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awesome. >> brian, i wish you were here. >> i know. the first chance to really meet tim. it would have been fantastic. i have to thank samantha and matt for doing a great job. steve, next time you're on the road it's you in new hampshire. >> i know. a week from today. >> bye, everybody. bill: here we go. iowa is in the history books. ted cruz pulling off the upset over donald trump. thanks for the great hospitality. what a week, what a story. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to america's newsroom. martha: it was great to be on the ground and feel the pulse of what was there. good morning, i'm martha maccallum. for senator ted cruz it was a
big night. he called it a victory for the grassroots in iowa. his ground game proved to be the real deal. trump said second place, not so bad. >> iowa sent notice the republican nominee and the next president of the united states will not be chosen by the media. will not be chosen by the washington establishment. will not be chosen by the lobbyists. will be chosen by the most incredible powerful force where all sovereignty resides in our nation by we the people, the american people. >> june 16 when we started this journey, there were 17
candidates. i was told by everybody, do not go to iowa. you could never finish then the top 10. but i said i have friends in iowa, i know a lot of people in iowa. i think they will like me. they said don't do it. i said i have to do it. we finished second and i'm really honored. and i want to congratulations ted and all of the incredible candidates. >> for months they told us we had no chance. they told us because we offered too much optimism in a time of anger we mad no chance. they told us because we didn't have the right endorsements we had no chance. they told me i had to wait my turn. >> this is your turn.
>> after 7 years of barack obama, we are not waiting any longer to take our country back. martha: they were fired up. the rest of the field failed to break double digits. >> fox news is not calling this race. clinton's camp claiming victory after a 50-50 split with bernie sanders. officials in iowa calling it the closest democratic race in iowa history. >> if i think about what happened tonight, i think the people of iowa sent a profound message to the political establishment, to the economic establishment, and by the way, to the media establishment. >> as i stands here tonight, breathing a big sigh of relief, thank you, iowa, i will keep
standing up for you, i will keep fighting for you. i will always work to achieve the america that i believe in where the promise of that dream that we hold out to our children and grandchildren never fades. but inspired generations to come. martha: shannon, what do we know about where things stands in this incredibly close clinton-sanders race? >> as you all said, the democratic party is saying it's the closest in history. they are not officially calling it. 2.28 delegates are to be decided. so it's razor thin. hillary clinton has claimed victory but it's not in the books yet.
bernie sanders, the senator from vermont has arrived there already. he's sounding very positive. >> we just got in from iowa. and now [inaudible] i think our vision for america [inaudible] reporter: recent polling there, bernie sanders was up solidly by double digits so it will be a tough battle for mrs. clinton going into that election next. martha: the gop candidates already on the ground there as well. we have seen what a difference one week can make in these races. they are not letting any grass grow under their feet.
reporter: the ground game is so important. but what we saw from senator ted cruz is masses of volunteers. we talked about a dorm-style where many of them were living. >> the same thing we did in iowa is where we are doing in new hampshire and all across the country. we are answering the questions of the men and women in new hampshire. >> he's down in recent polling by double digits behind donald trump. marco rubio finishing in a solid third place. i was pat one of the large caucus sites where he showed up in person. he feels good about what happened in iowa and how it sets
him up going forward. >> the best chance to take our message to people who haven't voted for us in the past and convince them that conservatism is better for them and better for america. we do those two things, we turn america around. i think more people started to realize that as we got closer to voting day. that gives us momentum coming into new hampshire. reporter: new hampshire is a much different voting base. it could be a totally different base. martha: a week to go between now and then. bill: rich, you say we need to see what happens to trump's lead. >> usually when you suffer an
unexpected loss like he did in iowa you will take a downdraft in new hampshire. he has a big dousing work with, about a 20% lead in the polling average. new hampshire is a must-win for him. it's more socially moderate. more independents vote there. if he doesn't win in new hampshire after having this big lead. bill: it would appear he's set up better in iowa than new hampshire. >> he's going to go to new hampshire. he hopes to overperform with maybe a second. but new hampshire usually doesn't reward the winners of iowa. bill: marco rubio, do you think if he had one more day he could have won? >> the trajectory was to
overtake donald trump. i'm not sure he could have beaten ted cruz because cruz's ground game was all it was cracked up to be. if he does you begin to see a good case for those guys, temperature cruz, kasich, christie dropping out. the chairman of the republican party in iowa was downright giddy. that's a blowout number. that's one of these data points you pick? the back of your head and think whether this is an indicator of voter interest and thousands am on the republican side. how do you see it? >> it is. you look at 2008. the fact that the democratic turnout and the democratic caucuses is so much higher. this year is different.
