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in hereted to come would learn he had to stay in person. i wanted to get a feel for him face to face. i am already planning on voting for him, but i wanted to confirm how i felt. >> what was it like saying in the room? >> it was pretty much the same. he seems very authentic. that is good news. >> what about his message is important for you? , sort ofls the truth
where it falls. up someone on the other side, the republican side. he will back up hillary. i like his reverence for the truth, i guess. you planning to see more candidates over the weekend? >> i will not be seeing any more this weekend. i would like to if i had more time, but i took the morning off today. talking to us,r crossing the border to see senator sanders. >> thank you.
>> meet randy schroeder. you came because you are already supporting senator sanders? supporting senator sanders. supporter of big our programs. they are federally funded programs for low income students. upward bound is one of them. i happen to work for student services. upward bound as college-bound, so it is giving students access and opportunities to go on to higher education. >> you are a new hampshire long-time resident or native? >> yes, i am a yankee. >> why do you think his message
is resonating. why is he so far ahead in the polls? bein treo, we need to nonpartisan. we get support from republicans and democrats. senator sanders has been an anonymous supporter of the programs nationally and vermont. i think inequality is the signature issue right now. is hitting that right on the head, and a lot of people are responding to that. the focus of so much wealth with so few people is devastating. we don't have an economy and less middle-class people and lower-class people are thriving. >> the new hampshire economy has been doing pretty well. there have been tough years, but this is not one of them. what's going on? >> nationally, things are not so well. if you dig beneath the low
unemployment, you will see a lot of folks, especially in the rural north countries. a lot of households don't have access to information. that is a huge issue. people who have access to the internet easily don't think about it. we have poor folks up north you can't get online. i think there is a lot of hidden inequality and poverty that people don't see anymore, because over all the economy, you're right, is doing well. >> can you handicapper will happen on tuesday? >> on tuesday, there will be a very large turnout and i will be excited to see the results. >> thank you for speaking with us. >> thank you very much for being here.
>> our final interview is with jim brett, one of the organizers of politics and eggs. >> i believe in 1995 our speaker jack camp. we have come a long way. .- jack kemp we have come a long way. all candidates made it because it realize it is a must stop. >> the 17 candidates that come here, does the audience change or isn't basically the same people who want to hear as many as a cam? that went hard-core
on these breakfast events at no charge. 50% are supporters of the candidates or undecided and want to hear more from the candidates. >> do remember when the first one happen this cycle. ? how early wasn't? >> we did our first one in the fall. >> we started covering events in 2013. the cycle starts earlier and earlier. >> they do. some have been twice because the first time they have a book, so they want to talk about the book. the second time is when they announce as a candidate. >> do these things continue after the election is over? >> what we do now is bring in media stars, political strategists. they come in and talk about the campaign as it is going for throughout the country, so we
will bring in people from the washington post, new york times, update. given i think they really enjoy doing it today enjoy the audience. the attendance is unbelievable. >> what did you think about this morning's event? >> i think it was pretty good. he admitted in his remarks, frustration and anger, he has tapped into that throughout the country. there is a great deal of population that is just angry, angry at the way government has been conducted, angry at their about theiry income, not getting the wages they deserve. they are angry about trade legislation. just anger, and that his sweet spot. he cap center that and they relate to hemp you he is translating that anger into politics, so i think that is effective for him, and obviously it has worked well here. it will continue to work well on tuesday. i think the other thing that people admire about him is that
it is not so much they agree with him on all the issues, but they admire his consistency on the issues. these are his believes dating back to when he ran for mayor of burlington, vermont, so they admire that he is consistent in his passion of certain issues, like poverty. people take a step back and say it is refreshing. these are issues he has talked about since the 1980's. >> do see a similar thing with mr. trump? >> he is on the extreme on the other side. anger, frustration. people are saying that they are fed up and don't like the way government is being run, and angry republicans. these are republicans angry republicans in washington saying we have control the house and senate, but we don't seem to be doing anything. president ise
winning, and that frustrates a lot of these republicans here. why is that if we are in charge? that some of them are republicans in name only. donald trump comes along and says the days of losing her over. we are going to win. he has tapped into that. whether that can last throughout the campaign, he will do well here. he has some strong competition now. >> what your predictions for tuesday? >> i think it's going to be very high, might even be a record. i think out of trouble when, and the question will be who is coming in second. right now they think on the republican side that marco rubio has not much an organization, but has momentum. day, so might rule the i think he is somebody to watch. it is a day of judgment for
governor kasich and governor christie. they have to do well here. i think he was see they can go for it in south carolina and nevada. jeb bush would do better. the question is how much better. he has worked very, very hard, so i think the question will be who is second. on the democratic side, he is very strong here. it is a question of if she can forget his margin. if she can bring it down to single digits, that is a huge victory. he is very strong here. >> one of the organizers of politics and eggs. >> come back. >> we well. thank you. -- we will. thank you. >> thank you.
