tv John Kasich Town Hall Meeting in Clemson South Carolina CSPAN February 19, 2016 1:09am-2:38am EST
mr. kasich: there's nothing more to say then i will tell you this -- as i have been out here. this is not unusual. that story is so painful. i've heard about pain all across this country. and i've learned we are going to fast. we need to slow down. there are not enough people who are helping those with no one
celebrate their victories and we don't have enough people that will sit down and cry with that young man. don't you see that's what it's about? we can rebuild the country and we can get people on their feet and we can grow but is there any substitute for what you just heard? there isn't. as americans, let's renew our spirit. let's care about one another and not be disconnected and together we will rise this country from a position where we doubt to a position to being americans when we are so confident of the future for ourselves and our children. i have two 16-year-olds. for my grandchildren one day. thank you and god bless you. [applause]
thank you. >> in new hampshire, you told us why it was important but why do you think you are the best person to end the gridlock in washington? mr. kasich: i get along with everybody. here we go. two more and i have to go. get your friends. thank you. that young man, i went in to get -- to go with us to georgia. >> i just wanted to thank you. i'm from ohio. mr. kasich: where did you go to high school?
of donald trump versus the pope. coming up later, we will share with you the interview we conducted with jim this morning but first, susan in clemson, south carolina. institute the german at clemson. meet kirk brown. he has been covering all the in andtes as they come he was here today. give our viewers a snapshot of the voters in this region. >> this tends to be a conservative republican area of the state. mr. trump is doing well. it appears senator cruz and senator rubio are spending some
time in this area and are in a tough fight for second place here. what kind of conservatives? christian, social? >> a mix of both. a lot of evangelicals. >> is this john kasich territory? did he have a hard time making his message appeal? >> he tends to be more moderate than the other republican candidates. this was the first time he's been into the area. beforejust a couple days the primary. apparently he felt it was important to make at least one stop here. >> what has been your impression of the overall scenes the candidates? >> a lot have talked about change, a lot of effort to appeal to voters they believe are angry about the way things
are going in the federal government. and senator cruz is talking a lot about the supreme court now in the need to get a conservative judge on the court. i think you will find a lot more baptist then catholics. mr. trump seems to have weathered everything that comes his way. probably around 25% of the total electorate. we are expecting a busy day
saturday. host: another tweet from lisa who covers politics on the l.a. times. i going to vote saturday? >> yes. host: is your candidate? caller: ted cruz. host: why? caller: i think he's a man of character. i like marco also. i like most of them. any of them but trump. and i just hope he don't win. maybe ted cruz, he has
host: lula senator cruz yesterday. we will get one of his final event tomorrow. he will be in west columbia, south carolina. richard joining us from gilbert, south carolina. caller: i might outside the capital. have you decided? caller: i have decided. i am voting for donald trump. host: why? caller: i feel like after barack obama ruining this country like he has during his time in office, we need someone strong like donald trump. i also like the way donald trump is bringing in people to the side of things -- the democrats
are no longer the democratic party, they are the socialist party. host: a lot of attention on donald trump. his tone, his demeanor. do you think he has the characteristics to be president? guest: who cares about town? we have been lied to so many times by these establishment politicians. they promised they will do things and a get to washington and don't do anything. donald trump is a businessman, a successful businessman who understands business and the way we have been losing to other countries. america is not strong anymore like it was when i was young. to be an be proud american and i'm not proud of the way this country has been going. this world has gotten so dangerous with north korea, russia, china all getting
together, building these islands for war. host: thank you for the call. another call in south carolina. caller: yes sir. i'm on. host: yes. caller: i fully agree with that unless color. obama has destroyed this country. years as an air traffic controller in the air force going to foreign countries. has by doing or not doing has absolutely been the worst president we have ever had. trumpoting for donald because i feel he can do the best for all of us.
