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reached theve position where anti-muslim organizations are no longer part of the french. they are from the part of the mainstream. -- part of the fringe. they have their own media infrastructure. meanwhile, mainstream muslim organizations have little media influence. they are involved in excruciating debates whether and how to respond to these anti-muslim organizations. as a result, they are falling out of public view. this i argue in the book provided an opportunity for anti-muslims organizations to attack the legitimacy of mainstream organizations. you can also say who is mainstream and is not. groups like the council on american islamic relations are widely accused of tacitly condoning or even encouraging terrorism. there is an act of congress,
which is designed to condemn the organization. the fbi breaks ties with the council on american islamic relations, which at the time was the largest muslim-american advocacy group. we don't have good data on that. but it's at least one of the larger organization. in the senate, we see hearings on the threat of domestic radical organization led by joe lieberman and later peter king. in which only one of the mainstream muslim organizations appeared. it would not surprise you to ppeared, else a anti-muslim organizations and "terrorism" experts. but, i argue a book, had very little cold occasions to call themselves such. with this plagiarism detection approach, i can use it to compare the spread of
anti-sharia legislation. one thing around 2008 is some of the anti-muslim organizations got together with advocacy groups that designed policy. and sent it into a bunch of legislators. i got my hands on a copy of that model legislation. i used the plagiarism detection software to compare it to the legislation introduced in so many u.s. states. you can see on the left, these are groups that introduced the legislation. the number next to them represents the number of words in a text that were lifted verbatim from the anti-sharia model legislation. you can see in some cases, mississippi, 80% of that language was lifted directly verbatim. minnesota, similarly, other groups were much lower. kansas is only 2%. as many of you may know, some of these legislations actually passed. it's still under review by
higher courts. but the irony here, of course, is that as many have argued, this is a nonproblem. not only does the u.s. regularly jurisprudence in matters of arbitration, and nobody was ever trying to issue sharia to challenge the constitution. nor would there be a legal mechanism for them to do so. the idea that this campaign got some attraction was quite telling. but i told you about the media, our policies and counterterrorism policies. what i haven't told you about is the regular public. what does it do to the public? we have been speculating it created an increase in anti-muslim sentiment. and indeed, if we look at public 2001-2003,veys from at first a blip at the 2000 data. but the increase, around the
time of the anti-muslim organizations are gaining traction, we see a steady increase. the percentage of americans exposing negative views about muslims increased. i cannot draw a perfect causal link between these two things, but it's telling that it occurs at the same time. one other neat thing about this moment income be additional social science is that we can harvest -- computational social sciences that we can harvest data from facebook. we looked at positive sentiments. larger grassroots organizations that currently does a lot of public lecturing strongislam have very support among twitter users. my representative -- not a representative sample of the american public. but they have come to define the media cycle itself, twitter users that is. 2005-2010, the number of
controversies about the expansion or construction of mosques, or violent attacks uppon mosques. there has been an 800% increase from 2005, when was organizations were having their day in the media, to 2013. just marked troubling increase. again, no causal links can be drawn. it does occur alongside campaigns from groups like "stop these localization of america," act for america. these are grassroots organizations, one responsible for the protest of a mosque. also many of these other controversies. surge, the so-called burning, the sophomoric
film that made a variety of slanderous statements about islam. thankfully, some of my work is starting to get out there to try and write to this wrong -- right this wrong, to correct the misperception that muslim americans do not condone terrorism. and that anti-muslim organizations have an exaggerated stature. or perhaps on supposedly, the anti-muslim organizations are not so happy about that. they are happy that they are winning. negative messages are about muslims are increasing in the media, even left-wing media. this is a story not about fox news, but cbs, and so on, which relies on many of the same sources i discussed. i also don't like my book very much. this is the first review of my book. -- they didn't like my book very much. [laughter] so what can we do and what can
be done? the first and most disturbing thing we need to think about is the potential for these ideas to travel abroad. earlier of the koran burning affair, loops condemning americans and obama, using that as fodder for agreement. it wasn't until recently that we saw evidence that anti-muslim sentiment was directly being used for recruitment by terrorism organizations like this. here the leader of al-shabaab using trump's call to ban all muslims as evidence that there is no gray zone. that either need to join isis or leave. and now you-- this is the danger. we have seen this before. we have seen this with the koran burning affair, with the sophomoric film "the innocence of muslims."
the danger that these fringe ideas can do is tangible. not only upset people, understandably, but they contributed to the misperception that there's some kind of conspiracy among u.s. government to the anti-muslim. i think this is probably the most dangerous threat we face now. others will speculate, of course, that the rising sentiment creates the potential for increased radicalization. to the extent that young people feel that they can't belong in a society where the majority of people have negative sentiment towards them. we have not seen evidence of that. but the potential is possible. what can we do? we are not going to fix the emotional bias of the max media tomorrow. despite many well-intentioned intense --well-intentioned attempts. it is no easy thing to talk to
the media. but we are not going to convince fox news to stop amplifying social concerns about terrorism. we're not. we can, however, begin to decide how to pick our battles. the wood message for my book -- the one misses from a book that i want to resonate in the public is that if we put our attention against people like trump, if we fight fire with fire, we are going to burn everything down. instead, i think we need new messages that refocus the conversation around something that i know, having talked to so many mainstream muslim organization, which is that muslim americans unequivocally condemned terrorism in all its forms. and are curious and groups like -- and are furious at groups like isis. and yet they have not shown in the public spirit that genuine anger and fear that we know from sociology that bonds groups together. that is corrective and preventative against bias. i think we need to capture that
emotional energy, channeled towards the media, and see if that can right these wrongs. thank you. [applause] >> if anyone in the audience has a question. >> hi chris, thanks for the presentation. i was eagerly awaiting the last parts of the presentation. which is basically okay, fine, and now what? and i candidly would like to hear more aggressive in an approach to taking control of a dialogue then we have seen before. i am not holding you responsible as an academic for taking that lead, although you are the guy with the data and ideas. and you do have a moral pulpit than most at this point. and candidly, since you are not
a muslim, you are in a slightly better position in speaking for the great unlawfulness to this great amount of muslims. your thoughts on that. prof. bail: i certainly agree. i think all of us, specialist those in the canopy need to be more vocal. -- those in the academy needs to be more vocal. i talked to the washington post, done various interviews. but i can say all day that muslims unequivocally condemn terrorism, and somebody that is not muslim, i have very little legitimacy, apart from the data. it's important, but not as compelling as the genuine emotional fear and anger that i've seen from talking to mainstream muslim leaders. who i think are understandably concerned that there is a media motif of an angry muslim. you go on fox news and become angry, you only serve to further the stereotype among angry muslims. but there is anger that is anger
