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nice to have you along. back in washington nbc sunday at 11:00 and 5:00 p.m. eastern with the latest buzz. >> i were a chris wallace reporting from manchester, new hampshire. today, the governors. they have started as the front runners in the g.o.p. race for president. now they are fighting just to stay alive. >> you have fought been involved in a consequential decision where you had to be held account am the you have not. . >> how tough is it to steam from an did early woman. >> he anything he can impose anything he wants. >> we talk with all three as they battle in the g.o.p. establishment claim against a rising marco rubio. >> this notion that barack obama doesn't know what he is doing --. >> there it is, memorizeed 25 seconds and see if they can put
a dent in the iowa freeway runners. >> build a wall. triple the border patrol. >> a replace obamacare with something so much better, kasich, bush, and christie, live here. >> bat embetween the two democratic candidateses is down right nasty. >> secretary clinton represents the establishment. >> enough is enough. you have something to say, say it directly. >> we ask the panel if bernie sandersen the clinton coronation all right new on fox news sunday. >> hello, again, from fox news in new hampshire. we are outside downtown manchester open campus of the college with no outside but here the fire is glowing. in two days, voters head to the polls. last night the candidates debate
again a vote for several to take down rubio and to join trump and cruz in the top tier, we will talk with christie and kasich and butch all fighting to stay alive in the gone race. first, our chief political corporate, carl cameron, on winners and losers. >> good morning, chris. first-in-the-nation voters tend to wait until the last minute to make up their mines so last night's battles are sure to have an effect on their decisions. marco rubio surging in the polls and got hit by chris christie for inexperience and repeating canned millionized lines. >> he simply does not have the expense to be past the country and make the decisions. >> expense is not just what you did but how it worked out under chris christie governorship of new jersey, they have been downgraded nine times in their credit rating. that is what washington, dc, does. all the drive by shot at going with incorrect and incomplete
information and the millionized 25 second speech. >> chris christie was hit by a massive snowstorm and you does not want to go back, the notion that barack obama don't know what he is doing is not true. >> there it is. the memorized 25 second speech. >> donald trump defended the support for imminent domain and jeb bush called him out for how he has used it. >> they all want the keystone xl pipeline which without imminent domain would not go 10'. you needham meant domain. >> what donald trump did was use imminent domain to try to take the property of an elderly woman on the trip in atlantic city. that is not what we dough. that is wrong. >> a lot of times --. >> how tough is it to steal from an elderlily woman? >> quiet. >> imminent domain is unpopular in new hampshire with a protect propped for years to bring power lines from canada through the north and it has been stalled by
residents. john kasich needed a good night and he got good reviews the governors reasserted themselves. now it is a sprint for the next two days until the polls close on tuesday night. >> thanks for that. now the first of the three governors stopping by our manchester set here today, the man at the center of the marco rubio episode, until governor chris christie. welcome back to fox news. your take down of marco rubio which is what i call it, the story of night. here is another clip. >> from protecting the people of florida from imminent domain to bring accountability to the v.a. and to sanctions terrorist group i am proud of my service in the united states senate. >> the fact is when you talk about the sanctions you were not there to vote for it. that is not leadership. that is truancy.
