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i'm chris wallace, the with less than 24 i'm chris wallace, with less than 24 hours before the candidates stump in iowa, the two gop front-runners, donald trump and ted cruz. >> your question was you have disagreed. >> today senator cruz is here for round two. >> i know you like to argue about the rules, but we're going to conduct a debate. >> ted cruz from des moines, iowa. then --- >> look at all the cam mass, this is like the academy awards. >> donald trump boycotts the
republican debate, we he get more or les caucuses. >> we raised over $5 million in one day. and our panel analyzes trump's gamble, the democratic dead heat and hillary clinton's e-mail problem. all right now on this special edition of fox news sunday. >> you are looking at the iowa state capitol. it's the only one of five dome capitols in the country. we're broadcasting from inside the capitol building, and if you're wondering that bell is from the uss "iowa." for to the first americans set to start voting for president tonight, the race here in awe
io iowa is still up for grabs. donald trump now leads senator cruz by five points with only four candidates in double digits. check out the the poll from last week, trump and ted krusz are up, marco rubio and ben carson have dropped. three points separating hurl clinton and bernie sanders, that's within the margin of error. we'll talk to two of the democrats in the gop race, donald trump and ted cruz. but first we have fox coverage on this final day of campaigning. let's speak to carl cameron. >> reporter: a stunning 45% in that des moines register poll says they could still change their minds in the republican caucuses tomorrow night.
that has a donald trump and the rest of the republican field leaving nothing for granted. donald trump was joined by jerry falwell jr. to bolster is e -- and downplay his polling lead to get out his vote. >> it all doesn't matter if you don't caucus on monday. the polls don't matter, the only thing that matters is the poll that's going to be taken on monday. >> cruz runs attack ads against rubio while rallying his ground troops and boasting his momentum against trump. >> where we are right now, the race is a dead heat. >> reporter: under fire from trump and rubio, cruz fires back with a double baerl. >> a vote for marco rubio is a vote for a amnesty and a vote for donald trump is a vote for
obama a care. >> rubio feeling momentum casts cruz as rattled. >> it sounds like he's under pressure and maybe not reacting too well to it. which is problematic because presidents are under pressure every day. >> reporter: and the pressure is mounting for the caucus tomorrow night. the record turnout is 122,000 people for the republican caucuses in iowa and that was for the last one in 2012. some say it will be a bigger turnout, perhaps 160,000, but there is snow predicted the for tomorrow night. just a day before the iowa caucuses, hillary clinton is in full damage control, after the state department reveal they can't release some of her private, mails because they contain top secret material. chief white house correspondent ed hnry has the latest on the investigation and how it's affecting the campaign. ed? >> reporter: last may, hillary
clinton had a 41 point lead in that same bloomberg des moines register poll, now that lead as imploded. she is in a dead heat with bernie sanders and an e-mail problem that won't go away, a looming fbi investigation, and now confirming there were at least 22 top secret e-mails on her server. clinton is getting far smaller crowds than sanders, and she's stressing her experience, her close ties to president obama. while sanders is getting obama sized crowds. 3,500 screaming students last night at the university of iowa. the big question is tomorrow night will sanders get obama sized turnout from 2008, listen. >> i'm a progressive that actually likes to make progress, that's what i believe in. what we need is a plan and a commitment, and me, yes, thank you.