>> our road to the white house coverage continues from new hampshire with republican presidential candidate carly fiorina holding a town hall meeting live at 10:00 a.m. eastern. democratic presidential candidate hillary clinton speaking at a get out the vote rally import portsmouth at 7:15 p.m. eastern. like coverage here today on c-span. >> republican presidential candidate jim gilmore, the former governor of virginia, took part in a campaign event at veterans park in manchester. , new hampshire. this is about 45 minutes. our group later. lawyers make me say our group does not endorse candidates. i have to throw that out. my long-termto see
friend governor jim gilmore, presidential candidate, was able to make the trip. i have to give you one quick story that summarizes jim gilm ore. when he was running a surprise campaign for attorney general where no one gave him the chance, i used to take them up -- pick him up in a geo metro. i drove home to several events. 100 or 50 people. and i got to one of then and only two people showed up. my gosh. mr. gilmore, i'm so sorry. a couple of these key people called. 100 people -- because of the weather and people getting back late to work. jim gilmore said, if 300 people talked them about my candidacy, this event was a success. this conversation going. i want you to contrast that tossroots -out look
campaigns now where you have completely separate entities running campaigns that do not talk to candidates. i'm thrilled that governor gilmore pulled that upset. when on to be the governor for virginia. following -- even though i have not been part of his campaigns. thank you for making the trip to the presidential state, governor gilmore. [applause] gov. gilmore: good afternoon. it is a wonderful pleasure to be here to speak to this organization, the new hampshire rebellion. i understand exactly what your goals are and actually i may h ave a conversation with you about your goals and what we
need to be talking about. opportunityiate the as a candidate for president to be able to address you here today. most of you i think know who i am. i am the former governor of the state of virginia. i also had been elected prosecutor in my home community. i was the attorney general of virginia. the national commission on terrorism and homeland security for the united states. and warned of the dangers of potential terrorist attacks in this country. i was the governor during the 9/11 attack and said the became a war governor when the pentagon was attacked. i had to deal with those kinds of issues. i have the experience of being a united states army veteran. thishe only veteran in race for united states president. can you imagine for a moment someone trying to become the commander-in-chief of the united states with no experience in
national security, no experience in foreign policy and never having served in the military? i can't. why i'mone more reason offering myself as a candidate for president of the united states. i'm going to talk to you about your issue and i'm going to give you some additional ideas about bes issue, but let me also really clear with you about what i am talking about on the campaign trail. nationaltalking about security because i have the unique experience as the only steeped in a person national security and foreign-policy issues to address the challenges we are facing from russia, china, north korea, from iran. international guerrilla war we are engaged in from radical islamists. these are the challenges we have to face that i understand. i know what we need to do. i know we need to rebuild the military. i know we need to enhance our intelligence organizations. and i know we need to leave -- ideas tothe war of
make it clear we will prevail with our values in the 21st century. i'm talking about veterans andes in new hampshire across the united states because as the only veteran in the race, i am deeply concerned about the way our veterans are treated. and i will you if i become the president, i know what i'm going to do. we are going to deal with the challenges we are facing of disrespect for veterans, of falsification of records, of the i want to make sure the veterans have the same standard of care that anybody else does and america. i want to make sure that specific problems and challenges of veterans are address like post-traumatic stress disorder and the danger of suicide and the battlefield types of injuries we have seen in the middle east. i want to make sure there is a repeal process for veterans who today tell me they didn't -- appealsave a good process. finally, second amendment
rights. this is an organization at new hampshire rebellion is doing with the issue of american liberty and the fear of the power and big money that might supersede american liberty. that is one reason why i accepted this invitation to speak today. i believe in second amendment rights. i believe in the right of people to keep and bear arms under the constitution. the cousin to find exactly what we mean by the individual and the repository -- because it defines what we mean by the trust we put in people to have the empowerment of a firearm and not have that taken away by the state. those are the issues i have been focusing on. let me focus on what you are talking about for just a moment because i think it is labeled -- it is related. this organization is worried about big money and big donors controlling the political process. that is what i am hearing. i heart it all the time. billionaires are going to control the political process. i understand that. i hear that all the time, by the
way, from people in the other party, the democrats, hillary clinton is trying to mimic bernie sanders and bernie sanders is the avowed socialist is caught up in this old last idea ofidea of, marxist the class society in the class of billionaires is going to control everything. but i think that it is a real serious problem as to whether this country is in fact becoming a class society. i remember when i got ready to run for president i knew the demands that we placed -- would financially inme the challenges we would see of trying to pay for the presidential candidacy nationwide. i visited some of the same people you are concerned about. i talked to them and i said, i ought to be the president of the united states and these are the ideas i'm going to put forward. and i talked to a number of the people who were in fact billionaires who intended to pick a candidate. they were slow to pick a
candidate. i wonder what they were waiting for, what they intended to extract from the candidates before they had an opportunity to support them financially. i never got that support. i never got that financial theport or even any of demands that were placed upon me, but some of them have supported other people in this race right now. let me ask you all a question -- i will as this question right now. your concern is about individual candidates who are going to be supported by multimillionaires they are going to extract commitments and promises from them that is contrary to the national interest. did i just state what the new hampshire rebellion is all about? i think i did. ok. well, what does that mean? ok for a person of modest means to get the support of a person financially. ok. well, what does that mean when
we are dealing with somebody like donald trump? is it ok for him to run? he does not need a billionaire because he is a billionaire. he says he is a billionaire. and he can spend his own money. you've seen all those free airplanes with his name on a side. somebody is paying for that -- he's paying for that. what is the difference between a person running for office who gets the billionaire support and a billionaire? what is it that the new hampshire rebellion is saying? are you saying, these are questions i have before i agreed have theere i don't answer to. it is not ok for the citizen to run with no inner support but it is ok for a billionaire to run? right? don't knowi just the answer to that. i know this. i know the political system and the finance of campaigns today is really screwed up. i know that. [applause] we got that right.
we are all together on this, because of the citizens united said, i think properly, that free speech and money are the same thing. that is what they said in citizens united. we left inirdly restrictions on donations to campaign contributions and organizations, which means that today that no citizen can contribute more than under federal limits. but you can contribute anything to super pacs, even corporations can to submit money to super pacs in any amount they want to. veryso you have this strange situation that under the citizens united ruling, corporations and individuals and so one can contribute any amount of money under the freedom of speech they choose to to a super pac. the super pac can't talk to the candidate. isn't that strange>?
? a candidate was to offer ideas and the super pac was to support his ideas and they cannot communicate. isn't that odd? so that means that all the rest of the citizens read -- the citizenry can contribute to it a super pac. you can see who contributes. but the candidate does not have freedom of speech. the candidate does not have freedom of speech. because his contributors can only contribute $2700. the billionaire can contribute $1 million to the super pac. the super pac has freedom of speech and the candidate does not. i'm going to repeat that. in america today for federal elections, the candidate for public office does not have freedom of each. speech, because he does a have the money to promote his ideas. i'ts unsuitable and it is wrong
and it cannot work. it calls out for for reform. am going to talk to you about bigger issue and then i will stop and answer any questions you might have. will stop atmise i the bigger issue is what i'm getting ready to talk about. america is not the same that it long time ago when we had the declaration of independence, the constitution, the first amendment, freedom of speech, and people got ideas from town meetings like we see in new hampshire and they get t heir information from being part of a political party. that is not really what is going on anymore. america today is a society that is very, very controlled. it's controlled and lots of different ways. our economic freedom is controlled. it's controlled by the tax structure right now that is preventing the free enterprise system for working. eneursreventing entrepr
from having the freedom to start businesses and get people employed because of the high tax system, because of burdens in on 8 years that a been put business people in this country. and there is a lack of freedom to exercise the american value of wealth acquisition because of the law impinging on people, which bernie sanders would double down every day in every way if he could. he tells you he is a socialist. i believe him. if you about the role politics? how about getting on the ballot? do you think a person who runs for president of the united states who is a former government, former senator, or sitting senator or sitting files and begins to pursue his nomination on to have access to the ballots in this country? we don't. we don't have access to the
ballots in this country. i'll give you an example. maryland and michigan called me up and said they would not include me on their ballots encause they said i had not be recognized by the national media as a candidate. so, where's the power here? the power here was the state actually bequeathed the authority for the voters to be able to vote for somebody on the ballot based upon the idea of some producer in the back room someplace at one of the cable or network shows that we do not even know. you call that freedom in the united states of america? >> no. gov. gilmore: i don't. and finally, i want to come back to this theme of the mass media today. information to the citizens of the united states today is given media, by the mass the people on the cable shows, the people invited onto, i don't know, pick one.
