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john mcafee the founder of the anti-virus software. and austin petersen. all of them would make better presidents than hillary or donald. that's our show. big, big night. the man here, lou dobbs, next. lou: good evening, everybody, i'm lou dobbs. donald trump and ted cruz are on the attack with just 12 hours to go before polls close in south carolina. rather, open. trump is trying to make sure he wins by double digits as polls suggest he will. and cruz is hoping that the conservative coalition that boosted him to victory in iowa will do the same tomorrow. and the attacks, they just keep coming. >> you talk about people that lie, this ted cruz, this is the biggest lie year i've -- liar i've ever seen. i'll tell you what was good, even marco rubio said he's a liar. and when a politician says another politician's a liar, i never heard that before.
i felt so good. >> let me tell you right now, it's easy to say let's make america great again. you can even print that on a baseball cap. [laughter] but the question to ask is do you understand what made america great in the first place? [applause] lou: well, trump right now holding a rally in north charleston, south carolina. we'll be checking in here later in the show. also tonight jeb bush turning to his 90-year-old mother to help keep his campaign energized, the former florida governor facing what some political analysts say is a make or break primary election tomorrow. we'll discuss the republican race with fox news' digital politics editor chris stirewalt, the weekly standard's fred barnes and conservative commentator kathy lynn taylor. also tonight trump catching his audience and supporters by surprise. trump obviously believes that apple has a civic responsibility to help the fbi in this national
security case, and he's upset that apple's ceo is defying a federal court order to help the fbi open the iphone used by one of the san bernardino terrorists. trump today called for a boycott of all apple products until ceo tim cook complies with that court order and cooperates with the fbi. >> what i think you ought to do is boycott apple until such time as they give that security number. the phone's not even owned by this young thug that killed all these people. the phone's owned by the government. tim cook is looking to do a big number, probably to show how liberal he is. boycott apple until such time as they give that information. i think that's a great idea. [applause] lou: and a senior apple executive firing right back, saying donald trump's call for a boycott simply puts the company in standing with other good people trump has criticized. and the justice department? well, trump and the justice department are on the same side
in this one, extending the timetable for apple's compliance with a court order until friday of next week, and the justice department made it clear at the same time that the patience of the attorney general with apple is wearing thin. our top story tonight is the fight for south carolina. trump right now poised for a huge win after leading polls there since last november. so the principal question is who has the most to lose with a disappointing finish? cruz, rubio or bush? fox news chief political correspondent carl cameron is in columbia, south carolina, with our report. >> reporter: on the eve of the 2016 south carolina presidential primary, the first real example of the type of sharp elbows that can be thrown here comes in the form of robocalls and radio ads featuring donald trump's defense of the confederate flag and governor nikki haley's removal of said flag from the statehouse grounds.
>> trump talks about our flag like it's a social disease. >> respect whatever it is you have to respect, let it go, put it in a museum. >> donald trump's bankrolled nearly every major democrat in the country. >> reporter: the cruz campaign is saying they don't appreciate, they don't agree with the tone of that radio ad. on the eve of the primary, the polls have shown a closing race and a late night likely tomorrow night. >> no matter what you're doing, you have to just say i've got to take ten minutes, i've got to go out and vote. >> reporter: donald trump had a double-digit lead for weeks, so expectations are high and the discovery of a 2002 interview with howard stern in which trump said he supported the iraq war, con from districting his -- contradicting his claims of ever -- >> the first guy who ever asked me, i don't know, yeah, i guess so. before the war started, i was against that war. >> reporter: trump's ahead but in a virtual tie with ted cruz within the margin of error. cruz came in third in new hampshire and would get a huge
boost if he beats trump. who he hammered today on basic foreign policy. >> just this week donald trump said in a tv program that he would be neutral between israel and the palestinians. so let me tell you this. as president, i have no intention of being neutral. >> rubio's third and can't afford to slip having come in fifth in new hampshire. he now needs to show momentum. >> we're very blessed as a party to have so many good people, okay? and, look, none of our candidates is a socialist. that's a good thing. [laughter] [applause] and none of our candidates is under fbi investigation. >> reporter: for jeb bush the expectations are the most intense. he campaigned with his mother again today and his brother earlier this week. he needs to be among or very near the top three or could face an exodus of donors and sol -- volunteers. >> donald trump has never shown any interest in anybody other than himself, and the two candidates that are gifted speakers, marco rubio and ted
