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him. >> who thomas jefferson's been around forever or bill o'reilly? >> don't leave any boxes in your office. >> we're going to do the after the show show with heather and sandra. thanks very much for joining us. bill: tense moments in paris. french police taking down an alleged suspect. the suspect entering a police station threatening officers with a knife. he was also wearing what was thought to be an explosive belt that turned out to be fake. north korea testing nukes in the standoff between iran and saudi arabia. plus there is this. a new threat in the fight against isis. some are calling it a jihadi
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university. terrorists being taught to make weapons to be used in acts of terror. martha: some of the things we are look at this morning, driverless car bombs, including mannequins that would be driving these cars. also a class on how to recommission out of date bombs people thought they would never have to worry about again. these folks are figuring out ways to rewire them, rework them and give them heat seeking capability that could potentially take out passenger jets. let's go to john huddy live in jerusalem. this is a significant discovery.
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>> it is. it's being called a gold mine by security analysts. look at this video. it shows terror students, terror trainees taking classes literally on how to build weapons. it shows groups of trainees being taught how to build a battery for heat-seeking missiles that can log onto aircraft including passenger airliners. they are also being taught how to build and operate a driverless car with scrap parts to make the remote control vehicles. they can manipulate the steering wheel and brakes. they use mannequins with lasers and thermostat to keep the
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body -- keep it at body temperature in order to fool detection. this is compelling and scary stuff indeed. martha: to see these videos is putting it at a whole new level. bill: that's one threat sowing danger around the world. iran claiming the saudis bombed their embassy in yemen. if that's true it would ad more fuel to the middle east fire. state tv showing a weapon capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. u.s. forces are stretched thin in afghanistan trying to help
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and hold back the taliban. a blast sparking protests in seoul near one of the most dangerous borders in the world. this is where we believe the test was carried out the other day, 36 hours ago. a long border with china. china does not want the unrest or instability with north korea. move away from asia and the middle east. it was for a time less explosive but it isn't now. it has slipped into chaos. saudi arabia ruled by the sunnis, iran resumed by the shiias. to the east you have the ongoing conflict in afghanistan. to the west on top of all of
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this you have isis in eastern syria and western iraq doing what they have done for two-plus years. adam kinzinger is here to talk about all of this. how did all of this seemingly erupt at the same time? >> look, if you actually look at the history of the world for a very long time. the world war iiera has been the most peaceful in history. post world war ii we were the leader of the world and it was the most peaceful. folks who seek to push the wrong lifestyle and wrong way of life for people is continuing to go around the world. bill: what is u.s. leadership doing to address the concerns and bring down the tensions?
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>> it doesn't seem like have much. but i think he doesn't understand that america has a unique role to play. he comes from a left-wing ideology. he believes colonialism and american arrogance has caused the problems we have. though america makes mistakes, it many the american leadership of goodness that has helped the world. this send the wrong message to our allies and the whole region is starting to explode. bill: 12 months to the end of this administration. what is your view. >> i hope he pushes back against the taliban insurgents in afghanistan and ratchet down the
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tension with saudi arabia and let them know we are their allies. if he doesn't do this things will get worse. martha: all this volatility overseas becoming a huge issue for the white house. carly fiorina says the turmoil reflects the united states letting enemies off the hook, time and time again. >> when our he bassy is attacked in benghazi by terrorists and there is no response, you get bad behavior. when syria crosses the red line and there is no response, you get more bad rehigh year. when iran launches tests of ballistic missiles and there is no response, you get more bad behavior. when north korea attacks sony pictures and there is no response, you get more bad
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behavior. martha: her point is clear. we just heard from adam kinzinger. he talked about the fact that since word war ii the stature of the youth has changed so dramatically. one of the central questions for these candidate is going to be how do you view the youth' role in the world. -- the united states' role in the world? >> it's more and more of a defining theme of the campaign. you have north korea, afghanistan, iran, and syria. they help republicans make their case against barack obama. because one thing unites republican candidate is they argue all of these situations were created or made worse by
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obama's foreign policy. and who should be running for president on the democratic side but barack obama's secretary of state. martha: there will be increased pressure on these candidate to be more specific on how they view the united states' role. where did they place our military power. what areas did they find to be particularly hot and of grave concern to them. donald trump has gotten the attention of the country. the next step will be for he and others to outline what he would do. >> we have seen proposals for ground troops to fight isis, for vigorous air campaigns against isis. we have seen jeb bush calling for tougher pressure on china. ted cruz doing the same thing
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over this north korea thing. we are seeing actual concrete suggestions from these candidates. trump on the other hand is prospering by projecting a general sense of strength, that he would be tough with everybody. but he hasn't said very much what he would actually do in any of these hotpots. bill: in a moment, two different viewpoints about the chaos. the state department spokesman john kirby is our guest. he will stop by in a few moments. then rudy giuliani on how we can turn this all around. martha: obviously hillary clinton will have a lot of questions having been secretary of state. 17 salt miners rescued just moments ago. watch this.
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martha: the 17 mine workers rescued from upstate new york. watch. a happy moment. they were trapped 700 feet under the ground all night long. first responders lowering food and blankets to the group. unclear how they got stuck in the first place. thankfully no injuries. well done, kudos all around. bill: tensions is today laterring between saudi arabia and iran. a bit earlier i spoke with rear admiral john kirby and we spoke about the topic of the korean peninsula. good morning, the world is a mess. let's start in north korea. how concerned should we be with what's happening there. >> we are all deeply concerned
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about this latest nuclear test give the north. this is deeply troubling which is why we pressed for an knowledge meeting at the u.n. yesterday with the japanese of the u.n. security council to get together to figure out what the appropriate response will be. bill: as you know, all roads in north korea lead to china. what have we specifically done to communicate that concern? >> we have made it clear that two chinese leaders, and we'll continue to do so, that they have a role to play here. it is -- this is a regime in the north. this young kim jong-un who has
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shown recalcitrance towards china as well. we have done four security resolutions against this particular program since 2006. they could have been stronger but we didn't have complete consensus in the security council moving forward. what we need is strong, tough and consensus-based resolutions. and options moving forward to include perhaps tougher sanctions. bill report intelligence community say we flat out missed this one. these countries have reached precarious point. and it's a 50-50 proposition. what is american leadership doing to bring down the tension? >> the secretary of has been
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active in eaching out to counterparts in suffereddive arabia and iran and throughout the region. our message has been consistent and clear. we want the conditions to be brought down. we want the conversation to continue. this is not the time to be severing diplomatic ties. this is a time for dialogue. nobody fist under estimating the tensions that have arising. we ex blessed our concerns about the legal process in saudi arabia and we did that before this weekend's events. but these nations need to work through it bilaterally. so not just secretary kerry, our ambassadors ... bill: others would argue withdrawal from that region. are they have listening to us? >> i think it's a complete fallacy to say we have withdrawn from the region. the united states is very, very active in the middle east.
