tv Discussion on the State of Race in the U.S. CSPAN March 30, 2016 6:01am-7:01am EDT
one, if i'm getting this right, are you ready for the answer? i think we did a great job so far. i really enjoyed it. if you 30-layer sandwich have the appetite. that is what we are seeing in the elections, too. but i am not seeing the numbers. i am not seeing them come out in the numbers and i am talking about the three major communities with ben discussing. african-american, latino american, asian americans. the numbers are not there. that question of, within the context of the state of rights that we are discussing, i am watching those numbers and what are the issues that will determine these three communities to participate at the same levels or greater levels we saw in the last two cycles because as i was saying earlier, i believe the stakes are just as high if not later. >> i agree.
let me ask someone to raised their hand to would like to ofticipate on this question how it transfers from the conversations we had before about the knowledge campus and the neighborhood into the national neighborhood with regard to the 2016 election. >> hello. i am karen, i am a white methodist lawyer, lifelong advocate for the rights of women and children. it, a very reluctant voter in this election. theseot feel like candidates are representing my issues. i do not feel like they care about me. they do not care about race which is one of the primary issues i care about. racial justice.
i think the reason we are not seeing the numbers is because the communities are not feeling and gauged. i do not think the campaigns are speaking to them. and if i am reluctant to vote for someone so parallel to me in demography, i can only begin to who about how people feel are not that close to them. drugs when you say them, when i look at the lack of results, but i do see strong turnout for hillary clinton on the democratic side of my minority groups. >> you see strong turnout? >> voting patterns. >> look at how well she is faring among young generations. she is struggling to engage in younger voters and to build into that are coming out now. >> in and so the question we are
focus on in this discussion is how does that play into inclusion. is it clear that in fact you say the message from politicians and disincentive rises minorities and women from participating in the political process? >> i think i'm we have candidates who are inclusive demonstratend to these values not to just with their word but with their actual actions a hand with their histories, their public service over a great deal of being able to engage across difference and overcome their own implicit biases to be able to treat people with dignity and the respect they deserve, i think you will continue to see levels of disengagement or you will see a whole new crop of elected officials. see newis that you will
work politicians representative of these communities who will fight and create the respect their communities deserve by demonstrating their political power. >> let us keep moving and talk about how we transferred the inclusion from neighborhoods and college campuses to the broader political structure. mr. mayor, you said during one of the panels you are working every day to get a democrat elected. we just heard concern that in fact there are level -- lower levels of participation coming from minority populations in the site mean they will stay home? >> no. i only heard a part of the exchange back in forth. a couple facts. first, and one pointed this out, thes abundantly clear as
presidential campaign goes south and west and back east, secretary clinton is in fact benefiting significantly from a theificant response from african-american and latino communities to her candidacy. it was mentioned earlier about young people. you know, latin americans, latinos, african-americans, one of the things i think is exciting certainly for the young least is that, at according to senator sanders, virtually everything in america will be free. know -- youyou can't get excited about that message. -- you can get excited about that message. the headattle here for and the hard. how do you getting stung done? how to make things happen? we have seen some of the challenges president obama has experienced with this congress, including standing in the way even of a hearing for a nominee to the united states supreme court.
in modernr president history who has won two election has served a full eight years. he gets to be resident until january 20, 2017 at 12 noon. except, this president, who according to the senate republicans is no longer president. but he has done his constitutional duty and put up a candidate. >> is that racial? yeah. [laughter] tracked i mean, my children called that one for -- >> i mean, my children called that one. senator sanders does very, very well and communities that are not particularly diverse and secretary clinton has been challenged, particularly with middle-class white males who are not hearing the jobs message or ory are antiestablishment
whatever. there's a lot going on in the united states of america right now but at least on the democratic side there is a real contest, not a circus. candidateswo quality who are talking about things that really matter. so we will get to the primary season. there will be a democratic nominee, a republican nominee, and at that point all of us will get much more serious. think the focus of the question was inclusion. but you do not have a sense that minorities and women feel that they do not have a voice. the they cannot be heard in 2016 political cycle. >> yeah. i don't know. i just do not know if that is about race or if that is just about politics and government and the erosion people have felt. >> you have seen lower levels of turnout among minority groups so far. but you are not fearful going towards november?
