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i want to thank everybody. we're getting unbelievable ratings here. thank you very much, all you people watching us on a regular basis. and thanks again for watching tonight. i'm bill o'reilly. please remember, the spin stops here because we are definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight. with less than 24 hours to go before the final republican debate, ahead of the south carolina primary. over the past few days, the presidential hopefuls have been crisscrossing south carolina, a state not only known for its conservative, christian values, but for its rough and tumble politics. and we're definitely seeing evidence of that tonight. some of the worst of it coming from donald trump and ted cruz. as the battle between the two men gets uglier. mr. trump accusing senator cruz of dirty tricks and down right
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behavior, releasing tweets such as -- >> and things are getting just as fiery on the democratic side as bernie sanders looks to build on his big win in new hampshire, and hillary clinton tries to regain her standing with voters. we have a terrific lineup for you tonight. chris stirewalt is here to explain why the stakes are so high for the republicans in south carolina. then we'll have howie curts about last night's democratic debate and why this moderator failed to even ask mrs. clinton a key question about something. you'll have to see. plus, frank luntz breaks down the best campaign messaging so
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far. but we begin with john roberts in greenville, south carolina. >> reporter: south carolina is famous for its bare knuckle politics. it took senator john mccain years to get past the anger he felt over what bush supporters did to him in the 2000 primary campaign. and there are plenty of bean balls being thrown back and forth by all sides. the sharpest battles at the moment are between donald trump and ted cruz, and trump and jeb bush. the trump campaign made a big point of taking down a negative ad of ted cruz saying they wanted to wage a positive campaign. but on the stump, trump continues to go after his opponents. >> poor jeb. he spent $20 million on negative ads. if he didn't do that, i wouldn't be talking badly about him, you know? and he's so off, all he has to do is stop and i'll leave him alone. bush says, i do not believe he's a true conservative.
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these people are stupid. cruz today took an ad that's so false. i just hope you don't believe the crap, because it's all crap. >> one of the big dirty tricks of the 2000 campaign was push polling against john mccain. i talked to a couple of voters who say they were targeted by push polls, highly negative of marco rubio and donald trump. the polls said they came from remington research, which is a company created by ted cruz's campaign manager. the cruz campaign said we had nothing to do with it, insisting that whomover was behind the polls was just trying to make them look bad. and we still got seven days to go. donald trump reigniting suggestions that cruz isn't eligible to be president. tweeting, if ted cruz doesn't clean up his act, stop cheating, and doing negative ads, i have standing to sue him for not being a natural born citizen.
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chris stirewalt is here. every time i see you, it's got to be a presidential debate. great to have you tonight. >> we can just hang. it doesn't have to be a debate. >> but it's so fun and you say, chris, the stakes are so high for the gop in south carolina. >> well, that's right. you have two things really that are going on in south carolina. you have, number one, the test of trump versus cruz. and this comes down to trump and this is an open primary, and what trump wants to do is re-create the success he had in new hampshire where he can say i can bring in democrats, others, reagan democrats and others to come in and make the republican party this populist party where ted cruz says he wants it to be conservative, evangelical christians. that's what we normally identify with south carolina. that's how ted cruz won in iowa. so we will see which of them is
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right. then you have the undercard, which is marco rubio is looking for the comeback. he suffered in new hampshire because chris christie weaponized himself, blew him up in the debate. rubio took a lot of heat, finished poorly. now wants a comeback. jeb bush wants to stop him. jeb bush, who has -- >> can jeb bush do it? that's the question everybody is asking as we enter south carolina. >> look, i don't think jeb bush has a way to be the republican nominee and i don't think if he could be the republican nominee it would be worth a nickel, because the party would hate him so much by the time he got there, i don't know that would work out. but could he stop marco rubio in south carolina?his brother is hl for him. jeb bush still has a lot of money. they could run a lot of attack ads on marco rubio and drag him out of the race. but rubio could come back. >> i just get confused. we're talking about these candidates trying to appeal to the evangelical voter and
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they're launching these attacks on each other. donald trump calling ted cruz a cheater. jeb bush a lightweight. i'm looking at tweets that have gone on today and it's not just donald trump. it's getting fiery in the state of south carolina. >> well, let's not blame south carolina for this, because it's sort of where we are in the race. the ads that they're running in iowa and new hampshire were hallmark valentine's cards to one another. now you get to south carolina and it's the states that do it. it's not that the people of south carolina are particularly wicked or they like attack ads, people are just desperate to get through this. and with jeb bush, this is it for him. he knows he either killing rubio here or the trail ends. and for cruz and trump, it's the
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fight for momentum going into the s.e.c. primary. so the stakes are huge. people get nasty. this is politics. it's maybe bad for the country, but fascinating to watch. >> we have something coming up saying this is only a good thing for the gop. and right now, chris stirewalt, about half of the gop voters in the state are undecided. so thank you for joining us tonight. >> you bet. four candidates spent the tay taking a break from the nastiness and the fight in south carolina, discussing issues of faith in the 2016 race instead. ben carson, jeb bush, and senators marco rubio and ted cruz spoke at the faith and family summit earlier today. and in a state where some 65% of voters identify as evangelicals, according to 2012 exit polls, this group of voters could once again be a critical win. here's just some of what we heard today. >> the presidency is a
