tv U.S. House of Representatives Morning Hour CSPAN February 25, 2016 10:00am-12:01pm EST
-- help us and will consume sums of money in this redundant -- hopelessly redundant program. it's dangerous because of the cuts in the nuclear nonproliferation program of over $100 billion -- $100 million. i mean, these are real threats to our security. we're battling isis now. now, they have already obtained material rade nuclear in a facility near mosul. we had a few nuclear weapons gone missing, other nuclear materials unaccounted for or stolen. we need to have these proven programs to reduce the inventory, track it down and take it out of circulation. we should be expanding them,
not cutting them back. it continues an overall trillion-dollar spending that we're going to have on the nuclear programs over the course of the next 30 years. these are resources that are going to be at the expense of our conventional weapons. as i mentioned, these -- the nuclear tried a is far more than we need to deter anybody in the world right now and are -- do not help us with the strategic challenges that we face today. it's not going to prevent russian adventurism in the ukraine or crimea, but it will result in our having to cannibalize the guard and ready reserve, the army. it will be paying the price for this. these are conventional forces that have paid the price for
the last two decades of activities and are going to be needed for both deterrence and god forbid actual activity in the future. we cannot do all of this within the current budget horizon. the budget gimmicks ignore that. we have a little trust fund with the overseas contingency account that ignores budget realities that we're not going to be able to continue in perpetuity. we ignore the long-term costs of budget programs for weapons, preferring to put that off to a future administration and future congresses. and in so doing, we're playing fast and loose with the integrity of the pentagon, with the resources and the materials that are necessary to support our troops now and in the
future. it's not too late for this congress to demand a spending plan, cost accountability, kill the new cruise missile program and put us on a path of fiscal stability and sanity while we have appropriate priorities for the military strength and defense of our country. thank you and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the chair recognizes mr. holding for five minutes. mr. holding: i rise and recognize george. he lived a long and full life. the eldest of four children. he attended st. mary's school in oak ridge, north carolina, and during the second world war, george served in the pacific. after the war, george returned home to work in the family
business, which was originally established back in the 1890's by two prominent north carolina families to market local produce, chickens and seed and eggs. and the business was successful and in the 1920's, george's father and uncle took over the business, renaming it jeffries and sons and the two brothers began offering beverage distribution and after the end of prohibition became a licensed distributor for an hicer busch products and the company was so big that it was divided into separate seed beverage and cabinet companies and it continued to expanding in gulfsboro, greensboro and today it is the oldest an hicer-busch distributor in north carolina as well as the oldest family distributers in the united states. the distributing company has services almost every grocery store, convenient store and
restaurant in the area supplying 36 counties in north carolina. george jeffries was not only respected a as a business leader. he was a thoughtful leader to his community, volunteering, contributing to local schools, scouts and church programs. in addition to his companies being recognizing multiple times as an outstanding wholesaler by an hicer-busch. he received the distinguished -- an highser busch, he received the distinguished award. his dedication to business and to his community from -- were certainly highlights of his life. but the true foundations of george jeffries' life was his family. his wife, lucy, and his three children, daughters lee and ellen and his son, robert, and his seven grandchildren, will all remember him with love. mr. speaker, i'm honored to call george jeffries a friend, and i pray for god's blessings and god's peace to his family.
with that i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the chair recognizes the gentleman from massachusetts, mr. mcgovern, for five minutes. mr. mcgovern: i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, last week during our district work period i spent the night at the interfaith hospitality network, a family homeless shelter in worcester, massachusetts. this was my second time spending a night there in recent years. it was a wonderful opportunity to hear firsthand the stories of families who are facing tough times and to see the incredible support provided by groups like i.h.n. and today's meeting on environment, where every development in the presidential campaign gets a breaking news banner, it's easy to lose sight of homeless families. in 2015 more than 500,000 americans were homeless on any given night. more than 200,000 were people in families and nearly 50,000 were veterans.
even in massachusetts, which is one of the richest states in the nation, homelessness continues to be a challenge in many of our communities. in recent years, state budget cuts have led to a record number of homeless children in massachusetts, and the overall uptick in homelessness has led to overcrowding in shelters, with thousands of families being turned away. in the richest country on the planet, it is simply astonishing that anyone is homeless, but the fact is this continues to be a persistent problem. unfortunately, there are amazing organizations like the interfaith hospitality network, that are making a difference. i. tmplet h.n. works in partnership with the faith community to provide shelter to children who are homeless. their primary goals is to assist families and increasing their income and help them secure permanent housing while providing critical support services necessary for them to succeed. it's a community bed shelter that provides private bedrooms and shared quality living areas
for six families at a time who are homeless but don't qualify for state funded shelters. one of the points that the people i met made very eloquently was that sometimes life is very complicated and sometimes things don't work out as you expect them to. many of the families that i met during my stay included at least one working parent, but they had fallen into the gap where they earned too little to make ends meet but too much to qualify for other housing assistance programs. some of the residents included college-educated parents with families that fell on hard times. maybe a parent is sick or a child is sick or a parent got laid off from a job. those families are not there because they made poor choices. there were a series of events that led to this. one thing parents at the shelter have in common is they love their kids more than anything and they are working tirelessly to get back on their feet. the families at i.h.n. are not charged rent and work with a caseworker to budget and save
money for their own apartments. the caseworker also helps families access necessary health care or counseling, learn job skills, enroll in job training or educational classes and assist them with other life issues. mr. speaker, i.h.n. is a very special place. it's a home. it's comfort. it's safe. families prepare and eat dinner together. children do their home work together. color in coloring books and play games. i.h.n. provides a sense of normalcy during these times of turmoil and unsirnt for these families. -- uncertainty for these families. with each visit to i.h.n., i am inspired to see in our community there are so many wonderful people who care about their neighbors who are going through difficult times and who want to get back on their feet. the volunteers and staff are incredible people. places like i.h.n. represent the best of our community, and there is a real need for places like this. too often in this chamber i have heard colleagues demonize and disparage america's poorest
families. but those who are homeless don't fit into a stereotype. every family faces different challenges. it's hard work to be poor in america, and the families i met are working hard for a better life for their kids. we should be helping them get back on their feet, not kicking them while they're down, and certainly we should not be indifferent for their struggles. we must do more at the national level to better address homelessness and food insecurity and poverty and many other issues which deserve to be front and center. looking at the big picture, we need to be talking about how we can make sure that work pays enough so that all working families can afford rent and a place to live and be able to put food on the table for their kids. we might start by increasing at long last the federal minimum wage so that it's a livable wage. if you work in this country, you ought not -- ought not to be poor and you certainly ought not to be homeless.