morning joe. have you been watching it lately? i watch it all the time to find out what the state of affairs in his spirit how many times do think donald trump has been on morning joe? almost every morning. how about chris christie? he's on all the time on morning joe. why is this? why is that those two candidates would be featured so quickly on the television show? selected that candidates of the mass media are given the opportunity to appear on television shows? i'm going to give you an id you had not thought about -- the appearance on these mass media television shows are campaign contributions. the appearances are campaign contributions. and they are worth money. in politics. you are concerned about billionaires giving money to a candidate and sponsoring a candidate. i would suggest you that the mass media, the corporate mass
media in america today that is in complete control of communications, is donating and sponsoring candidates. that's what's going on. as a matter of fact, don't listen to me. donald trump said so himself. the other day he taunted people. he taunted his opponents, taunted people in the community, taunted the mass media said, i do not have to spend any amount of money to run for president. i do not have to spend anything on broadcast or advertising because i get it for free. so, let me give you an idea where jim gilmore reform. have come to understand this as a candidate for president of the united states. i think it is an impingement on american freedom because it controls the mines and ideas and publicity in communications and information -- the minds and communications and information that goes to the american people. they may wrap themselves in the first amendment. but they may say they are at liberty to say or do anything they want to do because they are
the mass media. that is what they may say. you remember in the law there is a difference between what you say and how you behave. the people in the law they tell you you cannot stand up in a crowded theater and yell fire. why is that? it's not we are trying to control what a person says. it is what we are. trying to control what a person does what's going on today is that the mass media people in their conduct have adopted candidates and are sponsoring them, and i want to know why. i want to know why. [applause] gov. gilmore: you in this organization believe in transparency of it you think the public ought to know. i'm with you. i think the public ought to know. i think we ought to know. if i become the president of the united states, the federal communications and i are going
to have a serious conversation about what has happened in america today with the emergence of the mass media that is in control of the ideas of this country. we are going to have a conversation about how many times a candidate appears on a show and how many times a candidate doesn't. then we are going to put a price on those contributions. 20a person gets 15 or minutes which i have seen on a television station, not as a news broadcast -- they are not reporting the news -- they are thatng a forum for candidate, that is worth money. just as much as your billionaire who is sponsoring somebody who then has to buy television time. and i'm telling you right now we are going to do reform. thee going to say that public is entitled to know exactly how many dollars worth of value of free tv time they are giving to the candidates of their selection. [applause] then, ladies and
gentlemen, we are going to find out why some candidates are givnen those credentials and that money donation in kind to give them the promotion. you think about the implications of what i am saying. the republican national committee outsourced the nomination to the networks. they said that they were going to put people on a debate stage depending upon what kind of national polymers they got. how do -- national poll numbers they got. how do you get national poll numbers? you have got to be on the stage. it's all rigged. bernie sanders is right about that. i believe you are trying to do something about it. i congratulate you for introducing this topic into the public forum. but make no mistake about the reality of money and politics.
it is the equivalency of freedom but just understand what the governments and states and the mass media and everything are doing to control the discourse and the politics in this country. you know what it costs be on the ballot in south carolina? we have a primary system where you go first in new hampshire and you talk to the people here one-on-one the best way you can, that you had better have a ground game. have you heard that? you better have a ground game in iowa if you are going to proceed in new hampshire. did you hear that? we chose not to participate in iowa. not because we do not love the people. i know them pretty well. to participate in their caucus, you have to hire 30 field people at least organize people across the country and that costs money. and the people out there that have the millionaire supporting them can hire those people and do those things. 'td the people who don't can
but you. can stillcome to new hampshire and still participate in this state. if you want to go to south carolina and communicate to the people you are a real candidate, you had better be on the ballot on the second primary state which is south carolina. and you know what it costs to get on the ballot in south carolina? $40,000. $40,000. so, you're concerned about whether or not there is access to the political system, the ability to do that, but -yet these- its costs money to be able to participate. so what is your goal? your goalow what is. maybe your goal is complete freedom to run for office, which means anybody can raise anything they want to at any amount in these federal regulations and limits over candidates must be eliminated in order to give complete freedom. you're downe there
between this artificial strange tax system we have god and the -- we have got. break this down and create complete freedom. or maybe you would like to do the other way around. maybe you would like to have public financing of campaigns. yeah. freedom of any kind. because at that point the state decides how much speech you have, how much liberty you have, the level of ideas you can present, what the amount is in the name of the equality of the candidates. it sure would help me in this en thatlar year, but th is a system where the politicians and the public to not have any freedom. muchtate decide how freedom and how much ideas and promotion there will be. ideaaer myself the t
that there should be accountability in the mass media. we should know what they are contribute in, what the dollar value of it is and if they are favoring one candidate or another, the public needs to know how much they are in dollar amount, and then we need to have a law that says if that is going on, we must prohibit those candidates or those campaigns from giving any money whatsoever to the networks without complete transparency and reporting. thatu do that, then at point you bring the accountability of our free society into play. those are my ideas. i spent some time thinking about this. the basis of an actual candidate, real candidate for president. i wanted to give you the benefit of my thinking on this. i want to congratulate you for bringing this discourse forward and these ideas forward. ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for the chance to be here with you today. >> thank you, sir. [applause] if there is time
for questions and answers, i would like to do it. >> peter, are we live? testing, ok. if i could pose the first question, sir. thank you so much for coming to the new hampshire rebellion confession -- convention. you asked a couple times what reforms we call for. i wanted to put one to you that professor richard -- just described in his new book, taxation only with representation. system of small donor driven campaign financing where we the people get to direct the first 50 or 100 our choice. making everyone other than minimum of taxes giving everyone of us a chance to help support
-- in a sense to vote with the dollars. a candidate whose ideas appealed was whether not they have billions of their own, the ability to run without needing billionaire support. i wondered your thoughts on a bill like that? jim gilmore: we probably don't know enough to know what that would work. let me give you the benefit of my experience. my experiences a lot of people, regular people won't donate. tax break they won't donate. by the way, you may now that in today's america if you contribute a political campaign it is not tax-deductible. right? it is not tax-deductible. what that means is if people are having problems with that and making those kinds of donations. here is the answer -- i think an organization like this -- frankly our educational system needs to begin to talk to the american people about their duties as citizens and their
responsibilities as citizens. if we can get into the society's that every citizen has a duty to be jimmy to the political process, there may be summit like that could work. we don't have that system today. we don't have that culture. to the contrary, people are disenchanted with politics. they're frustrated with politics. many people come with a don't want anything to do with politics or politicians. they hate politicians, they hate the democracy which i think it's a disturbing problem here in the country today. >> why do you think that is so? 9 why do i think that is so? i believe it is so because of the 20th century we altered the country. a countrye live in governed by the declaration of independence and the notion of people having rights that are given from god and not from the state.