cruz, have shown nothing in their past that would suggest they could make a tough decision. >> reporter: john kasich says he's going forward no matter what happens. >> we're going everywhere, it's a national campaign. >> reporter: dr. carson says he had a private meeting with ted cruz last night discussing what carson has called cruz's dirty tricks in iowa. carson's team has revealed he didn't appreciate the outcome, the cruz campaign acknowledges the meeting but not the content. there are six major candidates on the ballot tomorrow, the back three could be in for a very gloomy weekend. carl cameron, fox news. lou: well, donald trump tonight, as i said, holding a rally in south carolina. he's been talking about the funding of his campaign, self-funded, and all of the lobbyist money pouring into his opponents, as he put it. let's listen. >> he was getting ready to do it again. i don't want to hear it. [laughter]
look, so we send, we send them cattle. they don't want our cattle, so they send it back. goes back and forth, back and forth. finally, they accept it. they call it kobe beef because it's aged, the stuff is rotted. [laughter] no, no, it's rotted. so because it's aged, it's decaying, they call it kobe beef, and they charge you ten times more for it. you tell me they're not smart? that's japan. japan is killing us. komatsu. look at what they're doing to caterpillar. a friend of mine is an excavator, he buys excavating equipment, right? i say, what are you doing? you're not buying caterpillar. i can't. they have cut the yen, they have devalued their currency to such an extent, first time in his life he's buying excavation equipment from komatsu. i said, what's the difference? he said, they're both good, caterpillar's better, but this is good enough. i owe it to my family, i owe it to my employees, my company.
i understand what he's saying. they've devalued their currency. take a look at caterpillar stock. take a look at what's happening. it's happening to all of us. right here you have boeing. boeing is being forced to build a massive plant in china, a number of massive plants. folks, folks, let me just tell you something. unless i'm president, you watch what happens. won't happen with me because i know the game better than any human being that's ever lived. nobody knows it better. [cheers and applause] lou: donald trump with a modest claim but also leading, again, on a very issue to this country, and that is international trailed. he is the only candidate examining the impact on jobs of all of the various trade agreements and bilateral relationships including, as you heard him speaking there, with japan which has a persistent trade surplus with the united states, china. boeing required to do offset production; that is, turning over the production of parking f
the aircraft that they sell to the chinese or manufacture in china, and the list goes on. in aggregate, millions of jobs have been lost over the course of these past two decades as a result of outsourcing, offshoring and offset sales that require the manufacture at least in part in the economy that is buying those parts. we will return to mr. trump as soon as we hear something that is newsworthy or just simply outrageously entertaining as is often the case. meanwhile, democratic presidential candidates focus on tomorrow's caucuses in nevada, a state that was once considered a sure thing for hillary clinton. it's now anything but. fox news' chief white house correspondent ed henry is in las vegas and has our report. >> reporter: hillary clinton raced across las vegas today
making her final pitch to groups she's having trouble connecting with, from young people to women. >> i actually do want to have seven days of paid sick leave. >> reporter: just hours after bringing more attention to another sore spot, honesty and trustworthiness, with this awkward answer. >> have you always told the truth? >> i've always tried to. always, always. >> some people are going to call that wiggle room that you just gave yourself. >> well, no, i've always tried to. >> reporter: and at a forum in las vegas last night, clinton was booed by a friendly democratic audience during the up to hall when she pointed to some of bernie sanders' criticisms of barack obama. >> senator sanders wasn't really a democrat until he decided to run for president. he doesn't even know what the last two democratic presidents did, and i'm -- [applause] well, it's true. it's true, you know it's true. >> reporter: then there's her cash crunch. the los angeles times reporting clinton is running out of celebrities in hollywood to get
money from because many have given the maximum $2700 allowed by law. anonymous clinton loyalist telling the newspaper, quote, the pond is getting fished out. while sanders is the king of small contributionings. so he can keep tapping his supporters for more money, a point he stressed at a top today in elko. >> you know what the average contribution was? $27. >> reporter: clinton did get a major boost today with the endorsement of a key african-american leader, congressman james clyburn. yet clinton was not there for the endorsement which was expected to be rolled out next week, closer to the south carolina primary, a sign the clinton camp may be trying to blunt the damage from a possible loss on saturday here in nevada. so in las vegas she's getting last minute help from a one-time foe, former obama campaign manager david plouffe. >> good luck. let's win the battle. >> reporter: and in south carolina, hollywood legend morgan freeman is lending his voice to this tv ad.
