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routh guilty of the murders. our news continues. martha mccallam is stand big with the latest coming up. >> breaking tonight live pictures from texas where we just got the verdict in the american sniper murder trial and the verdict tonight was guilty. welcome to our continuing coverage of this breaking news story. so when the judge charged the jury earlier today they're given the option of taking the case tonight or going home, and waiting until tomorrow. they said they wanted to answer the question. so they went into the room at 7:30 eastern, two plus hours later, we heard this. >> we the jury find the defendant, eddie ray routh guilty of capitol murder as
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charged in the indictment. the verdict is signed by the fore person of the jury. >> with reaction to all of this, we go first to casey steele steegel tonight. casy what is it like tonight? >> it's been an emotional rollercoaster as i said when i talked to while waiting on this verdict, we were looking at each other, members of the press this afternoon saying there is no way they're going to be able to get to closing arguments today and then, once the jury came back from lunch it went at breakneck speeds. the judge said they're going to move into closing arguments and then, the jury going to be handed the case. closing arguments lasted two hours or so.
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as they're going through, the prosecution showing graphic crime scene photos members of chris kyle's family and chad littlefield's family weeping in court. at one point, tea kyle got up and stormed out of the courtroom. she banged the door and everyone turned around to see what is going on she was upset over the defense's assertion that eddie routh mother should have told chris kyle her son had violent tendencyies and she was upset over the notion chris kyle was texting his buddy chad littlefield with eddie ray routh in the truck headed to the gun range that day that chris kyle knew the defense said something wasn't right with him and tea got up and stormed out. the families are breathing a
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sigh of relief tonight with this guilty verdict. they say they can begin to get closure here. >> thank you very much. >> let's go back to trace ghallager live from los angeles tracking reaction to this as well. good evening, trace. >> as you know the verdict was not a huge surprise but that did not stop the families from holding hands and crying when the verdict was read. a producer told us after the verdict was read, they got up and read victim impact statements they were read in court and those were told were also extremely emotional. after the statements, chad littlefield's mother judy littlefield came out and she addressed the media. listen to her. >> for god to give justice for us on behalf of our son as and always, god proved to be faithful
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we're so thrilled that we have the verdict tonight. thank you for thank you for treating us with respect and honoring us. thank you very much. >> imagine if you will two years of excruciating pain for the family. the trial lasted three weeks. on the other side of the spectrum, you had jody routh, walking out of the courtroom, devastated knowing her son will spend his life in prison. we have not heard from routh's sister, who told her brother she loved him but hated his demons. texas governor abbott tweeted tonight, justice, jury did not buy the insanity defense the veteran's group boot campaign quoted a texas jury finds eddie ray routh guilty,
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hash tag never forget. many tweeting in support of taya kyle there for closing arguments. >> just so much tragedy on both sides of the table. joining us is fox's producer jennifer and she listened to the victim impact statement right after the verdict jennifer, this has been as we have said throughout, a very emotional trial, not a surprising outcome but for families what a horrible experience and journey this has been. >> yes. margea. it has been an emotional couple of weeks here the family and friends waited over two years for this to go to
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trial and get some justice for their family members. and today was an emotional scene when the jury read the verdict of guilty. and sending the defendant to life in prison. with crying and hugs just extremely emotional. >> what about the victim impact statements, jennifer? >> we heard from chad littlefield's brother and father. and they were very emotional, as well, they got up stood and faced eddie routh who turned and looked and paid attention while they were talking. showed no emotion his brother told eddie you took the lives of two heros you became an american disgrace. chad's dad pointed out he didn't know chad's name when he brutally murdered him. he says now you will have the rest of your wasted life to
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remember his name. and he turned around and had tears running down his face. quite a scene as you can imagine. >> his mother, as we just saw, chad littlefield's mom went out in front of the courthouse and thanked everybody. she's a lovely woman. never should have happened. none of this, ever should have happened looking at the picture, this mug shot, he's changed physically from the skinny guy he was when this happened, bulked up in two years of waiting for the trial to get underway. but you know i guess the families cried for many reasons and part just relief, jennifer i imagine that this is finally over. this part of it anyway. >> oh, yes. i'm sure that that is the biggest part of it. his family had to sit through so much brutal testimony they were
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there every day. chad littlefield's parents sat there every day and looked at horrific pictures of the crime scene, listening to tapes of him describing the killings and the multiple times he said he didn't know his name and you know, those sort of things so just looking at chris kyle's family listening to all of this horrible testimony i think a lot is probably relief. they're very happy with the verdict today >> i know marcus latrell, most people know known for the lone survivor book and story was there throughout as well. was he there for the verdict? >> he was, he was sitting behind me with his wife, he has been on and off, been to a lot of trials but his wife has been in every day of it. he was there tonight supporting his friends. >> and chad littlefield's wife leanne struck up a friendship on
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the soccer field with taya kyle. that is how they met, right? >> right. their kids played sports together. that is how they met. the two guys, you know taya testified they became instant friends, just, you know got along and seemed to mesh and had fun together and that as we know, chad would go out and help chris. so good friends >> two couples that should have been hanging out for many years after that, what an end. joining us now is judge alex ferar, helping us track this case for weeks. there is a look at what we saw earlier in the courtroom this evening. eddie ray routh gave nothing on his face throughout this process, appearing to be unaffected, by all of it.