once world war i was kicking in italy began to put in an income tax, at that point to begin to control people. it still does to this day. after the great depression came and there was a sense that we have lost all control of everything. there was a sense of frustration with everything was out of control and the new deal came in. became a regulatory society that began to govern people's conduct. people began come as a result, to become dissociated from their own democracy. if i become the president, over the eight years that i would i thinkbe the president we need to start new dialogue with the american people about not being controlled a regulation, not taxed to death. not dominated by big power to the gross media. how do we live again as free citizens, a man in a
tri-cornered hat? that is a challenge lifted face going forward. >> over here. is notuestion for you just only media corporations influencing politics but also the defense industry. my question for you is what steps will you take to end crony capitalism and make sure policies are ship for the public good and not by defense contractors or corporations? [applause] jim gilmore: in the interest of full disclosure i serve on the board of directors of a defense contractor. , lobbying is control. it should be controlled, we should have more disclosure. i think we have to have better scrutiny about how lobbying actually influences legislation. we are seeing a
disassociation of the american people from their elected representatives because there is a suspicion and a fear that it is crony capitalism and lobbying. full disclosure, it seems to me this would be an pressriate place for the to actually begin to probe and get information out there to the community so that the public can do what is in fact going on. we don't savory much -- don't see very much of that. i believe that the defense contractors offer services that are essential in a world in which we are basically in a guerrilla international war. the ability to oversee that and decide that while it is done through some regulatory bodies in fact the best thing to do would be to have the citizens have the maximum possible information. sometimes we don't see that the mass media today. i hope that is a response, i don't have a great depository answer.
>> another question. jim gilmore: james madison. a virginian, i might add. >> james madison the fourth president of united states it would be a great honor to have another virginian in the in the of fairfax,resident virginia for a number of years. the commonwealth is close to my heart. fundamentally, i believe what everyone here is talking about -- the whole reason we are here is because we want fundamental democracy. we want the will of the people to be done. it is not happening. in so many different fashions we look around and the say this is what the people clearly want and the government does something else. i work on taxes, i can tell you a third 20imately
half of the total tax expenditures are tax deduction for our wealthiest individuals and biggest corporations. in essence, we, the common people, already pay for free tuition for universities. it already pay for universal health care. we already pay to eliminate student debt. all of these things we pay for but we don't get it because the government now gives that money away to our richest citizens and greatest corporations. i am sure you know, ge pays no taxes on their profits. of course, that means we're paying them instead. my reason for joining the new hampshire rebellion is because i want the will of the people to be done. the number one place i always see it is money, money, money, taxes, taxes, taxes. i want to get my tax money to do what i want to do. [applause]
spoken like a true virginian. thank you very much. look, wed gentlemen, have a tax system right now that is in place that is very problematic. tax fored the income the purpose of financing the government. itewhere in the 20th century stopped being for the purpose of financing the government. it started being for the purpose of controlling the behavior of people. what is tax-deductible, what is not? what is encouraged in investment come what is not? what money is going to be taxed, what is not? do you think you will do get profits offshore because they're trying to be cheats? they do it because of the highest corporate tax rate in the world. we just do. as a result, if you are dealing on a global economy where american companies pay 40% and a
company in the middle east is paying 15% you can't compete. you can't offer a reasonable price for your product under those conditions. our companies pay an average of 11%. [indiscernible] i am willing to examine your statistics. i can only give you the benefit of my own experience. oferved on a corporate board a company that had to go buy an overseas company to find a way to compete. that is a reality that i saw. the bottom line is this -- we need to have a corporate tax structure and we need to know what it is intended to do. it is to stop financing the government and stockman at letting people. friendly, control and the economy. i think that is what is going on.
i talked to you whatever started i will give you an answer to this -- when i first started i told you that i was interested in handling the international crisis to keep america safe. deal with the betterment issues as the only veteran in the race and to support second amendment rights as a principle of individual liberty. item, that isrth the economy of this country. i believe that we have to have a growing economy to address these issues. it means that to supercharge the free enterprise system. in order to get more investment, better jobs, better opportunities, and better growth of companies. i think this organization thinks of company's as the enemy -- some are, but the fact is they are a commercial activity and that is what has always made america great. right now we have a government that is trying to stop that.
we also have a political party that has dedicated itself to being an enemy for the free enterprise system. when i was an intelligent agent serving overseas, our adversaries with the russians. they report in the idea that socialism worldwide was the answer. that was absolutely ridiculous. never in my wildest dreams that i think that in this particular year i would be running for president against a political party that would profess themselves as a socialist party. i never would've thought that. >> question in the back. >> governor, i am from minnesota. i would be thrilled to have you come out for our caucuses in minnesota. as a taxpayer,-- when i spend so much money to i am concerned about how it is being used. i spent two and a half years as an ethics lawyer for president bush in the white house.