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tremendous opportunity to affect the whole being of the country. we have allowed the purveyors of division to hold sway in our society, and hence, we believe that there is a war on women and there are race wars, and there are income wars, and there are age wars, and there are religious wars, and there's a war on virtually anything that anybody can imagine, because they live by the old adage, divide and conquer. and it's really going to be up to we, the people and it helps tremendously when you have a president who recognizes that we, the american people, are not each other's enemies. >> i've only made a couple of promises if i'm president. one is, on day one, i won't blame my predecessor. whatever the problem is, i'll accept personal responsibility and try to solve the problem. no one will say the dog ate my homework or anything like that. [ applause ] and i will do whatever i can to
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avoid pushing people down to make myself look big and strong. we need to get back to, we're americans and we have a set of principles that guide us. >> our next president must be someone that takes our message to people that don't vote for people like me. who can take the message of limited government, free enterprise and a strong national defense to people who, for the last 20 years perhaps haven't voted for people like me. this time, if you vote for me, you will have a chance to elect someone who is as conservative and committed to conservatism as anyone in this race, but someone who can grow this movement. and someone that can unify our country. >> look, my faith is integral to who i am. actually, that tragic shooting at the emanuel ame church provided a powerful illustration of how faith can bring us together.
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and it also was a real missed opportunity for the president. you know, one of the saddest things of the last seven years of the obama presidency is that every turn it seems the president tries to divide us, tries to separate us on racial lines, on ethnic lines, on religious lines, tries to pit us against each other. i think we should have a president that works to unify us, who works to unify us on our shared values. >> katen daws >> great to have both of you here tonight. you say south carolina likes it messy. it's getting even messier, referring to the nascar libertarians. >> no question. south carolina is different than iowa or new hampshire. iowa, the voters go in to diners
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and street corners and talk to the individuals about ethanol and subsidies and stuff that's personal to them. hogan and i have both been to new hampshire and iowa. new hampshire voters expect you to come into their living room, have a cup of coffee and talk about things that matter to them. in south carolina, we're going to have about 700,000 republicans next saturday and they're looking for how you take a punch. >> 700,000 as far as turnout. where does that put the state historically? >> the largest ever. >> who does that benefit the most? >> we'll find out sunday. i think right now, give trump credit for creating a lot of enthusia enthusiasm. marco rubio and ted cruz have brought people. so give them all credit for creating a lot of enthusiasm. but south carolina is not a place where you can come whine about somebody did something that was ugly or said something. our voters want to see you be
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tested and the reason why is, hogan worked in arkansas. the clintons are coming. our voters, our candidates better be ready. >> what do you do to prepare for that? he says the clintons are coming, what do you do? >> katon is right, you don't whine. this is going to be a bare knuckle blood bath in south carolina. iowa and new hampshire is great, but this is a whole different kind of tough here. >> what is so different about the electorate there? >> well, by the time we get here, obviously, stirewalt was right. this is kind of the game changer moving through the s.e.c. primary states. and south carolina is the pivotal place for a lot of these candidates. it can springboard your campaign or sink your campaign. but the thing about south carolina, we do it with a smile. we say "bless your heart" while we're slitting your throat and you wonder, what just happened to me and you just got gutted
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like a fish. and that's how it is in south carolina and it is bare knuckle and it is tough. >> how do you win over the evangelicals? they're playing dirty politics right now. is that going to be effective? >> the evangelicals are not really a monolithic vote. they've been voting a long time in south carolina. they're the nascar sort of libertarian vote that crosses over there, they're looking for a candidate. trump has caught their attention, but i would caught trump that this week is going to be pivotal. >> hogan, you seem to agree with that. why is donald trump winning the evangelical vote in your state? >> look, evangelicals have been taken for a ride by snake oil salesman for decades in the campaign process, okay? ted cruz comes to town and parades himself around as the paragon of christian vir chow. then we find out he doesn't tithe, he doesn't have any
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problem lying, cheating, stealing votes from ben carson. the simplest of evangelical tasks, apologize, ask for forgiveness. and on the debate stage, ted cruz said it's cnn's fault accusing ben carson of withdrawing the race. that is not what evangelicals like. they understand donald trump doesn't come from them. that's not the issue with donald trump. at least someone is talking to them plainly, clearly, with a message, and they have no problem supporting someone who is not an evangelical, as long as they don't claim to be one thing publicly and something different privately. >> katon, i want to get jeb bush back in here. you say the state does not want another bush or another clinton. jeb bush, we have seen, has been using his mother in ads and recently has brought out his brother, the former president, to endorse him. could this work in south carolina?