republicans are excited. i have not been a fan of donald trump but he played into this excitement and that's a good thing. bill: i don't know what happened whether it's bernie sanders or hillary clinton. but you believe bernie sanders has to run up the score in new hampshire next tuesday. >> if he had a win in iowa and a crushing victory in new hampshire next week. then there would be some chance he would shake loose hillary clinton's hold on minority voters and this race might look different. it will be tough to do that but he will go for the big win in new hampshire. some polls had him leading in the 2-1. martha: there is no rest for the weary. all of the candidate have now made it to new hampshire. a couple of them are still making their way there this
morning. here is video from today. this is new jersey governor chris christie at a groundhog's day in nashua where it's reported that winter is over, really. but he didn't have a great night. he came in with 2 per are of the vote despite hard work done on the ground. he hopes to be in a better position in new hampshire where he has literally spent the majority of his time as he's running for president and the nomination. it will be fascinating to see the differential between new hampshire voters and iowa voters. they will appeal to them on ought grounds where they live. bill: you say winter's over? apparently we have a crew from fox on the runway in des moines trying to fly out. the storm hit. janice dean. martha: we have a lot coming up
this morning as we go through the picture. ted cruz wins iowa. marco rubio cape in third place. a lot of questions about where the momentum is in this race. bill: marco rubio pulling off a strong third place showing almost taking out donald trump. what did this mean for him? live from new york today on america's newsroom. >> iowa, thank you so much. we'll never forget you. we'll see you soon again. and new hampshire, we'll see you in the morning. thank you, god bless you.
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momentum in new hampshire next tuesday. >> now the time has come for to us take our place and do what we must. and when i'm elected president of these great united states we'll do our part. bill: where i this race today? monica crowley, monica, where is this race as you size it up? ted cruz ran against the powerful ethanol lobby and won. as far as donald trump it's quite an incredible feat for someone who is not a professional politician to do this well.
marco rubio exceeded expectations an does have momentum. fir he has to overcome ted cruz's momentum which is quite substantial, and also donald trump who is ahead by 20 point. i expect his lead to hold. so we have to overcome those challenges. marco rubio's challenges is to consolidate the donor class going forward. governor bush, kasich, christie. if he can get the establishment to coalesce behind hip, he could be quite formidable. bill: brad, where do you think the ray is now for the democrats? >> i think it what you a bad night for the republican establishment. the outsiders got over 60% of
the vote. marco rubio gets a participation trophy. he finished third. third place is not going to wi you the nomination. he's hovering 10% in new hampshire. i think it was a two-person race going into iowa and a two-person race going out of iowa. bill: nbc called the race, bernie sanders, hillary clinton pretty much 50-50. was this an easier state for hip to find victory? >> i think the challenge for mrs. clinton is she has been a national figure for 25-30 years. the fact that bernie sanders fought her to a draw is astonishing.
she was leading in the by 50 point and today it's too close to call at a 50-50 split. mrs. clinton is trailing by something like 50 point. she just had a political near-death experience which was not predicted by anybody. i think it put a real scare into this campaign. it puts blood in the water. with this looming f.b.i. investigation hanging over her head like the sword of damocles, i think others might think it's not too late to get in. bill: she came on stage without any notification to the media then they left quickly. should she have blown bernie sanders out? >> gosh no, not at all. fir of all, she has won iowa,
there are not enough delegates at stake for hip to overcome her. bernie sanders need to run up numbers with white voter. the electorate in iowa is 90% white. he goes to new hampshire where he's regarded as the third senator from the state of new hampshire. he's from neighboring vermont. so obviously he will enjoy some lead there. but i think hillary clinton is well positioned in the later state. she is the first woman to win an iowa caucus. bill: the expectations game, here we go. buckle up. martha: with iowa at their back, many republican candidate wage and say hello, new hampshire. what we can expect as republicans focus on the granite state.
is next tuesday evening. good morning, molly. >> good morning. this is it. the granite state. this writes all eyes are cast as the candidates work to make their way from iowa to the state of new hampshire. ted cruz hits the ground at a town hall and swings on to south carolina later on. second place finisher donald trump hosting a rally and in third place with a strong finish that beat expectations. several republican candidates are already on the ground choosing to forego the caucus in iowa and focus there efforts in new hampshire. they are john kasich, chris christie and jeb bush who says happen * you have as a fresh
start. >> new hampshire is a fresh start. last night i had a town hall meeting with 300 people and they seemed to respond to that message. reporter: the republicans are coming in, and the democrats also arriving today. martha: let's talk about that side of the equation it's a smaller field with martin o'malley withdrawing from the race, now down to two. reporter: secretary hillary clinton and bernie sanders are wheels down very early this morning finishing that super tight finish. sanders has a rally today. he was greeted by enthusiastic supporters when he hit the ground very early this morning.
>> [inaudible] reporter: new hampshire voters are so engaged in this process. it will be fascinating to see how it unfolds. bill: there is a good battle between sanders and clinton. what does it mean for a fight on the democratic side in that is next as we roll on the morning after iowa. seizing opportunity. and i'd like to... cut. so i'm gonna take this opportunity to direct. thank you, we'll call you. evening, film noir, smoke, atmosphere... bob... you're a young farmhand and e*trade is your cow.
many of you to make the case for the kind of future we want for democratic party and the united states of america. martha: hillary clinton when she came out to speak. she surprised everyone. they were waiting. her daughter chelsea and her husband bill clinton were also supposed to speak. but it was only hillary who took the podium in the closest democratic caucus in history. 49.9% and 49.5%. a virtual tie. hillary clinton's campaign is saying secretary clinton has clearly won the most national and state delegates in iowa.
