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the history of the united states. >> thank you in charleston. that is all the time we have left this evening. thanks for watching. we'll see you from nevada on monday. >> i'm in south carolina. south carolina. i'm on the trail. the countdown to south carolina. meanwhile, the race to the gop nomination is getting nastier by the minute. it might be hard to believe when you look at us here on this beautiful aircraft carrier in mt. pleasant. but it's not just the candidates slinging mud. donald trump has been in a fierce fight with, of all people, the pope, yes, the pope is suggesting that donald trump is not a christian. tonight, that leading candidate is here to respond to the pope
on the record. we caught up with him earlier today and sat down for an extended interview. >> so, are you excited about tomorrow? >> so excited. it's probably the most exciting thing i've ever done. to see the numbers come in better than anticipated is exciting for me. >> one person says that the spat that you and the pope had or at least was in the media was has said is in no way a personal attack on or an indication on how to vote. >> i think he's a terrific person, frankly. but, to me, it's illegal immigration. it's illegal immigration. people are coming across the border, tremendous crime happening. i try not to be right on that.
i will tell you, in new ha hampshi hampshire, the biggest single issue the beautiful trees and everything is beautiful. and the biggest problem is right across the border. and i said i will stop it. i don't think the pope really understood in terms with the crime problems and the problems of illegal immigration. and the fact that he said that i'm very honored by it. >> were you surprised to find out that you and the pope were embroiled in this global dispute. maybe surprised isn't quite strong enough. how about shocked. they said the pope just made a statement about you. i said is it good or bad. they said you won't like it. . i think the mexican government probably said that a man named trump wants to close
up the border. i'm not closing it. they have to come in legally. we're going to build the wall. it's going to happen and it's going to be very easy to do, and inexpensive to do, if you know how i like to do, you know, build. people just pour over it. >> buzz feed is reporting that they have an audio tape of you back from september, 20002 in which you were asked about the iraq war and asked whether you're for it or not. you said i guess so. very weak. very timid. by the way, that was long before the war starred. and it was a very like -- that was the first time that i was ever asked about it.
i thought it would destabilize the middle east. iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the world. and iran is getting them for nothing. so i was always opposed to it. in 2003, you see that. remember, i wasn't a politician. nobody really cared what i thought about the war. i always felt it was a destabilization of the middle east. even if some of the pun dents say, even if he said it in 2003, that was still against the war. that was a long time ago.
everybody thought that there were weapons of mass destruction. >> they made a mistake. what should they have done differently. >> he thinks it was a great era. jeb bush was unable to answer the question. when he announced he was running for question, they said was it good or bad. it took him five days to get it out. the infrastructure of our country is dying. our air ports are a mess. i go to other countries, you see airports, and you do, too. you see airports, there's nothing like it in the world. some of the great strictures in the world. our airports. and we fly into liguardia. we're like a third world country.
we're right in the middle of new york city. so we made a terrible mistake. all of those trillions could have been spent in our country. we would have been much better off. >> how do we unravel that. we are where we are. uch to -- you have to understand, i'm the one that said don't do it. and obama did a horrible job getting out. in all fairness. oh, my god, a horrible job. a lot of things he did wrong.
you have to pick them out very, very quick. >> but you've got north africa with those terrorist groups that have declared allegiance to al-qaida or isis. >> it all happened because of the war, a large part of it, because of the distribution in iraq. sadham hussein, bad guy, he was a bad guy, right? he was very good at killing terrorists. harvard university was iraq. you want to be a terrorist to harvard, you go to iraq. he used to kill the terrorists. we didn't have terrorists in iraq. now you have to do something about isis. if this was a hundred years ago,
i'd say forget it. you now have to do something very, very strong against isis. >> president obama just signed increased sanctions. but they had a recent underground test and they shot up our guys in the face. >> we lost a great opportunity. when the worst deal that i've ever seen negotiated, when that deal was made, the number one partner of north korea. thought we could have had something in that deal. they have the number one party of north korea. we did nothing. we never even put it as part of our negotiation. perhaps even more important, china.
