tv Sunday Morning Futures With Maria Bartiromo FBC February 7, 2016 6:00pm-7:01pm EST
>> bye, tucker. good morning, everyone, i'm maria bartiromo. who are the winners, who are the winners going into new hampshire? we'll talk with dr. ben carson. plus south carolina senator tim scott with us on the jabs last night. plus the battle for the younger votes. bernie sanders continues to grab voters from this group. does mrs. clinton have a shot with the millennials? new numbers show 2016 is not off
to a great start after all. where are the jobs? we're taking a look at coding, as we look ahead on "sunday morning futures." the republican presidential candidates facing off last night in the final debate ahead of the first in the country new hampshire primary, focusing mostly on immigration and foreign policy, with very little discussion about the economy. it was also a make or break moment for several of the candidates ahead of tuesday's crucial vote. according to the latest suffolk university/"boston globe" poll, donald trump leads at 29% going into new hampshire, followed by marco rubio at 19.4%. john kasich is in third place with the other candidates trailing in the single digits. dr. ben carson joins me right now from new hampshire. sir, good to have you on the program, thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> i want to ask you about that debate, how you felt about it. let me kick it off with the
opening. sir, i've got to tell you, that was so hilarious in terms of what happened when you were coming out, everybody was coming out. what happened? did you not get the cues? >> just didn't hear the number. there was very bad acoustics in the back. abc news admitted that they had some technical problems and a number of us actually didn't hear. >> and then donald trump, instead of moving forward, you sort of made a friend there, he waited backstage with you. >> he couldn't hear either. and john kasich couldn't hear either. you know, you make light of it and move on. >> how do you think the debate went, dr. carson, overall, from your standpoint? >> overall it went reasonably well. you know, i always get shortchanged because not having been a governor or a senator, no one's likely to call your name
out. so you don't get extra time to talk. and, you know, it's not something that the moderators ever take into consideration. >> so what do you feel like you would have liked to address and didn't get the chance to because you weren't called on? was it the question about being a conservative? >> yeah, every else got to weigh in on that. i was not called on. i have strong feelings about what conservativism should be. it should be a preserving of those things that really work. for instance, in our country, which was -- declared its independence in 1776 for a hundred years was the economic power of the planet, how did that happen? a conservative would analyze that and encourage the situation where entrepreneurs are creating capital investment. that's not hard to figure out,
rather than allowing us to move on to a new, quote, progressive type of situation. a conservative recognizes that america was built on opportunity, not on dependency, and therefore creating the ladders of opportunity that allow people to move from a state of dependency into the fabric of america. a conservative recognizes that we have enormous resources in this country, and that fueled, you know, our tremendous rise, and that you don't, you know, use something like the epa and the bureau of land management to depress that development, but rather to work with business, industry, academia, ag, to find the cleanest, most environmentally friendly ways to not only develop your resources but to preserve your environment. that's a smattering of things that real conservatives do and that needs to be emphasized. >> that's a great point. one thing you're referring to is all the regulation.
new regulation coming out of the epa, dodd-frank legislation, obamacare, has in many case kept employers sitting on cash and not hiring new workers. there was not a lot of talk last night about jobs. i feel that's become once again the number one issue among voters. job numbers on friday were below expectations. businesses are not hiring enough. how would you characterize the jobs picture in america and as president, what would you do about it? >> it's horrible. they say it's down to 4.9%. of course you can make that number anything you want it to be based on who you include and who you exclude. in our case right now, the administration excludes the people who stopped looking for work. there are so many people who are content just to get, you know, handouts, and are not out there looking for work. they're not counted. that's absurd. the participation rate is at a historic low.