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we have been very energetic and active on a diplomatic front. it's the united states who has been a real leader in trying to get a political process going in syria. that has all been as a result of u.s. diplomatic even gaifnlgt a u.s. military leadership in the koaf lynn. -- coalition. bill: the taliban is on the rise in afghanistan. isis is in that country. we have 9,500 forces in a vast country as you know. is that an appropriate number? >> the matter -- the number that matters is the capabilities of the afghan security forces. they have responded well to these attacks. it's not a surprise to anybody that the taliban would try to
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foment more insecurity and instability and conduct acts of violence. groups like al qaeda and isil would be trying to exploit -- bill: it may come as a surprise to the military u.s. men and women who fought and died in that country to make hard-fought gains over a long period of time. 9,500 today. the president wants to cut that number in half. is that smart? >> the president worked strongly with his military commanders to allow for the,800 troops to the stay longer here this year than originally envisioned. but he's also given his commander the latitude to manage that force flow as he sees fit so he can continue to do the job he needs to do to train and advise afghan security forces and conduct the targeted
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countser terrorism capability. we do believe it's the right number. but the number that matters most is the number of afghan security forces defending their own borders. martha: back at home there is another american in court on terrorism charges. accused of targeting u.s. service members. we are live outside the courtroom with the latest on that. former cia director, general david patraeus faces the benghazi committee. congressman trey gowdy says they are getting more information with each passing day. congressman trey gowdy joins us live with his take. >> we learned information no previous committee either endeavored to look at or learn. you don't have to take my word for it.
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so an american terror suspect is due in court charged in a 2009 attack on a u.s. military base in afghanistan. the indictment charges he's links to al qaeda operations in pakistan. if convicted he could face 37 years to life in prison. rick leventhal is with us from brooklyn. >> the defendant is an american citizen who turned his back on his homeland and now he could spend the rest of his life behind bars for attempting to kill u.s. soldiers overseas. he was born in texas, moved to canada and went to college. the feds say he become radicalized with two co-conspirators, telling a friend they wouldn't hear from him because they intended to become martyrs.
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he was involved in trying to blow up the new york subway system. and then using two car bombs. one blew up. the other one didn't. he will be in court today for arraignment at noon. martha: officials have been tight-lipped about the nature of that attack in afghanistan. reporter: there were many attacks on u.s. forces in afghanistan. but the a.p. is reporting there was a dual-car attack in kos -- khost city. no americans were hurt in that attack. the indictment charge him with
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conspiracy to murder u.s. soldiers and conspiracy to bomb a government a tilt. he faces a minimum of 37 years in prison and a maximum of life behind bars. bill: investors on edge. martha: president obama's keeping america' power in check amid growing turmoil overseas. rudy giuliani joins us coming up. but one of the president's former top intelligence officials on this. >> we have to show strength that's hard power, stuff that we are just playing around. it doesn't work in the real world.
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bill: the dow opening with a
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triple-digit deficit. making for the worst 3-day streak for the new year in 8 years. china struggling. china's stock plummet another 7%. gerri, what will happen here in the u.s.? gerri: we are looking at a dow down 243 points. here you have it right here. that's better than what we thought was going to happen. originally this morning, 90 minutes ago it was poised to pileup the 447 points. this may look bad to you this morning but it could be worse. in this newly connected world we are all following china. let me give you a little piece of optimism. i know this is painful and if
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you are close to retirement, it's especially painful. so have we fallen yet? has it been three painful days? yes. but we are still above where we have been. i'm hearing people talking about shopping for names that are quality names to buy. bill: what is the drag. can you explain what happens in china overnight and what happens this week? gerri: china markets selling off dramatically. the government gets involved to try to stabilize any problems there. the main market fell 7.3%. it was closed down in 30 minutes of trading. this is important for many reasons. chain today is the number two trading economy in the world. it's critically important to the world's economy. this is a newly connected world.
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when china gets a cold, we all feel bad. a proxy for china, apple which not on produces some of its iphones there, it also has a huge market in china. the number two and many products is china. this affects a lot of u.s. companies when china is having problems. bill: it takes 10 minute for all dow 30 components to open. four minutes into trading, 262. thanks, gerri. martha: there is a lot of global uncertainty out there that raises new questions about america's credibility as a leader around the world and how we begin to get that back.