>> so, governor, what do you think the debate revealed about marco rubio? >> first off, itry vealed something about what you need to be president of the united states. you have to be tested. you have to be prepared. you have to be expected and ready. that is what i tried to show the folks last night i am test asked represented and ready. i have said about senator marco rubio was on full display. he is not ready. he is a good guy but he is not ready to be president of the united states. >> you skilled you are at that as rubio seemed almost unravel like a witness under cross-examination personally on the same. how did it feel? >> i felt justified. i have been saying this for a long-term and i don't think the people have been listening. the fact is, there were a lot of people watching and listening. it is not about marco rubio but our country. it is about the american people. we have had a president for seven years the first term united states senator who never
magazined anything and our government is unravelling with the russians and ukraine and syria falling apart, libya falling aparty, our economy is growing at .7% and we do not need another on the job training in the white house. i have done. what i felt i was glad the american people are seeing this before they make a mistake. >> according to the real clear politics average of the recent polls in new hampshire, you are running 6th with less than 5% support and some who much wad last night and said, you really hurt rubio but did you help your self. in a pcs you are in now which is not too good. >> no palm was taken after last night? what people saw last night, millions saw that last night that i am ready to be president of the united states. >> how do you show senate? how did you show your leadership? remember, something, he
tried to come back at me. i answered him because i have been tested. by the way, who do you want on the stage against hillary clinton? do republicans want to see someone who can absolutely answer secretary clinton's every line or someone who will crumble in front of hillary clinton in that is extraordinarily important. by the way, this is about the american people. we need an experienced president. we need a successful presidency. the american people desperately need it. i have been tested. whether rebuilting after hurricane sandy or standing up to a democratic legislature our the teacher's union i am tough enough to take on hillary clinton and the problems this face the united states. >> rubio tries to get into your record and was not successful. let me try more successfully. you have had bridge-gate that of involved some of your top aides, you have had nine credit downgrades in new jersey on your watch. new jersey has the eighth slow
of the job growth since the recession ended in 2009. those are not badges of honor. >> are used dated material. this year, 2015, new jersey has the greatest job growth in 15 years. in 15 years. that spans five governors. this year, we created secretary,000 new private sector jobs in new jersey. we have cut --. >> but since the recovery, and this is in january, you are still the eighth slowest state in job recovery. >> we were the slowest state when i became governor. the slowest i am be working with the d legislature that will not doing i want but with what i have forced them do we have move up the chart. i will not let anyone insult the people of new jersey who is worked hard to bring our state back. in the midst of that, we were hit with a the second worst natural disaster in american history and if light of that, we were devastated and the come back in 2015 it is extraordinary
and the people of new jersey deserve great credit. i will not let marco rubio or you my friend, insult the people i represent. >> i am not insulting but citing your record. >> it is not just my state but their state. it is our country. i am not going to allow people to insult the effort of the people of new jersey. i have done a great job. >> let in ask you about another governor, you say you have to be the tough governor coming out of new hampshire. >> i would like to be. there are three of you and will talk to all of you. your super pac attacks john kasich for being governor of ohio he spent eight years on wall street. your wife works on wall street and she is the primary breadwinner in the christie family and the major industry donor to the christie campaign and super pick is the financial industry. what is wrong with wall street? >> my wife is not running for anything. my wife is not running for
anything. what that point south that governor kasich, the super bowl pack said that governor kasich was there when lehman brothers went down, managing director and voted in conditioning for bailout to the banks and for special interest loopholes were it is not about how much machine he made but how much when he was in congress he let others make. that is what the point of commercial is, nothing else. as i said, he is a good governor. i an better. >> and the argument, and this is our last question, you have four of you, the three governors and rubio in the so-called establishment bouncing against each other and ultimately, whatever divides you, you would like to see one of you win versus trump or cruz how quickly do you need to coalesce an one, and i necessity you hope it is you, to take them on? >> all week the media tried to make that we coalesce an marco rubio and after you saw the performance should people coalesce around marco rubio? is that the kind of performance
or leadership that we want to see on the stage against hillary clinton? this is about the american people and changing lives. we need a strong, tough president. hillary clinton is one of toughest political fighters in this country. she is going to fight like crazy >> it needs to go on while the voters decide. 180,000 people have voted in iowa. and you when to help the race? last question. >> the question, sunday you all coe alet bumping up against each other? >> you infer a position but . >> listen, infederal, at last we are using the correct words. there is for reason to could aless after 180,000 people in iowa have voted in a caucus. let people vote. last night, what they saw is instructive and understoods to be soon and needs to be seen the
my strong leadership needs to be seen and the robotic performance of senator marco rubio needs to be seen. >> great to have you. >> did you say great to have you? >> i have taken over. it is over, buddy. i will interview bush, i would love to. >> i am sure you would. >> by, that was a good night but not that good. >> the establishment favorite out of new hampshire, and we will sit down with john kasich and jeb bush as we continue from manchester, new hampshire. at ally bank, no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like vacations equal getting carried away.