mr. speaker, in the richest country on the planet, i know we can do more to solve homelessness. spending the night at the interfaith hospitality center was learning experience and i encourage all my colleagues to do the same in their districts. those of us who serve in congress are blessed we don't have to worry about whether or not we have a roof over our heads on any given night, but there are many families, too many families all throughout our country who do. we need to do a better job listening to their stories, of trying to lend a helping hand so they can get out of their difficult situation and move on to a better life. and i urge my colleagues to listen to what i said today and to do what i did and spend a night in a shelter in their own district. i yield back my time. . the speaker pro tempore: the chair will recognize the gentleman from west virginia, mr. jenkins, for five minutes. mr. jenkins: thank you, mr. speaker. the war on coal touches every
family in my home state of west virginia. whether you're a miner or not, you feel the consequences of this administration's regulations that are shutting down our coal mines. closing a coal mine doesn't just affect a miner and his family, it affects everyone in the community. from the small town mom and pop stores who depend on customers, to our schools who depend on tax revenue. decline in coal hurts us all. stacey walls contacted me. she's a wife of a coal miner and a mother in boone county. she sees the consequences firsthand and here's what she wrote me. my husband has been laid off four times since last april. because of the war on coal, my county is closing my son's school due to not having coal
tax revenues that help keep it open. my son's education is now going to suffer because of the war on coal. i've watched my families leave the state because they must find work. these are more -- there are more sale signs up than there are kids riding their bikes. this, mr. speaker, is stacey. this is stacey's family. these are the true faces of the war on coal. west virginia's families deserve peace of mind. it's time for the e.p.a. to get off the backs of west virginians and let them do the work that powers our nation and puts food on our tables. i'm working every day in congress for our coal families, for all families.
i believe in the future of west virginia coal. president obama must stop his war on coal, and we must pass policies that create jobs to ensure a future for west virginians in west virginia. mr. speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the chair will now recognize the gentleman from connecticut, mr. arsen, for five minutes. mr. -- mr. larson: unanimous consent to speak for five minutes. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. larson: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, i rise today to commend the bipartisan policy center for the establishment of the congressional patriot award. and naming sam johnson and john
lewis as its first recipients. people who of no two are more deserving than sam johnson and john lewis. both who serve in this chamber with distinction. both who i have the honor of serving with on the ways and means committee. who do an extraordinary job on behalf of the citizenry of this great nation. for all of our membership here, we can all be proud to say that we served with both sam johnson and john lewis. i want to thank and commend tom cole, my chairman, co-chairman, in this effort on behalf of our two esteemed colleagues. by now every member should have received and the public will become increasingly aware of an invitation to this event on march 15.
the event will be held at the library of congress. at a fitting place for us to honor our colleagues. and the library will have on display photos and documents from the vietnam war and photos and documents from the civil rights movement. it was 50 years ago that sam johnson was shot down over vietnam. it was 51 years ago that john lewis made that historic trek from selma to montgomery and crossing over the edmund pettus bridge. most people don't realize today hat sam johnson was imprisoned by the viet kong for seven years .
42 of them he spent in solitary confinement. nearly beaten to death, but never said a word. what an incredible american. and john lewis, nearly beaten to death by the alabama police as had he the temerity to lock arms and cross the edmund pettus bridge and faced with undaunted courage an unwelcoming crowd who could never deter the will of a movement that he is so identified with. so to have the bipartisan policy center recognize a conservative, a progressive, a republican, a serve this le who nation extraordinarily with their patriotism, long before
they ever got here. to have a medal named in their honor and to present that once in a biennium to deserving members of this body past and present is a great notion. it demonstrates to the american people that at the end of the day it's not about conservative or liberal, or it's not about democrat or republican, it's about the great nation that we serve. there are no more exemplary figures than sam johnson and john lewis. john mccain will be presenting on behalf of sam johnson. no one understands what sam johnson endured better than senator john mccain. andrew young will be speaking on behalf of john lewis. he was a long -- alongside john lewis during that historic
march. no one knows better what they endured. we are so fortunate to both have the library of congress, but also to have david rubenstein who will be there who will conduct an interview that evening with sam and john lewis. it will be a wonderful evening. made more special by what the library of congress will present in terms of what transpired 50 and 51 years ago respectively, but made greater by the presence of everybody here recognizing the great contribution of your colleagues, sam johnson and john lewis. i yield back my time and look forward to having everybody on march 15 at the library of congress to recognize these two great american heroes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the chair recognizes the gentleman from arkansas, mr. hill, for five minutes. for ll: mr. speaker,
recently freed african-americans, education denied them under slavery was a critical component of understanding freedom. in the wake of the civil war, with the widespread awareness that education was essential to the advancement of a free people in this society, african-americans flocked to schools established by the friedman's bureau. the recognition of this relationship between schools, community, and the broader ideal of the american dream led african-american parents and teachers to be among the first southerners to advocate for universal public education. however, the dual education system that arose determined by race and based on the fiction of separate but equal brought about a hand-me-down approach to black education in the south. this flawed duality resulted in
the perpetuation and exaser bation of institutional inequity. in the face of such obstacle, leaders like booker t. washington, founder of the tuskegee institute, embraced and expanded on the early belief that an education, the great hope of a truly democratic society, rests. washington's vision inspired many, including philanthropist and president of sears roebuck, juiceous rosen walled -- rosen dwald. this led to the construction of 5,000 rosenwald schools across 15 southern states. in arkansas, 389 school buildings were constructed in 45 of our 75 counties. with communities pooling their often meager resources to fulfill the pledge to match their contribution. for many, these buildings were
not simply schools but monuments to black achievement and symbols for an ardent hope and a better future. the schools distribute contributed to the education of thousands of african-american students across the american south, including notable figures like arkansas poet, maya angelo, and our own esteemed colleague and friend, john lewis of georgia. in 1954, with the u.s. supreme court decision in brown vs. board of education, to which julius rosenwald contribute 1/3 of the costs. his carefully crafted schools became obsolete. in arkansas the tensions behind this great achievement played out in the tumultuous 1957 little rock central high crisis. the courageous determination of the little rock nine harkens back to that fundamental belief in education equals freedom. this is the continuing legacy of washington, and the countless
parents and teachers who were determined to give future generations the means of mobility, economic advancement, opportunity. in 2002, the national trust for historic preservation listed rosenwald schools as one of america's most 11 endangered places. today in arkansas, only 18 of those original school buildings remain. and one of those remaining buildings is in the second congressional district. the only school to be built in perry county, the biga low -- bigalow school was constructed in 1926. after 38 years of service towards education, the school was transformed into a community center. with the revival of interest in and knowledge about the schools, efforts are being formed around the country to restore these embodyments of our history -- embodiments of our history.
a documentary pays tribute to the man, work, and rippling impact of evolution on african-american education in this contry. as we celebrate black history month, i rise to recognize how far we've come, how far we still must traverse, and pay official salute to julius rosenwald and his contributions to the advancement of education. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the chair will recognize the gentleman from california, mr. costa, for five minutes. mr. costa: i ask unanimous consent to address the house for five minutes. revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. i rise : mr. speaker, today to bring attention again to the devastating drought that has impacted california for over four years. you know, much is said about california and the success that we have had post-world war ii, but a lot of it is owed to the fact that we have developed a water system, both a federal and state water project, that allows
us to move water throughout california for beneficial use to every region of california. and that has been a great success. but today that water system is broken. it's broken because it was designed to meet the needs of 20 million people and the agriculture that we had in the 1960's and 1970's. today we have over 40 million people in california. we have more intensive agriculture, producing half the nation's fruits and vegetables. leading agricultural state in the nation. and demands for water for the environment that was not part of the projects in the beginning. so i have and will continue to make a priority to speak on the house floor regularly regarding the devastating drought impacts that -- and will attempt to offer solutions both for the state and federal agencies to maximize our ability to move water through the system where it is most needed to ensure that we also make the changes at the
federal level and at the state level to fix this magnificent but broken water system today that no longer can meet all of the demands and needs that are subscribed for it. . four million people with four of my other colleagues. we worry every day about job security and the san joaquin valley which are directly dependent upon access to reliable and secure supply of water that is high quality. the people of the valley and the entire state of california have been directly impacted by this devastating drought in one way or another and there are many examples of how the san joaquin valley has been impacted, the place that i represent. over 600,000 acres of productive agriculture land has been fallowed, unplanted.