>> no. i think there will be a full engagement by those who want to book. arefull are issues, why people not voting? not just in this election cycle, but all across the united states of america. is it voter id laws? and for full promises? you can include myself in that, you elected officials cannot get anything done. does it matter? that goes to the heart and soul of what democracy is all about. and people lose faith in the system we have a bigger problem the and what the candidates do or say or what of the case may be. ask i wanted to ask you to join in here because i think we're all talking about the asian community. and whether people feel they are being heard and included. about the minorities in the country and often times people, you know, start with the american -- african american community, then the hispanic community, and the asian community growing and rapid numbers.
one of the fastest-growing immigrant populations in the united states is asian. what about political inclusion?on and do people feel they have a right to participate in the structure? >> yes. that is the message we have to carry to the community. dolet them know that if they not participate, their concerns will never be heard. about healthed care, access to health care, they are concerned about housing. you know, putting food on the table. you know, asians are not the minority. there is diverse city within the diversity. there are many people, especially in the pacific islander community, that are living in poverty. and so, if you cannot connect with them and explain to them that by voting you are -- you can change -- you can make that
change. in agent of change. in so it is very important that we mobilize our community to let them understand that their voice and their vote counts and it can make a difference. this is why republican or democrat, they are all courting the asian american communities. and, they understand that if they come out and vote in register in vote is can make a big difference. you see that nationally. all over our courting the asian american community. >> ok. let us extended to young people. -- do you you, used see young people staying away because nobody is hearing them or do you see young people coming into the feeling they can 20 16luded in the political process question mark >> right. on the question of inclusion, i think what a lot of you and people are looking at its specifically, i am more
knowledgeable about the presidential democratic campaigns, but i think both hillary and bernie are very much by and for the black vote and the asian vote. youngk what a lot of the people are looking at is, you know, are they for real or is this posturing. so you have a bernie sanders campaign of which i believe it was on a commercial, an advertisement, in which he had -- is that freddie graves daughter? or air garners daughter? i think you know, hillary, just after her win in the primaries was very much into the concerns of millennials. is, areink the question they just posturing or is this really something they are trying to include our voices in? i think that is a question a lot of people are still trying to figure out with a lot of the kind of vying are these different subgroups of voters. jump in here? to
>> i remember august 2014 in st. louis, people told us to go vote. we were like, the voting is not stopping tear gas. this notion that people had to push systems to be that her. i do think voting is part of the solution and i am more than the messaging from the older generation has not said this is one way to make change but instead has said it is the only way to make change and i think that message is what turns people off and i do think there are people who feel like a vote for a candidate is legitimizing a system that never worked for them. not, i think the feeling israel and i would encourage you, you know, i met with hillary, i met with bernie, i met with president obama and loretta lynch, many people. they're asking us to support -- you know, people, people do not see how the government has
positively impacted their lives. and like that storytelling has to happen to get people in it. we all know the government will exist to my would you vote or not. so it is more important that you put some steak and the ground because in the absence of that stake there are a whole lot of people who do not like people who look like me who are surely going to put their stakes in the ground, right? and i think the story of how the government is going to be had for people or has done good work is an important story for people to tell for them to be vested again. >> that is interesting to me. you think that may be a result of a lack of feeling that they are agents of change, that people say, you know what? i am just not going to vote. it is not that anybody is suppressing me, taking away my polling station, discouraging me, i just don't see a personal need to be include in what may be considered to be a charade. >> it has never worked. >> the idea that my vote doesn't
matter, i still got tear gassed even though i voted. i voted my whole life and it did not change. the feeling, whether it is not true or it is, the feeling israel. there are people energized by bernie. i think there are people energized by hillary. totook out that pressure talk about race as opposed to just talk about it. right? black people existed way before this primary election and it is hard to see people, even people you like, only talk about the amongic injustice racialized when people steal and take away from them. i think that is hard for a lot of the younger generation. >> all right. who wants to jump in? wait until you get a microphone. here we go. >> thank you. is it also fair to say the engagement and inclusion are subsequent to ownership?