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could this be a turning point for jeb bush's campaign? >> i wouldn't say the state is not ready for another bush. we'll find out. i will say new hampshire was the correction for george w. bush. 18 points where mccain beat him. george w. bush is beloved in south carolina. extremely high poll numbers. came back eight times when i was a chairman to raise money, elect people like lindsey graham, the tim scotts of the world. so is jeb bush coming in to run for the bronze medal or put some sanity to this primary? >> hogan, we haven't mentioned john kasich. obviously had a big win in new hampshire. will that carry over into your state? by the way, he did not attend the summit today, neither did donald trump. kasich's response was, because we didn't attend because we're here, they were at another event. kasich, how will he do?
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>> i don't know that he's going to do all that particularly well because he hasn't been here very much. they're staking their claim in the midwest. they're going to try to perform well here. they want to be the happy warrior amongst the mud slinging. but he's going to try to play well in those tougher midwest states. the problem is, by the time we get to the midwest, if he's not attached his name to a victory in the south, he will have a problem with the media narrative. one more thing that katon said about george w. bush. south carolina feels like we kind of helped make him in 2000. we got the election on track and got him elected. it's one of those adages that you can talk about my momma but you can't. he feels like one of ours. so when people denigrate george w. bush here, we don't like it. people do like him and it's a good part on jeb bush's campaign to bring him down here.
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>> you guys worked in a good southern phrases. thanks, guys. great conversation. ahead, new signs hillary clinton's once clear path to the nomination just got a little bumpier. the new issues that may flip some african-american voters to senator bernie sanders rather than here. ebony williams and alan colmes are here on that. and breaking tonight, new information on what the fbi is investigating as a potential lone wolf terror attack in ohio. a live report just ahead. >> (man) hmm. what do you think? ♪
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breaking tonight, the democrats making a big push just two weeks out from the south carolina primary. hillary clinton and bernie sanders both ramping up their outreach to the state's african-american voters. who are likely to decide that race. while mrs. clinton enjoys large leads in the polls among black voters, bernie sanders is hoping some high profile endorsements can help turn the tide.
