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tv   1988 Presidential Candidates Second Debate  CSPAN  October 16, 2016 5:37am-7:01am EDT

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but i am somebody who believes that roe versus wade was rightly decided. i think that abortion is a very difficult issue and it is a moral issue and one that i think good people on both sides can disagree on. but what ultimately i believe is that women in consultation with their families, their doctors, their religious advisers, are in the best position to make this decision. and i think that the constitution has a right to privacy in it that shouldn't be subject to state referendum, any more than our first amendment rights are subject to state referendum, any more than many of the other rights that we have should be subject to popular vote. obama: so this is going to be an important issue. i will look for those judges who have an outstanding judicial record, who have the intellect, and who hopefully have a sense
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of what real-world folks are going through. i'll just give you one quick example. senator mccain and i disagreed recently when the supreme court made it more difficult for a woman named lilly ledbetter to press her claim for pay discrimination. for years, she had been getting paid less than a man had been paid for doing the exact same job. and when she brought a suit, saying equal pay for equal work, the judges said, well, you know, it's taken you too long to bring this lawsuit, even though she didn't know about it until fairly recently. we tried to overturn it in the senate. i supported that effort to provide better guidance to the courts. john mccain opposed it. i think that it's important for judges to understand that if a woman is out there trying to raise a family, trying to support her family, and is being treated unfairly, then the court has to stand up, if nobody else will. and that's the kind of judge
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that i want. schieffer: time's up. mccain: obviously, that law waved the statute of limitations, which you could have gone back 20 or 30 years. it was a trial lawyer's dream. let me talk to you about an important aspect of this issue. we have to change the culture of america. those of us who are proudly pro-life understand that. and it's got to be courage and compassion that we show to a young woman who's facing this terribly difficult decision. senator obama, as a member of the illinois state senate, voted in the judiciary committee against a law that would provide immediate medical attention to a child born of a failed abortion. he voted against that. and then, on the floor of the state senate, as he did 130 times as a state senator, he voted present. then there was another bill before the senate judiciary committee in the state of illinois not that long ago, where he voted against a ban on partial-birth abortion, one of the late-term abortion, a really -- one of the bad procedures, a
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terrible. and then, on the floor of the illinois state senate, he voted present. i don't know how you vote "present" on some of that. i don't know how you align yourself with the extreme aspect of the pro- movement in america. and that's his record, and that's a matter of his record. and he'll say it has something to do with roe v. wade, about the illinois state senate. it was clear-cut votes that senator obama voted, i think, in direct contradiction to the feelings and views of mainstream america. schieffer: response? obama: yes, let me respond to this. if it sounds incredible that i would vote to withhold lifesaving treatment from an infant, that's because it's not true. here are the facts. there was a bill that was put forward before the illinois senate that said you have to provide lifesaving treatment and that would have helped to undermine roe v. wade.
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the fact is that there was already a law on the books in illinois that required providing lifesaving treatment, which is why not only myself but pro-choice republicans and democrats voted against it. and the illinois medical society, the organization of doctors in illinois, voted against it. their hippocratic oath would have required them to provide care, and there was already a law in the books. with respect to partial-birth abortion, i am completely supportive of a ban on late-term abortions, partial-birth or otherwise, as long as there's an exception for the mother's health and life, and this did not contain that exception. and i attempted, as many have in the past, of including that so that it is constitutional. and that was rejected, and that's why i voted present, because i'm willing to support a ban on late-term abortions as long as we have that exception. the last point i want to make on the issue of abortion.