because i think what happens in a lot of minority populations i have seen, you do not necessarily feel like this country belongs to you. i consider myself an exception to that role but we hear a lot of times on one side of the political spectrum, and i am not identified one way or the other, but we hear, you are a great american, you're a great know,t, this country, you need you. on the other hand, it is insinuated your less than an american and it is permeated into the general electorate. black americans do not vote much on statewide or regional. but on the national cycle every four years, the turnout does g up. that is part and parcel of the fact that there is a lack of ownership of you feeling like you are not only in america but this is home for you. immigrant or not, american or naturalized citizen, i think there has got to be some perhaps rewiring of education and people need to realize if you are a
minority in this country, and you happen to the americans it's in, you have just as much right to affect change. sure, there might be some exasperation from people who have voted for many years and have not seen change, but a lot of times it goes back to, do you really feel like this is your country? i happen to feel like this is my country. that i am not sure the same thought process is shared by the majority of minority populations. >> we're at the conclusion and we are hearing this message that people feel like their voice is not been heard. i have not been included. they are not allowed really to express her get response. but you have a black president. somehow didnk if it not make a difference, i find that kind of stunning. on the surface, somebody help me. [laughter] >> thank you. king,d like to quote john king, who said, my people
built this place in dynamite way around. there have always been those disaffected voters who never read george orwell when they were young and feel like there is a choice between, if i am a sheep would i prefer for the lie to each me or the wolf to rip me apart. because it is the same thing no matter what you do. however, i do not believe that. i do not think the facts are that out. let's talk about some of the facts we know. statistically speaking, the most powerful and engaged voting bloc, statistically speaking, is a black american woman. ok? lack women put barack obama in the white house in 2008 and resoundingly again in 2012. lack women show up at peoples with their mama, there are just serve, their sister, and their hairdresser.
they bring more people to the polls than any other group there are in this country. so, everybody with a black mother, sister, person in their life is literally being touched by somebody who understands the power of that ballot. who understands the power of that voting block that she belongs to. let's look at chicago. anita alvarez, the prosecutor who knew about the tape of wasnald, one year before it forced to be released. did nothing about it. --chicago -- i am forgetting in cleveland, the prosecutor that declined to press charges when two officers got out of a car and within seconds, 12-year-old to mayor rice was shot dead. -- for thoseor
black folks and other folks, too, but i am speaking about the democratic i belong to that i -- the demographic i belong to and have researched in my own work. enough is say, enough. let us go local. let us show up and out these people. show what happened. the problem is on the national level, districts are so gerrymandered it is impossible for the black majorities, again i am speaking specifically to the area of my expertise right now. those black majorities have been broken up because i am district a and this person hears district b, which makes no sense but it guarantees a particular party will be elected. that are the laws encouraging the voter suppression we see. this is the voter fraud we see, not me trying to vote as my dad and mother. the -- as my dad grandmother.