i saw how government works. i saw increase of government spending when we had republicans in control of both houses and the white house. as a taxpayerthat i have a right, i should have a right to help choose that government. why shouldn't i get that? a candidate of my choice, so i can have a role in how that money is spent. or choosing the people who will decide how it is spent. for is what i am proposing the taxation only with representation act. i believe a copy of my book here with a moderator for you. jim gilmore: very good -- [applause] jim gilmore: thank you for the invitation to come to minnesota. hopefully there isn't a barrier that would prevent me. my $200 if ive you had it. appreciate that,
is that the price of entry in minnesota? [laughter] jim gilmore: if it is, we're on our way. >> i wish i was, the problem is you have to come out that other donald trump if you write of his plane. jim gilmore: i want to thank and you.ison sounds mimic the tea party is alive and well in this organization. it is people that are expressing they and concern because don't feel like a democracy is working. i tried to express what i think some of the underlying challenges are as a candidate. first of all, let me be clear, i think it is a great idea if people in this country wants to donate any amount of money and deduct it. that should be done to further the interest of citizen participation in the political process. i think they ought to be deductible. if that is what your proposal is
i think that would be moving in the right direction. i think that would be right. as long asourself -- the big media is charging the money they're charging for communications, which by the ways on our airwaves. the airwaves of this country are owned by the public, not by the media. the media has licenses. i can tell you right now when you take a major company that has been bequeathed the power to decide who is going to be able to talk to the public and new isn't through debates and a political party that decided to bequeathed that and decided who would be able to participate in debate or not. then that organization controls all of that that is a problem in this country today. right now.elling you people should not have licenses to broadcast over the airwaves of this country when they discriminate against legitimate candidates for president.
>> here, here. [laughter] jim gilmore: -- [applause] joan gilmore'sen president we will look of a license is being abused by the big media in this country. >> question right here. >> i will ask the question. >> this part is from -- my name is emily and i'm representing independent media from boston. regarding -- on your side you say you support treatment for veterans with ptsd. i'm wondering -- you also mention that you are for involuntary institutionalization for people who have mental illnesses. until they are "safe" for society. i'm wondering, what would you -- would you be doing to apply the
two veterans who have ptsd? i appreciate that question, i have about of experience with the as governor from virginia i worked hard to get more mental health services taken down into the communities. that is where they could be closer to their families and their friends and they can get that kind of community support. not so that people could be institutionalized that they could be freer. i favor that. as for -- you asked two is whats together, ptsd many of our veterans are experiencing. what i was trying -- what i am communicating -- i care very much about the specific problems that veterans are experiencing and the families are experiencing. if there is danger, i think we have an obligation to address that and be aware of that as we go along. that i continued
to address is the mental health issues and where we are. whatis the answer -- people want to do today is to remove firearms from the community. they just don't believe that we can have a safe society as long as the public is entitled to exercise their firearm rights under the second amendment. people on the left just don't believe that. we believe that americans should be disempowered as citizens and should not have that right which was recognized by the bill of rights. so, it doesn't work. silly thing to say. anyone will commit these kinds of crimes -- they will get their hands on a firearm. or in boston a pipe bomb, or in jerusalem a kitchen knife or stick or stone. human nature of people that has to be a giraffe particularly worry -- a jihadist -- addressed when it comes to a
particular worry. address the concerns that are being raised we have to be more to the concerns of people that are unstable. i am thinking what this tragedy in my own state but it was an attack by a person there. we have an obligation as it is i didn't recognize number friends and relatives and children and daughters become dangers. i think we go and obligation to them because we don't want them to die or to kill. we have an obligation to our fellow citizens to try to be alive to this. i don't believe you take everybody that has a problem and put them into an institution. i think that as a community best to be more alive to these dangers to prevent these problems and stop people from the left by this empowering the people of the united states under the bill of rights.
mr. madison. >> one has question. i appreciate a lot of the things you said and i believe in a lot of the things you said. i think you really mischaracterized the view of the gun issues. i don't have any evidence to support that except my left-leaning friends who are not trying to get guns out of the hands of average people. we simply want to control the distribution of guns that have no background checks associated with the people buying them at gun shows and don't think people semi automatic weapons to do hunting. i think most of my friends agree that we should be able to have .uns our historical protection said we should have them to prevent ourselves from being overrun by our own government. i think he really missed it on that point. most my friends
aren't trying to take guns out of the hands of people. we want to make sure that the background checks are done appropriately and that people can't buy guns without registering them so that we know who has got what. [applause] jim gilmore: thank you. 75% of my opinion of people on the left wing i think. i appreciate your goodwill and your good wishes. the fact of the matter is these rights are independently exercise by the american people. andr right our god-given they don't come from the state. -- second point is that there are background checks being done across this country. firearms people are quite specific about it. the evidence is that if a person is either unstable or other criminal bent it will have an opportunity to get their hands on a lethal insurance including a firearm.
-- instrument including a firearm. that hasn't been stopping. that makes a person like me who stands for the rights of people on the bill of rights suspicious. when the president says we will have to eliminate all of this, we see all these terrible things that are highlighted, we rational people know that you can't. that makes you really wonder what it is that really is at work here. i will tell you now i believe the culture is an attempt being made to change the culture of this country to eliminate firearms from the body politic. i will not do it. stand for the right to people under the second amendment. for that matter, all 10 of the amendments under the bill of rights. >> thank you so much, governor. would you just take a picture with james madison. the two virginians.
we like to invite you this is a to a 19,000 names of citizens around the country who signed onto this agenda to fight the big-money politics. sureilmore: i want to be this is james madison and not aaron burr, you're sure about that? >> i am quite sure about that. he has earned his stripes marching across new hampshire. thank you so much for coming. with a new hampshire rebellion had to raise these last few days of the new hampshire primary. jim gilmore: i will use this. xation onlybook "ta without representation.:" jim gilmore: thank you for the invitation. [applause]
tough questions. it's not just place where there is a scripted speech. hampshire takes this really seriously. this is my 30th town hall meeting. our 115th town hall meeting. >> hillary clinton and bernie sanders for speakers at the 2016 hundred club celebration in hampshire. the state holds its first of the nation primary next tuesday. this portion is just over two hours.
newn by thanking the great hampshire democratic party for all the working families in this state. lord to every person in this room -- a word to every person in this room in regards of who you are supporting in this process. i want to congratulate all people here for doing what is a difficult thing to do. to spend considerable amounts of time and energy, trying to make this country better place in which to live and work. thank you all. [applause]
i also want to thank the many unions and organizations, too many to name, for their support. and i mentioned, among many others, the communication workers of america, the united american postal workers union, and the new hampshire state employees association. [applause] i want to thank moveon.org for , democracy for america, and many other grassroots organizations.
