of wealthy individuals, including robert eight, who has pumped in
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figures into a ted cruz super pac. host: here's the headline. $2800 per vote in iowa. guest: it is incredible. sometimes spending is not going to get you the return that you would want. some of the super pac's have been spending money in traditional clinical way. television, radio advertising. we're not seeing a huge bang for ck.r bu it is still eating up the most nonprofitr pac's or organizations, an important storyline in this presidential race. you have to have a candidate see
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that is resonating with people. you have to have a candidate who is having success on the ground. aboutthere is a story marco rubio who finished a strong third in iowa. on the lead page in "the new york times" -- there is momentum in his favor regarding the super pac. guest: some people have gotten on the rubio train. iowa,he success he had in finishing a strong third-place. we'll see what he does in new hampshire. some of the establishment donors who want to get involved in the
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race have been staying on the sideline are going to get behind marco rubio and donating to super pac's. a few have already. is,her important question what is going to happen with super pac's supporting hillary clinton? she talks about hating big-money in politics and would try to change the system. she is being supported by tens of millions of dollars that it did raise by super pac's that are supporting her efforts. bernie sanders doesn't have the same kind of dedicated super pac's that hillary clinton does. pac,llary clinton's super all these resources going to bring it to bear against bernie
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sanders? they want to keep that money until the general election. host: host: he is the single -- political. go ahead dominic. caller: ted cruz was born in canada. .esterday my son googled it he was born in 1970. i was born in 1979. you know if his father was a veteran or go to canada to dodge the draft? host: completely off-topic so why don't we moved to marry -- two mary.
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guest: -- why can't these people running for presidency of the united states all the way down to the city commissioners of every city in the united states be audited one year after they leave office. host: and why are you suggesting that? caller: because of the money packs and the deals done underneath the table. aarp, which is part of the insurance industry in the united states. i feel like a lot of times they --l the pockets up -- bill
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fill these people's pockets up. think he touches on a lot of people who think there is a lot of money going in and out. is there any thing going on? -- auditses there are conducted on presidential campaigns or political campaigns for congress or any other office at the federal level. wherehave been times campaigns have been fine after a result of the findings. so, it does happen. thehe flipside to that, federal election commission is a body that has three republicans appointees, three democratic
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probablys and you don't need to tell me what happens when you have math that works out like that. so it is not necessarily going to come to pass where they are going to be able to agree to set up a better election commission is to whether a certain campaign should get a penalty or hit with, or if they should simply go away. host: let's hear from hannah from pennsylvania. one thing to say. bernie sanders. this is ridiculous. special interest, part of some pharmaceuticals oil companies. the thing is, it is a rigged economy.
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bernie sanders has got it right on the spot. it is time this changes. it is downright ridiculous. thank you c-span. god bless america. bernie sanders making news. he raised $3 million in 24 hours after i what. energyclearly a lot of and was really excited for bernie sanders, as are millions of people around the country. bernie sanders has tapped into frustration voters have had. type ofted a different candidate. bernie sanders, if anything, is a different type of presidential candidate. particularly, for people who are
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looking for a different type of candidate. arnie sanders sort of has double edge sword working for him right now and it applies to money. on one hand, he has been able to get a number of very small dollar donations in a commence five dollars, $10, $50, that have added up. in the past two days, he has raged several million dollars by virtue of his finish in iowa. is done in a different way than many of the candidates. host: as for hillary clinton, theraised the most cash in beltway region. uplary clinton is backing donations from all over the city. she and her backers are trouncing their opponents when it comes to getting donations
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from washington insiders, and large companies. we like to call them big dollar donors, as opposed to small dollar donors who give less than $200. on both sides,it hillary is leading a little bit. bernie sanders, certainly has a lot of resources. he has been able to use that and poor that money into advertising and things like that, but staffers, and people like i what, new hampshire, and other states. the question right now for bernie sanders is that going to be enough money to sustain him beyond early states. once we get to super tuesday where there will be about a dozen states, or be on then.
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it's bernie sanders going to be able to stay financially in this race for the long haul? that is an open question right now and a lot of that is going to depend on whether supporters continue to open their wallets, get out their credit cards and make donations. host: let's go to debbie and north alina. first of all, let me say thank you. i really love c-span. host: thanks for watching. caller: and they guess you have on your show. you're welcome. you have all these candidates who are giving donations to help support their campaign and get them out there and hopefully get them elected. my question is, we just had mike huckabee. of theul is dropping out race.