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>> welcome back to new hampshire. we are now just two days from the first-in-the-nation primary. we have governor kasich of he. governor, welcome back. >> thank you. with all the fuss over marco rubio, you said something big that flew under the radar, you said in the first 100 days as president, you will submit a comprehensive immigration reform plan to congress including a path to citizenship. >> no, no, i said path to localization. >> what i prepared is, first, we will freeze all federal regulations for a year and have a vice president begin to deregulate and look at what does not make sense and get rid of them. two, we will have tax cuts for businesses and for individuals and, three, restrain governments. get a balanced budget. four, get the border fix, five, work on social security, all in 100 daze. >> back to number four you did future say get the board are fix
you said and you are right, comprehensive immigration reform including a path to legal legalization. look, finish the wall, have a gift worker program where people can come in and work and go home and for the 11.5 million here who have not commit add crime since they have been here, a path to legalization. >> what about the argument that you have to function the border before you discuss. >> get it done. have the border and do the whole thing. if subsequent says we have to sequence be first the border, and in six months, that is a little detail. we need to get it done. i have done 100 townhall meetings here. i have met with more people in new hampshire face to face than anyone run for president and done it all over the country. the country is ready for
solutions and wants answers. they want to be conservative answers but they do not want to say, we don't care what the democrats think. people say, how do you bring people together? i have done it all of my career. >> you point out you had your 100th townhall and the only person would has more is john mccain. >> we have more coming. >> you have spent almost --. >> you have spent a few months here and you are almost broke. >> i don't know that is true. >> you have $1 million which is not a lot money in campaigns. anyway, here is my question, don't you have to finish first here among the so-called --. >> i am not establishment candidate. i have never been establishment. i am not anti-establishment. >> 18 years in congress. >> i shook up the system, offering budgets gone my own president, trying to get to a balanced bath when i thought he fell short and reformed the welfare system, and i was involved in restricting or
reform the pentagon as a republican and i said after we do welfare if you reform welfare reform it for the rip. >> you are a hybrid. don't you have to finish first among the --. >> all i have to do is finish where we all think that we did well here and we are going to do well. i have an army of people, the best ground game seen in 40 years by humphrey. here is the situation: people want to be with the winner rather than make one or be with a leader rather than make one. a last people have money. we do well here, we are organized. we are on the ground in south carolina. we have people there. we have people in nevada, mississippi right new we have an election tomorrow and i who wins because of trent lott. >> the knock on you and watching tv here in new hampshire the last few days i see the negative ads over and over again.
>> i have not run any. i run a positive campaign. >> the knock is are the "obama republican," as the ad puts it. >> i have fought seen it. >> common core, obama's medicaid expansion, tax increases, barack obama? no, john kasich. >> now, we checked it out and you have raised some questions but --. no, no, no. >> let me finish, you have raised but over all lowered. >> $5 billion. we cut taxes by $5 billion more than any governor in america and this is no one balanced as many budgets as i have, cut as many taxes. >> wait, wait, wait, wait. chris, i prepared taking 104 federal education programs and putting them in four buckets and send them to the states i have been clear from the beginning, i support high standards. and local control.
that is what we do in ohio the our school board approves the standards and the local school boards create the curriculum of the i am for total local criminal. not for anything out of walk. the education programs are all moved bang where they should be. >> you have said proudly you are for higher --. >> i am for high standards which our state school board approves and they are going through it again with a local board of education approaching the curriculum with the advice and concept of parents, it is in our budget proposal. can you not be more local. >> we will look . >> let's tack obamacare. >> let's look at an ad. >> i cut taxes, balanced budgets, rejected obamacare without leave anyone behind. >> now, you say rejected obamacare and there are a number of leading conservatives who say that is wrong because you went
for thes expansion of medicaid which is a pale particular of obamacare. you pushed forward so hard you went around your republican-controlled state legislature to impose it. , expansion of medicaid. >> can i explain this? >> absolutely. ronald reagan expanded medicaid five times. i can expand medicaid without having to have obamacare. >> but it was part of obamacare? >> we could, expand it without obama care. i have repeal obamacare and i am in court suing people to stop obamacare. third, we did not create a state exchange under obamacare. the fact is, as i will repeal it and what i will do is change the health care system to a point where it is free market driven by paying for hospitals and doctors that deliver quality health care at lower prices. do not try to hang me up on obama care. does it not control the cost medicine, and, second, it
hamstrings small business. third, it has drive up the cost of health insurance if my state by 80 percent. reagan did it five times by exspokespersonning medicaid the our medicaid program has gone from over 10 percent growth to 2.5 percent in my second budget. >> governor? >> yes? thank you is it. >> i want to talk more. >> i want to be 6' tall but that will not happen. >> last thing i have run a positive campaign of bringing people together and the establishment "establishment," have spent $5 million $6 million running ads against me. it would be great if we can win. being positive. right? >> thank you. >> say goodbye. >> goodbye, everyone, as you gracefully leave we are going to bring in governor bush. >> they wired me in here.