our campaign has had a great deal of energy and enthusiasm, and i think -- i think the reasons are pretty obvious. we are talking about the issues that working families and the middle class are concerned about. we are talking about ending a corrupt campaign finance system. [applause] [cheering] american democracy is not about wall street and billionaires buying elections. american democracy is about one person, one vote.
that is what new england is about. [applause] so, here is a promise i make to every person in this arena. if elected president, no nominee of mine to the supreme court will get that position unless he or she is very clear. they will vote to overturn citizens united. [applause] [cheering] >> bernie, bernie! sen. sanders: and we will address the rigged economy that so many people are suffering
under right now. [applause] it is not acceptable to me that, at the same time we have the highest rate of childhood poverty of any major country on earth, we also have more income and wealth inequality then any other major country on earth. [applause] so, i say to the billionaire class, we are going to create an economy that works for working families. not just the people on top. [applause]
if elected president, we are going to raise the minimum wage to a living wage -- $15 an hour. [applause] we are going to end the disgrace of women making $.79 on the dollar, compared to men. [applause] and we will have pay equity for women workers in this country. [applause] we are going to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure, and create millions of decent-paying jobs. [applause]
we are going to reform our trade -- our disastrous trade system. and we are going to tell corporate america, start investing in this country, not just in china. [applause] [cheering] and in the year 2016, we are going to say that public colleges and universities should be tuition-free. [applause] i want every child in this country, kids who grow up in families like mine, where my mom
and dad never went to college, i want those kids in manchester, new hampshire and burlington, vermont to understand -- to understand that if they do their schoolwork seriously, if they do their homework, and if they are serious students, yes, they will be able to get a college education. regardless of the income of their families. [applause] [cheering] and, and to all of those people in our country, some young and some not so young, people who are now being crushed by outrageously high levels of student debt, relief is on the way!
new hampshire, and of america , many of whom are trying to get by on $11,000, $12,000, $13,000 of social security, i understand, you understand people cannot get by on $11,000 of social security a year. now, my republican colleagues, they say we should cut social security. [booing] we say we should expand social security benefits. [applause] [cheering] and we are going to do that by lifting the cap on taxable income. [applause]
and to the large, multi-national corporations, who continue to believe that it is ok for them to put their billions of dollars in profits in the cayman islands and in bermuda and and other tax havens, we have news for you. [cheering] you are going to start paying your fair share of taxes. [cheering] [applause] and so, the ceos on wall street, the people whose greed and recklessness and illegal
behavior drove this economy into the worst recession since the 1930's, who were bailed out by the middle class of this country, who were bailed out because the banks were too big to fail -- but today, are in many cases bigger than when we bailed them out -- we will establish a 21st century glass-steagall. [applause] and when six major banks have assets of almost 60% of the gdp of this country, yes, we are going to break them up. [applause] [cheering]
and to the pharmaceutical industry, which charges us the highest prices in the world for the medicine we need, who have created a situation in which 1 out of 5 americans are unable to buy the medicine their doctors prescribe, we say to them, your days of raising prices off the charts are over. [applause] [cheering]
and to the 11 million people in our country who are undocumented, who are living in the shadows, who are fearful about being deported, we say we share your pain, and we are going to pass comprehensive immigration reform. [applause] and when this country shamefully, shamefully has more people in jail than any other country on earth, we say there will be real criminal justice reform.
[applause] [cheering] we are going to invest in education and jobs for our kids, not jails and incarceration. [applause] and when we talk about criminal justice reform, we say that we are tired of seeing unarmed people shot down by police. [applause] what we are saying is that a police officer who breaks the law, like any other public official, must be held
accountable. [applause] that we must demilitarize local police departments. [applause] and that we must make police departments all across this country look like the diversity of the communities they serve. [applause] now, i have been criticized because i believe that all of our people in this great country are entitled to health care. [applause] so, let me be, let me be as
clear as i can. i confess, i believe that health care is a right of all people, not a privilege. [applause] [cheering] >> bernie, bernie! sen. sanders: i believe that the affordable care act, which my committee -- the committee i am on -- helped to write, did some extraordinary good things. we should be proud of that. but i believe we can go further. and i believe that we should move toward a medicare for all, single-payer program. [applause]
now, what leadership is about, it is not just swimming with the current. it is not just coming aboard ideas when there is majority support for those ideas. [applause] way back before it was fashionable, in the early 1990's, congressman bernie sanders opposed nafta and other trade agreements. [applause] i want corporate america to invest in this country, create
jobs in this country, not just in china. [applause] in 1996, when it was not popular, i voted against the so-called defense of marriage act. [applause] that was not a popular vote, at that time. but i believe then, and i believe now, that people have a right to love whomever they want, regardless of their gender. [applause]
in late 1990's, when all kinds of people in this country, republicans and yes, some democrats, said we should deregulate wall street, what a great idea it would be if commercial banks and investment banks and insurance companies could merge. i did not think it was such a good idea. i helped lead the opposition to deregulation. [applause] in 2002, the most important debate in recent history on foreign policy, george w. bush, took place. george w. bush, dick cheney --
[booing] donald rumsfeld, they said -- [booing] they said it was a good idea to invade iraq. [booing] i listened very carefully to what they said. i did not believe them. i not only voted against that war, i helped lead the opposition to that war. [applause] [cheering] >> bernie, bernie, bernie, bernie! sen. sanders: leadership -- leadership is about standing up and being counted when the times are rough, even when you are in a minority situation.
