tune in tomorrow for the gop south carolina primary and nevada democratic caucus results. we'll be on their 6:00 to 10:00 as the numbers come in. who will win south carolina? what about nevada? join us tomorrow. welcome to "hannity" in beautiful, charleston, south carolina, two town halls tonight. ted cruz and marco rubio and a few special guests. "hannity" starts right here, right now. senator, good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> tomorrow's a big day. >> yeah. >> you won iowa by a -- by a historic margin. you spent less than most candidates and came in third in new hampshire. >> yep. >> and there's a pl out this morning that shows you within five points and taking south carolina. [ cheers and applause ] from your perspective, tell us
about the state of the race. >> well, listen. i think people of south carolina, they want a conservative as our next president. and, you know, iowa was interesting. as you recall, the week before iowa every pundit, every pollster said, we couldn't win. i remember watching your show sunday night. >> by the way, not talking about. >> not talking about you. but sean had six experts on and two panels and said who will win, trump, trump, trump, trump, trump, trump. >> you're right. >> and now you had the wisdom not to chime in on that but everyone else did. >> thank you for saving me from this crowd. >> but the next day, when the results came in, it was extroitd their what we saw in iowa. we saw, number one, record shattering turnout. but number two, not only did we win by a big margin, but we won conservatives, we won ev evangelic evangelicals, we won reagan
democrats and we won young people. it was that old reagan coalition. we ended up getting more votes than any republican in the history of the iowa caucus. >> by far. by far. you know, before you came out, senator, i was talking to this crowd and i hope i speak for you but i'm worried more than i've ever been in my adult life that we're losing the american dream. >> yeah. >> we have nearly -- 95 million americans out of the labor force. it's not been this high since the 1970s. 50 million americans in poverty. millions more than when obama took the presidency. 46 million americans on food stamps. i think people of south carolina, i know you hear about the horse race and see negative ads. just, you can clap if you want, do you care about those americans more than these ads and you want to get the americans back to work and -- [ applause ] how do we do that and how quickly can it happen? what is the prescription to -- >> well, look.
the stakes are the same. we're both parents. we love our kids and we're scared, you know, i mean, you have gotten to meet my girls, care line and katherine. they're 7 and 5. thank god they look like their mother. but, you know, i wake up every day scared for what kind of world those girls are inheriting. >> yes. >> in we keep doing what we're doing, we are risking losing the greatest country in the world, seeing the constitutional rights stripped away, seeing economic opportunity stripped away. 65% of americans believe that our kids will have a worse life than we did. >> that's scary. that's never happened before by the way. >> in the history of this country, maybe the most un-american idea you can imagine. and what gets me -- out of bed every morning, leap out of bed every morning is what all of us are doing is we are fighting to get back to the principles that built america, the free market principles and the constitutional liberties.
[ applause ] >> i told the audience beforehand that this is not another cable channel. they're free to clap whenever they want. okay? how do we get there? i think that we have got to have a plan. >> yeah. >> you have a plan. >> very detailed. >> the americans out of the poverty and back in the labor force. tell us how we get there and how fast. >> look. cause and effect matters. it is easy to say make america great again. that's easy to say. you can put it on a baseball cap. but the question is, do you understand what it was that made america great in the first place? [ cheers and applause ] and what made this country great is, number one, we began with the understanding of a revolutionary understanding this our rights don't come from government. instead, the declaration put it we hold these truths to be self
evident. they are endowed by their creator. [ applause ] >> we have some -- all true. >> that notion, that understanding that our unalienable rights, the rights the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, don't come from the government or king or queen and not from president obama, that was a revolutionary idea. and our constitutional liberties, free speech, religious liberty, the second amendment, those are fundamental rights and with justice scalia's passing, every one of those is in jeopardy right now. >> let me ask this. i think this is really important. we've done -- president obama when he leaves office will double the debt or accumulate more debt than any every president before him. talk about the plan to get news a better position back to those
principles sigh the only thing strong enough to turn around the debt is economic growth. economic growth is my number one priority as senator and as president. because economic growth is foundational to everything else. without growth, we can't solve any of these problems, unemployment, the debt, rebuilding the military, restoring and strengthening social security and medicare. and the keys to growth if you look back, if you understand how america became who we are today, the keys to growth are tax reform and regulatory reform. every time government does what it's doing, hammers small businesses, we get what we got now which is misery and stagnation and malaise. small businesses are the heart of the economy and so -- [ applause ] >> right. you're right. >> and so, the two key pillars of my economic plan are regulatory reform and tax reform. regulatory reform, the most