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and how, just imagine what jennifer just described to us, the moment when chad littlefield's father, had to sit in that courtroom and listen to eddie ray routh say i didn't even know the guy's name i pumped bullets into him, i didn't even know his name he looked at eddie ray routh and says his name is chad littlefield and he spelled it for him. in a wish that he would remember that name for the rest of his life. we know the rest of that life will be spent behind bars. it's a waste. this entire situation of these two men's lives who were spending the afternoon trying to help someone. when you think about the fact on the way there they felt something wasn't right and texted this guy is straight up nuts, chris kyle said watch my six said chad littlefield. watch my back. boy, both of them surprised and
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taken down. and in the most-dramatic and horrible fashion by the man on the lefthand side of the screen what. a case this has been. the judge has been helping us track this case over the course of the weeks and joins me now on the phone. good to have you with us your thoughts? >> not a surprise, i guess, i think most people in the legal community thought this was a difficult case to win even in light of the fact that all insanity cases are difficult to win. this one just had a lot going for the prosecution. defense had strange behavior and probably banking on the fact the public doesn't really understand the difference between somebody being mentally ill, crazy in their eyes, and being legally insane under the eyes of the the law. and i think that the best way to put it is that there are a lot of criminals who are mentally ill, and you think of a serial
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killer. you have to be mentally ill to be a serial killer or a pedophile there is mental illness but they get convicted because they know what they're doing is wrong. so here, you know the prosecution had a lot of ammunition to show he knew what he was doing was wrong. and they had him fleeing the scene saying he wanted to apologize to the family. all of this behavior. they had comments from him an insane person won't make. one of his doctors commented on that. then, as his story started unfolding it doesn't match up that he thought they're going to take him down at the range when littlefield got behind him he got worried but we find out he said to doctors he thought about shooting them both when he was in the back seat of the car heading to the range. and decided against it because he realized he might get injured
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in the crash. that is logical thinking for a person who is insane the prosecution's job was to educate the jury that legal insanity is not this guy is nuts this, guy is nuts is vernacular to say this guy is crazy. >> and eddie ray routh took off with the truck and said look at my new truck. dead man's truck. >> defense is going to mount whatever defense they can. >> yes. >> thank you so much. >> any time. >> and for more reaction, more statements, new conferences coming up, stay with us we'll be right back with more in the verdict of the american sniper trial.
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>> you got a saviour complex? >> i just want to get the bad guys.