[applause] but leadership is also producing the goods, passing legislation that impacts the people of new hampshire, vermont, and america. [applause] and i am very proud that a few years ago, as chairman of the veterans committee, i helped pass the most comprehensive veterans health care legislation passed in the modern history of this country. [applause] [cheering] that legislation not only helped millions of veterans all over this country get better access to v.a. health care, it was a
particular benefit to the veterans of the state of new hampshire. [applause] because we put some special language in that bill to benefit new hampshire veterans. and i am, i am proud that as part of the affordable care act, we got $12 billion in it to expand community health centers in new hampshire, and in vermont, and all over this country. [applause] i am proud we passed one of the most significant pieces of environmental legislation, putting billions of dollars to help communities become more energy-efficient and move to sustainable energy. [applause]
let me conclude by saying this. no president, not bernie sanders or anybody else, can bring about the changes that the middle class and working families of this country desperately need. and the reason for that is that the powers that be, wall street, corporate america, the corporate media, the koch brothers, the large campaign donors, are so powerful -- so powerful -- that the only way we create the change that we need is through a political revolution. [applause] [cheering]
and that means, that means, that means that millions and millions of people throughout our country, including many who have given up on the political process, many who think their vote, their voice no longer matters, those people have got to reengage politically. working people, low-income people, young people. and with a loud voice, a loud voice -- [cheering] [applause]
and with a very loud voice, heard on tuesday in new hampshire and heard all over this country, the voice which says that this government of ours, fought and offended by so -- defended by so many men and women prepared to put their lives on the line, this government of ours belongs to all of us. not a bunch of wealthy campaign contributors. thank you all very much. [applause] [cheering] ♪
there's a starman waiting in the sky he'd like to come and meet us but he thinks he'd blow our minds there's a starman waiting in the sky he's told us not to blow it cause he knows it's all worthwhile he told me let the children lose it let the children use it let all the children boogie ♪ >> the governor announced her
decision to run for senate. >> we spoke to the governor. have you talked to her? >> she says she will take the bipartisan approach. >> she wants to take her experience to the senate. >> the democratic governor taking on a republican senator. >> i believe we can do better. the granite state deserves a senator who leads like it. >> please welcome, governor maggie hassan.
♪ >> good evening. thank you, new hampshire democrats. [applause] before i begin, i do want to take a moment to remember our dear friend marty gross. marty dedicated his life to helping people from all walks of life. he exemplified the spirit of service and collective problem solvers that distinguishes us as a state. he will be deeply missed. [applause]
i want to thank our chairman, ray buckley and the hard-working nhdp staff. as the eyes of our nation turn towards new hampshire this week, this event, with such a huge turnout, reflects the great pride we take in our critical role in the democratic process. i would like to thank the governors for always fighting to ensure the voices of our state are heard in washington. and wasn't it great to see the great governor john lynch and susan here tonight? thank you from the bottom of my heart for everything you have done for our state.
and i would like to recognize all of my great partners in the statehouse. our democratic representatives, our senators, and executive counselors. thank you for your continued dedication to our communities and state. while i am sure he is getting well-deserved rest right now, i want to acknowledge governor martin o'malley, and thank him for his strong record of public service, and his deep commitment to our country. [applause] i also want to thank senator sanders for his service in the united states senate, and for engaging in new hampshire's first in the nation primary process. it is always a great pleasure to welcome back to new hampshire,
my friend, secretary hillary clinton. [applause] hillary's strong record of leadership has proven that she is the right person to lead our country, and get things done. and that is why i am so proud to support her for president of the united states. [applause] and most of all, thank you, new hampshire democrats. everyone here tonight is united in a common purpose. to keep new hampshire moving in the right direction. thanks to each of you in this room, and many more throughout the state, we are making progress to build a stronger,
more innovative new hampshire, where education and businesses drive job creation. working across party lines we passed two fiscally responsible, balanced budgets that invest in critical, economic priorities. we froze tuitions at our state universities for the first time in 25 years. and we lowered it at our community colleges. [applause] more than 46,000 hard-working granite stators now have the health and economic security that comes with quality health coverage because we expanded medicaid. [applause] we are providing a strong and comprehensive approach to the substance abuse epidemic. we are fixing roads and bridges across the state, and finishing the expansion of i-93. we are seeing the progress all across the state.
our unemployment rate continues to fall, and is now 3.1%, which is the fourth lowest in the country, and the lowest level in nearly 15 years. [applause] and for the third year in a row, new hampshire was ranked as the strongest state in the union based on more than a dozen measures of our economy, the safety of our communities, and our quality of life. [applause] we made progress for our people, and our businesses by solving problems and bringing people together to get things done for hard-working families. it is long past time for washington to take the same approach. [applause]
the people of new hampshire work together to solve problems every day in their own lives, and they expect their elected representatives to do the same. that is why it is so frustrating to see what is happening in washington, and why it is time for us all to stand together right now and say, enough. enough to washington special interests that prey on our senior's hard-earned social security and medicare benefits, while claiming special tax breaks for themselves. enough to politicians restricting a woman's right to make her own health care decision. [applause] and enough to our junior senator who puts corporate special interests ahead of new hampshire. [applause]
despite her effort to rewrite history with expensive tv ads and sham legislation, we know kelly ayotte's real washington record. in washington, she has voted with the koch brothers nearly 90% of the time. she has repeatedly voted for deep cuts in pell grants that would make college more expensive for new hampshire students, while also voting against allowing young people being able to refinance their student loans. she voted to turn medicare into a voucher program, while opposing efforts to protect social security from benefit cuts. when it comes to our environment, she has repeatedly sided with the koch brothers while our beautiful natural resources and places pay the price. she has fought to protect tax breaks for big oil.
and just recently she was once again the only new england senator to oppose critical clean water protections. she voted against the bipartisan bill to expand background checks for gun purchases. she even opposes closing the loophole that allows known and suspected terrorists to buy guns and explosives. she has voted repeatedly to defund planned parenthood, and supports allowing employers to deny women coverage for birth control and preventive care. and she has said, these are her words, that she certainly believes that roe v wade should be overturned. [boos] i am ready to change that.
[applause] as your senator -- as your senator, i will work across party lines to support job greeting businesses and expand economic opportunity. i will fight to make college more affordable, and reduce the burden of student loan debt. when it comes to our nation's defense -- we must defeat isis and make our country even stronger in the eyes of our enemies and allies working with the international community to keep us safe, while ensuring that we use our military might as a last resort. and i will always, always stand up for a woman's right to make her own health care decisions. [applause] but i need your help.
i cannot do this alone. with your help i will be a senator who fights back against the koch brothers, special interest agenda. with your help i will be a senator who knows that new hampshire families and small businesses come first, and leads like it. and with your help, new hampshire will finally, finally have two senators who always put new hampshire first. together we can keep new hampshire moving in the right direction. thank you all so much for everything you do. onward to victory. let's move forward. [applause] ♪
>> tonight, the people of new hampshire chose to put new hampshire first. >> making a difference for new hampshire. helping small businesses grow. she is now the ranking member of the senate committee for small business. >> her small business jobs act cut our taxes. >> bringing health care to our veterans.
getting veterans centers. >> this is something people promised for years, but she delivered. >> real stories, real results. helping seniors facing foreclosure. taking on big banks, so that people can keep their homes. expanding health care for our kids and families. protecting every woman's reproductive rights. a leader in washington. >> we can count on her. >> she will fight for the people of new hampshire. >> gaining passage in bipartisan legislation to lower energy costs. working to lower interest rates on with student loans, to make college more affordable. the only woman in the nation to serve as governor and united states senator. putting new hampshire first. >> i am so proud to once again be able to represent the people of new hampshire and the united states senate.