>> her life's work has been about breaking barriers, and so would her presidency. >> reporter: here's why clinton's money problems matter. next monday and tuesday she'll be back in california raising money yet again, valuable time off the campaign trail, while sanders is free to stump in south carolina or any other ballot ground. in las vegas, ed henry, fox news. lou: turning to the legal battle between apple and the fbi, the justice department today filed a motion to force apple to comply with a federal court order to break into the locked iphone of one of the san bernardino terrorists that he used. prosecutors saying apple's refusal was, quote, based on its concern for its business model rather than a legal rationale. apple's ceo, tim cook, has publicly said he intends to fight that order. the company has not yet filed any legal documents to that effect, will be doing so in the next week. earlier today apple received a three-day extension from the justice department giving it
until friday, next friday, to respond to the federal court order. on wall street stocks closed mixed but still this week the best of this year so far. the dow jones industrials fell 21 points, the s&p lost a fraction, the nasdaq up 17. volume on the big board, 4.1 billion shares for the week, the dow and s&p up more than 2.5%, the nasdaq with a weekly gain of 3.5%. crude oil tumbling more than 3%, settling below $30 a barrel. the yield on the ten-year at 1.75, down a basis point as you see there. i want to turn now to a somber day in washington where mourners lined up to pay their respects to the late supreme court justice antonin scalia. president obama, the first lady and other justices among those who visited scalia's flag-draped casket at the great hall of the supreme court.
scalia's son, paul scalia, addressed some of those who were gathered to say a prayer. >> god of faithfulness, in your wisdom you have called your servant, antonin, out of this world. release him from the bonds of sin and welcome him into your presence so that he may enjoy eternal light and peace. lou: and scalia's funeral is tomorrow at washington's basilica of the national shrine of the immaculate conception, it is the largest catholic church in this country. there is much more straight ahead, we are coming right back. stay with us. the vatican walking back the pope's slam on donald trump as trump does the christian thing, turning the other cheek. >> i think he's a terrific person, frankly. lou: how does all this affect trump and the republican race? digital politics editor chris stirewalt here next. and a man testing a body camera has no idea whatsoever
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clinton e-mails, this latest release contains 64 more of the classified e-mails. that brings the total number of classified e-mails on her server -- remember, she said there were none -- now 1,731. and, of course, we're just beginning to go through those e-mails, and we'll be bringing to you whatever it is we discover in this latest friday night late document dump. we want to go now real quickly, donald trump at a rally in north charleston, convention center in south carolina, talking about just moments ago the islamic state. here we are live. >> in pig's blood. you heard that, right? he fit -- he took 50 bullets, and he dipped them in pig's blood. and he had his men load his rifles, and he lined up the 50 people, and they shot 49 of those people, and the 50th
person he said you go back to to your people, and you tell them what happened. and for 25 years, there wasn't a problem, okay? 25 years there budget a problem. [cheers and applause] all right? so we better start getting tough, and we better start getting vigilant, and we better start using our heads, or we're not going to have a cup, folks. we're not going to have a country. [cheers and applause] so -- >> this is the greatest country in the world. >> what? >> this is the greatest country in the world. >> it is, that's why i'm doing this. i love this country. we want to keep this country. [cheers and applause] we want to keep this country. we want to make -- look, i'll tell you something. i've b been saying something because i've been meeting so many people, millions and millions of people. one of the reporters, great reporter, television reporter, said to me i've been doing this,
mr. trump -- and he didn't say this on the record, i wouldn't tell his name, but he said i've been doing this for 25 years n. 25 years, sir, i have never, ever, ever seen anything like what's happening with you and with your people. it's amazing. lou: donald trump in north charleston, south carolina. as you can tell, he has an attentive and responsive audience as he does everywhere he goes. well, here to help us break down what is happening in this extraordinary, unprecedented i believe campaigns, our favorite political savant, fox news digital politics editor, chris stirewalt. >> i did not know i would be coming in on any pig blood. [laughter] you never know. lou: well, 49 out of 50 bullets, apparently, highly effective. this has got to be apocryphal, no? >> well, i'm looking here, and this is the internet, which is a weird space -- lou: oh, that's perfectly reliable. >> i read it on the internet, it
