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the events of the last two weeks have been physically and emotionally exhausting but also spiritually renewing. the procession of thousands of americans through the supreme court as dad lay in repose brought many of us great consolation. as for the funeral mass, we really did initially consider a small, private, latin mass. that's what dad would have wanted. but it fell to me to remind my mother, as it so often does, since when do we care what dad wants? [laughter] e wouldn't want us to change he wouldn't want us to change our way of doing things. as a family we recognize the opportunity should be shared with the large number of friends and faithful that relied on him. the joy and peace from that mass respond ft of many who
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to it. i learn of my father's faith. this is the great mercy. that our love for him and our understanding of his legacy continue to grow even in death, that we grow in a new understanding through the words and memories of others. some of my friends have expressed this so beautifully in the jewish tradition, may his memory be a blessing. it is that and also a source of grace and opportunity to grow in faith. thank you. [applause]
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>> the hill reports there were no signs of a break through when president obama meant with senate republican leaders. this was the first face-to-face meeting since the death of justice scalia. they spoke in the driveway after the meeting.
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senator reid: we completed a meeting with the president, senator grassley and mitch and we are point going to do what has never been done before. never in the hifert of the country has anything like this happened where a new person, hold hearings and won't nominate. and we are going to continue beating the drums. all we want them to do is
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fulfill the constitutional duty and do their job and at this stage, they have decided not to do that and wait and see what president trump will do, i guess, as far as the nomination. patrick. senator leahy: this is the fifth time i have been invited down to the white house to talk about supreme court nominees with republican presidents and i came ere at the time with president ford and the constitution makes it clear that the president shall nominate and the senate shall consent and advice. the senate is supposed to fulfill there. have a hearing, vote it up or down. don't pretend it doesn't happen. we have done it a dozen times.
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divided -- supreme court doing it for another two years makes no sense. it politicizes the courts. i have argued a lot of cases in trial courts and a.m. ate courts and go in there assuming you will be treated alike and outside of politics. we are sending a signal to our country and the world.
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senator reid: one thing the president remains clear. he said that over and over again and that has been done in the past. senator biden talked about coming down here with a republican president. this will be ok. he will be ok. but the president made it very clear. he is willing to talk about it. reporter: did they offer any? senator reid: no names. reporter: what efforts do you have to make it happen? senator reid: we have a constitution that says they are obligated to hold hearings and obligated to vote and more importantly, when they swore their oath each time they become
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a senator or the first time, they swear to uphold the constitution. they are not doing that. walking away from it. reporter: will democrats in the senate do anything to force them or pressure them? senator reid: we aren't going to play our the game of obstruction. we will do our job. what was the question? reporter: what do you think about donald trump doing in the presidential race? senator reid: the republican party is changing. trump, cruz and rubio, they are on the same kettle. they are all agreeing with trump. we are seeing a new republican party. as i said in my statement, i guess they want to wait until president trump subsidize who he
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wants to be on the supreme court. senator leahy: every one of these senators raised their hands when they are sworn in. uphold the constitution so help me god. you can't say we aren't going to uphold the constitution, you have taken a solemn oath. vote up or vote down. stop trying to politicize the supreme court. do your jobs. senator reid: we have a caucus. reporter: does senator grassley have a chance? senator reid: everybody has a chance and wasn't much said. reporter: vice president talk about it? senator reid: he did. he did, as i did on the interior, he read the whole speech. if you look, he said no nomination should be held up.
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senator leahy: republican president's nominee. mr. salmon: northbound northbound > the debate over the f.b.i.
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continued on capitol hill today at a hearing, bob goodlatte asked the f.b.i. director about a decision about a federal magistrate judge that sided with apple. we'll show you that exchange and see all of the hearing at -span.org. mr. goodlatte: in its brief dem the california case.
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mrs. watson coleman: this is about data at rests. they take acts of congress. what does it mean giving changing circumstances. there will be lots of lawyers and paid for work and courts have an understanding. mr. goodlatte: if the f.b.i. is successful in requiring apple to unlock this phone, that won't be a one-time request, correct? mrs. watson coleman: the issue of locked phones will not. r. goodlatte: will set a precedent and law enforcement agencies to seek assistance. mrs. watson coleman: any decision of a court is potentially useful which is a precedent is. having talked to experts. how particular this technique
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will be. but sure, other courts, other prosecutors, other lawyers for companies will look to that for guidance. mr. goodlatte: that technology once developed they could destroy again and have to re create, how competent are you, how confident are you that what you are requesting, which is the creation effectively of a code, how confident are you that will remain secure and allow all the other customers of apple, how confident are you that it will not fall into the wrong hands and make everyone's communication devices more ecure not less secure.
