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anchored by my colleague, bret baier. that's it for today. happy valentine's day especially to lore rain and have a great week and we'll see you next "fox news sunday." at sunday. a south carolina slugfest gets shaken up by the death of scalia. the debate last night. >> just to be clear on this, you're okay with the president nominating somebody? >> i think he's going to do it whether i'm okay with it or not. i think it's up to mitch mcconnell and everybody else to stop it. it is called delay, delay, delay. donald trump traded punches with ted cruz and jeb bush after the new hampshire victory even the most hostile pundits couldn't deny. >> just seven days ago people were dancing on donald trump's grave. everybody was calling him loser. a lot of media people were saying it was the end.
>> donald trump, if it keeps up, is on his way to becoming the republican presidential nominee. look, let's give the devil his due. this was a crushing victory by donald trump. >> bernie sanders wants dismiss by the candidate and shah lacked hillary clinton. they kept insisting was inevitable. >> i'm blown away by the bernie sanders win tonight. >> this is not a good morning for hillary clinton, period. it simply isn't. she got creamed. >> hillary clinton no longer has the unbeatable campaign. >> and so many subplots. why are the trump haters doubling down? plus, trish reagan on the press and the culture of new hampshire and mary katherine hamm, what she brought to abc's republican debate as an unabashed conservative. >> the camera came on me. family and friends are extremely nervous for me aim even going to look so relaxed that they'll
stop being nervous. >> i'm howard kurtz and this is "media buzz." >> it's worth recalling how many journalist dismiss the chances eight months ago. >> i think this is donald trump's bigst day and ignored from hence forth. >> trump krounsed the other candidates in new hampshire this week and they were not exactly gracious. new york's daily news which called him dead clown walking after his second place finnish iowa came back with dawn of the brain dead blaming the state's mindless zombies. they had this screamer, new hampshire goes racist. sexist, xenophobic. the website sliming the state's voters. with the action shifting to this saturday's south carolina primary with chris christie and carly fiorina dropping out, they tried to pin down the candidates in last night's debates and
there were fists to cuffs. >> in an interview with wolf blitzer talking about president bush's conduct for the war, you said you were surprised the democratic leader nancy pelosi didn't try to impeach him. you said, "which personally i think would have been a wonderful thing". >> as a businessman, i get along with everybody. >> i'm sick and tired of him going after my family. my dad is the greatest man alive in my mind. >> joining us is our panel. i'm looking at some of the headlines about the debate, heidi. trump turned night a cage match. he bludgeoned in a debate. trump a loser. is it reflecting the nakt many in the media are waiting for a chance to attack donald trump? >> think of the whole narrative
coming out of the debates from the beginning. it's been jeb going in there and trying but utterly failing to defend himself and so this time we saw a totally different jeb. he is defending himself and going on the offense. new narrative. everyone jumped all over that. it don't know fit was completely fair as well, just because trump loses the cool doesn't mean that he loses it with his voters. his voters like. that that's been kind of his selling point from the beginning. he is hangry, right? >> let's take a look at one of those angrier moments. donald trump and ted cruz and we'll come back on the other side. >> for most of his like, his policies have been very, very liberal. for most of his life, he's described himself as very pro-choice and as a supporter of partial birth abortion. right now today as a candidate, he supports federal taxpayer funding for planned parenthood. i disagree with him on that. that's a matter of principle and -- >> you are a liar. you're probably worse than jeb bush. you are the single biggest liar.
>> a lot of boos there from the crowd. it occurs to me this is not the fif first time where the press said he did terribly and then -- >> let's make this clear this is south carolina. they're fighting over who's going to win south carolina right now. everybody knew, expectations going into south carolina was this was going to be a bloodbath. all the various strategists made clear it was going to get ugly. did it last night. interestingly enough, trump said again, another fabrication talking about, no, he didn't say he didn't support taxpayer funding for planned parenthood. he has done that so many times. and what is interesting to me this is a show about media. there is not a clear catalog yet as to how many times trump has been proven to be truthful dead to right.