how do you get that moving again? first of all, you have to get rid of all the unnecessary regulations. and when i say "unnecessary," it indicates that i recognize this some of them are important. but you look at them in terms of their benefit versus their cost. when you do that, it makes a big difference. for instance, the president's clean power plan. epa has said if you implement all aspects of it, it will reduce the temperature of the earth by 0.05 degrees fahrenheit in 85 years. that's the benefit. the cost? billions of dollars and millions of jobs. that makes no sense at all. yet we are legislating based on ideology and not on evidence. also the tax, the tax system is oppressive. and we have advocated for a flat tax system. i hope people will go to bencarson.com and read the details, because they're not just bullet points, they're details. but a 14.9% flat tax on
everybody, starting at the 150% poverty level, and even the people below that will still pay something, because everybody has to have skin in the game. no deductions, no loopholes, no shelters. because when you put those things in there, people will begin to alter what they do in order to take advantage of it. some people have more ability to take advantage of it than others. there's no double taxation, no capital gains tax, no death tax, nothing is double taxed. that's kind of thing that really will encourage growth to occur. >> and you think you can get tax reform done in your first year of the presidency? >> i think you've got to get it done in the first year of the presidency, just looking historically at the ability to get things done. but i would begin negotiations immediately with congress. and i would do it in a very public way, so that people would
know who is the stick in the mud, if there are any. >> that certainly is what voters would like to hear. let me ask you about north korea, sir, and some of the news events in the last 24 hours. north korea this morning is saying that it has successfully put a satellite into orbit with that rocket launch that of course we know has been widely condemned as a disguised long range missile test. what should the u.s.'s response be? >> i believe that we have been very lax when it comes to north korea. and i think it's costing us. you know, when they engaged in cyber attack, you know, we complained a little bit, but we did nothing. we have tremendous offensive cyber capabilities. and i think we should send them a message utilizing our offensive absolutely in such a way that they would never think about doing it again. and i think we also need to be developing our strategic defense
initiative. ronald reagan was laughed at about it. but he who controls space will control the earth. we need to make it clear to north korea without a shadow of a doubt that if they launch a missile that we consider aggressive toward us, it will be the last thing that they do. we need to be very, very strong about that. i think we need to be working with china, because china does have some influence there. i think the economic sanctions that have been relaxed was a mistake, giving them the ability to be able to do these kinds of things. >> let me switchgears and ask you about your own campaign. obviously last night ted cruz apologized to you again for bad tactics. do you accept his apology? >> of course i accept the apology. and i think what has to be looked at is what does this tell you about a person, if they will
allow a campaign in which people clearly do thinks that are underhanded. if you accept that, what does that say for what you will do as president? i think it should be a moment of enlightenment for people. >> you have cut some staff in iowa going into new hampshire. do you want to tell us how you expect to break out in this crucial vote on tuesday? >> sure. a couple of months ago i was being told everything was wonderful with the campaign. i didn't believe it, so i began to do my own personal investigation. i found a lot of things that were inappropriate. we began making changes. you know, i think we now have an extremely well-run, efficient organization. you'll notice that since that time, we put out tons of policy, could never get any policy out
before that, because we had a dysfunctional organization that was bloated. we had a lot of people duplicating services. so all of those things have to be fixed. that's the same kind of attitude i would take as president. there's an incredible amount of inefficiency in our government, duplication of services. you know, way too many federal employees, way too many agencies. we would look at those things in a logical way, the same way i did in my organization, the same way i did in my medical career. that's what leads to success. i don't have any obligations to any special interest groups or to any billionaires who want to control anything. i never will have those obligations under any circumstances. >> sounds terrific. we'll be watching you in new hampshire. thanks for joining us this morning. dr. ben carson. up next we'll speak to south
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welcome back. after surging in iowa, florida senator marco rubio scoring a key endorsement this week, south carolina senator tim scott throwing his support behind the republican presidential hopeful. marco rubio was one of the primary attack targets in last night's debate. watch this exchange between he and governor chris christie. >> he simply does not have the experience to be president of
the united states and makes she decisions. >> the experience is not just what you did but how it worked out. under chris christie's governorship of new jersey, they've been downgraded in their credit rating. >> that's what washington is, the memorized speech. >> they had to shame you into going back to new jersey for the snowstorm. >> there it is, the memorized 25-second speech. there it is, everybody. >> wow, that was brutal. joining me right now is south carolina senator tim scott. senator, good to see you, thanks for joining us. >> good morning, maria, good to be with you. >> before we go into why you made this endorsement, let me get your take on how damaging that exchange was between chris christie and marco rubio, and marco rubio going back to that rehearsed line about barack obama several times.