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the guilty verdict for the man who killed chris kyle and his friend, chad littlefield many of those reacting are navy s.e.a.l.s. a friend of chris kyle joins us tonight. clint, thank you very much for being with us. tell you about your relationship with chris. >> just like with the relationship with all of the other men an opportunity to serve with, their families, you get to know them and get to know the people that created them like wayne and debbie kyle. and and you know we're called to do this thing chris was called to do. like on that relationship with great affection and great inspiration. >> yes. i mean just what was your reaction when you see what
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happened you look at the skill and intense training you go through as navy s.e.a.l.s. >> one of the things we do is just kind of get to go with whatever the mission is. the mission in that moment is just come around him and his family, and come alongside them and do what we do which is thank them forgiving us an opportunity to serve alongside such an amazing guy and love them through the next hours and days and months and years. after we all have to reconcile not having him with us anymore. once setting the battle rhythm on that, we think about what happened it's something we ask ourselves a lot of about but not at the expense of letting wayne and debbie know what kind of son they raised and letting taya know what kind of man she loved. and just amazing children he
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raised, while he had them. so we'll come to that. and how do we make sure it never happens again. mission one is tanning business bihis family. >> focus on his life and his family, and supporting them and just relishing every moment with them. thank you for speaking with us. >> it's minor in comparison to what chris did. up with of the things i loved is celebrating the marine corps. he loved supporting them. one of the things i will tell you this verdict is affirm validity and accountability. it's something washington, d.c. and private sector can embrace a little more accountability when
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you do something wrong. he had a good faith and ffdz in the american people. i trust justice wins and i think it's something our leadership can learn and it's something our military loves and admires. >> clint bruce, thank you for calling in. we do appreciate it. >> you bet. >> we've got these reactions tonight from all of this, and the courthouse, as people filter out of there. we continue to watch the scene where all wrapped up tonight. you heard about this moment taya kyle shed tears and left the scene, earlier today, at out of frustration. so we're going to show you a little bit of the interview we did with her. we'll be back with more with the
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>> i wanted to be here to represent chris, and i still want to embrace everything he came here to do with me. >> that was american sniper, chris kyle's widow, taya kyle on the red carpet. she flew from the courtroom in stephenville to l.a. to be there for that show where the movie was nominated for multiple awards. tonight a new chapter in the chris kyle story. eddie ray routh found guilty for murdering kyle and a workout buddy and friend of his, chad
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littlefield. pete, it's good to have you with us tonight. this is just a tragic, tragic story. your thoughts on this outcome? >> well, first of all, taya kyle has been an amazing spokesperson for her husband. rock solid in carrying on his legacy and we're proud of how she's conducted herself throughout i hope she has a measure of close closure and peace. mr. routh deserves the same protections under the prosecution anyone would and veterans like chad and chris kyle served to protect. but now he's been guilty for capitol murder justice has prevailed and chip as way at this narrative that post
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traumatic stress is what tipped the scales here. this guy was showing schizophrenic ten dense yeez, who knew at some level right from wrong and didn't see combat when overseas. i'm glad to see the jury coming down the way it did tonight. hopefully the families can move on in some way. >> it's a grant point you made, pete. because you, i take away from what you said that you don't want him to be seen someone who got messed up by being in the military. right? >> that is right. the film "american sniper" shows difficulties of a guy like chris kyle four deployments and impact on him and his family. how you manage to process that. and chris kyle says he deals with post traumatic stress but
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doesn't necessaryily claim. and here is eddie routh, suffering from other mental disorders. and i think chris kyle represented the best of how we manage multiple tours, eddie ray routh tried to use post traumatic stress in some level that he knew he was doing and going to go to jail for the rest of his life. >> yes. >> pete, thank you very much. good to talk to you tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks for joining us. >> so in just moments we'll show you the interview with taya
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>> more on breaking news out of texas. a jury took just over two hours to convict eddie ray routh for capitol murder in the american
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sniper murders that happened in 2013. so we're expecting new video of some of the most powerful testimony that came from taya kyle when she was on the stand they're going to release it and we're working to get that turned around for you now. i had a chance to sit down with taya last month on this program and talk about the then-blockbuster movie. she's a terrific person and an emotional, strong woman, watch this. >> let me ask you a question chris. would you be surprised to tell you the navy credited you with over 160 kills? >> do you ever think that you
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might have seen things or done some things over there that you wish you hadn't? >> oh that is not me. no. >> that is not you? >> i don't tell you enough i'm so proud of you. you're such a great father. >> are you not worried about what might happen? >> i'm willing to meet my creator. and answer for every shot i took. >> what where are you? germany?