about attacks on your religion. then there is anger, that is equally genuine, that is towards group like isis or dyess. -- or daesh. there has been a lot of understandable hesitation about whether that's a good idea. i think given what i've shown you today, the opportunity, the time has come for that type of corrective discourse. the majority of americans now have this conspiracy theory in their heads. you can simply throw facts at the problem. some recent research coming out of political science and social security -- social psychology show that the more facts you throw at them, the more they double down. it exacerbates the problem. inertainly will do my part any opportunity that i get. i also think that muslim americans themselves could more vociferously
and emotionally condemning the groups that have slandered and terrorized their religion. >> my ideas that islam, as i see it, from a very limited exposure is not the same thing as radical people who happen to be muslim. that is a distinction, which i don't believe i have seen enough of. i don't think i've seen enough, i full-page ad in the times, or whoever else it might be, coming from people who i think would reasonably represent mainstream american islam. saying hey, we agree with you that these guys are nuts. that is frankly, is a call to arms. using a miserable analogy, but we've done the same thing with 150 or 100 years ago. this is the kind of thing we should address earlier rather than later. prof. bail: sure, i agree. i think it's worth pointing out though that muslim americans are an extraordinarily diverse
group. for us to assume that a group can come together with one single voice, when did represent the full spectrum of political ideologies. muslims, by the way 3 to 1 for president bush. they speak dozens of language is, come from dozens of different countries. for a long time, they have enjoyed status as a minority. we had little blips within the iran hostage crisis. americansge, muslim were either a model minority or in invisible minority. seemingly overnight, all of that changed. thatnk for us to assume muslim american organizations can come together overnight is unreasonable. >> we have reviled minorities in this country that have gained power successfully. i don't think it is in
impossibility prof. bail: interestingly some of the muslim organizations use jewish organizations as a model. so you are right. >> thank you. >> as a cultural sociologist, i want to stretch you into europe. i'm reading a book called "hunt ing a season," which is about the capture and killing of the reporter by isis. the capture apparently occurred before we ever heard of isis. the killing occurred later. this notion of mainstream as it relates to european phone. are we stunned, or shouldn't be,
by the number of folks that now see isis as a mainstream organization and yet are of european heritage? any insights on that? you talked about needing to do something now. i'm wondering if it's not too late. but it's already happening. prof. bail: i do know something about europe. i have done studies in britain, for example. i know the muslim population in britain and france fairly well. there are some major differences. one, the population has been more visible for much longer. debates in britain, the about islam go back to the salman rushdie affair, animals in public spaces. also the type of muslims that migrated to britain were by and large much less well-educated, have lower incomes, and were
more segregated by u.s. muslims. the result was a much more politically charged situation, until recently. we are headed in that direction. but historically, britain has been having this debate for a very long time. thato i think the idea europe's own attempts to integrate muslims are failing are creating radicalization is plausible. once again, what can be done about it is how it can be used to stop isis is another huge million-dollar question. i think on the one hand, we thought for a while that countries like france, which famously unite around the principles of republicanism and offering citizenship to anyone born in france. of course, today we learned of attempts to remove that right for people accused of terrorism. even france, the paragon of this model integration, that anybody
can be french, is now disappearing. we have seen how vividly in paris, how that has gone awry. i think we don't know a lot about isis. we are not experts. we don't have data on who goes to them. there are some studies from political sciences that look at recurring rates, and who goes to syria, for example. we are in a different moment now and then we were 10 years ago. this is a real threat. i think it's worth reminding ourselves of that. even if these are people who many of us believe are not muslim and who are slandering the religion, there's also a question worth asking, which is, if they call themselves muslims, who are we to say that they are not? lots of people unite around that. ll, inn't simply say, we
this speaks to the previous question on who gets to speak on behalf of muslims -- no one gets to speak on behalf of them, slippery because of the diversity of the religion. i think it's a dangerous organization, terrifying, no doubt. could european integration policies be modified to help fix this problem? i think so. but these groups that i have observed in the u.s. has many transnational ties in britain and elsewhere. for example, the famous dutch famouslyn who is banned from britain for incitement towards muslims. he is a regular guest on many of these lecture circuits that i have described by anthem muslim organizations. -- by anti-muslim organizations. the debate has not gone in
britain for much longer. youyou fix that and how rebuff that kind of xenophobia -- not aware of any kind of magic solution. but again, from european colleagues i have heard it similar processes are in play in europe. perhaps the solution could be similar in europe. which is to say that french muslims and british muslims need to more forcefully condemn terrorism in an emotional manner. they can benefit from the shared solidarity. >> i hope it's not too long. read,ouple books i've most of them women. sherrie, i can think of her name. she works for american enterprise. these books, at least the two
authors on thinking of, very vividly describe what it is like for women. mutilation, all that. it is really tough to read. i think an underground group of women that are tuning into this and then extrapolating to islam broadly. i think that has not been, at least i'm not aware of it being countered, or even how it could be countered. i'm wondering if you have a comment. prof. bail: the attacks against-- >> how harshly islam, in their experience, treats women. prof. bail: i should say i'm not an expert in islam abroad. such asre of many cases saudi arabia and iran where
there is clear evidence of discrimination against women. noting thato worth many of the heads of state in the world are muslim women. i think that is an amazing feat, that we ourselves of that accompanist. --we ourselves have not accomplished. but you do hear about these egregious things, particularly among isis. the was a new york times expose, women and how they are treated by isis. it's just terrifying. the can't really speak to how real that threat is. i can, however, say that many of the most promising muslim american leaders are women. the former leader of the islamic therey of north america, are dozens of people that are leading advocacy groups, side organizations.
some of the best are muslim american women. if anybody can fight that fight, it is these folks. >> well thank you all for coming. as chris mentioned, ingrid mentions in a compucom has --is coming to campus and about a month. the termemember what is. islamic at dukes. we tweet about these events as well as islamic study at duke.edu. if you have any more questions, please let dr. bail or myself out. thank you all for coming. we are here next week again. have a good day. [applause] >> c-span's washington journal, live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up tomorrow morning, green party business located at jill stein joins us live in the
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followed by committee member's questions. sunday morning at 10:00, on road to the white house we write -- house rewind, the democratic primary debate between senators john f. kennedy of massachusetts and hubert humphrey of minnesota. this was only the second televised presidential primary debate in history. >> the next president must arouse the patient. he must courageously search for a lasting peace with justice and freedom. he must understand the complexities of disarmament negotiations, the workings of diplomacy, the united nations. and because of believe strongly in my country, and in its desolate, because i believe the power and influence of the next president, and his vitality in force are going to be the rate factor in meeting irresponsible of these we are going to face. >> at 6:00, on american artifacts, we will tour louisiana's when you plantation slavery museum. it traces its history to 1752.