very close obviously. is there meaning in the slight difference between these two? >> i don't think so too inch terms of the number of delegates. at the end of the day you need to get 50% and they basically split them right down the middle. many people went to bed hearing it was a virtual tie. in 2012 people thought mitt romney was ahead of rick santorum but it turned out rick santorum beat him. thinking back six months, this guy was back 50 points. very impressive night for him. >> when you look across the polls over the course of the last year. hillary clinton declining month after month after month as he went through this race.
i want to get your reaction. by all accounts people who cost clinton camp say they were stunned by what happened yesterday in iowa. here you have democratic caucus among young voters. sanders got 84% to 14%. late deciders, let's take a look at that one. also it's supposed to be a good possible number for bernie sanders. they pretty much tide the late deciders. people were flipping back and forth between the two in that record. first-time attendees, 59% to clinton's 37%. do we the other on electability? policies of the next president should be the same as obama. 59%. more liberal 33%. that number looks like it would bode well for hillary clinton.
what were people saying as they went into the caucus places last night. >> with late deciders, it's somewhat good news for hillary clinton. there are undecided democrats who have seen hillary clinton on stage for 30 years. they couldn't bring themselves to pull the trigger for bernie sanders. but i do think bernie standard by winning such an overwhelming number of young people, that can help getting a grounds swell. that was the co-links that sent barack obama over the top. bernie sanders was only down 15 points in national polls. i think he could close that gap, especially with a likely win in new hampshire. >> the turnout on the democratic side was not as robust as it could have been.
>> it wasn't -- the democrat's all-time high was 230,000. so you don't have the same excitement you had for barack obama. when you go to the bernie sanders events there is a lot of intensity. it's a different type of intensity. hope and change won the day in 2008. but bernie sanders yelling the american people have a right to be angry. it can take bernie sanders very far in this race. martha: your take on donald trump. clearly for someone who has never been in a political campaign. he had a strong finish last night. >> he did. but he ended up losing. i think it one key number i looked at is either the final des moines register poll, 47% of the electorate would be evangelical christians.
ted cruz won those voters by 10 points. martha: that's a good argument on what ted cruz based his campaign on all along. he claimed in the romney election that the base didn't show up and there were a lot of conservative voters that needed to be fired up.did he prove than iowa? >> this is just republican voters. but the turnout went up 50%. people thought with that big of an electorate you would have a more secular working-class voters for donald trump. the electorate became more evangelical christian as it grew bigger. we'll see how far that takes them in states that don't have as many evangelicals. martha: john were thank you.
bill: it has been a quiet 12 hours for donald trump. we are used to him leading in the late into the night and the morning hours. but that has not happened. how does he beat the seal coming out of iowa. martha: he has a rally in new hampshire. he's clearly in the game there and in first place. we'll see how he fares. bill: ted cruz went old school. all 99 counties. direct contact with voters. caucus-goers leading in the the republican party, scrambling to keep with large crowds. how they managed that. the word on the ground out of des moines as to to won. clinton or sanders? >> cruz is doubling down crediting his attack on donald
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we have a political columnist from the des moines register *. you treated us well it was a midwestern embrace. >> it was a pleasure to have you all. ted cruz to me in hindsight went old school. do you agree with the premise old school still wins in iowa? >> it absolutely still wins. ted cruz was one of the few candidates who completed what we like to call the full grassley. he visited all 99 counties. there is a lot of towns to visit. so that was the retail part of it, the face to face contact. getting out in small towns, meeting face to face with people. cruz also had a traditional get out the vote effort. door knocking. asking neighbors to bring their neighbors.
he was going around before the caucuses saying i want you to vote 10 times, bring 9 people to the caucuses. that works well. some of those new fangled ways aren't working so well like phone calling. they might call for hours and nobody answers their phone any more. people have cell phones and caller i.d. bill: donald trump, you kip the fox debate. friday he had an event in new hampshire, not in iowa. did that have an effect on his result last night? have you been able to say? >> it's possible. it's possible. the "des moines register" poll talked to voters about that debate and it was kind of a wash with the people in the polls. but we know a lot of people turned out in the last couple
days that decided in the last couple days. he was spending time in new hampshire instead of iowa. but i think it had a lot to do with the evangelical support for ted cruz and maybe not so much a vote against donald trump. but enthusiasm for cruz as one of their own. bill: the turnout for republicans unbelievable. how many people predicted that, or did anyone go as highs 182, other than martha maccallum? >> i don't know how many people predicted that exact number. we were looking for probably record turnout because of the sheer number of candidates in the race. candidate are the ones who energize voters, bring new people into the process and drive turnout more than anything else. with that's people and candidate who are bringing new people because -- just because they are
unconventional candidates, that's why republicans had a record turnout and why democrat didn't reach their record of 2008. bill: we talked about your polling. historically it's been pretty good. you missed it on marco rubio. but just about everybody did. on the democratic side, why is this race still too close to call or what has your newspaper done about that now. >> i think that however you look at the polls, they show a sense of popular vote. if you take that 3% for martin o'malley and give to it sanders you pretty much have a tied race. this is something i think the message going forward out of iowa was hillary clinton. she goes down in the history
books as the winner of the iowa caucuses even though i think bernie sanders got the expectations victory. >> they come on stage last night in was no announcement for the media. it appeared they were ready to get on to new hampshire. i think that was evident in what happened last night. thank you for being such a great hostess for all the folk in iowa, thanks. i'm going to come there and buy a farm. martha: donald trump said i like iowa so much i might buy a farm here. in the mean type we'll travel across new hampshire. this is chris christie already back at it this morning. plus there is. >> the showdown in the republican race. ben carson is taking aim at ted cruz.