>> thank you. >> a year ago bush was the clear front researcher for the republican nomination and now after fishing 6th in iowa he is pin his presidential hop on -- hopes on a comeback in new hampshire. >> great to be with you. >> that was a quick transition, kind of cool. >> cool. like everyone is stopping by, i feel like a barber, one chair no reading. >> i need a hair cut. >> had a dust up with donald trump over imminent domain. >> to turn this into a limousine parking lot for his casinos is not public. >> he wants to be tux you will have a lot ties and it does nut work --. >> how tough it is to steal property from an elderlyily woman. >> let me talk.
>> quiet. >> boo. boo. boo. >> what do you think that revealed about donald trump and how did you feel as the governor, eight year governor of the state of florida when he quieted you. >> look, he does not look like a president when he asked that way and it is easy to make him act that way the he does not sound like a conservative when he uses police powers of government they take private property for private use. that is outrageous, and if you had to pick when thing that conservatives go crazy it is this. this is in our state, we amended our constitution after the decision to assure it never happened. he tried to take the property of a 75 year old woman to use it to tear it down and turn it into a parking lot for limousines for high rollers going into his failed casinos. this is not the same thing as a pipeline or a bridge or interstate highway. >> how bad a night for the former protege, marco rubio?
>> you know he is so scripted, so gifted, he is a great speak are but he came across as robotic and he missed the sense of the question about leadership. can you make a tough decision? marco is gifted but he has never had the chance to actually make a tough decision like governors do. when i thing about it i think of eight hurricanes and four tropical storms in 16 months where you cannot script that. you got to go out and be in to help people and we did. >> your super pac has spent an estimated $20 million attacking rubio. shear a clip from one of the ads. >> marco rubio ran more senate say he opposed amnesty. and he broke his promise. joining with liberal democrats to co-author the path to citizenship bill. >> his finger aren'ts are all over that bill. >> do you not control the super pac your campaign ran a full page ad this week in a local paper, eight republican speaks
say senator marco rubio is a tremendous political tall were he is not the best choice as command are in chief. >> exactly. >> my question is, other than the fact he is beating you, why the . >> those would know us best like marco and they bid me, the elected officials all the speakers other than one that served prior to him, and after him, a majority of the house of representatives and a majority of the senate, they have had a chance to work both of us and they pick me by three-quarters to 90 percent of them, the simple fact is i am a leader, marco is a gived young man. there is a big different friend. we are running for the president of the united states not the back bench of the u.s. senate. >> the fact is, you are on record supporting him to be romney moves choice for vice president but this would be a heartbeat away. >> and he recommended --. >> you cried pore joy when he
was elected. >> absolutely. >> were you wrong? >> for i was not wrong. she gived. i was excited he beat charles crist and i supported him for vice president. he spoor medicine for vice president with mitt romney, who decided to go in a different direction from both of us. we are talking about presidency of the united states and living in dangerous times made worse by barack obama and we need someone with a steady hand that is a command are in chief that can make the tough decisions. >> do you think the guy on same last night would you endorsed for vice president could be a heartbeat away from the president? >> i will support the republican nominee even if it is donald trump. >> to show you crazy? how committed. >> donald trump is unsteady about this stuff but hillary clinton would be a disaster for country and we need to unite behind the candidate. but i think it will be me because i have the proven record, solid, consistent, conservative record you cannot have someone not a conserve