>> question, marco rubio has the knowledge, the intellectual capacity to lead this country as commander in chief. anyone watching that debate releases that on the most important foreign policy objectives of this day, which is defeating isis, marco rubio can be commander in chief from day one. good news for the country. >> intellectual capacity, okay, but not necessarily experience, right? and people keep coming back to this when talking about senator rubio, because he's a junior senator. we had that with president obama, a lot of people disappointed with that.
is. we'll make sure that america's best days are ahead of her. >> what do you think about the pushback about the experience question, though? last night, when a number of times he could have talked about accomplishments or talked about about what he would do with the country, he kept going back to barack obama knows exactly what he's doing, he wants to change this country. was that int anyway.
marco rubio will be able to reverse the direction of barack obama and get this country back to the founding fathers' principles. >> senator, what will he do different, going into new hampshire now, to have a better performance tuesday? >> i looked at one of his meets this morning. he had it looked like over a thousand people in the audience. the marco momentum continues. i think he's going to have a very good, solid performance on tuesday. hopefully he'll be edging closer to first place. he'll probably come in second. he'll come into south carolina with a strong momentum. i believe south carolina will be the place where he finds the first number one performance in this very early primary. >> you're counting on south carolina then. senator, good to have you on the program, thanks so much. >> thank you, maria, have a
presidential candidates going all out to win over the young vote in this year's election. the number one issue for that group happens to be the economy and jobs. the latest jobs report showing 151,000 new jobs added to the economy last month, lower than analysts expected. meanwhile the unemployment rate did fall to 4.9%, the lowest rate in eight years. joining me right now is zach sims, co-founder and ceo of codecademy, good to see you, zach. >> thanks for having me. >> the youth vote is so
important. let me ask you about codecademy, an fantastic idea. >> technology is one of the greatest opportunities in today's economy, lots of unfilled jobs and opportunities to learn those skills. >> how do you learn coding? >> we created a website, codecademy.com, that teaches people in a hands-on manner how to learn the concepts behind algorithmic thinking. >> we saw there were opportunities within technology in this last jobs report. there are some jobs obviously growing faster than other areas. >> absolutely. technology will be that area for the foreseeable future. >> why? >> more jobs for high skilled people as every industry becomes more of a technology-driven industry. >> for the person out there worried about losing their job, who may have lost their job, who is frustrated and has stopped looking, what do they need to do to arm themselves with the right
skill set? >> really all that matters is motivation. we've seen people all around the world, asa smith started as a construction worker and after learning at codecademy, is employed as a coder. >> you would think as you go through life, you want to constantly improve your skills. you don't want your doctor to ever stop learning in in terms of of new innovations and new ways to treat things. >> absolutely. that's what i think we want the future of education to look like, something where it's not just about four years and you're finished, but a really continuous process over the course of your life. >> let me ask you about this millennial vote. for the first time, millennials, the largest block of voters, you speak to them all the time, you founded codecademy. what does the millennial want in a president? >> i think what matters most is the presidential candidates should care about issues that are important to millennials. as you talked about earlier, the economy is number one, college and higher education is number two on the top of minds of
millennials. i think those issues aren't being addressed adequately by today's candidates. >> how do you want those addressed? what specifically about those issues are you hearing? >> seeing stronger plans as to how we can help millennials find the right jobs, provide the right educational opportunities, and how we can stop millennials being saddled with debt when they leave college. >> have you chosen a candidate yet? >> i haven't. >> what's behind bernie sanders's success? he's resonating with young people. >> young people are focused on the issues. when they look at sanders and trump, both on the extremes of their respective parties, they maybe see a chance to make a difference in politics because it's the traditional candidate. >> bernie sanders last night on "saturday night live" said yes, i'm a democratic socialist. do millennials, do you think, understand what socialism is? >> i think so. i think you're seeing something
just as extreme being preached on the other side of the spectrum. millennials i hope don't want the kind of polarization we're seeing in this election and will eventually gravitate to someone more mainstream. >> do you think the millennials are excited by the gop candidates as well? >> i think they can be, yes. trump is running as the forefront candidate among millennials among the gop. >> thanks so much for joining us. codecademy.com is the website. zach sims, the co-founder there. who had the breakout moment in last night's gop debate? we'll break that down with our panel. log on to check my interview with chamber of commerce president tom donahue on regulations, keeping jobs in the u.s., and a tax plan that works for the american people. stick around, more "sunday morning futures" next.