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this is an issue that -- look, it divides us. and in some ways, it may be difficult to -- to reconcile the two views. but there surely is some common ground when both those who believe in choice and those who are opposed to abortion can come together and say, "we should try to prevent unintended pregnancies by providing appropriate education to our youth, communicating that sexuality is sacred and that they should not be engaged in cavalier activity, and providing options for adoption, and helping single mothers if they want to choose to keep the baby." those are all things that we put in the democratic platform for the first time this year, and i think that's where we can find some common ground, because nobody's pro-abortion. i think it's always a tragic situation. we should try to reduce these circumstances. schieffer: let's give senator mccain a short response. mccain: just again, the example
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of the eloquence of senator obama. he's health for the mother. you know, that's been stretched by the pro-abortion movement in america to mean almost anything. that's the extreme pro-abortion position, quote, "health." but, look, cindy and i are adoptive parents. we know what a treasure and joy it is to have an adopted child in our lives. we'll do everything we can to improve adoption in this country. but that does not mean that we will cease to protect the rights of the unborn. of course, we have to come together. of course, we have to work together, and, of course, it's vital that we do so and help these young women who are facing such a difficult decision, with a compassion, that we'll help them with the adoptive services, with the courage to bring that child into this world and we'll help take care of it. schieffer: let's stop there, because i want to get in a question on education and i'm afraid this is going to have to be our last question, gentlemen. the question is this. the u.s. spends more per capita than any other country on education. yet, by every international measurement, in math and science competence, from kindergarten
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through the 12th grade, we trail most of the countries of the world. the implications of this are clearly obvious. some even say it poses a threat to our national security. do you feel that way and what do you intend to do about it? the question to senator obama first. obama: this probably has more to do with our economic future than anything and that means it also has a national security implication, because there's never been a nation on earth that saw its economy decline and continued to maintain its primacy as a military power. so we've got to get our education system right. now, typically, what's happened is that there's been a debate between more money or reform, and i think we need both. in some cases, we are going to have to invest. early childhood education, which closes the achievement gap, so that every child is prepared for school, every dollar we invest in that, we end up getting huge
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benefits with improved reading scores, reduced dropout rates, reduced delinquency rates. i think it's going to be critically important for us to recruit a generation of new teachers, an army of new teachers, especially in math and science, give them higher pay, give them more professional development and support in exchange for higher standards and accountability. and i think it's important for us to make college affordable. right now, i meet young people all across the country who either have decided not to go to college or if they're going to college, they are taking on $20,000, $30,000, $50,000, $60,000 worth of debt, and it's very difficult for them to go into some fields, like basic research in science, for example, thinking to themselves that they're going to have a mortgage before they even buy a house. and that's why i've proposed a $4,000 tuition credit, every student, every year, in exchange for some form of community service, whether it's military service, whether it's peace
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corps, whether it's working in a community. if we do those things, then i believe that we can create a better school system. but there's one last ingredient that i just want to mention, and that's parents. we can't do it just in the schools. parents are going to have to show more responsibility. they've got to turn off the tv set, put away the video games, and, finally, start instilling that thirst for knowledge that our students need. schieffer: senator mccain? mccain: well, it's the civil rights issue of the 21st century. there's no doubt that we have achieved equal access to schools in america after a long and difficult and terrible struggle. but what is the advantage in a low income area of sending a child to a failed school and that being your only choice? so choice and competition amongst schools is one of the key elements that's already been proven in places in like new orleans and new york city and other places, where we have charter schools, where we take
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good teachers and we reward them and promote them. and we find bad teachers another line of work. and we have to be able to give parents the same choice, frankly, that senator obama and mrs. obama had and cindy and i had to send our kids to the school -- their kids to the school of their choice. charter schools aren't the only answer, but they're providing competition. they are providing the kind of competitions that have upgraded both schools -- types of schools. now, throwing money at the problem is not the answer. you will find that some of the worst school systems in america get the most money per student. so i believe that we need to reward these good teachers. mccain: we need to encourage programs such as teach for america and troops to teachers where people, after having served in the military, can go right to teaching and not have to take these examinations which -- or have the certification that some are required in some states.
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look, we must improve education in this country. as far as college education is concerned, we need to make those student loans available. we need to give them a repayment schedule that they can meet. we need to have full student loan program for in-state tuition. and we certainly need to adjust the certain loan eligibility to inflation. schieffer: do you think the federal government should play a larger role in the schools? and i mean, more federal money? obama: well, we have a tradition of local control of the schools and that's a tradition that has served us well. but i do think that it is important for the federal government to step up and help local school districts do some of the things they need to do. now we tried to do this under president bush. he put forward no child left behind. unfortunately, they left the money behind for no child left behind. and local school districts end up having more of a burden, a
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bunch of unfunded mandates, the same kind of thing that happened with special education where we did the right thing by saying every school should provide education to kids with special needs, but we never followed through on the promise of funding, and that left local school districts very cash-strapped. so what i want to do is focus on early childhood education, providing teachers higher salaries in exchange for more support. senator mccain and i actually agree on two things that he just mentioned. charter schools, i doubled the number of charter schools in illinois despite some reservations from teachers unions. i think it's important to foster competition inside the public schools. and we also agree on the need for making sure that if we have bad teachers that they are swiftly -- after given an opportunity to prove themselves, if they can't hack it, then we need to move on because our kids have to have their best future. where we disagree is on the idea that we can somehow give out
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vouchers -- give vouchers as a way of securing the problems in our education system. and i also have to disagree on senator mccain's record when it comes to college accessibility and affordability. recently his key economic adviser was asked about why he didn't seem to have some specific programs to help young people go to college and the response was, well, you know, we can't give money to every interest group that comes along. i don't think america's youth are interest groups, i think they're our future. and this is an example of where we are going to have to prioritize. we can't say we're going to do things and then not explain in concrete terms how we're going to pay for it. and if we're going to do some of the things you mentioned, like lowering loan rates or what have you, somebody has got to pay for it. it's not going to happen on its own. schieffer: what about that, senator? mccain: well, sure. i'm sure you're aware, senator obama, of the program in the washington, d.c., school system where vouchers are provided and there's a certain number, i
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think it's a thousand and some and some 9,000 parents asked to be eligible for that. because they wanted to have the same choice that you and i and cindy and your wife have had. and that is because they wanted to choose the school that they thought was best for their children. and we all know the state of the washington, d.c., school system. that was vouchers. that was voucher, senator obama. and i'm frankly surprised you didn't pay more attention to that example. now as far as the no child left behind is concerned, it was a great first beginning in my view. it had its flaws, it had its problems, the first time we had looked at the issue of education in america from a nationwide perspective. and we need to fix a lot of the problems. we need to sit down and reauthorize it. but, again, spending more money isn't always the answer. i think the head start program is a great program. a lot of people, including me, said, look, it's not doing what it should do. by the third grade many times
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children who were in the head start program aren't any better off than the others. let's reform it. let's reform it and fund it. that was, of course, out-of-bounds by the democrats. we need to reform these programs. we need to have transparency. we need to have rewards. it's a system that cries out for accountability and transparency and the adequate funding. and i just said to you earlier, town hall meeting after town hall meeting, parents come with kids, children -- precious children who have autism. sarah palin knows about that better than most. and we'll find and we'll spend the money, research, to find the cause of autism. and we'll care for these young children. and all americans will open their wallets and their hearts to do so. but to have a situation, as you mentioned in our earlier comments, that the most expensive education in the world is in the united states of america also means that it cries out for reform, as well. and i will support those reforms, and i will fund the ones that are reformed.