must be true, and it is the story of john jay pershing, blackjack -- lou: u.s. army. >> quite so. he, apparently, there's an apocryphal story which means, as we would say in journalism, too good to check. [laughter] that he dipped a bullet to deal with muslim terrorists, he dipped bullets in pig blood, and that's what the internet says. lou: presumably, those would have been hollow points -- [laughter] anyway -- >> no comment, brother dobbs. lou: let's turn to this race tomorrow. i mean, let's start off with what i said, it's historic. >> totally. lou: i mean, in my career and in my readings of political history there isn't a race in the world -- or certainly in this country -- to compare to this, at least in the last, since the 1900s. >> well, think about it this way, we didn't have a primary system like we have today until 1976. lou: right. >> 1980, really. the '76 election was sort of in
between 1980, so we have, all of this has happened in a relatively short period of time, and in the modern era, we've had nothing like it. lou: nothing like it, and not because -- this is not an endorsement of trump. it doesn't matter who you're for, who you're against, democrat, republican, independent. i mean, this thing is tumultuous. and, certainly, donald trump is at the center of nearly out of it. >> what if i'd have told you a year ago that bernard j. sanders, self-identified socialist democrat of the people's republic of vermont, would be not just, not just at parity with hillary clinton, but starting to lead her in national polls, threatening her in nevada? what if that -- and you say what is going on here? lou: if you'd have told me that in december, i'd have been highly dubious. >> and the reality is the bases of both political parties, so we've been told one thing pretty consistently for the last 20 years which is idealogically
siloed. there's a liberal party and a conservative party, what do we increasingly say the voters of these two parties say? you know what? maybe we'll do what we want, and you won't tell us what to do. lou: it seems to be that is precisely the attitude that is being driven in both the sanders' candidacy and the trump candidacy, and it's made life very difficult for everyone else. because that seems to be what is resonating across the country. >> sticking it to the man is fun. people enjoy it, and it feels good. lou: well, there will be, as you well know because you're going to be on the decision desk watching this thing through from nevada for the democratic caucuses there, the primary election in south carolina, trump looks to be -- >> should be. lou: -- so far ahead -- >> he's 14 points ahead in the real clear politics average policies going into this -- polls going into this. he did it in new hampshire, he demonstrated in new hampshire it's semi-open, in south carolina it's all the way open, democrats, independents --
lou: and rational, by the way, at the same time. still rational. >> his coalition can march in south carolina. they can, democrats, independents and republicans can all show up for trump. we expect him to do that well, 14 points ahead. i expect him to do that number or maybe even better. lou: and turning to nevada, the caucuses harder to judge, harder to apply a metric that's convincing. your expectations. >> in iowa they flipped coins, in nevada they cut cards. i expect bernie sanders and his motivated folks to keep it pretty close, and hillary clinton will have to wait another week for her firewall to kick in. lou: wow. all right. look forward to seeing you tomorrow. >> we'll be there. lou: chris stirewalt. be sure to vote in our poll tonight. the question is, tell the truth now, are these republican primary elections the most entertaining you've ever seen? [laughter] cast your vote at lou dobbs news, these are entirely scientific polls we conduct here, so you can vote with confidence. links to everything at
loudobbs.com. a man in australia testing out his body camera, and that worked out well for us. look at this. he managed to capture this stunning moment when, as you will see here -- whoa! a meteor lit up the sky above a beach in victoria. the bright lights followed by the falling meteor streaking through the sky straight toward the water. we can't tell you what happened after, a classified matter. i'm just kidding. the video is missing now inexplicably, the camera can't be found -- [laughter] joking, of course. spectacular, and that's just how these things should end. up next, a few thoughts on the stakes for the gop in south carolina, the dems in nevada tomorrow, and the world famous harlem globetrotters once again coming up with an incredible, seemingly impossible trick shot. you don't want to miss it. that video has not disappeared. we have it queued up and ready
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deirdre: a few thoughts on what is at stake. here is how it will work for the republicans including 29 delegates they go to the winner of the primary. seven congressional districts, total of 50 delegates at stake. 1237 needed to become the party nominee. trump has a ways to go. seventeen delegates he has one so far. of course republicans require delegates. unlike democrats that super scandal. how bad is the misrepresentation and chicanery? hillary clinton.