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infrastructure, pipelines, that's for public purpose. what donald trump did was use eminent domain to try to take the property of an elderly woman on the strip in atlantic city. >> be a tough guy. i didn't take the property. >> you tried. >> i didn't take the property. the woman ultimately didn't want to do that. >> there you go, donald trump and jeb bush trading blows over the issue of eminent domain, just one of the many heated exchanges at last night's crucial new hampshire debate. with some of the candidates fighting for political survival, who came out on top? ed rollins, a fox news political analyst. a pulitzer prize winning journalist. robert wolfe, a former chairman of ubs and fundraiser for about the obama. thanks for joining us. we're happy you're here. first i want to begin with you,
robert. that exchange between donald trump and jeb bush, finally you saw jeb bush fighting back. >> you know, italy if i was going to give the comeback kid award, i would give it to jeb. i thought he had a really impressive debate for a few different reasons. one, he got christie to be the pitbull on rubio that you didn't have to be. number two, he was able to attack trump on eminent domain, which is important in new hampshire, especially northern. and then number three, he was able to discuss his policies of what he succeeded to do as governor of florida. to me i think it's going to bode very well for him. on eminent domain, he got it right. you have to differentiate between private and public sector. with keystone, it was definitely public sector. it was going under water basins. it was the governor who didn't approve the keystone there because of those reasons. so there's a real separation between the public and private
sector on eminent domain. >> so jeb bush had a good night. do you agree? >> the loser last night was rubio, who had a lot of momentum, he got mugged by christ christie. but christie really was the guy. and when he trying to go back after christie, and there's plenty to go after christie for, he didn't get a delegate in iowa. >> as a new englander i would say that temperament of christie last night may not play so well. >> good point. >> i also think that trump shushing and the audience booing -- >> trump doesn't play well. >> my sense is what happened is rubio was gaining fast, basically got slowed down.
i still think he comes in third or second. but i think he's got to have two good days. one of governors may come in fourth, but it won't be christie. >> i think we saw revenge of the governors, where experience really matters. you have to impress people that finally, finally, let's look at records. the substantive nature of the debate was truly striking. the american people are learning a lot, not only about the temperaments of these candidates but also the issues themselves. eminent domain, who had ever that about that issue before last night? it plays big in new hampshire where they're trying to bringing power lines from canada down through the states and a group of people in new hampshire are fighting that hard. so that was an issue that resonates locally. trump once again, the amazing mr. trump, who is barely a republican on some issues, he said he's against the iraq war,
he's against insurance, he loves eminent domain. you have to ask what's going on here. >> this is not about substance. you've had a lot more substantive governors and they're all gone. this is not a year of governors. this is the outsiders, the angry voters. my sense is trump is still the frontrunner. cruz is still very much a game player the rest wof the way. rubio has hopes and dreams but didn't have a great night last night. >> i'm glad the republicans can say last night was not about substance. i was incredibly surprised that once again, we're into the eighth republican debate and the economy doesn't come up. i'm a wall street guy. >> and it's my subject, so i was surprised as well. >> with growth where it is. >> if i didn't have to be on the
this show today, i would have watched the game. i'm typired of the debates. >> ratings suggest otherwise. >> i promise you the rates last night were strong. >> debi wassermann schultz tweeted out that i can't believe the gop is doing a debate on super bowl weekend, saturday night. haven't all the democratic debates been on saturday night, because of wassermann schultz? howie kurtz is coming up live in 20 minutes. good morning to you. >> good morning from new hampshire. some of the pundits are going overboard in saying marco rubio crashed and burned in last night's debate. ted cruz is blaming his own
staff for what he said about ben carson's campaign. a lot to talk about from here in manchester. >> we'll see you in 20 minutes live, howie kurtz, thanks very much. was it a crash and burn, ed? >> no, he came back at the end. he lost his momentum, he didn't lose this support. up next, the democrats, hillary clinton and bernie sanders continuing to trade jabs as well. does mrs. clinton have a shot with the younger voters? we're looking ahead on "sunday morning futures." e*trade is all about seizing opportunity. and i'd like to... cut. so i'm gonna take this opportunity to direct. thank you, we'll call you. evening, film noir, smoke, atmosphere... bob... you're a young farmhand and e*trade is your cow. milk it.
