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attack dogs on politics on one side, that will be tough one to go against. melissa: interesting stuff, definitely teeing up super tuesday next week. i will be here late. david: i will be here late as well. melissa: huge week next week. we have a lot of work to do. david: "risk & reward" starts right now. >> i would like to introduce him because he is going to say something i think you will fine very, very interesting. thank you. okay, chris. >> good morning, everybody, thanks for being here. i am proud to be here to endorse donald trump for president of the united states. the best person to beat hillary clinton in november, on that stage last night, is undoubtedly donald trump. deirdre: new jersey governor chris christie making a surprise endorsement for donald trump for president. this is "risk & reward." i'm deirdre bolton. donald trump had a rough debate last night. this victory today, here is chris christie on why he is backing trump.
>> there is no doubt in my mind, and i've been saying this right from the time i entered the campaign, that the single most important thing for the republican party is nominate the person who gives us the best chance to beat hillary clinton. i can guarranty you, that the one person that hillary and bill clinton does not want to see on the stage come next september is donald trump. deirdre: my political power panel is here. conservative commentator kurt slickter. also commentator danielle mclaughlin. are you surprised chris christie endorsed donald trump? >> wow, deirdre, i did not see that coming. i thought chris christie might have had better judgment. i was so wrong, very, very wrong. deirdre: curt you will get a lot of hate mail and hate tweets from our common followers. i know you can take it. i need your view, surprise, yea or nay about the surprise endorsement? >> it is curious. bully one meets bully two. when you're thinking down the
vote for vp pick. i don't see what christie adds to trump because they're so similar. i see attorney general christie. deirdre: i thinking attorney general, perhaps vp. in the past when chris christie was in the race slammed donald trump. not always best buddies. here is an example for you both. >> i just don't think he is suited to be president of the united states. >> why? >> i don't think his temperment and his experiences. >> show time is over, everybody. we're not electing entertainment in chief. showmanship is fun but will not lead america. deirdre: just strategy, donald trump says i don't care who endorses me. endorsements don't matter anymore, delegates do. do you think he is changing his game? >> he sure is, deirdre, after the beating he took at hands of marco rubio and ted cruz. wow, that was agonizing. watching ted cruz go at him like a lawyer, just tearing him
apart. donald trump, he is backpedaling now. pardon the expression, heavyweight endorsement from somebody likechris christie, that is not the winning donald trump that we've seen. this is a huge, or huge departure. he is trying something new because he is losing. deirdre: all right. we're going to keep that in context. you just want to point out facts so far, donald trump even for super tuesday is leading in most of those 12 states. but we're going to keep talking. senator rubio, keeping his momentum from last night, mocking donald trump, reading his tweets. >> you want to have a little fun? [cheering] what does donald trump do when things go wrong? he takes to twitter. i have him right here. let's read some. you will have fun. [cheering] all right. number one, here's the first one. lightweight marco rubio was working hard last night. this is true. [laughter] the problem is, he is a chalker.
and once a chalker, always a choker i guess what he meant to say. he spelled choker, c-h-oo-k-eh-r. during one the breaks he was having a meltdown. he have had make up thing applying make up around his moustache. he had one of these wet moustaches. he asked for a full length mirror. i don't know why the podium goes up to here. he want ad full length mirror. maybe to make sure his pants weren't wet. i don't know. [cheering] i see him pacing back and forth he is huddled in the corner talking to somebody, waving his arms up and down and person is trying to calm him down, anyway. i'm a chalker. all right. next tweet.
leet weight chalker, marco rubio looks like a little boy on stage. not presidential material. he meant to say lightweight. l, e, i, g, h, t. so he got that wrong. looks like a little boy on stage. not that i look like a little boy. i wouldn't even be the youngest president you about he would be oldest president ever elected. it is eight year term so you start to worry. [laughter] all right. last one, wow, every poll said i won the debate. this is him about himself, okay? [booing] great honer. i think he meant to say great honor. i don't know how he got that wrong because the e and o are nowhere near each other on the keyboard. great honer. >> [inaudible] >> that's what i'm thinking. one tweet, three tweets misspell words so badly. i only reach two conclusions. number one, that is how they spell those words at the wharton
school of business where he went. or number two, just like tum tower, he must have hired a foreign worker to do his own tweets. deirdre: holy cow. is this the marco rubio, curt, at that we have been waiting for? >> i've been waiting for it, deirdre. i've been waiting so long. it is so wonderful to come out and see somebody, you know, using the, only strategy that is going to work. you have to prick this pompous jerk's balloon. he is going at donald trump's strength and weakness, his ego.