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i have a lot of faith in the company's ability to secure their information. icloud is not encrypted and i'm not worried if they are able to protect their information. they can protect their information. no thing is for certain. but these folks are pros. mr. goodlatte: the chair recognizes mr. conyers. mr. conyers: thank you, chairman goodlatte and welcome again to r forum, and the judiciary committee. it has been suggested that apple has no interest in helping law enforcement in any criminal case
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and that the company cares more about marketing than investigating a terrorist attack, in your view, are companies like apple generally cooperative the f.b.i. -- when the f.b.i. asks for assistance a kpped by appropriate legal process. did apple assist with this particular investigation? mrs. comstock: all american companies want to be helpful because they have families and children just as we do. that's the attitude we are meant with and in this particular case, apple was helpful. we had lots of good conversations to get this device open and they said, we aren't willing to go further and the government made a decision and we still have an avenue to pursue. i don't question their motives.
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mr. conyers: i sense that you are still reluctant to speak how your success in this case might set a precedent for future action. you indicated last week that his litigation may guide how other courts handle similar requests. could you alabet on that, please. mrs. watson coleman: i have been trying to explain this case is about this case. and worry about the pain becoming a vehicle for a broader conversation. everybody, the this is about that case. my wife has a great expression which is it's not about you, dear, this case in san bernandino is not about the f.b.i. or apple or congress or
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anything other than trying to do a competent investigation in an ongoing active case. that said, any decision by a judge in any forum is going to be presidential. either positive. the government lost the case yesterday and use as precedent against the precedent. that is the way the law works. mr. conyers: if you succeed in this case, will the f.b.i. return to the courts in future cases to demand that apple and other private companies assist you in unlocking security devices? >> if it is available to us and the relief as explained by the courts fits the power of the statutes, of course. mr. conyers: >> and timely, i think we can
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acknowledge that this case will set some precedent. and if you succeed, you will have won the authority to access encrypted devices at least for now. given that you ask us to provide you with that authority, since taking your position at the bureau and given that congress has explicitly denied you that authority so far, can you appreciate our frustration that this case appears to be a little bit of an end run around this committee? >> i don't recall a time when i asked for a particular legislative fix. and i also -- we are investigating horrific terrorist attack. there is a phone that is
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unlocked. we think there is a reasonable argument to use it to direct the company to open that phone. that is what is about, i would have been fired. it goes way beyond this case. this case will be resolved by the courts. it doesn't resolve the problem. guest: it's about amassing delegates and surviving the psychology of losing, because
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what happens we are seeing this play out now. bernie sanders iss
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strong of a challenger as he might be after new hampshire. the way iowa ended, he practically could've been a jump ball and clinton got the victory, but who knows? that he completely beat her in new hampshire and the pressure was on clinton in nevada.
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she won by about six points. south carolina, she crushed him. now we get into super tuesday states where she should be a lot stronger. we have seen her vivid to some general election messaging. sanders, yournie want to block that and pull out a surprise victory or hold her really close. when you look at the electoral map and this is what democrats have been telling me a well back before the voting started, she was going to have trouble in iowa and new hampshire, but the expected her to recover once the rate -- once the race moved to the south and if she does not recover by then, there would be a panic, but she has recovered. you win, you look strong, and despite the scandals over her head, she looks really good and the more she wins, the more democrats who may not necessarily have been thrilled about her candidacy start to look at her and say, not my first choice for which i would've had more choices, maybe
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thinking of bernie sanders, but she is not doing too bad. i will stick with her and i think that is what we will see coming out of super tuesday is in terms of voting, she is in a much better position than we thought just a few weeks ago. host: you mentioned the electoral map, take us through the map that is being tightly to the campaigns. that these are winner take all states today, but some of these have a certain threshold that candidates have to reach in order to achieve delegates. guest: i don't have it all in the back of my brain, but remember, when he states matters because of the psychology of winning and people start to ask you if you can't win a state, why are you still in the primary? but the way the primary calendar is set up in particular, all of the winners today are not going to win every delegate from each state, which means they will win proportionally. winning second or third still wins delegates which means you
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come out of super tuesday where the front runner, although far ahead of everybody is not in a position yet to wrap this thing up. it is not a defect of victory. -- not a de facto victory. in both the first-place finisher and second-place finisher in texas, which are likely to be trump and crews or crews and trump, andd cruz and rubio, who will finish in third would also have to finish above .0% to get a share of delegates the -- donald trump got the -- i believe there is a 20% vote threshold. host: these are the calculations