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senator hillary clinton. senator sanders is beating out clinton 55 to 41% in new hampshire in a recent poll. in the last couple of days, hillary clinton plummeted versus bernie sanders. >> her campaign is struggling. she's smart and obviously articulate woman, but he's driven her crazy and thrown her whole campaign off. the most fundamental problem is he's taking young voters away from her and she has to get them back. >> 84% of millennials actually voted for bernie sanders in iowa, such a huge hurdle. women also not holding their own. madeleine albright said the other day there is a special place in hell for women who don't support another woman. >> why? >> because we're speaking about someone over 45 who knows what
it took in order to get a woman like hillary clinton even into the finals for the presidency. and they say young women have no memory. and they may be right. >> i'm not going to follow donald trump and shush the two republicans sitting to my left, but to say the secretary is plummeting is ridiculous. one, the poll a week ago had her down 30 something% in percent i new hampshire, she's now down 14%. we know in new hampshire a third of the independent voters have not made up their mind. i'm not predicting that hill whiry gets a win in new hampshire. but if she comes in in single digits, that would be a huge home run for her. we only have iowa thus far, so to say she's plummeting in a bit of a stretch. she won iowa no matter how you
slice it. >> a win is a win. >> a win is a win, it doesn't make a difference. i'm an athlete. you win or you lose. i'm a trader. you win or you lose. you got the most delegates that day. >> no one's gotten any delegates yet. >> the convention is months away. >> the bottom line here is going back to the point, someone who was the inevitable nominee is struggling and you can't argue that. i'll tell you flat out she will lose new hampshire big time. >> and how about south carolina? >> we'll see. that's weeks away. >> apparently i'm told the strategy is win three out of four states, go into super tuesday strong. that's her strategy, robert? >> super tuesday and beyond, which a lot of the southern states she's going to do very
well in. >> let's face it, i know she's panicked over these young voters. >> there's no question bernie's resonating. he's definitely getting an excitement. and by the way, if hillary wins and those people stay excited about the democratic party, that will be incredibly strong for the general. let's not forecast where we're going. >> i'm not a democrat, i'm an observer. there is dialogue about whether joe biden gets into the race. and that's extraordinary. on our side we're arguing to get people out. at the end of the day, she's struggling. >> i'm struck by the fact that bernie sanders has managed to chip away at her lead without even going after her on e-mails. he's had every opportunity, he hasn't done it, he's only talked about wall street and his $27 average donations. >> i am equally struck that he
is doing as well in his populist approach. >> pragmatically speaking numbers of things he's talking about cannot get done. we're not going to have universal healthcare, college is not going to be free, congress is not passing these type of things. so i actually think, you know, the secretary actually in the last debate did incredibly well, because the truth is the second half of the debate was a lot on foreign policy, and it showed who hasn't experience and who doesn't. >> but how about that experience? people are looking at her foreign policy experience and saying, you know what, i don't think it works. >> it depends which side you're on. i would say the democrats would say they're pretty happy with it. >> she still has a hard time answering the three specific accomplishments she can claim credit for. >> a long way to go. >> meanwhile, job growth slams on the brakes even as the
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welcome back. the latest jobs report sending mixed messages on the u.s. economy. the unemployment vat 4.9%. that is the lowest it's been in years. job growth slowed down with only 151,000 new jobs added that was lower than expected. so what is the real state of our economy right now? our panel is back. how you would characterize
things, rob snert. >> as we spoke last month, was never for the fed raising rates. i'm not for the fed raising rates now. i would have been there about a year ago. but with the market volatility with, the gee yoe political volatility and with the growth slowing in china and europe and now in the u.s., i'm incredibly nervous for first half of 2016. and i think, you know, it is probably not going to bode well for job creation and wage creation. so i'm nervous and i think we're going to see incredible amount of market volatility continue. >> the nervousness doesn't stop there. some people are expecting a recession this year. >> even the optimists point to the fact that most recent job growth figures suggested that wages were finally going up by 12 cents an hour. and the decline if productivity of .3% in the last quarter of last year suggests that these wage increases cannot be sustained. so i agree with robert. the volatility of the overall financial markets and the