ego got him here. ego is what will take him down. great job, marco rubio. i loved it. keep it up. deirdre: danielle, too little, too late? >> possibly. it will happen on super tuesday, obviously trump has enormous leads and pretty much everywhere except texas. but agree with curt. this has been coming for a long time. rubio is really only one who stood up to trump and taken him at his own game and played what i would call the trump card. media hasn't done it.
certainly gop hasn't done it. no other candidate has. rubio will reap the rewards of this i think. deirdre: too both of your points, one, senator rubio's big moments last night when he went after donald trump on his stance on obamacare. >> we have to get rid of the lines around the states so that there is serious serious competition. >> what is your plan any understand the lines around the state whatever that means. this is not a game where you draw maps. >> you don't know what it means, that is the problem. >> what is your plan on health care? you don't have a plan.
>> the biggest problem he got he really doesn't know about the lines. biggest thing we've got, reason we have no competition is because we lines around the state. >> what is your plan? only thing to get rid of lines around the state. what else is part of your plan. >> the lines around the states means. it was almost done. no. no. >> he developed this plan. >> cues me. >> what is the plan? >> bring in competition. when you get rid of lines it brings in competition. instead of having one insurance taking care of new york or
texas, you will have many. they will compete. and it will be a beautiful thing [applause] >> that is the only part of the plan, just the lines, interstate competition. >> the nice part. you will have many different plans of the you wilt have competition. >> now he is repeats himself. [cheers and applause] >> every night, says five things. everyone's dumb. will make america great. with, win-win, win. winning in polls. >> all true. >> and lines around the state. deirdre: senator rubio on a roll, followed his tone this morning by calling donald trump a con artist. >> this is unreal. i mean again this guy is a con artist. always making things up and no one holds him accountable for it. here is a guy being sued for fraud by, for defrauding people. here is a guy who had to pay a judgment for hiring polish workers illegally to build trump
towers. he will have to release his taxes and hillary clinton will take him apart. deirdre: kurt, did rubio finally catch trump on obamacare question, idea being, erasing all state lines. most voters will at some point want more details than that? >> just a few more, deirdre, just a few more. i love this because the lines around the states is going to become al gore lockbox of this election. a meme that everyone gets hine and everyone starts giggling. you can't take trump on policy. he doesn't have any, don't know any, doesn't care about any. you have to take him on his ego. marco rubio is doing, lesser extent ted cruz. only way we take this charlatan down. >> for fairness i will take devil's advocate position, kurt he is leading in nine left of the 11 states votes on super
tuesday. big amount. he fended off attacks from other candidates on stage. here is a quick quip. >> you're the basket case. this guy is choke artist. this guy is liar. >> can somebody attack me please? [cheering] deirdre: can somebody attack me please. not sure what to say about dr. ben carson in that particular moment. how do you see this shaking out. danielle, there were a lot of people said listen, last night for senators cruz and rubio, it was about proving this is a three-person race, not a one-person race. do you agree? >> i do agree. there is a little bit of back and forth about kasich certainly, whether he stays and can win ohio. whether that ultimately stop donald trump to getting number of delegates that he does. we knew and expected it would happen. cruz and rubio two on one. they went against trump and tried to blow holes in his lack of policies.
i've been watching this for very long time. i didn't think we would see trump last that long because he doesn't have policies. he is clearly resonating with voters. what rubio and cruz are trying to paint him as closeted democrat. show people he is all bluster. he doesn't really have solutions people need and certainly doesn't have deeply held policies. deirdre: like what he said about the closet democrat. especially some of the comments on obamacare. kurt, danielle, thank you both. glad to have you both with me. >> thanks for having us. deirdre: reverend al sharpton is packing his bags if trump wins. >> he, nominee. i'm open to support anyone, while i'm also reserving my, my ticket to get it of here if he wins. only because he probably having me deported anyway. deirdre: will he, won't he? tune in this tuesday, to find out. fox business, all day coverage, all night coverage.