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but i'm not going to continue to throw money at a problem. and i've got to tell you that vouchers, where they are requested and where they are agreed to, are a good and workable system. and it's been proven. obama: i'll just make a quick comment about vouchers in d.c. senator mccain's absolutely right. the d.c. school system is in terrible shape, and it has been for a very long time. and we've got a wonderful new superintendent there who's working very hard with the young mayor there to try -- mccain: who supports vouchers. mccain: she supports vouchers, also. obama: but the -- but here's the thing, is that, even if senator mccain were to say that vouchers were the way to go -- i disagree with him on this, because the data doesn't show that it actually solves the problem -- the centerpiece of senator mccain's education policy is to increase the voucher program in
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d.c. by 2,000 slots. that leaves all of you who live in the other 50 states without an education reform policy from senator mccain. so if we are going to be serious about this issue, we've got to have a president who is going to tackle it head-on. and that's what i intend to do as president. schieffer: all right. mccain: because there's not enough vouchers, therefore, we shouldn't do it, even though it's working. i got it. schieffer: all right. gentlemen, we have come to the close. before i ask both of you for your closing statements tonight, i'd like to invite our viewers and listeners to go to, where you will find this evening's debates and the three that preceded tonight's debate. now, for the final statements, by a coin toss, senator mccain goes first. mccain: well, thank you again, bob. thanks to hofstra. and it's great to be with you again. i think we've had a very healthy discussion. my friends, as i said in my
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opening remarks, these are very difficult times and challenges for america. and they were graphically demonstrated again today. america needs a new direction. we cannot be satisfied with what we've been doing for the last eight years. i have a record of reform, and taking on my party, the other party, the special interests, whether it be an hmo patients' bill of rights, or trying to clean up the campaign finance system in -- in this country, or whether it be establishment of a 9/11 commission, i have a long record of it. and i've been a careful steward of your tax dollars. we have to make health care affordable and available. we have to make quality education there for all of our citizens, not just the privileged few. we have to stop the spending. we have to stop the spending, which has mortgaged your children's futures. all of these things and all the promises and commitments that
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senator obama and i made to you tonight will be based on whether you can trust us or not to be careful stewards of your tax dollar, to make sure america is safe and secure and prosperous, to make sure we reform the institutions of government. that's why i've asked you not only to examine my record, but my proposals for the future of this country. i've spent my entire life in the service of this nation and putting my country first. as a long line of mccains that have served our country for a long time in war and in peace, it's been the great honor of my life, and i've been proud to serve. and i hope you'll give me an opportunity to serve again. i'd be honored and humbled. schieffer: senator? obama: well, i want to thank senator mccain and bob for moderating. i think we all know america is going through tough times right now. the policies of the last eight
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years and washington's unwillingness to tackle the tough problems for decades has left us in the worst economic crisis since the great depression. and that's why the biggest risk we could take right now is to adopt the same failed policies and the same failed politics that we've seen over the last eight years and somehow expect a different result. we need fundamental change in this country, and that's what i'd like to bring. you know, over the last 20 months, you've invited me into your homes. you've shared your stories with me. and you've confirmed once again the fundamental decency and generosity of the american people. and that's why i'm sure that our brighter days are still ahead. but we're going to have to invest in the american people again, in tax cuts for the middle class, in health care for all americans, and college for every young person who wants to go. in businesses that can create the new energy economy of the future. in policies that will lift wages and will grow our middle class.