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taking place in campaigns, even if you come in second, you have to come in a strong second to be on the board. guest: look at where they have been over the past couple of days, where they travel to. host: linda is up first, california, democrats. caller: good morning. i was thinking about this election, and i kind of remember when i was in college, that i had to write a turn paper regarding morals versus morale and when you look to the -- listen to the republicans and loan from, i question, is the country now running on morality versus morals? that cannot be any idea of morals when you think of the three wives and we have to remember, he had his children by not one woman and when you denigrate and talk about races of people, this is now getting
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down to what i'm saying, are we morally american country or are we running on the hatred of the morale of -- the people are facing now. versus hillary, i grant she is not the cleanest, but she did not divorce her husband and this is the one thing that sheblicans keep running, did not divorce her husband after all that she went through assistantly, when her , aberdeen, went through her promise -- problems with her husband, she encouraged that young lady not to divorce her husband. i go back to morales versus morals. host: morals and trustworthiness, how it is factoring into voters. guest: a lot of assumptions about how these primaries are going to play out have been turned on their head, not all of them but a lot of them.
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certainly a lot of political analysts would have thought going into the presidential race that any republican candidate with a personal background of the business with background, would not necessarily have been a selling point with evangelical voters and voters who consider themselves very conservative, but he sold very well with them and i think that one of the things that is happening on the republican side is this desire for strong leadership and worrying about the details, later and i think one of the reasons donald trump has been successful in the primary so far is because you have seen on the right side of the voting letter, a -- you've also seen this on the left with a strong bernie sanders -- how strong bernie sanders has been and how much money he has raised, a real loss of trust in government and institution. when people argue that this one
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is not really a democrat in this one is not really a republican -- maybe all of the ways in which i just candidates before aren't -- haven't been so helpful and i should try something different and for some people, it is that sort of speculation and for some people, they are worried on the direction of the country that is kind of what i call throwing a political hail mary. what have i got to lose because the smart people messed it all up so why are you telling me to vote for the guy -- maybe he has let's go to just waiting in pennsylvania. jeff, good morning. caller: i have been a trump
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supporter since day one. i think bernie and hillary are socialists. usa today or something, someone wrote that blacks do not love donald trump. i think that is inherently racist. isn't something like that inherently racist to say blacks -- all blacks think the same? to me, that is racist. this is nothing against black people or any type of people, but why can't wait people have pride in who they are also? it is just saying you are proud of who you are as well. guest: this is going to be a challenge for trump and maybe it won't the. if you look at the uproar in the past couple of days, one day, he duke, the foreign
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leader of the ku klux klan, and then he says he had never heard of them. what you had were republicans and conservatives freaking out of this, and running around scared to death that somehow the guy who will represent their point of view in the political arena can just say, of course i disavow the kkk, that is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard, why would you bother asking me that. a lot of conservatives do not want to be associated with donald trump in dealing with these sorts of questions. it may benefit him politically, but it is different and it is something democrats will try to use against him. the article, david's column in the usa today, no, donald, we black folks don't love you. we know the difference between a reality show and a campaign.
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it follows along with what you were talking about with that interview on cnn. questions about david duke and the kkk. your story from the examiner something that has only grown since you wrote the story on the 25th in the past couple of days. establishment figures to even say to vote for him even if he was the nominee. something people need to understand, what i have found in a year of reporting, the donald trump phenomenon, it is not simply a case of the republican establishment, the leaders in washington and lobbyist, and everything else, reporters and journalists, everyone lumped into the establishment, i understand there is outright disgust and anger. we deserve a lot of what we get, the opposition to donald
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trump is not just coming from them. it is coming from ideological and philosophical conservatives on the front line of john boehner and mitch mcconnell, if you look at who is saying he will never vote for trump, whether or not it means a it isent hillary clinton, those people. for the political right, it is not just establishment is conservatives who toil on behalf of smaller governments and the enterprise and all the things that animate ideological philosophe inservatives, saying that their view, donald trump is for bigger government, they do not trust donald trump on any of the toues that is important them, the kind politician they do not want to be associated with it is not just the establishment.