we're going to start watching for results at 6:00 p.m. eastern time. there is new report that the irs cyberattack may be worse than initially thought. exponentially. find out next if you've been affected. facebook ceo mark zuckerberg blasting some employees who have been crossing out slogans on office chalk board that read "black lives matter." they have been replacing those with all lives matter. more on racial sensitivity. some decorating or rather attacking a decorated marine. now there is second incident. we'll tell you all about it. >> hard for me to understand, that it would have been -- reason for it.
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deirdre: cyberattack targeting irs maybe seven times as bad as previously thought. that is a huge number. hackers may have had access to that many more taxpayer accounts. fox business's gerri willis with me now. gerri, how is this possible and how did the reporting and how many accounts were affects versus probably what is, what explains this gap? >> i have to tell you this the most astonishing thing i heard in a long time. what happened as you asked? cyber crooks basically used stolen social security numbers to break into the irs website, okay? something called get transcript function. what this is where people can go to get their old tax forms they filed over year but they're a treasure trove of personal information. your social security number. your address. how many kids you have. their social security number. on and on it goes. so originally the irs said 114,000 people had their information stolen.
then they said, no, no, more like 330,000. then today saying, 700,000 people had had their information stolen. they say they're getting a better and better idea of this all the time. plus 575,000 people crooks tried to steal their information and were unsuccessful. so this story becoming bigger an bigger. let me just tell you one thing here. if you find out through the mail because the irs is sending out letters on monday, you will get letters this next week telling you if you're a victim. be sure to get a pin number, personal information number you can put on tax filings so they know it's you. bad guys can't get ahold of your private information. deirdre: one of the many great things but, you always have good, clear, specific advice. i'm listening. i will be looking at my letter box. i want to ask you about last night's debates because for two candidates, we talked about, senators cruz and rubio was all about showing it is still a three-person race. so lots of yelling.
lots of claims. lots of counterclaims. can you please help us separate fact from fiction? reporter: i was given job fact checking this debate. if you listen closely you know, you know all too well that there were more untruths than truths i think. let me tell you what i thought were most important untruths. first of all trump saying that he couldn't put forward his personal financial information because he is being audited. let's listen to this. >> i will absolutely give my return but i'm being audited now for two or three years, so i can't do it until the audit is fin ired obviously. i think people would understand that. reporter: deirdre, i got to tell you not so much. you can share your information anytime you want using tax form 8821 on irs website. any private individual can fill that out and then irs will make your information public. but i have to tell you i spoke to some accountants today, they said no way would they advise their clients to do it because
they would lose leverage in the audit if they shared that information with the public. now, another interesting one, this one was actually true. rubio claims that trump hired illegal workers from poland and faced a one million dollars fine because of it. look at this. >> he hired workers from poland and he had to pay a million dollars or so in judgment. >> wrong. that's wrong. totally wrong. >> people can look it up. people are google it up right now you. you will see million dollars for hiring illegal workers on one of his projects. reporter: got to tell you here, mr. trump did lose a million dollars lawsuit brought by a union representing those illegal workers and it went on for some time. they ultimately settled. the settlement was said to be $4 million. deirdre: gerri, thank you so much. fact or fiction we love it. "fox business alert." our economy is taking off. >> three, two, one.
deirdre: former reagan economist steve moore is my guest. he says, oh, what a recovery. >> anyone claiming that america's economy is in decline is pedaling fiction. deirdre: other subjects. another tranche of hillary emails scheduled to be released tonight at 6:00 p.m. 40 minutes away. my next guest says one of them could make tomorrow's democratic south carolina primary up for grabs. >> have you always told the truth? >> i always tried to. always. always. >> some people are going to call that wiggle room that you just gave yourself. always tried to -- i mean, jimmy carter said i will never lie to you. >> you know you're asking me to say have i ever, i don't believe i ever have. >> is that a question that you would like another shot at answering? >> i will just say no. pet moments are beautiful, unless you have allergies.