dead grandmother. go to thenk arms and polls, this is what we see happening. a change happening in the way people are voting now. we understand there are rigged systems, mostly gerrymandered in a lot of places. races toumbers and key do key things alstom that prosecutor. put in this particular person. that could happen. last thing i want to say, because this has not come up at all -- >> let us stay on this topic. we will be here. >> i am just a passionate about this. reince you were saying, you know, people, are we going to see it? but there was an excellent point. definitely get out info. i do not think there is any
question about what the mayor was saying about the clintons. i do not think there's any question they have propelled her vis-a-vis the kind of populist energy we have seen for bernie sanders. not hear you.d you are saying something? >> i was talking about this race, 2016. >> anyway, we have a special mystery guest from the political structure. a leader of the political structure. so, please. >> i will not identify myself. i will keep it a mystery. what you focus on said. it made me think about how i was politicaln this process. my name is mignon. i grew up being raised continually by a political family and what you said is so true. one of the reasons you brought up about the differences in
midterm and national turnout is because we do not see where our votes count. not see where our vote counts and why we feel that way? why do we feel that way? i counter with some risk of me saying this, the current construct. we do not look at other constructs around the world that will allow for personal voting. your voice will be heard in more of a weighted fashion as opposed winner-take-all gerrymandered approach. we do not have enough conversation about other types couldstructs that possibly even change that. if i have a voice on city council as opposed to countywide typeme -- you know -- some of -- you know -- orientation that will not allow my voice to be heard. maybe then somebody will say, that is my person because in a proportional sense, i voted.
we could just challenge on a state, national, and local level that could change that. it would have a voice and change the paradigm of just every four years you see this uptick in to every other year and state and local you see flat. it is not uncommon for 12-20 percent turnout to elect a mayor or city council. something is wrong with that. >> i want to make sure we stay on point. mignon: i'm sorry. >> no, you were on point. if this is about inclusion, people choosing to participate and dealing the political structure in 2016 reflects their will, concerns, and agenda. >> you are at the fcc. in terms ofhat political pressure on media in america? >> yes. [laughter] mignon: and i say that with hesitation.
all of this is reflected. we can look at how the races are handed now. -- handled now. very much influenced where the media thinks the headline and the uptick in the numbers of the day will be. all of these things are influenced and driven in some cases, you know, to our dismay by all of this. it is all a straight line. if you have more of a voice at the state, local, and federal levels by maybe challenging ourselves to change the current construct, then i think we will see the shift. >> if people vote they can create change even in terms of american media is what you're saying? and the change will be covered. the process of that change will be covered. so, yes. when you see a trend moving it and you are doing your job's a journalist, yes. absolutely. >> but what you heard from
derailleur is that people still do not feel as if that vote is really going to make a difference. deray. mignon: our voter construct is not one that lends itself to multiple voices to be heard. there are hamlets in new england and places around the world and i keep running back to the proportion of voting that you will have a voice. it might not be a majority voice, but it will be a voice. the way we have a set up his countywide. you have to get the entire county. you might not get the entire county but you might get 49%. thanf a voice is greater zero. no, no, no. we're on the same page. i am with you. there isu think something about telling that story differently so people can see that voting is the way to bring about change. what happened in chicago is interesting recently.