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retired general mike flynn makes it clear what he thinks is missing. >> when there is a void of u.s. leadership around the world, and i have seen this in many places, but particularly in the middle east in the last couple decade. whenever there is a void in u.s. leadership it will be filled by dictate tores, by terrorists, by those threats that we face. i don't want to bash on our president. i don't. i want to help. but we are making poor decisions, we are showing the enemies and the threats that we face. we are showing them our weaknesses in such a big way, and frankly, it's very dangerous. martha: joined now by rudy giuliani. there is a big picture here. we are talking about china. europe, north africa, the threat
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of islamic extremism. how do we begin to turn this ship around? >> we begin with a president who is a leader, not a follower. the leading in the from behind extra injure has obviously failed by leaving vast vacuums that have been filled in some cases by dangerous forces. either islamic terrorism, russia, china, china trying to expand in the south china sea and america doing nothing by the. president obama laying down red lines 12 times to assad now being willing to accept assad throughout the rest of his administration. the united states has pretty much counted out, the first response the president will have is no boots on the ground. we are afraid to use our military except in the you've mysti.we need a military presenn
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that part of the world that wants to come here and kill us. martha: where would you put it. >> on the border with syria, i would create a no-fly zone. and the border of pakistan. when we had that we kept those places basically a lot more peaceful than they are today. when we had that we had them on the defense. when they are on defense, they can't plan attacks. it's hard to be planning attacks on the internet when you are being shot at. which is why we were safe for 8 or 9 years under president bush. the second thing i would do is give the department of homeland security, and jeh johnson is a good choice. he's a good homeland security chief. he should be given the job of training every police department
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in the country in how to look at the precursors of terrorism. he can bring in ray kelly, commissioner bratton. he can privilege in people who have expertise. i taught this all over the world. what's a -- look for someone hanging around a train station too long. people who are case the place or maybe giving courage to that woman who saw the san bernardino killers in the garage doing suspicious things which she never turned in. had she turned it in, i wouldn't have had to go to san bernardino monday and speak to all the workers. i said to them, i dreaded during september 11 having to come someplace else and share our experience with you. but i'm afraid you are going to have to learn to come someplace
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else and share your experience with them because i believe we'll be attacked again. martha: you heard about this terror university. we have hundreds, perhaps thousands who are eager to learn the trades. they are learning old missiles people thought were inert and they are retrofitting them. they are designing cars that are driven by mannequins. >> if we had 50,000, 70,000 troops in that part of the world, that university would never have emerged, isis wouldn't have emerged. why don't we just bomb the dam thing? why don't we just bomb it? martha: how does sky news figure out this place exists. >> if i were back in the reagan administration at the 8:00
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meeting, by that time ronald reagan would have already bombed that place. it would be gone. we know where it is, why aren't we bombing it. here is what president obama has failed to realize, the cover why we are so dangerous now. they are at war with us. they have been at war with us since the 1990s. they have not stopped being pat war with us. >> he believes was our provocation. it was iraq. and that's why we are here so they are trying to pull back as much as they can to make it nice again. what do we get? we get second worst attack in american history. now we have several attacks in paris. here is the truth hard for this
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president to face maybe because of his ideology. in dealing with bullies like these crazy terrorists, you have got to be tough. the tougher you are you push them back. if you show them weakness and they push and push and push. the same thing is true of puff continue. martha: we appreciate having you here. bill: another american killed while fighting terrorists overseas. today we remember staff sergeant matthew mcclintock. martha: two men in charge during the benghazi attacks. we'll talk to trey gowdy on what he learned from david petraeus. >> we learned about the before, during and after.
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martha: the pentagon announced the latest casualty in the war on terror. matthew mcclintock of albuquerque, new mexico died from his wounds. he was a member of special forces. this incident is under investigation. bill: david petraeus answering questions about the state of affairs in libya. a leading in the democrat adam schiff saying there was nothing new in that testimony. >> what we heard today not surprisingly i is completely consistent with what we concluded in 8 separate investigation. i'm not sure why it was necessary to bring the general
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back again. but perhaps was to gift appearance this subcommittee is about something apart from secretary clinton. bill: that's one view. republican trey gowdy says otherwise. tray gowd ir, good morning southern welcome back here. i'm trying to read between the lines. you are saying this was productive. petraeus said it's productive. adam schiff, a man i have know you respect says otherwise. >> adam had to say that. he voted against forming this committee in the first place and he threatened to walk away and called for it to be disbanded months ago. they also put up an ask and answer website before we interviewed the first witness. he was on house intel. so they issued a report. anything new that we find
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necessarily impeaches his own work from two years ago. i would ask you to go with what general petraeus said yesterday, not on was it constructive. it's constructive enough that we are going to talk to him again. he's a you've peek in witness. he can speak to all three areas of benghazi. bill: where is he taking you. >> he's take us to a degree of specificity. the before, the security. the cia with security at air annex with what the state department did not do with respect to security at their facility. the place where he helped me the most yesterday is the notion of whether we had assets that could have impacted in what happened in benghazi, and if we did not have assets in the region, this is a really important question, why did we not have assets in the region on the anniversary of 9/11. bill: go ahead and answer your.
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if the consul in benghazi did not have the proper security, why not? >> secretary clinton will tell you she had people and processes in place. we are interviewing one of those people this morning even as you and i talk. charlene latch is coming back before the committee. she'll tell you that's other people's fault and responsibility. my response to that is you are the secretary of state. you are responsible for everything. bill: democrats call this hyper partisan. another called it a charade. you talked to 60 witnesses. when will you bring this to a close and reach a conclusion as to what happened september 11, 2012. >> trust me when i tell you i'm
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just as anxious to wrap this up. i'm less anxious than the democrats because they didn't want to start it in the first place. i'm waiting on document from the white house, the cia and the state department. we are getting documents nobody else had with the 100,000. we gave up, i could say i'm going to be criticized no heart in what i do. so why don't i wait and get document i'm entitled to. we have about a dozen more witness interviews. leon panetta is really important. bill: leon panetta happens tomorrow, that's on the schedule. you endorsed marco rubio. and when you make an endorsement you know that brings some fire. here is fire from donald trump. i hope trey gowdy does better for rubio than he did with the benghazi hearings which were a
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total disaster for republicans and america. your chance to respond. >> mr. trump is certainly entitled to his opinion. i have been called a loser and idiot and probably in some components of life both of those are true. i'm a man in need of forgiveness and grace. i'm proud of what we have done on the committee and it's much more than one hearing in october. we interviewed 165 witnesses and 100,000 document. martha: donald trump leading in the the race for the republican presidential nomination. but why is that so? former house speaker newt gingrich says he has a pretty good idea. >> you think it world is losing its mind. i want somebody really strong. then in comes donald and trump looks really strong.