>> we began this campaign, we were 3% in the national polls, here in iowa, it is virtually tied. we are going to make american history on monday night. >> the surest sign yet that clinton is in a rough patch is the fact that her saf staff is negotiating with sanders staff with adding up to four more democratic debates, that is a far cry from last year when she was a clear front-runner and was ducking more debates. chris? >> ed, thanks for that. we're joined now by texas senator ted cruz who's been locked in a fierce battle for weeks to win the aiowa caucuses. let's start with that new des moines register poll, six weeks ago you were beating trump, now you're --
>> i'm thrilled to be where we are. we're 36 hours away there the awe iowa caucuses and we're in a dead heat. right now this is all about turnout, this is all about who shows up tomorrow night at 7:00 p.m. and we're focused on if conservatives come out, we will win. what we are seeing is the old reagan coalition coming together. we're seeing evangelicals and conservatives -- >> donald trump is hitting you on several fronts and here's what he had to say in an interview we did with him last night. >> he didn't disclose goldman-sac goldman-sachs, he didn't disclose citibank, he didn't disclose the whole thing where he was born in canada. >> between all that and the fact that you oppose the very popular ethanol mandate here in iowa, are you in danger of losing a
conservative state that would seem perfectly made a for you? and even you have admitted, if trump were to win iowa and new hampshire, as you have put it, he might become unstoppable. >> donald looks very rattled now, a month ago, he was singing my praises. >> but you were singing his praises. >> i still am singing his praises. he knows this loan issue is completely nonsense. but for someone who owes hundreds of millions of dollars, if not billions of dollars to attack heidi and me because we spent our life savings into a run for senate. >> what do you mean he owes? >> if you look at hiss financial disclosure, he owes at least $40
million right now. and by the way, when heidi and i take loans, we pay them back. donald's declared bankruptcy four times, for him the to sit there owing hundreds of millions, billions, who knows, for him to criticize heidi and i putting our life savings into campaigns, especially because the loans were publicly disclosed at the time. the entire issue that donald has seized upon is that i filed with the fcc. donald is engaging in daily insults, i'm not going to respond in kind. i haven't insulted him, but -- >> but you say he owes millions of dollars. >> that's a fact. he said that i'm corrupt, i'm owned by the banks, he called me a canadian anchor baby. he's entitled to do that,
there's a reason he's engaging in personal insults, he doesn't want to talk about the issues, he doesn't want to talk about substance, it's the same reason he skipped the iowa debate. >> we have an interview that had last night and we have that same clip. >> let's not just have the insults, let's actually look at the record. for example, on obama care, donald trump supports expanding obama care to make it full on social medicine just like bernie sanders, and if donald trump is elected president, the federal government will be involved in every one of our health care. that is his position right now, it is identical to hillary clinton. >> i want to drill down into cruz care, because there's a statement you made about obama care that has gotten a lot of attention since the debate, here it is. >> we have seen now in six years
of obama care is that it is a job killer. millions of people have been forced into part-time work, have lost their jobs, have lost their doctors, have soon their premiums skyrocket. >> but senator, the fact checkers say you're wrong. since that law went into effect, the unemployment rate fell from 9.9% to 5%. and 13 million jobs were created. and 16.3 million who were previously uncovered now from coverage now. but more people have jobs and health insurance than they did before obama care. >> chris, the media fact checkers are not fair and impartial. they are liberal editorial journalists and they have made it their mission -- >> there's certainly no question that more people have jobs and more people have health insurance. >> number one we have to the lowest percentage of americans working today than any year since 1977, that's the fact.
>> but there's been 13 million jobs created. that's a fact. >> from 2008 until day, we have seen -- chris, don't interrupt me when i'm giving an answer. >> a that's changing the subject. 13 million new jobs have been created. >> and that is an historically slow rate of job creation, if you look at what has occurred in any previous year. obama is the first president to -- millions of people in this country are hurting. and one of the problems, you've got to the washington elite. the rich have gotten richer under barack obama. the top 1% are earning a higher pictures of our income since 2008 and more people are hurting. one of the things when i go home, i have small business rounds, i have them share what
you're thinking about, share what you're praying about. and over half of them didn't -- millions of americans have lost their jobs and people have been forced into part-time work, or have lost their health care, have lost their doctors or have seen their premiums skyrocket. >> what you would do when you are repeal obama care, how you would replace it. this is what you listed in the debate. sell health insurance across state lines, expand health savings accounts, make insurance portable so you can take it with you when you switch jobs, conservative think thetanings, these are all good ideas, but they're not going to give people who are uninsured now health care. >> the biggest barrier to insurance is cost. when you ask people why they don't have health insurance,
they say they can't afford it. to allow health insurance to be sold across state lines would drive down the cost and expand the availability of low cost catastrophic coverage. >> the national center for policy analysis, certainly not a left wing group, have both said thata kind of selling insurance across state lines would have minimal effect in expanding access. >> if you want more people to have choices, have you more choices and lower costs. if you want fewer people to have health coverage, you have higher costs. under obama care, the average family's premiums would drop $2,500. in fact the average families premiums have riszen $3,000. if you're a single mom, struggling to take kerry of your