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where? >> i'm stateside. >> your home? what are you doing? >> i guess i just need a minute. >> what haunts me are all of the guys that i couldn't save. >> hey, hand me my daughter please, right now. >> i'm ready. >> oh, my god. i'm ready to come home. >> taya kyle is chris kyle's wife, she joins me now in the trailer, it's emotional enough for you and me, it's such an extraordinary story. i want to thank you on behalf of all of our viewers i know and
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the american people your husband was an extraordinary man and the way he lost his life helping other people who had gone through difficult things in their own service is, was just horrible. and you wish that the outcome of this had been so much different but when you watch the movie for the first time it must have been so nerve wracking for you to want this to be portrayed accurately. >> it was. and i don't usually cry over this. grief is a weird thing. it hits you hard yes. interesting things, it's very natural, thank you. to see the movie. you know moments where i just watched it and saw bradley earlier today, he's warm and caring and i'm just grateful. i miss my husband. >> of course you do. when you see him and i wonder it's told from both sides of the story, you at home, and did you
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feel when you saw the movie like you're getting a sense of what he actually went through? in a more-full way? . >> i don't know it was more full at that point. chris is good by little bit and little bit telling me more about his service, what he did. i started to get an understanding from other people as well while we're together in california before moving to texas. so it didn't feel unnatural to see it there. i just -- reliving it, certainly, they did such a good job making it so authentic. i got to live some of it which was beautiful, wonderful and painful all at once >> the book he finished the book just so everyone understands and the screenplay was written. tell us the timing. because that finished right before he was killed. right? >> it's true. jason hall just finished first
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draft and texted chris, and chris texted back lol was the last thing and then he got news that he had been killed. jason and i went through stories and experiences emotions together. so it morphed over time. >> how about your children? will they see this? how much will they understand about their father's story? >> it's so interesting. they're elementary school age. it's not appropriate for them to see the movie yet. they know their dad is just their dad the one that held them to a high standard and loved them and laughs at them. it had nothing to do with his service, but they're aware of that. and we watched the trailer together, spent 45 minutes watching first trailer together. i didn't want them to see it on tv so we talked about it.
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they had such strong faith and such a solid foundation. yes. they're doing pretty well. >> it will be a tribute to them. >> it's a great part of both of their lives. >> yes. thank you for having me. >> thank you for being here. >> loved meeting her. she's a terrific person. what a day today has been for her as well. we're going to go live to the court house for what's happening there and arthur idell is here with the legal side of what happened in that courtroom tonight. blp [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 million people. [ alex ] transamerica helped provide a lifetime of retirement income. so i can focus on what matters most. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica.
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>> again we're hoping to get this video of taya kyle giving her testimony on day one of the trial and will bring that to you as soon as et comes in. let's go to casy seigel outside of the courtroom where a relative of the victim told the killer quote, you took the lives of two heros, men that tried to be a friend to you you became an american disgrace. those are the words of mr. littlefield tonight. who more can you tell us about that? >> it was interesting because we heard those witness impact statements and those are typically introduced in the
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sentencing phase to try to its necessary because if the jury came back with a not guilty verdict there is one sentence, live in prison without parole the prosecution wanted to give family members on the stand and let eddie ray routh now. you talked about chad littlefield's parents. routh admitted he didn't know chad littlefield's name when he murdered him. tonight his dad leaned down and said now you know my son's name and he spelled it out. l, i, t, t, t, l, e, f, i, e, l, d. this is one of the moments you realized what these poor people
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have been going through his mom spoke about two years offing aonof agony. i had a chance to look at taya kyle. there are moments they'd just sit there and sob. judy littlefield would sit there and rub her husband's leg i'd see them exchanging glances and that is what we experienced tonight once getting word the jury had reached a verdict. they were holding hands and there were tears shed as the judge read what the 12 member jury decided, guilty on a capitol murder charge. it's just been a fascinating night in terms of the way this panned out, martha. and no doubt we're hoping to hear from more of the victims' families in the days, and weeks,
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to follow. >> joining me to react to this is arthur idalla, and i was looking at the closing arguments here from the state. and they were ares very heart felt. he said he survived four tours of duty in iraq came home unscatheed and died face down in the dirt in a luxury shooting range. it was awful, bloody and a senseless crime. >> arthur, as we've said there wasn't too much of a contest here. everybody knew who pulled the trigger in this crime but it was a very deliberate and brutal crime. he shot them at close range. and most of the bullets were gathered in one area, on both of them. you know?