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these are the policies i have fought for my entire career. and these are the policies i want to bring to the white house. but it's not going to be easy. it's not going to be quick. it is going to be requiring all of us -- democrats, republicans, independents -- to come together and to renew a spirit of sacrifice and service and responsibility. i'm absolutely convinced we can do it. i would ask for your vote, and i promise you that if you give me the extraordinary honor of serving as your president, i will work every single day, tirelessly, on your behalf and on the behalf of the future of our children. thank you very much. schieffer: senator obama, senator mccain, thank you very much. this concludes the final debate. i'm bob schieffer of cbs news, and i will leave you tonight with what my mother always said -- go vote now. it will make you feel big and strong. good night, everyone. [applause]
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>> every four years, the presidential candidates turned from politics to humor at the alfred e smith memorial foundation dinner to raise money for catholic charities. >> i must say i have traveled the circuit for many years and i have never quite understood the logistics of dinners like this. and how the absence of one individual could cause three of us to not have seats. >> vice president, i am glad to see you here tonight. you have said many times that you want to give america back to the little guys. president, i am batman. >> it is an honor to share the dais with the great al smith.
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al, your great-grandfather was my favorite kind of governor. the kind who ran for president and lost. right, a campaign can require a lot of wardrobe changes. blue jeans in the morning perhaps. a suit for a lunch fundraiser. a sport coat for dinner but it is nice to finally relax and wear what and and i wear around the house. smith memorial foundation dinner with hillary clinton and donald trump thursday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern and listen at 9:00 p.m. eastern with the c-span radio app. now, republican presidential candidate donald trump speaks at a campion rally in portsmouth, new hampshire. this is under an hour.
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mr. trump: thank you. theyis the biggest crowd have had here by a factor of three they told me. it is a big crowd. so, thank you all very much. and wehaving a good time are going to do a job and when this great state. 24 days left. back thee will take white house and we will make america great again. 24 days.
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crowd thise beautiful morning. crowd,'t you show the fellows. we are going to deliver real change that puts america first. we are going to negotiate and renegotiate and do tremendous deals. we will make new trade deals. we are going to reduce surging crime. crime is at a level that it has not been at for a long time. number of, the mergers in our country is the highest it has been in 45 years. they don't tell you that. we are going to end illegal immigration. we are going to lift restrictions on energy. we will left common core. we are going to reduce the cost of college, make child care more
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and repeal and replace the disaster commonly known as obama care. your jobs will come back. your incomes will go up under a trump administration. your taxes will go away, way down under a trump administration. crooked hillary will lift your taxes substantially. let me tell you. right now, there are companies out there that some of you work for that are negotiating to leave our country and go to mexico. you do not know it, but you will be hearing get. if i become president then i am moving. we are going to be a rich country again. we will end government corruption.
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hillary clinton is the most corrupt person ever to seek office. you know this. she is the most corrupt person ever to seek the office of the presidency. the media, the donors and special interests who support her will do everything they can to cling to their power at your expense. you know it, i know it, they know it. hillary clinton's documents released by wikileaks make more clear than ever, and they don't cover them the way they are supposed to cover them. that is bad, bad stuff. just how much is at stake in this election? the documents show negotiating with the justice department over the server that it's your country at danger.
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they show the clinton campaign viciously attacking catholics and evangelicals they show how the media collaborates and conspires directly with the clinton campaign. by the way, they show how the clinton campaign gets questions for the debate and the answers for the debate prior to the debate. we still beat her easily in that debate. can you believe that? she got the questions and
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answers prior to, i guess, the bernie debate. you don't even hear about it. can you imagine if i got the questions in the debate? it would be the biggest story worldwide. you do not even hear about it. she got the questions before the debate to cover up her crimes. hillary clinton deleted 33,000 e-mails after. remember, not before. that would have an bad. after a congressional subpoena. so, she gets the subpoena. we have problems, get rid of the e-mails, delete them. she lied to congress under oath. she made some iphones disappear with a hammer.
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anyone get rid of their phone with a hammer? three or four people, i want to talk to them. two boxes of e-mails -- gone. hillary clinton should have been prosecuted. she should be in jail, she should be. -- should be. >> lock her up! lock her up! mr. trump: the fbi and the department of justice created fraud in allowing hillary clinton to get away with her crimes. i guarantee you that the
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clintons are laughing at them right now. the director's performance in congress, coupled with bill clinton's meeting on the carmack with the attorney general in her airplane just prior to decision time on hillary clinton's future supposedly talking about golf and grandchildren for 39 minutes. remember, he just happened to be there. i love arizona, one of my favorite places. at that particular time of the year, it was like 110 degrees out. they just happen to be, look, i will give my regards to the attorney general.
