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donald: this is aaron, right? this is julie, right? see, i know. will you be okay? folks. wow. a very impressive group. best in the state. -- toust want to shape say thank you to officers for being here. when it justified to congress recently, i talked about how law enforcement has had an effect. i talked about the heroin crisis that we are dealing with. mr. trump says he has concerns for what's been going on toward law enforcement international narrative, and he wants to change that narrative. he wants to talk to the guys on the front lines of the heroin crisis we are under. thank you personally. it means a lot.
without further ado, mr. donald trump. [applause] donald: come on, i'll put it right here. you fellas.ank what a great job you do. so many amazing people. thank you very much. you've done a good job. know, i look at folks like erin and julie, and i see what they go through. it is not an easy situation. the police have been so amazing in our country. recognizedt really the way they should be. you have done such an incredible job. no matter where i go, for some reason, my relationship with the
police has been absolutely incredible. unhave been endorsed by many -- many police in the country. many in the new england area. i am with you so much. i recognize the incredible job you've done. you have done a job like no other. you are not recognized operably. --properly. you will be recognized properly if i win. i can tell you that. you are know what you are going through. you end up fighting for your job. is not going to happen anymore. you have done an incredible job. the people of the country know. i make a lot of speeches all over the country. every time an engine this, -- time i mention this, i get a standing ovation. a lot of folks don't understand it, meaning comedians. every time imagine what a great job the men and women of our police forces do.
the problem is you have one bad apple, which happens in every business. that is in the news cycle for 2 weeks. every time i mention the men and women of the police forces all of the country, the response i get is usually a standing ovation, which is incredible. i want to thank all of you for doing such a great job. this gentlemen is something special. good luck. i am here for all of you. think you very much. [applause] >> i want to do a big group picture. [laughter]
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i am donald trump, and i approve this message. >> the new hampshire primary is tuesday. on friday, our road to the white house coverage continues with quicken purchaser candidate -- with republican presidential candidate carly fiorina speaking in manchester. that is live 8:30 p.m. eastern on c-span two. senator bernie sanders is also in manchester, taking part in the politics and exit breakfast, hosted by the new hampshire student at saint anselm college. you can watch that live at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span.
>> if a caucus is the test of a candidate's organization, which we saw in iowa, a primary is the test of the candidate's message. as you go in, you cast her ballot and leave. versus a caucus, where you spend a couple of hours in a room, hearing speeches, than making a decision. what we are seeing in new hampshire in the past is that the field begins to whittle out on the republican side. a two person race for the democrats. it's the question of expectations. which candidate is able to see those expectations. we see that in new hampshire, because of course, it is the real test of voters. if you saw our coverage right before the iowa caucuses, the one thing we did that no other network it was take you to the campaign rallies, take you to the venues as the candidates try to close the deal before the
iowa caucuses. we will do the same thing right before the new hampshire primary on tuesday. as candidates crisscrossed the state, whether it's a small event or a large rally, the campaign bus will be on the road as well. we will give you a sense of flavor on what's happening in this key state. is the first in the nation primary. new hampshire has a long and rich history. for those of you that are not in new hampshire, a chance to watch it all unfold. >>: can president juan manuel santos --colombian president juan manuel santos holds a meeting with secretary of state john kerry. you can watch that live on c-span. republican presidential candidate jeb bush held a campaign town hall meeting in derry, new hampshire. his first - -- first lady barbara bush introduced him. this is an hour and 40 minutes.
the veterans share and senator judd gregg. [applause] ladies and gentlemen, please rise for the pledge of allegiance. >> i pledge allegiance to the flag, of the united states of america. and to the republic, for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> hoorah! >> thank you jim. >> it is a great pressure to be here in derry tonight. we are big fans of derry, especially of the robin frost home right across the street. we have spent a lot of time
trying to make sure it was preserved. and of course the school has the robert frost title on it. it is a special night to be back in derry. its extraordinary night to have the opportunity to injury city of -- to introduced to you two people. the first person i want to talk about is who i think should be the next president of the united states. [applause] all of you, cathy and i have been looking at all the candidates. that is our job. we are from new hampshire. we take it very seriously as a state. you folks do obviously, because you are here tonight. i put 3 tests down. one, can the present win? it's time we had a republican conservative president. [applause] number two, is the person substantive on the issues? does he have good, fought for approaches to the complex things
to how weapproaches defend our nation and homeland security? and three, 10 he g -- can he govern? that means getting into the ring and working with folks. jeb bush meets all of those criteria in spades. [applause] what is our special honor tonight is to introduced one of the great americans, somebody who has made a huge difference in millions of live across our country. who up it amazes what it is -- who epitomizes what it needs to be a public system. -- to be a public citizen. let me welcome barbara bush and jeb bush, the former governor of florida. [applause]
♪ barbara: it is great to be back in new hampshire. is that on? can you hear me? yes. it's great to be back in new hampshire. we had such wonderful times here. you have the values and the beliefs that we push -- that we bushes believe in. you are givers, you are great. it is great to be with the world's nicest man. [applause]
friends again, and to see all of you. i did not really plan on this. wisest,is the nicest, most caring, loyal, disciplined-- [laughter] barbara: not by me. [laughter] but he's not a braggart. [laughter] we don't allow that. [laughter] but he's decent and honest. he is everything we need in a president. [applause] barbara: his dad an i are very proud of him. ladies and gentlemen, the next president of the united states -- jeb bush. [applause] jeb: thank you mama.