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>> only person on this stage ever been finded for hiring illegal people to work on projects. >> i'm only one on stage who hired people. you never hired anybody. >> donald, true or false you said government should pay for everyone's health care? >> that's false. >> did you say if you want people to die on the streets if you don't support socialized health care you have no heart. >> i never said people would die on the streets when i'm president. when you get rid of lines it brings in competition. you will have competition. you will have so many different plans. >> now he is repeating himself. >> i watched him repeat himself five times four weeks ago. i want to tell you -- >> you repeated yourself five times five seconds ago. >> how will you make them pay for the wall? >> i will and the wall just got 10 feet taller, believe me. >> promised governor kasich can respond.
>> can somebody attack me, please? [cheers and applause] deirdre: u.s. economy was top of mind for the gop candidates in the debate last night. this is as new economic data were released. >> three, 2, 1. deirdre: u.s. economy grew at 1% in the fourth quarter. so that is the latest revision. heritage foundation chief economist steve more with me now. steve, what does 1% growth mean to you? >> it means that rocket didn't launch, deirdre. deirdre: never mind launched and crashed. it didn't launch. >> it is poor. revision upward from 0.7%. this is first look at gdp. 1% doesn't mean anything because you're just treading water because you've new people entering the workforce.
deirdre, we're growing one to 2% growth range for six years. one of the reasons i think people are so crank sy. you don't get pay races at that level of growth. you don't see big increase in high paying jobs of that growth. that is why i think there is so much economic anxiety out there. that is one of the reasons trump is doing so well in these polls. deirdre: just an expression. at least you make argument of frustration. >> yep, sure is. deirdre: job creation, to your point, steve, one of the most important issues for everyday voters. senator rubio, donald trump's sparring about it, last night. here is quick recap. >> you hired workers from poland. >> i'm only one on the stage hired people. you haven't hired anybody. [cheering] i hired tens of thousands of people over my job. >> you hired 1,000 people from another country. >> don't tell me about hiring. >> senator hold it. >> you haven't hired one person in your life.
deirdre: steve, as you said, some voters feel that trump is on their side. let's put it that way. is he also seen as having the most business experience where he says, to senator rubio, you never hired anybody, which is obviously not true but he makes his point? >> well look, rubio walked right into that punch. this is what makes, by the way i don't have a horse in this race but the fact that donald trump is businessman, not a politician. face it, that is big, big part of his attraction. politicians don't hire people. they hire people with other people's money. businessmen invest their own money. deirdre: or shareholder money or whatever. >> exactly. look, i mean i don't know. there may be skeletons in donald trump's closet about the people he has hired or hear there is rumors about some of the contractors that he has never paid off and so, we don't know a lot about donald trump but we do know he is fairly successful businessman. and i think, when i go around and talk to people they say i
really like that about him. he is not a politician. he is someone who has actually gotten thinks done. deirdre: gotten things done, but as you say there are some questions about the some of the paperwork, some. times. mitt romney out, raising doubts about donald trump's taxes. of course mitt romney faced this himself. donald trump came back and said i'm not releasing my taxes because of an audit. >> well, maybe because of the fact i'm a strong christian and i feel strongly about it and there is biased. >> you think you can be audited by being strong christian? >> i've seen that. many christian groups have been complaining about it and complaining a long time. deirdre: irs commissioner john koskinen, said audit's trumps scenario is rare, that individuals are not audited year to year, three-year cycle, five-year cycle. what do you make of that? >> first of all does anybody trust anything the irs says these day, deirdre?