you have china saying he would slap a 130 30% tax on a tariff. you have mccain calling him a loser. these are instances where i think can you go through and catalog these carefully and brightly and have it clearly understood that trump has seriously challenged when it comes to being frank and honest. >> what surprised me, simon, is trump that talked about george w. bush in 9/11 saying that bush administration lied and knew that there was weapons of mass destruction. certainly there were no weapons of mass destruction. so do you think the press is being a little harsh on trump here? >> what is interesting as you pointed out, after almost every debate, they said did he a terrible job, he is borish, he swears, he is not fit to be president. and then there is one poll last night that showed him coming in second place in terms of republican voters. look, he's got a very strong core of 25%, 30%, 35% now in every state. there is a poll in south carolina that has him over 40%.
those folks are staying with him every step of the way. the problem is that the medium -- the lane for the moderates is so divided now that he continues to roll ahead. so he had a good night last night. i don't think anything derailed him from winning south carolina last night. >> and, of course, trump is running against the media. he is running against national review and sometimes fox and the fact that some commentators say he's gone too far in this, that, or the other statement or debate seems to roll off him. >> it seems to roll off him. and every single time we've called it it's been because he does something that's maybe offensive to the general election, lekt rat. fwhut time i think why people are seeing this as different he is made talking points where actually democratic talking points arguably going in there and going so aggressively against the bushes calling them liars in the war an also defending planned parenthood. i think he even saw himself,
bh whoa, i went too far. most work is providing women's health sfervices. by that point he was on the record defending planned pirnthood. the difference here is that if he did step over the line and we see that in the polls, it wasn't because of his temperament. it is because went over and veered into sounding more like a democrat. >> before i move on, what do you make of the huffington post, for example, saying new hampshire has gone racist and sexist because the majority of the voters -- a plurality voted for donald trump in this week's primary. >> "huffington post" is on the record that they're going to cover donald trump a different way than the restst media. they were covering him in the entertainment section until recently. i'm not surprised by it. i think for the demographic, you know, mostly reading "the huffington post" that, is going to get a lot of clicks. >> i want to turn to marco rubio. after the previous debate in new hampshire when he used the same
scripted language and those exchanges for chris christie got a lot of bad press. he started to do a lot of interviews. here's one did he with john carl. >> in hindsight, you know, maybe i made a mistake. i shouldn't have done it that way. what did it is moved me to a message that pivoted away from the question and led to the percep tried to evade it. >> i underestimated the impact of that debate on rubio. on the other hand, he had three days of just being called every name in the book by the press. how much did that hurt him? i think he did a good job. r rubio didn't get tackled. he needed to do tackling. he didn't need to just do a good job. he needed to be above that. >> isn't it interesting that marco rubio held a press conference on the plane, he is giving a lot of interviews. when the candidates get in trouble suddenly accessibility
to the journalists opens up. they feel like they need the press to get a message out? >> clearly, rubio completely changed the strategy. he had a devastating day through that debate. these beats are very consequential. one thing we have to learn and take away is that these debates really matter and trump, for example, people make fun of trump, but he's interesting. he's entertaining, right? that's part of politics. we can't dismiss that. these other politicians, many of them are boring, right? and so trump is really able to redefine the terms of a presidential candidate in a digit aal and media age. >> rubio's strongest moments have been debates. he's been plaraised for those. >> i want to close by talking about the breaking news last night, the death of antonin
scalia at 79, the supreme court justice who is leader of the conservative wing of the court and major public figure. i find it zpudisturbing that 20 minutes after we learned he died this debate broke out about, you know, would president obama get a chance to replace him? would the senate block that? what are your thoughts? >> certainly there's been public figures who died in the age of social media, but none that would be this consequential and the context of such a heated presidential election. this really was a social media phenomenon. it wasn't necessarily the mainstream news organizations pushing out, you know, fully formed articles. it was people like david axelrod saying this is earth shattering. that gets the cavalry going. and, yeah, it was shocking that it would happen so quickly. i don't think we even know the cause of death yet. usually you wait for that. >> to reflect on his life, wouldn't you agree? it just out the window. your thoughts? >> exactly.