different running as the nominee for reserve stiff party. >> you started the campaign running say you are shaped by your "own thinking." but this week you brought in your beloved mom, 90-year-old, she would be mad at me for saying that. >> she is happy with it. >> form first lady and your super pac now is running ads in south carolina featuring your where. here is a clip. >> i know jeb, he will unite our country. >> was keeping your family at such a distance for so long a mistake? law is no conflict here. i'm running for the presidency of the united states and show my life experience but i am a bush. i have never tried to disown that. i am totally blessed to be barbara bush's son and the brother of george w. bush and the great of the man alive is my
dad. this is the going. there is a tendency to create a narrative where it is automatic ending, we have fought elect add single death yet. iowa just started. >> you talk about that, but there is this argument that there are four of you the. >> i heard the commons. >> the establishment. >> but there is rubio and three governors and the argument is if you are beating donald trump and ted cruz you need to get together, pick one, or let voters pick one and back that person. let the voters decide this. all the voters have a great ability to focus on what is upon. that is why i feel confident. people are giving me a look as well as other candidates and we are rising up here because we spent a lot of time here with a great ground game. >> senator graham who has
endorsed you and back you here in new hampshire said if you don't beat rubio --. >> he said if i get crushed by rubio that will be problem all the words he used is you are toast. >> but he said getting beat by rubio is not what he said. >> obviously, you could survive if you are beaten by rubio. >> there is some secret squirrel meeting where you decide who wins and who loses, marco rubio was in third place and i cannot criminal that. i work my heart out. >> you are on to south carolina. >> wednesday morning i have my first even in south carolina and scheduling the nevada trip, too. >> always a pleasure and thank you for making time. >> we will traffic accident what happens offer next 48 hours. >> thank you. >> our special new hampshire sunday group joins us to discuss last night's revealing
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group. anchor of "special report," bret baier, and julie pace covering the white house for the associated press and we are honored to have john sununu, actually, honored to have all of you and james pin tell with boston globe so, governor sununu your reaction to last night's debate. >> i think that the general consensus is that the governors did well is crack. the three of them acting if concert reinforced the million they were trying to give that experience is important. senator marco rubio did step in it a couple of types but a last foes have missed the two nuggets, he got out, his answer on liven jizzed the pro life community and there is a huge group of folks that think that president obama is messing the country up on purpose and there he repeated it three times and got criticized, he at least get a nugget of benefit from those
folks that thing he was on target. >> julie you were the lead reporter who wrote the big ap store overnight. how bad was the rubio meltdown? are we talking about rick perry oops territory? >> if you talk to the up decided voters in new mexico they have a question of his experience and the fact that he has only been in the senate for one permanent, does he have the qualifications. this could reinforce there may not be another level or he could be too cautious and scripted. at the same time, a lot of the voters want someone who is a good communicator, who is able to bring more people into the party. but the challenge for him is there are a lot of undecided and if this is seep as a tough night for him they could move to one of governors who did have strong nights. >> you have been all over the state the last few days, and the big picture, your sense of this
race and the degree to which last night's debate reshaped it. >> it shuffles the deck. donald trump is a beneficiary because going if he had a big lead and we talked last night of at debate and he said he was looking for the clubhouse, playing it safe. he is fining the clubhouse. we will see how the rubio moment changes things. it was nice that governor christie welcomed to you your show. >> i was grateful. all the key thing in new hampshire is the 40 percent undeclared here. they can either vote in the democrat or republican primary and they can go if this day, decide, and we you are talking about at the half people that can shift just for that day. job kasich could benefit that way, too. >> james, you have been following this except for governor sununu we come up here before and you have been following this months. your sense of the race?