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it is them as well and that is the interesting about the , that is growing and popping up in opposition to his candidacy. would point trump to the latest cnn poll that says 49% of republicans support him. people are that group of that you're talking about? we do not know how big. it is not just the leadership. it is a lot of conservatives fighting against. andand i reported this out we have seen different conservative groups complain that republicans on capitol hill were not wish and we conservative. there is the club for growth or heritage action for america. these are washington-based groups and our establishment in their own way. they are not party establishment. they are conservative establishment. they thought john mccain was not conservative enough. they had an unhappy will in a
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lot of the ways republicans nominate a senate candidate. they are opposed to the rnc. they are having problems with trump. the only point i like to make is it is broader than just the party worried about trump. it is conservatives who have also been aligned often against the party, people that were pushing for john boehner, speaker of the house. then you look at the voters. what we have seen in pulling and isthe votes, donald trump getting the support of conservatives and evangelicals and all the people we thought held never go for him, but is also getting support from people on the republican side of the thing of themselves as moderates and liberals, and that is one of the reasons he has done so well. there are people who are not him political for look at as a practical businessman and do not expect to be all that
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conservative or ideological, they expect to cut deals with democrats or anybody else and they are happy with that and that is what they want, or at least they whine outsider who is not a part of what you and i are part of. nearly half of all the people in the 12 super tuesday leaning toward republican and report 7% are evangelicals protestant churches , they make up a huge share of republicans and most of those states including majorities in tennessee, alabama, arkansas. 56 percent of republicans in oklahoma and newly half of those in texas. a lot of members being compiled by the pew research center in the 12 states. primaries and caucuses happening across the country. texas,r democrats in
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good morning. caller: i just don't know who. and i been blah blah blah am sick and tired that we are paying a salary to running dime with somebody else's money to spend, and they want to leave the country? it is like a sickening, both sides, there is no place to settle down. i feel i have to go to the polls and flip a coin. what i will go. i have been voting since i was 21. when i was 21, that was the first time you could vote. reallyer 80, but i am tired of this mess. it is just unbelievable. i am ashamed of us in the u.s. host: thanks for the call.
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david drucker on the undecideds know -- that is so important today? guest: 40% of people could change their mind. donald trump supporters could change their mind the least of anybody care one thing he has had is that once he locks in a voter, they tend to stick tougher than any other candidate. we know marco rubio has done a the job of winning latebreaking, undecided voters. we know ted cruz has had a good eighth of support. dynamic ofs has the the race really changed over the past four or five days as rubio and crews and a lot of other republicans -- and ted cruz and
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a lot of other republicans, started to shine a light on the kinds of things in his past that might get voters to reconsider why they like him. it may be too little, too late. i think we will see the campaign continue in the middle of florida, in the middle of march, through the florida primary. we will see if any of it works. -- don't trump on policy, but nobody really went after him as not eating the champion of the little guy the way he portrays pair we will see if the latebreaking money and attention we see shining on his business career changes going forward. on twitter, i think we will see a big change in the cycle. congressional primaries happening in three states,
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arkansas, alabama, and texas. what are the stories you are watching? senator richard shelby in alabama, who my sources in alabama tell me should win the anger inven washington and the love for outsiders, trump will win , shelby has had one of the biggest in washington. everybody in town here jokes it is the library fund, something around $20 million and he is finally had to spend some of it. renominated for another six years in alabama. the other race we are watching is in texas, in a real dogfight to win renomination. if you don't win 50% of the vote , you go to a runoff with the top two. even if radio wins three or four
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he is other opponents, heading for a runoff and that could be real dicey for him. ted cruz got to the senate because he was able to hold the front runner in 2012 to under 50%. a runoff one-on-one and ted cruz beat him. kevin brady took over as ways and means chairman, one of the assignments in washington and paul ryan was elevated to speakership, and he has had to spend around 11 -- around a million dollars of his own money , trying to hold onto his seat. it would be made point forth according to the calendar. all of this being covered on examiner.com. is a washington examiner senior correspondent who has been covering the issues for well over a decade here in washington.