people organizing to change. said immediately, does not have a clean slate. it is an important message, it was not like it was getting out to replace her and told those people accountable. i think that is a good model. >> that point about proportional representation was really raised in the early 1990's and really cut down i thought unfairly, because it was in idea, but that is what cumulative voting is in corporations. it is done in various places and it is an idea that really maybe makes sense. it is just very hard in this country to get that going. but it is in interesting idea that i wanted to reinforce. that is something that could be done if there were political will. ofif you had that kind
proportional voting, then you would say it would lead to then proportional representation of minorities? instance. you have, say, 10 congressional districts in a state. geographic. what you could do is say, you have 10 votes. you are in the state of north carolina, i do not know how many congresspeople they have. you have 10 votes, you can put all 10 votes into one person or five in one person and five in another hand what that allows is for minority communities, if they, you know, focus on a few people to get, let's see there is 40% minorities, you could strategize so you can get 40%. >> rather the n the minority vote dispersed across the county and therefore not right. unofficial. >> right. it is an idea that happens, as i said, in some countries and
reparations. >> ok. youhance, i wanted to get in the conversation again. we're for it a little bit about young people and medical participation. campus,g people on your is your camp is mostly minority? >> no. >> it is mostly first generation. what he 5% or so. >> what is your experience on that campus? what is the age range? >> multiple. >> but i mean, most people are -- >> older. >> very interesting. as an older campus, do you think those people feel they have a political voice in america today? >> some do and some do not will stop it is not a straightforward understanding of what their rights are. i think they are politically a they do participate in voting and i think that it is
really important for us to tell the story about why it is so important to vote. -- even if it is for symbolic purposes because it represents a way of identifying with a past that was so destructive and was given new life i the ability to vote. i am sitting here just saddened by a notion that we do not remember how we got the right to vote. certainly african americans and others in the 1960's. in the 1960's we were talking about these issues, so for us to think our votes do not count -- >> you should talk to him. >> im. i am talking to him right now. but he said the story is not out there. so we have got some homework to do if the story is that focused
on the shortness of memory, because we did not have the right to vote. we could not fun. we lay down our lives to vote. -- we laid down our lives to vote. hello. i am with vox.com. one of the things i wanted to talk about was not only the panel, but we're talking about how people -- people don't like the term minorities, particularly in conversation, how we understand count. i think we are talking about it in a quantitative sense but it is also qualitative. we are talking about inclusion. i think it is important to put -- not to predicate the way young people of color, the way we -- the way they are understanding count to be solely deray was making
a point about. like going back to chicago and organizing. very important to not only in general but also what has been going on with the political campaigns. rally.mp one of the things you have to understand is that even if we hear young people of color who may be undecided or not to impressed by, for instance, on the democratic side, hillary or burning. that does not mean people do not understand and are not participating in the political situation and so i think it comes from the fact that, like, besides to not necessarily see, do not they sell they count solely on the vote. they are participating in ways on apush but do not depend political situation that for a much so often times has let them down. they know that. that is part of the resistance. to make sure people are held accountable. in chicago, people remember people were chanting at the trump rally, bernie sanders.
and there is a way from the media standpoint, it was easy for people to try to pin this on, there were bernie sanders to supporters whors interrupted the rally. but it is more complex than that. you had organizers from various activist organizations in chicago. not just black. notches black lives matter. it is not that easy. like a search, clicking. the blood of been doing this for a long time. i mean, there are voters my age or young people of color who are very much organizing against rot or systemic issues of and justice and to understand that work comes from, at times, maybe politicians or not but not basing it solely on that. if we are going to talk about a situation left you include that in the conversation and included in the possibilities. >> let me stop you. let me stop you.
[over talking] thank you. when we talk about inclusion and a political structure, when you see the tremendous turnout of voters for trump, you understand the power of a vote. if you're saying we have to make space for people who may not view their power in terms of -- are that vote, but to you suggesting therefore that people should be seen to say, i am political i just do not vote. i choose not to participate in that way. >> i am not here to tell people what they should do or not do in terms of voting. i think it is making space for people who do not have the choice. some people are just not able to vote. like, we actually have policies that make it impossible for people to vote and most of those people are people who are people
of color and most of those people are not trump supporters. we do not exist in a world that allows us free opportunity to choose for everybody in the comes from a quality and notion of how we understand voting for trump. >> ok. my perspective is voting counts. and i do not think it is a case where you have to ignore people to participate in different ways. everybody, please join in this conversation. treat by this. we have been talking about inclusion all day, and as a former university administrator, part of the idea of inclusion is feeling like you belong. we know that phrase, the climate studies, feeling up a logging does. what we also have to understand and it meant heart of the inclusion is not in the onus of the population but the institution.
boston tea party was not just about belonging to england, policy.bout in just no taxation without representation commissar inclusion is not just about the feeling of an aggrieved party, it is also about, what are the actual intentions and practices and policies of an organization institution and what are the impacts they are having. the organization can be intentionally inclusive or not. that is a choice. sometimes we are focusing a lot on how people feel and we all know that feelings do not change policy. >> i am trying to bring a point what you just that. you are saying, feelings do not change policy. votes change policy? if people vote? drugs sometimes. >> because you can't lose, too.