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martin o'malley is dropping out of the race. about $50 million to spend on his campaign, once a candidate drops out what where does the money go? do they give it back to the people who donated it or give it back to the community or in their pocket? guest: that is a great question. we did a long report a couple years ago of this very issue. all right, a candidate drops out. they no longer are in the race for office. what do they do with their money? depending on the type of withouttion they are, getting too legalistic, they have several options. some of the several noticeable ones are this. they can transfer the money to a national party committee. if they are republican, they can give it to a republican committee heard they can also
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make a charitable donation. is sittingcandidate on millions of dollars, you could donate it to your mama -- alma mater. these are all death the options. what some candidates choose to do is nothing at all. they sit on the money. that money can generate interest so they can even make money off money that they raised. why would they do that? opent to keep my options they might say if they are going say theyain have say will run for senate tomorrow. had that money sitting in an account so they can use that money when they decide to go in a different direction. another option they have, is not typically common or typically is give theople go,
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money back to the people who made the donations. so if you have someone that donated a thousand dollars, here you have it back. usually whens you you give a donation, you expect that donation to be used for something. they mask it's difficult. host: who is ahead right now? guest: we have a couple of different storylines. side, most ofcan the money is spent towards the ads on television. it're probably thinking that is either sponsored by the candidate, hemmer tour -- him or
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herself. that is not in the case so far in the primary. not -- most have been by super pac's. technically it is coming from these organizations that can raise as much money as it wants to in order to attack a candidate. it in that regard, jeb bush has been ahead of the pack of several candidates, including ted cruz, marco rubio. lately, donald trump, his campaign has been more active hardly any advertising at all. host: take a look. ted cruz got delayed his
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positions for political gain. year, he switched his positions on these things. his tune.s changed to change for ted, he wants your vote. one example out there. endt: if you notice at the of the ad, it does not say sponsored by chris christie, marco rubio, or donald trump, it pac.sponsored by a super 99% of americans won't know what that is. reporters would have to look it up.
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-- because it is very difficult for thers to figure out who sponsor is of many of the ads, again, on the republican side accounting for the majority. on the democratic side, the candidates themselves aren't the ones mainly running the ads. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. i just wanted to say that in my opinion, the super pac's should be outlawed. they should not have been allowed in the first place. it is nothing more than a special interest group or lobbying group and i don't think anyone should have the right to buy their way into the white house. this has been going on for far too long and it needs to be stopped. i think we also need to term
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limit senators and congressmen. some of to spend their lifetime leads onto the corruption that goes on. host: thank you. guest: there have been many calls from the democratic side that have asked just for that. what is "dark money"? to not superlowing pac's, but nonprofit organizations. there are certain organizations unitedng the citizens decision in 2010, because of , they had the ability to raise and spend unlimited amounts of money
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except because they are nonprofit, they don't have to disclose the sources of that money. so let's use an example here. if i want to give $1 million to a super pac, the super pac is going to have to publicly, and a document filed with the federal election commission, say dave $19 to a super pac. if i give that money to a nonprofit organization that has a right to be politically active to some extent, not as its primary surface, the world is never going to know that i'm the one donating. nonprofit has not been the fix or yet, but mutt -- much likely they're going to be a bigger story. donald trump being a prime example of saying someone that says the whole system needs to
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change. host: we're going to go to jean. caller: good morning and thank you. i have a question. that you can send to a campaign is very small and a lot thehese tax are not just super rich, but they are individuals contributing to them. the reason they do that is the notican voting public is backed up. they don't follow these people. superhighway and found that the top seven packs with the most money were in the democrats hands. harry had the largest one. if we don't stop voting with common sense, 321 million people , if you knew how medieval did not actually come to bow.