the lan in the san joaquin valley is subsidizing because families, out of devastating need, are drilling deeper wells to meet their everyday needs to eep their wetland they can productive. but pumping groundwater at unsustainable rates to avoid this catastrophic impact is pulling millions of gallons of water out of the underground supply. unemployment in the san joaquin valley is twice as high as the rest of the country. and in 2015 alone, california lost $2.2 billion as a result of the drought. these devastating impacts have brought many of us to pray for rain and snow in the mountains, but that's not enough. we need to fix this broken water system. and while we'll continue to hope for the el nino year to bring additional rainfall amounts that are significantly greater than average, we know that that's not enough. with above-average rainfall and
snow in the mountains, san joaquin valley communities and farmers can't -- can now rest easy, right? no. no, sadly. since october 1, 2015, over 3.4 million acre-feet of water has gone out into the ocean. that is water that could be used in the valley and in southern california. this is nearly 1.1 trillion gallons of water. to put it as an example, the average american uses 400 gallons of water a day. my point is only a small amount of water is being pumped out of the delta to move south for the san joaquin valley, for the farm communities as well as for southern california. and we have yet to recover from the devastating impacts of the drought over the last four years, even though we got more water this year as a result of the el nino conditions. the u.s. bureau of reclamation announced recently that even with well-above average rainfall, reservoirs in california are still below the
15-year average for this time of year. and there is no federal water stored in a major reservoir in the san joaquin valley, the san luis reservoir, that would be available for water this summer. yet, this week we were devastated to hear that the bureau of reclamation is releasing 200,000 acre week out of fulsom lake because of flood control purposes, and we're not moving that water, not even 100,000 acre-feet of water through that system. that's just not right. that is directly due to state and federal agencies unwillingness to pump water at the maximum levels under the biological opinions that many of us believe are flawed because the science is at least 10 years old. and while weather patterns have had a great impact on the delivery of water over the last four years, it's only been one of the impacts. we must make a difference. we must fix this broken water system. and i will continue to update the members of the house on the challenges we face on
legislation that is important to do just that. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the chair will now recognize the gentleman from illinois, mr. dold, for five minutes. mr. dold: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. dold: mr. speaker, on the occasion of his retirement on february 29 of this year, i rise to thank allen bowles for over 32 years of outstanding service to the united states house of representatives. allen began his career in the labor division on september 1, 1983. shortly after that, he worked as a storeroom clerk. it was not long after he made his way into the cabinet shop and began his rapid ascent through the ranks from apprentice to journeyman cabinet maker. allen can be proud of the many projects that were successfully completed during his tenure. some of these projects include custom cabinets made for
speaker wright and members in the leadership such as mr. hoyer, mr. army and ms. pelosi. allen's list of accomplishments is indeed long and over 32 years has produced some of the most exemplary and useful projects. many of which are still being utilized today. allen's cabinet making expertise and craftsmanship are evident in his body of work. he's worked tirelessly alongside other house employees to make the house more secure following the events of september 11 and the anthrax incident of 2001. allen's reputation in the shop for light-hearted humor and quit wit made for long-lasting friendships and camaraderie in the shop. he brought unique brand of comedy and teamwork to the cabinet shop which serves the house from behind the scenes. he made a long-term commitment to excellence and improved services to this house community. in addition, allen's dedication to his craft and customer service skills made him an
extremely valuable member of the service team. allen has dedicated his life to making the c.a.o. and the united states house of representatives a better place. after his retirement from the house, allen plans to enjoy country living, fishing and hunting, he also plans to keep busy working in his own shop in southern maryland. on behalf of the entire house community, i extend our congratulations to allen bowles for his dedication and outstanding contributions to the united states house of representatives. we wish him many wonderful years in fulfilling his retirement years. mr. speaker, on the occasion of his retirement on march 3, 2016, i rise to thank anthony thompson. for over 34 years of service of outstanding service to the united states house of representatives. anthony began his career with the house in november of 1981 as an apprentice cabinet maker in the house cabinet shop.
over the next 34 years, he was promoted to various positions to include lead cabinet maker, or the third man, assistant foreman and eventually became manager of the house cabinet shop. anthony's accomplishments are far too lengthy to list in this tribute. however, there are two examples of his contributions that are worthy of recognition. anthony designed and constructed the first offsite house floor furniture set, which may be used, heaven forbid, in the event that the house chamber is unavailable for use. he's been instrumental in the design and construction of all the succeeding sets of furniture as well. he was involved in the design and construction of the house table. enographer's the table was designed with new technology in mind while still matching the original look of the existing dias. on an important note, anthony
has dedicated his life to making the c.a.o. and the united states house of representatives a better place. he's passed along his many years of cabinet making experience to staff and co-workers so they can continue the extremely high standards of quality craftsmanship that have come to be expected of the house cabinet shop. upon his retirement, he plans to use his extraordinary talents, continuing to make beautiful, one-of-a-kind pieces of furniture for the private sector. on behalf of the entire house community, we extend our congratulations to anthony for his many years of dedication and outstanding contributions to the united states house of representatives. i'm honored to call him a friend, and i wish him all the best in the years to follow. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the chair will recognize the gentleman from illinois, mr. davis, for five minutes. mr. davis: i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. davis: thank you, mr.