>> and sometimes you can win and still the policies do not change. alone, votes alone, do not change policies. but institution's change and sometimes tearing down institutions have changed policies. we are a country founded in revolution. founded in rebellion. say, this does not work for us and we do not want to do this anymore we are going to start something new. ask is it a case that politics 2016 could be inclusive, not inclusive, but people, especially minorities are saying it does not work for us. >> i think there are many, many voices. no one answer for any community. some will choose to participate through community organizing, sumter voting, some through both, some through academic research, some of us will choose to participate in the we talk to .nd what we say there are multiple. multiple ways to be present.
we need to honor all of those .ays and we can't critique i come from a community of people of you say you do not vote, people look at you funny. , we have too learn learn that is not the only -- voting -- we'll know voting does not mean things are going to get what we want. we've all -- many of us have worked really hard to elect people and watch the things we thought elected them for not happen. [applause] >> so we know it is not the answer. it is a heart of the process. >> is so what if you do not vote and you still do not get what you want? >> that happens, too. both happen. we have to knowledge both. you can vote and nothing changes will stop you can not vote and nothing changes or it might get worse. >> let me go backwards. you know elected politics.
your family knows elected politics. how do you respond to this? >> the answer is, i agree. all of the above. is the igniter of change does that concept spark? we do not live in vacuums, thank goodness. bewe allow ourselves to open. what you are saying is, how do i justify my position. -- how are problems or challenges in our communities that i should address, how do i find out about it. you know, activism and disenfranchised groups let me know. all of this things are facilitators and it is always like church. you know, how do you -- you know, just coming off the easter season -- how do you, you know, really, go to the best of your objectives. you have got to meet people
where they are. and that is, you know, foundational he, where we are. facilitators of change. those who are stagnant and those who want a wholesale change. in order to get change, educate both, bring about, you know, the betterment if that is your goal, somehow we need to both moved to that center and that is how we facilitate. >> ok. easter season, i don't forgive people who do not sacrifice for the greater good. know,ople tell me, you you got to understand. you got to be kind to people who choose to not vote and not participate. they of other ways they can make themselves heard. i thought, they are giving up power and the opportunity to create change. >> well, if you go back to the prodigal son and the rest, those other stories, you have got to know you do not know what tomorrow brings and no one, you know, you do not know what that spark or influence will be and maybe that person's stagnation is what drives you harder.
>> drives you harder? >> you harder question mark argue either ignore them or forgive them. >> you learn from them. sometimes it causes you to be becauseven or committed of them. every element, i believe, i do not know if i'm becoming more caustic in my old age. i had a birthday last week. saying know, when i am is every encounter, if you allow it to be a learning experience that will propel the two of you. maybe that person who does not exercise their franchise in now way, maybe your influence to or enableempower them them or open their minds and other ways. >> ok. when of the things that -- my name is joy cheney and i run an organization called equal pay today and i'm glad to be a. and i'm glad i have a job that
allows me to sit at the aspen institute institute symposium. most people do not have the opportunity to be him. they do not want to protest. they don't want to be part of a movement. they want to work. they don't want free stuff. they want a job. they want to our and whatever is they want. they want to send their children to good schools, be paid fairly, they don't want to be sexually harassed at work. it is really a six step. i think all of us, political class, media, african organizations, i think we are seeing way over people's heads. not because we are smarter than them, but because we are not engaged with their engage in every sildenafil stop so going back to the question of why are people not voting? sometimes all politicians, they are not talking to people about what they are dealing with on an everyday basis. they are not telling a story about how things are said at federal level affects their
everyday life. look at politicians are not even talking about how policies are set at the state and local level. how does that affect their everyday life. the media does not bring out advocacy groups and organizations that do them that they actually know. the councilwoman talked about african-american voters is of all african-american voters are the same. class, upper middle-class african voter is extremely different from an african class african-american voter and in the asian american communities, all of the diversity that is not. we talk so generally. immediately a person is like, they do not know what i am going through because they're lumping me into one category. there is a real gap in between what real people are dealing with and what our politicians are talking about with what the media covers. >> so here's the question. your is the question from my perspective.