thank you all. you can sit. everybody can sit. thank you all very much. wow. mom, micron sizes are not rowd sizes- mom, my c are not normally this large. i wonder why. it is such a joy to be here with friends, to be with my mother, who i adore, who is an inspiration. i cannot tell you in the probably 90 versions of town hall meetings i have done all across state, how many times people came up and said, i love your mother. [laughter] just over and over again. [applause] as everybodygreat thinks she is, i can just tell you that. [laughter]
jokingly say that when we grew up in houston and midland, that mom was fortunate not to have a child abuse hotline available-- [laughter] the discipline and learning right and wrong was reviewing.my dad was the perfect , idyllic man. to this day, the best man alive. [applause] but she was the one that taught us right and wrong, i can promise you that. it has worked out pretty god. all the mistakes i have made have been my own doing, i can tell you that. it is a delight to be with you all. to cathy and jordan greg, thank you for your leadership in this state. this is the first family of new hampshire. [applause]
mr. bush: you think about people who run to the challenge, or the people who cut and run. you can basically divide politicians into those two camps. john gregg is not a cut and run guy. he solves problems. if you can find a way to build a bipartisan consensus to fix something, he would do it. and he made a difference in improving the quality of life of people in new hampshire and the country, and we need to restore that sense of problem solving and washington, d.c. again. judd, i thank you for your leadership. [applause] mr. bush: because we do need someone who actually has had some experience. eight years ago, last monday, barack obama won the iowa caucuses. i was watching it at home with columba, i was thinking, wow, this guy can bring it. he can deliver a speech. look, i am a committed conservative, but he spoke about no red states, no blue states,
only the united states, and it was inspirational, and he won. in retrospect, now that we are in the eighth year of the obama administration, there was nothing in his background that would suggest that he was a leader. think about it. he was a community organizer. he was a state senator. not of great note. he was two years a united states senator with no bills or sponsorship or anything significant to his name. his life was organized around his own ambition, and he won. instead of creating a unified purpose for our country, he divided us up. today, we are worse off because of that. we are less secure because of that. income is in decline because of that. more people are living in poverty because of that. we need someone who has proven leadership to fix the mess in washington, d.c.
fast-forward to three nights ago in the iowa caucuses, the three leading contenders on the republican side. donald trump? [faint chuckles] mr. bush: i will leave it at that. [applause] [laughter] mr. bush: two gifted freshman senators who can deliver a great speech. very talented, don't get me wrong. one is a close friend. but what in their background would suggest that they can make a tough decision? that they would run to a fire to put it out? that they would figure out a way to solve problems because they have been confronted with those challenges in their life? we are living in dangerous times. we need someone with a proven record who has a steady hand. we need someone who is serious about solving problems. we need someone whose ambition
is to serve others, not to serve their own ambitions. [applause] mr. bush: and yet, i am part of the establishment. i am part of the establishment because i am barbara bush's son. i embrace that every day. that doesn't bother me a bit. [applause] mr. bush: i am proud of my dad, i am proud of my brother, i am proud of being a bush. [applause] mr. bush: but like all families, we are a little different. if you have a sister and a brother, you are probably not the same. my life journey started out in a different way. i felt madly in love with columba from mexico when i was 17 years old. i mean, head over heels, madly
in love. we are now going on 42 years of marriage. [applause] mr. bush: my life can be defined kind of b.c. and a.c., before columba and after columba. thank god the statue of limitations expired on the bc part. [laughter] mr. bush: ac has been built around moving to miami, starting a business that became the largest commercial real estate company. 32 years in the private sector, where i have learned to sign the front side of a paycheck and understand what government regulations mean, how hard it is for people to make ends meet, and how tough it has become with the obama administration.
i got to serve as the governor of the state of florida and i got recognized in a purple state, the largest swing state in the country, with lots of people moving in and out, and i applied conservative principles, sometimes when they were not popular. i stood my ground, i apply these principles. i brought people to my cause. the net effect was that people benefited. in florida, we have a balanced budget amendment. that works, i can promise you. when i left office, we had a surplus of $8 billion more than when we started, $9 billion of reserves. we need a balanced budget amendment for the federal government so that washington begins to live within our means, just as every other state has. [applause]
mr. bush: in florida, they called me veto corleone, because i vetoed 29 line items in the budget. i was an equal opportunity vetoer. if there was a line item that did not go through the process, where it was working out, i vetoed that. they did not matter to me, because the basic concept is that government cannot grow faster than our ability to pay for it. if you believe that, we need a line-item veto power in washington, d.c. [applause] mr. bush: in florida, we eliminated lifetime employment protections for state workers, which is the wrong approach, but it was dangerous to do this politically. i had thousands of volunteers who tried to defeat me in my reelection because god for bid that would spread across the land. you might see the tire mark here, the little scar. taking on the aclu was not easy.
but we ended up reducing the government workforce by 13,011%. but florida led job growth, seven out of eight years. 1.3 million jobs were created. don't you want that in washington, d.c.? [applause] mr. bush: and the place that i would start is the department of veterans affairs. here's the deal. [applause] mr. bush: this bureaucracy of 340,000 people, this is a monstrosity, the largest health care system in the world, and all likelihood, that is there to provide care for men and women in uniform who come back. it is not working the way it should. that's not to say there are not dedicated nurses, doctors, and clinicians in that apartment.
-- inside the department. there certainly are. but interestingly, there is a shortage of care providers but massive numbers of bureaucrats. last year, the department gave out bonuses for all sorts of reasons, including taking veterans off waiting lists. that sounds like a good idea he does that was a scandal from two years ago, where they had this big long list. here is the deal. in some parts of the country, the waiting list was taken down, but veterans did not get care. veterans died. and only three people have been fired. when i am president, heads will roll in the department of veterans affairs. [applause] mr. bush: a couple of weeks ago in a town hall meeting, a woman got up and said my dad had a heart condition, and it was dangerous, so i had to drive all the way to boston to get him tear because there is no veterans facility here.
my response is, we should expand options of private providers. if a veteran wants to see his own doctor, if he wants to go to an up -- if a veteran wants to go to a clinic in his own neighborhood, if a veteran has an emergency, they should be able to go to the emergency room that is closest. [applause] mr. bush: turning the culture in washington, d.c. is important, because then people will be able to trust our government. if it is smaller and focused on serving the people of this great country, we will go back to the business of creating high sustained economic growth, which we need. i know how to do this, because i have done it in the private sector and i have done it as a governor. we toured on barriers. we led the nation in small business growth. the government grew by 2.2%. people can pursue their own dreams.