what i found fascinating and troubling about the slow leak out that he passed away was that there were local news affiliates that broke the news first. and the national media circled around that for a good half hour, 45 minutes trying to determine whether the local news outlets were right. we're talking about an abc news affiliate in san antonio and people weren't necessarily going to believe it. and now i'm beginning to wonder unless it happens and ap reports it, it doesn't happen at all. >> in terms of -- that's a great point about who's trusted by other journalists. in terms of the political back and forth now on mitch mcconnell said he's not going to vote in a nominee, can you tell me that if this was a republican president, wouldn't conservative commentary say he should get his nominee. if this was a democratic controlled senate, they would take the other side. >> well, in some ways, howard, but the truth is the controversial thing is what mcconnell did, right? there is nothing controversial about the president saying i have an obligation to fill a vacancy of the supreme court.
i mean this is part of what happens. it's been going on for hundreds of years. the controversial thing and the thij th thing that caused the media storm is mitch mcconnell jumping in with incredible politics last night saying we're going to block this thing. >> harry reid controlled the senate and not going to give george w. bush a vote, would you say the same thing? >> that's not happened before. there is no precedent with what happened to mitch mcconnell last night. we voted him in ronald reagan's last year to put -- so the controversial part, mcconnell should have waited and should have allowed there to be a decent interval. i think he blew it last night. >> much more media coverage of this in the week ahead. i'll have more to say about antonin scalia later. with hillary in trouble after new hampshire, why dlt media dismiss bernie sanders for so long? trish reagan on why the media go haywire over new hampshire, her home state.
i can tell through is nothing quite like what reporters go through in the first of the nation prime airy. joining me is trish reagan who anchored the intelligence report on fox business. let's start with last night's cbs debate. you and sandra smith moderated two presidential debates. how do you think cbs did? >> you know, i think it was challenging for him. i think that there were times where he might have been a little bit overwhelms. it's not easy. i mean, you're trying to corral all these big personalities, big egos. and with each and every debate, the stakes, howie, they keep getting higher and higher. so i think what we saw was a little bit of him trying to
struggle to keep the things moving on. you got to keep moving to the next subject. it's part of your duty effectively to your viewer to not let them duke it out too long. you know, a little bit of that is good, right? it's good theater. you want to make sure you keep moving the conversation forward. >> right. well, that's the question. dickerson asked a lot of good questions. i heard some people say he lost control. if ted cruz and donald trump are going at it over who lied about this or that or donald trump and jeb bush are going at it, why not let that go on for a while snt audience gets to see these guys go toe to toe and how they hand will the incoming. >> yeah. i mean there's a certain part of that theater that you want. the danger is that you can get mired in all this mudslinging and it becomes a bit of a circus. while you may want some circus because it's entertaining and maybe you'll get something out of it, you also want to make sure you're hitting enough issues and you're keeping things moving forward.
at some point, you know, the viewer is like okay, enough. it's too much. you know, look, we say this all the time in cable news, you may have a series of guest that's come on and they start fighting and you got -- you got to know whether to say enough is enough. >> all right. i'm saying enough. we're going to move on. and there is no audience to cheer and boo as there was at south carolina debate. so having grown up in new hampshire, what is it about the state, the culture and that primary where it's just paradise for reporters this time of year? >> you know? one of the best things about new hampshire is that it's just so small. right? so you have an opportunity as a candidate, howie, to get out and literally shake everyone's hand. you can make your way back and forth across the state. and this is what the candidates did. kasich did this incredibly well. and that's why he got that second place showing. >> right. >> the reporters, can you get in the rental car and drive between new hampshire and concord and get everything in 30 minutes and
seat candidates up close. >> yeah. the reporters, it's wonderful because everything is within a short distance. and there's an accessibility in new hampshire both from a journalist perspective and from an actual residents perspective that you don't have in other places and in other races. so that's part of what makes new hampshire special. also, as a journalist going out and talking to the people, i mean, this is one of the things that i enjoy so much because they take that responsibility of vetting these candidates very, very seriously. so they spent a lot of time looking at all the candidates and all the issues and they'll tell you because they're very frank and frank new englanders exactly how they feel. >> all right. got about half a minute. the whole rational for a small and unrepresentative state having the first primary after the iowa caucuses is because of this sort of emphasis on retail campaigning. but donald trump didn't do the thing at a lot of big town halls. he had a rally and television
campaign. did that undercut it, you think, the role that new hampshire plays? >> i think so to a certain extent it did. it is amazing how he was able to fly into my little hometown. he had 5,000 people show up in hampton, new hampshire to hear him speak. that is a lot. 5,000 is a lot. he was able to hold the big rallies, get in, get out. it is a different style. you know, this is a very different year, as you well know. and he's a different kind of candidate. and regardless of not being there and having the cop coffee at mrs. smith's house, he galvanized all the voters. >> different outcome. trish regan, great to see you. >> good to see you, howie. any time. >> ahead, the media uproar over glor gloria stein hamm. first, chris matthews slimes ted kroourz.