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there has never been a situation like this in the history of our country. the fbi people, who are phenomenal people, must be spinning at what is going on with the fbi. spinning. instead of being held accountable, hillary is running for president at what looks like a rigged election. the election is being rigged by corrupt media pushing completely false allegations and outright lies and effort to elect her president. and, you know what i mean? in fact, today, the cousin of
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one of these people one of these people -- [indiscernible] mr. trump: in fact, the cousin of one of these people wrote a letter that what she said is a lie, that she was a huge fan of donald trump, she invited donald trump to a restaurant to have dinner, which, by the way, i did not go to, i did not know who the heck we were talking about here. these allegations have been, many of them, proven false. the butler said it was a total lie. we cannot let them get away with this, folks. total lies. we are going to stop it.
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we are not going to back down. no witnesses whatsoever. how about this crazy woman on the airplane. can anyone believe that one? after 15 minutes she said, that is too much. in this place, it would be 15 seconds, and smack. it is a crazy world we are living in. it is a rigged election.
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they are putting that on the first pages of newspapers. we are not going to let it happen. americans have had it with the years and decades of corruption. you can go back to whitewater, to the cattle deal, where she got a far greater return on the investment in the history of the cattle business. give me a break. these are crooked people. right now, she is resting for the debate. she calls it debate prep.
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in this is saturday. a that will be wednesday. you're supposed to know this stuff. in what are you going to learn who what are you going to learn in five days? you know what is interesting to me, she is supposed to know it, yet, when she was being investigated by the fbi, what she did on the fourth of july weekend, by the way, with no tape recorders going, she did not have to swear. this was a little different than they treated martha stewart. no tape recorders going. 39 times, i don't remember, i don't remember. maybe that is why she has two a debate prep because she has a bad memory. a a lot of things are going on, folks. a folks.
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i think she is actually getting pumped up. you understand? we will be talking about that in a few minutes. she is getting pumped up for wednesday night. you know, i don't know. we are like athletes, right? i beat 17 senators, governors come all these people. we are like athletes. hillary beat bernie, though it looks like when he got a bit of a bad deal, if you look at wikileaks. athletes, they make them take a drug test. i think we should take a drug test prior to the debate. why don't we do that? we should take a drug test prior.
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i don't know what is going on with her. at the beginning of her last debate, she was all pumped up at the beginning. at the end, it was like, take me down, she could barely reach her car. anyway, i am willing to do it. these people get rich stealing your jobs and shipping them to other countries all over the world. in particular, in your case, to mexico. i have so many friends in new england, so many great friends in new england, including tom brady and coach belichick. how good is tom?
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he said, well, maybe 300-400 yards, three touchdowns. what a good coach. a great group of people. this will finally be the year when the american people say enough is enough. speaking in a secret meeting to a foreign bank, hillary clinton said her dream is to totally open trade and borders. that means the end of your jobs. by open trade she means foreign countries can she as out of millions and millions of jobs and trillions of dollars. that is what she means. it also means the end of the jobs that were taken by the disaster known as nafta. by open borders she means totally unlimited immigration. when she thought no one was listening, hillary clinton was
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plotting to destroy the sovereignty of the united states. either we win this election or we lose this country. i really believe this is the last chance we have to win. i really believe it. not going to happen again. a trump administration will secure and defend our borders. yes, we will build the wall. >> build the wall! build the wall! mr. trump: a wall will not only keep out dangerous cartels and criminals, but it will keep out the drugs and heroine that is poisoning our youth.
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by the way, mexico, maybe they don't know it yet, mexico will pay for the wall 100%. they could be helping us much more with this problem if we had leadership in this country that said, folks, you better help. they are killing us. they will pay for the wall in some form. believe me, there are about 12 forms they can do it. they will pick the one that looks the best. they will pay for it. remember, don't forget, you were the ones. i won new hampshire, my first victory. when i won the primary, i promised the people of new hampshire that i would stop drugs from pouring into your community. you remember that? i said, i'm going to do it.
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with them, it is just talk and talk. they have a lot of people that make money on the drug business. i will have over $100 million spent on my campaign. plus, we have a lot of money coming in from small donors. i asked her the other night, why didn't you put something into your campaign? she doesn't want to do it. too greedy. i'm now doubling down on my promise to the people of new hampshire. i can guarantee you, we will help all of those people. we will get them assistance and make sure that we are better. i tell you what, i love new hampshire. it had big impact on me.
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i think this is one of the most beautiful places. when i got to know the people -- i met with the groups and small groups -- i said, what is the biggest problem? they said, drugs. i said, drugs, it doesn't work. it made an impression. i went from group to group, what is the biggest problem? heroin, heroin. you have unbelievable police here. the law enforcement groups. they are meeting me all over the place. you have unbelievable law enforcement. it is a pretty dramatic
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campaign. he dis-honored his pledge. i would have honored it, no matter who won. they dishonored their pledge, not good. i got to know the community very well. i will tell you, will they ever forget? it was a rough campaign. some of these guys, some governors lost more viciously and in a more brutal contest than they ever have before. i was a business that with no experience. when i was four months into the campaign, they did a study. they said, trump had four months of experience.