speaker. i rise to highlight and pay tribute to one of chicago's most effective public schools, the andrew jackson language academy. andrew jackson was opened in 1894 to serve children from the crowded community surrounding the polk street station, a port of entry for immigrants. that very same year, one of the first public school kindergartens was established in chicago. since 1981, this school has offered foreign language instruction to its students. in 1988, andrew jackson language academy moved into a new up-to-date facility. the building is equipped with science and computer labs, a library, media center and a large outside area for play and gardening activities. today, 550 students from
diverse, racial, ethnic and religious backgrounds attend the school. students at jackson receive extensive instruction in chinese, french, italian, japanese and spanish. the curriculum not only emphasizes the skill of understanding using these languages, but also introduce students to the geography, history and tradition of other cultures. as a result, students are more adequately prepared for the international marketplace and for success in the 21st century . the andrew jackson language academy is a well-organized, safe and orderly school with an excellent student code of conduct. and the dress code has been developed to promote a suitable learning environment. jackson language academy has a
wealth of school spirit, which is promoted through the merit club, family reading night, project backpack for the homeless, musical performances, student ambassadors, big sisters and big brothers, chinese painting workshop, french and italian shops are ongoing. japanese students are learning to work in class and spanish students from kindergarten through eighth grade are working hard on building their spanish skills. the dads club at jackson is very active and sponsors a number of family events, such as the annual basketball fundraiser, family skate night, the daddy-daughter dance and a number of other ways for dads to be involved. the andrew jackson language academy has a very strong and actively engaged local school council. its chairperson is ms. angela
bryant, principal ms. mary lu, secretary ms. margaret kempster, members, mr. kevin lopez, ms. clara maxwell, ms. tara roden, mr. jeff, mr. louis and mr. steffen smith. the parents council at jackson language academy is actively engaged and involved, led by heather alvarez, vice president, president ruby alvarez. ecording secretary, emily, pamela. i commend and congratulate all of those who work to make and keep the andrew jackson learning academy the great chicago public school that it is. someone, perhaps a philosopher, once said, it takes great souls to make great schools, and we thank all of those who have
been involved in making the andrew jackson language academy the great school that it is. it takes great souls to make great schools, and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the chair will recognize the gentleman from minnesota, mr. emmer, for five minutes. mr. emmer: mr. speaker, i rise today in remembrance of fallen st. joseph, minnesota, police officer brian kline felter. it's been 20 years now since brian was killed in the line of duty, and this loss is still felt in our community today. on a cold night in january, officer klinefelter was nearing the end of his shift when he heard of an armed robbery over the radio dispatch and decided to help his fellow officers pursue the robbers. not long after, officer klinefelter was tragically shot
and killed in his brave attempt to protect his colleagues and the community he loved. the men and women in blue are some of the finest this nation has to offer and officer brian klinefelter is proof of that. every morning they put on their uniforms not knowing if they will safely return to their loved ones at the the sacrifices they make are done because of their selfless love of country, community and their neighbors. the night brian was killed he left behind his wife wendy and his newborn daughter caitlyn along with numerous family members and friends. wendy and caitlyn, we haven't forgotten you and we have not forgotten brian. the incredible life he lived and the brave sacrifice that he made. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the chair will recognize the gentlewoman from texas, ms.
jackson lee, for five minutes. ms. jackson lee: i thank the speaker. this morning i spent some time and last evening communicating with leaders of my transit system, houston metro, that has received numerous awards and i applaud them for working very hard, sometimes gets odds, to provide mobility for the great citizens of the houston-harris county metroplex area. but i had a particular issue that we had been working on since last november. and that is to give disabled veterans in this very vast territory of texas the ability to ride on what we call the h.o.t. lanes for free.
and my premise is simple. when we ask our men and women in the united states to put the uniform on, we ask them with no qualifications, meaning no restraints, that they are expected to defend the united states to the utmost. and in the course of that, some fall in battle. lose their lives. or are veterans who ultimately come to their demise by their age and illnesses. and therefore i think it is enormously important that when they make a request that helps them in their mobility, whether it is to doctors offices and family or going back to school, there should be no barriers, no restraints. so today my metro board are meeting and i made contact again, as i did this past week, with the committee late into the
night to say that there should be no delay, no barrier in allowing those lanes to be used for free by disabled vets. i want this in the record because i will pursue and persist even to the extent that an emergency board meeting will need to be called. there just simply is no reason to delay. november, december, january, february, and near march there is no reason to delay. i am waiting for the decision and i will look forward to the disabled vets of america and others reaching out to my office so that together collectively we can make sure that not only does this happen in houston, texas, but it should be a policy across america. we should find a way to be able to assist those who have willingly and without any hesitancy and unselfishly put on the uniform. i want to turn the attention of my colleagues to another issue
of justice and that is the fair existence and respect of the three branches of government. this involves vets and nurses and schools and schoolteachers and families across america. it is a process that the congress goes through every year . we call it the budgeting process. and it is an act of congress and the administration. we hope working together. and that is the time that the congress works on the plan for the american people. and it is, of course, the time when the president works on the plan for the american people. it plus reports like this, an economic report of the president. it includes the budget which is a road map for the american people. let me be very clear. we are all elected. but there is one person in this instance one man that has been
leekted by all of the people -- elected by all of the people, and he has submitted a budget and i would not imagine in my tenure in congress that we would have this congress overlook a 41-year tradition to the american people on your behalf, whether you are for it or against it, the right of the representative of the president, in this instance sean donovan, the president's budget director, to make his presentation before the united states congress. if i was not standing on this floor, mr. speaker, i might simply break down and cry because i love this institution. i love the constitutional processes documented in the constitution of the three separate branches of government. and we have often disagreed, but we have and should never disrespect. g. william hogland who was a senate budget director, now
senior vice president of the policy center, could not recall a year since the budget process took effect in the 1970's when a president's budget director was not invited to testify, republican or democrat, while the last budget of an outgoing president is usually aspirational and sets a theme for what he or she hopes will be ollowed up by. it is not and has not been a time to not see the president's budget. the president's budget has stood for education and job creation and national security and it does not cut as the republican budget does, mr. speaker, 46%, 46% in education. -- is our cliegality cliegal it -- collegial it. shame on us. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. pursuant to clause 1-a of rule one, the chair declares the house in recess until noon
mr. sanders: when millions of people come together an they stand up and say, you know what, in america men and women have fought and died. and as the former chairman of the veterans senate committee, hi the opportunity to meet with some great heroes. you know what they did? they put their lives on the line from world war ii on up to defend american member dempsey. now -- democratcy. now, we take democracy for granted, but the truth is democracy is a very, very radical idea. what that means is that in the course of world history almost always you had a king or queen or a czar. those guys made the decisions. you go off to war, i said you're going off to war. you are paying taxes. i made that decision, it doesn't matter what you think or what happens to your life. what democracy is about is saying that all of us together
have the right to determine the future of this contry. [applause] -- country. cheers and applause] senator sanders: in the last election in november, 2014, 63% of the american people didn't vote. 80% of young people didn't vote. and what happens when ordinary people working people, low-income people, middle class people, young people don't vote, that political back vume -- vacuum is build by wealthy campaign contributors -- is filled by wealthy campaign contributors and lobbyists who say, hey, this is grafmente young people aren't voting. that is fantastic. we can now make the decisions for this country.