>> the story of slavery is integral to the history of the u.s. thedon't talk about enough inequality of african-americans and what they faced in this country. ourdon't talk enough about role today in perpetuating that inequality. it is really significant, i think. and a lot of historic sites arts.ss it in fits and st i think it's important for people to come here and get a more complete understanding of slavery. >> for the complete american history tv we can schedule, go to c-span.org. hillary clinton and bernie sanders were campaigning in south carolina ahead of tomorrow's democratic primary. we will show you both of the events from earlier today, next here on c-span. later, more road to the white house coverage with republican candidate donald trump speaking to an audience at regent
university in virginia. during campaign 2016, c-span takes on the road to the white house. as we follow the candidates on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span.org. >> democratic presidential candidate hillary clinton was in orangeburg, south carolina friday for a campaign event with congressman james clyburn. the 12th term lawmaker, who officially endorsed hillary clinton last week, gave introductory remarks at this event. it is just under half an hour.
[applause] >> thank you, very much. i will not be here long as you can see or hear as my voice is not good. i don't need to be here long because the lady i am about to introduce has really introduced herself to this state and this for the last 40 years. as many of you know, when she graduated from law school, hillary clinton, not clinton then, came to south carolina with the children's defense fund. she came here on a mission to help young boys who were incarcerated but forced to serve their sentences with adults. she came here to reform the
system. she did not stop there. she went on to alabama and worked undercover to reform the school system which many of us remember was originally segregated. she did not stop there. she went on down to louisiana and into arkansas running an age program. she has been first lady of arkansas. she has been first lady of the united states of america. she is been a united states senator. and she has been secretary of state. [applause] >> i don't believe that it can be contested successfully, when
i say that nobody in the history of this nation has ever gone for the presidency with a resume that this lady has. [applause] >> and so, i am proud to stand with her. i said to someone the other day, from day one, my heart has been with hillary clinton in this race. [applause] and when i was asked why, i said one word -- she is a fighter. no one has suffered as much castigation as this lady has suffered. she is resilient. she has weathered those storms.
and so, when i think about continuing the significant progress we have made since eight years ago, continuing to build upon a health care system that is now in place, many of you may not remember, that a long time before, access to health care was called obamacare, they used to call it hillarycare because back in 1993, my first year in the congress, she set out to establish universal access to health care. she did not succeed in getting it done. but, from that program, came this ship.
the state children health insurance program. that to me is doing a great job and is a significant development in our country. [applause] >> i believe sincerely that this nation is well underway to redeeming that great promise of building a more perfect union . i can think of no one from the crop of people running today, better equipped, better prepared, more capable of getting us there then hillary rodham clinton, the next president of these united states. [applause]
♪ sec. clinton: hello, south carolina state. i am so grateful to be here and to have the opportunity to talk to you about what is at stake in this election and i want to thank congressman clyburn for being here with me. for his support and his guidance. if i am so fortunate to be the next president, i am going to be counting on congressman clyburn to help me make the changes that we need in washington. it is always a special treat to have mrs. clyburn here as well. thank you emily for being with
us this afternoon. you know, when i think about this election, i really do believe that it is one of the most consequential we have had because there is no doubt in my mind that there is a big divide between what i believe, what president obama believes, what congressman clyburn believes and though many others and what you are hearing from the republican candidates. that is why getting involved is not only a good thing to do, it is essential. i want to make a few points to you about why i believe that it is more important for young people to be involved this time because so many of the issues, their problems, the concerns that i hear from young people
will either be addressed or they will be ignored. let me start with the economy. i happen to think that we have got to create more good paying jobs, we have got to raise income, we have to give young people chances to start small businesses, to be entrepreneurs, to chart their own future. that is why i have put forth plans on how we can create more jobs in manufacturing, infrastructure, in clean, renewable energy. we can do that if we set our minds to it. it is also important that we provide more access to credit and more support for small businesses. everywhere i go, can people say they have a great idea that they are burdened by debt and they do not know how to get the credit
they need. we have got to fix it and i have a plan. we also have to raise minimum wage. people who work full-time should not be mired in poverty at the end of the year. it is way past time to make sure that women get equal pay for the work we do in the workplace. [applause] sec. clinton: everything i have just said, the republic inns do not agree with. they do not believe we should be working together to invest more in new jobs. they say, leave it to the market. they don't believe in raising the minimum wage. they don't believe there is a problem with equal pay. that will be one of the biggest issues in this election and they will try to convince people that their philosophy of trickle-down economics is what folks should vote for. let me make two historical observations. we were on the right track in the 1990's when my husband was president.
income went up for everyone, not just folks at the top. middle-class families, working families, and where people were lifted out of poverty than at any time in recent history. what happened? the supreme court elected a republican president and they went back to trickle-down economics. they took their eyes off the financial markets. and the mortgage markets. in comes a new dynamic, and extraordinary young president, barack obama. what does he inherit? the worst financial crisis since the great depression. president-elect obama calls me shortly after the 2008 election to see him in chicago. i did not know why -- turns out he wanted me to be secretary of state. but the first thing he told me was that the economy was so much
worse than what they told him. it was. 9 million americans lost their jobs. 5 million lost their homes. $13 trillion in family wealth wiped out. president obama does not get the credit he deserves for digging us out of the ditch that the republicans put us in. [applause] sec. clinton: i will tell that to everyone. we will wage a campaign on that . because if you listen to the republican candidates, they want to turn the clock back as if none of this has happened. thanks to leaders in the congress like congressman clyburn working with the president, we were able to get ourselves out of that ditch, . stand up again, get 40 million jobs back, save the auto industry, put the toughest new
regulations on wall street and most of that did not get any help from the republicans. so, i am a proud defender of president obama. i was honored to serve as his secretary of state. we became not just partners, but friends. i am not going to let the republicans rip away the progress we have made under his leadership. [applause] sec. clinton: i will tell you something else he did -- the affordable care act. the affordable care act which has moved us towards 90% universal coverage in our country. democrats have been trying to do that since harry truman. president obama got that done. i heard congressman clyburn say it was called hillarycare. i worked really hard but the companies stopped us.
