tv Marco Rubio Town Hall Meeting in Chapin South Carolina CSPAN February 18, 2016 3:25am-4:36am EST
these las vegas, hosted by a local labor union. that is live at 11:30 p.m. eastern, here on c-span. >> c-span's coverage of the presidential candidates continues this week, with campaign events in south carolina and nevada leading up to the south carolina gop primary and the nevada democratic caucuses. our live coverage of the result starts on saturday at 7:30 p.m. eastern, with the candidate speeches and your reaction on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span.org. of the republican presidential primary this weekend in south carolina, republican presidential candidate marco rubio received the endorsement of the state's governor nikki haley. they appeared together at a campaign rally. this is just over an hour. [applause] >> let's get a little chant going.
here today and i want to share a personal story with you. you know i love the great state of south carolina. i always say i am the proud daughter of indian parents that reminded us every day how blessed we were to be in this country. what i always know is that i am always trying to take care of south carolina. faced a year where i try to hold onto the state as much as i could. for the first time, i felt vulnerable. the people of south carolina made us all strong. [applause] they made us strong and away that made us know we had grace >> is it a great day in south carolina? so when it was time to look at
this presidential race, i thought from a different perspective. that this is serious. that this matters. i thought, first and foremost, as a mom, who wants her children to be safe in our country. who wants her children to have the education and opportunities, so they can be better than we were, which is what my parents wanted for us. i am a military wife of a combat veteran. [applause] gov. haley: i want a president who will have the backs of our military veterans, and those in active duty. [applause] gov. haley: i want a president that knows that when we fight wars, we win wars. [applause] gov. haley: i want a president that understands, we have to stop the federal mandates that
have been pushed on the states like obamacare and the epa. [applause] gov. haley: but i want a president who understands that they have to go back to washington dc and bring a conscience back to our republicans. [applause] gov. haley: our republicans need to remember what we are about, which is about balanced budgets, cutting debt, building reserves, and making sure that they understand that this guy, he is all about term limits in d.c., and that is what we want to see in a president. [applause] gov. haley: we have good people in this race. we have good people running for president. and i thank them today for their sacrifice and their willingness to serve and honor this great country and make her better.
but my job was to find the person i thought could do it the best. so i wanted somebody with fight. i wanted somebody with passion. i wanted somebody that had conviction to do the right thing, but i wanted somebody humble enough that remembers that you work for all the people. and i wanted somebody that was going to go and show my parents that the best decision they ever made for their children was coming to america. [applause] gov. haley: we say that every day is a great day in south carolina. ladies and gentlemen, if we elect marco rubio, every day will be a great day in america. [applause] gov. haley: help me welcome the next president of the united states, let's go to the polls on saturday and move that down the
way. marco rubio! [applause] sen. rubio: thank you. first of all, i can't tell you how honored i am to have the support of your governor, because there are a lot of good people, we have a good field of candidates. look, none of our candidates is a socialist. none of our candidates is under fbi investigation. but i am honored that she chose to join our team, because she embodies for me everything i want the republican party and the conservative movement to be about. everything it is about. i have enjoyed being here in south carolina over the last 10 days. we spent a lot of time here, my family, as tourists. we drive up every summer to washington. it's always about the halfway point of that drive. we always stop and spend time
here and money here, too, and we love being here. i have learned a lot about south carolina. i learned quickly, do not pick sides between usc and clemson. i have learned that the citadel is the finest military college in the world. and we learned what an inspiration south carolina is. you had a tough year, between floods and tragedies. any other state, any other community, would have reacted differently. but this state came together in a way that served as an example to the nation. for someone that doesn't live here, how moved and inspired the nation was when families of people who lost loved ones in a tragedy. they forgave the killer. it was not, it was about living out our faith.