[applause] ♪ >> please welcome, senator jeanne shaheen. [applause] ♪ better than all the rest better than anyone anyone i ever met ♪ senator jeanne shaheen: thank you. thank you. hello, new hampshire democrats. [applause] what a great turnout. you are not tired, are you? all right. i want to thank ray buckley and the great team at the new hampshire democratic party for
doing such a great job tonight. aren't they terrific? [applause] you know in four days, granite stators will host the new hampshire primaries. it is our moment in the spotlight. and when the country and the world turn their attention to new hampshire, they get to see democracy at its very best. so, let me start with a very special thank you to the staff and volunteers who are here tonight. you are what makes this primary and our democracy work. thank you. [applause] thank you. now we have already heard from
our wonderful congresswoman, ann mclane kuster. we need her in the house of representatives fighting for us. and let's send carol shea-porter back to the house to represent the first district. [applause] wasn't it great to see governor lynch here tonight? [applause] and of course our great governor, maggie hassan. [applause] i don't -- i am getting there, just wait a minute. [laughter] i don't like to complain, but i really am kind of tired of having my vote canceled in the united states senate. so can you send maggie hassan to join me in november? [applause]
[applause] and senator amy klobuchar from minnesota. [applause] as amy said, today we where the sisterhood of the traveling pants suits. [applause] and i also want to acknowledge martin o'malley as a friend, and martin o'malley, and all of his supporters in new hampshire. for their contribution to this campaign. [applause] now i think you all know that bernie sanders is a colleague and a friend. [applause] and i admire the passion that he brings to the issues that he cares about. but hillary clinton is my choice for president. [applause] thank you. you are getting warmed up, right? i know hillary. i know her head and i know her
heart. i know that there is nobody who cares more about families. i know there is nobody tougher. anybody who watched her 11 hours of testimony before the benghazi committee knows that. [applause] now, in the democratic primaries and caucuses, we are focused on many of the domestic issues that are so important to us like increasing wages, and making the economy more fair.
but based -- you know one of the things that i really appreciate about new hampshire is that we are respectful of other people's points of view. [applause] and so i hope everybody here will be respectful of whatever choices each of us make in this primary election. because we need each other come november. [applause] so i was talking about our focus on the economy. on how we increase wages and make this economy fairer. but based on what i see in the senate, and i serve on the
senate armed services committee and the senate foreign relations committee. and i can tell you that the republicans intend to make the general election in november another national security election. they are already stoking people's fears and prejudices, and unfortunately we know that too often i can work. we saw it in 2002 here in new hampshire. we saw it in 2004. we saw it in 2014, when my opponent, scott brown, talked about terrorists coming across our southern border. we saw that he almost won the election because he made people afraid. well, we cannot let them do that in 2016.
and they will not be able to do that with hillary clinton. [applause] she will be -- she will be a sure hand as commander in chief and a president who knows how to build alliances around the world, because hillary knows how to get things done. and she will build on the progress of the obama administration. [applause] she will make pay equity a reality once and for all, and protect planned parenthood. raise the minimum wage, and fight to make college more affordable. she will stand up to the climate deniers. she will build international alliances to take on isis, and work to expand obamacare.
she will take on the gun lobby to pass sensible gun laws. [applause] so there is a lot at stake in this election. just think about president trump. and vice president scott brown. about a cabinet secretary, sarah palin. [booing] you know, we may laugh at the antics of donald trump, but it is no laughing matter when he proposes a special registry for muslim americans, and sadly it is not just trump. donald trump, ted cruz, marco rubio, their attacks on immigrants and minorities are attacks on every american. [applause]
they are insulting to the very foundation of our great democracy, and we will not let that stand. we will elect a president next fall who will build on the progress of president obama. [applause] no matter which candidate you are supporting, everyone in this building has helped engage voters, and helped communicate the difference between democrats and republicans, and in doing so you have laid the groundwork for a democratic victory next fall. thank you all very much. [applause]
thank you. now, i have the honor of giving the mcintyre shaheen award. and in doing this i would like to invite my family to come to the stage. you all know my husband, billy. [applause] my daughter stephanie, and my son-in-law craig. my daughter molly, and my son-in-law hugh. my daughter, stacy is not able to join us tonight. but, i asked them to come on stage because we are all very honored to have this named after our family.
the mcintyre shaheen award was established to honor a new hampshire democrat who has spent their life working on economic and social justice. this year's nominee has fought for the families of new hampshire and the new hampshire state legislature for 35 years. she is the one who year after year fought on the house finance committee to make sure health care and other critical services get decent funding. she has been the biggest defender in the state house for early childhood education and the importance of making sure that children have quality child care. [applause] she runs a childcare center that serves the neediest children in concorde. and so, it is my very great pleasure, our whole family's pleasure to be able to recognize and present this year's mcintire shaheen award to my friend of 30
senator mary jane wallner: wow. wow. well, even know i have been on -- though i have been on the legislature for 35 years, i am not really a public speaker. a crowd this big, i want to say, raymond, you know how to give a party. there is no doubt about that. i love being in a room with this many democrats. 6000 democrats in one room. i am sort of used to being in a room where there are 400 state representatives and not even half of us at this point are democrats. but come november, we are going to make a big difference. we are going to take back the majority. [applause] we are going to need all of your help. i think the most important thing is that we all work together in november to elect democrats at every level. from state representative right up to president of the united
states. so thank you. i appreciate this. i want to say thank you to my family. i feel like this is sort of like the academy awards. thank you to my family who have always supported me. thank you very much. i appreciate it. [applause] ♪ better than all the rest better than anyone anyone i ever met stomp on your heart i hang on every word you say tear us apart ♪
[cheers] >> the average person who gets elected president is intelligent, hard-working, and honestly tries to do what they said they were going to do when they get there. there is a big difference in who can do and who cannot. here is what i know about hillary -- she is the single best change maker i have ever met in my life. we need a change maker, not a change talker, a change maker. i will tell you a couple of stories. our court said our schools were not properly financed in