so i turned around and created the children's health fund. that insures 8 million kids. that is why i was so thrilled when the president was successful in getting the affordable care act passed. 19 million people getting health insurance. republicans want to repeal it. i want you to ask -- what would they replace it with? you want to get rid of what we have that is helping all of these folks? basically, they want to give it back to the insurance companies so you can be denied health insurance for a pre-existing condition, where women will pay more for our health insurance than men and young people will not be permitted to get onto their parent's policy up to the
age of 26. we are not going back there, my friends. we will stand and defend the affordable care act. we will take it further. we will go after prescription drug costs which are out of sight. we are going to finally make sure medicare can negotiate for lower drug prices because once we get medicare to do that, then prices will go down. we pay the highest prices in the advanced world for drugs we helped create through research with our tax dollars. we are going to take that on, front and center. we will work hard to make sure education provides a quality opportunity for young people no matter what zip code they live in. i was over in williamsburg county, one of the county that is a long interstate 95. you may have seen a documentary from a few years ago that was
called -- "the corridor of shame." they filmed schools falling down around the teachers and students. mold, terrible conditions. the supreme court of the state has ordered that the legislature do something about that but so far, they have been unwilling to act. i don't think it should matter where you live in south carolina or america. you are entitled to a first-class education. we will work hard to make sure that we provide support particularly for schools that are educating low income kids that need extra help and support. it is also important that we have more early childhood education because that will help us get more kids ready to succeed by the time they get to kindergarten or first grade. we are going to make college affordable.
we are going to lower the cost. we are going to make it possible to go to college, debt free when it comes to your tuition. you will not have to our own -- borrow money to attend college, a college like this that has such a storied history. i have $25 billion fund for historically black colleges and universities, public and private. [applause] sec. clinton: because i know, i know how important they have been to educate so many leaders, so many professionals across the years. that they have been operating. we are going to do more to make sure that they keep educating
young people, now and far into the future. [applause] sec. clinton: i also want to tackle the problem of student debt. if you have student debt, we will refinance your debt and get the cost down. we will give you a chance to pay it as a percentage of your income and we are going to be sure that you get to pay it off at a certain time so we don't have young people burdened by debt. they will be able to get on with their lives the way many of us did when we had student debt. [applause] sec. clinton: there are a lot of issues that we have to worry about. i see the take a stand people. i want you to know that i have taken a stand against the privatization of social security. we are going to extend the social security trust fund. i need you to stand with me because republicans still do want to privatize it. they say that out loud and in
public. we have got to defend social security. we also have to make sure that we do everything we can to protect and defend voting rights, voting rights are under attack across america. we have got to stand against efforts at the state level to suppress the votes and restrict the votes. we have to go after citizens united, a terrible supreme court decision that opened the door to secrets, unaccountable money, and we will get supreme court justices appointed starting with president obama who is following through on his constitutional responsibility to nominate someone for the supreme court. [applause] sec. clinton: and now, the senate needs to do is constitutional responsibility
and consider that nomination. but if we cannot get that decision reversed, i will lead a constitutional amendment because we have got to stop the secret, unaccountable money that so many people are watching as it corrupts our political system. it is also important that we reform our criminal justice system. that we reformed our incarceration system. i have laid out very specific plans to do that and this is an area that i hope is bipartisan. i was with my friend senator booker yesterday in florence. he is one of the leaders in the senate working with republicans to make the changes that we need. it is also imperative that we protect the gains that have been made, not only for women, because believe me, they want to turn the clock back on us also.
i also want to end discrimination against the lgbt community. they deserve to have their rights and have their lives respected as well. we have work to do, my friends and it is important work. work that i cannot do alone. it would not be possible to do it alone. we need to do it together. that is why i am asking for your support in the primary tomorrow. i hope you will turn out and vote. i hope you will stand with me. [applause] sec. clinton: because at the end of the day, it is important to get the nomination. i am doing everything i can to earn that. but then we have got to turn around and win the election in november. i know that conventional wisdom is that south carolina is pretty much in the republican column
these days. i want you to know, working with leaders like congressman clyburn and others in your state, in the state senate and house and at the county and local level, i want to help support the democratic party in this state so we can be competitive in south carolina again in the future. there are so many issues that matter to south carolinians that are not going to be addressed by the other party. this great institution deserves a lot more help from the state legislature than it receives. [applause] sec. clinton: what is the best way of getting that done? elect people who can fight for you and get the numbers up in the state legislature to make that case. i want to end by saying this. every day i am out here campaigning and making the case
that i think is important for our country, i really remember how blessed i am. my grandfather was a factory worker, my father was a small businessman. my mother was out on her own at the age of 14 working as a maid. every one of us has a story to tell. if we had the time, we could hear from every one of us. we have got to make sure that our country lives up to its promise. i want to break every barrier that stands in the way of any of american from getting a head and staying ahead. i know america cannot live up to its potential unless every person in our country has a chance to live up to his or hers. i hope you will join me and that you will be part of this effort to build on the progress we have made under president obama to go further.
♪ ♪ >> our goal is to get the candidates are saying about social security and how they plan on saving it. because irticipating feel like it is important to get out and vote. it is the only was we can voice our opinions. >> senator bernie sanders was also in orangeburg, south carolina on friday. hi stop at the university includes introductory remarks from killer mike. this is 50 minutes.
[cheering] killer mike: hello. hello. hello. let me pull out the list of words i cannot say. you really judge a person by how they treat people when they do not have to treat them well and when it is in their best interest not to treat them well. i am going to repeat that. you should judge people by how they treat people. but people who they do not have to treat well.
or people that they could benefit by treating bad. bernie sanders is a white man in america. he does not have to care about anyone in this room, but himself. bernie sanders is a fantastic person in america. he can say that he worries about me. since a teenager and a young adult, he has fought for the rights of people who do not look like him, who are not from where he is from and who are not from his socioeconomic background. just last week, he stood on his integrity and his convictions and depended on americans to be intelligent enough. to say in spite of his opportunity to separate himself.
this man stood and told the truth. i respect that more than a grand introduction for a politician because that means when you are in office and have a hard decision to make, you will think about the people you talked to at these rallies. as president, he will think about women's rights before his own. as president bernie sanders will say publicly, police have no right to murder your children in the streets. as president, bernie sanders will make sure that people who work the least of the jobs among us will receive fair wages so they can be part of the economic climate that we enjoy in america. he will unify people based on our differences and not use them to separate. for the first time in my life, i am for the first time in my life, seeing what civil rights promised my grandmother.
an opportunity to have someone that does not look like he, have empathy for me, but be willing to make policy that makes it fair even if it puts them at a regular person's level with me. i am looking for the first time in my life at a politician who in spite of popular demand says he will stand with someone on an unpopular thing because people deserve free health care, free education, and people deserve to be treated as well as any white and in america. for the first time in my life, i am seeing a politician call for true equality by way of policy and not asking me to wait. for the first time in my life, and i am going to leave and introduce this guy soon but when you have an opportunity to tell two black girls to shut up and get off stage and you don't.