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fox news contributor ebony williams and alan colmes are both here tonight, talking about the fight over those votes. but first, we begin with mike emanuel on last night's democratic debate. >> reporter: in last night's democratic debate, bernie sanders did not hesitate to point out how he might be different than president obama. clinton took every opportunity to defend the president. >> the criticism that we've heard from senator sanders about our president i expect from republicans, i do not expect from someone running for the democratic nomination. >> madame secretary, that is a low blow. >> sanders was aggressive on foreign policy. clinton suggested he just doesn't get it, but sanders says he has better judgment. >> i will do everything i can to make certain that the united states and our brave men and women in the military do not get bogged down in perpetual warfare
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in the middle east. >> this is one area i've disagreed with him on who has called for iranian troops ending the civil war in syria. >> reporter: it is expected to be a critical weekend ahead of the next contest in nevada and south carolina. sandra? >> mike, thank you. here now with more on the fight for south carolina, ebony williams is a fox news contributor and alan colmes is host of "the alan colmes show." ebony, black voters have long been loyal to the clintons and it appears that may be changing with hillary clinton. why? >> here's the thing. black voters, like any segment of the electorate, they want access and proximity to power to implement change. we're seeing a change for this reason. this activism mode is picking up momentum and we're seeing people like dr. west, ben jealous and others saying there might be
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another way to get that proximity to power other than the clintons. >> what is the primary interest and what is the biggest concern of the black vote right now? >> a lot of it is employment, certainly. the issue around disproportionate incarceration. those are issues you'll see in the black community. >> and working for bernie sanders, he voted for the 1994 crime bill. >> that's true. hillary clinton talked about incarceration and put these low-level offenses -- >> but why isn't it working? >> she hasn't been in power. she's met with michael brown's family. >> erin garner, tamir rice, she's reaching out. >> she's reached out to those people. i'm not sure how much endorsements affect the vote. do you vote for somebody because somebody of prestige says vote for these people? >> i agree. i think messages is more
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important, like she's met with certain people, so has bernie. the daughter of eric garner has put a big ad out for bernie sanders. she herself, maybe bernie voted for the crime bill of 1994, but hillary and bill clinton were the architects. she was spewing rhetoric hard to stomach, kind of dog whistle politics. >> the nation ran a piece this week titled "why hillary clinton doesn't deserve the black vote." it was written by michelle alexander. she says when bill clinton left office in 2001, the true jobless rate of non-college educated black men, including those behind bars, was 42%. >> the rate went down, especially among black and hispanic youth when bill clinton was president. >> but the point is, that wasn't the unemployment rate --
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>> by the way, wasn't bill clinton the first black president? >> no. >> she's not running -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> it worked at the time. here's what i think the big takeaway is. we're looking at a generational gap. when you look at older elites, they still support hillary clinton. but when you look at young progressives, young people that are more activist in nature, those are people that the bernie sanders message is resonating with more. >> if hillary get is the nominee, i don't think the african-american community is going to vote republican. they're not going to vote on the other side. >> here's the thing, though. i think you're talking about a
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lot of people in the black community open to a more independent or moderate vote, only if for no other reason, the economic issue. what's best for the community is to be open to anyone willing to put the concerns and needs of the community on the agenda. >> will hillary clinton be the nominee in your opinion? >> if he doesn't get indicted, maybe. >> she's not going to get indicted. >> alan, i don't know. >> thank you for joining us. all right. thanks, guys. as hillary and bernie fight for voters ahead of the contest in nevada and south carolina, mrs. clinton may have dodged a bullet in last night's debate. we'll look at why she wasn't asked a single question about that investigation just mentioned. and the one into the clinton foundation. we'll ask howie curts whether clinton's connections to one oh of the moderators could be to
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headquarte headquarters, i'm patricia stark. the fbi is investigating a machete attack in ohio that left four people dead and the assailant dead. it happened yesterday at a restaurant in columbus. police say a back ground check of the attacker's car registration prompted them to notify the terrorism task force. four people were injured rather. authorities don't have a motive yet. the attacker was shot dead by police. diplomatic efforts to achieve a cease-fire and deliver humanitarian aid to trapped syrians appeared to hit a major roadblock. that's because russia insists that it will continue air strikes against rebels. the plan was brokered between the u.s. and moscow this week. it doesn't go into effect for a week. the u.s. warns more innocent lives will be lost if there are further delays. now back to "the kelly file." new questions tonight over