they say a lot when they're running for president. , weedeater get this obama kicked out and stay out of politics. host: a moment at the end of today's townhall meeting. we will go back with susan. >> thank you, steve. who watched the townhall meeting heard him ask the last question. from the university of georgia. how long is the trip? >> a little over an hour. >> tell me how you came in to ask the last question. did the john kasich people know you were here? >> they didn't really. i feel i'm ready passionate about supporting him and i
wanted people to know why and hopefully they can take something from the. -- from that. i want people to know he is a good person and he is a uniter. >> i heard you say it was important. really hear you explain why he is your candidate. >> i support him because he has a record. i like people with records. i like bet it's a good, conservative record. i like his message of putting people before the party. american before republican or democrat. i'm a pretty moderate republican. he is a human and in his first debate, he gave the gay marriage comment or he said you don't have to agree with it but that
doesn't mean i can't love them and celebrate with them. i thought, that's a sane answer. that's what everyone thinks. that's a fine take away from it. when i look at debates or something, i see the same candidate. >> have you been to other k-6 event -- john kasich event? i haven't. i loved it. i was in the zone. i was inspired, moved. i went to a trump rally also for entertainment purposes. i don't support him. i wasn't impressed. i don't want that to be my president. >> did you know you would end the event on such an emotional note? >> i didn't. him.lad i got to hug
that was kind of cool. i'm a big fan of his so it was a big moment for me i got to do that. >> you are a senior majoring in political science. what are you going to do? >> he gives me hope because he was a political scientist. maybe i will be governor one day. i would like to work in a news organization or for his campaign. i would love to be able to get involved. >> thank you for talking with us at this event. >> thank you>>. a tweet from the event today from kirk brown. john kasich now saying he supports the americorps program. that moment susan was talking about will be tweeted out. you can check it out. shane on the republican line. good afternoon. caller: good afternoon.
host: your that's about governor kasich -- your thoughts about governor kasich. republican voter. i'm going to be voting for donald trump. i believe donald trump has the experience we need to move this country forward and the experience to build this economy and that is what we need. we are lacking in military, education funding. has a big government agenda and i believe to make this country great again -- host: thank you. next up, a caller from south carolina. the republican line. go ahead, diane. caller: hello.
how are you? host: fine thank you. are you going to vote? caller: i sure am. host: give us a sense of what it is like living in south carolina this past week with the candidates crisscrossing the state. , it has been hectic. it makes me nervous when they argue. i know they have to get their points and their voice out. i think there has been a lot of good coverage. i watch c-span, fox, cnn. i watch all the debates. like there has been a lot of good coverage. host: who is your candidate? caller: donald trump. host: who have you supported in the past? supported mitt romney.
i voted for him. republican but i like republicans believe lease and things more than i do democrats but i did vote for bill clinton. i would not vote for hillary. he was a pretty good president. i voted for ronald reagan. just barely old enough that even to vote for him. then to vote for him. i think we have to have somebody tough in office and you have to make a stand now in the country but you have also got to be able to make deals. you very much for calling and we will get to more of your calls in just a moment but first, back to clemson,
south carolina. susan cole into the thurmond institute, a think tank on campus. let me introduce you to a gentleman who came to this event as an undecided voter. walked in the door undecided and told me you are not. why? >> that is correct. i started out thinking that i would be a trump guy. and i think i kept thinking that hentually in these debates, would act more presidential. that isn't happening. i was really turned off about the attacks on george bush at the last debate and the fact that rubio and ted cruz fall into this scenario with all of these light of comments. it's just not presidential.
one thing i notice about john kasich in the early debates when here were so many people, didn't say much so i couldn't really form an opinion. the last debate, i thought i need to go check this guy out. after today, i will vote for john kasich. susan: what did you see that you like? ande is very value-based vision-driven. he l equated a vision of where he wanted -- l equated -- elo quated a vision of where he wanted to go. aboutred experiences growing up in pennsylvania. i grew up there so i related to some of that. he did a great job of explaining who he was and what he was about and i have no doubt i will vote for john kasich. host: why is he not getting more
traction this year? soyou know, i think we are reality-driven on television and all that if you look at what is going on with trump and rubio uz, it's almost reality television and we seem to like that kind of thing. i think part of john's situation is he hasn't been heard that much. if you look at the debates and look at the amount of time given to him, he didn't get much a say until this last debate. i think the more people hear from him, that will make a difference. susan collins formerly undecided kasich madeom john the sale today. thank you. from theew poll out fox news channel schilling in south carolina, donald trump contains his lead.
at 32%, senator cruz at 19%, senator rubio at 15%. david in georgia on the republican line. good afternoon. i'm noti wanted to say for john kasich. i am for trump. everybody wants to get down on trump because they say he used to be pro-choice. people do change. people see these able body parts -- baby body parts. i went to attempt my family full -- one to protect my family. -- want to protect my family. i'm not a child molester.