and you shake their hand and you smile and you step to the side and you listen. that is a big difference in turning around and saying to a little black girl, shut up. i will talk to you later. i am going to tell you that the proof is in the pudding every time. 51i can find a picture form protest andyou segregation. i know 51 years later you are willing soldier on, hold your head and listened to two black girls yell and scream as opposed to someone who will tell you to shut up. as opposed to someone who will tell you -- later. when it comes to your children dying in the streets. i know that the only person that i have the conscience to vote for is bernard sanders. [applause] killer mike: i know that the only person that my logical,
beautiful black mind will allow me to vote for is senator bernie sanders. i want to tell the other side. i know from going around and shaking hands and hugging these beautiful black faces in south carolina, that firewall has a crack in it. i want to introduce you to the next president of the united states. [applause] [cheering] [chanting] sen. sanders: thank you all, very much. thank you very much for being out here today.
let me thank representative bamberg and the senator turner and killer mike for their calm and quiet introductions. [laughter] sen. sanders: i want to just -- with killer mike here, you know killer mike is not a killer. i want to thank you for taking the message of social and racial justice to young african-americans, young whites, young latinos. that is what you have been doing for years, and i very much appreciate what you have been doing. [applause] sen. sanders: we came to south carolina from a state far, far away where it gets a little colder than it does here. you may want to visit us in the summertime. when we came here to south
carolina, we knew very few people. that is the simple truth. the first polls out there had us at about 5%-7%. in the last nine months, we have, a long way because of your support. we appreciate it very much. i also want to thank in addition to representative bamberg, and senator turner and killer mike, i want to thank vangelis. dr. cornell west. people know cornell west? [applause] sen. sanders: he is one of the important intellectuals in our country. representative keith ellison. cochair of the house progressive caucus. you all know danny glover.
we have a young danny glover on our campaign. the actor has spent his entire career fighting for social justice. how about harry belafonte? i have known him since i was a kid. again, an example of someone who is not just an extraordinary singer and actor but he has been involved in the fight for peace and racial and social justice his whole life. anyone here here the ad that spike lee did for us. [applause] sen. sanders: he is one of the great film producers in america. i also want to thank representative joe neal for his support as well. let me make this brief. our country today faces very serious problems. that is the truth.
does everyone agree? [applause] sen. sanders: i think and the reason i am running for president is that i believe that it is just too late for establishment politics and establishment economics and the same old, same old. ok? when we live in a country which is the wealthiest country in the history of the world, but when african american youth unemployment for high school kids is 51%. 51%. an african-american child poverty in this country, 35%. when we are living in a country where many of you who are going to college are going to leave school deeply in debt. is that the case? we've got to do something about that.
not only do we have to make sure that young people are not suffocated with outrageous level s of student debt, we should be making public colleges and universities tuition free. [applause] sen. sanders: we should be providing substantial help to historically black colleges and universities who are doing a great job educating young people. [applause] sen. sanders: what this campaign is about is taking a hard look at national priorities. when we have 20 of the wealthiest people in this country owning more wealth than the bottom 50% of america. 150 million people. does anyone think that is right? crowd: no.
sen. sanders: we have republicans that want to give tax breaks to the top 1%. it does not make sense to me. so, this is what i think. i think for a start, that when we have a lot of people in this country working or nine dollars-$10 an hour. does anyone think you can get by on that? crowd: no. sen. sanders: do you think we should raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour? ok, let me say a word to the ladies. [applause] sen. sanders: ladies -- nationally, women earn $.79 on the dollar compared to men. african-american women earn less than that. who thinks that is right? guys -- are you going to stand with the women and fight for pay equity for women workers? [applause] sen. sanders: ok ladies, you have some allies. hold them to that. here is the story about
unemployment. we have too much unemployment in this country. we need to create millions of good paying jobs. how will we do that? we are going to hire teachers, not fire teachers. [applause] sen. sanders: i hope some of you here will give thought to going into teaching because we need great teachers in this country. [applause] sen. sanders: others, i hope will give thought to going into childcare work. we need well paid, well-trained childcare workers so that the littlest children in the country get the start in life that they need. let me tell you a story if i might. i was in flint, michigan just the other day. everyone here know what is going on in flint, michigan?
you don't know what is going on in flint, michigan because it is worse than you think it is. it is beyond belief worse than you think it is. when you hear what the people of flint are saying as i did you would say -- wait a minute, what country am i living in? am i really living in the united states of america in 2016? it just broke? ok, there it is. my electrified personality has -- [applause] sen. sanders: i want you to imagine this in flint, michigan. we spoke with a mother who has a nine-year-old child. nine-year-old child, a couple of years ago, this kid was doing really well in school, outgoing,
vivacious. two years later, because of lead poisoning, that little girl's intellectual development has been significantly diminished. right now, as i understand it, she is in special education. can you imagine the mother, watching this take place to your own baby. and on it goes. people are paying when $150-$200 a month for water which is poisoning them. you have a school system which is totally inadequate, a health care system that is inadequate. this is taking place in the united states of america. the reason i am running for president is because i am prepared to take on wall street, to take on the big money
interests who today are doing so much harm to our country. let me give you an example. question -- someone give me an answer. somebody today in south carolina gets picked up for possessing marijuana. what happens? you may go to jail. and now you have a police record. question number two. you are a wall street executive. whose greed and illegal behavior helped destroying the american economy, caused millions of people their jobs, their homes, and their life savings. what happens to you? you get a salary increase. you do not get a jail record. that speaks to a broken criminal justice system. you know what i mean by that? this is a broken criminal justice system when a kid gets a police record -- what happens with that?
it is hard to get a job. the kid gets a police record but the executive on wall street gets off scott free. by the way, after reaching a settlement with the government for $5 billion. when we talk about criminal justice, what about the need for police department reform? what about that? >> black lives matter. sen. sanders: absolutely. why do we have in america -- more people in jail than any other country on earth? we have more people in jail for a number of reasons but one of the reasons, and by the way, as you know, people in jail are disproportionately african-american, latino, and native americans. we have over policing.
it turns out that whites and blacks smoke marijuana at about equal rates. that is a fact. blacks are more than four times more likely to be arrested for marijuana than whites. do you know what i think about marijuana? it is today part of the federal controlled substance act. it is a federal crime. it is listed right alongside heroin. does that make sense? we are going to take marijuana out of the federal controlled substance act so it is not a federal crime. [applause] sen. sanders: state can make it legal or not but it should not
be a federal crime. what we are also going to do is the following -- if somebody when they are being arrested, is killed by a police officer or dies while they are in police custody, in every instance, we are going to have a federal department of justice investigation. [applause] sen. sanders: and if the police officer, and i am a former mayor and i have worked hard with police officers and most officers are honest, hard-working guys. but if a police officer breaks the law, that officer must be held accountable. [applause] sen. sanders: second of all, we are going to demilitarize local police departments. they should not be like occupying armies. the function of the police department is to serve the people, not to be an oppressive force in the community. they are part of the community.