older people are not voting. that's great. because the world changes when you have a handful of billionaires making the decisions as opposed to ordinary americans making decisions. cheers and applause] senator sanders: what this campaign is about is calling for a political revolution. what that means, what that means is no president, not bernie sanders, or anybody else can do it alone. why is that? ill tar heel you why, and this is the truth that -- i'll tell you why, and this is the truth that many politicians will not tell you. the truth is that wall street, corporate america, the corporate media, large campaign donors have so much influence over the political and economic system of our country today that no
president, not the best intentioned in the world, can take them on. the only way we take them on is when millions of people, black and white and latino and native americans and asian americans, gay, straight, men, and women when people stand up -- cheers and applause] senator sanders: and when they demand something that is not really terribly radical, when they demand that the united states government starts representing ordinary americans rather than wealthy campaign contributors. when that happens we transform america. that's what this campaign is about. if [applause]
now, over the last 9 1/2 months, since we began this campaign, a lot has changed. when i began the campaign, what the pundits were saying, bernie, you comb your hair really great. you wear your g.q. outfit. you have all the requirements to be the president, but, two things. two things. number one, to run for president in this day and age you need a huge, and i say huge, amount of money. just need hundreds of millions of dollars if not more than that. we made a decision early on, a very important decision, which distinguishes my campaign from my opponent's campaign. what we said is, we do not represent the billionaire class. we do not represent corporate
america. we do not represent wall street. we do not want their money. we are not going to have a super p.a.c. cheers and applause] senator sanders: that's a great speech to give. the next question is how do you raise the money you need to run a winning campaign? thank you very much. the answer is grassroots. that's right. [cheers and applause] senator sanders: so we did something that is unprecedent the in politics today. what we said is, look, we are not going to go to billionaires' homes and raise millions of dollars, we are going to ask middle class and working families of this country for the help. you know what's happened in the last nine months? we have received over four
million individual contribute shins. -- contributions. [cheers and applause] senator sanders: and that is more than any candidate in the history of this country up to this point. cheers and applause] senator sanders: you know what the average campaign contribution is? 7 bucks! and all of the political geniuses out there, they are figuring out, they are saying how can it be? how can you actually run a winning campaign with an average contribution of $27? i think what people are saying
is not only are they supportive of what we are fighting for, but they are saying something else. they are saying, we are going to do everything that we can to make sure that billionaires do not buy elections in the united states of america. cheers and applause] i'll tell you what else has been going on. when we began the campaign, we were at 3% in the polls. very few people outside of my own state of vermont actually knew who i was, let alone what we were fighting for. we have come a long way in the last nine months. in the last week or so there were three national polls that actually had us in the lead. cheers and applause]
senator sanders: when you do some these polls, which has bernie sanders against trump or hillary clinton against trump, almost all of those polls have us beating trump by wider margins. [cheers and applause] now, ohio, as you all know, is one of the important political states in this country. you're having a primary here on march 15. with your help we can win this primary and help us go forward to victory. [applause] senator sanders: now, i think the reason that we have come so
far and are doing so well is pretty simple. we're oing something, -- doing something very, very radical. we're telling the american people the truth. now i know that is a radical idea, but, hey -- and that is at we are saying is, look, before this country, before any country is you got to really look honestly at the problems and the realities even if they are unpleasant realities. you know, unless you lock what goes on, you don't have a foundation in which to go forward. and what we have been doing in this campaign is listening to ordinary people, not just big money contributors. we are listening to millions of workers in this country who are telling us they cannot make it n $9 or $10 an hour.
and i have been proud to be on picket lines with fast food workers who are saying just that, saying, you know, we have families to raise, we can't do it on 10 bucks an hour. we need decent health care, and i have been proud to stand with them in the fight for $15 an hour and the right to organize a union. so when we talk about america and we understand the massive levels of income and wealth inequality. are the top where the top .1% owns as much wealth as the bottom 90% in america.
we can create an economy where if you work 40 hours a week you are not living in poverty. and in the wealthiest country in the history of the world, we should not be having millions of senior citizens and disabled eterans trying to scrape by on $11,000 or $12,000 a year social security. i just want you for a moment put yourself in the place of that 80-year-old, 90-year-old person, health care needs, prescription drug needs, got to keep your home warm in the wintertime. go home and do the arithmetic and see what happens when you
receive $11,000 or $12,000 a year. a country, a great country is judged not by how many millionaires and billionaires it has but on how it treats the weakest and most vulnerable mongst us. cheers and applause] senator sanders: that is -- that is what a great nation is about and that is what every religion in the world, christianity, judaism, islam, buddhism, that's what they tell us. they tell us morally we cannot be human beings if we turn our backs on people sleeping out on he streets or children who are
hungry. cheers and applause] and what being human is about is i've got four great kids and seven beautiful grandchildren. i want you to worry and be concerned about my kids and my grandchildren and i will worry about you and your kids and your grandchildren. that's a society. cheers and applause] and as i go around the country and i talk to young people, what they are saying is, why is that we are leaving college $50,000 in debt? why is it we are being punished
for what crime? the crime of trying to get a good education? we shouldn't be punished for that. cheers and applause] so what this campaign is about is asking everybody in america -- think outside of the box. just think for a second. everybody here knows that if our country is to do well, now and in the future, we need the best educated work force in the world, right? everybody knows that. we want to encourage. we want to encourage people to get a higher education. we want to make it easier for those people who are not going to college to learn how to become plumbers and carpenters and sheet metal workers. a lot of good jobs out there.
[cheers and applause] we should not be punishing people. we should be rewarding people ho want to get an education. this is not a radical concept. it is what other countries are already doing. you go to germany, college education is free. i was in a meeting in washington last year and i was giving a speech and i said, well, you know, in scandinavia by and large college education is free. and some guy jumped up and said, no, senator. you're wrong. i'm from finland. you're wrong. it's not free. they actually pay us to go to college. but here's the point. thinking outside of the box if we want a strong economy, i
want to encourage people to felt all the education they -- have all having the education they need without having to worry about paying off their debt. when talking to people, this campaign is listening to women and women are asking us -- cheers and applause] senator sanders: women are asking us, why is it that we ake 79 cents on the dollar compared to men? why is that? and if we are african-american women, the discrepancy is even wider. and that is why i know that every man in this room will stand with the women in the fight for pay equity.
[cheers and applause] senator sanders: every psychologist who studies the issue tells us that the most formative years, the most important years of a human being's life are zero to 4. that's when we develop emotionally and splectually and all over this country moms and dads -- intellectually and all over this country moms and dads come up and say, how is it that these four years are so important -- mom is working, dad is working, why can't we find high-quality, affordable childcare? cheers and applause]
senator sanders: as a country we should have a world-class pre-k childcare system, and together we're going to develop that system. cheers and applause] senator sanders: and to the now, young men, young women, i hope you will give some thought to going into childcare, to fighting to make sure that childcare workers have a career they're proud of, they earn god wages and good benefits for doing some of the most important work in america. [cheers and applause] senator sanders: and when we listen to people, we are listening to our brothers and sisters in the african-american community.
and they are asking us -- they are asking us, why is it that see on television unarmed african-americans being shot by police officers? [cheers and applause] senator sanders: now, i was a mayor, mayor of the city of burlington, vermont. anybody here from vermont? all right. a few. we're a small state. all right. and i was mayor of the largest city there for eight years and i worked closely with the police. and the vast overwhelming majority of police officers are hardworking people, honest people trying to do a very, very difficult job. that's right. [applause] senator sanders: and by the way, by the way, when we talk about young people thinking about careers, we need some great police officers out
there. think about law enforcement. but -- and here is the but. like any other public official, if a police officer breaks the law, that officer must be held accountable. [cheers and applause] senator sanders: i have talked to people in the african-american community, community with ph.d.'s who say, you know, if i'm driving across the country, i get kind of nervous. i get kind of nervous and the reason for that is that african-americans are stopped a lot more for traffic issues than are whites. we have got to take on this issue of institutional racism and a broken criminal justice
system. cheers and applause] senator sanders: that is why i believe -- and, again, i speak as a former mayor -- that we have to demilitaryize local olice departments -- demilitarize local police departments. some of these local police departments look like occupying armies. what the function of a good police department is about is to be part of the community, to be trusted by the community, not to be seen as an oppressive force in the community. cheers and applause] senator sanders: and we need to
make police departments look like the diversity of the communities they are serving. cheers and applause] senator sanders: we also need o take a whole lot of looks at criminal justice, in general. for example, we need to rethink the so-called war on drugs. cheers and applause] senator sanders: over the last 30 years, millions of americans have received police records for possession of marijuana. right now under the federal controlled substance act, marijuana is listed as a schedule 1 drug, alongside of
heroin. [audience booing] senator sanders: now, i trust everybody in this room knows -- this is a real problem in my state, in new hampshire and around this country, heroin is a killer drug. stay away from it! cheers and applause] senator sanders: now, there are people and scientists who argue the pluses and the minuses of marijuana, but no sensible person believes that marijuana is anything like heroin and that's why i believe -- now, that is why i believe we should take marijuana out of the federal controlled substance act.