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--they had over 230 years. charles krauthammer said, donald trump has no experience and no chance. remember when, in massachusetts, i got almost 50% of the vote? 49.7%. we had like 11 people left. they said, he did not get 50%. these are total losers. by the way, my people tell me we are up a lot in new hampshire. who knows? i think we are going to win new hampshire big.
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it made a big impact on me. i got to know the people of new hampshire so well. they do not talk about all the other problems we had. they said it was heroin pouring into the community. i said to them, if i win, i get elected president, i'm going to solve that problem. i mean it so much, maybe more than ever. you are the ones who really showed me the gravity of the problem, of drugs, pouring in, mostly from the southern border into our community. we will take care of it. new hampshire is one of the highest drug overdose rates, if you look at it, and death rates in the country. it is hard to believe. we have to solve this crisis. we will.
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i have to give credit to my running mate, mike pence. has he been great? great guy. the mandatory minimum for those struggling with addiction. he has done such a good job in indiana. he has been such a loyal friend to me. i appreciate it. his wife karen. then great. that was a good choice. leadership is about who you pick. by the way, did he knock the hell out of tim kaine? [applause] mr. trump: that was like the new england patriots playing my high school football team. we must make similar efforts a priority for our nation.
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not too long ago, we read about christopher honor and courtney griffin. a beautiful couple. who died of an overdose within one year of each other. their story of prescription drugs, heroin, and missed opportunities in the court system is why we need to plan to end the opioid epidemic. we have such an epidemic in this country. people do not know it. the people who do know it, sometimes it is too late. we have to and this epidemic. we will stop the flow of illegal drugs into our country. the number of heroin seizures on
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the border has tripled. it has to go much, much higher. i have received the first ever endorsement of our border patrol agents. just last week, our ice officers. these are great people, by the way, people who want to do the job and are not allowed to do their jobs. under a trump administration, we will work with them to end the flow of drugs across our border. i asked them, how important is a wall? they said, so important, you have no idea. that made me feel good. we will also put an end to sanctuary cities, which refused to turn over illegal immigrants and refused to turn over drug traffickers for deportation. we will dismantle -- you know we have to do this -- dismantled the illegal immigrant cartels and violent gangs.
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we will send them swiftly out of our country back to their countries, and they are not coming back in. if you remember, hillary clinton, when we brought killers, drug dealers, gang members back, and intelligently, the country said, we are not taking them, we don't want them. she said, bring them back. that is not going to happen with trump, believe me. there will not be one case where those people are brought to their country and brought back to our country. not one case. we will prosecute traffickers of illegal drugs and provide law enforcement and prosecutors with resources and support they need to properly do their jobs. president obama, who spends most
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of his time campaigning for crooked hillary -- this guy spends all his time campaigning. he ought to be working on jobs and lowering taxes. president obama excommunicated the sentences of high-level drug traffickers. can you believe this? many of them with extensive criminal history and records. is the whole thing is unbelievable. she is not winning because everything she touches is terrible. in new hampshire she wants to know why she is not through the roof. --n you look at her everything she touches turns bad. her foreign policy is a disaster.
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her views on the border are a disaster. let everyone flow into the country. are,ve no idea who they where they come from. hillary clinton promises to continue this approach. and i want everything to be law and order and justice everything perfect. we have to take our country back. years, thist few administration has been steadily dismantling the federal criminal justice system. especially with respect to her. there has never been a lower day and i said it before in the history of the fbi or the justice department then this timeframe.
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tens of thousands of drug dealers have been released from prison and released early including many illegal immigrants regardless of their history of violence. they get off for good behavior and then within an hour they are back on the streets. we will also close the loopholes.
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third -- we will fix the misguided rules and regulations that have made this problem worse. it is a tragedy enough that so many americans are struggling with life-threatening addiction. we are going to work with them. the biggest problem. we should not compound that tragedy with government policies and bureaucratic rules that make it even harder for them to get the help that they so desperately need. the fda has been far too slow to approve abuse-deterring drugs. they have drugs that can really help, and it doesn't happen. for years and years they study. these are people who are dying in committing suicide. we have to move it along and there are things that are amazing that they have and they are not approving them. when the fda has approved these medications, the rules have been far too restrictive, severely limiting the number of
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authorized subscribers and patients each doctor can treat. we had millions and millions of people and our country who are badly addicted and will die soon. we have to move it along. recovery medications have the potential to save thousands and thousands of lives. we prescribe opioids like oxycontin. we do that freely, but when patients become addicted to those drugs, we stop doctors from getting patients to treatments they medically need to get better. it will help. it will help. and many of these people are going to be dying. what is taking so long? years and years. as president, i will work to lift the cap on the number of patients they treat. they have a cap.