seriously. we had major scandal two or three years ago with the irs. we know the irs did target conservatives. we know they targeted conservative organizations. i know businessmen and women are successful after they donated money to republican candidates or to conservative causes all of sudden they got flag for an awed you did. i don't think donald trump is being paranoid here. i think there is real reason to think this administration has politicized by irs. people have right to be suspicious when you are flagged for audit. was this random or because of my political activities. deirdre: hard not to be paranoid. >> yeah. i don't think he is being paranoid. look, if you, this is why i'm such a huge champion as you know, deirdre, for flat tax. something would really reduces role of irs in having to audit all of your financial transactions. deirdre: transparency. >> they don't have to look through every single financial
form or every transaction. deirdre: steve, so many people who wish that would be so. steve moore, thank you as always, for the time. glad to have you here. >> okay, see ya. deirdre: some facebook employees have been crossing out slogans on an office chalk board, ones read "black lives matter." they have been replacing that with all lives matter. cofounder and ceo mark zuckerberg, asking employees to stop. more on corporate racial messaging when we come back. another batch of hillary clinton emails scheduled to be released half an hour's time. my next guest says, one of them could be a game-changer in the democratic south carolina primary. >> i am 100% confident. this is a security review that was requested. it is being carried out. it will be resolved.
set to release another batch of emails, about 1,500. how much will the release hurt hillary saturday in the south carolina primary? >> i don't think it will hurt her saturday in the south carolina primary. i have been talking to voters and shockingly they don't weigh this seem scandal into their consideration at all. deirdre: who are you speaking with? tons of people i speak with on both sides of the aisle are concerned about this? >> i think you are talking to high level. when you talk to actual supporters at bernie sanders and hillary clinton rallies, they think this is political shenanigans. to me this is incredible that you could possibly nominate someone who could be under
indictment. i find that surprising. deirdre: i finds it very surprising. even people i know who want to support her are concerned about this particular issue. they don't want to nominate somebody who may ends up facing criminal charges. i want to shift gears, though. mitt romney is raising doubt about donald trump's taxes. >> i think we have good reason to believe that there is a bombshell in donald trump's taxes. i think there is something there. either he's not anywhere near as wealthy as he says he is or he hasn't been paying the kinds of taxes we would expect him to pay. or perhaps he hasn't been giving money to the vets or the disabled like he has been telling us he's doing. the reason i think there is a bomb smell in there is every time he's asked about his taxes
he dodges and delays. deirdre: it seems like mitt romney who was once attacked for his tax is doing this to donald trump. >> i think it's fair before voters go to the polls and nominate donald trump that they see what's in his tax returns. there are questions whether he's giving lots of money to charities and military charities like he says he does. and there is a dispute about whether he's worth as much as he says he is. he sued an author once for saying he was only worth $100 million. deirdre: he mass been under oath with this so that's from a legal stand point when the ball moves
forward. the irs commissioner said donald trump's claim that he can't release his taxes because he gets audited every year. he says that's weird because most people when they get audited, they get audited between 3 to 5 years. do you think that's an inconsistency or just something that many weird. >> i think it's weird the chief irs is weighing in on this during a presidential campaign. i think there are plenty experts to speak to this. i'm not sure the head of the irs should be weighing in on issues like this during a presidential campaign. facebook co-founder and ceo mark zuckerberg taking a break from defending apple asking his employees to stop crossing out "black lives matter" slogans and
matter" and writing in "all lives matter." i consider this malicious. black lives matter does not imply that others don't. kevin, glad to have you here. in his memo zuckerberg says he will be holding a town hall where he will educate the staff about black lives matter, what the movement is about. how do you see zuckerberg's as a business leader. is this the right role for him? >> i think it's absolutely ridiculous. first of all that he would allow somebody to write black lives matter knowing it's an inconvenient dairy comments right now because all lives do matter. the fact that somebody would write all lives matter and that bothers him should be disturbing to every one. we have political correctness at
corporate level run amok. he decided he will use political correctness and social engineering as the his company to make some sort of social statement. it's become this way across all of america where as opposed to focusing on getting more jobs and creating opportunities for people, the ceos are tied up in this type of nonsense. what they should are written on that chalkboard is black jobs matter. his company only has 2% -- deirdre: all of these silicon companies have been publicly blamed for not trying to find a more diverse workforce. >> they shouldn't be blamed for that. google and apple and some of these other companies, they are not discriminatory, if you are black and you have an i.q. of 200 and you can code like a maniac, they don't care what color you are.