[cheers and applause] senator sanders: stays -- states have the right to legalize marijuana or not. that's a state decision, but from the federal perspective, possession of marijuana should ot be a crime. [cheers and applause] senator sanders: when we talk about criminal justice, let me make some connections here. it's not only that we are dealing with institutional racism, it's we are dealing with a situation where youth unemployment in this country is off the charts. no one talks about it very much. but here's the facts. if a kid is 17 to 20 years of age, graduated high school and white, that kid is 33% of
those white kids are unemployed or underemployed. if that kid is latino, the number is 36%. if that kid is african-american, that number is 51% unemployed or underemployed. [audience booing] senator sanders: so are you ready for a radical idea? [cheers and applause] senator sanders: together, we have got to invest in education and jobs, not jails and incarceration. cheers and applause] senator sanders: we are pending -- we are spending $80 2.2 on a year to lock up
million americans. in my view, it makes a lot more sense to send a young person to the university of ohio than lock them up. t's a lot cheaper. [applause] senator sanders: and when we talk about criminal justice, i will tell you a story. we did a meeting on this. actually, senator turner was with me. we did it in iowa a couple months ago. we had a couple guys there. remarkable men who had served prison time, and one guy said, you know, i was in jail and then on one day somebody said to me, oh, by the way, you're going to be released tomorrow and here is $75, lots of luck. he ended up back in jail. we need to understand that if we want to cut the rates of
recidivism, we need to make sure that people have the education and the jobs they need to find a good life in civil society. cheers and applause] senator sanders: now, my dad came to this country at the age of 17 from poland without a nickel in his pocket. never made much money. dropped out of high school. my mom graduated high school. so i'm a little bit sensitive to the issue of immigration. i want everybody here to know that in america today, we have 11 million people who come to this country to try to get a little bit better life for themselves and their children. and what we're seeing now is a horrendous level of bigotry and racism in attacking these people. when you have people like trump
saying that mexicans are rapists or criminals, that is an outrage which we will not accept. cheers and applause] senator sanders: we need comprehensive immigration reform and a path toward citizenship for the ndocumented. now, i think the reason that our campaign is doing well is that we are touching a nerve in america and people are responding very strongly. vast majority of the american people -- you could be conservative, progressive,
moderate, democrat, republican, whatever. very few people think it is right that the 20 wealthiest people in this country now own more wealth than the bottom 150 million americans, half of our people. [audience booing] senator sanders: and when i talk about a rigged economy, i am talking about the fact that one family in this country, the walton family who owns wal-mart, owns more wealth than the bottom 40% of the american people. does that sound like what america is supposed to be about? >> no! senator sanders: let me tell you what a rigged economy means. what a rigged economy means is that the wealthiest family in america, the walton family, pays wages at wal-mart that are so low that many of their employees have to be on medicaid, food stamps and
subsidized housing. and you know who pays for that medicaid, food stamps? you do. so on behalf of the wealthiest family in the world -- in the united states, worth some $60 billion or so, i want to thank you. they are very appreciative that you are helping to subsidize their company. [audience booing] senator sanders: that was a joke. in fact, it's an outrage. why should the middle class of this country have to subsidize employees who work for the wealthiest family in america? that's pretty crazy stuff. so i say -- i say to the walton family, get off of welfare, start paying your workers a living wage.
cheers and applause] senator sanders: now, when we talk about politics in america, you got a lot of republicans running around the country talking about family values. they love families. you all know what they mean by family values. what they mean is that no woman in this room, in this state, in this country should have the right to control her own body. i disagree! cheers and applause] san sand what they mean is that our gay brothers and sisters senator sanders: what they mean is that our gay brothers and sisters should not have the right to get married. i disagree.
cheers and applause] senator sanders: now, i know i will not shock anybody when i suggest to you that on occasion there is a bit of hypocrisy in politics. i know you're all shocked to hear that, but in this issue, i think the hypocrisy reaches an all-time high and this is why. you got republicans running around this country and they say, government stinks. government is the source of all evil. we hate government. we're going to cut social security. we're going to cut medicare and medicaid and the postal service because we hate government. but when it comes to a very personal choice that a woman may have to make, they love the overnment and what -- want the government to make that choice for that woman. cheers and applause]
senator sanders: that, my riends, is called hypocrisy. when we talk about the need to rebuild the middle class, we are talking about a massive federal jobs programs to put our people back to work. we should be hiring teachers, not firing teachers. cheers and applause] senator sanders: tonight -- tonight, if memory is correct, i'm heading to flint, michigan, and it's not a meeting that i look forward to because i know what i'm going to hear because i've already spoken to people in flint. i spoke quietly to a number of people what they told me
literally is incomprehensible that we are seeing what we're seeing in the united states of america in 2016. thousands of children being poisoned by a broken water system, a poisonous water system. now, my point is, flint is maybe the worst example of a collapsing infrastructure but it is not the only example. we can create millions of good-paying jobs by rebuilding our water systems, our waste water plants, our roads, our bridges, our airports, our rail system. cheers and applause] senator sanders: and the other thing we have got to do is not only create jobs, because real unemployment in america is close to 10%, not 5%. the other thing we have to do
is prevent the continued loss of millions of jobs because of our disastrous trade policies. cheers and applause] senator sanders: one of the differences between secretary clinton and myself is that she supported nafta, she supported permanent normal trade relations with china. [audience booing] senator sanders: i helped lead the opposition to those trade agreements. was right, she was wrong. [cheers and applause] senator sanders: look, you don't need -- you know, i suppose we have some ph.d.'s in economics here, but you don't need one to understand what these trade policies are about. it's not complicated. you have a large corporation, and right now you're paying a
worker in the united states $15, $20, $25 an hour. you have to provide health care, you have to protect the environmental legislation and regulations. why would you want to do that when you could shut down in america, move abroad, pay people pennies an hour, not worry about unions, not worry about the environment and bring your product back into america? that's what these trade agreements are. nothing more complicated than that. since 2001, we have lost 60,000 factories in america, a lot of that having to do with disastrous trade agreements. if elected president, we will fundamentally rewrite trade agreements in this country. cheers and applause] senator sanders: corporate america, every night turn on the tv, they say buy this product, buy that product. well, if they want us to buy these products, maybe they
better start manufacturing those products in ohio and america. all of you are aware that as a result of the greed, recklessness and illegal behavior, wall street drove this country too the worst economic downturn since the great depression. that's a fact. we bailed out wall street against my vote, but congress bailed out wall street because the big banks were too big to fail. i.e., if they went under they take half of the economy with them. turns out that today three out of the four largest banks are much bigger than they were when we bailed them out because they were too big to fail. turns out that the six largest banks in america issue 2/3 of
the credit cards that you have, and write 1/3 of the mortgages. in my view, if teddy roosevelt, the great trust buster, were alive today what he would say when you have that much concentration of economic and political power, what you have got to do is break them up and i agree. cheers and applause] senator sanders: people often ask me, what, bernie, is the most important issue? and i can't give you one issue because they're all important, but this i will tell you. there is one issue that impacts all other issues. and that is a corrupt campaign finance system which is ndermining american democracy.