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martha: governor jerry brown declaring a state of emergency for parts of california where a methane gas leak has been going on for months. reporter: 4,000 resident forced to leave their homes. it's probably one of the biggest environmental disasters most have never head. it contains 100 wells a mile deep. when you dwil a well they will fill top to bottom with seem to prevent a leak. but when this was drilled in 1954 they only filled the cement up to here. it developed a leak below the
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ground and they can't stop it. methane gushing out. about the say emissions at 300,000 cars per year. the gas is making people sick, nausea, vomiting and headache. >> i went to a doctor yesterday and he said i have a form of asthma. i said i have never had asthma before in my life. >> the smell is driving us crazy. reporter: at the bottom of the well typically they will put a safety valve. 35 years ago they never replaced it. the state will use it own power, money and manpower to fix the problem and charge southern california gas every penny. even though the state has closed two schools and the gas company
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is paying to relocate those thousands of families, it claims there is no reason to worry. >> the l.a. county department of health says there is no health effect. reporter: the company is trying to drill a relief well, but that could take several months. they are trying to trap the gas at the wellhead but it could take several months. bill: there are new fears in pair rise. a man shot dead at a police station. which republican is best suited for the job. ohio governor john kasich will make his case live in just minutes.
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martha: let's get a look at markets, obviously under a lot
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of pressure due to what isp nag china. apple is one of the reasons we're seeing this decline as well but the dow is almost at the best levels of the morning after everything finally opened up. down about 200 points. we'll see how it weathers the rest of the storm throughout the day today. keele keep an eye -- we'll keep an eye on it. a brand new claim that isis behind attack on police station. a man wearing you side belt risched toward a police station yelling "allahu akbar!" and police shot him dead. it is one year to the day after the deadly "charlie hebdo" attack on that newspaper in france. welcome, everybody, brand new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning. police confirming suicide belt was fake but the terror fears rather remain real. that man armed with a large
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knife, wires coming out of the coat when he tries to enter a police station in busy part of the city popular with tourists. he carry ad sheet of piece of paper with the islamic state flag and claim of responsibility. martha: more on this with greg palkot with breaking developments. good morning, greg. reporter: literally this is breaking last few minutes. paris's prosecutor's office is investigating this as a terror attack. because of that new evidence which you just outlined on that, on the body of this person now dead was found a piece of paper with some kind of an isis flag, perhaps scrawled on it, perhaps drawn on it but also arabic writing which said to say claiming responsibility for this act, whatever act he was trying to accomplish at the police station, the isis terror group. there is phone, mobil phone on this person. that could help urgently and greatly the investigators trying to figure out whether there were
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any other people involved with this attempted act. let's go through what actually happened today, just before noon paris time, just around 6:00 a.m. eastern time. 40-year-old man of arabic appearance tried to enter that police station in northern neighborhood in paris. two police officers were standing guard. they told him twice to stop. according to reports he didn't. when he reached into his coat on the way in saying something like "allahu akbar!," that is arabic, for, god is great, they shot and killed him. he had on his possession a large knife, maybe a bucher's knife. not clear whether he was brandishing it or not, but police thought it was serious enough to end his life. the immediate neighborhood around that police station was immediately sealed off. two schools just a couple of storefronts down from where the police station is, subway and traffic disrupted. as you noted, that neighborhood popular with tourists, just a couple blocks away.
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a favorite tourist spot as we must note, that neighborhood just blocks away from not just the "charlie hebdo" terror from one year ago today, but also that brute terror spree about six weeks ago, back in november. martha: terrible events unfolding in paris over the last year. thank you very much, greg. ♪ bill: iowa caucus about 25 days from today. new hampshire follows a week after that. two of the candidates in fact, jeb bush and senator marco rubio holding events in new hampshire at this hour as the two jostle for position. attack ads are apparently getting nasty. carl cameron said they're on the air 70% of the time throughout new hampshire already. you're a month away, people. bush taking a jab at his former friend in a tough new ad from his super-pac. >> days after the paris attacks, senators came together for a top secret briefing on the terrorist threat. marco rubio was missing,
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fund-raising in california instead. two weeks later, terrorists struck again in san bernardino and where was marco? fund-raising again in new orleans. bill: chief political correspondent carl cameron live in new bedford, new hampshire. good day to you. these men come from the same zip code. set the stage for this battle. reporter: has been one of the subtexts battles for entire race the last two years. people talking about jeb bush, the governor, protege, former florida speakers of the house, up-and-coming marco rubio, senator, will clash and they really are. you saw there, attack ads not just from the campaigns but super pacs spending tons of money. supposed to be independent but seems closely knit the way both candidates beat up on one another. in the case of jeb bush and marco rubio, there are responses to each. take a look at the response going back at jeb bush's super-pac and jeb bush with a super-pac ad that supports marco rubio. watch. >> desperate candidates say
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desperate things and jeb bush is desperate. his attacks -- reporter: jeb bush actually acknowledged he may not be playing to win in new hampshire anymore. it may be a battle between himself and rest of the field that is not donald trump to come in second to donald trump. jeb bush as we speak is 15 minutes down the road in londonderry. we're in bedford. jeb bush town hall meeting just a couple minutes down the road. that is nature of trench war will be these two men today and remaining months before the new hampshire primary. much more intense here than it is in iowa. the tone of the campaign is more aggressive. tone of campaign rhetoric of candidates on campaign trail is. super-pacs are just blistering bill. bill: had coffee already today. crowded room there, carl. trump leads in new hampshire. what does rubio team or bush
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team say about the chances of catching him? reporter: well, more importantly the more folks we talk to at events like this where people are both interested in marco but just shopping around there's a growing consensus this idea that people are resigned to trump winning because of polls that had him ahead in new hampshire for so long. which brings up an interesting point about polls in new hampshire and we have had it burned into our ears last couple days here in new hampshire again, most people in new hampshire get polled so much, they stop answering phones. caller i.d. has made it possible for them to ignore a lot. when you go to town halls, jeb bush will do this in london derry, they will ask home people will be called by pollsters. half of the room will put up their hands. ask how many answered their phones you maybe get one or two. bill? bill: carl cameron from a house party in bedford, new hampshire. it is the time. carl, talk to you pretty soon. martha: that will make things