important regulatory reform. we are going to repeal every single word of obamacare. [ applause ] i think they agree with you. >> and then tax reform real quick, sean. tax reform, we are going to pass a simple flat tax and abolish the irs. >> how important, i agree with you about obamacare. always liked the flat tax. a great idea and the fair tax in fairness. >> yeah, yeah. i'm a big fair tax fan, as well. >> how many years would it take for america to be energy independent? this is a part of your platform. >> millions of high-paying jobs. coming to energy, we ought to pursue all of the above, oil and gas and coal and nuclear and bio fuels. everything but washington shouldn't be picking winners and
losers. [ applause ] >> you did take a courageous position on ethanol in iowa. >> sean, it was extraordinary. i was the only candidate that went there and campaigned four square against the ethanol man tate. i have to tell you -- [ applause ] >> five years, done. >> everyone said that was political suicide. that's like campaigning in south carolina on a mandate that south carolinans all have to wear new york yankees jerseys. i'm not doing that, by the way. that is not my position. although i'm told it is trump's position. but look. everyone said this is suicide. and in fact, my two leading opponents, trump and marco rubio, both attacked me and promised more corporate welfare, more cronyism. in fact, one of them, donald said not only continue it but expand the ethanol mandate for
more cronyism. and then the sitting governor of iowa, a republican, openly came out against me, said to the people of iowa, vote for anybody but cruz. the other guys, they'll keep the cronyism going. this guy believes this stuff and he will end the picking winners and losers. >> yeah. we have a lot to get to. we'll talk about immigration, we have to talk about how to defeat isis. >> yeah. >> a lot on the agenda tonight. we have a few special guests, though. and you just got moments before we came out on the stage here a big endorsement. somebody well-known in the great state of south carolina. former governor of the state. governor mark sanford is here. there he is. >> my only question is simple.
i think you have a few fans here. >> you just came out of endorsed senator cruz. tell us why. >> real simple. the things you were just talking about a moment ago. which is that the constitution matters. too much of what we have seen in this race, i watched a special last night on cnn, i shouldn't mention that station. >> can you believe that? boo. >> anyway, it just struck me it's gotten out of balance. when you have folks criticizing this guy for what he said on sending, when you have folks saying it doesn't matter what, you know, what the constitution says but what i think. the beauty is the constitution matters not one things but the constitution prescribes. and if my strong belief, sean, the you won't say it in iowa, you are not saying it in washington. so what struck me about ted is the fact he came out against the
ethanol subsidies. all too few people will. these are fighters right here. we need another fighter in washington in the oval office on that very front. [ applause ] >> that's the short version. i can give you much more. >> you can. governor mark sanford. thank you. all right. i feel like we should do a game show because we have our next surprise guest. you've heard of the popular tv show "duck dynasty"? let's give a warm south carolina welcome straight from louisiana, the patriarch of the robertson family, phil robertson. >> "hannity," some little chick
said we need to go to hair and maybeup. i said hannity does that kind of stuff. not me. get out of my face. >> tell us -- you can move in closer for the tv shot here and tell us, you have come out strongly for ted cruz. you put him in camo which made a lot of news. tell us why. >> sometimes it's better to be harder to see than at other times. i'm for cruz because you see this in my hand? [ cheering ] south carolina! bibles and guns brought us here. [ cheers ] and it will be bibles and guns that keep us here and this man believes in both. >> phil robertson, thank you, sir. [ applause ]
all right. we have got one more surprise for you. and then i got to take a break. y'all listen to the radio? how many radio listeners we have here? you can clap. people at home can't see. all right. here's a guy on before me, you might have heard of him. his name is rush limbaugh. okay. his brother is a "the new york times" best selling author and columnist, a warm south carolina for mr. david limbaugh. [ applause ] i'm asking you the same, you have come out, endorsed the senator. tell us. >> i was and did this quite a while ago. america is at a crossroads. we face multiple existential threats. no exaggeration. we are on the brink of collapse. we have maybe one last chance to save america. my five kids, the future, so
they can live in liberty and prosperity like our parents did and like we have. we have one solution for this. one remedy and that is to restore america's founding principles. timeless constitutional principles. [ applause ] there is some good other candidates running and only one authentic, strong, constitutionalist reagan conservative across the board. the closest thing we have to ronald reagan in my lifetime. the most brilliant guy i have ever met in this arena and there's another thing about him. not only is he -- is he an authentic believer in america's constitutional principles and founding principles, he's demonstrates that he will do what he promised to do when he gets in office and fulfills the promises. this is the last best chance we have to take it.