kids, that's real money that you can't provide for your family. this law is a disaster. people are hurting. as i travel the country, everywhere i go, i talk to people. we had an event friday night. >> we're running out of time. i just want to ask you two more equestions. nobody doubts there are problems with obama care, i just wanted to explore those issues with you. one thing that struck me in the debate is that the other candidates disagreed with are you sharply, but it wasn't just about policies, it was more than that. take a look. >> what is particularly insulting, though, is he is the king of saying, oh, you're for amnesty, everybody's for amnesty except for ted cruz. >> this is the lie that his campaign is has touched upon. he's the most conservative guy and everyone else is a rain rhino. the truth is, ted, you've been saying anything you can to get votes. >> that's not political
discourse, that seems perm. >> six weeks ago every candidate in the republican field was attacking donald trump. today they're attacking me. part of the reason donald skipped that debate, part of the reason he was afraid to stand before the men and women of iowa, he didn't want that scrutiny, so naturally everybody else was shooting at me. that's fine, that's their progress tiff. i'm not going to respond in kind when people engage in those attacks. i will talk about substance. on the issue of am thenesty, ma rubio advocates citizenship for everyone here illegal i . even am thesity for criminals who are here illegally. marco has said before he went on spanish television, that he would not are vote president obama's executive order for amnesty .
if i am president, i will rescind every one of president obama's illegal executive orders on day one. >> we have a minute left. finally you and i had a couple of are run ins in the debate and one of them was about whether or not you qualified for a 30 seconds response. >> it's not my question you get a chance to respond to, it's his answer. you don't get 30 seconds to respond to me. >> your question was that you disagree -- it's opening night. >> i know you like to argue about the rules, but we're going to conduct the debate. >> a number of observers thought that you sort of threw yourself off talking about the -- you have 30 seconds to respond, sir? >> i was surprised you didn't let me respond there, that was your prerogative.
i'm happy to sunday to whatever you like. >> but the general question as to whether or not sometimes you get can down into the rules, as opposed to --- >> i'm not interested in a rules debate. what i'm interested in is 36 hours from now the men and women of iowa are going to caucus. friday night we were in wilton, iowa, there's 2,800 people who live in wilton, iowa, we had over 700 people come out to our event, a third nearly of the town came out. we're seeing that every day. and this race is a simple choice, a vote for marco rubio is a vote for amnesty. and a vote for donald trump is a vote for obama care. the reason americans are uniting around my campaign is that i'm the only candidate who has been a fiscal conservative, a social conservative, a national security conservative and the stakes are too high for us to roll the dice and take a risk. >> senator cruz, thank you,
thanks for your time. i know you're awfully busy in this final day, we'll see how the world turns tomorrow night. >> i look forward to it. up next, donald trump in his firstal interview since he boycotted the republican debate. feel secure in your dentures... feel free to be yourself all day. just switch from denture paste to sea-bond denture adhesive seals. holds stronger than the leading paste all day... without the ooze. feel secure. be yourself. with stronger, clean sea-bond.
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over the des moines river. the question of whether donald trump would or would not attend the fox news debate, was a big gamble just before the caucuses. last night we spoke to trump for his first fox interview since the debate. he was on the road at a campaign event in davenport. mr. trump, welcome back to fox news sunday. i want to start with that new iowa poll, three weeks ago you were trailing ted cruz by three points, now you're leading by 5 points, i guess the question for you is how come? >> we had a great week, maybe even a great couple of weeks in iowa. i have a fantastic relationship with the people of awe iowa, the evangelicals and the people of
awe iowa. we have done a lot of work and have gotten to know a lot more people. but some very special things happened over to the last two weeks. >> 29% of people in the polls say they disapprove of your decision to skip the debate. what do you want to say to voters in these final hours before the caucuses who may feel that you snubbed them by not showing up at the one debate to be held here in iowa? >> you love fox and so do i and we get along great. but what happened is they put out a press release that was very nasty and it was taunting. >> i don't want to get into that. i'm just saying, what do you want to say voters who feel that you smnubbed them? >> i have to say that you have to stick up for your rights, you can't let people do that to you. just like if i was running the
country, i would stick up for the country. i had a tremendous event, a tremendous overflow crowd and for the president vets we raised $6 million. it was a great thing, it was a great decision and we'll do it again sometime, chris. >> okay. ted cruz, who i suspect you're familiar with, says the real reason that you skipped the debate is that you want to hide your liberal record from voters. here's mr. cruz. >> he doesn't want to debate cronyism, because donald supported president obama's t.a.r.p. bail out of the big wall street banks, donald supported president obama's stimulus plan. >> senator cruz says mr. trump that you're trying to hide your support for the bailout and the stimulus, you're trying to hide your record from voters. >> chris, i'm not trying to hide anything, i was a businessman, i had many different feelings about many different things.