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interesting in new hampshire. donald trump leading some polls. some attribute strength to american concern about turmoil spreading across the world. they cite rise of isis and north korea's nuclear bomb test. just a couple reasons we pointed out this morning. some people are willing to take a chance on donald trump. >> you think the world is losing its mind and i want somebody really strong. in comes donald and trump looks really strong. he may not be totally what they believe in but he looks strong enough to try it out. think there is almost like andrew jackson, very substantial part of the american people saying, i would rather take a risk on him than on the current system continuing to decay. martha: something to think about. bring in jonah goldberg, senior editor for "national review" and fox news contributor. jonah, good to see you this morning. >> morning, martha. martha: newt gingrich is comparing donald trump to andrew
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jackson type figure. what do you think about that? >> well i think speaker gingrich who i am a big fan of is basically right. i would phrase it a little differently. i think there is such contempt for washington and such disappointment with the republican party and establishment, these arguments we've heard a million times people are willing to take a hail mary pass, make a hail mary pass with donald trump because they figure, he couldn't blow it anymore than the people in washington have blown it. i think that some of it also has to do with the fact that barack obama has had such contempt for the normal rules of the game and so when people say, well, trump has contempt for normal rules. game, they say, exactly right. we'll fight fire with fire. you know obama gets away with it. we should have a guy gets away with it too. i think it is a very risky proposition. when i see donald trump i don't necessarily see strength. and i certainly don't see seriousness. he strikes me more of a jesse
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ventura character than ronald reagan character but a lot of people see it differently. martha: you know, when you look at what is going on around the world, look at north korea, look at spread of islamic radicalism which we don't even really discuss in those terms, although the people who are living in that region are quite clear what is going on there, and there is lack of tying all that together and understanding what it presents in terms of a threat to the world as we know it essentially by this president. then you've got this contrast, politics is so often about somebody who is offering somebody that is complete contrast. that seems to be one of the things that people really do feel resonates with them, with donald trump. but you know, when you talk about seriousness, when you look across other candidates and look what we're dealing with here in the world, who strikes you as someone who is serious in their understanding of all of this? >> oh, look i think marco rubio, i think ted cruz.
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i think rick santorum, jeb bush, all these guys have done their homework. you may disagree, i may disagree with certain of their policies but they are serious guys who take their job seriously. they're doing patriotic diligence to do their homework. martha: what about the american people they get it and willing to go after it and understand the stakes that we take and they're the person that can lead the way? they're the churchhill? >> i agree with i, that is the problem. there is something about the political class and something about the voters themselves where the voters just don't want to hear things in the standard vocabulary of politics anymore. and so even if they are trying to convey that sense of understanding about the world going to hell, they don't, they don't have the vocabulary, they don't have the language for it the way donald trump does. really instructive, even says it again in his ads, when donald trump called for the ban on muslims coming into the country, the way he phrases it is really
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quite brilliant, he says until we figure out what is going on, right? martha: yeah. >> there is this sense the world is out of balance. he will figure out how to bring order back. martha: we looked at order completely lost in tehran, burning of saudi embassy there. those are pictures people being shown at home. jonah, thank you very much. >> thank you. bill: 11 minutes past the hour as jonah referred to, america's strategy facing questions about our leadership around the world. >> the leading from behind strategy has obviously failed by leaving vast vacuums that have been filled by, in some cases, very, very dangerous forces. bill: so if that is the case, what if anything should washington be doing as some parts of the world catch fire? presidential candidate, governor john kasich. he wants to be president. what would he do? we'll ask him next live. martha: el nino delivering wild weather on the west coast forcing rescues, evacuations and
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deaths. is the worst over there yet? plus this. bill: it is a cool scene. happened overnight. 17 lives saved from a salt mine deep beneath the earth. how they got stuck there and in the first place and where the rescue took place.
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♪ martha: so the race for the white house playing out amid chaos that is bursting out around the world and american leadership being called into question. north korea setting off nuclear
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weapons, sparking international anxiety. washington turns to the u.n. for action. an escalating tensions between two of the biggest powers in the middle east. a coming showdown between iran and saudi arabia. the saudi arabian embassy in tehran burned overnight. the obama administration urges people to stay calm and keeps its distance some would say. joining us in new hampshire republican presidential candidate and ohio governor john kasich. governor, good morning. good to have you with us today. >> good morning, martha. martha: obviously everything i just laid out raises so many questions and one of the biggest is, is it our responsibility to try to turn the tide with all of these hot spots that are a huge threat around the world? >> well, with iran and saudi arabia, keep our nose out of it. the difference between shia and sunni, those, that fighting has
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been going on since about theth century. last thing we need to do is get in middle of it. we hope it will settle down but not our place to be in the middle of it. secondly with regard to north korea, this has been a problem that has plagued many administrations, not just the obama administration but this has gone back for a long time and it was a policy that allowed us to sick the can down the road. -- kick the can down the road and the can is getting bigger and harder to kick. this is why the chinese, we have to make it clear to them, the fact they can't cyberattack us and they can't own the south china sea. we can't turn them into an enemy. we need to urge them to deal with this leader in north korea. in addition i think we need ballistic missile defense in asia. finally, martha, this is the most serious issue. we have to be able to intercept both by air and by sea, those efforts by north korea to take
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dangerous weapons or components or material and to ship them to other people in the world this is one of the biggest problems the world is going to face. the proliferation of very dangerous weapons, weapons systems, to non-state actors, not just to iran but to non-state actors. i'm talking about people who don't wear a uniform, who don't live in sort of a designated country where the policy of deterrents may not even work. that is what is facing us down the road. as my daughters get older and older. they will be 16. throughout their lifetime this will be a big issue. we must make sure we quarantine north korea. martha: how? >> well, you can't let them ship things out, martha. if they're on the sea, we've got to stop the ships. martha: how would you use our military? how would you stop them. >> well they supposed to have them been doing it. i don't know how robust it is of the you stop them on the sea. if we suspect they're flying things out, we'll have to
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intercept aircraft. we don't have any choice. the easiest way to deal with this is on the sea. easiest way to intercept is on the sea. we were supposed to be doing it. how robust has it been, i don't know. there is lot of suspicion they have been selling or giving ballistic missile capability to iran so iran could mount potentially nuclear weapon on top of a ballistic missile. they have to miniature eyes it. the other concern for me shipping out of enriched-uranium, enriched material. it is very, very concerning. we need to make it clear to the world this is not tolerable because this is a out of control regime and world will pay a price for this, not just us, but the world will, if non-state actors accumulate over time this material. martha: i understand what you mean. >> not a reason to panic but steady as she goes but firm. martha: clearly that is your, that is the focus of your greatest concern.