in our media microscope, a major change in the new hampshire primary. major outlets in the three days before tuesday's prime airy. and donald trump very much sharing the spotlight with his rivals. here we see 6300 mentions for trump but more than 4500 for marco rubio who had all that buzz out of iowa. 2800 for bush, that's a step up. ted cruz with 2600 and john kasich, 1400. now look at wednesday through friday after the primary. trump is huge again, more than 8,000 media mentions. that's more than twice as much as any other candidate. cruz is next up with about 3200 media mentions. kasich rising to third place with over 3,000. lots of chatter after his second place showing in new hampshire. jeb is over here at 2700. and rubio after the disappointing showing in new
hampshire, sinks to under 2500. the biggest changes in sent. look at this. positive in green, negative in red. donald trump was 57% negative coverage in the runup to primary. that's the best he's been in our data. just to 64% negative as the other candidates startd banging up on him. marco rubio was 72% negative before the prime airy. the press hammered over his robotic debate performance. he improved a little bit since then, 68% negative. jeb bush was at 69% negative before the primary. that now jumped to 76% negative. he is much more in the line of fire. chris matthews loves to bash republicans. but on msnbc he got shockingly harsh towards ted cruz. >> there is a troll like quality to cruz. he operates below the level of human life. >> okay, chris. >> no, really. >> you have not gotten sleep. we're going to try that again. >> can i not have an opinion?
>> not that opinion, no. >> below the level of human life. that is too much even for joe scarborough. matthews can be as passionate as he wants, but he really needs to stay away from this talk. another sad chapter in why the press is too close to hillary. they once took dictation from hillary clinton's long time spokesman while she was secretary of state. according to e-mails, journalists were told that he could get an oorly cop yif her speech for the council on foreign relations, a mini scoop, if he described it on his own as muscular, reported the top u.s. envoys will be seated in front of her and didn't say he was being blackmailed. he followed those orders and described the muscular address, letting aflack choose the adjectives, really? the whole thing made him uncomfortable then and now. and for good reason. next on "meeza bu "media buzz," clinton manages to catch women voters. and a conservative commentator's
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bernie sanders jumped in the race against hillary clinton. he was a dark horse at cnn, a long shot said "the new york times" and dems to bernie, fat chance. even as he was drawing big crowds and raising huge sums, one study found abc's "world news tonight" gave donald trump will 81 minutes through the first 11 minutes months of last year, bernie sanders, 20 seconds. the two face off days later in a pbs debate. >> given what you're proposing, expanding government in almost every area of our lives, is it fair for americans who fear government to fear you? >> no. but it is absolutely fair and necessary for americans to vet both of our proposals. >> so race relations would be
better under a sanders presidency than they've been? >> absolutely. because what we will do is say instead of giving tax breaks to billionaires, we are going to create millions of jobs for low-income kids so that they're not hanging out on street corners. >> and we're back with the panel. everyone in the media expected hillary to lose new hampshire. i'm not sure many expected her to lose female voters by 11 points. has the press overestimated hillary clinton as a candidate? >> no, but they certainly underestimate bernie sanders. he's been extraordinary. and as a republican, someone who is supporting jeb bush, watching how this is playing out is really, just collecting strength, quite frankly. both of them are looking imminently beatable come the fall. >> i went to a rally in new hampshire. the crowd was pumped up. then she started to talk about tax incentives and programs and proposal and her message is about, you know, the government and all the nuances and bernie