look what we got now. he might not be a perfect christian but he does answer questions and does say what he says. taking my call. host: thank you. we appreciate it. steve from greenville, south carolina. caller: i just caught a little of the end of the john kasich event and he seems more like a moderate republican, which is where i am kind of coming from. anything like on medical marijuana or his more moderate views on gun rights or anything? host: he has spoken about guns but not at this particular event and i don't leave he spoke about medical marijuana host that he
has a number of events all on our website at www.c-span.org. we encourage you to check it out. are these issues important to you? caller: i just think that as our country is coming to hopefully more of a moderate stands outside of these christian nuts and think like that, i think it's something to look at and i think it's unfortunate for the republican party some of these issues are being breezed over because they might the two liberal and they don't get attention because -- too liberal and they don't get too much attention because you have to appease the right wing. i just think it's unfortunate. host: thank you for the call. governor kasich will be in greenville tomorrow. susan is on the campus of clemson university with more participants from today's event
with the governor kasich. this will be the last person we are talking to at the john kasich townhome. sleep -- townhall. you are not voting on saturday but you are a super tuesday voter. >> i will be going back to georgia to vote. susan: why did you come today? >> i feel like i have been able to pledge my support to him. i haven't grown up a republican. i don't consider myself aligned with a political party. when you look at people of americanse fear and not giving practical solutions and just trying to be the loudest, it is worrisome and kind of making enemies out of the other political party. i think john kasich can unite the parties and put an american
before being a republican and i respect that. susan: what did you hear today that resonated with you? >> i was really hoping what i saw beforehand would be proven true and whenever he stated arectly that he was not republican first but an american first and he was willing to cross the aisle to get things done, that resonated with me. susan: governor kasich isn't doing so well in the polls. i'm wondering how you see his path going forward. >> i think he needs to keep in mind south carolina is historically one of the most conservative states and the people going along with the fear mongering will do better here but there are more moderate states ahead and if people keep listening to his message, i think he will resonate with moderate voters. >> are you interested enough that you might start working for
him? >> absolutely. i signed up earlier this week and they will be in touch with me for more grassroots movements. i'm looking forward to being involved. susan: thank you for talking to us. host: a note about super tuesday. on the day of the nevada caucuses next tuesday, governor kasich will be holding two campaign events in georgia. >>r >> pope francis adjusting donald trump is not a christian and donald trump calling that disgraceful.
tournament david jackson from usa today was following this story. thank you very much for being with us. >> quite a development. how did this all come about. francis'sut of pope visit to mexico. there was a lot of talk about the immigration issue. there were some reports that the trump subject had come up and discussions with mexican officials. donald trump had said earlier in the week the pope was being used as a pawn by the mexican government because they do not like him. this was floating in the air. today, it turns out on the flight back to rome, the pope had a news conference. someone asked him about trump's comments. that is when he made the statement that someone who wants to build a wall is not christian. i did not here anything about it except for trump was running late for an event. i was curious as to what was happening.
"the new york times" put up a story about the pope criticizing trump. then we were off to the races. trump appeared on stage and blasted the pope for the comments. host: david jackson, did you ever think you would be writing a story a few days before the south carolina primary that included the pope and donald trump? caller: the leading presidential candidate getting into a dispute with the pope is one for the books. host: marco rubio and jeb bush did not want to weigh in on the issue. what is the reason? guest: if two guys are beating each other up, you may not want to get in the middle of it. they are not sure how it could play politically.
there are not a lot of catholics in south carolina. for them to get involved, they do not know how the politics would play out. ted cruz said the same thing. he said this is all between donald trump and the pope. host: what did ben carson tell reporters? [laughter] guest: he said that it would be ridiculous if it were not so sad. host: we are talking with david jackson. as a native of south carolina, what do you expect to happen? donald trump with a double-digit lead, but other candidates say they have a strong ground organization. guest: most people expect trump to win, but the question is how big the margin will be. there are not exactly precise as some of the polls we have seen in some of the other states. the question is whether trump will finish in the high 20's and who will be in second place. how close will they be?