director sense of the debate, is trump holding on to the lead? which of the four, boy they hate when i call them the four establishment candidates, gaining traction. >> a couple of things, all week the question about trump is not whether he will have taken himself out by something he says but the ground game. can he actually get the people out to vote? they put a last of the in, the last month, but how ever picture and targeted the efforts are. at the rallies, a lot of the people are not from new hampshire, people working at the callsts are people so greeted to him they have moved up here for the last three weeks. we saw a key thing flip this westbound, and that, for so many months, this campaign has been about the anger of the base and whether the candidates "get it," and we are seeing a flip on who can beat hillary clinton and who
can beat bernie sanders and that is what marco rubio was able to ride the wave and now there are questions. i wonder how many actually watched it but the news coverage that marco rubio had a bad night will have an impact. >> you have to think --. >> it will is an impact. >> to the degree, to have to happen to him two days before the primary is not --. >> a third of republican voters are making up their mind and bret baier is right this is about independent voters and there are a number of choices. donald trump is win on respect side, and john kasich is trying to ameal to them but there is a question of bernie sanders, the lead is based on, he is --. >> just homed that stuff.: -- hold that stuff. >> governor, you are not a fan of donald trump to put it mildly but i thought he had a good night. >> i thought he did not i thought he flubbed the imminent domain which is important to
republicans and the casey on conservativism could get him a "k" in english but an "f" but he made a fool of him health on health care putting in a program to keep people from die in the streets. >> i thought he had a good night he started off the top reminding voters ofment the things he said that got him support from the beginning youing which the on immigration and blocking muslims from coming to the united states and the focus on marco rubio took a lot of the attention away from him as far as direct attacks from the try values other than governor bush and he help merged unscathed if you looked to go after him and tried to knock him down i am not sure that was plushed. >> ted cruz, i don't thing he had the best debate night and he obviously is good if that -- if thatten v but because of the marco rubio and chris christie
exchange it went away for ted cruz. because of all of governors had a good night it dilutes that marco rubio had a bad night and donald trump sames -- sails. >> what we see going into the debate is drum's lead still size average but slipping away to rubio and now, if trump had a relatively good night, governor sununu to the contrary does it stand him in good instead. >> it was good forum trump for the same reasons. it was confusing for the establishment. marco rubio rose, and that made sense but the other three did not go down only chris christie and kasich and bush held their occupy. we are tag about going you, almost in the margin of error. this is a ball. >> we will turn to the d race
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here is the latest on the tightening democratic race. ed? >> hillary clinton could be looking past new hampshire to the south but bernie sanders is not going away easy. >> hillary clinton making history as the first female president is no longer a slam dunk so friends are getting anxious. >> there is a special place in hell for women who don't help each other. >> despite the dramatic stales hillary clinton is spending the sunday, over 700 miles from man chart in flint, minute, trying to look presidential about the water crisis. >> it is thomasly unacceptable in the united states of america to have allowed this to happen. >> but the once inof thible nominee is in a major roadblock: bernie sanders. >> being part of establishment is having a have pack that
raised $15 million from wall street. >> plus, the lingering f.b.i. investigation into her e-mails and plunging palm numbers. bernie sanders now has subjected into a dead heat nationally according to quinnipiac which gave her 31-point lead in december. the aides believe at south carolina and other battles grounds with a big edge with african-americans she will prevail. >> it is time to end the very artful smear you and director campaign --. >> whoa. >> you have been carrying out. >> some are frustrateed it nuclear for so long for the push back and he is raising more money than her giving her the fuel for a long struggle emfor the only nation. >> we are back now with the panel. we asked you four questions for pan circle got this on twitter from paul elliott" hillary clinton's sponsor by goldman sachs, a progressive." how badly do you think that the
big speaking fees and the millions in campaign contributions from wall street, how badly is that hurting her? haw is where he is most vulnerable. put the mains aside and everyone wants to talk about that but she doesn't have a good answer on why she accept the money for the speaking fees really is not a great answer. it was widely specific she would run and she went to the banks and we have fought seen what she said speaking to wall street executives and when bernie sanders brings it up, it reinforces a narrative about her. >> and not that pollersts are interested in, can she make that stick of not releasing the transcripts? >> new the question has been asked, it been as lot harder fore her not to release the scripts but we have no idea what is in the information.