the fact that they want to do this social engineering is an example of why jobs are moving offshore. h.r. departments and companies have to build their risk portfolios based on the backlash of things like this. deirdre: some teens using black lives matter call to attack first decorated marine chris marquez who earned a bronze star in iraq, now a second marine has been attacked and left for dead in d.c. >> i was just trying to walk home. dewere same city. how. deirdre: same city, how disturbing? it seems this is a pattern. >> i don't believe they were in uniform. but the thing that is consistent is the amount of crime and increase in crime in cities like
d.c., baltimore, new york, chicago, et cetera. if you look at what's been happening with the lack of law enforcement because of barack obama's justice department, these kids have been allowed to be free-range hoodlums. the outcome is decorated marines like chris and others have fallen prey to it. they are caught up in the backlash of what happened because of the michael brown situation and the hands up don't shoot and other false narratives. deirdre: kevin jackson we thank you as always. winning last night's debate on social media, one of dr. ben carson's comments is going viral. >> the fruit salad of their lives are what i would look at. deirdre: find out why governor
kasich is chopping fruits. senator marco rubio telling people to facts check trump * on google. and some people did. >> i wish we would have but you did criticize him for using the term self-deportation. that's on the record and people can look it up. i'm sure people are googling it. trump polish workers. pet moments are beautiful, unless you have allergies. then your eyes may see it differently. only flonase is approved to
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telling viewers to google statement trump made. you just heard him telling people to google donald trump and polish workers. donald trump spoke about self-deportation. that saw a 1700% spike in search. >> according to google trend, marco rubio had the highest favorable social media reaction while dr. carson had the lowest. in term of twitter trump with 51% followed by rubio, john kasich, and ted cruz. been carson was asked what he would look for in a potential supreme court nominee. >> as president i would go through and look at what a person's life has been. what have they done in the past. what kind of judgments have they made. what kind of associations do
they have. the fruit salad of their life is what i would look at. reporter: the twittersphere wasted no type jumping on that one. then the memes started. this one with a caption how would ben carson vet a scotus nominee? he would look at the fruit stall laughed their life of course. somebody created the kasich fruit ninja game. we can't believe. social media was on fire over a particular audience member during the debate. check this out. >> you will be starting a trade war. >> i don't know anything about bankrupting four companies.
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if you want to make bold, outrageous statement. the "new york daily news" is doing that more than anyone. we can understand it's not a good day when you are endorsed by david duke. but david duke hasn't been a relevant figure in our politic since 1991. it's a sloppy, irresponsible cover for the "new york daily news" which just means on some level it's just another day. deirdre: we are showing our audience a few covers. a lot of them take shots at donald trump. are they equally vitriolic? is it personal? is this something between the publisher and donald trump or have you seen other covers be this tough on other candidates? >> not other candidate, but they have been this way on the
national rifle association. they compared the nra president to a terrorist. they had a version of house of card with former speaker boehner in it they called house of turds. it's like a bunch of third grade kids thinking they own a newspaper. it's all dedicated apparently to the republicans. deirdre: say theme, different subject. telemundo anchor last night. we'll listen in. >> a brand-new telemundo poll said that three out of four hispanic that votes nationwide have a negative opinion of you. they don't like you. what does that make you an unelectable candidate in a general election. >> no, first of all don't
believe anything telemundo says. city won with every single category. men, high income, low income, i won with hispanics. >> concerning the nevada victory allow me to explain the poll in nevada was based on a tiny sample, d statistically insignificant in the state of nevada. deirdre: whether you are for trump or not, he did win nevada with hispanic. is it hard to imagine there are conservative latinos out there? >> she was not just this way with trump, she was also this way with marco rubio and ted cruz. she said beforehand she was going to try to expose to the country how hispanic these men were not, because when you work tore telemundo hispanic means
liberal. so if you are conservative you are somehow white. if that's the way it works, does that mean hillary clinton and bernie sanders aren't exactly white? deirdre: charles payne is with you. charles: if you thought last night was a donnybrook, the hate makers are at it today. >> i am proud to be here to endorse donald trump for president of the united states. there is no one better prepared to provide america with the strong leadership that it needs at home and around the world than donald trump. charles: many people considered that to be perfect timing after marco rubio's strong performance at the debate. >> you are the on person on the stage find for hiring people to