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it's one nation under god. >> i have to tell you i'm suspended this presidential bid, but i'm not ending this fight because the fight that you and i are engaged in is a tough fight. and i believe the toughness of the fight is the way the hidden god has of telling us there is something worth saving. our country is worth the saving and the american dream is worth saving. martha: anyone who runs for president gives up a lot. both the gentlemen pulled out last night. they addressed their supporters and they suspended their campaign. hike huck we first breaking the news on twitter before he made it official. martin o'malley sent an email to his supporters, then he addressed them at a restaurant in des moines.
there will be more, probably not until after new hampshire. we have been talking about how different the character of new hampshire is after iowa. there are several folks in this race who believe they will do well there. there could be a chance to be a comeback kid like john mccain and others. bill: this is pretty much par for the course, especially when you have this many candidates. dr. ben carson accuse can the cruz campaign of dirty tricks in the closing days of iowa. >> we have seen the tweets that have come out that said that i was suspended my campaign effort and people should be thinking about a second choice. this was before the caucuses were over. that's really a dirty trick. that's the very kind of thing
that irritated me enough to get into this quagmire to see if we can bring some integrity to the process. if you are going into a caucus and you are planning to vote for somebody, then you find out that they suspended their campaign it could have a big effect on what you do. bill: that was last night and this morning on fox and friends. he doubled down and he did not back down. martha: he's had a sunny face throughout this process but he of the clearly peeved. rand paul came in fifth place in iowa. he says the contest is wide open and he's pushing on to new hampshire. >> it's the few, those who will stand up and say we are not trading our liberty, not now, not ever, against all odds, all a little bit of bias here and there.
tonight the liberty movement beat four sitting governors of the establishment. the idea liberty lives on in you and us. we'll continue to fight. tonight is the beginning. liberty will live on. we fight on. thank you for all of your support. march are's hoping to do well there. we'll see if he can stay in this thing. bill: ted cruz in the final four days turned a lot of his attention toward marco r you wonder what sort of impact that had. could rubio have finished better? but that was the strategy on the cruz team. ted cruz the clear wish. done and rubio second and third. but who has the momentum going into new hampshire. we'll analyze that with a terrific line up as our coverage continues right now.
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bill: we are awake and we are fresh. it defeat for donald trump, ted cruz leading, 28% in the final numbers, donald trump 24%, marco rubio in third place, albert formed the polling. razor-thin margin separating hillary clinton and bernie sanders, 49.9 to 49.5. virtual tie. fox news has not called that raise on the democratic side. martha: a lot decided by a calling fled. democrats in iowa calling this one of the closest in iowa democratic history. >> i'm going to tell the millions of americans thought that america was in jeopardy and
we rose up together and said we are going to preserve this nation for our children and grandchildren. >> when i am the nominee we will grow the conservative movement, take our message to the people who are struggling ejected a check, the students living under the burden of student loans, the families struggling to raise their children with the right values, we will take our message to them and we will bring them to our side. when i am the nominee we will unite our parties, grow the party and we will defeat hillary clinton or bernie sanders or whoever they nominate. >> against all odds, against a little bit of bias here and there, tonight the liberty movement beach four sitting governors from the establishment. we are going to fight, tonight is the beginning, liberty will live on, we fight on, thank you.
bill: the snowstorm cam. what is that? >> reporter: good morning. what is next is the three candidates that got 20% support each, ted cruz, donald trump and marco rubio turning their attention to the two democrat left in the race already setting up a final showdown just hours after the first contest ended. >> the democrats here seem to be at a virtual tie. between one candidate who admits he is a socialist and the other candidate who pretends she is not a. >> we will go on to get the republican nomination and we will go on to easily beat hillary or bernie or whoever the hell they throw up there. >> hillary clinton can never be commander in chief because anyone who lives to the families of people who lost their lives
in the service of this country can never be commander-in-chief of the united states. >> reporter: ted cruz was the clear winner but ben carson finished fourth and now complaining about some of the tactics, accusing them of syncing supporters out to caucus sites to tell republicans how to cast ballots that they should not back carson because he was about to drop out. and carson is not dropping out. tony: how significant is bernie sanders think the results were for him? >> reporter: it is big because it shows how many democrats are in iowa and parcel the elsewhere who are going back with this unique message. >> the people of iowa have sent a profound message to the political establishment, the economic establishment and the media establishment.