that is the american way. america does better bottom-up and top-down, and we need to shift power away from washington as fast as possible and put it in the hands of families and businesses. we will rise again, i promise you that. [applause] mr. bush: none of this is going to matter unless people believe that we are safe. today, we are living in dangerous times, and our country is not safe. we have a president who does not believe america's leadership in the world is a force for good. he is desperately wrong, because let me tell you, without american leadership, when we pull back, we see what happens. we talk big but don't act, we see what happens. when we call russia a regional power, and 30 days later they invade ukraine because we have done nothing, we see what
happens. when we say we are pivoting to asia, and the chinese builds a military facility 100 miles off the south china sea because they don't see any pivoting, and our allies wonder why they are talking about pivoting, and the rest of the world is kind of offended that we pivoted away from them to go to asia, you see what happens. when you call isis the jv team and allow for a creation of a caliphate the size of indiana -- it's the same size. [applause] mr. bush: unlike indiana, there are 40,000 battle tested terrorists that organized to destroy western civilization. they attack our freedom everyday. in the past year, there have been 17 plus attacks in 17
countries inspired by isis, or directly organized by them. isis is not the jv team. you cannot contain isis. you have to destroy it in the caliphate if we are going to be kept safe. [applause] mr. bush: look, i have had a front row seat watching history unfold. i am also a student of history, but i have this unique position. i have seen now it is done right. i worked for ronald reagan to get him elected. i worked and saw my dad worked to bring about the end of the cold war and see russia and germany unified in a way that has created stability for europe. i have seen my brother show his determination to leave iraq secure. i know how to do this. it is not about press talking. it is not about talking about carpet bombing.
for senator cruz's edification, carpet bombing, you don't need to do anymore. we have precision weaponry. you don't have to destroy innocent people. [applause] mr. bush: we have left the 1960's and 1970's. we are now in a 21st-century world where we need military superiority based on technological advances. we need to make sure we rebuild our military in a 21st-century way, where our special operators are given more resources, where the marines are given more resources so that more than half of them are defined as ready when they are based here in this country. we need to rebuild our air force. the pilots are younger than the planes. the b-52 was launched and inaugurated in the truman era. this is a serious time, and we need a serious leader to rebuild our military not to use it, but to keep the peace. ronald reagan was right in that the military is used to keep
peace. [applause] mr. bush: something that makes me take more than politics, it's that i believe that life is a gift from god, divinely inspired. that we all have a purpose and a meaning in this world. imagine a country where everybody reached their full potential. right now, somebody people are held back because of an addiction, or because of the lack of ability to rise up. young people have student debt on their backs, making it hard to have the first step forward. small businesses are closing rather than opening. if you believe like i do that this is divinely inspired, then it is the duty of people in public life to tear down the barriers, not to say get in line because life is not fair, you have liabilities, i will manage them. i will create another spending
program. we will tax the successful people because that's why you are not successful. that does not work. we are spiraling downward with that philosophy. we need to build capacity so that people can earn success in their own fashion, and all the interaction amongst us will create more prosperity, benefits, love, and compassion than any other government program ever created. that's what i believe in my heart. [applause] mr. bush: in order for that to happen, we need a servant leader. we don't need the big dog on the stage, barking out stuff, insulting people. we need someone who has a proven record, who has a servant's heart. last year, i met a young woman from jacksonville, florida. she told me her story.
she was born on the other side of the tracks, this terminology that i find so un-american, to be honest. i yearn for the day where it does not matter what zip code you were born in. [applause] mr. bush: the woman was a third grader when i implement at the policy that was considered radical at this time, but nobody has done it as dramatically as florida, which is ending social promotion in third grade. there is this idea that you are functionally illiterate as a third grader, you go to fourth grade, and somehow there will be some your goal that you will learn math even though you cannot read the book. you will learn history even though you cannot read. too many kids in florida at the time, more than 1/3 of the kids, were defined as functionally illiterate.
it is what my dad called the soft bigotry of expectations. it is shameful. this precious girl was held back two years. i imagine she was angry, but her godmother found out about the florida corporate tax scholarship program, a program that i created along with the florida legislature that is the largest voucher program in the country. 80,000 low income kids go to private schools because i took on powerful interests and i won. [applause] mr. bush: and the girl got to go to a christian school. the first week, her teacher put her arm around her and said, i love you, you can do this. jesus loves you. it was a christian school, so that is allowed.
you can do this. we can do this together. you have the capacity to do whatever you want. and the girl overcame the two years of being held back. she was the first in her immediate family to graduate from high school and college. and now, she is getting a masters at the university of south florida. [applause] mr. bush: you know what? i think she is going to support me. i think she is. she campaigned here. in new hampshire, you never know until the actual vote because you all wait until the last moment, but in her case, i am certain she is going to support me. but i have never asked if she is a republican or a democrat. that's not the point. we need someone with a servant's
heart, that does not focus group things, that does what's right, that focuses on building strategy so everybody can lift up again. by the way, the only way of a conservative is going to win the presidency is to campaign with their arms wide open, with joy in their heart, with a positive message. that's the only way. [applause] mr. bush: if you are tired of the dividers, of the angry voices, of the profanity, of the loud voices, instead of uplifting messages that bring us together -- [applause] mr. bush: that you have this extraordinary opportunity. you live in new hampshire. you can change the course of any campaign anytime you want. you don't have to say the pundits have figured it out. in fact, you will figure it out for the pundits. that is the amazing thing. [applause]
mr. bush: people in new hampshire set the agenda for the next part of this phase, this journey of electing a president, and i trust you. i trust you because you take the time to learn. you understand the heartbeat of the candidates. you understand if they are sincere or playing games. you challenge of us. you frustratingly never commit when i asked. [laughter] mr. bush: sometimes you do, but a lot of times you don't. so all i can say is that i trust you, and i do have faith in you, and this has been an extraordinary journey for me, and i ask for your support. [applause] mr. bush: ok.