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immigration. border security is national security. we have seven years of a president that refuses to secure the border and sadly what we have seen is that washington doesn't want to do this. democrats don't want to do this because they support illegal immigration. >> sure. >> there's a new politically term for illegal immigrants. >> that is? >> undocumented democrats. [ applause ] >> i almost felt like the liberal media. i fell into the trap. go ahead. >> but the problem is also they're far too many establishment republicans that support amnesty, as well. that don't want to secure the borders because they view it all as cheap labor. i have got on the website tedcruz.org a detailed immigration plan, 11 pages. drafted it with jeff sessions and steve king and we will secure the border, build a wall. by the way, i have someone in mind to build it. we're going to triple the border patrol. increase four fold the fixed
wing and rotary wing unit. we are going to end sanctuary cities by cutting off taxpayer money to all of them. >> let me -- when the national director of intelligence james clapper and our fbi director james comey and general john allen, the envoy to defeat isis all say that isis will infiltrate the refugee population, that's scary. why take in one person? >> it is lunacy and starting in january 2017 we are not going to be admitting refugees that may be infiltrated from isis. it doesn't make any sense. >> okay. now, we are going to go, we have some people in the audience that want to ask questions. i forgot to tell everybody, david limbaugh is my attorney. full disclosure. i'm sure the media would jump on that. let's come up the first person
and introduce you. come on up. how are you doing? what is your name? >> bradford franklin. >> there you go. perfect. say hi to senator cruz. >> welcome. >> step in. there you go. >> senator does cruz, the national debt is spiraling out of debt. you talked about the plan to overhaul the military and increase the strength. how can we be sure to increase the military strength but make sure that the national debt doesn't continue to spiral out of control? >> bradford, it is a great question and we face the challenges before. if you look at the last time the country had a badly degraded military, the last time we had a weak democratic president, it was 1980, jimmy carter. and what did reagan do? he started with tax reform and regulatory reform. i was talking with sean a few minutes ago about repealing obamacare and passing a simple
flat tax. trillions of dollars flowed in to the federal government. reagan used the trillions of dollars to rebuild the military and that in turn bankrupted the soviet union and won the cold war. [ applause ] >> that answer your question? >> so i intend to do the exact same thing with radical islamic terrorism. if we repeal obamacare, pass a flat tax and abolish the irs, we will see jobs exploding, see small butzs growing, wages going up, young people coming out of school having three, four, five job offers and at the same time -- [ applause ] we will have a military, i rolled out here in south carolina earlier this week, the most comprehensive aggressive plan to rebuild the military, the army, the air force, the navy, the marines to utterly destroy isis. >> thank you. >> thank you.