it was about living out our values. south carolina taught that to the country this year. it has been so rewarding to spend the last 10 days here, working alongside many wonderful people on our team. governor haley talked about the decision her parents made to come here. it was like the decision my parents made in 1956, when they came to the united states. they arrived with nothing. they didn't have any money. the first words my father learned in english were, i am looking for work. it was hard when they got here. my father stopped going to school when he was nine years old because his mother passed away, so we never went back to school. he would work for the next 70 years of his life. when they came to this country, they struggled those first few years. life was difficult. here is what is amazing. less than 10 years after they came here with nothing, my parents owned a home. they owned a home in a safe neighborhood. the retired with dignity and
security. and they lived to see all four of their children have a life better than their own. that is my story. the truth is, as americans, that is our story. that is the governor's story. it is the story of millions of people across two centuries. one of the things i am safe in saying, i am so glad all of you are here today. i haven't met most of you in person. i don't know your stories individually, yet i know your story. i promise you, among us here today, the majority of you have a story not unlike mine. yours is the story of parents who give up everything so you could have a life they could never have. you remember the sacrifices your father made and her mother made for you. or maybe it was the one your grandparents made for your parents. this is a we are as a nation. this is who we are as a people. a nation where every generation
leaves the next better off, both in families and as a country. 2016 is a time when we must decide, what kind of country will we leave behind? if we stay on the road we are on now, a road that both political parties have put us on, if we stay on this road, we are going to be the first americans to leave their children worse off than themselves. that is the road we are on right now. and that is the road we are going to stay on, if in november, bernie sanders is elected president. listen, bernie sanders is a nice guy. he is nice, but he is a socialist. there are dozens of socialist countries in the world. if you want to live in a socialist country, moved to a socialist country. we want to be america. [applause] sen. rubio: hillary clinton is unqualified to be president of the united states. [applause] sen. rubio: she put intelligence
information on her server, because she think she is above the law. her plan was, she thought she would get elected and maybe she would pardon herself. on a more serious note, she is disqualified from being commander-in-chief. when four brave americans lost their lives in benghazi, she lied to their relatives and families. anybody who lies to the families of americans who have lost their lives in the service of our country can never be the commander-in-chief of the united states of america. [applause] sen. rubio: if we lose this election, we lose more than an election. i believe we will lose the american dream. if we lose this election and bernie sanders or hillary clinton, when obamacare becomes permanent, dodd-frank becomes permanent. the deal with iran becomes permanent. if we lose this election, the debt will grow and our military
will shrink. our reputation in the world will continue to decline. this is the consequences of losing this election. we cannot lose this election. we must win. or what is at stake is not simply what party will be in charge, what is at stake in this election is our identity as a nation and as a people. here is the good news. the good news is i believe with all my heart that it in this election we do what needs to be done, america's greatest days lie ahead. if we do it needs to be done, the 21st century has a chance to be the greatest chapter in the amazing story of the most amazing nation in the history of all mankind. [applause] but to achieve this, to achieve this, we must return to the principles that made us great to begin with. limited government. a limited federal government, not a federal government in charge of everything. a federal government that is in charge of only a few things, like national security. the rest, leave it up to the
states. i trust our states and local communities more than i could trust congress or the federal bureaucracy. [applause] sen. rubio: a limited government based on the constitution, on saturday, we were tragically reminded of what is at stake in the selection. we lost antonin scalia. in the history of the republic, there has never been a supreme court justice that understood the constitution better than he did. he understood the constitution was supposed to be applied according to its original meaning. it is not a living document that means whatever you want it to mean. and now he is gone. the next president will replace him, and i am telling you, i will be in the senate for another year. this president will not get to replace antonin scalia. [applause] sen. rubio: this election is about the second amendment, about the constitutional right
that we have to protect ourselves and our families, and when i am president we are going to defend the second amendment, not undermine it. [applause] sen. rubio: this election is not just about limited government, it is about free enterprise. i look at the state of south carolina under the leadership of your governor, and i have been saying this even before i got to south carolina. america needs to be doing what you are doing here. why are these companies moving here? why is boeing and michelin and bmw here? why are they coming? because of your high taxes? no. because you cut taxes. is it because a burdensome regulations? no. you reduced regulations. is it because your government wants to stick their hands into everything they are doing in their business? no. it is because you have a governor and a leadership that
understands the government does not create jobs, the private sector creates jobs. [applause] sen. rubio: free enterprise is the only economic model in the world where everyone can be better off without making anyone worse off. free enterprise is the only economic model in the history of the world where you can make poor people richer, and you don't have to make rich people poorer. that is why we believe in free enterprise. that is why when i am president, we will embrace free enterprise and we will make america the single best place in the world to start a business, grow a business, and create the best paying jobs of the 21st century. [applause] sen. rubio: the one thing the federal government has to do is provide for our national security. and one of the main reasons why barack obama is such a terrible president, is because he is a terrible commander-in-chief. look what they are doing to our military.