slowdown in europe and china do not bode well. >> how do these tax plans that we're hearing about, some wanting to raise taxes. how does that impact an economy that just gaining traction? >> no tax plan is going to take place until there is a new president and whatever that may be and getting a congress to go along with it. so we're two years away from. that and that's unfortunate. we clearly need to lower the business tax in order to stimulate the economy. if robert is worried about the economy who has more money than all the rest of us on this panel, i worry about it. i worry. i worry about this economy. i think people that are in the business that you deal with every day are very worried about this. and we are not driving the agenda by our sells anymore. there's a lot of world events that are occurring that basically have an impact on us. >> that's why it's interesting we spent more time in the debate talking about north korea than we did talking about the economy. >> yeah. >> north korea this morning, susan rice issued a statement saying the north korean missile
test was a definite threat to national security interests in the united states. there is an emergency un meeting. but there are very few options for dealing it with as we saw last night in the presidential con tenders and this morning. >> they tried to get the breaking news of north korea in. they didn't get the news of the jobs story in. >> you spoke about it all week on fox business. this is the first week the dollar has actually weakened. we're snil a strong dollar economy. and we haven't been that in a long time. and we're seeing trade and manufacturing slow down. at the end of the day, you know, we're an outliar. all central banks around the globe are easing and being more accommodative than we are. i think we need to rethink that approach. >> bank of japan is negative rates right now. >> the danger is we're now absolutely in the midst of a lame duck presidency in which the president and the congress haven't had their meeting last week, leadership, they're going to do nothing this year. they'll struggle to get a budget through. there will be no increase
anywhere. taxes are not going to go up. spending will stay the same. i just don't think -- you can't have government stop for a year. that's where we're going to be. >> the president coming out with the budget this tuesday. >> yeah. and moving some money from the pot that is supposed to go to fight isis in afghanistan into a post military money that is supposed to enhance our defenses in europe against russia, that's not more money that, is moving money around. >> and i think when people read headline news, there is just a nervousness. can you not disregard the markets going down. even if a lot of people aren't in them, i'm not a real equity guy. but when we look at this market going down and having volatility of 2%, 3% up and down, what china having volatility of 4% 5shgs% and japan now income a bear market, that has to spread nervousness around ceos and corporate executives about, you know, do i do acquisitions or is there organic growth? >> right. >> it adds to the uncertainty.
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hey. good to meet you dennis. one thing to watch in the week ahead. >> super bowl today. >> that's it? >> that's all i care about. >> who are you picking? >> denver. >> i. >> since he's watching the super bowl, i'm watching new hampshire. i'm going to see whether or not marco momentum will be slowed down and i'll see whether or not women will actually start turning out for hillary. >> rob snert. >> since my patriots aren't in the super bowl, i'm going to go with today's will 80th birthday of jimmy brown, my boyhood idol. why i wore number 32 and why my company is named 32 advisors. >> i always wanted to know why you named it that? >> that was my college football number. >> for all the young people under 70, jimmy brown was a great football player. >> there you go. >> i'm going to pick retail sales number on friday. that's going to give us a window
into what is going on with the consumer right now. thanks to our panel. i really appreciate it. that does it for "sunday morning futures." we'll be back tomorrow morning bright and early >> good evening, everybody, i'm lou dobbs. it's been 48 hours since donald trump conceded iowa to ted cruz. but not so fast. the formula 1 is calling for a new election to be held or cruz votes to be nullified. trump and carson and others accusing the cruz campaign of dirty tricks. cruz campaign told voters ben carson was exiting the race. cruz calls it all a misunderstanding. trump says no we need a new caucus. >> what he did is unthinkable. he said the man tlaefts and said it during