we have a microphone there, and a microphone back there, and a microphone there. yes, sir. >> i'm going to hold it. mr. bush: ok, so you will hold it hostage. >> first of all, i want to thank you and your mother for visiting our town tonight. [applause] >> i'm going to start you off with a foreign-policy question. this year, the primary coincides with the beginning of chinese new year. please discuss your philosophy in dealing with a commerce and military perspective with china. mr. bush: we need complete engagement. one of the things i think my brother got right was having this dialogue across the spectrum of all policy. my experience with china was
limited to -- since 2007, i started visiting there three or four times a year to learn. i had never been there. i am kind of an old-school guy. i don't like communists. [laughter] [applause] mr. bush: i had a hard time going to communist countries. but this is a very important relationship. you can see how misunderstandings can create real problems. here is a story that kind of exemplifies that. right after president obama got reelected, he had a summit with president xi in palm springs, and it was a big deal. i was there when the summit was taking place, right after that. mrs. obama did not go to the summit. that was a massive offense to the chinese. every meeting i went to, it was like, why are you insulting our glamorous first lady? why are you doing this?
this is a big sign of disrespect. mrs. obama was probably taking care of her children in a pressure cooker called the white house, two teenage kids. there is a legitimate reason why she would not make it. my guess, i am almost 99.999% sure that she did not organize this important relationship, but nobody thought that. they all thought the opposite. it embedded me, that we have to have this full engagement with the chinese. there are lots of conflicts that have to be far worse if we don't engage. and again, we need to make sure if they do things that are egregious against our interests, like attacking into the office of personnel management, 23 million files in the hands of the communist chinese right now,
that there are consequences. that we don't slap them on the hand. that we have the ability to use cyber warfare in the same way that they do, that they know that there will be a consequence when they take the action, try to steal our intellectual property, or hack into our systems. when they act provocatively, we need to engage with our allies. it is an important relationship as it relates to our own national security. as it relates to the economy, it is also important, which is why trump toss idea of a 45% tariff across the board, give me a break. that would create a global depression. it will create a loss of millions of jobs in this country. it will destroy our economy. and it will be retaliated against immediately. this is not the kind of response to anything. we need to be serious about this.
i think it is important, perhaps the most complicated relationship that has to be managed going forward. yes? >> i am a wildlife biologist in new hampshire. our moose numbers are down about 50% over the last decade as our winters have grown shorter. the female falls off in april, the babies hatch, we are loose until next winter. also, today was 60 degrees. when it is above 20 degrees, the moose lay down and do not feed, so consequently our female moose are producing fewer calves. i am looking for a republican to vote for next tuesday who is willing to take climate change in a serious manner and be forward thinking.
i am hoping i will vote for you. [applause] mr. bush: i have four grandkids, and this is the third moose i have gotten in town hall meetings. [laughter] [applause] mr. bush: i need one more. i am looking for number four. this one is going to prescott in austin. george and vivian have already gotten theirs. the question is a good one, because i live in miami, where if you have four inches of rising tide, you have an impact on the quality of our water. our water supply would be in peril. in high tides, you can have severe flooding. it is not as egregious as -- president obama talked about how miami beach is underwater. i guess he hasn't been down there, someone told him that maybe. it's not that bad. overall, if we don't plan for these things and adapt, there could be serious repercussions
as it relates -- you know, different places will have different impacts. i think climate is changing. it is inconceivable to me that 5 billion people on this planet don't have an impact on that, and that we should be planning over the long haul to deal with it. here is what i worry about. i worry about our plans, such as today that the president proposed -- i don't think he's doing this unilaterally -- he has proposed a $10 tax on a barrel of oil, all of which will be passed on. the people who get hurt by that are working people, who right now are struggling. the people who are heard by that are those with declining incomes right now. disposable income in this country is down $2300. the challenge is to figure out ways to make sure we don't hurt working people in trying to
solve this problem. the better approach would be for the government to spend money on research and development, to identify the next generation of renewable energies, or other disruptive technologies that will allow us to consume less energy and yield a good result. that is a better approach than trying to pick winners and losers in the market, or trying to pick through venture capital. that doesn't work. carbon emissions have declined by 10% in the last decade because of an explosion of natural gas. that seems to be a good result, but nobody seems to celebrate that. you want to find economic growth and protecting the environment to be the intersection that you are trying to find. that's what we did in florida. in florida, there is a bipartisan consensus about protecting the environment. like here, you love your environment for two reasons. one, it is beautiful. the leaves changing in the fall,
i have never seen anything like it. it is knockdown gorgeous, beautiful. florida survives because of our natural beauty as well. we are stewards of our environment because 95 million people come to visit us. it is the reason we don't have an income tax, probably the reason you don't have an income tax. people come to visit. so protecting the national environment is important, because that is our responsibility. it is also important for economic purposes, and finding a way to find a win-win is what we should be doing. [applause] mr. bush: what do you think? [laughter] mr. bush: i'm making progress? you are not ready to commit yet? [laughter] mr. bush: see what i say? yes, sir.
we've got a mic coming. >> first of all, i want to thank you for falling out the respectability scorecard. second of all, i wanted to know, it seems that people with mental illness and the addicted are being treated by being sent to prison and jails instead of eating the actual help that they need. what would you do as president to change that? mr. bush: great question. i am proud of my record, by the way, in support of people with different disabilities, develop mental and physical. it is informed by my faith in many ways, and as governor of florida, we have made great progress. we were at the bottom of the pack, and we have risen up, and i am proud of it. it is why i didn't apologize when i called donald trump a jerk.