today, we are on pace to have the smallest army since the end of world war ii. the smallest navy in 100 years. the smallest air force in our history. you know what the average age of a plane is? 27. the pilots are younger than the planes. not a good sign. it is not like the world has gotten safer. there is a lunatic in north korea with nuclear weapons. the chinese are stealing our inventions, hacking our computers and taking over the south china sea. vladimir putin is sowing instability in europe and the middle east. iran is going to get $100 billion of sanctions relief. and what are they going to build? not orphanages. they will build up their military and acquire a nuclear weapon. and radical islamic jihadists are growing, particularly isis.
the most powerful well-funded, well-organized, and capable jihadist group in the history of the world that now has affiliates in over a dozen countries. in the face of all this, we are gutting our military. this is unfair to the men and women in uniform. we are still asking them to go into harm's way, but now, we are asking to do that with less people, all their aircraft and equipment and rules of engagement that do not allow them to win. that is why i want you to know, if you vote for me and i am elected president, we are going to rebuild the u.s. military, because the world is a safer and better place when america is the strongest military in the world. [applause] sen. rubio: when i am president, we will have a real war on terror, not the fake one going on now under barack obama. a real one. it will look like this. the best intelligence agencies in the world will tell us where the terrorists are, and the best military in the world will destroy them. if we capture any of these terrorists alive, they are not coming to south carolina.
they will go to guantanamo bay, cuba. and we are going to find out everything they know. we will take care of our veterans. this is my favorite part of the speech in south carolina, because it is amazing. i ask the veterans if you can raise your hand so we can thank you for your service. [applause] sen. rubio: it is amazing. literally, half the people in the crowd raised their hand. if you are not a veteran, raise your hand. what we are doing to our veterans is immoral. did you see the headline in "usa today"? i don't know if you saw it,
governor. i am paraphrasing, calls to be a suicide hotlines went to voicemail. do you think anybody will be fired over that? do you think anybody will be held accountable? no. they may get a promotion or a bonus. this is unacceptable. this is unacceptable. nikki haley is the governor of a state with a lot of veterans. i'm a senator of a state with a lot of veterans. a quarter of the calls to my office are about va benefits. veteran.nd is a my brother is a veteran. he is here today. he was a green beret special forces from '68-'71. [applause] i know what you are thinking, i thought that was his dad. [laughter] >> that is so wrong. so wrong. sen. rubio: he is 21 years older than me.
my mom was 19 when he was born and 40 when i was born. my parents were optimistic people. my sister was born after me. true story, he drove my mom to the hospital when she went into labor with me. those were different times back then. my dad was at work. back then, we used to call dad and say, yeah, you had a boy. but doctors thought he was the dad. but i can just tell you, my parents were so proud of his service to the country as our entire family is. and as we are for the sacrifices your families made. we don't take care of our veterans. we have a record number of veterans committing suicide. homeless. unemployed. and waiting in long lines at the va. there are good va hospitals and we thank them for what they do. we thank them for what they do. but when i am president, if you are not doing a good job at the va, you will be fired. not promoted, not a bonus. you will be fired.