>> reporter: as for clinton word is the tight race had her aides shell shock on the bus ride to the airport and she is putting at happy face on the close race. >> it is rare that we have the opportunity we do now. to have a real contest of ideas, to really think hard about what the democratic party stands for and what we want the future of our country to look like. >> reporter: martin o'malley's decision to drop out of the democratic race came so quickly that there were some folks at the democratic caucus location we were at who had not left the building when he said sayonara. bill: today marks the day. martha: byron york, chief political correspondent of the washington visitor, good morning to you, good to see you back
there. it is fascinating. we talk so much about turnout and the idea was that the common notion was if it was a big turnout night on the gop side more than 180,000 turnouts, that would signal to anybody donald trump had done it, that was social media a huge rallies to have achieved something we had never seen before in politics but one part of that equation big turn out and didn't get the other. >> didn't happen. ted cruz had a really big turnout operation. we talked about that. it makes the congressional board knocking volunteer operation with a highly sophisticated data operation that kept up with voter preferences, knew how to appeal to each particular voter and when we talk about the trump turnout machine that was invisible it may have been invisible because it didn't exist. i went to a caucus last night and at these caucuss representatives of the campaign
are invited to speak for a few minutes on behalf of their campaign and if they are not there anyone in the audience is invited to speak for a few minutes on behalf of that candidate. there was nobody there when it came to donald trump to speak on his behalf and when i went to trump's event at the sheraton later on i talked to a number of people, from supporters who had been at caucuses and no one from the trump campaign spoke at their caucuses either. martha: they were convinced they could do it without that and when we went to visit headquarters these caucus people were not running into other trump people when they were knocking on doors, they were not there. he came in second, we shouldn't diminish that. is a strong finish in iowa and we see how it serves going forward. looking at the des moines register poll last one we had a 4 iowa, it was wrong, it befores
worth pointing out. then enter estimated marco rubio. >> i was talking about how the poll is accurate. it absolutely was not. i think donald trump underperformed for a couple reasons, one is the ground game we just talked about and 2, i do think voters are finding the seriousness test as voting approach to. a month ago they would tell folks they supported donald trump, they did support him but as the voting got new they thought is this really the right thing to do? should i do this? i think perhaps there was that problem. as far as ted cruz is concerned they underestimate the degree to which ted cruz had data driven operation that really touched on voters and as far as marco rubio is concerned he was at 15 in the des moines register poll finishing eight points, they
missed some clear momentum. martha: pollsters said we don't see evidence of momentum from marco rubio. they were acting like it was just made up. what we were feeling and sensing. in terms of missing the debate, skipping the debate on donald trump's part i want to pull up one of the exit polls we looked at which may reveal some of what people were thinking about that, the question of who shares your values, ted cruz got 38%, clearly that is an evangelical support u.s. seeing, marco rubio got 21% but donald trump on shares my values, 5%. >> really low. he missed an opportunity to make a last case to the people of iowa. the people i talked to last night, people i've talked to before hand, this is a big gamble on donald trump's part and he lost it. just remember this was the only debate held in iowa.
it was held virtually on the eve of the caucuses and everybody was watching in the republican world. voters who were not for together the engaged where engaged 40 or 90 hours before that debate so that spot right hand donald trump didn't show up. "imus in the morning" when he was quieter, more reserved in his speech last night. so far he is not tweeting which is a valid way to look at the trump campaign because that is how he communicates with people. do you read anything into that? >> first of all nobody knew how he was going to perform when he came out having lost the iowa caucuses. was quite gracious in his speech which lasted three minutes, probably a world record for trump brevity. we have not heard from him on twitter. my feeling is he is having to reconsider his approach to this coming in no way of thinking about quitting but clearly needs to match his unconventional appeal to voters with a more
conventional voter contact operation and if he could marry those two he could take advantage of these huge leads that he has in new hampshire and south carolina. martha: interesting to see as a businessman how to fix the problem, there's no doubt and we will see how he does. thank you very much. bill: this is outbreaks down, ted cruz 23, 24, marco rubio at 23, the difference is about 6,000 votes in iowa. the difference between second and third donald trump and marco rubio is 2300 on this. where do the vote come from kids in 99 counties in iowa. i could show you based on color. counties that ted cruz won are in red. the counties that from the won are in green and marco rubio is in yellow. ted cruz's times evangelicals,
strong in the northwestern part of the state where rick santorum did so well in 2012. what you see just below, these are heavily republican counties over here and donald trump won out here. not a ton of vote, pretty good share but not a ton like you will find in des moines and polk county. this is what i find interesting about marco rubio. this is des moines, polk county, marco rubio won, the most populous county and all of iowa. this is dallas go to the west, this is story county, a miss, iowa, where you find iowa state university where bernie sanders is trying to drive up young voters.
marco rubio won that county and also won johnson county in the east and in johnson county you find the university of iowa where bernie sanders did very well. i don't know if there is a correlation between what bernie sanders did and and it equates to what marco rubio did but we will crunch the numbers and try to find a trend. martha: a wild night in iowa. big showing for ted cruz and also donald trump who came in second. ♪ martha: marco rubio surged to a very strong third-place finish, three tickets out of iowa. a fair and balanced debate coming up next. bill: ted cruz calling his win aggressors victory. can he carry the momentum into new hampshire? the are in see chair is here to talk about last night and what
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great enough for my boots were too high. martha: marco rubio celebrating a third-place finish touting his strong showing as an important step toward winning the republican nomination. could marco rubio -- clearly someone to watch in this race, given what happened last night, former mitt romney presidential campaign manager and a political consultant to joe biden. welcome. nice to see you both. it was a strong speech by marco rubio. the reason he is getting so much attention is the des moines poll, he did ten points better than anybody expected him to going into last night. i want to show everybody a little more in case they didn't stay up late of his speech when he came out to talk to supporters.