the koch brothers, wall street, billionaires should not be able to buy elections in the united states of america. together we are going to verturn citizens united! cheers and applause] senator sanders: as i said earlier, if this country is to do well economically, we need to have the best educated work force in the world and what that means to me right now are two major things. number one, as a nation we have got to understand that in the year 2016 when we talk about public education, you're not just talking about first grade
through 12th grade. you have got to understand that a college degree today is in many ways the equivalent of what a high school degree was 0 years ago. so we got to do two things. number one, anybody in this country, regardless of his or her income -- i came from a family that didn't have a whole lot of money. anybody in this country who is smart, does well in school and is qualified should be able to go to a public college or university tuition-free. and second of all, we have got to do deal with this crisis of student debt. nybody here with student debt?
[applause] senator sanders: all right. we have legislation that will significantly reduce student debt by allowing those with the debt to refinance their loans and get the lowest possible nterest rates they can find. i'm a member of the u.s. senate committee on the environment and the senate committee on energy. and let me be the first to tell you what i think you already know. climate change is real. cheers and applause] senator sanders: climate change is caused by human activity and it is already doing devastating -- causing devastating problems in our country, all over the world. we need to have the courage to stand up to the fossil fuel
energy, transform our energy ystem. we cannot allow the fossil fuel industry to think that their short-term profits are more important than the kind of planet we're going to be leaving to our kids and future generations. now, i've been criticized in this campaign for many, many things every day and that's ok. >> i love you! senator sanders: there you go. love you too! and here is one area that i have been criticized. bernie, they say, why do you think the united states of
america can do what every other major country on earth does, .k., france, germany, holland, scandinavia, canada, why do you think that in america we can guarantee health care to all people as a right? well, you know what, let me be as clear as i can be. i believe that health care is a right, not a privilege! cheers and applause] senator sanders: and i believe that when 29 million americans today, despite the gains, the real good gains of the affordable care act, but when 29 million americans have zero health insurance, many of you are underinsured with large
deductibles and co-payments, and when we pay by far the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs from a pharmaceutical industry which is ripping us off in believable ways -- [applause] senator sanders: you want to hear crazy? this is crazy. one in five americans who receive a prescription from a doctor cannot afford to fill that prescription. that's crazy stuff. so we are going to take on the drug companies. we are going to take on the insurance companies, and we are oing to pass a medicare-for-all program. cheers and applause]
senator sanders: this campaign is not just about electing a president although, of course, i'm here for that purpose and would appreciate your support on march 15, but it is more than that. it is more than that. what this campaign is about is pushing forward for a political revolution, which revitalizes american democracy which demands that our government represents all of us and not just the 1%. [applause] senator sanders: there is nothing, nothing that i've talked to you about this morning that is radical, that is outside of the mainstream, that the american people do not want to see happen. they know that the rich are getting richer while everybody
else is getting poorer. the issue is, do we have the courage to tell the billionaire class that they cannot have it all, that this country belongs o all of us, not just a few? [cheers and applause] senator sanders: and if we have that courage, we're going to win here on march 15, and together we're going to transform america. thank you! cheers and applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]
7:40, bill clinton rallying for hillary clinton in south carolina. right now we're going to take you live back to capitol hill. there's ohio representative marcy kaptur. she's questioning the defense secretary and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. they're on capitol hill talking about their 2017 budget. we'll show you what we can until the house gavels in for legislative work in about 15 minutes. kapp kapp california with ue -- ms. kaptur: california with poland. what is this essential to carrying out our activities in that realm? thirdly, describe the development and size of isil as a terrorist force and the motivation for what seems to be a drawing additional adherence and would appreciate for the record, what is d.o.d.'s view of victory in syria? and finally, on the matter of survivor benefits, i was recently contacted by a veteran constituent with three children
who's an afghanistan veteran herself at the e-7 level and has p.t.s. she's a gold star wife, due to the death of her husband in iraq in 2004. under current law, a required offset in payments between her dependency and indemnity compensation and her survivor benefit plan annuities prevents her from receiving the full amount of both. 5% of military widows remarry. 95% of widowers do. for women of children, it just seems to me there ought to be something going on at d.o.d. that would help those who have so nobly served our nation so i wanted to put that on the record and if you can't fully answer it here, i would appreciate it on your written replay. first on the russian issue. >> thank you very much, congresswoman. i'll start on the russian propaganda. thing. it is related to hybrid warfare.
russia has bought media in the west, in question about it, secretary carter: you can turn ton in your own living room. and of course, you know, and sometimes that contains the big lie. and our principal response to that as a country and as the we have he truth and to watch the effect of that and it is related -- the state department does that, the intelligence community does that and others but for our part, you asked us, it is related to hybrid warfare and earlier we were discussing the european reassurance initiative and its parts and we were talking about territorial defense which is important but another critical part of the states hardening the of europe to essentially subversion, which is hybrid warfare shades into subversion.
hardening them by helping them to defend themselves from cybermanipulation and from other -- other kinds of insidious influences that we saw precede the russian actions in crimea and ukraine, so we're trying to learn from that. that's exactly what hybrid warfare means. that's why hybrid warfare is part of the new playbook, as i call it, for nato. it's not like your nato was long ago which in the full degap, which is a more conventional kind of conflict, we have to expect a more unconventional kind of conflict and that is exactly what the chairman and i and general breedlove think about and plan for when it comes to europe. i'll stop there except with -- if i may put in a plug with the
state partnership with you. we have huge value out of the state department programs. we fund them and their people are very enthusiastic. the countries tell me all the time how much they love the state that is their partner. it's a great way of tying america to others and complementing what the defense department does institutionally. they are great programs and i appreciate your support. . captur: i hope, mr. -- ms. kaptur i hope, mr. speaker, you'll fully support it. on the propaganda front, i really hope in your position you can lead an administration effort to be a little more coordinated, not just d.o.d., but we need a strategy to totally combat the propaganda that is flooding nations like ukraine. it is not in our interest. it is in liberty's interest to have this continue without an equal response and the west's response is anew mexicoic coming out of the -- >> let me command ms. kaptur
with her persistence. while you were aiming with the russian propaganda, we might come up with the islamic state. mr. calvert and mr. ryan after. mr. calvert: thank you, mr. chairman. secretary carter, general dunford, mr. mccord, thank you for being here. thank you for your service to our country. we certainly appreciate it. i want to expand on chairman rogers' question regarding china and obviously china has been closing the technology gap between our countries. its military, until recent history, as you mentioned historically was focused internally with their primary mission to protect the communist party and the existing government within their country. until recent history, they've been interested in projecting military power just in their own region. i would -- i would argue that we win wars not just because we're just the best trained and most proficient because we're
very good at large-scale strategic operational and tactical logistics. supply, maintenance procedures and practices. we're good at getting our people and equipment anywhere on the globe in a timely manner and have the decades of conflict experience through the world and in prepping and executing these combat service support functions. china's new to this. china is new to power projection. i question their ability to conduct these functions effectively and fighting the conflict beyond their shores. you can have the largest military in the world, but if you can't feed their supply after three days, they become worthless. can you comment on china's ability to effectively project war fighting power beyond its shores but especially with regard to their ability to conduct effective logistics, supply, maintenance, operations, external to china? i don't think we put a lot of thought into that.