[applause] when i am president, when i am president, our veterans, if they are unhappy at the va, they will be will to take their benefits to any hospital or doctor that they want to go to. [applause] sen. rubio: i want to close by thanking you all for being here again, and i want to ask you for your vote. 2016 is not another election. it truly is a turning point in the history of this country. what kind of turning point is what you will have to decide. it can be the greatest era in our history ahead of us. or, we will have to explain to our kids why we inherited the greatest nation in history and they got something less than that. i want you to understand what it would feel like to live in a society that tells you that no matter how hard you work, or how hard you try, there are only certain things he will be allowed to do because of who
your parents are. i just described to you the human condition for thousands of years. do you realize that most everyone that has ever lived, and in fact, most of the people alive today around the world, live in a society like the one i described? most of the people that have ever lived have lived in a society that said to them, you are only allowed to be whatever your parents were. no matter how hard you work. no matter how much you try, how good you are, you can only go so far. there is one exception. the united states. [applause] you know this in your life. you know this in your life. in this country, we are a generation or two removed from someone who opened doors for us that had been closed for them. we are a nation of go-getters. we are the descendents of immigrants and slaves, people
that overcame extraordinary challenge because they refuse to accept artificial limitations. and why are we different? why was that possible? it began at our founding, with a profound truth that our rights do not come from government. our rights come from god. it is on that principle that we were founded. [applause] our rights come from god, the right to life, the right to liberty, the right to pursue happiness. and it is the fact that we are based on that principle that for over two centuries, each generation has left the next better off. now, the time has come for us to do the same. the moment has arrived for this generation to do its part. we will not do our part if we stay on the road we are on now. we will not have done our part if we allow this country to abandon everything that made us special. that is why we have to win. not just this election, we have to win the future and that is why, what you do here on
saturday is so important. despite the challenges we face, and the challengers are real. we have an opportunity to grow the conservative movement, to take our message to people who don't vote for us now, two people that, for 25 years, have been told the republican party only cares about the rich people. and the democrats of the party of the working class. that is a lie. that is a total lie. big government hurts people that are trying to make it. [applause] big government traps people that are trying to make it in poverty. we have safety net programs that track people in poverty, that have become a way of life and a lifestyle. only free enterprise provides the opportunity, only a free economy provides the chance to quit your job and start a business out of the spare bedroom of your home. that is what we need to be again as a nation, and that will only happen if we win this election with the right people in the right candidate. that is why i ask you for your support, because that is what i will do.
if i am president, i will unite the conservative movement, and we will grow it. we will take our message to people that are living the way your governor and i grew up. we will take our message to the hotel maids i see around the country as i travel, as they come down the hallway with their cart with the towels stacked up in the soap boxes, a lot of them heard my mom was a maid. you learn the american dream is alive in them. they are working so their kids can be anything they want to be. we will take our message to the father that drives a taxicab at night so he can go to school during the day. so one day, he can give his kids a chance to be everything he never had a chance to be. we will be the party of parents that are struggling with the cost of living. we will be the party of the single mother who makes $10 per hour and is trying to raise her
kids because the father of those children has abandoned them. so she needs to go back to school and become a paralegal or a dental hygienist, but she can't because she has to work full-time and school is too expensive. we will be the party of young americans facing thousands of dollars in student loan debt, borrowed for degrees that will not lead to jobs. we will be the party of the people that are willing to work hard and sacrifice to not just achieve a better life for themselves, but a better future for their children. we will take our conservative message, not diminish it, not water it down, we are going to take it to people that are living the way we grew up, two people living paycheck to paycheck the way i grew up. someone asked me, what his paycheck to paycheck? it is when you write a check on wednesday even though you don't get paid till friday so you date it saturday. that is paycheck to paycheck. i am not saying i ever did that. the press is here.
i am just saying, i know what it is. we are going to do when needs to be done. you and i refuse to be, and nikki haley refuses to become a part of a generation that has to look our kids in the eye and explain to them why it is that the incredible america that changed our life is no longer around for them. that is what we are going to do. and let me tell you what history will say to us if we do it needs to be done. history will say that this generation of americans, like the one that came before us, we confronted our challenges. we solved our problems, we didn't pass them along to our children. we did what needed to be done, and because we did, the american dream did not just survive. it reached more people and change more lives than before. we did what needed to be done. our children became the freest and most prosperous americans that ever lived, because we did what needed to be done, the 21st century is a new
american century. we are going to do with needs to be done, so when our time is done and history writes about this moment, it will say that we, those americans live here and now in the early years of this century, were the authors of the greatest chapter in the amazing story of the greatest nation in the history of all mankind. so i need your vote, and i thank you. god bless you. gov. haley: i just want to say to everybody, this is one of many bruises i will take from marco rubio. so if i'm going to do that, i need you to go out on saturday. i need you to contact 10 people, jump on facebook, i need you to go on instagram, take a picture of us. i need to make sure we have the highest turnout we have ever had in south carolina. we make presidents. let's make marco rubio the next
president of the united states. god bless. ♪ >> ♪ bring your gift, bring your frame ♪ ♪ don't you know that's not your name ♪ ♪ you will always be much more to me the voices are telling me i'm not right, it's all right. because i hear a voice and it calls me every day greater is the one that is inside of me than the one that is living in the world
in the world, in the world greater is the one living inside of me than he who is living in the world bring your doubt, bring your faith bring your burden, bring your tears there will be no condemnation here every time i fall, those who will call me it's ok i hear a voice said he calls me by name greater is the voice inside of me than he who is living in the world and greater is the
think. i don't have to argue with anyone. >> can i get a handshake, senator? thank you. rubio: i did it naturally. good to see you. thank you so much. >> can i get a picture? sen. rubio: where is your camera? >> thank you. >> will you sign this for me? serious?o: are you purse.ng to ruin your hold on. where is your camera? >> right here. thanks, buddy.