[laughter] [applause] mr. bush: when he disparaged people with disabilities. it is not right. that is not the america i believe in. [applause] mr. bush: this challenge of addiction and mental health, it is important that you have both together. in many cases, in my personal experiences, these are dually diagnosed. it is hard to know which is the atalyst for the other. the journey that columba and i have done as loving parents with our daughter that suffered with addiction, you could go to one psychiatrist and get one diagnosis, and go to someone
who is equally smart at an equally good school, and you could have a dramatically different approach. there are people in this room who have gone through this challenge of addiction -- alcohol abuse, opiates, heroin, these are troubling times. -- ry health has a serious mental health has a serious ailment as well. i think we need to look at this as an illness, that it needs to be treated, so that people who struggle with addictions need to have a network of people they can rely on. secondly, our criminal justice system has to recognize that there has to be second chances. 50% of people that are serving time in our federal penitentiary's are doing it for drug-related crimes. personal use.
and that has to change. and this is a place where you would think -- there are a growing number of people on the right and left to want to change this -- you would think that if we have a leader who acknowledges that there are people on the right who agree, that they would posit this divide and go at it. i would be like a pig in slop in washington. why would you wait? instead, the president is using the clemency process, instead of going to congress, finding people who are conservative who believe it is time to modify our mandatory minimum sentencing guidelines. huge numbers of people agree with that, but this is what the lack of leadership does. we can solve this program. as governor of florida, i created a strategy. y first week in office, we had
a summit of 500 people, and we had prevention advocates, treatment providers, mental health advocates, and law enforcement all in a room, and we created a strategy. and we acted on that trategy. we had action items, and every year we would adapt the strategy based on the results, and we measure the effectiveness. it was like running a business. if you don't measure things, you don't care. my wife was the madrina of the prevention caucus. she created different coalitions, and it worked. we sought reductions. we expanded drug courts across the state. my daughter went to drug court. you know, i have been to a lot of graduations. perhaps the most meaningful graduation for me was when she graduated from drug court, because it ain't easy, but it gave her a second chance, because had she not graduated
she would have gone jail. having that consequence was a powerful incentive for her. thankfully, like a lot of other people because of the health that we have provided and others have provided, noelle has been drug-free for more than 10 years. [applause] >> governor, it appears accountability and public schools is in decline, both at the federal and state level. what is your vision for getting more kids to graduate career college ready, one today the majority of them simply do not raduate? mr. bush: i am being generous, about 40% of kids graduate -- 80% graduate with a piece of paper that says, i am a high school graduate.
who's fooling who? we dumb it all down to make hem feel good. the net result is, check the remediation rate of entering high school seniors into community colleges in new hampshire, and you will find that it is not dissimilar to florida. more than 50% are we doing high school map or high school reading. and career readiness, forget it. it is not remotely close. i got politifact-ed, have you heard of that? the journalists are like judges, and they give you ratings. the ratings are like pinocchios. i got a couple of pinocchios or saying intercept more belgium and luxembourg are ahead of us. i apologize. i apologize to the mighty than any other country in jurists who came up to the world. itthat. turns out that's where we are. in florida, we challenged that by grading schools based on student learning.
in florida, we challenged the notion that you are passed along even though you can't ead. we had the greatest gains in reading of any state. florida's hispanic kids are two great levels ahead of their counterparts in other parts of the country. there was a test called the ation's report card, we were 29th out of 31 in 1998. the year i ran. 10 years later, we were six out of 50. [applause] mr. bush: there is no one thing. we have the most ambitious school choice programs, both public and private. that's important. we raised standards, that's important. that's important. we made assessment important, that you have an accurate assessment tool. that's important. we were rewarded improvement. if you show improvement in letter grade, you get $100 per student more.
it is amazing. you provide incentives for other people, people seem to get it. the largest bonus program for teachers in the united states is the school recognition program. we turned the system upside down. we were 50 out of 50 and the graduation rate. we could not even say, thank god for phil in the blank for the worst state. everybody else in the country said, thank god for florida, they are 50th. so we are now above the national average. this is a state where 50% of students qualify for free or reduced lunch. the federal government can play a role in providing money for reforms, but it cannot be the national school board. i am passionate about this. i visited 250 schools when i ran in 1998. i learned so much about the dedicated nature of teachers, and i learned about the system that was economically organized
around the interests of adults. it changed how i talked about this. it did not change my passion for disruption, because we need to disrupt as much as we can, reward the excellence that takes place, and have no tolerance for the mediocrity that takes place in classrooms. assume that students can learn. it does not matter what zip code they were born in, every kid can learn. we should not lower expectations because we will get a bad result. but it is hard in the federal system to make this a national riority. you would think everybody would consider this the right thing to do. i know that people move to florida now because our schools were significantly better than they were when i started. yes, sir. [applause] mr. bush: one other thing, people say, what about common core? common core is on higher standards than those that existed in prior states.
here's what i believe about common core. it should not be imposed by the federal government. here should be no requirements from the federal government on content curriculum or standards, directly or indirectly. [applause] mr. bush: someone is smoking in here. lighting up in the school. [laughter] >> how are you going to kill our country's debt by the time you are out of office? mr. bush: i don't know if i can kill the debt. if you are looking for that, you are not going to find it. i will be honest with you. $19 trillion of debt, you can reduce the deficit to the point where our economy is growing and our debt remains static, which means that ultimately we will be solvent.