thirdly, we need great, young people by the way to think about getting into law enforcement because we need police departments around this country to look like the diversity of the communities that they are serving. [applause] sen. sanders: fourth, we are going to do away with minimal sentencing. a lot of people get sentenced for too long because judges do not have the flexibility they should have. fifth, we are going in this country, and in my state, we have a very serious problem with drugs, with opiates, and with alcohol. what we have got to understand is that substance abuse is a health issue and not a criminal issue. [applause]
sen. sanders: in other words, people who are addicted, and are trapped in drugs or alcohol, need health care to get off of that addiction, not to be jailed. does that make sense to people? [applause] sen. sanders: and when people are arrested and go to jail, one of the tragedies in this country is that many of them, when they leave jail, and up back in jail. they end up back in jail because they do not have the job training, the education that they need to go out and become part of civil society. we have got to make sure -- i will tell you a story. i was in iowa. he was arrested and spent time in jail. he was released and given a check for $75. good luck. he ended up back in jail. we have too many people going in and out of that pipeline.
we are going to make sure that people have the education and the jobs they need when they go back into society so they do not go back into jail. [applause] sen. sanders: by the way. when youth unemployment for high school kids, we have got two choices. we can either build more jails and arrest more people. i think that is a stupid choice. or else, we can put money into education and jobs. [applause] sen. sanders: it turns out that it costs less money to send a kid to the university of south carolina than it does to send them to jail. i would rather send them to the university of south carolina or any other college for that matter. [applause]
sen. sanders: what goes on in this country is that we have a corrupt campaign finance system. does everyone know what i mean? what i mean is that you have one vote which i hope you will exercise on saturday, tomorrow. you have one vote that there are other people in this country that have one vote but they also have hundreds of millions of dollars to try to buy elections. does that sound like democracy to anyone? crowd: no. sen. sanders: that is called oligarchy, ruled by the rich and powerful. one of the reasons we have it is because of a disastrous supreme court decision on citizens united. we will overturn citizens united one person, one vote. [applause] sen. sanders: i want to tell you something else. i know that i date myself. i am old. i confess. you can love me. i am lovable. but i still am old.
back in 1963, a long time ago, i was there for the march on washington with dr. martin luther king. [applause] sen. sanders: and all of you know, everyone knows, that what the struggle was about was the voting rights that everybody in america, no matter the color of your skin in america, has the right to vote. 1965, president johnson signed the voting rights act. a major breakthrough. a year ago, there was a supreme or decision that undermined a lot of the voting rights act and now you have governors and legislatures all over this country -- you know what they are trying to do? they are trying to make it harder for people to vote, for poor people, elderly people, for people of color. i think that is cowardly and i will tell you why. they are afraid of a free and fair election.
they don't want people who might vote against them to participate in the political process. [applause] sen. sanders: i believe that if someone is running for office or someone is governor, and they don't have the guts to allow a free and fair election, do you know what i think? they should get another job and get out of politics. [applause] sen. sanders: i don't want to see people -- have you seen those pictures? people waiting in line for four hours to vote. we know what that is about. if you are 18 years of age in the united states of america and a citizen of this country, you have a right to vote. end of discussion. [applause] sen. sanders: we will make it easier for people to vote, not harder. one of the differences between secretary clinton and myself,
and you will have to make this evaluation and think it through. i do not have a super pac. i do not raise millions of dollars from wall street or powerful special interests. [applause] sen. sanders: we have received 4 million individual contributions. more than anyone in history at this point in a campaign. the average contribution is $27. secretary clinton has a super pac and receives $15 million from wall street. i think that is wrong. i want to touch on another issue. a trade issue. not a sexy issue but important. south carolina devastated by nafta. corporations in this country ask -- why would i want to pay a
worker in south carolina. i could shut down the plant and move it to mexico and china and bring my product back into this country. that has devastated the south and states all over this country. we have lost millions of decent paying jobs. it is time for corporations who want us to buy their products to start manufacturing their products here in the united states of america. [applause] sen. sanders: another issue. and i know on this issue people may disagree with me but let me throw it out. all of us know that there are terrible crimes committed. we see it every day. some lunatic goes out and starts shooting our people and we get angry. we say i want that person executed. i want to tell you something. i am opposed to the death penalty. [applause]
sen. sanders: not everyone agrees with me. secretary clinton does not agree with me. i want to tell you why i am opposed to it. number one, if you look at our history, there are a lot of innocent people, often people of color who were executed and then we found out years later they were not guilty. number two, we have so much ugliness and so much violence in our society. i just don't think that the government should be involved in that violence and should be killing people. [applause] sen. sanders: so, and i know people disagree with me. we see people do terrible things and we say we want vengeance. but vengeance is not the answer. people do something terrible, lock them up and throw away the key. keep them behind bars. i do not believe that government should be involved in the taking of lives. [applause]
sen. sanders: last point i want to make. in politics, of which i know a little bit about, it is very easy to get votes by scapegoating minorities. it is easy to do. right now, we seeing it on the republican side. we are seeing donald trump telling us that we are supposed to think that all of the people from mexico came into this country and they are rapists and drug dealers. all of you know that that is nonsense and we will not succumb to that type of bigotry. [applause] sen. sanders: we are also supposed to keep muslims out of this country and that is what it is always about. we play off one group against another. white against black. nativeborn against those that came into this country. we will not do that. i want to talk to about what happened in 1996.
there was a bill called the so-called welfare reform bill. and the idea behind this is that poor people were ripped off the -- ripping off the welfare system. the end result of that legislation, was that extreme poverty, the poorest of the poor, children who are hungry, extreme poverty in this country. the rates doubled. because of that legislation. i vigorously opposed that legislation. secretary clinton supported that legislation. that is an important difference between us. i want to and by thanking you all for coming out. i know that a lot of your friends, if you are young people, think you are crazy to go to a political event. am i correct? they are saying -- get a life.