>> this is no ordinary election, 2016 is not just a choice between 3 to political parties, but it is a referendum. it is a referendum on the identity as a nation and the people. america there are two ways forward for us, we can be greater than we have never been. martha: that is not the option you wants to see. what do you see in what happened last night. >> they don't build a statutes, the front runner nationally and in new hampshire ted cruz deserves credit for pulling victory in iowa. he needed to win their more than a conservative in the race. there is a grouping of candidate in new hampshire bunch that together, ted cruz and john kasich and chris christie, has
an opportunity to emerge as the main challenge to donald trump, he can't expect to maintain this sort of buzz that developed after a iowa if he turns in another third-place finish. martha: overage in new hampshire a different story, voters are very different, they have been paying a bit of attention in recent weeks to jeb bush and john kasich who went to second place in some of the polls we have seen. let's get the gop side and tell us would you think. >> i don't think it will work out well for jeb bush and i don't think it will work out well for john kasich because he doesn't have any money to go on after new hampshire and i think you will also see chris christie drop out after new hampshire and i believe it will come down to the three candidates, marco rubio, ted cruz and donald trump and a lot of the so-called moderate republicans are deluding themselves if they
believe marco rubio is a moderate. he is not. his views are pretty right wing also and that is going to get him into a lot of trouble should he be able to make it to the general election. martha: what do you think about that? >> two different states. iowa is billed for a movement conservative like ted cruz who shares values with evangelical voters. new hampshire is more friendly to the middle of the road republican. they won't punish you for being a moderate on social issues as long as you are strong on guns and pocketbook issues and now of course on immigration. new hampshire also is famously contrarian. they are not going to rubber-stamp anybody's choice. if you come out of iowa as the caucus winners it almost counts against you because these are challenges -- martha: live free or die. you called me matter which does
well for your new england credentials. >> my boston accent. martha: give us some fought on hillary clinton and bernie sanders. >> hillary has a small victory but it is a victory. i disagree with the pundits here. i don't think this is a victory at all for bernie. iowa and new hampshire are tailor-made for bernie in terms of the white vote and after that is a more diverse vote which is better for hillary. for bernie not to win in iowa i think is a big loss for bernie. >> coin tosses are so close and hillary won everyone of them. good to see you. thanks, gentlemen. >> funny how that works. by a lottery ticket. ted cruz won because he went after new york value is donald trump talked-about issues to that or not? here
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together, we're building a better california. martha: ted cruz this is attachment and donald trump's new york values helped him in iowa. from the washington times, the establishment reside. here is the quote now. traveling the country, and not everybody has new york values, values of the elite liberal to did damage to new york, and
hardworking men and women who are fed up with out of touch values of manhattan. can save up state. is ted cruz right, helping him to victory by pointing out this distinction. >> issues on either side of the equation. ted cruz's supporters say a bigger factor in donald trump's decline. his decision to skip the debate, it does not resonate with a lot iowa voters. and based on what positions trump took a long time ago. they took a different look, and he is from new york, based on
what did they trust him is not new york values. bill: the combined for 93% of the vote. two senators among the top five, would you consider in this group, rand paul, donald trump, carson, ted cruz, marco rubio, are they all considered outsiders. is that the scene you are picking up on? >> absolutely. 90%, you have three of those senators each of them in a first term and each of them decedent a republican establishment candidate in primaries in order to win senate seats and donald trump and ben carson have no political experience, never held office, not 90% of the vote in iowa went to people who rightly can claim outsider outside establishment credentials that is stunning. we should also note there's a lot of talk about the turnout and what not.
marco rubio and donald trump, both part of the outsider crew, and they got enough votes than any of the previous caucus they would have easily won caucus with those vote totals. we are talking a couple things we incredible vote turnout. 50% higher than the last two caucuses. a lot of energy there and 90% of that vote went to outside candidates, not a good message for the republican establishment. the panel was right. marco rubio even with republicans looking at him is not an establishment republican. he is very much a movement conservative republican. those movement conservatives had a good night last night. bill: back to the new york values thing, you don't think it was significant for ted cruz, he continues to push that. he will draw distinctions with donald trump on policy, not personality but he ran a
conventional campaign, voter contact, get to the 99 counties, spent a lot of time out there and work in but the data on line. last thought on that to you. >> exactly right. it was very successful, also iowa. mike huckabee did the same thing in 2008 and rick santorum famously did the same in 2012 flushing 99 iowa counties and that is what our them to victory. they went on to win a couple of the states as social conservative candidates but couldn't broaden their support enough to win the nomination. ted cruz has a real challenge, same challenge those guys had to try to broaden himself to a broader base of voters and we will see if he can do that. donald trump remains the leader. bill: back to washington d.c.. 10:30 in new york. martha: as we have been saying after iowa comes new hampshire. we are waiting on an event from jeb bush in the granite state so what about the middle path. can candidates like jeb bush make some noise up there that
could dig him out of the spot airing? >> turn out in iowa was significant for republicans. will that matter? how will that matter this election cycle? talking to the chairman of the rnc up next after this. >> iowa has sent notice that the republican nominee in the next president of the united states will not been chosen by the media.