she holds nearly 25 times more delegates than poor senator bernie sanders. this after they split the vote in iowa and sanders when in new hampshire. the democrats, one man, one vote. what are they doing over they're? talk about disenfranchisement. they won't even let the people select the nominees. south carolina as well as the democratic caucus. i hope you will join me tomorrow. we begin at 6:00 p.m. right here. don't want to miss it. our quotation of the evening the history of the peloponnesian war. in a democracy someone who fails to get elected to office can always console
themselves with the thought that there was something not quite fair about it. things haven't changed much. they're coming right back. stay with us. hillary clinton can't quite assure the public that she has never ever live. >> i don't believe i ever have. lou: how big his trust? we are about to find out. we take it up here next. and extreme biking through an urban obstacle course with no margin for error.
lou: joining me now, executive editor of the weekly standard,standard, good to have you with us. republican strategist former bush white house advisor. let's start with a moment on the campaign trail today. trump gets excited about brokering a peace deal. listen to this. >> if i went i don't want to be in a position where saying to you, we don't want trump involved. >> just this week donald trump said that he would be neutral. between israel and the palestinians.
let me tell you this, as president -- lou: first,1st, your reaction. is that a fair construction of what trump just said? >> what trump said this he would be a fair-minded negotiator trying to negotiate between the sides. trump is pro-israel, as most americans are. a strategic ally. he does not realize how hard it will be to get the palestinians to make any meaningful concessions. they still want to hold onto this. lou: to you think that trump distorted the context? >> i think anybody -- lou: you politicians.
>> anyone that has been in washington for any period of time, supporting israel is one. you said you did not agree. >> i don't think boycott is the way to go. >> he knows there are ways to handle. lou: he goes to the heart for every citizen, and tim cook is out of his mind. >> there is a process. lou: out of his mind in my judgment.
violated his fiduciary responsibility. now, the very moment of the serving of that court order this is a risky proposition. >> i would neither. he is obviously going to have to cave. the whole issue, he just doesn't have a leg to stand on. lou: what i find fascinating is president obama has not said a word. >> very typical, not all that surprising. >> not going to the funeral of justice scalia. the 1st time in history. this is a man who was to be taken seriously.
>> is not a factor involved. this year one of my real regrets here is the partisan shift the divide is bigger. one way to deal with that is to show up at a republican supreme court justice funeral. >> because presidents lead by example. lou: thank you very much. appreciate it. out with another nailbiting video. showing a professional mountain biker running down a man-made obstacle course. some impressive jumps flying effortlessly to are you kidding me? i wouldn't do this no matter
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libya, at least one of the islamic state leaders got it yesterday. we still do not attack the central hub, the islamic state. we are fighting. i don't understand why we continue to report on this as if it were some kind of effort requiring the we will of the american public as we move our military assets toward a conclusion in the resolution of this fight against the islamic state. it seems to me to be a series of skirmishes at best that could go on in perpetuity of being decisive. >> i don't disagree. this is been a bit of a phony war. the administration is engaging in a way that really doesn't have any end in sight.