and in business, you have flexibility. you can do many things, many different ways. what i am very sure of is that senator cruz has hid the fact that he had major loans from citibank and goldman-sachs that he didn't put on his financial addition loez your form. i wasn't in politics when i was a businessman, my views didn't matter, i wasn't a politician, for the last few months i've been a approximately politician. but he's got a situation where he didn't disclose goldman-sa s goldman-sachs, he didn't disclose citibank on his personal financial disclosure thing. he didn't disclose the whole thing that he was born the in canada, which probably makes it he's not even able to run. and he said he didn't even know he was a citizen of canada until 15 months ago. here's a couple of things, he didn't know he was a citizen of canada? give me a break, chris. >> you talked earlier about the
veterans event you held during the the bait and that you're proud of it. understandably so, you raised $6 million including a million dollars out of your own possibility. but "forbes" magazine looked at your record of supporting veterans groups over the years, and they found that from 2009 to 2015, the trump foundation donated $57,000 to groups helping veterans, but over the years, they say you gave at least twice that, 100,000 to $250,000 to of all things, the clinton foundation. >> what i have done is i have given a lot of different events for the veterans. we have -- i can get you a les of all of the events i have given in palm beach, florida and different hotels i have for the have the trans, i have opened up my a houses and in a kl of cases my buildings. but i can give you that list.
i did give to the clinton foundation, what i didn't know is that they would be using it for private aircraft and the clinton foundation was helping with haiti and lots of other things, so i thought it would be a good thing. but again i was a businessman and it was my obligation to get along with everybody, including the clintons and to the republicans and conservatives, as a businessman i had an obligation to do that, chris. >> we were talking about your support among the various groups here in iowa, 15% of republican caucusgoers identify themselves as evangelicals and you're doing very well with social conservatives. i know that you're cam paning today with jerry fallwell jr., the president of liberty university who endorsed you. and 52% of white evangelicals say that you would be a good or great president. and you don't fit the evang
evangelical social conservative profile and so why do you think you're doing so well with that group? >> i'm more honored when i hear that statistic what when i hear that i'm winning the poll by a pretty good number. and a few weeks ago i was down in this poll. but i think i may be more honored by winning among the evangelicals because i have just had a great relationship. when you have jerry fallwell jr. endorse me, that was a very big turning point. i went to liberty university, gave a speech, we set the all-time record for attendance, i can just tell you, there's something very special, as you know, i'm christian, i'm presbyterian, but there's been something very special with the evan swe ev evangelicals and my relationship with them. so i'm very happy about it. but it's been the support of
robert and jeffrey and many other pastors, we have had tremendous support from ministers, pastor and from christians generally and from evangelicals, so i'm very happy about it. >> let's take one issue, you say now that the supreme court has ruled that same-sex marriage is the law of the land and that any politician who talks with about wanting to amend the constitution is just playing politics? are you saying it's time the to move on? >> no, i'm saying this, it has been ruled upon, it has been there. if i'm a ---if i'm elected, i would be very strong in putting certain judges on the bench that i think maybe could change things. they got a long way to go. at some point we have to get back down to business. and there's no question about it. and most people feel that way. they have ruled on it. i wish it would have been done by the state. i don't agree with the supreme
court, it should be a state's right issue, and that's the way. the not the way they did it. this was a very surprising ruling. but i would have much preferred that they rule at a state level and allowed states to make a those rules themselves. >> are you saying that off you become president, you might try to a point justices to overrule the decision on same-sex marriage? >> i would strongly consider that, yes. >> finally, you were campaigning with your daughter ivanca, who's very pregnant, i think eight months pregnant, and you had a suggestion for how she could help the campaign, here it ivan if you had your baby in iowa. >> don't you think it would be
better for her to have her baby in a state that has more delegates? >> that was t---iowa would be a great place for her to have a baby and frankly so would new hampshire and so would south carolina. but they would all be great places for her to have her baby, she's a great person and hopefully it's going to be a healthy baby. >> too bad she's not having triplets. we'll watch what happens on monday night and we'll seau in new hampshire. up next, a special iowa sunday panel including the state's governor, terry br branstat. plus what would you like to ask the panel about how trump's debate boycott will sit with iowa voters.