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welcome back to beautiful charleston, south carolina. it is "hannity." we are on the road. and a very fun, lively crowd. let's give a warm south carolina welcome to ted cruz's better half, heidi cruz is on stage with us. [ applause ] >> thank you. >> you know, this is just the history of south carolina politics. it is a blood sport down here. it's got to be hard for you to -- i've been watching, every time watching a tv show here, every single commercial, ad after ad after ad is harsh. is it hard? >> thank you for asking that question. it can be a tough sport and when
did ted doesn't take attacks personally and he knows what he is doing, he's principled and he knows that he is telling the truth, it really rolls off the wife when the candidate is not too stressed. >> we are talking earlier -- >> [ applause ] >> you look at isis, the iranian deal and drives me insane, you look at all of the people out of work, poverty, food stamps and then you have a 7-year-old and 5-year-old little daughter. isn't really elections about them and that we want the leave america better than we inherited it? >> absolutely. the reason that ted decided to run in 2016 is because he knows that what washington is doing is not working, the system's broken, washington's ignoring the american people and that has huge implications for the future generation. the reason we are in this race is for our two daughters. but also for all the other kids. >> i want to interview them. >> they would love to.
one would love it. >> i think we get smarter answers than the president is doing. that's my own humble opinion. >> you'll get it honestly. >> quickly, sean, caroline 3 or 4 impressed with the sean hannity show. >> wow. >> which is, if you remember during the whole occupy wall street nonsense, and the protesters were there and they were, if you recall, defecating on the public streets. >> i remember. >> we had a discussion on your show and i made a comment object the show, i said, listen. even our 4-year-old understands not to poop in public. and when i came home, caroline said, daddy said poop on television. she thought it was the coolest thing she'd ever seen. >> i want to ask you one thing. you look at one poll that really stands out in my mind that 60%
of republicans feel betrayed by washington republicans. i've said it many times. i'm one of them. in the final 30 seconds we have, tell the audience both on tv and here in charleston how that's not going to happen if you're elected. >> look. we have been burned too many times before. over and over again, we win elections. the people go to washington, they don't do what they say and i think what the people of south carolina looking for is a prooun conservative. with justice skal why's passing, people of south carolina asking who do i know beyond a shadow of a doubt appoint principles constitutionalists to protect the bill of rights, the second amendment for our kids and grand kids? [ applause ] >> thank you so much. choose world.
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welcome back to "hannity" as we come to you live in charleston, south carolina. and -- [ cheers and applause ] wow! you know, senator marco rubio's with us. how you all doing, charleston? you all right? you know, i've asked you a couple of times if, you know, this gets tiring, four, five, six, seven cities a day, meetings and interviews between that. this is kind of fun. >> absolutely. this is what drives you. they came out of work early or had a long day and able to be part of the event and fired up about america's future knowing they'll play an important role starting tomorrow in changing an away from the obama agenda and getting this country back on the right track. [ applause ]
>> let me ask one question. how many of you feel on a scale of 1 to 10 and you can applaud, i'll ask you 10 that you're worried about the country, the economy, the state of the world? are you all worried about that? right? senator, everywhere i go so many people are concerned. you got 95 million americans out of the labor force. doubling of the debt. median income down. >> that's why people know something is going wrong here. this feels different. this is an effort by barack obama to change america. he wants to make it more like the rest of the world. i say that too often and criticize me. it's the truth. this is what's happening here. we have had presidents before that have been bad but nothing like this. this is a real effort to make america more like another country. we want to be america again. >> i did not disagree with your comment that -- i never
disagreed. i actually believe this is by design. this is -- you know, back in 2007 and 2008 i as a conservative tried to warn the country that i thought thiss mo knew and so i believe it's by design. some of your fellow candidates disagreed with you about it. >> obamacare was not an answer. dodd-frank was not an accident. apologizing for america's not an accident. gutting our military is not a dent. these unconstitutional executive orders were not by accident. it is part of a process to make america more like another country. we won't let that happen. that's why 2016 is so important. >> so, with all of these americans and i really -- every time you throw out 95 million, 50 million, 46 million, we forget these are our friends, our neighbors, our family, fellow americans really suffering, really struggling. how do we get these people back to work and out of poverty and