that will be the objective. you can do that in eight years if you are serious. what is interesting, this is my fifth town hall meeting in a row where a child, a young, smart person, has asked me this question, or their dad, on behalf of their two sons. it is the right question to ask at your age, because if we don't do anything, the debt will overwhelm everything else. it is the number one national security issue. if you are concerned about the mentally ill, infrastructure, drug discovery, education. whatever the program is, the $19 trillion of debt and growing deficit is the biggest problem we face. so i appreciate the question. four things we could do to move toward a balanced budget -- high growth. 4% growth compared to 2% growth. we will create more revenue because taxes are by
prosperity, right? and less demands on government. secondly, we need to fix the entitlement programs. this is the time where i pull out the booklet. we have laid out specific proposals on how to preserve and protect social security for those who are counting on it now, and over a period of time make it solvent. ame thing with replacing obamacare and replacing -- [applause] mr. bush: with a conservative -- [applause] mr. bush: same with medicare, to protect it so it will exist 10 years from now, because it won't. we need entitlement reform. we need career civil services reform, which means that the overall cost of government needs to shrink. it is hard to do that when you
have protections. government workers make 40% more than their private sector counterparts for lifetime obs. that is not fair. i think we need civil reform. and finally, we need to shift power back as -- i'm a 10th amendment guy. do you know what the 10th amendment is? have you studied that? >> no. mr. bush: go look it up. it is an important one. it basically says that states have the power to govern, and if it is not empowered by the states, the federal government does not have the powers that they are given. we need to shift the power back to the states. much environmental policy should be given back to the states. if you talk about the moose policy, i am sure people here
care more about that than the people inside washington. those are the four things that get us closer to a balanced budget. but i think we need a balanced budget amendment to the constitution as well, which would require the states to convene that. [applause] mr. bush: yes. what does bdt mean? >> mr. bush: sounds like a good idea. >> definitely a good idea. my husband was diagnosed with: cancer 20 years ago. my son was recently diagnosed with the precursor that will lead up to colon cancer, am -- and will need to have surgery at somewhat will you do for research to help prevent cancer, ms, all those other diseases that need more research? mr. bush: there are a couple of places where i think we should be spending more money. for everything else, you have point in the future. to figure out how to spend less.
the place where we need just been more money is defense, national security. it is research and development for alternative energy sources and drug discovery. and space. because of national security. also, our country should be more aspirational. i think the space program symbolizes that, the technologies and discoveries that you can find in space have a direct that a fit for our country. -- direct benefit for our country. but it also has a national security implication. the space program has been really good. those are the places we need to spend more money. as it relates to drug discovery, there have been big increases in the national institute of health. we need to restore those cuts. an we be more efficient?
yeah, because the cost is doubling like, every 10 years, and the time for drugs to be approved is also doubling. that cost is borne by all of us. apart from cancer, which my mom and dad had been actively involved in, the other places we need to spend money -- if you want a moonshot, a moonshot to the brain would be a nice place, to deal with addiction. why are some prone when others are not? what about alzheimer's and dementia? just a share of hands, people that you know, family members who have dementia. yeah it's -- mr. bush: yeah, my mom in law is 94 years old, and she is just a total gift from god. she has dementia. last time i saw her, she
recognized me for the first time in 10 years. all of a sudden, she came ack. when i get to miami eventually, she might not remember me again. it's a challenge. there are no new medications for dementia. how about autism? you take these measures for the brain, we are not advanced at all. all of these should be a commitment for sure, and i wish the boy well, and her husband. yes? [applause] >> thanks for talking with us tonight. the internet has become critical to both our economy, and also doing well in school. what i am wondering is what you would do as president to make sure that all americans have access to high-speed internet at an affordable cost in both
rural and urban areas. mr. bush: the programs are available. they can be reformed. here are proposals under way. when i was in the private sector and not unemployed and running for president -- mr. bush: i was working on working with technology companies in california to dramatically expand broadband in schools. some states have done extraordinarily, others have lagged behind. it is uneven, to say the least. the national effort like this could be done without a massive cost. this is not the hardest thing in the world to do. but there has to be a strategy. you have to go at it. the effort that i saw that would be the most cost
effective was one that was based in san francisco, where they had identified the shortfall. sometimes, you talk about broadband into the school, but they have identified that it has to get into the classroom as well. that extra 100 yards can be more expensive, but you can do this wirelessly. you don't have to wire the classrooms again, and you can save a lot of money. what bothers me about the regulation of the internet is the obama administration's rule, using the law to regulate access to the internet. i think that will stymie the investment in broadband. this control orientation of washington is dangerous. the problem did not exist. they are regulating something that is now a problem. > mr. bush: yes, sir. do you want to come shake her hand first? >> i would like to ask a question. i worked for myself for 50
years. i'm still paying social security, taxes, and your talking about increasing the social security age. when is somebody can start talking about that? >> why should i pay taxes at 73 years old so somebody can retire at 55? [applause] mr. bush: here is the answer to your question. this will be a fight. iran will not change because we legitimize the regime. public unions will not give up what they have got without a fight. i will fight. [applause] mr. bush: in your case, what i propose that hopefully will warm your heart is that once you reach retirement age, which ou are way past -- mr. bush: you are working for business, right?
you are self-employed. you pay the 13% or whatever payroll tax -- once you reach retirement age in my plan, you don't pay it. you keep it here and you already reached retirement age. [applause] mr. bush: i can't hear you. >> for federal employees to retire, it's 55 years old. mr. bush: we need to fight the public unions. just by attrition, the federal employee -- maybe because they retire early -- you can reduce the workforce by 10% just by not hiring new people, just by attrition. a lot of the cost structure will go down as well, because this is not all performance-based. this is longevity base. you get better benefits by being there longer. i propose three-for-one deal. you can reduce of the government workforce by 10% if you can do that. [applause]
you pay the 13% or whatever payroll tax -- once you reach retirement age in my plan, you don't pay it. you keep it here and you already reached retirement age. [applause] mr. bush: i can't hear you. >> for federal employees to retire, it's 55 years old. mr. bush: we need to fight the public unions. just by attrition, the federal employee -- maybe because they retire early -- you can reduce the workforce by 10% just by not hiring new people, just by attrition. a lot of the cost structure will go down as well, because this is not all performance-based. his is longevity base.
you get better benefits by being there longer. i propose three-for-one deal. you can reduce of the government workforce by 10% if you can do that. [applause] >> my name is james. i'm wondering which are going to do on immigration. mr. bush: they said the ghana build a wall and make mexico pay for it, are you talking about that plan? that is not a plan. that is an emotion. that is appealing to people's legitimate anger. we need a plan. we don't need people preying on people's fears and anger. that does not solve the problem. [applause] mr. bush: any immigration plan requires controlling the border. there are two parts to that. half of the illegal immigrants come with a legal visa and verstay.