and voter turnout a big key in this race. more than 180,000 showed up for the republican caucus, up from 122,000, four years ago. and a 49% interests. chairman of the republican national committee is why in washington d.c.. did you portend, did you see that turn out the way it went last night? >> yes. we talked a little bit about it with bret baier and megyn kelly, the turnout was underestimated. bill: did you put a number on it? >> we thought it would be -- we thought it would be above 150,000 so 150 was though original mark we started with and we thought it would be higher than that and obviously it was. we were fairly accurate with the number but the ending was the
enthusiasm gap between republicans and democrats, it has been cleared the whole election cycle we have a lot of drama and intrigue, it has the whole country electrified. the other big thing was ted cruz first hispanic out of iowa for major political party, marco rubio, it -- where is the media on this? that was a big night, it is a long hall. is one stage, everyone understands delegates will choose the nominee and we are off to the races. bill: i know the party line about enthusiasm. can you say based on history when you get at record turnout like use all last night does that carry through nine months from now in november during a
general election? >> it is hard to predict the future but i think if you look at history and eight years of incumbent president from one party to the party you do get sort of lackluster feeling on the ground from the party that has been in power a long time. we got through it in 2008, democrats went through it in 1999, and 2000. history would show we have a natural advantage going into the open race in 2016. it is going to continue. i don't think people are excited about hillary clinton or socialist from vermont. bill: you had a dozen of last night. would you admit it will be a long race for the democrats? will you admit this will be a long race to republicans also?
>> it is clear, the democrats are going to be even more unclear on their side that we are. who would have guessed that six weeks ago, that will show you the weakness of hillary clinton, the fact that a first lady, secretary of state, senator can't put down a gadfly from vermont is a total disaster for hillary clinton. bill: it is early. by iowa is behind you, sanders could win new hampshire but what happens after that? conventional wisdom says she will do well, and other places after that and then it is a different ball game. >> at some point in delegate counts. after march 1st, '16 states or so, you won't say what happened to mrs. a pure tennessee, what
is the delegate count. and things starts slowing down and the good on both sides. bill: will go to new hampshire next. what is the expectation when you come out of iowa, when you have a national story and the eyes of the country are on you, you move to the next contests come as chairman of the party what can you say is your expectation for this contest on the republican side? >> the enthusiasm will continue, there will be a record turnout in new hampshire, it is all good for our party, all the candidates pushing on the grounds, all the data on these voters which we have in the general election and the republican national committee will be more ready than ever before to win an open race for a national vote and we have been
working on this for four years, all of this is good for our part and it will continue it is going to be a lot of fun and it may take a little while but it is ultimately good for our chances. bill: on that point democrats have been whipping you when it comes to technology and voter out reach. based on the software and technology can you say today that republicans, democrats on that? yes or no? >> yes. i know we have. look at the dnc now, practically bankrupt, we are twice as big as they are, we have been doing it for years and have been focusing on the mechanics, lot of boring stuff, the data, the user interface, targeting, that is what we do and whoever wins the
race will get that and we will work together to make sure we are a lot better than them and win in november. bill: the boring stuff matters. see you in new hampshire. martha: the republican field is less crowded, mike huckabee bowling out a race joking with his supporters last night. watch this. >> i am here tonight, it is time to officially suspend the campaign but not because of the votes but because of illness. obviously the voters are sick of me and i need to acknowledge that. neil: martha: and rick santorum anticipating whether he wants to continue saying he will spend a few days talking over with his family before making the final decision. ben carson fuelling speculation about his campaign after jetting
home to florida last night in between island and new hampshire but the carson camp insists he is not down and out, he would get some fresh clothes and redo his suitcase which is the case with many of us so we can relate to that end will be back on the campaign trail again tomorrow. bill: two of us can relate to that. candidates back at it shifting their focus in new hampshire. do any of these have the makings of a come back kid? chris christie first up now says he just might. >> we are now focused ahead. iowa is in the rearview mirror. whatever happens to me is going to happen and we need to focus on what is going to happen in new hampshire. in my business i cbailing me out my i.all the time... i'm not the i.t. guy. i'm the desktop support tech supervisor.