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issues that weren't raised at last night's pbs democratic debate. the clinton foundation, now under federal investigation, was sent a subpoena yesterday for information on clinton's dealings with the foundation while sevening as secretary of state. despite the questions about that and her private e-mail server, the moderators of yesterday's debate, including a woman who actually donated to the foundation in the past, decided that neither topic warranted a single question. here's a sampling of what we did hear last night instead. >> given what you and senator sanders are proposing, in expanding government in almost every area of our lives, is it fair for americans who fear government to fear you? >> what are women missing about you? why would race relations be better under a clinton presidency? >> if we are leaders in the world, where should the u.s. be in this, what should the united
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states be doing, secretary clinton? >> howie curts joins me now. hey, howard. >> hey, sandra. >> first of all, you have an interesting take on this debate. but there was clearly something missing. the state department just yesterday before this debate happened sent a subpoena to the clinton foundation. hillary clinton's on a debate stage and the moderator doesn't bring it up? >> well, it was an important breaking news story that goes by "the washington post." i don't know whether pbs' obvious failure to ask about this breaking news was related to the fact that judy woodruff, six years ago, donated $250 to the clinton foundation. she said it was in response to the earthquake in haiti. but because it was breaking news and because the debate could have broken new ground, it should have been asked and it could have been asked by gwenn eiffel. >> bernie sanders could have
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brought it up in any part of that debate, and he chose to not do that, as well. >> but he's not brought up her e na mail, as well. >> he promised that wasn't a major concern for him. i don't know if there's any expectations he will touch that going forward. that being said, you thought some of those questions were pretty good last night. >> i thought some of the questions about wall street contributions in the case of hillary clinton, about both of them you played before the break being pressed about the size of government, where the people who fear government should fear them. and the question about whether women in new hampshire who voted for bernie, are they really going to hell? but in general, it was a very polite debate, very pbs, which meant there was more -- >> who won? >> that's the style of those particular anchors. i think they stimulated a high minded policy discussion opposed to throwing out specifics of
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each candidate's record and trying to pin them down. they gave them a lot of time to go back and forth without jumping in. >> who won? >> that's an interesting question. i think that i might give a slight edge to hillary clinton because she kept talking about how bernie's proposals weren't realistic, but more's her problem in these debates. when she is giving the nuance of here's how we can improve the programs, i love president obama, bernie is talking about revolution, blaming the banks, going after the millionaires and billionaires. it's a such simpler message. >> i want to get your take on this. after the debate last night, dnc chair debbie wasserman schultz was asked by democrats why fox news won't be given a debate. >> you've had six debates so far, four more. how about letting the fox news
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team handle one of those? >> you know, we have a lot on our plate and i'm happy to be here with you on your network. there aren't a lot of democrats who come on. i always look forward to our conversations and look forward to sparring with you and some of your hosts all the way through the campaign. >> so you're saying there's a chance? >> i'm saying that i'm here, ready to talk to you about the issues and we'll do so all the way through this election cycle. >> what do you think, howard, is there a chance? >> here's my translation. fox news will get a democratic debate when hell freezes over. and it's a shame. because there are a lot of democrats and independents who watch this channel and would get a fair debate. >> research shows a quarter of the fox news audience are democrats. >> missed opportunity for the dems. >> howard, thank you. >> good to see you. some sharp new political ads
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♪ because a clinton never needs to explain ♪ >> what difference does it make? ♪ ♪ a clinton kills it off with a smile ♪ ♪ damn, it feels good to be a clinton ♪ ♪ damn, it feels good to be a clinton ♪ >> yeah! >> frank luntz is a pollster. i'm sure you've already seen this multiple times and you were still enjoying it. how did this one do?
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>> i'm thinking, i wonder if she did that to bill about 15 years ago when she found out about monica. all i could see with that is, ted cruz is brilliant to do this. this is -- the campaign has gotten much tougher. it's gotten much meaner. we're going to show some tough ads momentarily. here is a chance for republicans to laugh and for cruz to do exactly what chris christie had been doing, which is to take the fight to hillary clinton. this is so important for republicans, not to take their eye off the ball. they could end up destroying each other, and watching hillary clinton get elected. but not with ads like this. >> i want to get to this new donald trump ad. he's announced this new 30-second ad to be aired in the state of south carolina. it's an ad on illegal immigration. let's roll it. >> jeff shaw was a 17-year-old football star gunned down just outside of his home. his killer, an illegal immigrant gang member who just got out of
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prison. >> trump is the only one saying, you're going to be dealt with. we're going to enforce that. we're going to enforce that. that's a beautiful thing. i believe donald trump wants to make us great again, and he loves america. >> your take? >> beautiful. absolutely perfect. he's take an issue important to the republicans, he's adding a human component and telling a story many people have heard but more have not. and he's doing it right before the south carolina primary where this issue plays big time. of all the ads i've seen on immigration, this one is the most effective and it is proof that trump is putting together a full-fledged campaign that isn't just about debates or big speeches, it's about human drama. you've got to give this ad an "a." >> this next ad is an anti-trump ad, hitting trump on conservative values. watch this one.