off of food stamps? how do you get there? >> first do what they're doing in south carolina. make america the easiest and best place in the world to start and grow a business. that's what creates jobs. not government. second, and second is you help people help themselves acquire the skills they need f. you're on food stamps, public assistance, you should be working on going to school so you can find a good paying job and not have to rely on the government anymore. by the way, this is something i say all the time. we need more voi casual training in america, teach more of the kids to be welders, pinefitters, car technicians. good paying jobs. we stopped teaching people how to work with their hands. >> i spent ten years in the construction business. i agree whole heartedly. i think one things people are concerned about, i see little kids here. this president will accumulate more debt than every other
president before him. how do you pay down $20 trillion in debt? >> looking at the driver of it, it's the way social security and medicare structured. my mom is on medicare and social security. i'm against anything that's bad for her. any changes that would be bad for her. >> i'm hoping you won't take my social security money awe. >> but the thing is, we don't want to take it away from anybody. we can leave it and improve it for people on it now or retire. it works differently for methane my parents and grand parents and what i mean for that is instead of retiring at 67, maybe i have to retire at 68. that's not unreasonable to ask of me, 25 years away from retirement in exchange for bringing our debt under control, leaves it undisturbed for the people on it now. >> means test and raise the eligibility age? >> yeah. so a couple -- younger people. >> people 25 years, like me, my kids 50 years awe. >> not 54 like me?
>> you will be fine, sean. >> i look younger, don't you think? >> no. i think if you -- the cutoff is probably ten years away from retirement or less and then everyone retired now. why? because i have 25 years to plan for that. my mom is 85. she can't go back to work. you can't change it now for them. it's not unreasonable. to say to someone you made a lot of money in your life, your social security check is not going to grow as fast as someone who made a little less, that's not an unreasonable change. we don't have a choice. the programs will not exist if we don't do something. leave it exactly the way it is for people on it or about to retire. modest reforms for future generations. save the programs. bring the debt under control and we can avoid this debt crisis that's coming. >> we are live, it's "hannity" in south carolina.
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like ramadi and fallujah and mosul and tikrit in the hands of isis. george w. bush warned about it. how do we defeat the evil in our time? >> we have to recognize they won't go away on their own. they believe their calling to trigger an armageddon to see the 12th imam return and they believe -- i'm not saying that's what's going to happen but that's what they believe. people that believe the stuff don't turn into stockbrokers. they have to be defeetded. i think they need to be confronted by a ground force of saudis and jordanians and egyptians and iraqis and syrians but we have to increase the airstrikes. what we are doing now is not enough. pleased the see we finally went after them in libya where they created a new headquarters. they have a radio station. why is isis still on the air with a radio station? i mean, these things we need to take seriously. they're not as the president called them a bunch of people on the back of a pickup truck.
>> not the jv team. >> not the jv team. they're the radical islamic jihadist group in history. >> do we have to accept mentally, emotionally and be committed as a country that this could be a lifelong struggle as the advancement is real? >> they've said they're willing to invest hundreds of years on this. they want every single person in the room to live under the black flag or die. >> or die. >> this is a group that sells little girls off as brides, that burns people alive in cages. very dangerous group and by the way this is a group of people that love death more than we love life. that's how dangerous they are. >> explain to me if you can the president's rational as it relates to he's insisting on at least 10,000 syrian refugees, our national director of intelligence, the fbi director, special envoy appointed to defeat e sis warned that isis will infiltrate the refugee
population. why would we gamble with the people of the country? >> it is part of the ideology and doesn't make any sense to me. we have always been a country that accepted refugees. this is not about a religious test. the world changed. our policies have to adapt to a new world. here's the problem with the refugee situation. you allow 10,000 people in. 9,999 is fine and 1 is an isis killer, this's a problem. you cannot be 100% sure from people from this part of the world. >> an opponent was angry we wouldn't hack into the san bernardino's terrorist's phone. >> right. >> i think apple made a mistake. i think you put the security of the fellow americans and might be information about terrorist cells in that phone. >> i mean, apple's under a court order right now and appealing it but if they lose it they have to follow the law. encryption also protects people and once you break it that back door exists. >> there's no ambiguity.