host: what about jeb bush, who needs to be a top finisher in the state? his brother and mother are campaigning here. what does he need to do? david: he needs to finish second. there is more dispute over bush's position than any other candidate. he does have a strong ground game in south carolina. the remnants of the same that promoted his brother and father. the bush family name still carries some weight in south carolina. he could be anywhere from second to fifth. host: let me ask you about endorsements. the state newspaper supporting john kasich. nikki haley yesterday endorsing marco rubio. do these endorsements matter? david: we will find out. rubio probably has the best lineup of endorsements. he has nikki haley and tim
scott. lindsey graham is backing jeb bush. rubio has the all-star political team behind him to push him into second place. ted cruz, it is a lot of religious leaders and social conservatives. we will see if it is a grassroots victory or elected officials. host: what about newspaper endorsements? david: i do not think it will mean that much. kasich is not much of a factor. he campaigned in michigan earlier this week. he got a late start in south carolina and is not well-known. host: david jackson, joining us from south carolina. his work is available online at usatoday.com. thank you for being with us. david: thank you, steve. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> this weekend is the south carolina primary and sees's
coverage continues. live at 5:30 p.m. eastern. speak tod trouble voters at a rally in north charleston, south carolina. five cover starting at 7:00 p.m. eastern on c-span two. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] >> during campaign 2016, c-span takes you on the road to the white house. we follow the candidates on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span.org. >> next, and look at the will african americans will play in the 2016 election. we spoke to the president of the national urban league on washington journal. this is 30 minutes. c-span for c-span radio and c-span.org. >> washington journal continues. host: joining us now is mark
morial. we will be discussing resident of candidates and issues that are important to black voters. guest: good to be with you. host: what are the issues that are important not only to the league but to black voters? guest: i think we should think about it this way. the issues that are important to all voters are important to black voters. black voters are an important part of the electorate but should not be seen as a separate part of the american electorate. african-americans face a set of problems due to history, public policy, that need what i call focused attention. what we did in this election cycle, we began almost a year ago with invitations to all candidates to join us at the
national urban league conference in fort lauderdale, florida. five candidates accepted that invitation. hillary clinton, bernie sanders, martin o'malley, jeb bush and dr. ben carson joined us. we followed that up with a questionnaire sent to all of the candidates and for your viewers who may be interested in the questionnaire and responses, they can go to nul.org and take a look. every candidate did not respond to that questionnaire. hillary clinton did. martin o'malley did. bernie sanders did. ben carson did and so did christopher christie. christie is now out of the race. what we have done is we have extended an invitation to every candidate to participate in a civil rights briefing. the idea that pre-thing is for briefing idea of that
is for us to present to each candidate our agenda, our policy prescriptions. things would let to see the next president execute on should they become president and commander in chief. so far, we did the first of these briefings with hillary clinton on tuesday in new york city and we will do the second of them today with bernie sanders here in washington, d.c. and we continue to extend a public invitation. it has gone out in writing. every candidate has it is their inbox to participate in the same type of briefing. our aim is to ensure that civil rights, social justice come and economic justice are at the center of the debate for the next president of the united states. host: why do you think it appears the democrats have been more responsive to your requests? why do you think the democrats are more responsive? guest: what is interesting to me
is that until the last election, the 2012 election, republican candidates like george w. bush and john mccain always engaged with the national urban league and came to our conference even if there were differences in public policy they came to engage. something has occurred i think within the republican party and within the republican way of thinking over the last several years. a significant disengagement. while it has been good for me on an annual basis to have a dialogue with mitch mcconnell, historically once he became speaker of the house, john boehner did not engage with us. did not accept invitations for meetings or with any dialogue. in this campaign, jeb bush and ben carson, they came and engaged.
they said what they thought they needed to say and what they wanted to say and i think it is puzzling why anyone who is running today, even if you are trying to get primary votes, ultimately your aim is to become president of all of the american people. i think engaging with historic social justice authorizations is important. organizationsice is important. 196i-5,ng rights act of extensions of 1975, 1982 and 2006 were undertaken and done inh bipartisan coalitions members of congress. the civil rights act of 1964 was undertaken and successfully passed through congress with a bipartisan coalition. we want to send the message that we don't believe that civil rights, social justice and economic justice issues should
only be "democratic issues." we think they are issues for everyone, every candidate. we think every candidate should engage with us in a dialogue so we will continue to reach out throughout the election cycle as we seek a dialogue with each candidate who is running, even if we have different -- we have disagreements, that is what american democracy is about. let's have a conversation even if we don't come to an agreement on every issue. let's have discussion. let's engage. that is what democracy is about. host: we want our callers to engage with marc morial, head of the national urban league. up next we have terry from seamy valley, california. valley, california. caller: thank you for taking my call. why thelike to ask
sock caucus finds it difficult to get the point across so that change comes more quickly. voting in a barack obama should have answered the cry eight years ago and yet it has not. it pains me to see that the struggle goes on. i feel that hillary clinton has done so much and yet bernie sanders, who has done so little, is equal in the polls. the black vote fear feels about either of these candidates. guest: i could not speak for the entire black community but i think the african american community is not monolithic. primary,08 democratic