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leon has to waiting to talk to you from brunswick, georgia, line for republicans. go ahead. caller: i have a statement and a question. i used to be a democrat for 65 years. today, my mind has changed to donald trump. i can see how hillary is rubbing elbows with black americans and lying to them like obama has done. bernie, he has a great plan that does not have the black votes to back him. rubio, he doesot not have enough experience and is a lobbyist control person, and ted cruz is, too. ted cruz can run for president, when he was born in canada? guest: this is where donald trump has been a master of using
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the media to push a storyline that normally would get no airtime. most constitutional scholars agree and there has been no question about this at all, so it's almost funny to talk about it, but these are the questions the voters have. ted cruz pass his mother is a natural born citizen, born in delaware in the united states. she traveled abroad, was working in canada. ted cruz was born. that makes him a natural born citizen. there has been some consenting up -- dissenting opinion but really nothing there. donald trump raises the issue and all of a sudden, it is like a legitimate issue that no one would pay attention to it were not donald trump. we all would have last -- left it off and thought the candidate was kooky. what the color shows is how people look at trump. andhave a lifelong democrat they look at trump as somebody
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not controlled by washington, and they like the idea that he is self funding the campaign even though he has except about seven dollars in donations and only loaned his campaign money. he could pay it back so it is not a donation your it if he wins the nomination, he will need donations to fund it because he will have roughly 500 million. the donations will come in. looking for seed money for that campaign. a reason he appeals to a lot of he is notocrats is about necessarily limited government and free trade and the kinds of things that have defined the republican party. maybe at their peril. he is not for entitlement reform for changing social security and medicare. he is very much appealing to democrats who did not have a the democrat
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domestic agenda of a culturally no longer felt at home or -- and felt ignored. trump deuce conspiracy theories a conduit -- an article. he uses his interests in his own back in 2011. guest: you have got to give him credit for this. we would have given him no airtime and laughed it off. instead, what we in the tv have done, we have gone to ted cruz and said, are you held all? are you a natural born citizen? trump makes this a mainstream issue. he a lot of credit for using an pushing media strategy the campaign forward in a way that allows him to use his celebrity to spend little money
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and use the freer and media available to him. i have had reaction to voters who have said to me, i do not know if donald trump is the best candidate that at least he is offering solutions. marco rubio, and even if you think they are unqualified, they often have policy proposals of what they would do as president. voters do not think they have because trump has monopolized the free media and it is something he deserves a lot of credit for from the perspective of political strategy. host: new mexico, democrats. caller: i follow david drucker and i respect him as a tellalist because i cannot if he is a republican or a democrat. that is encouraging. too many times, we are putting these labels.
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you can understand how compare bernie sanders and donald trump and put them in the same lane. bernie sanders has been saying the same thing for so many years. a demagogue. it is so obvious. i sometimes think the media plays into it. he plays the media so well. candidateer seen any in my life play the media as well as he does. they do not push back. it is like they are afraid of him. i just wish he were called out more. is totally opposite from bernie sanders. bernie sanders has been this way for so long. he is genuine and true. he is not a demagogue at all. i do not necessarily disagree with anything the caller said. bernie sanders has held the same ideology and has been consistent his entire political reader.
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donald trump was a liberal democrat until rather recently, and has had a change of heart. if it was not convenient for his presidential ambitions. he has a different style and it comes to reaching out to voters than does bernie sanders. they they are the same is both are attracting a disaffected voter who feels like no one has listened to them. when it comes to issues of trade and entitlements, social security and medicaid and medicare, they are really not all that different in terms of biggery would approach issues. in matters of foreign policy, they are on all that different -- not all that different. all that wedded to the idea of the united states as the guarantor of global security, as we have seen post-world war ii. host: an interesting question
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today the day after a photojournalist was slammed to the ground at a donald trump event, something that made weights on social media. i do not know if our colleagues are afraid of donald trump at we have let him get away with simply would not have let anyone else get away with. think ted cruz and marco rubio have made a valid point in their complaints about trump. they are self-interested and they are trying to beat him. as wed to understand this highlight some of their complaints. one of their complaints is valid and we looked into the background of rubio and cruise -- and ted cruz and we know he has traffic tickets and he drank beer in a park when he was 18. it was only in the past few days as both of am heightened their attacks on trump's business background that i saw's really asking about trump university
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and what kind of workers he hires to work at his club in florida and all of that. they have a point we have not done the kind of vetting we would normally do. gave a kidt romney allege he when he was 15. not a nice thing to do, but i do not know what relevance it had to a man's presidential race. he basically lived a reasonably moral life. all those things to it with trump, we just have not paid attention to it whether it is the entertainment value for the fact he has put so many of his candidates on the defensive, that we're asking, donald trump -- just said -- i am not sure where the blame lies, but there is truth to the idea we have not done, at least to him, what we have done two other candidates.