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t --o -- to vote. if you would start in your local community, you would know what is going on. host: thanks. guest: before the citizens united decision, we just had packs. political action committees. , who is of democrats raising the most money through them, democrats have been very successful in that regard. but the citizens united regarding super pac's, are a whole different breed of animal. they can raise unlimited amounts of money. where as traditional ones are they cano the amount
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give. you can only give up to $5,000 pac. most of them are being funded by not people who are giving unlimited amount of money, but people who are giving six figures, seven figures, eight figures. when you look at super pac's on the republican and the recredit sides, the biggest ones are a very small number of very wealthy individuals who are feeling those operations. host: who are these people? guest: on the democratic side, you have a number of folks. i'm thinking movie directors, all walks of liberal life. on the republican side, and a
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lot of businessmen. a lot of people who have been very active. , peopleck to democrats .ike to highlight george soros he came in with about $8 million to democratic super pac's according to hillary clinton's last report. he is someone that is definitely -- stephen silver is another one who has been very active. in order to get involved with those types, you have to have millions of dollars to bear. , an: we have robert independent from indiana. what i wanted to ask about was, i am kind of undecided right now. yetven't heard a candidate on tv say they are going to get rid of the lobbyist on candidate
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-- capitol hill. i haven't heard anyone say they're going to get rid of them , so as long as they are around, it is going to be a problem in the government. it needs to be fixed. host: thanks for calling. jan fromt's move on to roseville, california. caller: good morning. quick question. actually it is a statement and eight question. if bernie sanders gets elected, only peoplent will and why is that? there will be no need for health funds, mutual funds, or 01 k's -- 401ks. because all the big companies, all you have to do is look at
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what type of funding to you have in the teachers union or the 401k's? you'll find pharmaceutical companies and all the large corporations. that's how these funds say life because of the companies. you want bernie sanders? the government will only people. thank you. --st: i think both colors callers hit on some points. obama came into the picture, some say he came in with pretty lofty rhetoric. president'sto the
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ability, whether it is barack obama, or anyone who may be present after the 2016 election. it really does not work that way. we are not electing an autocrat. we are not electing a dictator. sit here overlooking capitol hill because of the balance of power of our government, you have to have a congress that is going to work with you as president. oftentimes, you'll either have to compromise or simply be stonewalled. the current president has been ony frustrated by congress some of his initiatives. an ad from hillary clinton , titled incredible. >> one of these republicans connection be president. >> i think we should repeal of
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obamacare. they are backward even dangerous. who is the one candidate back and stop them? -- top.nd soft them, elect hillary clinton. guest: the advertising that works, often's going to be negative advertising. it is not going to be happy, shiny photos of candidates kissing babies were shaking hands. it is going to be the stuff that draws a very stark contrast from one candidate to another. or it is going to be the types of ads that you see right now, at least in the primaries, were republicans are not talking about other republicans. they talk about hillary clinton because she is the ultimate
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bogeyman when it comes to many of the republicans. clinton, in, hilda order to show she should be the bearer for the democrats, is not going to go after bernie sanders. she is going to go after ted cruz, marco rubio, or donald trump. don from pennsylvania. caller: i just have a few comments to make about people and how they bow. they should realize that whatever the results we get after the end of the election process, is really the voters fault. i have found out a long time ago, after it being a democrat i'm going to go republican. when you talk about hillary clinton. no one ever asked her about her compliments -- her accomplishments in washington. bernie sanders is making
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promises he can't keep. when you look at a politician, i'm done with politicians. the democrats are awfully chart of what they used to believe in. vote for ar politician again. not since abraham lincoln has politics got better. the people in washington forget who them there. they don't figure it that way. we are supposed to be representing the people in this country. democrat or republican. but they are not looking at it this way. want, trump, say what you but ipo on issues. not people who i believe his issues are true because here is a businessman who became successful by hard work and his
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own two hands. he is not going to take a presidential salary. he is not owned by the establishment. -- he'll do says what he says he will do. he works with a lot of world leaders that none of these politicians could do. host: john, thank you. i want to squeeze in another call before we wrap up. that color matching donald trump. cnn, commentson and sandersrump using anger against big money to build their movements. guest: the caller did mention political participation. i think that is an important point to make, not only about iowa, the also new hampshire. you saw some pretty big turnouts in iowa.
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people have to go to the polls if they want to elect the person they want. in new hampshire, it was my first job out of college. we are a few days away from a primary, not where just republicans are going to vote for republicans and democrats are going to vote for republicans, -- is which wayknown are the independents going to go and also which election of the going to bow in? -- vote in?d polls, even right before the , even before i what,
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did not capture the results that happened. polls are different than the system. and onet me squeeze more call. if you could be brief that would be great. caller: good morning. if you haveask investigated the megacorporations, mega banking institutions that give to both parties in order to get access to the wind the office. wins the office. we have written about many special interest and other corporations. it is something that when we do our message nations, where consulate doing them in the context of political influence. in the context of money and politics, both on the right and
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left. i would encourage the viewer to go and read many of these -- theseead host: reports. to be a bigs going storyline for the next couple of weeks as to whether the super pac's supporting hilda clinton are going to come up the sideline and go after bernie sanders. also, looking for marco rubio to see if the so-called republican establishment who have not been behind him get because they are afraid donald trump or ted cruz is going to have a path to the nomination. also, is donald trump going to have enough momentum to win races. that is the big question now. is ted cruz going to be able to sustain that momentum? host: remind us very briefly how
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