excuses forng people who do not get involved and see that political structure is how changes most often can greatly achieved in america? >> no excuses. i believe in voting, nooks uses. that said, if our goal is to get more people to vote we have to meet them where they are. i knew a pediatrician in orlando, florida, and she had one vile. hadshe met the -- and she vow, she met the people where they are. some people of questions like, where do i take my can while i vote. are you going to have your child standing in line with you five or six or seven hours? that does not sound good. that sounds really inspirational. on a practical level, it is 90 degrees in november in florida.
you can have your kid out there with you all day? is a real thing. reds i would come back, i would think that you would find a way to make sure that the kid, there was some way to take care of that kid. because i am not going to make excuses for voters who ay -- mayor nutter, you went out of the room. [laughter] >> and i said, you know, there is somebody who does not understand and inclusion. does not understand the power of anticipation. a very have been having spirited conversation here about whether or not you make excuses is notple you say voting the be all and end all, i participate in other ways. am i being there? no? no ahead. said, oh no, you are not being fair. tell mayor nutter what you think
is a fair assessment of where this conversation is going. no ahead. i vote. i am going to vote. everybody in my family is going to vote. that after years of voting, when you have people stand, number one, we watched eight years of president obama disrespected. , my vote matters. you should not even think about disrespecting the president. >> is that a reason to stop voting? >> no. i am just saying you have to see it how other people might. because they do not see the difference. upyou have somebody standing there saying, americans want this when they are saying, only
people that look like me and take like me are american. >> so how does that help if you do not vote? ask it may not. it you have to look at how people feel. it is not going to make a difference. >> how people feel as opposed to how people vote? >> i kind of conceptualize the issue in this way. it is not about should you vote or should it. you know, people should vote. one?ow was that vote people said, whitman and i am being oppressed. the way people are not being oppressed is if i had to write about, then i'm not being oppressed in congress and other places. some people got the right to vote. now, people are saying nothing has changed. and what they realize is, maybe the rules of change. change.e rules so, people got the right to vote but if districts have been gerrymandered, right, then i do
not have that representation i thought i was going to. if we have a voting laws, voting id laws, these are structural barriers that stop people from having access. opt-in.eople have to why not have people opt-out. we make it so easy for people to vote for american idol and everything else, you know. we can do it in our home come on the computer, people figure out how to do what they want to do. it ist i questioning is, the structural issues. the structural barriers in place that are stopping people from on.ging will stop >> hold >> one more thing. >> hang on. president obama. so many minority specifically african-americans, to turn out. me,now you are saying to
some people feel like, well that did not create change and the vote did not make a difference. is that right? bags here's the thing. all politics is local. what isstart looking at happening locally, right, how people are engaged locally. if i go to my polling place and and it says,lot two or three out of the of five for these judges and i do not know who these judges are, am i making an informed choice or am i saying, oh i am just went to choose these names i think are ok. i do not know who i'm voting. now i just possibly elected judges who, when their cases that come before them, are not going to make good traces that are based in equity and access for people's color. so, there are structural things happening where people are not making choices and being pushed out of the electorate and those
of it ifst the part there's going to be changed. there has to be change and my question is, do the powers that be really want that. do they really want those groups to be engaged in the process? >> i think the answer is people who have power want to hold onto power, exercise power to their advantage. if you choose not to vote that is a pretty big step. what i hear in this audience is people saying -- well -- >> it is also voting but there are other ways to be engaged in the political process so how does information go out to be a poll worker. how does it go out to be elected to be a selection judge? the point is, is the information being provided in a way. meeting people where they are said they can get involved. folksot know if they want to be involved in that way to hold onto power.