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as you say, you believe that iran and saudi arabia is something that we should stay out of in terms of the battle, the shia-sunni battle that will be raging for some time it appears. i want to ask you also about syria. >> yeah. martha: i want to play for a moment, now we have learned that the administration is basically accepting fact that assad is not going anywhere. here is the pattern what has been said about assad between hillary clinton and president obama since 2011. watch this. >> the major focus of our government was on trying to remove assad from power. >> i was one of the first leaders i think around the world to say assad had to go. >> we have to increase diplomatic pressure on the assad regime and work to convince those people around president assad that he must go. martha: but president putin does not want assad to go and he seems to have won that one. >> if i'm president, he is not
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going to win. this is going to drag out for a while. assad has to go. martha, in regard to saudi arabia and iran, let me say one other thing, saudi arabia is an ally of ours. we need to be able to support them. however, we need to make it clear to them that they're supporting of these radical madrassas, radicalized clerics out spreading hatred towards us, towards israel, that has to stop. but we're fundamentally aligned with saudi arabia. now in regard to assad you've got iran, which is supporting assad, which is also in line with russia. assad has to go. there can be no exception to this. and so i believe we have to continually support the rebel forces, not by being on the ground in the middle of a civil war but we need to support the rebel forces who believe a butcher, that is what this guy is, he is a butcher, assad has to leave office and all these negotiations in vienna will turn up with nothing. this is going to take action to
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force him out of there. martha: have to cut you off. a conversation that will continue. thank you very much. good to see you governor. >> okay, martha. thank you. bill: in a moment update on the fight against isis. how much ground is the terrormo group controlled today and how many terrorists have been killed next. the nicoderm cq patch, with unique extended release technology, helps prevent the urge to smoke all day. i want this time to be my last time. that's why i choose nicoderm cq.
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bill: fox news first obtained new information on the hillary clinton email story. inspector general report revealing that clinton's use of private email exploited a loophole said to be a legal loophole. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge has the story now out of washington. what are we learning about this now, catherine? reporter: fox news was first to obtain and review 25 page report that mrs. clinton's use of personal email account and server exploited loophole hid private communications from the state department as well as
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request for records under freedom of information act known as foia. this reads in part, foia doesn't authorize or requires agencies to search personal records or email accounts maintain on private serve is or commercial providers like gmail, and hotmail. it strongly relies on employers including of secretary of state to follow regulations when personal email is used forward copies to state department account to have it captured. clinton did not have a state department address to forward message traffic from the personal account. this morning at washington, d.c. think tank, chairman of the house oversight committee weighed in. >> the state department, by my view is probably the worst at it. and, we've got to figure out a way to actually make this thing work. some agencies, pretty good. but most of them are really, really bad. 40% of the requests are in homeland security. and their backlog is just, i
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mean it is just unbelievable how big of a backlog is. reporter: the state department report also found that the department wait time for freedom of information act requests far exceeds other departments, the requirement is 20 days. but at the state department requests for the secretary of state's communications typically exceeded 500 days, bill. bill: what about the allegation the state department misled the court about clinton's emails? reporter: well the i.g. report also concludes that two years before the public learned of clinton's private email account, the state department gave inaccurate and incomplete information about her email use when it told a non-profit, citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington that it had no records to provide when at same time it said dozens of state department employees were emailing clinton on her private account. we know more than 1200 classified emails have been identified in that email traffic including two that are top secret. that designation is now
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considered a settled matter by the intelligence community. this is leading national security attorney to conclude that the pressure is clearly building to prosecute. >> the cumulative effect, more and more and more of these messages that turn out to be classified, it is going to put more pressure on prosecutors to make a decision what they're going to do because it looks very serious, this many messages. reporter: ultimate decision rests with the attorney general. only up to the fbi director to make that recommendation. bill: catherine, thank you. more to come certainly. catherine herridge reporting there in washington. martha: so more than a dozen miners stuck overnight. they are finally free but how did they end up trapped in the first place? bill: good question. hot spots around the globe, like north korea seemingly spiraling out of the control. some republican candidates say it will only get worse. what does the administration say about that? fair and balanced debate next. >> when iran launches tests of
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ballistic missiles and there is no response, you get more bad behavior. when north korea attacks sony pictures and there is no response, you get more bad behavior
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martha: 17 miners are now safe and sound after an all-night rescue effort for them in upstate new york. [cheering] happy cheers, wow. they worked tirelessly to free them after an elevator left them stranded more than 70 stories below ground. laura engle in our newsroom. laura, how are they doing after this ordeal? reporter: hi, martha. 17 miners are said to be okay and no injuries and spirits high among the rescued men according to manager of the cargill mine. it might be a little cold. trapped men were maintenance and
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mechanical engineers stick 900 feet underground inside of an elevator. they were descending into the floor of 2300-foot salt mine to start their shift last night when their elevator suddenly stopped. they had food, lighting equipment, water with them, all things they have for overnight shift. that was good news. conditions were very, very cold. blankets, hand warmers, heaters were lowered down while a rescue plan was put in place with a crane that lowered a basket down to lift miners up four at a time. they believe a mechanical malfunction is to blame. >> that's what we believe happened, one of the steel vertical beams, guides broke loose and came out in the shaft enough when the elevator came down, it came in contact with it and stopped the elevator. reporter: each team of four men waited for the next team to be hoisted out of the shaft until all back on ground level together where they were then reunited with family members. martha: wow.