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ted cruz is my friend and he's decided to run a very ted cruz has been my friend, he's decided to run a very -- >> promising to lead the fight against amnesty, marco chose instead the to side with barack obama. >> marco rubio and ted cruz getting in a few more jabs in the hours before the iowa caucuses. it's time for our special iowa caucus sunday group. we're honored the to have iowa's governor terry branstat, the longest serving governor in american history. kathy, you have been covering iowa politics for 30 years or so.
put together the new iowa poll from your paper, the des moines register, what you're seeing on the ground, where do you get a sense of the republican side things are headed tomorrow night? >> first of all, i think that that we see donald trump with a decent lead going into the iowa caucuses, a 5% lead is usually a pretty good indication. however, ted cruz really has a lot going for him in this poll. including the people who are most likely to turn out, the very conservative voters, evangelicals, we know that off there's a blizzard, they're going to shovel their way to the caucus. >> governor branstat, you have made it very clear, you're not endorsing anybody, but you kind of disendorsed somebody because you thought it would be a big mistake for iowa to support ted cruz because of his up
assumption of the ethanol mandate, you have had some nice things to say about donald trump about effective leadership and making america great again. so are you saying go with trump? >> what i'm saying is we have got a lot of great an dats, most of them lead ethanol. and cruz's voting record has been against ethanol, farm income is important. i'm the governor of iowa, i trust iowa voters, i trust my iowa cauc voters, they have ele month me very many times. but cruz's record has been against renewable fuels.
iowa leads the nation in ethanol production. we're the leader in wind energy, we just saw the wind energy tax credit extended, cruz is opposed to that. those are thousands of jobs in our state. people making wind blades and turbines and towers and we want to protect those jobs and we want to continue to grow the iowa economy. >> there are a couple of big stories going into tomorrow night, one is obviously who is going to win, and it seems it's likely to be one of those front runners, trump or krz, and marco rubio, is he a strong thursday or does he even finish third, how much can this result, these iowa caucuses going to reshape the republican this is. >> unless some of these candidates have done so poorly,
they're not going to be able to continue because you simply have to have money to continue. this is the way it's always been. and i would say this, by the way, about the trump support es, they don't particularly fit the proapproximate file of your iowa caucusgoer. but they are the most intense people i have ever dealt with, i see them all the time on twitter. they don't care for any criticism of him. my sense they will turn out. some of them may go to the wrong place, but i think they're going to be out in force, so i don't think there should be a low expectation of the trump supporters. >> a it's different from a primary, you have to show up at a school gym or a church basement, and you have to spend a cull of hours standing up for your person. we have asked you for equestions
from the panel. we got this on face book from mel van, he writes, i was disappointed in donald and think it could hurt him in iowa. do you agree? how do you answer, mel, and do you think trump's deassumption to stay out of the debate can hurt him in the caucuses? >> you would think it would, but it seems to be a no harm, no foul outcome. he clearly did very, very well in the very predictive, historically predictive poll. and within that poll are findings that really don't seem to indicate at all that people are penalizing him for having skipped and at the same time, the ratings for the debate were high. it's sort of seems to have neutralized on with both sides. >> governor, your sense, does the debate boycott hurt trmp, is it something that's going to affect votes? >> i certainly wouldn't advise anybody to skip a fox debate right before the election.