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host: brian is on our line for republicans. i am voting for donald trump it i went to school and got a good job to provide for my family p or my wife went through law school. we could afford anything, and wen she got through that and started to make a good income and started providing for our family. the value of providing for your family and what you want in life is gone. bernie sanders wants to take from the rich and give to the poor and hand over the rest of america and make it fair. what is fair about people to provideir butt for their families? why donald trump instead of other republican candidates? what was the appeal? caller: you have to give some
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and make it pretty for big businesses to come back here. you cannot force them to stay. make it look good for them to want to come back. and have factories here and create jobs here. other people are like taxes, he will raise taxes. you cannot lower taxes on the rich. there are a lot of people who do not feel they are getting enough for what they are working. there is a big overhang for the great recession. they do not feel the administration has done enough for that congress has done enough to make their lives better. people either do not have the jobs they want or they are not of theirough for all hard work. it is frustrating and they feel no one is listening. it is hard to listen to republicans or democrats in
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.ommerce -- congress it is hard for the governors who are running. you are the people in government and you're supposed to listen to us and make your lives better. you are ignoring us. here is a guy saying he will fix things. here is the foot side and here's what is interesting. that is why i understand why the caller and others are some orting trump. we just heard how he interprets trump. it is true that trump has a rather conservative tax cut and that would lower a lot of taxes, when donald trump talks about how he will bring jobs act into the country, he does not actually say mostly with the caller just said. he says i will threaten a trade war and i will threaten tariffs ifig huge they do not play by the rules that i want them to.
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he also says someone making a lot of money will pay more in taxes. people like a candidate, and people are unhappy with the they hear what the candidate is saying in a year with a want to hear. donald trump spent a lot of time anding about tariffs threatening actions on trade, then he does in terms of just lowering taxes and convincing people to come back in. at the same time, he got tax reform that would lower a lot of taxes by raising taxes. host: the primaries take place on the eighth. don is waiting in michigan. caller: how can hillary clinton there is a criminal
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investigation against her? i cannot understand that. if you could please answer my question. there is no longer running for president if there is a criminal investigation into anything you have done. the big question for hillary clinton as she starts to mockup delegates and win states here, really looking like the democratic nominee, how big of a deal is it that the e-mail scandal and the investigation into the use of the prior server , whether she handle -- handed over private information, what is the justice department going to do and when will they finish the investigation, will the ortice department indict her will the fbi determined they will not refer her for indictment. there are so many questions. all the e-mails have now
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been released, we have seen the news stories in the paper about that. guest: this is a big problem for can put ituntil she to rest. even if she gets the indictment issue off the table and let's say for the state -- for the sake of argument, the fbi says she did nothing wrong and there is nothing more to see and she clean, she will have to explain why she chose to use a personal e-mail server that put sensitive information of foreign at risk government hacking into it and getting a hold of it when she was such a sensitive, major position of the government. host: do you think bernie sanders made a mistake by not hammering that point more on the e-mail? guest: yes. i have talked to a lot on the trail and while most of them
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thought this was a big republican plot, a lot of voters just did not want to vote for hillary and he needed a reason. i talk to voters young and old who would bring up the e-mail scandal to me unprompted. these were democratic voters some at rallies. when you're running on primaries, you have to attack your opponent where they are vulnerable. the whole thing surrounding the benghazi terrorist attack, viewed as a republican plot, they are after obama and just after hillary. but it was a weak point for her and they should have used it. they are using that as a reason to vote for hillary. it helped them use the other her -- they do not like it shows you are not really serious if you are not attacking at their weakest. host: one of the 12 states voting today, three caucuses
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going on. jacob is waiting in tennessee. a couple of minutes left. i have a question about -- with republicans and if that could happen. guest: i never thought it could but it turns out i was wrong. it is possible. how of it is determined by they do today in relation to donald trump and how many and some ofn win these candidates, whether rubio in florida or john kasich, the ohio governor later this month, and they win these winner take all states and the donald trump and keep from getting from 1237 delegates. he gets that and it is over. they can get through the primary season and he is short, then it gets to a situation where it is possible we have a tested convenon

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