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what happens now? reporter: cargill looks exactly what took place, new york governor andrew cuomo order ad full investigation into the circumstances surrounding last night's incident. cuomo says he is directing a team inspectors from the office of emergency management, office of fire protection and department of labor's division of safety and health to that site. cuomo said he wants to insure this type of incident doesn't happen again. if anyone is at fault he says they will be held accountable. martha: great news for them and their families. laura, thanks. bill: global tensions escalating. volatile situations playing out overseas, including a bomb test in north korea, clearly a defiant act. state department spokesman john kirby telling us a earlier today, we, the u.s., working through channels in beijing to put pressure on china to do something about pyongyang. >> this is regime here in the north, this young kim jong union
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even shown recalcitrance to the chinese as well. so it's a tough nut to crack but the chinese do have influence. we would like to see them use that influence and exert influence to the maximum extent possible. bill: doug schoen, former advisor to president bill clinton. monica crowley, online opinion he had for tore "washington times" -- editor for "the washington times." both fox news contributors. good day to you. we have a lot to go through. yes or no, do you expect the administration to change its forward progress on events? >> no i do not. he had seven years in office. he never changed his tune and not going to in the last year. bill: doug? >> i wish i could disagree with monica, bill. i can't. i don't think he is going to change. i don't think we have leading from behind. i think we have absence of leadership. bill: 12 more months then. >> i think so. bill: imagine what could happen or unfold. >> makes the last year of obama presidency the most dangerous. bill: hillary clinton if she wins in november will things be different? >> possibly. she is walking a very fine line
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because she needs the obama coalition in order to get elected to become commander-in-chief but she still needs to put distance there between herself and the president because his policies have been absolutely catastrophic. u.s. retrenchment, u.s. disengagement, not just in the middle east, but around the world precipitated these kinds of convulsions. bill: doug? >> i agree with monica. with new hampshire and iowa first, and the obama coalition ascended in those two states, she can ill-afford to distance herself too far from the president and his very, very dug-in supporters. bill: both say she would govern differently on foreign affairs. >> she is more hawkish personally. she can't say it until she gets the nomination. bill: monica, yes or no do you agree. >> i think anybody is more hawkish than barack obama. hillary clinton might be more aggressive in terms of foreign policy. how packages that in order to get to the presidency --
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bill: republican field, carly fiorina likes to talk about hillary clinton. this is what she said about what is happening now. >> when you don't respond to bad behavior you get more of it. so not only has she gotten every foreign policy challenge wrong as the secretary of state, she has failed to respond. bill: i would expect to hear a lot more of that whether carly fiorina's campaign continues or not, especially as it reflects on libya and what is happening overseas. question for you and republicans, who is best-suited to manage this world now? >> well i think all of the republican candidates understand what mrs. fiorina just said. bill: all of them? >> they understand the lesson of hit, when the u.s. is weak in real terms or perceived as weak, bad guys advance, good guys retreat and wheels come off the world. we see violence, chaos, as a result of obama's weakness. all candidates understand this. ones that project greatest strength, greatest leadership, donald trump, ted cruz, chris christie. there are others but i think
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they all understand the broader point that the united states has a very unique place in the world. we have not been exercising superpower under this president. that needs to change or we'll have a far greater cataclysm on our hands. >> i do have a different answer. i think marco rubio has been the best republican expressing the need for an aggressive foreign policy donald trump basically has said, i disagree with him, that we can negotiate with vladmir putin and around the world. ted cruz has said we can't and shouldn't be involved in syria and can't get assad out. think we have to be fully engaged. rubio i think is best republican to do that. bill: did either of you see newt gingrich with greta this week? >> i did not. bill: reason he talks about donald trump reason he is leading he sounds likes a leader. you referred to that a moment ago. he sounds strong. >> projecting strength. remember,. bill, presidency embodiment how the american people want their couldn'ttry to act. so donald trump, whether you agree with him or not, whether you agree with his style or not he projects strength, he
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projects leadership. that's what they want america to act especially after seven years of obama. >> bill, i'm a kennedy democrat, a john f. kennedy democrat. let the word go forth to friend and foe alike we will stand up for freedom and liberty everywhere. that is what we need the next president to do, regardless of party. >> amen. bill: long live january of 1961. >> yes, sir. bill: check out crowley's piece in the "times," the real reason voters are on a rampage. interesting reader. thank you, monica. thank you, doug. >> thank you. martha: stunning new reports on progress made in the fight against isis. u.s. officials claiming huge losses by the terrorist group. so do we or are we getting the upper hand in this situation? bill: also this trouble. one of the hottest gifts for the past christmas now, the latest place to tell folks leave your hoverboard at home. and don't do anything like that guy is doing i guess, right? ♪
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bill: want to give i update on the stock market. a lot of concerns coming out of china reflecting on us. we're down 3 or 400 points but now a bit of a bounce-back, triple digit 142 to the negative side is a bit of a bounceback. 16,765 is the mark for the moment. china with major troubles overnight. they halted trading second time in three days. that is having effect on us. we'll watch it for you. 10:43 here in new york. martha: encouraging numbers in the fight against isis on the ground. the u.s.-led coalition reporting big gains as it retakes territory from the group in iraq and syria. a coalition spokesman saying, quote, we believe in iraq is 40% recovered he means. syria, harder to get a good
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number but we think around 20%. taking iraq and syria together, they lost 30% of the territory they once held. so what is the strategy? listen. >> if you're part of isil, we will kill you. that's our role. martha: master sergeant leroy petry is a medal of honor recipient, retired u.s. army ranger, fought in afghanistan during operation enduring freedom and spokesman for operation warrior call. good to have you with us, sergeant, welcome. >> great to be with you, thank you. martha: thank you. what do you make of this news? we hear about sort of the growth of islamic radicalism in so many regions but iraq and syria is the heart of the fight against isis. how do you think this is going? >> i think it's going well as long as our troops continue to stay motivated. that we have the support of the patriots here in america and we're working with our allies. i know as long as our forces have the will they will continue
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to do all they can to keep the push. martha: do you believe, if unleashed, some people feel like the commitment isn't strong enough that our forces would be able to eliminate this group and take away 100% of that territory? >> i believe that the, our troops have the will, and the will to do it. they just need the okay, and sometimes they don't need the people to know about what they're doing. sometimes the less people know the more they're able to do. i think we're doing a good job not letting our enemy know what we're doing. what i see in the news, i have a lot of friends continuing to serve and sometimes a quiet professional is the best professional you have out there. martha: you know, by the way, thank you for your service. you have been recognized in the highest possible way for your valor in this country and i know that you support obviously the commander-in-chief in terms of
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direction of all of this, however, when you listen to general michael flynn and you hear what he has to say about the fact we haven't been strong enough in terms of our commitment and that perhaps it might take boots on the ground to eliminate this group, do you have any thoughts on that? >> my thoughts are, it always takes boots on the ground. you always have to have the first person intel, eyes on the ground seeing what's going on so you don't have missed opportunities or misguided opportunities. and so our boots on the ground, especially our special operations are some of the most knowledgeable folks to have on the ground to make those critical decisions. martha: let's look at afghanistan for a moment because sadly we lost a special operations serviceman in that country just this week. we've been told that we're not in combat operations anymore in afghanistan. yet we're losing lives in this case, in marjah this time. you fought there.