why are you wasting an afternoon by going to bernie sanders events. and by the way, who is bernie sanders? i want to say this very profoundly. i worked in the united states senate. i see what goes on there. now, if you do not want to leave school deeply in debt, if you want to get a job that pays you a living wage, if you are a woman and you want to earn equal pay. if you are concerned about climate change and concerned about our criminal justice system. if you don't vote and your friends do not vote, who do you think is going to pay attention to those issues? do you think that billionaire campaign contributors are going to be worried that women in south carolina are trying to raise their kids on eight dollars an hour? you think they are staying up nights worrying that we have a
broken criminal justice system? they are not. the only people who are going to make the change -- the history of america, whether it is the worker's rights movement, the civil rights movement, the women's movement, the gay rights movement, what is it about? people at the grass roots standing up and demanding change. it is always from the bottom up never the top down. [applause] sen. sanders: that is what this campaign is about. it is saying that it is wrong in america when so few have so much and so many have so little. that we are the only major country on earth that does not guarantee health care to all people. we don't have paid family and medical leave.
we do not have a minimum wage which is a living wage. there is a lot of work to do. no president can do it alone. we need a political revolution. are you ready to join in that revolution? [applause] sen. sanders: that is what it is about. if we do not allow donald trump to tell his friends to divide us up, if we stand together, we can do extraordinary things. think they give up what this country can become. i want to thank you for a much. make sure you vote tomorrow. thank you all very much. [applause] >> the brains of the family. [applause]
announcer: we will bring you the results of the south carolina democratic primary tomorrow, as soon as they are available. you'll also hear from the candidates, and get your reaction by phone and social media. our load -- live coverage begins at 7:30 p.m. eastern on c-span. the candidates have several ads running ahead of the primary, here is a look at what voters are seeing on tv.
>> the son of a polish immigrant who grew up in a brooklyn tenement, he grew up going to public school and then college, the work of his life began, fighting injustice and inequality, seeking truth and power. he moved tumor -- raman, one an election and praise for one of them best mayors. he opposed the iraq war, supported veterans. now he is taking on wall street and a corrupt political system. creating clean energy jobs, fighting for living wages, equal pay, and tuition free, public colleges. bernie sanders: people are sick and tired of establishment politics and they want real change. sanders, husband, father, grandfather, and honest leader building a movement with you, to give us a future to believe in. bernie sanders: i'm bernie
sanders, and a approve this message. >> i think the
one word to look at the qualifications of candidates, to reflect upon whether a country can be, and look who can best get us to that place. i think it is hands down hillary clinton. hillary is the only candidate i trust to fight the injustice too many feel. and build on the progress, not rip it away. my heart has always been with hillary clinton. mrs. clinton: i'm hillary clinton, and i approve this message. >> no fresh clean water source. the water is poison. water, you drink the cannot bathe in the water, you cannot cook with the water. >> there was a time when we were alone and nobody hurt our story. -- heard our story. hillary clinton: i am here because for nearly two years flint's water was poisoned. , >> hillary clinton came here and showed us she is standing with us. >> she is the one that brought this to another level of attention.
that's what we needed. hillary clinton: if what happened in flint happened in grosse pointe, i think we all know we would've had a check -- solution yesterday. [applause] >> hillary clinton really cares about people. >> she is awesome. when you have somebody like that fighting for you and supporting you, and saying, i have your back, you cannot bask -- ask for more. hillary clinton: i will fight for you in flint no matter how , long it takes. [applause] mrs. clinton: i'm hillary clinton, and i approve this message. >> republican president ial candidate donald trump has a new
endorsement heading into the next primary contest on tuesday. new jersey governor chris christie officially pledged his support for the businessman friday at a news conference in fort worth, texas saying mr. trump will "do exactly what needs to be done to make america a leader around the world again" . governor christie's endorsement comes a little more than 2 weeks after ending his own presidential bid. donald trump called him a friend
and a spectacular governor, , while accepting his endorsement. earlier this week, donald trump spoke about his campaign and the issues he's focused on at regent university of virginia. the event was part of a forum that has included other presidential candidates. this is 45 minutes. >>ladies and gentlemen, please welcome mr. donald j. trump. [applause] mr. trump: thank you everybody. thank you. thank you very much. [applause] so nice. thank you very much. please, sit down. we had a very exciting evening last night.
i went all around, you know the word caucus, it's a little , complicated. you don't know how it's going to work out. they say it's hard to poll. but we pulled fine, and we -- we ended up and we getting 46% of the vote. during the day, i saw all these people, they are all saying donald, we love you donald. and you don't know what's going to happen. and service we turned on the tv, it was obvious from the beginning. we had an extraordinary night. one of the things that made me so happy is, as you saw, we totally won with evangelicals. i mean we were big league with evangelicals. it was such a good thing. we worked very hard. i am presbyterian, protestant. i was going to talk to pat, to -- who is a great gentleman by the way. i have watched him over the years. the job he has done is incredible. i have to tell you, it's an honor to be with pat. i look forward to having him grill me.
he will probably be grilling me. he is a great demand and eight -- great man and a great guy. last time i was with him was about 4 years ago, getting an award. we got the boone pickens award for entrepreneurship. pat was there, i got to know him i really -- a little bit. i think the reason we are doing well in the polls, leading by a lot with almost everybody, is that i talk about what we have to do for our country. our country is in deep trouble. we owe $19 trillion. most people don't even know what $1 trillion is. how many hundreds of millions is in one trillion. such a number. it is a name 10 years ago you , never even heard the word trillion. oh a bad budget was $19 trillion. passed about four weeks ago that will add at least $2 trillion to it. we will be up essentially $21 trillion.
you get to a point essentially where does a point of no return. you need someone that knows what they are doing. when it comes to business, i know what i'm doing. riodas been an amazing pe of time for me. my two sons our backstage. maybe i'm allowed to bring them up, because i'm very proud of them. maybe i will bring them on. [applause] [cheering] mr. trump: good, that's beautiful. this is don and eric an they were with me for the last week. they go around making speeches. they do a better job than me. i go into the room and watch television. [laughter] they say, the trumps are making speeches. say hello don. don: it's great to be here to be a proxy for him. we know what he feels about this country. we know the values he has instilled in us got -- growing up education, family, work , ethic. all these things that are often lost on children of similar
fortune. you don't read about many children that came from the kind of wealth that we were brought up with in a way that you perhaps read about us. i want talk about myself that way, but i will talk about my brother and sister that way. those are all things that he does not get credit for. those of the things that you don't see, when he is a father when he's never grandfather to , -- now a grandfather to my 5 children. it's incredible. he talks about business, and he's phenomenal at that. if you knew the real donald, you would see something special. he's an incredible guy. we are thankful he's doing this not only for ourselves and our children, but for everyone in this country. he will do a phenomenal job. [applause] eric: to reiterate, he has been our best friend, our mentor. he is the greatest. we worked across the table with him for 10 years, building hotels and golf courses all the -- all over the world. everything he touches turns to gold.