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the back. >> that is why you call it execution or assassination? your heart goes out for chad he is helping out a buddy. he wasn't really trying to help the defendant. just going along for a ride here, he's dead. he's 36, married with a daughter. and you're right. it's senseless. and it stinks all the way around. >> when you look at the way this trial was carried out, mark, any thoughts on how both sides did in presenting these cases? >> well, defense had a really tough time. they knew the chances of this jury in texas or anywhere for that matter going along with the
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defense's theory is probably so low, it approached almost no real value. jurors are not supposed to consider what the outcome of the verdicts will be in terms of sentencing but everyone of those jurors, ten women, two men knew that if they were to go along with the defense, if they did it would go to a mental hospital and once a doctor says it's okay to be released there was a chance he would get out, and be amongst society, that was never going to happen. >> mark? >> i just want to ask. mark brings up a good point. there was an effort on the part of the defense to move the trial because it was happening in this area and right in the middle of american sniper mania. all across america. would that have made a difference? >> no. that is going to be the biggest grounds of i find it interesting jurors wanted to get into that jury room and reached a quick
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verdict. >> i'll tell you why. >> maybe they knew what they wanted to go by the end of the summations. >> absolutely. i think what they did is sending a message to the victims' family we can't bring your family member back or do anything but give you a guilty verdict. >> one thing from a procedural point of view, we heard for me in part is a foreign concept. there is usually a delay. weeks between the verdict and sentencing. but usually, like under the circumstances, when your name is insanity, the defense attorney will ask the judge to make sure you note my client gets mental treatment when incarcerated. you also want to be consistent in claims i didn't hear that. also, in the state i practice in new york when you poll the
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jury you ask every juror what is your verdict? they say guilty, guilty, guilty. not was your verdict unanimous. >> it's procedural things. >> it doesn't make a difference. >> just making observations clear. >> one thing i want to make clear is that this defense we've learned rarely ever works. but statistically in the case of american heros the chance of -- a 2% work my work goes down is less than a fraction of 1%. >> no sympathy. >> none. >> correct. he didn't seem to object to the outcome. he apparently looked at chad hillfield's dad and listened to every word he said when speaking to him. strange. so we're going to continue with this. thank you, guys. new reaction to the verdict we've been talking about in the american sniper trial.
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breaking tonight the after nearly three weeks of testimony, a texas jury spending only a few hours before returning a guilty verdict in the american sniper case as it came to be called we're getting reaction from another well known vet. hi, trace. >> you know, it's important to note that when the judge read the verdict and sentenced eddie ray routh he said to the jury you're free to go and speak to the media or not. so far we've heard nothing from
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the media. we're getting important reaction from across the country. one, the governor of texas at the time of the murder was a state attorney general. tweeted quote justice, the jury did not buy insanity defense, marcus latrell tweeted quoting here justice served for chris and the littlefield families. to eddie ray routh you thought he had ptsd before? wait until the boy independent of corrections find out you killed a texas hero. then, a group called boot campaign. a texas jury finds eddie ray routh guilty in the murders of chris kyle and chad littlefield maybe the most important statement might have come between don littlefield as well
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as eddie routh. he says he wanted to become a real man but destroyed the community. told eddie he was trying to help you. he gave you this time because he liked you and he spelled his name. eddie ray routh said he did not know his name before he killed chad littlefield and chris kyle. >> quick break. we'll be right back. well, did you know pinocchio was a bad motivational speaker? i look around this room and i see nothing but untapped potential. you have potential. you have...oh boy. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. if you're suffering from constipation or irregularity powders may take days to work. for gentle overnight
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that works as hard as they do. right now, buy one pair and get another free. do you ever think that you might have seen things or done some things that you wish you hadn't? >> oh, that is not me, no. >> what is not you. >> i was just protecting our guys. they were trying to kill our soldiers and i'm willing to meet my creator and ask for every shot that i took. the thing that haunts me are the guys i couldn't save.
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>> that is from the movie "american sniper". our coverage of the guilty verdict in the american sniper trial will continue tomorrow morning. you look at taya kyle and littlefield family and one chapter of the pain that they have suffered and entour -- endured in this ended tonight. and chris kyle and chad littlefield trying to help another vet deal with ptsd. it turned fatal for these two men. chris kyle is an american hero and will be remembered as such. remember go to fox for the stories tonight. and thanks for being with us tonight, everybody. we'll see you in the morning. have a good night.
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continues. martha mccallam is stand big with the latest coming up. >> breaking tonight live pictures from texas where we just got the verdict in the american sniper murder trial and the verdict tonight was guilty. welcome to our continuing coverage of this breaking news story. so when the judge charged the jury earlier today they're given the option of taking the case tonight or going home, and waiting until tomorrow. they said they wanted to answer the question. so they went into the room at 7:30 eastern, two plus hours later, we heard this. >> we the jury find the defendant, eddie ray routh guilty of capitol


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