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at the same time, dea to reduce the amount of scheduled 2 opioids, drugs like oxycontin, methadone, and fentanyl. we have 5% of the world's population, but use 80% of prescription opioids. that's an amazing statistic. finally, we will give people struggling with addiction access to the help they need. congress has already taken the first of bypassing the recovery act. this legislation is an important step in the right direction. i will expand incentives for states to use drug courts. your police have done an amazing job. they are against a fight that is unbelievable. your police have done an amazing
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job. [applause] they can be cost effective, appropriate, and humane, and the response to the addiction can be incredible. i would dramatically expand access to treatments, and and medicaid policies that obstruct inpatient treatment. we got to do this. i would dramatically first responders' access to narcan. it is an antidote that save thousands of lives and is supposedly amazing. there are amazing things out there, but we are not getting -- we are not able to use them. too many of our brave veterans have been prescribed these dangerous and prescription drugs. the v.a. has been such a
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disaster all of the country and we are going to take care of our veterans better than they had been taken care of before. remember that. [applause] our veterans, in many cases, are not treated as well. remember this -- they are not treated as well as illegal immigrants who come pouring into the country. our veterans are going to be taken care of really well for the first time. these are our great people. [applause] together, these steps will ensure that every american struggling with addiction has access to the care and the help he or she needs. in most cases, and in some cases, desperately needs. if we are going to bring hope back into our communities, we only have to solve lots of
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problems, but we also have to solve the problems of the economic crisis that we have because we have an economic crisis. jobs are gone. our companies, a lot of them have left. a lot of our best companies have left. leaving behind dilapidated communities, rusted out factory, and shattered dreams. we drive around here and you see buildings that were thriving 20 years ago, and now those companies are located in mexico and other places. not going to happen, folks. [applause] at the center of our economic revival, the will be fixing our terrible trade deals. just terrible. you look at nafta, you look at what's happened. speaking of that, 47 million americans are living in poverty. 45 million americans are on food stamps. think of that, in this country.
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we have nearly an $800 billion trade deficit in goods in the world since the great depression. it is not a recovery. it is only a recovery and wall street because it is a big fat bubble that will explode as soon as interest rates go up. and obama does not want to raise interest rates because he does not want to go down the way he should go down. it is a big fat, ugly bubble. you watch. it is horrible. it is horrible that he has been able to get away with this. and he has doubled the debt over his short tenure. over eight years, he would have doubled the debt to $20 trillion. from $10 trillion to $20 trillion.
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we have not even started yet. our airports are a laughingstock all over the world. this is the legacy of obama-clinton. sustainable -- the state of new hampshire has lost manufacturing jobs since nafta. since china into the world trade organization, another bill hillary backed, and this is a bill clinton deal also come and listen to this because i thought this was a mistake. 70,000 factories have shut down, or left the head of states. 70,000. millions of jobs. i went back to my people and said, you made a typo. it couldn't be 70,000 factories. sadly, it was not a typo.
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that is 15 factories at a closing on average. 15 a day. but 15 factories. we are living through the greatest jobs' theft in the history of the world. never in the history of the world has there been a theft of jobs like what other countries have done to the united states. your area here, just about the top-of-the-line, you understand that. there she goes, she says, no getting. they know, you know. tokyo, feed chrysler, mattel, hundreds and hundreds are moving their jobs to mexico. i am telling you right now, companies are negotiating from this area to move to mexico. not pretty. won't happen -- if i am elected,
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it is not going to happen because they will know that if they go to mexico and they built their product in mexico in one to sell it into the united states, and they are going to fire all of these people whether it is new hampshire or anywhere else, they are going to pay a 35% tax on that product coming back in and they are not going to move. no chance of them moving. [applause] you know what? i have been watching for 10 years federal government, they given zero interest loans and give them all sorts of things. when you tell them there are consequences to pay when you fire people from this area, or any area in the united states, and you think you are going to move somewhere and make product and sell it to us? no. we are not going to be the stupid people anymore. i visited the sylvania plant. does anybody make a television
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set in the united states? we don't make anything anymore. i buy thousands of television sets again. everything is south korea, right? you have all south korea. lg, everything. can we find somebody in the united states? you see than insulting a have not seen that name and a long time because they moved.
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they closed their doors in 2014 and moved their jobs to mexico. your jobs are done. they are gone. if i win, day one, we will announce our plans to totally renegotiate nafta. [applause] if we don't get the deal, we will leave nafta and start over again and we will make much better trade deals. we are going to have good trade deals. we are going to have trade deals with jobs coming into our country. we will have two main highways, not one. right now, our trade deal, nafta -- by the way, the worst trade deal ever made in the world. if you look at the tax systems, they are different. immediately -- when the deal was made, they made a mistake and nobody ever fixed the mistake. they started off with a 16 percent advantage. they made a mistake. it is a defective deal. how often do you see deals going the other way? they are all going to mexico. it is better than hiring a consultant.