there was an active, energetic competition for the votes of the african-american community by and between barack obama and hillary clinton. traditionally in the democratic primary you have had that kind of competition. you can go all the way back to when984 and 1988 cycles jesse jackson ran and walter mondale ran and michael dukakis ran. a vigorous competition for the votes of african-americans. i think that vigorous competition sends the message that the votes of african-americans, like the votes of any group of americans has to be earned, cannot be taken for granted. i think people read into president obama's election too many lofty things. there were those who said this one election, as significant, as
historic, as earth shattering as it was, means that america has purged itself of all of the issues of the past. that was never the case and those that thought it was the case were overstating the impact of the president's election. the president's election brought into play a very energized, organized opposition effort. it was after the election that the tea party, which was an activist movement on the right, was well organized and well financed, really in an effort to fort -- two thwart his legislative achievements. members of the senate and congress made it their cause and purpose to try to defeat him and the 2012 election. i think the president possible election is the story -- is historic and will look back and
people will understand his a college mince. -- understand his of accomplishments. they will also understand and maybe america missed some opportunities here. that opportunity was to accept the idea that he was president to unify and consolidate around the president. i think that historically prior to his election all presidents were provided with a reasonable period of a honeymoon. a reasonable time to get their agenda in place. i don't think barack obama was given that kind of honeymoon consistent with what you saw with other presidents. we have to look at this with very clear eyes and understand it was significant but maybe people read too much into it. i think when we look back the changes that he will bring about and their effects are going to be long-term and i believe they
will be significantly positive. host: looking at the current democratic race between hillary clinton and bernie sanders you have the financial times saying that sanders is playing catch-up among african-americans. he has been recently reaching out to people like al sharpton and other members of the black community. even the last caller said hillary clinton has done so much and sanders has done so little. do you think that perception-- guest: this is the reality. bernie sanders is a relatively new entrant to national political discourse. he has been a member of the house, the senate, mayor of burlington, a 30 year political career. i met him for the first time last summer. i thought to myself, this is maybe a bit unusual because although he has been on the scene and you have to say that he probably has a mostly
progressive voting record. hillary clinton, no doubt, has a set of relationships from her time in the united states senate, her time as secretary of state, as first lady not only to the united states but also first lady to the state of arkansas, long-standing relationships. and when you run for president before, you also have millions of voters who voted for you once before. that is where it starts. i think bernie sanders is working to play catch-up. i think he is working hard to get known. he has managed to attract some high-profile support and endorsements. we have something -- a competitive landscape for the votes of african-americans. we don't want on the one hand the votes of african-americans to be taken for granted.
we certainly don't want on the other hand where african-americans are ignored until one month before the election when people make last-second appeals to try to say i'm your person, please vote for me, please trust me. trust is earned. we will meet the nine leaders of civil rights organizations with senator sanders today. we will present to him our 21st century agenda for jobs and freedom. we will take time to talk about issues of police, criminal justice reform, the economy and economic justice and small business growth and development. we will talk about voting rights and mass incarceration. issues related to black women. supreme court and other executive branch and judicial branch appointments. it's going to be a full and complete conversation. that's what we had with hillary clinton.
it is the same kind of conversation we want to have with bernie sanders. host: you mentioned the idea of some candidates taking black votes for granted. in the boston globe, derek jackson wrote about hillary clinton saying, clinton who earned an estimated $1.8 million in big banks begin fees in 2013 and 2014 shamelessly counts on blacks for support while she is engaged with a system that holds back the aspirations of too many black people. he goes on, she is hoping no one remembers how husband bill put the black poor before the criminal justice firing squad and how she is in bed with the banks that stole the american dream from black homeowners. guest: if people want to talk about the criminal justice -- the crime bill of the 90's, hillary clinton did not vote for that. bernie sanders did. let's talk about who voted for what, not what someone's husband
may have done. had crime bill, while it three strikes you're out provisions in it, also had the crime package at the time also had within it the provisions that are being used by the department of justice to sue ferguson. this with atake full and complete set of facts. i think there is a consensus that the crime initiatives in the 1990's did a lot of damage. what we ought to be talking about is who can modify them? who has the political will, the leadership ability to push through the congress significant changes? who can set the climate in the country to try to impact state criminal laws? this is not just the thing about whether i can check a box and
say i am for something or not for something as president of the united states. those of us who have been in leadership positions, particularly executive branch positions, know that it is not just good intentions that make an effective president. it is good intentions and good skills. i think it is important to recognize that if you are going to talk about the crime bill, you have to talk about who voted for it and who did not. you also have to talk about things that took place in the 1990's like the anti-assault weapons ban, expansion of the brady bill, civil rights provisions that gave the justice department a stronger hand in going after violations undertaken by police departments which was somewhat utilized in the clinton years. rollback in the bush years and the obama justice department and its civil rights division have gotten aggressive in using those