did you get us. >> you got my vote today. >> could i get a picture? sen. rubio: thanks, guys. you voted today? where is your camera? >> right there. thank you so much. thank you so much. >> marco. sen. rubio: thank you for having us. hold on one second, let me get this picture. >> thank you. yes, ma'am. where is your camera? >> right there. thank you. >> can i get one, sir? can i get a picture? sen. rubio: where is your camera? >> right here. >> can i get a picture, mr. rubio?
sen. rubio: thank you. appreciate it. let me sign this while you get a picture. thank you so much for being here. awesome. >> will you turn this way? sen. rubio: ok. thank you, guys. >> thank you. thank you so much. >> thank you. sen. rubio: i have to earn that, but i appreciate your confidence. i have to get to the cnn thing. i have a thing at 9:00 in greenville. thank you. >> god bless you.
>> [speaking spanish] sen. rubio: [speaking spanish] much, marco.so god bless you. can i get a picture? sen. rubio: where is your camera? get your son up. ready? >> thank you so much. >> thanks, buddy. >> mr. rubio. sen. rubio: thank you, guys. thank you for being here. it is my honor to be able to do this. it is my honor. thank you.
and you so much for having us. is that you? your website,t you look at mine. rubio: i will look at that tonight. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> can we get one picture with all of us? sen. rubio: good to see you. is that your camera? >> yes. thank you, thank you. sen. rubio: i will be right back, guys. i got to say hi to --
thank you for coming today, guys. i am excited you guys are here. >> marco. sen. rubio: let me say hi to these guys. >> i have to see the picture. thank you. my brother graduated. amazing.o: >> where is he? i don't see him. take care, senator. sen. rubio: would you like me to sign it? >> yes. sen. rubio: ok, ready? >> single mothers. sen. rubio: absolutely.
thank you. >> can i be sure you will change america for my generation? sen. rubio: sure. >> can i get a picture with you? >> the line is really bad. sen. rubio: where is your camera? all right. >> can i get one? sen. rubio: got it? >> thank you so much. sen. rubio: yeah. >> if you don't mind, can i get your signature? sen. rubio: thank you, guys. >> thank you, senator.
rubio: thank you. >> i need the senator over here. please. please. sen. rubio: here we go. thank you, guys. absolutely. >> thank you for your speech. >> let's get out of the way. >> thank you. >> senator rubio, over here please. >> can we get a picture? we didn't get a picture. sen. rubio: i will be right here. hold on. >> ok, look right here. cheese. >> thank you so much. you're sody thinks young, but you're one year
younger than cruz. sen. rubio: five months. the only business where looking younger is a bad thing. >> turnaround, turn around. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. can we get some pictures? sen. rubio: yes. >> he said yes. sen. rubio: thank you, guys. thanks for being here, guys. good to see you, man. thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> i am a struggling in law school. sen. rubio: what year are you guys in? oh, that is the hardest one.
>> can i take one, too? >> thank you. sen. rubio: what an honor to see you. >> yes, sir. thank you. sen. rubio: i appreciate it so much. my brother, i hope he had a chance to meet you. he will be doing some work around here. we are honored by your service. it is an honor to have you on our team. can we get a picture? thank you so much. >> thank you, sir. sen. rubio: good to see you. thank you. shall i sign that? >> can i get a picture with you? sen. rubio: yes, ma'am. where is your camera? >> i appreciate you, sir. >> i think so. right here. these kids.