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>> people love me. >> donald trump, look past the boasting and you'll see right through him. he supported partial birth abortions. his phony trump university accused of fraud. he tried to seize private property to line his own pockets. four bankruptcies and small businesses screwed over. poll after poll show him losing to hillary clinton. if trump wins, conservatives lose. >> this is a $12 million ad campaign launched in south carolina. your take on that? >> i want to separate this from jeb bush's campaign himself. jeb bush had his best debate the last debate up in new hampshire. very effective, very tough. talked about the issues. but this super pac on his behalf has repeatedly done the worst advertising. two reasons. number one, it looks political. it looks immediately like a
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negative ad. you have the dark voice and this visual that doesn't connect to anything. and second, it doesn't present anything as an alternative. it is simply a 30-second ad that attacks. if all the testing we've done for this show and the rest of fox news, ads like this fail completely. the fact that $12 million is going to be spent, i don't know what they're thinking up there. jeb bush is so much better than the campaign that's being wrapped around him. the donors have to be furious. and if i were jeb bush, i would be mad, as well. >> real quick, south carolina, your take on how things look in the state as we move forward? >> donald trump has a significant lead. not necessarily insurmountable, but if he wins in south carolina, he's absolutely headed towards the nomination. ted cruz, this is a much better state for him, but it's a greater evangelical vote than in new hampshire. i think cruz is headed towards a
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strong second. john kasich, his speech was the best speech of election night in new hampshire. if he can carry that through to the debate, people will pay attention to him. and i'm also looking at marco rubio. this is his chance at redemption in this debate on saturday, it will be very important to his performance. >> frank luntz, thank you. we're less than 24 hours now, the eyes of the world will be locked on the state of south carolina for the final gop debate before voters head to the polls. who has the most to lose and gain? that's next. at ally bank, no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like social media equals anti-social. hey guys, i want you to meet my fiancée, denise. hey. good to meet you dennis.
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the best returns aren't just measured in dollars. breaking tonight, the last big test before the next primary in south carolina. it's less than 24 hours away now. so what do the candidates need to do to show south carolinans they deserve the most important job on the planet? guy benson co-author of "end of discussion." guy, donald trump, what does he need to do? >> hey, sandra. happy friday. look. donald trump is in first place so he just needs to maintain.
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right? he doesn't have to do all that much in this debate. if he deflects to the fighting of other candidates, that benefits him the most. the fans generally appreciate and satisfied by everything he says and does and if he has a status quo debate, success for him. >> can anything hurt him? >> i'm not convinced anything can. right? he's sort of acknowledged this. he said jokingly i could shoot someone in the middle of manhattan and not lose me a vote and he's sort of right about that so i suppose there's something that he could do, really stumble in a bad way but if he turns in a typical performance for him, i think he's definitely in the driver's seat. >> ted cruz, what does he need to do? engaging in the back and forth with donald trump. donald trump we just went through it. the tweets he sent out today, it seems to just be a constant back an forth between cruz and trump. >> yeah. cruz has a more complicated task
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than trump does fighting a two-front battle. one level he has to come after trump and been going after trump in two ways, attacking the conservative credentials and trying to puncture the populist image, as well. that's a tough sell to negotiate that duel attack, if you will, on trump. meanwhile, marco rubio's down at the moment. cruz has to make sure that he stays down. so he'll be a very businessman tomorrow night. >> marco rubio, will there be a comeback performance there after a disappointing finish in new hampshire? >> i'd say there probably has to be. this is a bounce back moment for rubio. he has to perform well. typically he does at the debates. i think it is wise of him to make a tongue in cheek self department ri kating reference to the trouble at the last debate and get people laughing with him rath every than at him an move on, focus on the issues. he has the work cut out for him.
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trying to gain on the two leaders. >> that include repeating the same phrase a few times in the debate? >> i think, obviously, every candidate is scripted and messages that they want to drive home. you don't want to package it the same way over and over again. >> got it. >> rubio could say i made a point. i'll leave it again. >> i want to hit jeb bush, john kasich and dr. carson. >> yeah. ben carson has to make a case for why he is still in the race, frankly. john kasich with momentum out of new hampshire. he's got to build that case. jeb bush, feels like he might have a chance to break into the top three in south carolina. who's he going to attack? 's a fascinating play by the bush campaign. >> good stuff, guy benson, thank you. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. ♪
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all right. it's been a fun night. a lot of people tweeting us right now. tell us your thoughts on the show tonight. glad to have you. i'm sandra smith. this is "the kelly file." going to make america so great again. maybe greater than ever before. >> the political establishment has been taking a thrashing. >> that is not what democracy is about. that is whatt atal gar i can is about. >> and the voters are taking over. >> you need to let me speak or i will shut it down. get out of my face. >> what i learned about hillary, she is corrupt and lied a lot. that is it. i'm done. >> this hour, we'll look at how people are speaking out. >> i'm gay and i support


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