a pretty extraordinary number if you think about it. you have to have intrigue and exits fees a biometrics, which the congress has funded and the administration has not implemented. you need additional administrative capacities to identify where these folks are so they can be politely asked her to leave. they have a six-month visa, they should go home. if they want to come back, they should get another visa. on the border, we should build additional fencing where appropriate. there are places on the border where if you build a wall, u.s. citizens would be on the other side of the wall. parts of our border are so rugged that you can't build a wall unless it was at an extra in a cost. use gps technologies. there has been expansion of that technology. se drone technology. back to the public unions for ne moment, the border patrol
has negotiated agreements that make it hard for forward eaning towards the border. we have border patrol agents 40 iles off the border. they are not on the border. and let somebody can explain to me why that is a good strategy, changing that, so that we have more forward leaning nature. we can control the border. we need to create a strategy, invest in it, and act on it. we need to eliminate sanctuary cities. [applause] mr. bush: the federal laws ought to be upheld, plain and simple, particularly when by
not doing it you are endangering communities. in san francisco and many other cities, they are openly violating federal law because they can. that is just wrong. you can withhold federal law enforcement dollars. we need an de-verify program that is verifiable, so that when businesses hire someone they know they are here legally. we need to narrow the number of people coming -- today we have adult siblings and adult parents, and it is called chain migration. 85% of all legal immigrants come that way. mmigration can be a drain or it can be a contribution to our society. we should aspire to make a contribution, so changing that is part of it. [applause] mr. bush: and finally, the part that gets people all riled up
is what do we do with the 12 million people here illegally. you can pound your chest or you want and say we are going to create an environment so bad for people that we create self deportation. i don't know how you target misery. i will get to my plan here in a econd. you can say we are going to deport them as one candidate says over two years, a half a million people. we have half a million people going through our court systems today. with double that, it would cost hundreds of billions of dollars. or you could say come out of the shadows, pay a fine, learning words, work, don't receive federal government assistance, no crimes or you are deported, and over an extended time, you earn legal status. you don't earn citizenship.
you aren't legal status so that you don't cut and line. that to me is the conservative alternative, a practical conservative alternative they could be implemented, and that is what i believe and support. [applause] >> thank you for coming. that is my son connor. mr. bush: ask your question and i will do the signatures. >> you've touched on the lot of topics that are important to me, disabilities, increased cases of cancer and things like that. i don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but i'm wondering that if, when you become president, what we you do to make sure our foods are labeled properly so that people who want to avoid genetically modified foods can. mr. bush: it is a good question.
first of all, i'm guilty when 'm not home. i do the shopping. that has been broken since i haven't been back in three weeks. normally i go shopping and love to look at all the labeling. there has been an explosion of new things. this is one of the examples that -- if people decide to do something together, the government has to react and adjust. i sense just watching this new kind of explosion of organic foods and foods that have all these different variations in the industrial model we are used to do, i don't consider it a conspiracy at all. i consider it growing consumer awareness, and that will change our behaviors about how we go about this. how do we do this where working people can ask the access the
food? how do we do this so that it doesn't cost 30% more than the lower cost variation? the private sector will adjust and figure out ways to lower the cost, but i would not mandated because people are struggling now. we are to have 47 million people receiving food stamps, from 20 million people to 47 million people in 12 years. it has been an explosion. so anything you do to increase demand on government egos people can't afford what your mandate is, i would because his about that. i would be about increasing consumer awareness and health, exercise and food are the two things you can control to live a healthy lifestyle and not be sick. it is good for our economy when people aren't sick. it is good for your pocketbook and you're not sick or it it is certainly good to have access to the kind of food that keeps you healthier. it really isn't a conspiracy. it is a growing movement i find really intriguing. yes? ou like that back there.
>> i want to thank your mother for her early and unfailing support of family literacy. mr. bush: yes. >> i am a physician and i attended a conference this afternoon at the baptist church regarding addiction. i learned there that 40,000 people died last year of overdoses in this country. i practice in a very rural area in virginia where we have a tremendous problem with addiction, both illegal and prescription drugs. two companies have been heavily implicated in this problem. ne of them is the manufacturer of -- and they admitted they lied about the diction potential of their product and have pushed it on physicians nd patients.
this is one of the major prescription drugs that have caused overdoses. of the three candidates i have heard, each of you have had a relative or friend who has been involved in drug addiction problems. even to the point of dying. one of my family members also died from a drug overdose last year. the second corporation that is mplicated in this is a mega-bank, and they have admitted to laundering money for the drug cartels to the point where they actually modified their teller windows to accommodate the cash boxes of the cartel members. i think you know the name of the bank. r. bush: no.
>> hsbc. mr. bush: i do. >> nobody in any of these companies has gone to prison or been prosecuted. i think this reflects a wider problem of white-collar crime, and i'm wondering if you are point an attorney general and direct him or her to approach what color with the same seriousness and figure that they have approached the low level drug prosecutions? mr. bush: that is a good question, both of those. [applause] mr. bush: the answer to that is, yes. here is another challenge for your profession. i have been told, and maybe you can confirm this, that 90% of all the painkillers prescribed in the world are prescribed in the united states. and so, put aside -- i don't know the name of the manufacturer of oxycontin. it is prescribed by doctor. the fda allowed opiates to be prescribed for children. we have changed our attitudes
about pain and how we have managed pain to the point where we have legitimized addictions that then create the escape into which now we see the heroin epidemic playing out. i think there needs to be a across-the-board review about how we do with pain, how we deal with companies that are abusing whatever relationship they have, hsbc. if the executives knowingly did this to profit, poisoning our communities, there should be more than a civil penalty. there should be criminal violations, for sure. mi close to that -- am i close to that? >> i believe this also reflects the corrupting influence of obbying and money in the political process whereby these doctors -- mr. bush: doctors prescribing
pain medication? >> absolutely. with poor regulation, they are allowed to pay physicians to give supposedly educational conferences to push their products. it is a real problem. i think it reflects the general orruption of the political process in this country. mr. bush: i would say that doctors have a disproportionate responsibility for this in that they don't have to prescribe. they are creating this gate into heroin addiction that i hink there should be growing awareness of. here is one solution. we should have prescription drug databases that are accessed, protecting privacy and all that, where people can see, law enforcement can see -- we have it in florida, and we have seen a dramatic reduction in doctor and pharmacy shopping.
then it gets in the market, and they sell these pills are great profit. there are ways to monitor this so that the isolated cases that create a disproportionate amount of the problem can be monitored as well. >> -- living on a border, as i did, we weren't able to catch people who were crossing ver. mr. bush: thank you. yes, ma'am. hang on, we have got to -- >> i have been in medicine one way or another my whole life. i am appalled at the allowance of the internet and the tv advertising of prescription drugs.