>> quite a few people still here us.enator rubio gets on his it is a little chilly. we don't want to keep people too long. let me introduce you to two college students. what is your name? >> william mcveigh. made your decision? >> i think i made my decision. i think i'm going to vote for marco rubio. marco always been down to or jeb bush, and i think he is a big states rights guy which i'm into. >> you are a young man. some say he is too young to be president. what is your response? >> i think pretty much in this day and age can live as much as they want to. him being a little younger, i
do connect to him more than older generations. i think he is more in touch. >> he picked up the governor's endorsement. well that metal -- will that matter? >> me being from kentucky, doesn't matter too much. >> how much interest is there on campus? >> ic a lot going around. i'm in the party of anybody that can catch donald trump. i'm a big rubio guy after today. >> it is about a 40 minute drive. why did you come? >> i wanted to hear his side of everything. we are trying to gather as much information as we can from all the rallies. i'm still undecided. >> when are you going to make up your mind? >> i am from florida. i'm doing an absentee ballot.
>> what are you looking for any candidate? >> a strong leader. someone who doesn't just jump around the questions. a strong background. i think marco rubio has done well for my state of florida. same with jeb bush. i'm in between them to ask to floridians in this -- i'm between them. floridians in this race. >> they are going to kind of duke it out against each other, in my state. i hope the best for both of them and i hope one can come out on top. ose by asking you what you think of the trump for doma. >> it is sensationalism. he says things that are getting people riled up. they are willing to hear him say
these things and we hate these people. i don't think there is much substance behind it but people are not looking for the substance anymore. >> if he secures the nomination, would you vote for him? >> i cannot say. think so.t -- i don't he jumps around the questions too much for me. he doesn't come out with concrete evidence for his answers. i want someone more fact-based. he is not in my eyes a great person. >> two students at the marco rubio event. >> we will check in with more for the evening. an endorsement to let you know, not just of nikki haley, but the newspaper endorsing governor john kasich. gridlock. the piece is available at the state.com. should ignore the blather of candidates without
credentials to lead the country. instead, voters should choose ohio governor john kasich and his actual record of improving federal and state governments. michelle joins us from charlotte, republican line. what is your take on the michelle: i think marco is absolutely awesome. he is what our country needs. i hope that everybody will get out and vote for him. larry: how you doing today? that i amted to say in alabama i have contacted my and i told them how i felt and i have contacted many friends all over the united states.
the consensus is that rubio is the best for our country. with all the issues and everything. will not need somebody who blow up and get hot in the white house. somebody with the nuclear finger . it could be a mess. host: re: issue of experience, do you think rubio has the experience to be the commander-in-chief and the president. the foreign affairs end of it and marco being on the senate committee i think he is the most experienced in knowing what is going on in the world. of everybody was on the stage. we are back on the campaign trail tomorrow covering jeb bush in south carolina and governor john kasich. a late evening rally in las
vegas in advance of the democratic caucuses in nevada with hillary clinton. you can watch that here on c-span. i am a woman born in manhattan. i came to florida and under jeb , charlie marco rubio crist, they were the worst. i was crucified here. i am trying to get back to new york. bushman rubio and to jeb is a liar because i have a letter that i sent to jeb bush when he was governor. these men are not telling the truth. he doesn't know me. but i grew up knowing about donald trump.
susan: i would like to introduce you to emerald. emerald: i am from columbia south carolina. i am a moderate. i will be voting on saturday. i have not made up my mind. this rally was actually pretty fantastic. i'm leaning a little more court toward the john kasich. i'm interested hearing from all the candidates. from three. governor bush, senator rubio and senator sanders. i think rubio's ideas on making
sure that anybody who wants to work for something he will be creating opportunity for four. i'm a big proponent of national service. we will work for a year here in this country, work for the country if we can really some of our student loan debt. south carolina is known for teeth ofout the people. that is very interesting. it ist think that definitely showing people in the best light at times. hopefully we can get down to the truth in another day. a lot of my friends and work colleagues will be voting next week in the democratic primary. i work in the nonprofit sector
so many of them are democrats. they have differing ideas about what liberty and justice means here in the united states. different ideas. have interesting conversations. thank you for a much. steve: i want to share with you some new national polls. nbc news and the wall street journal released just a few hours ago. showing ted cruz ahead nationally at 28%. he told nbc that he is the new front runner. donald trump is a 26%.
jerry: i'm going to vote on saturday. i support rubio. to start with, i have a side from a neighborhood grocery store for donald trump. that is the really sign that is daily sinai to get. i put in my yard. since i been listening to him on and all of his stupid stuff that he is staying, calling him orliars i don't want someone like that representing me. this is a great country. if we don't get the right person up there we