but the a fact that he had an event for veterans, they had a a huge turnout for that. he's a very unconventional candidate and he has done a lot of things that we thought would hurt him. it doesn't seem to have. i guess we'll find out on monday night. i just don't know. >> pat, the des moines register poll is interesting. basically almost 80% of voters either say they approved of the decision to skip or they just didn't care. but there was about 29% who said it did bother them. and 29% could with be a factor in a close race. >> but 29% said that it bothered them and 25% they said didn't care. so that's 4% difference on caucus night. maybe if the debate were last night, it would be right on the
top of people's thinking, but the fact that ted cruz was there and was expose to a lot of attacks. so i think overall, it's good for donald trump. >> panel, we have to take a break here, but when we come back, we'll take a look at the democratic race in iowa as the e-mail scandal steals the headlines. ♪ be good.
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right nasty in these final days before the iowa caucuses. incidentally, if you wonder why we never have the democratic candidates on, here's the answer. we invite hillary clinton and bernie sanders every week, and every week, they turn us down. the sanders camp responds politely, and the clinton campaign doesn't even respond. clinton shows a 3 point lead over sanders, your sense of things of where things are headed tomorrow night? >> 3 points, enough ahead, it looks as though unless something really strange happens with turnout or weather that she will just squeak by, that appears to be the most likely outcome. just squeaking by is certainly
not where she was here only two months ago, certainly not where she wants to be, the sanders campaign is already claiming momentum, the des moines registeral poll and presuming that he does very, very well here, just not with well enough to beat her, they will continue to claim that momentum going into new hampshire. >> first i want to ask you, governor, the breaking news on the democratic side has been the fact that the obama administration announced that they can't release dozens of pages of clinton private e-mails because they are too sensitive. here is administration spokesman don kirk. >> nine in four, found in 22 documents represents 37 pages, the documents are being upgraded a at the request of the defense department because they contain sensitive information. >> governor, i know you're not
following this sbntity, but your sense of the e-mail scandal. >> i don't think it sits very well. even among democrats, a lot of people really question here integrity, her tess and i think in the general election, it could with be a big issue if she ends being the democratic nominee. she doesn't have a lot of people that believe or trust her. they believe that she and her husband have always thought they were above the law and they don't have to abide the rules that the rest of us have to. i think it's a problem. >> kathy, you heard what ann just said, this isn't a prediction, but just her read right,is that clinton just squeaks by, based on the latest poll, the ground game, the size of the crowd, what is your prediction of what happens in the -- clinton wouldn't get beat
by a charismatic barack obama by by a 74-year-old socialist. >> there are parallels to 2008 because bernie sanders has a similar coalition supporting him like we're not seeing a huchblg service, generally speaking, a really big turn out. we're not seeing that sort of build to a record turnout. that's going to change in a very short period of time. >> there's one number in that iowa poll that would give you a sense of why bernie sanders is doing as well as he is. and why he just might have a
trip with a pair of systemary. . 67% of democrats said that the system is rigged. only, you know, some tiny number said that it is fair. that is the soul of bernie sanders' message. that the capitalist system is rigged and the billionaire class is a bunch of pirates and the little guy is getting screwed. that sentiment, that strong, i think accounts in large measure for his success. >> one interesting point about that, that characterizes donald trump's supporters more than anything else. all republicans demographics say the system is working fine except for donald trump supporters. >> brit, i just want to go, big picture, step back and give us a 30,000 front view of this. clinton/sanders, the fbi investigation and there were big revelations this week about these e-mails that are too secret to even be released at
all. the possibility that a new mainstream big name democrat could still get in. what's the possibility this race gets up-ended? >> if something that happens that makes us think she's seriously likely to be indicted or could be indicted, and who knows what would happen on the democratic side. there are lots of variables out there. if bernie sanders does respectably well, even if he doesn't win, moves on to new hampshire with a huge lead, if he wins there, that could be huge headlines. that could shake up the race as it heads south. it's supposed to be a great fire wall for clinton in the south. i'm not sure that's true. there's a lot of variables on the democratic side that will unfold as we go forward here. >> anne, i cut you off. >> i was just going to say, that whole economic populism point that the deck is stacked and things are rigged against the little guy is a theme that hillary clinton has tried to strike and essentially co-oped
first from elizabeth warren and then bernie sanders. >> but it hasn't taken. >> it's an applause line in the room and it certainly resonates in the moment. but people consistently in this poll and others name sanders as the person that speaks to them on this point. >> in brooklyn, where the clinton campaign headquarters is based, they say, look, even if sanders wins iowa, even if sandewins new hampshire, they have this fire wall when we go down south. do they really believe that? >> they believe it but they don't want to test it. who would? clearly, statistically, she's got a lot of things going for her. in south carolina, nevada, too, which vote next. and then the southern states, she's way ahead of him. that could change.