[applause] >> painkillers, prescription drugs of all kinds, promises made to patients, put the doctor on the spot. if he does not prescribe the patient, the drug company loses. they've got pressure on the doctor to use that drug. but the doctor does it really want to. what if the patient comes back to him and says, so and so took it and she is cured? why didn't you do it for me? and so the physician is caught between advertising -- i would like to see advertising of perception drugs liminated. [applause] mr. bush: ok. that is a good point. all i know is that when i go see my doctor, i don't convince him of anything.
[applause] mr. bush: he tells me what i'm doing wrong, and i am supposed to salute. one more. yes? welcome back. nice to see you. i've missed you. you know, i feel offended that you haven't come to any of my events recently. [applause] mr. bush: he is a nice guy. he is unusual. e is a good man. >> we talked a lot about domestic events, but i'm wondering about what you are going to do about the caliphate. i have heard that you are in avor of arming the kurds. mr. bush: prior to the attacks in paris and san bernardino, so i consider this to be an issue before it became the number one
issue in the minds of voters. the strategy i laid out was to arm the kurds, but not with the kind of weaponry that would allow them to be more effective in their fighting. to embed our troops are did there inside the iragi military, to give them training and a backbone, if you will, because ultimately when we leave, there needs to be a secure iraq without isis there. we need to reengage with the sunni tribal leaders that did create a partnership with american troops the surge that led to a fragile, but secure raq. we need to get the war fighters off the backs of the military. when you consider the fact that there are multilayers of approval for launching ordinances, sorties when they leave the bases. half of the missions go back without dropping their
ordinances because there are all these additional approvals that i think are inappropriate, and so do the people who have advised me on this that understand how that part of the world works. we need a no-fly zone inferior, save stones in syria, to protect the innocent people in syria that are being starved to death by bashar al-assad or enslaved by isis. this is one of the greatest humanity and that humanitarian tragedies that exist. 4 million refugees have left the country, grading and stability for the world. we need to deal with it there and build a semi-led army with the middle eastern support. so that you can have a stable, moderate syria that would allow for this boy to be filled once and not for all with something more peaceful. we can win militarily, but will never win unless we create the ultimate stability, which requires american eadership.
america's the only country in the world and lead in this regard. this is the fallacy of the obama administration, incrementalism, the believe that we are part of the community of nations, no, no, we lead. we are not the world's policeman, but we have to lead. no one else can do this. [applause] mr. bush: thank you all very much. god bless you. [applause] plays]
>> here we are in derry, new hampshire, where governor bush has just finished this event with his mother. we will talk with a reporter -- some people about tonight's event. it is down to the wire for these candidates. what did you see in the governor's pitch? >> there is a lot of enthusiasm in the room tonight. it is crunch time. if you have an asset, this is the time to use it. governor bush's asset is his family and mother. >> was the tone any different with his mother there? one time he called donald trump a jerk, he apologized to his mother. did you have a sense that her presence changes him? >> he was more upbeat, spoke from the heart, but there was more strength to what he had to say, more conviction and
dedication in his voice. >> so your colleague tweeted that barbara bush is beloved, and i wonder how that will translate in the voters in the state next tuesday. is her presence enough to convince those on the fence to ote for governor bush? the strategists say. if you spoke to somenologist the room, some didn't realize she was going to be here. they were excited that she was here. it was an added benefit. they are fans of his father, his brother and his. - fans of his. >> what are the challenges to place well over the next couple of days? >> you heard the governor mentioned it himself, getting undecided voters to commit to his campaign, to decide on him.
you heard him say that it comes down to the wire, so i think it is pushing to get those folks to decide in his favor. >> what would be your lead? >> it is all about barbara bush tonight. >> this mood in the electric is what as they go into the polls? >> there are a variety of words, angry, frustrated, some people are dispassionate. they don't feel compelled to vote for anybody, which is why they are so on the fence. they feel unenthusiastic. you pick a word, i feel like i have heard it. >> the weather tomorrow morning. everybody is hoping it doesn't snow next tuesday. thank you so much for your interpretation tonight. >> thank you. >> we will also talk to some of the people in the room tonight. derek? what is your last name? you are from londonderry. >> why did you come tonight?
>> i like to see all of the candidates, living in new hampshire. our state of 1.3 million people has such a large essay in this process, and i love going to the events in seeing the candidates. >> are you a registered democrat or republican? >> registered republican. >> have you not made up your mind? >> i have a couple that i'm leaning towards. > how does governor bush fare? >> not among them. he is more towards the middle. i am more to the right. he said that, yes, i am part of the establishment, and that did not go across well with me. >> who is your top candidate? >> ted cruz. >> what are you looking for in a president? >> he is a straight shooter and will back down. he is against the ethanol mandate. he is a likable guy. he has a lot to offer. he is the conservator direction
i would like to see this country go in. >> are you so glad you came tonight? >> yes. >> why is that? >> i am fortunate enough to live in a state that has such a big say in this process. >> are you new hampshire born and bred? >> i've been here since 2008, before that in massachusetts. >> have you participated in every time and gone out every time the presidential candidates have been here? >> ever since i was 18, i voted in everything. >> thank you for talking to us. coming up next, a mother and son. how old are you? >> 14. >> what you think about what you saw tonight? >> i like him. his idealism, taking down isis. he wants to go forward into it more.