eradicate from strongholds in the caliphate. certainly there is no evidence of it in libya. very, very late. as you say, this is a one-off. if it is not followed up by a serious campaign we will see this thing continue. >> exerting itself now and there is greater instability as a result of this administration. anyone or certainly ourselves. this administration directed the destabilization of egypt. this administration directed the destabilization of libya. this administration is
responsible and is not taken responsibility for the destabilization of the middle east, and we have some very difficult better choices and our allies in the region. left with the consequences of what has been sheer recklessness and ineptitude in my opinion. >> there is a lot of truth, and you did not even mention the complete withdrawal from iraq and staying away the hope that this conflict to go away. everyone predicted it would only get worse and the jihadists would win the day. that is where we are today, trying to eradicate this now only will come at enormous cost and american blood and treasure. a genuine tragedy and the huge strategic failing on the part of the
administration. lou: is it your judgment that this president who is obviously trying to run out the clock for his presidency which will end up the 20th of january next year, can we make it? do you think we will make it without having the intervention of an ugly reality, an event that will require a response? >> i think we will only make it if we are extremely lucky because all the cards are against us, i think. all of our enemies understand this president strategy lack of strategy and the next 11 months is the time to go for broke. lou: always good to have you here. >> thank you, lou. lou: incredible video. get ready. i when's causing flames to
spread across what became thousands of acres yesterday some of the damage on video including this fire tornado. rosa as emergency workers were still fighting the fire. more than 1500 acres of land burned. up next, the fight over ted crews is eligibility to serve as president. it is being taken up in new york and utah and taxes. and i take it up with radio talkshow host right here next. stay with us.
lou: joining us from san diego, mike slater. fox news radio's john gibson. thanks for being with us. let's start with cruz. a chicago court to hear the natural born citizen case against ted cruz. this is happening in alabama, texas, utah and new york. is this a coordinated effort or serendipity that it's happening now? >> there are some cruz supporters who want to get it out of the way quick. ultimately it would have to rise to the supreme court level.
i predict john roberts does not wants the supreme court of the united states deciding who is going to be the next presidents. that didn't work out so well last time. i suspect if and when it gets to scotus, they will say he's eligible, leave us alone. >> it doesn't mat wear the lower courts or the higher courts think. it's the public opinion. hillary clinton tried to take obama down with that card. i think hillary clinton would play that card against ted cruz as well. it would prove to be a distraction and she may be successful with it. lou: the fact is tim cook is playing sort of a tough guy for corporate america saying he's bigger than the governor defying a federal court order to help
the f.b.i. in a case of obvious national security. your reaction? >> look, i'm colling to you via an apple. i have got i phones in my pocket. there is a delay on that apple product, by the way. >> oh, well. i mean, i don't want tim cook protecting a terrorist. i have apple products. i rely on their ability to keep me secure in my information to what extent that's valuable. but there is no flown the world we can't figure out who else syed farook was talking to. if it's on an apple phone, i think it's tim cook's obligation to somehow get that information to the f.b.i. if he has to shoot the programmer who did it or burn
the building down, i don't care. lou: i agree with you, by the way. i don't know about the latter part of that. >> i err on the side of privacy with all things like this. that's just my nature. but there has to be way to do this properly. if you have a warrant for a specific search for a specific reason, then apple has to give it up. they will fight it and fight it. but they will have to give it you have and as you said destroy whatever program that would make it a problem for the future. lou: you don't have the right of privacy. apple knows everything it wants about you. google the same thing. microsoft. let's get rid of the idea we have to secrets here. we don't. the government may not not, but these massive corporations know it.
this looks like a high-risk proposition where tim cook is playing with fire in terms of the company and its brand and its very business. let's turn quickly to -- i guess i'll have to not turn quickly or otherwise to it. we are running out of time it's a mystery yes we'll ask you the next time it has something to do with donald trump and whether he will prevail tomorrow. thanks so much. john gibson, appreciate it. in our online poll, 64% of you say apple should cooperate with the f.b.i. 64%. time for a scowsm comments. janine tweeted out, thank you, lou, you are the only one who gives trump any credit. >> .