>> we have about 30 seconds left. i know they play it down publicly, but behind the scenes, anne, your best of how worried they really are about this fbi investigation? >> worried. because it's a giant unknown. i mean, no one within the clinton organization can absolutely know for sure where this is going. and that's the last thing you want, is a giant unknown hanging over you. >> thank you, all. it's been a pleasure talking with you. we'll see you next week in new hampshire, except i assume governor branstad, you have better things to do with your time. >> i'll be right here in iowa working for people of the state. >> you're always welcome. it's an open invitation. up next, in a campaign for the ages, this may have been the wildest week yet. we go on the trail as "fox news sunday" continues from des moines. when i went on to ancestry, i just put in the name of my parents and my grandparents.
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the view from above des moines with a good look at the polk county courthouse. probably don't want to end up there. just think about this week, a presidential debate, the front-runner boycotts, and serious new allegations against the top candidate in the other race. it may have been the strangest week yet on the trail. >> most likely i won't be doing the debate. >> if she asks him mean questions, i mean, his hair might stand on end. >> when you were governor -- >> i am governor. what do you mean, when i was? >> welcome to the seventh republican presidential debate. >> let me say i'm a maniac. now that we've gotten the donald trump portion out of the way day >> look at all the cameras like the academy awards. this is like the academy awards. we're actually told we have more cameras than they do by quite a bit. >> marco made the choice to go
the direction of the major donors to support amnesty because he thought it was politically advantageous. >> you helped design george w. bush's immigration policy. then in the committee you said, i want to bring people out of the shadows. now you want to trump trump on immigration. >> last night was a lot of fun. i enjoy getting up on that stage. >> next cycle i'm told lady gaga is going to run. >> i don't know who is more dangerous to the country, donald trump or bernie sanders. >> my opponent is not in iowa tonight. she is raising money from a philadelphia investment firm. >> stand up for me on monday night and if you do, i will stand up and fight for you for the next four years! >> hi, there. how are you? >> come on! you got to take it! >> ted cruz is an anchor baby in canada. but canada doesn't accept anchor
babies. >> donald trump thought i was the nicest guy on earth. now i wake up every day and take up twitter to see the latest insults. >> i have a fire problem. well, we may have a bigger story than the politics by the time this is over. >> it is incredible. >> yes, there was one more surprise when a fire alarm went off in the middle of our interview with donald trump. all of this and we still haven't gotten to the first votes. but all that changes tomorrow night. be sure to tune into fox news channel at 6:00 p.m. eastern for full coverage of the iowa caucuses. by the way, karl rove, joe triptri trippi and i will reunite as the kam point cowboys give you an early read when the first results start coming in from key precincts. that's it for today.
have a great week and we'll see you next "fox news sunday" live manchester, new hampshire. i am megyn kelly. this is the kelly files live from the beautiful state capitol of des moines. >> welcome to "hannity." tonight the iowa caucuses are less than 24-hours away. the final poll before they pick their candidate shows it will be a tight race for both political parties. on the republican side donald trump in front with 28 percent. ted cruz is close behind 23 percent. marco rubio third with 15 percent. they are followed by carlson, paul and christie. hillary clinton leads bernie sanders 45 to 42 percent. here with reaction from the weekly standard steve haze the editor in chief of mraur raw inge gram.