provisions. where do those provisions come from? if we are going to have a discussion about these issues, we have to have a discussion that has some depth and facts and not just topline talking points. host: we have callers to chime into this conversation. let's go to derek from minnesota. you are on with marc morial of the national urban league. caller: good morning. guest: good morning. caller: i recently got married. i have a quick comment and a question. and wheny got married i was filling out the form they wanted me to make sure -- they almost forced us to put down what race we are and i refused to do it because we are all a part of the human race. at the end of the day the argument was won by us. my wife and i put human race. don't you think that this whole
thing about dividing us based on our color -- i am sick of people calling us white. i am not white. african-americans? are you black? i hear liberals saying black, african-americans. this exacerbates the issue of dividing us. we are all children of god. guest: i agree we are all children of god. we are all members of the human race but race and ethnic distinctions are part of the fabric of this country and by not talking about it we don't imagine it into nonexistence. -- at thetution constitutional convention treated african-americans as 3/5 of a -- three fits of a person, in effect sanctioned
slavery. the congress in the courts of the late 1800s sanctioned a system of segregation based exclusively on race. i believe that to get beyond it if someone does not want to put anything down on a form so be it but i think it is important if we are going to confront the issue of race and the issue of racial disparities and inequalities in this country, we need to have a sense of how public policies, how the conditions that exist affect people based on race. we ought to be able to have an intelligent if sometimes painful conversation about race and racial distinctions in america. we all have a goal and the goal is a level playing field. and america that i believe is like a gumbo or a rainbow. we are all one but we have distinctiveness. should an italian-american discontinue being proud of their
heritage as an italian-american? should a jamaican american? a polish-american? it is the same for those of us with african distant. we are fully americans but most americans have a dual identity. that is the richness, the beauty , the fabric of the united states being distinct from other nations where they may seek to be monolithic from a religious standpoint, monolithic am a racial or identity standpoint. i would like to thank what unifies us is our values. what unifies us is the values of liberty, justice, and economic opportunity for all regardless of one's background. we are on a journey and i think at the pivot point in this election, very important civil rights, social justice, and economic justice issues. when candidates talk about immigration, that is a social
justice issue. when candidates talk about the minimum wage, it is an economic justice issue. we talk about mass incarceration, it is a social and economic justice issue. we talk about economic growth, it is about making sure that all communities benefit from that economic growth. that is an economic justice issue, a fairness issue. if we want to look at this, i think it is not as simple as it might seem in terms of how we confront and deal with the issue of race in america today. host: up next on our republican line we have walter from butler, indiana. caller: thank you for taking my call. guest: how is that basketball team this year at butler? caller: i am busy watching the snow drop down. just got back from the dominican
republic and i'm am ready to go back for a couple of days. i am out here in the rust belt. i am born and raised new york city. experienced a lot of different things with races of all kinds. live together, work together. positive and negatives. i always found it interesting where election time mostly all the immigrants come to the -- mostly all the democrats come to the lack leaders and tell him they will throw crumbs their way and black leaders go back to the constituents and say this is what they are going to promise us. it seems like you folks have always been disappointed because you always get the short end of the stick. i have a suggestion and this is not being sarcastic or flippant in my remark. , think the bottom line is since we are all americans and we have all had disparities -- my grandmother came through ellis island and she had the newspaper sign that no blacks or irish need apply.
it was a terrible mistake by the white man bringing the black man over here. 200 years later i think the best thing to do with my recommendation to you and your leaders to tell the black people is we cannot depend on the government, we cannot depend on big brother, we cannot depend on the people that sit in the white ivory towers to throw us crumbs. it's time to pull our pants up, put on our boots, stop having babies out of marriage. when the mom says to the young kid that the kid is going out, the mom grabs a wooden spoon like she did for me and tell me to stand up straight. were fathers are not leaving the mothers because that's how they get their extra food stamps and that. that has to be changed because it's ridiculous when i family is struggling that the government says the man cannot be in the house because that is extra income and all of that stuff. host: i want to give mark a chance to respond. guest: i think walter probably, there are things walter is not
aware of. the idea that african americans are somehow hyper dependent on the government is a misnomer and a caricature created by certain political voices. people,ople, like all are hard-working americans getting up every day trying to raise children and families. because people might see some things in the media, i hope they don't think that is a true accurate and complete reflection of who black america is. black america seeks not to be dependent on the government but the government is the collective and the government owes a fair responsibility to guarantee economic opportunity. to guarantee a level playing field to all americans. i believe the government in a owes anocratic society obligation to create a safety net for the most vulnerable
americans. also tools to help people get on their feet. what i will reject is this stereotype that black community is dominated by out of wedlock births. the black community is dominated by people who sit home each day. it is a falsehood and it is actively promoted as a caricature. african-americans don't take away the work that anyone has done to build this country, but african-americans help through the times of slavery in the 1800s when the country was dominantly rural. we were the backbone, the forced labor that built the cotton economy, the sugarcane economy, the tobacco economies of the south and by that created wealth not for ourselves but certainly for others. i think it is important, if you want to have a discussion, you have to make sure that stereotypes don't govern.