the emphasis of inclusion as i hear it here it is much more saying the system is not doing outreach to make sure people feel they are wanted and included in politics. >> you hurt my feelings, i do not care. is, no. when i was a younger all, my mom dragged me around. petitions.gn kaman, we got a go. so i understand these things. what i'm saying is it should not accident of geography. it should not be an accident. -- this is the information. transparency. this is how we move forward as a community to have inclusion. >> mayor not her, i think you have now heard what you missed. saying there are is other ways to participate, other ways to value inclusion. it is not just the vote.
i know we are under time pressure. i would say very quickly -- mayor nutter: i know we're under time pressure. there is never any excuse or justification for not voting. having said that, why did we vote on tuesday? who decided that? why not money? why not saturday? why not someday? or, early voting? some states haven't. i was on the radio for my candidate yesterday. wisconsin election is coming up, early voting is going on right now. in pennsylvania, we had a voter id law. they wanted no voters. not early voting. who makes these decisions? and pennsylvania, the general assembly. data you vote, when do you
vote, early voting? all of these decisions. you can be halfway around the world and do your banking transactions and for the most part, of us in many hacks the system, they are safe and secure. it you will not limit vote in that way. idol could do the american thing, where i think recently, more people -- voting ine absentee pennsylvania? >> yes, if you're not going to be there. but there are states in america where you can start voting two weeks in advance. >> unless everybody is going to be away. >> yes. nooks are saying, all of this is going to change. now. now we are post-racial. etc.. he walks into the great recession. all of that peace, love, and happiness one month later when up the window. as i mentioned earlier, not one house republican voted for the economics of his plan and only three others did.
nice seeing you, mr. barack obama. theome to being resident of united states of america. so i think that voting does matter. yes, there are districts that are gerrymandered but not when it comes to voting for the mayor of the city. we had a low voter turnout in our most recent election question. not for governor and certainly not when it comes to the president of the united states of america. change takes time. are we really want to be question mark know. i would where we used to be? no. in the interim, change has happened. a lot of which came because people were voting and paying attention. juan: ok. it is time to wrap this up. we had panels today on the campus on inclusion. racial inclusion, gender inclusion, identity inclusion on the campus. then we had a session on neighborhoods and vast-changing
neighborhoods and how to maintain a sense of longing, inclusion again in the neighborhood. richard, you raised your hand. do want to finish as a pair? richard: you kept is right on point on this idea of inclusion and we started to also discuss participation. it was a great conversation as we made it around the room. i think it is that happy tension between the two. because they are different, right? inclusion and participation. count me. i need to be counted, right? you need to be counted or you say, count me. generally speaking, some do not do anything. but they got counted in the sexes. so now they say, you need to be counted. so it is this concept of an and participation. whether you vote or whether you wait until somebody to say, you need to bug. inclusion or participation for
people of color. that cycle that either spirals down her spirals up. hop into upon when you the people. and it does not matter whether it is going to be on the inclusion side. they work together. >> that is a great way to do it because i find in the asian nowfic islander community, people are much more inclined to understand they belong and they are part of the american political structure and that then, boom. actual voter turnout and participation. the key is again from the state of race session, is that we are aware of what the voices in this room are saying and how they reflect the larger sentiment in the broader society aunt that is why i appreciate you took the time to participate today. let me turn up back over. ask i want to thank juan for his
great moderation. it was provocative. thank onent to williams for his great moderation. it was provocative. i want to thank the c-span audience who will see this. the twitter #state of race, i discussionebate and will continue and i hope we will continue this discussion over lunch as we break bread together and in strength. thank you for coming, thank you for the panelists and the moderators and richard lui and juan williams and comcast corporation will stop taking. corporation.t thank you.
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