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a friend of mine, i said how is business? where are you building? he said mexico. he is from united states. i said, how was mexico doing? he said, donald, it is the eighth wonder of the world and we are building some of the greatest plants in mexico. you have to see. i said, i don't want to see. ford is moving there and carrier. so many companies are moving their now. how about the united states? he said, not good, not good. how stupid are we? how stupid are our leaders? it is not just stupidity. it is campaign contributions, pacts, all of this stuff. even if they know better, and they are not all stupid, a lot of them are, but they won't do it because they have to care of their donors for special
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interests. i tell you this very strongly, to me, one of the most important statements, we are going to start making things again in america. [applause] you are going to see the day during my term that apple opens up in this country and apple and other companies like apple make their product in this country. forget about china, forget about -- [chanting "usa"] remember this, with me, it is america first. america first. we are going to have good relationships with mexico. i met with the president of mexico two months ago. i am sure you read about it. he is a nice guy. he is a very nice guy.
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we are going to have a great relationship with mexico, but we have to explain to mexico, it is a two-way street, not a one-way street. it has got to come both ways. we get the drugs, the unemployment. they get the cash, the companies, and the jobs. i would say that is not a good deal, don't you think? what we are going to be america first and we are going to see apple another companies like apple opening plants in this country. believe me, it is going to happen. it is going to happen as sure as you are standing there, that is going to happen. as part of the plan to bring back jobs, we are going to lower our business tax from 35% to 15%. we will have a 10% tax on money parked overseas bringing trillions and trillions of dollars in wealth back into our
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country. you have many companies leaving our country to get their money. the taxes are so high and bureaucracy is even worse. manufacturers will be able to expense the cost of new investment and equipment to help make our country much more competitive because we are not even competitive now. we are the highest tax major country in any where in the world by far. we are going to be one of the lower tax. i would like to say the lowest, but we won't be, but will be one of the lower tax in the world. we will lower taxes massively. on all americans. hillary is looking to raise your taxes massively, massively. we will become the great jobs magnet of the world. wages will rise. jobs will return. the factories i told you about will come rushing back onto our shores. [applause] just to finish up, here are some
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of the amazing things we are going to do for our country starting in 2017. and remember, it only works -- november 8, you got to get out, you got to vote. you got to vote. [applause] i jokingly say if you go to your doctor and you get a prognosis, that is the ultimate. he says it is over. you have a month to live. does not make any difference. on november 8, you get out of bed, you get out -- think of your children, think of your grandchildren. you got to get out and vote. [applause] you got to get out. we are going to have the biggest tax cut since ronald reagan. actually, it can even be bigger
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than that. very importantly, we are going to eliminate every unnecessary regulation that are choking people in choking our country. we are going to defend our religious liberty. [applause] we are going to reduce the cost of college tuition. [applause] we are going to rebuild for our great, great people and the military, we are going to rebuild our depleted military, and we are going to take care of our veterans. [applause] we are going to repeal and replace obamacare. [applause] very important for new hampshire, this is under siege. we are going to save our second amendment. [applause]
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and the national rifle association endorsed me, they are terrific people. we are going to appoint justices to the united states supreme court who well uphold and defend the constitution of the united states. [applause] you have 24 days to make every dream you ever dreamed for your family, for your country. 24 days. if we don't win, as i said before, i don't think it is ever going to happen again. our country is going to be in a spiral that won't be stopped. on november 8, the arrogance of washington d.c. will come face-to-face with the righteous verdict of the american voter. [applause] i am going to fight so hard
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-- hey, i had a great life. i got the best of the city. i built this incredible company. my life is so wonderful. i am loving this because we are doing this that is going to be so amazing, but we have to pull it off. it is a movement to the likes of which they have never seen before. look at this crowd all the way back. the likes of which they have never seen before. [applause] i am going to fight for every citizen of every background from every stretch of this nation, and i am going to fight to bring us all together as americans. [applause] imagine what our country could accomplish if we started working together as one people under one god, saluting one american flag! [applause] and 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, you are going to look back at this rally for the rest of your life.
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you are going to remember this day. this is a movement like people have never seen in this country before. we are going to make history together. remember, it is a rigged system, a rigged election. we're going to beat the rate system -- and they're going to beat the rigged election. you are going to look back and say this is the most important vote i have ever cast for anyone at anytime in my life. once again, we are going to have a government of, by, and for the people. [applause] we will make america wealthy again. we will make america strong again. we will make america safe again.
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and we will make america great again. thank you, everybody. got a bless you. thank you. ♪ [applause] ♪ >> next, live, your calls and
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does not have an ideological slant. dowdnight, on q&a, maureen discusses her book, the derangement of american politics. >> one thing i do not like about the clintons is that when they get in trouble, they try and blame someone else. got into trouble with monica, the white house aides called around and said thomas jefferson had a mistress. dead presidents they are dragging in. >> tonight, at 8:00 p.m. eastern on q&a. morning, nathan gonzales, editor and publisher of the rothenberg and gonzales political report look at house and senate elections. and then the president for the , discusses for women donald trump's behavior towards women. and later, former house speaker newt gingrich talks about the
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