what any american is entitled to from its own government is guaranteed fairness, equal protection of the laws. the constitution says it, that is an american value and we will hold government accountable to provide that and it sure that others do the same. host: we are talking about issues in this presidential election that are important to black voters. we are talking with marc morial and up next we have wanda from chattanooga, tennessee. caller: good morning. i was really trying to understand how long had it been since people were put in jail -- i don't know if our people are put in jail but i know most people around here where i live at a lot of people are being put in jail and charged for being in jail, being an absent parent. some men was some women.
-- some men, some women. we can start finding some other who arethin our race absent parents. i was wondering, could they go all the way back through their journey and put those people in jail for child neglect and not paying child support or being involved in their child's life. host: we have a few seconds left. guest: the response would be that one reason criminal justice reform is so important, what she really highlights is in many instances people being incarcerated for minimal, nonviolent offenses and as a result they lose their livelihood. as a result they cannot support their families and support their children. which is why a more compassionate system when dealing with nonviolent offenders, people who may be
involved in possession of small amounts of marijuana or other types of narcotics, should be given an opportunity to avoid incarceration so that they can stay with their families so that they can continue to support their families. that is one of the dynamics we have taken over the last 20 years, many things that were never ever led to jail and because of this policy of get tough on crime we made many offenses that historically did not lead to jail, we made them offenses that required a mandatory minimum sentence in jail and took away from the judge the discretion to try to do things that might be better than jail to help a person keep families together and ensure livelihood. host: marc morial, president and ceo of the national urban league. thank you for joining us.
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primaries and caucuses in south carolina and nevada. we spoke to the politics editor for "the washington examiner." this is 40 minutes. ults. jim antle at our table this morning. politics editor with you washington examiner. i want to show our viewers what the governor nikki haley had to say when she endorsed marco rubio yesterday. [video clip] >> we have good people in this race. we have good people running for president. i thank them today for their sacrifice and they're willing to serve to honor this great country and make her better. but my job was to find the person i thought could do it the best. i wanted somebody with fight my wanted somebody with passion, i wanted somebody who had conviction to do the right thing.
i wanted somebody humble enough that remembers that you work for all the people. i wanted somebody who was going to go and show my parents that the best this vision they ever made for their children was coming to america. made.t decision they ever [applause] every day is a great day in south carolina. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen come if we elect marco rubio come every day will be a great day in america. [applause] help me welcome the next president of the united states, let's go to the polls on saturday and prove that, by the way, marco rubio! [applause] host: what did that due to the race in south carolina? guest: it is a big endorsement
for rubio. nikki haley is popular. her approval rating is high. her personal story, her family history and her relative youth for an elected official reinforced some basic messages in the narrative that marco rubio is looking for to promote his own candidacy. he needs a bit of a boost. he disappointed in new hampshire after a strong showing in iowa. inerally, he is contention for second place but generally behind ted cruz and donald trump. he could use a bit of a boost. for: what does this mean senator ted cruz who has been trying to frame this race as a two-man race between him and donald trump? guest: it is clearly not a two-man race yet. what you are seeing at the moment is ted cruz and marco rubio are fighting for a certain
slice of the conservative electorate. rubio is fighting with jeb bush and john kasich for establishment backing within the republican party. there is a trump versus cruz contest going on for another slice of populist, disaffected republican voters. host: according to the wall , tedt journal nbc poll cruz is now on top nationally. other polls show donald trump is still on top. -- he hasas been ratcheted up his argument, his criticism of donald trump. here's what he had to say recently about donald trump's record on social issues. [video clip] ,> i have to say to mr. trump you have been threatening frivolous lawsuits for your
entire adult life. even in the annals of frivolous lawsuits, this takes the cake. donald, would encourage you come if you want to file a lawsuit challenging this ad, file a lawsuit. it is a remarkable contention that an added that plays video of donald trump speaking on national television is somehow defamation. words come from donald trump's own mouth. if a candidate has a record like donald trump's how he could consider anybody pointing to his actual record being defamation. if he files a lawsuit he threatened in this letter, that
lawsuit will be frivolous and will result in both donald trump and any lawyer that signs his frivolousiling litigation. host: donald trump has pushed back. poll showing ted cruz is making headway come are these attacks working? guest: we saw in iowa that when donald trump is actually attacked and treated like a normal candidate, it does have some effect on his numbers. it has an affect on his favorables. being good disciples of adam smith, they are looking at their comparative advantage. ted cruz is a checklist conservative. he can check all the boxes on the issues and say i have taken conservative positions and voted a conservative way on those issues.