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what is your take what is going on in terms of the resurgent tall lan? >> first of all prayers and heart go out to the family of the soldier we lost. he was from my home state of new mexico and state i live in now, washington. we're going into advisory role but you can't advise when you're not on the ground there with the troops. when you're placed in contact, whether that combat comes to bases that we're at or when we're out advising, it's not a combat role per se. that is not our intent. but sometimes you get put into that where bullets fly, they don't only shoot at the guys, hey, we're not playing. martha: sergeant, talk to me a little bit about operation warrior call which you are the spokesperson for and you feel strongly about the mission for. tell us about it. >> i still stay actively involved with a lot of our
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veterans and our active duty and one of the organizations i support is david faherty's first troops foundation. we came up with a thing operation warrior call, no more someone taking a pledge, hey, i will reach out to one of my buddies to check on their welfare. if they need any help or guidance i will do the best i can to help them. as well as having the courage to reach out to my buddies if i need help. and what it is, it's a chance to be honest with each other. a chance to reach out and check on your battle buddy. keep that continuity and keep that comradery we always love. we talk about 22 suicides a day. it is closer to 30. it is something that we have the resources to help them but the resources are for people that call in or walk into one of these facilities and there is nothing that really reaches out.
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so this is a way for us to reach out and do that battle buddy check, make sure they're doing okay, check on one another. we also have a civilian pledge for civilians that know veterans or military, just to check up on each other, not just once or twice a year but at least once a week. martha: it could be life-saving. >> absolutely. martha: what could be more important than our servicemen and women when they're home after what they have been through serving our country. thank you very much, sergeant. good to have you with us today. wish you all the best and hope to see you soon. >> thank you. bill: good man. jenna lee coming up next on "happening now." what are you working on? good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. we'll look at 2016 race. with so many predictions out there our guest says the conventional wisdom is often wrong at least at beginning. year. larry sabato joins us live. a tv crew becomes part of the story as their van gets broken into and robbed. tell you about that. a new twist of the
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martha: head's up, folks. college students are being asked to leave hover boards they got for christmas at home. at least 20 universities banned use of motorized scooters on campus saying they're not safe. federal government is investigating some of them after people reported injuries, falling and fires caused by them. i'm proud owner of two hover boards.
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bill: let us know how that works out. baseball hall of fame inducting two new members for class of 2016. cincinnati kid, ken griffey, jr. had so many great years in seattle and catcher mike piazza. griffey's percentage total highest in the history of the hall of fame at 99.3%. who were the three guys that didn't vote for him? jared max from "fox news headlines 24/7". find jared on siriusxm channel 115. why did griffey do so well do you think. >> i think something has to do with the fact that he was a clean player during the steroids era. the fact he had a batting cage in his backyard and work ethic was widely known. 630 home runs. fantastic outfielder. had speed and steal bases. ambassador when he was little boy, ken give, sr.'s son, 99.3%
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of the vote as you pointed out who are three people didn't vote for ken griffey, jr. bill: may think a one ballot guy doesn't deserve it. we'll respect that. look at graphic for our viewers. you mentioned griffey, jr., played a green career, right? never involved in scandal. what we found mark maguire and i believe it was also sammy sosa, they were caught up in this the late '90s. we don't individual but i'll explain to the viewers. their vote total was way down yet again. does that now mean, as you look at the screen here, bottom right-hand corner, maguire, 12%, sosa at 7%, you see clemens didn't get to 50, neither did barry bonds, both in the mid 40s, what does that say about the vote totals and how the hall is going to handle the quote, unquote, steroids era? >> for starters, bill, you see mark ma dwyer, this was his last time on ballot. he will not get another shot.
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barry bond and roger clemens saw up tick around 7 to 8% from last year. you think does time heal all wounds. maybe in this case it does. i don't understand this. if you don't think the guy belongs in the hall of fame because he cheated, why would you vote him in later year? this seems to be case for clemens and barry bonds. maybe one day they get in. what about real cincinnati guy, pete rose. what about shoeless joe jackson. what about jose canseco opened door to major league baseball's serious ped program? bill: good points. 99.3. tough to beat. jared, channel 115, siriusxm. martha: a man in paris with knife and fake, explosives belt is shot dead trying to enter a police station. the incident happening one year to the day after the "charlie hebdo" killings. new details on a possible isis connection next.
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bill: that was a rocking two hourses. martha: busy day. so much to talk about. good to be with you again, bill hemmer. how about we do it again tomorrow? have a good day, everybody. jenna: and we start this hour with a fox news alert. terror on the streets of paris one year to the day after the "charlie hebdo" massacre. i'm jenna lee. jon: and i'm jon scott. paris police take down a man carrying a paper bearing the image of the isis flags. he tried to enter this police station wearing what turned out to be a fake explosives belt, threatening officers with a knife before they shot him dead. the attack exactly a year after islamic extremists stormed the offices of the "charlie hebdo" magazine, murdering 12 people including a police officer. france has been on high alert since isis terrorists launched attacks across paris, killing 130 innocent people back in november.


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