that is the touch that this country needs. it really is. that will be no better commander-in-chief. i said it a long time ago i said , it 3-4 months ago we were going to win this thing. i think we really are. he will be such a great president. we are proud of you pops. we love you to death. we will give it back to you. [applause] mr. trump: thank you. so a lot of times people asked me to speak about success, friends of mine. they will even make big pavements that we give to charity. i will do it. so often i will say, the really successful people are those not without the great wealth, but with great families. they have great kids, wives, and has been read those of the people that are the happiest. i don't know if i'm speaking against myself here the fact is, , the most successful people in the world, i deal with them all of the time. i know them very well in many cases. these are not the happiest
people, generally. a couple of them are happy, not too many. no matter how successful, they always want more, more, more, never satisfied. i guess i get guilty of that also. the happiest people i know are those with great families. it is something i talk about during success seminars. a lot of times the people running the seminar do not want to hear that. it is not exactly what they want to hear. but i have to be truthful. that is a great example i have 2 , really great boys. i have five children altogether. they have been fantastic. to -- you know ivanka, who's going to have a baby in about a week. we have been waiting. we thought iowa, we thought new hampshire. [applause] we thought south carolina. we thought vegas would be an interesting place to have a baby. much different deal. but she probably would like it during the next week or two. she will have a baby and she's been spectacular. i have tiffany and aaron. -- barron.
they are all very good kids read hopefully they will stay that way. od?re is wo i have to find some. is anybody superstitious? oh, that's real wood too. that's the real deal. [laughter] they are good kids, it is really great. what we have to do, i think the reason we are resonating is because we have to strengthen our trade deals, they are horrible. with china, we lose in trade $500 billion a year. , what kind of deal is that? with japan we lose hundreds of billions of dollars. much smaller than china, but hundreds. we owed japan $1.6 trillion. we oh china $1.7 trillion. china $1.7 trillion. an amazing thing, right? they take of money, and we owe them money. they take our factories, and you have no many have closed up.
i have great relationships with china and japan. i have great relationships with mexico. but mexico is killing us at the border, and they are killing us in trade. you read the other day, where carriers were moving into mexico. carrier, they make air-conditioners, and they are moving in. i thought it was very sad. they release 1400 people. the executive was standing up, saying we're going to move. all of those jobs are gone. they are moving to mexico. i said to myself, how does that help us? they are going to make air-conditioners, sell them across the border probably have , illegals walk them in. it is cheaper that way. nobody checks them. every illegal gets an air conditioner. walks across. ford does the same thing. ford is building a $2.5 billion plant. they will have illegals drive cars across the border. [laughter] it's very sad.
honestly, very sad. it is so bad that sometimes you have to laugh, you cannot even believe it. ford is building a massive plan. -- nabisco is moving from point. chicago into mexico. they took the plant out of tennessee that was scheduled to be built, and boom, tennessee is such a great place, at the last moment they decided it was going to mexico. we have to do something. we have to have borders. we have to have strong borders. if we don't have borders we , don't have a country. people can come into our country, but they have to come in legally. they cannot do what they are doing. we have 179,000 illegal immigrants who are criminals. that's like filling of yankee stadium four times. all around the country, these are criminals. this is not just -- these are people convicted of a crime. we are going to be strong on the
borders, very strong with trade. we are going to be strong on protecting our second amendment. we are going to get rid of common core, which is basically education through washington which is a disaster. ,you understand that. we are going to get rid of obamacare. obamacare turned out to be a total disaster. [applause] and it's really hurting our country. it is really hurting our country because you have so many part-time job because people don't want to register under obamacare. everybody has part-time jobs. you look at these people that -- they never had a part-time job in their life. all of the sudden companies are putting him -- putting them on part-time, and they have to find a second job. it is an unfair thing. there are so many plans, whether it is the health care savings. we have to get rid of the lines between the states. but is there for one reason, because all of these politicians that i am running against and more are being taken care of by
the insurance companies. they are taken care of by the oil and gas companies. they are taking care of by everybody, i am the only one that is not. you know why i am not -- i am self funding. i don't know if that is smart or not so smart. [applause] but as a big contributor, i have been over the years, a big contributor. i understand what it takes. we have a situation right now with drugs. the u.s. is the largest drug buyer in the world. drugs to make you better, pharmaceuticals. a friend of mine that is a doctor came up to me and said, why don't we? i don't understand. once i found out what he was talking about, it is not my world, i knew exactly why. the pharmaceutical industry takes care of all the senators and congressmen, they have a strong lobby. they don't want to bid out drugs we could save $300 billion. , and we don't even do it. if i'm there, they will be safe, donald, you can do it.
trust me, i can do it. they can't do it because they been given millions of dollars. you don't know how corrupted is. i guess it's called legal -- corrupt it is. i guess it's called legal corruption. you don't know how corrupted is. whether it's the timber industry, anything. i will do the right thing. we have to straighten the country out. one of the other things, bigger than that, military. for years we have been seeing the military -- i have been seeing it for years they order a , plane that they don't want or missile they don't want because the company making a missile has more political influence. they are ordering things that even the generals do not want, they are ordering too much equipment. those days are over. we are going to make our military bigger, better, stronger than ever before. it is the cheapest thing we can do by the way and nobody is , going to mess with us. i don't want to use it. i didn't want to go into iraq. that was one of the worst decisions ever made. we lost $2 trillion. thousands of lives.
we have wounded warriors, who i love, all over the place. what happens -- iran is now taking over iraq. when you think of how iran is doing lately, we give them $150 billion and get nothing for it. we should've gotten a business -- our prisoners back long before we started negotiating. you say listen, your not negotiating until we get our prisoners back. we cannot. they will say no, and then you leave the room. they didn't leave the room. they never left, they just of their. kerry is the worst negotiator i have ever seen. he never left the room. it is, weve to say need our prisoners back. this was four years ago, they started the longest negotiation of ever seen. we have to have our prisoners back. the persians are great negotiators. it's tough. it is smartit's tough. , you say, we need our prisoners fact, you don't want them, you don't need them, you don't even know they are there. we need them. and will make a better deal
because it's easier. they will say no, and we will leave the room. we'll say bye bye and double of the sanctions. within 24 hours they will call and say you get your prisoners back. you go in for seconds. you have to do this -- you go in and say listen, my father was a good negotiator. he thought i was too rough. he said, you're too tough. you have to take the lumps out. he would always go like this, and say, son, take the lumps out. if i didn't have my father i would have said this "we're not , giving you the $150 billion." they would be over there they , would be angry, you probably never bring it back. i would say it tough "we're not , giving it to you." but now i learned so much my , father. so i take the lumps out. i say listen, we have a problem. prisonersantime, our back. i say, did our prisoners land yet? yes, they just landed on american soil. now i saw fellas, we have a big