>> the clinton coronation is over, and, even if hillary clinton ends up winning the nomination it will only be after a long and bitter battle with bernie sanders that will keep pushing her further and further to the left. >> i want to the event where the poll is said to be outlier and they think by the time they get to south carolina everything is going to get back together for hillary clinton. but the momentum means something. and movements noon something. if bernie sanders has a huge win here in new hampshire, he is going to have a bounce and it will give him a second look by all kinds of different parts of the democratic party the. >> and he has millions in the bank. nothing will force him to get out. thank you is a problem for hillary clinton. if she is vulnerable the wall street thing is a big vol summerribility and what is in the script could be warm and
fuzzy language about golden sacks but the mail thing is serious. >> i want on get do that because in the debate she was asked how confident she is the fbi investigation will turn up nothing about the classified information and private e-mails. here is the will turn up nothing about her private e-mailss and classifie information on that. here was her response. >> i am 100% confident. this is a security review that was requested. it is being carried out. it will be resolved. >> governor, how serious do you think the clinton e-mail scandal is, and what about clinton's defense or latest defense, which is some classified information turned up on colin powell's private e-mail, turned up on the private e-mails of some of condi rice's aides. in effect, everyone does it. >> you know, six months ago, i was worried about her coronation. now i'm worried that she's not going to get the nomination.
the e-mails are a serious issue. bernie has not used them aggressively. she's gotten a free ride in that whole process. and i don't think she understands how close she is to real political and legal trouble with what's coming through the fbi. i think the behind-the-scenes activity of the democratic party in trying the keep joe biden propped up and ready tells more about what her situation is than anything else. >> how do you see -- >> i think they are hoping that joe is ready to jump in quickly. some of the big donors are making commitments to him that if he does have to do it, they will be there. they're just getting ready for plan b. >> james, your sense. are voters here following the e-mail scandal specifically, or does it show up more just in a perception of her on the issues of honesty and trustworthiness? >> yeah, it obviously did impact her trustworthiness. you 1 saw those numbers dive sie the spring heading all the way into that 11-hour testimony.
talking about the e-mails. but in terms of democratic primary voters, julie is right. they don't care. this is a general election issue. there's no doubt about it. and how that flips into -- >> you don't think it's hurting her at all in the primaries? part of her problem with bernie sanders is -- >> i think it adds into this idea of ugh, the clintons. and are there questions marks that we have in terms of the democraticrs primary voter vers sort of the enthusiasm that you have towards bernie sanders. i think the two questions right now are something that we know, and something we don't know. something we know is that bernie sanders raised a lot of money. that is probably the most important metric right now. he's raised more money than hillary clinton did in the last quarter. that's a really important metric. itti means he can blast on. we focused on these polls, what's going to happen next and next and next. but then it gets to the question of the. if he does really well here. i don't know. what is really well? is really well winning by ten points? that sounds pretty y good. if he wins by six points? there is a perception that his
lead here is not that big inside both campaigns. >> after watching the democratic debate and seeing how, one, he argued with her on even terms and seemed to really get under her skin, and after watching him draw even, not in new hampshire, but in the national polls, should we start taking bernie sanders more seriously as a potential democratic nominee? >> listen, it's easy to buy into the clinton argument that a number of states don't line up for bernie sanders. in the african-american community, so far, he does not have a lot of support. that can change. i don't think it's a fantasy to believe that bernie sanders could win other states. i also come back to here in new hampshire, these undeclared voters. and they could shift for bernie sanders in a vote against hillary clinton. day.could decide that or they could play in the republican party. that's what's so fascinating about this state in particular. >> julie, 30 seconds. we've all thought well, he's an interesting diversion, but he's a democratic socialist. he'll eventually go away.
is it time to start taking bernie sanders more seriously as a potential nominee? >> i would like to see how he does in super tuesday states in the south. if he can stay competitive with clinton in the delegate count there, i think we definitely need to i take him seriously as potential nominee. even so, i think we need to take him seriously as someone who will push her for a long time in this race. >> the democratic party will never let bernie be their nominee. >> all aright. thank you, panel. see you next sunday back in washington. up next, fun in the snow, as we go on the trail. yeah, here it is. on the trail in new hampshire. at ally bank, no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like grandkids equals free tech support. oh, look at you, so great to see you! none of this works. come on in. i'm here to get the lady of the house back on her feet.
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