donald trump is more an attitudinal, gut level conservative. he is appealing to an attitude and an anger. trying to attack him on whether he has been consistent on the issues and seeing if you can get some traction there. who hasu have jeb bush put all of his chips in new hampshire and south carolina. according to these polls, he is still not faring well in south carolina, at 4%. what does the endorsement of marco rubio from nikki haley mean for jeb bush? guest: it could conceivably be a changing of the guard. he brought in his brother. he has the support of lindsey graham. we could be seeing a younger ,eneration coming to the fore
which is what marco rubio would like to see. jeb bush needs to do something in satellite. -- south carolina. host: south carolina will decide bush's campaign. if you does not do well, is it over for him? guest: it depends on whether he decides it's over. a lot of voters and owners are willing to make that decision for him. if you does poorly given that he has had some organization there come if you cannot make any impact with the voters there, it will be hard to see how he has any impact going forward. [video clip] >> if we can win in south carolina, we could run the table. i don't know if you saw -- [applause] >> i guess a lot of you have seen, next week in nevada, it will be phenomenal.
bush is 1% in nevada. why doesn't he just give up and go home? go home to mommy. bush is only at 1% in nevada. a couple of them are at 12% and i met 48% -- i am at 48%. host: what has donald trump done to jeb bush's campaign? bush.er lets up on jeb guest: trump clearly views jeb bush as a convenient punching bag. he is a symbol of what trump is running against. jeb bush is a dynasty figure, old money, party establishment. ands symbolic of what trump people who support him argue is a republican leadership that has
failed to deliver. would not have been able to raise $100 million without his family name. the family name with voters has hurt him. , politicalntle editor with the washington examiner here to take your comments and questions about campaign 2016. the democrats caucusing in nevada on saturday. start dialing in. republicans, 202-748-8001. democrats, 202-748-8000. .ndependents, 202-748-8002 michael in new york. independent. caller: i have a comment on donald trump coming in second.
ted cruz would be my second choice. donald trump is a great businessman. greatuz doesn't have that -- i would take donald trump over heavily clin hillary clint. host: how is it shaping up in these hypothetical matchups? if it is donald trump versus hillary clinton or another republican candidate versus hiller clinton or bernie sanders. guest: so far, it doesn't make a huge difference. bernie sanders is slightly outperforming hillary clinton in some of the most recent matchups. really you are seeing a generic partisan vote. byt: does a possible entry
michael bloomberg -- is that a credible strategy for michael bloomberg to get in? could human and independent bid -- could he win an independent bid? guest: he said it is difficult to win if you are not a major party candidate. he got elected in new york the first time as a republican. bloomberg would have some degree of constituency. mostlyd be competing with hillary clinton's basin vote. -- a base vote. host: does it help republicans? guest: it would marginally help republicans. bloomberg would draw more votes
from the republicans. host: tim in abingdon, virginia. democrat. crazy, crazyis politics we've got going on this year. i kind of like bernie sanders. there's a lot of problems in our country we could fix with just common sense. we need our troops on the border. security,ix social take 50% of the earned income tax credit and put that on social security. that would more than pay for health care in this country. minimum wage, raise it, but wait until they are 18 years old. better.hings get thank you for c-span. host: jim antle, what is it looking like heading into nevada for democrats this saturday
between hillary clinton and bernie sanders? is a state where hillary clinton has been favored. it will be a relatively low turnout caucus. bernie sanders has been making some headway. the two groups you want to watch our latino voters who should be heavilydeliver hel for hillary clinton whereas union voters will be big for the nevada democrats. where do they go? union leadership has been favoring clinton, but there's a lot of support for sanders in union rank-and-file. host: that could be why they say they will hold off on a presidential endorsement. bernie.a big win for guest: it is a big win for bernie. there's a desire among union leadership to coalesce around hillary clinton to get onboard th