is talking about revolution. so do you think the press needs to wake up to the sanders phenomenon and take it more seriously? people say, there is no way he'll win the nomination. >> people are saying that about trump. the thing that amazes me about bernie is the campaign is strong. they're raising money. they're doing savvy media things. this is not a one sided campaign any longer. they're holdinging their own. it's going to be hard now for the media to cover the race the way they were, we're moving into over 20 states. you know, there is only one more english language debate between march 15th on the democratic side. the media is going to get challenged in how they cover a really competitive race on the democratic side. >> hillary clinton has done selective tv. about she hasn't had a press conference with the reporters that trofl with her for two months z that create tension with the press corps? >> absolutely. because, you know, that's -- it's a phenomenon just within our little world of the press
because the outside world you see she's doing local media. she's taking a page from trump and calling him to the talk shows. in terms of the little bubble that we all live in, these are people who travel with her day in and day out. they're sacrificing a lot of personal time. it's hard not to feel a little slighted if she's, you know, yelling at her and she won't take your questions. and it's very different, i saw when bill clinton comes out, granted he's not a candidate anymore. but like if you shout at him, he'll respond you to. he'll answer your questions. i think there is also a concern among the clintons, you know, with trump's kind of going there and kind of bill clinton's sexual history and some of the right-wing press. you never know who's going to be in a gag vote. they start yelling the questions and then everybody picks it up and it's kind of splashed against the headlines. i think the clintons have an extra layer of kind of like wanting to buffer themselves. >> looking back, with the media short sided and deciding in advance that a 74-year-old
socialist who wasn't even a democrat was not going to be a viable candidate. and what about, you know, sanders wants free college and free health care, raise taxes on middle class which he says will save on the insurance premiums, has there been enough exploration by the press of his position? >> it's so funny. listening yto you and simon tal, can you insert trump and it's the same phenomenon. >> you see it as a parallel universe? >> yes. they are candidates from the outside. neither of which have been exposed to the media scrutiny that a typical either republican or democrat more establishment candidate would. >> trump became a phenomenon and there are a lot of negative media stories and analysis of where he stands. it seems to just fly off him because his supporters don't care. >> i fundamental by disagree. trump had four bankruptcies. >> his companies have. >> i haven't seen the front page
pieces of what those meant in terms of the court filings and who didn't get paid. also, we haven't looked specifically how many people have been fired by the man as he tried to save his own neck going through the bankruptcies and not used any of his own personal wealth to help ensure that people's lives who he employed were better off in the end. >> bringing it back to bernie, it seemed to me that if everyone in the press thought that he might well win this democratic nomination, you have very intense, deep dive stuff. some people have obviously dipped in on all of the trillions of dollars of the spending that he is proposing and all of. that i know you're a supporter of hillary, but they've got to be frustrated that the press is not doing, giving sanders the sort of, you know, viable candidate scrutiny. >> there are two pieces to. that the republican campaign did a terrible job in their opposition research against trump. the media doesn't do all this on their own. they get help from the campaigns. the clinton campaign never really -- i also think took sanders seriously. they didn't see it as a serious race. they weren't leading reporters to certain stories.
that's all changing now. bernie is under unbelievable scrutiny. there is more rough stuff about him the last week. but there is also good things about, you know, his civil rights history. we're learning more about him. some of it is very positive, frankly. some of it is rough for him. this is a very different stage. very different stage in the democratic campaign. >> the dnc originally set six debates some on saturday nights and holiday weekends. now she wants more debates because she's in a race of four quickly been added. let me ask about your reporting. it was bill clinton who took a whack at sanders' supporters and the sexist things they say online, the bernie bros. when you were campaigning, did you run into any bros? >> i ran into people who were directly running head on into bernie bros. there was a first party gathering in new hampshire. and inside you saw some of the atmospherics of the bernie bros and supporters in general booing some of the female guests. outside, it got really ugly.