rand paul and jeb bush, couldn't wrap up much of the numbers combined and carly fiorina, john kasich the mic huckabee rounding up rest of the gop pack failing to get 2 percentage points in iowa despite hard work on the ground by carly fiorina and the other two did not have such a strong presence but jeb bush telling fox and friends there is lots of time in this race. it has just begun and everyone can make a come back. >> i don't look back. we have a long hall. after new hampshire south carolina, and the party's nominee, who best can beat hillary clinton and commander in chief and president of the united states. martha: the director for center of politics at the university of virginia, welcome, good to have you, great to see you. just listening to jab, watch
that interview with fox and friends, obviously spent a lot of money, $2,900 per vote is the estimate, $51 million in spending, $14 million in the state of iowa. this has to have donor's scratching their heads. >> yes. if only candidate could cut those checks and send them directly to voters they might get more votes but that is illegal. what jeb bush said is true. america is a country of optimists and there is no group more optimistic than presidential candidates. we probably have our three finalists in ted cruz, donald trump and marco rubio. having said that i think we all ought to resist the temptation to pull the curtain down before more voting takes place. there are 49 states, the district of columbia and six territories to go.
i can agree with that part of indeed is perfectly ok for jeb bush and the other candidates to say i am making my stand in new hampshire or i am making my stand in south carolina a you will see the results there, fine. martha: we have seen a history of people called the comeback kid. bill clinton didn't do on in iowa, went on to new hampshire and was a new story. they have to come into new hampshire saying this is where we spend our time, chris christieing out 25 to 1. and they came up with similar numbers and he believes -- she has to have -- set is john kasich and jeb bush. >> they have certainly invested the time, not just the money but the time in campaigning in new hampshire. the truth is the three leading candidates have got to buckle on their armor.
inevitably ec's other candidates are going to be shooting at them and they won't be shooting blanks and that is particularly true for marco rubio who may have gone the biggest boost even though he finished third in iowa. he is now the target of all these other candidates who might -- if only they can get the front of marco rubio. i think it is going to be a tough week for the three front runners in iowa, the three people who won and iowa. it will be tough for them but i would pick marco rubio has probably receiving the most incoming fire. martha: we are showing this in new hampshire. appealing to folks, and we see george w. bush, in south carolina, i want to turn your attention to it donald trump who came in second and as he said people told him he would never
place in iowa, he was crazy to try to contest iowa and yet he did. he went in and did it the trump way which leaves people wondering how real is donald trump's support out there? another test in new hampshire. what do you think? >> it is true what he said, that iowa was one of the states least open to his message and in the end he placed second and got tens of thousands of votes. there are real people voting for donald trump. this isn't the mirage. on the other hand he has presented himself as the winner. he is ahead everywhere, he is going to win win win and america is going to win win win, well, he lost. chad ginn the image the had been projecting since he announced over the summer. we will let it play out in new hampshire. he must win new hampshire. the runaway front-runner there, if he loses a second state, the second critical state in the
first primary i think he's going to deflate in other places. martha: let's squeeze in one quick thought from donald trump because it is part of his speech and we will say goodbye to larry. >> we will go on to get the republican nomination and we will go on to easily beat hillary or bernie or whoever the hell they throw up there. iowa, we love you, we thank you. i think i might come here and buy a farm. i love it. martha: green acres donald trump style. thank you, see you soon. park avenue, give me park avenue. bill: watch how it shapes up next tuesday in new hampshire. what to look for, that is next.
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martha: it didn't turn out the way anyone thought it would. the fascinating thing to me is everyone fought donald trump looked like he was going to have a very strong night. we started seeing reports that there were lines wrapped around and they running out of ballots, maybe this is the story but it was spread across. people are passionate about this election and feel strongly about the people they are supporting the >> keeping a close eye on these counties, interesting if you
going to the numbers, how many counties reflect the split between ted cruz, marco rubio and donald trump. the other thing that surprised me is the technology, not 100%, but the technology worked. this new apps, new software, gave the all the apps to 3200 precinct captains, a website went down a couple times on the republican side but not the apps. that may take us in a whole new area. >> it may bid they decided six via:tocoin toss after all that technology. bill: we're stepping into a whole new area. martha: well done explaining that to all of us. it was really good. bill: clear as des moines
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bill: one thing ted cruz talked about a lot is campaign is on a national scale and he would make the deck of the last two winners out of iowa came out of the caucus broke and that was rick santorum and mike huckabee. he insists that his campaign is not built that way and that is how he figures he is in for the long hall. martha: so much talk about anger and the america that voters are sick of washington and most of the candidates and the way things are done. it was interesting to see the entrance told that the anger didn't just go to donald trump. a good chunk of it did but it was spread around. the effort on the other candidates part to tapping to what donald trump started in terms of saying i understand how you feel out there is working not only for him but also for them too which is pretty
interesting. bill: donald trump has not tweeted in 13 hours. we are back here in new york and thank you for being with us over the past week in iowa. martha: new hampshire next, have a great day, everybody. a shake-up after the iowa caucuses with some candidates calling it quits and others get a big boost from the first contest in the presidential race but the focus shifts to new hampshire, the first primary, one week from today. i am jenna lee. jon: i am john scott, at bernie sanders and hillary clinton in a razor-thin raise at this point remains undecided but republicans turned out in record numbers sending a clear victory to ted cruz over donald trump who fished second and right on his heels surging, marco rubio.