these were terrorists. >> absolutely. the apple argument is creating a back door somebody else could use it and it's a new, novel issue. here's the bottom line. apple is not above the law. they have to comply if a court ordered them. >> well said. immigration, i think -- peace and prosperity historically drive elections but i would argue in this election season peace, prosperity, immigration, secure borders, migrants, immigrants are driving this election and a big issue in the campaign and a lot love back and forth between you and the other candidates on it. where are you now? we know where you were in 2008. you have explained to me that was not the plan you wanted. it didn't work out. what would you do if you're president? >> i want us to deal with the issue. my parents are immigrants. my grandparents are immigrants. no one can say i'm
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south carolina, governor haley, great to see you again. >> thank you, welcome to south carolina. >> it's a simple question. everyo everyone sought your endorsement. you gave it to senator rubio. why? >> after 2015 i didn't feel like i had more of a responsibility. first, i'm a mom. i wanted to make sure we had a country that was safe. i'm a proud wife of a military combat veteran. i wanted to make sure our president had the backs of our veterans. and the hardest part of my job is the federal government. but i wanted passion, a fighter, i wanted someone with integrity and humility to know they have to serve every person in country. not just one of a political party. >> let me just get an audience reaction. was this endorsement important to you?
>> thank you very much. thank you. >> all right. now, i've got to ask every candidate you know they don't want asked. so does that mean that nikki haley is on your short list to be vice president? >> here is my opinion, she's one of the most talented people in american politics and one of the brightest lights in the conservative movement. >> governor, if asked to serve in that capacity, you have to consider it. >> sean, my plate is full. very a daughter going to college next year. >> she's ducking and dodging this question. >> i have a son in middle school. i have more things i want to finish in south carolina. i have no doubt there is lots of talent out there but i love the people of south carolina.
i do. >> what do you expect? you know, it is seen that the poll numbers have solidifies in the last 72 hours they've been all over the place. one poll in georgia had you down three and in second place, which is interesting. where do you see this race going? what are we going to see tomorrow night? >> i'm not a political pundit. >> you know your state. >> i will tell you that i do know my state. i know they're strong, responsible people with a lot of strength and grace. they'll all get out and vote tomorrow, they'll vote for the same things all of us care about and i think they're all going to vote for marco rubio for president. >> what an endorsement. senator tim scott is here, too. are you coming up, senator? come on up.
how are you, senator? let me ask you the same question i asked governor haley. why marco? >> it's simple. >> by the way he has an 80% approval rating in the state. >> thanks to you, thanks to you. it was a hard choice in the beginning. i did 12 forums one at a time. i was looking for one candidate head and shoulders above the rest or i would not have endorsed. who would be commander and chief on the first day? a colonel in the air force, the commander in chief to take my brother's life and make a very important decision. the person the most experienced with foreign affairs is marco rubio. intelligence committee, foreign affairs. he understands the middle east in a way no other candidate has been able to articulate. number two, having grown up in a
single parent household, who can revise the economy not for the 1%, but for middle income america? marco lived that story. >> let me -- we have less than a minute. about 30 seconds. i just want to give it to you, senator. tomorrow is the big day. your final push. there is a camera there. talk to the people. >> yeah. i mean not just here in south carolina but around the country, but tomorrow here in south carolina you have an important choice to make. we've got good people running. i believe while we face real challenges. if we lose to the democrats we're going to pay a terrible price, and leave our kids worse off than ourselves, if you nominate me, i have am as concerned as anyone in the country and the 21 century is going to be the greatest era in
the history of the united states. >> thank you in charleston. that is all the time we have left this evening. thanks for watching. we'll see you from nevada on monday. >> i'm in south carolina. south carolina. i'm on the trail. the countdown to south carolina. meanwhile, the race to the gop nomination is getting nastier by the minute. it might be hard to believe when you look at us here on this beautiful aircraft carrier in mt. pleasant. but it's not just the candidates slinging mud. donald trump has been in a fierce fight with, of all people, the pope, yes, the pope is suggesting that donald trump is not a christian. tonight, that leading candidate is here