i don't think a lot of people knew. this this is why the clintons at that particular time were incensed, what was happening in the online taunting came out on to the streets. it was all men getting in the face of hillary supporters using some of these words that we've seen and that i won't repeat online. and so it comes into vivid color outside. >> censor that for now. i thank my panel very much. we'll see you in a few moments. mary katherine ham on the pressure of joining abc's presidential debate while taking her new baby. later, the journalist hillary a. wright's story.
media erupted with a new debate about fen inism and politics after madeleine albright did this for hillary clinton. >> there is a special place in hell for women who don't help each other. >> and gloria steinem fueling the flames by saying young working women have anal tearer mo -- have a motive. >> heidi, madeleine albright
apologized in an op-ed. what was it about those words that struck such a nerve particularly in younger women? >> this whole debate exposed what is a fenniminism generatio gap. madeleine albright, i saw an older lady who had the signature line that she was out of the public eye for a while. she was resurrecting it for a few laughs and did not see the media storm hitting her. for younger women, seeing this for the first time, they said this is a reprimand. this is not only a rep remanld but in terms of the kmenlcommen this is insulting my intelligence. hillary clinton build her whole campaign over running overtly on women's issues. in a way she didn't last. they thought okay this is basically coming out and saying what they really think which is we should vote for her just because she's a woman. that is not what she said. >> did you run into albright? >> i did in the greenroom. this is a woman who had really
legitimate reasons for coining that phrase. and she has been through the mill. it is insulting to suggest that is the only thing women should consider. is this a whole different experience for that you we're so far beyond thor raf the the era the 1970s, boys on the bus. >> i'm here for the girls on the bus and during the transition period. i think it is a different experience. seeing that story confirmed what i was feeling, intuitively and prior to that, they had done -- there had been a political story of just all the women covering hillary clinton's campaign.
i juks pose that with my days of covering the white house under george w. bush where most of the pool, the reporters that travel with the president were all men. it was a real handicap in my case that i just can't myself interested in sports. there was always kind of sports analogies and nicknames and locker room chatter. >> yeah. and it's changed so dramatically within a couple of cycles. >> is it unfair to say look at all these women covering hillary. are they going to give her some kind of a break? >> that was some of the criticism that was underneath the picture of all of us women covering hillary clinton. i was shokd because since the beginning of time it's been an all male press corps covering male candidates. and no one would ever think to level that kind of criticism. it was the first time it occurred to me we would give her preferential treatment especially considering the
are you contank rouse? >> i he can press myself vividly. those criticisms are crit sichlz of opinions not my colleague. >> the press loved antonin scalia, he was good copy. he died yesterday. he was fierce and skillful. when judges write in dense language he voted to uphold flag wearing as free speech but said he would put them in jail. >> when the kai high court ruled for same sex marriage he said
giving that kind of power to nine judges doesn't institute a democracy. >> this conservative fire friend was chummy with the left leaning media world. he was on the georgetown party circuit, happy to crack jokes and discuss issues. i last chatted with him and katie curic at last year's white house soerndent's dinner. he loved the spot looet and would have loved all the coverage of his passage. aren't anyone scalia, dead at 79. thank you for tuning in. we hope you like your facebook page. we post a lot of original content. media duz @fox news.com. also remember to d krrks vr the show so we get ratings out of
it. and in the middle of this campaign, next week we'll have the south carolina results the night before we compton air. wo remembering a legal icon. welcome to this special look back at the long and distinguished career of supreme court justice antonin scalia who passed away yesterday while on vacation in texas. i'm shannon bream in washington. he had been an anchor for conservative wing for nearly three decades. his sudden death raises questions in the midst of the supreme court term packed with hot button issues -- abortion, affirmative action, and the president's use of executive power. through every decision scalia remained true to his judicial fill philosophy. >> originalism says that when you consult the