general dunford: congressman, thanks for the question. first of all, i agree with you our logistic capability is one of our competitive advantages. i also agree from a power projection perspective the chinese capability is relatively immature. however, if we're talking about within the pacific, they do have one advantage which is sbeernl lines. from a geographically perspective, if we talk about a conflict in the south china sea, in taiwan, those logistic challenges is significantly less than the challenge we would have as we project power to places like the middle east or to the pacific. i do see, you know, from my own personal experience when you talk about putting equipment at sea, when you talk about employing sea-based capabilities, when you talk about logistics over long distances, that takes many, many years. we have maritime preposition ships. i was around in the early days of maritime preposition ships when we put equipment aboard a ship, six months later try to take it off the ship and all
the fuel would turn to sludge. we had to make sure the level of maintenance and readiness was ready today. that was a learning process that frankly took many, many years to develop that. so i would agree with the thesis that the chinese have a long way to go in terms of developing power projection. i guess what i would say is that if you look at the investments that they're making, the attention they're paying to it, the reorganization they did was a recognition in part of the comment you made. just now -- they're looking at our capabilities of logistics. they just made some major reorganization inside the chinese military which i think is part to mitigate the challenges you identified and they know exist. so do i think they have a legitimate power projection capability today? no. do i see forces deployed to places like djibouti? do i see the maritime development you mentioned? do i see the military capealitys developing? yes. i think it's fair from my perspective -- i don't look at intent. i look at capability and i look
it the trajectory and i think it's say at some point in the future, continue to make the investments they're making right now that they will develop a power projection capability. but i agree it's some time away. in the near term, what they're developing would provide them a capability that's probably much easier to attain and that's the capability with internal lines and one of the examples i mentioned. mr. rogers: mr. ryan and then mr. womack. mr. ryan: mr. secretary, thank you for being here. one of the issues -- the issue we talk about here, the budget, money, how we're going to free up money and i know we have a lot of priorities. and the challenges we face today are i think unlike we ever had to as far as dealing with these global challenges, the technology, making sure the third offset, all these new
investments that we have to make so we got to be very smart in how we try to free up money. i know we've been spending since 2001 a good deal more money on health care. and so one of the issues i want to ask you about just briefly and put a plug in for when we look at rates of diabetes and blood pressure and all these things that are causing us to spend a lot of money in the health care system, military health care system, i want to talk to you about the healthy base initiative. what kind of food we have coming in. what kind of nutrition that we're giving these elite warriors. and we know that a lot of these issues are caused, they are diet-related around, i think it would be smart for us to take a holistic approach here and say, hey, if we know we start feeding our soldiers, airmen and the rest healthy food that a lot of these problems can be avoided which frees up money for us to put into the third offset and some of these other things.
you don't have to necessarily comment. maybe comment for the record on the healthy base initiative and what we can do to make sure we start driving down some of these health care costs to free up money for some of these other things. i know mr. visclosky mentioned the defense industrial base issues, youngstown, ohio, is home to america makes which is the additive manufacturing institute. it's doing a phenomenal job and i think can transform our manufacturing. so i want to make sure we robustly support these institutes as we move forward into the future. and then just to touch base quickly on what mr. israel said on the idea of these kind of mind fitness training. again, mind, body, health, how we prepare these men and women to function at the highest level possible and using the most cost-effective ways to do it. i know you mentioned liz stanley, mr. chairman. i know she's not doing any more work within the military now and i would just like to say we
need to reconsider that and i think not just offer it but ramp it up because i think that would be a huge opportunity for us to reduce some of the suicides. and increase performance. lastly and a question. in youngstown at our airbase there, we have the only aerial spray unit. and we are now dealing with the global sgheeka issue, and -- zika issue and i see we're reducing our c-1-j-30 request and i wonder if you can touch upon the zika issue, making sure we have the capacity to address this issue and also will the reduction of c-1-30-j's affect our ability within the aerial spray unit and others to combat this global problem? you have a minute and a half to kind of deal with all that. mr. rogers: if you can do it. secretary carter: i will get back with you on the healthy
base initiative. we do spend $50 billion a year on health care so it is a big part of our budget. obviously like everywhere else in the economy we want to not see that grow too quickly. and one of the ways to do that is to keep people healthy. one of the ways to keep people healthy is teach them how -- what is healthier and so that's an important initiative. i also want to thank you for the manufacturing institutes are a tremendous success. these are public-private partnerships that are model ways of doing things and they are very critical in keeping manufacturing and high-skilled jobs but more importantly industry supporting defense, from our point of view, in the united states. i'll say this about zika and i'll get back to you on the c-130-j. i am not aware that the spraying program is at risk as a consequence of the overall buy. we have several c-130-j's and
we adjust the buys accordingly. with respect to zika, we have not been assigned a role in that. there are some funds that congress made available to the department of health and human services for combating zika, and they're doing various things. we stand ready to help them with research, with spraying, whatever they end up asking for. so we're kind of on tip toes if we're asked to do things. we have not been asked to do things yet, but obviously we'll play a role if we're asked to play a role. general dunford: our focus has been on preventative medicine and protection of the force. and our commanders have all identified individuals, for example, that are at high risk. pregnant women in south america and those kinds of things and afforded them to leave the area if they are at risk for the zika virus. we are making sure there are force, wherever they're deployed, particularly in the areas where the zika virus is presence, to make sure we have a healthy force. i say the things we do, congressman, you know, our
medical professionals are very experienced and very good in preventative health in the areas, something like this, they are very good at making sure we're proactive in keeping the force healthy and ready. >> you can continue to watch this hearing online at c-span.org. the u.s. house is gaveling in momentarily. couple of items on the agenda, including a measure to expand access to federal lands for recreational sporting activities. live coverage here on c-span. o our chaplain, father conroy. chaplain conroy:. let us pray, god, we give you thanks for giving us another day. as we med date on the blessings of life, we pray for the blessing of peace in our lives and in our world. as you have created each person we pray you would give our hearts and minds that every person and every place and background may focus