china says they don't have much to do. they have a hundred percent to do. >> china doesn't want him to fail, i don't think, because the people from nort korea are going to flae into china. >> china has tremendous power. china is the key. >> we gave them $150 billion. again, the dumbest deal i've ever seen negotiated. what we should do is g the china.
you understand what i'm saying. you look for you go statistically, you quit looking. statistically, you're not looking for growth. you have no growth. you have to let the banks go out and loan money. they're good people. her response was well, you know, you're asking me to say have i ever. i don't believe i ever have. ever will. i don't lie ever. i'm self funding my campaign. >> how much have you spent so
>> he lies. he lies about my stuff. he lies about records. >> if you are the nominee, what's your criteria for a vice president. i've been a with politicians all of my life. we have to get the right guy. >> sorry to bother you, ma'am. i knew one day it was going to happen. financially, it's different.
>> r. >> marco rubio has been looking at a broader base of voters in the state. right now, trying to replica replicate -- you're not going to for him. so he has this really weird, suck cessful run. marco rubio is trying to make yourself onto that tablet. >> it's really good: you hep you're not wanting for his splitting them with cruise, if.
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who were we talking about for poll numbers. donald trump has call ed. >> i was there when he made these comments. trump later tweeted he will get rid of his iphone if they don't do this, too. i get that he's making an issue out of it. trying to push it. >> at least with this poll, it's not supposed to push between senator cruz and senator mark yorks.
i think the race is rally a battle for second place now. they've been going back and forth these full-time days. >> have you run into anybody who's undecided today? >> actually, this is plain, it's plain. so some voters were sort of frustrated. they waited here. >> did they blame you for that? >> there are people who are kind of there. what's interesting is trurp and rubio both going after cruz.
trump was very up in their interview. >> people say they're undecided. >> i think they're willing to change. but i don't think they're undecided. >> i think some people are undecided, but a lot of people don't want to reveal their answer to the end until tomorrow. >> and on the record has the inside scoop. we're going to take you inside both the cruz and the rubio campaigns. that ooex next. stay with us for more live coverage from south carolina right here on board the u.s.s. yorktown.
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tonight on the record coming to you live from on board the "uss yorktown." and senator ted cruz pulled off a stunning win in iowa. and for senator cruz, it all came down to a well oiled ground game. so how is senator cruz's ground game here this in south carolina? can he do it again? >> he has a powerful ground game.n he do it again? >> he has a powerful ground game. 10,000 volunteers and there was a lot of excitement. take a look. >> easy to say let's make america great again. you can even print that on a baseball cap.
but the question to ask, does he understand what made america great in the first lays. >> i know ted better than anybody else and i know how principled he is. every single day he's worked hard to implement the values he talks about. no one else has the proven consi consistne consisten consistency. i'm feeling confident in the vote ar voters. >> against washington as usual and a vote for someone who will be consistently conservative. >> cruz is the most conservative option right now and he's the best qualified to get the job done and defeat trump. >> ted cruz, staunch conservative from the beginning to the end. godly entire life. strict constitutionalist. >> ted brings the distinction between the republican and democratic party. he won't just roll over and let
the republicanic party adopt democratic platform. >> do you think he can win here in south carolina? >> with god all things are possible. >> and tonight sean hannity sits down with ted cruz so you will hear correctly from h hear directly from him. >> he's got the best interview tonight after 8:00 hours. thanks. and senator marco rubio going into tomorrow's primary with some momentum. senator rubio picking up some big south carolina endorsements. snor nikki haley, senator tim scott, the two joining senator rubio at a rally today. >> we will take conservative principles to the people who are living the way i grew up, we will take our principles to people living the way tim scott grew up. we will take our principles to the people who are living the way nikki haley grew up. >> and just a short time ago, senator tim scott went on the
record. nice to see you, sir. >> hey, greta, how you doing. >> i'm very well on top of a beautiful aircraft carrier in your home state and obviously very interested in it what happens tomorrow. is your candidate senator marco rubio, is he ready? >> i think he's very much ready. he's surging at the right time. the crowds are swelling. the electricity, you can sense it in the room. there is a sense of optimism and hope for the future of this country. and i'm excited about what will happen tomorrow here at home. >> is third place a win for him? because he's neck and neck in the polls with senator ted cruz. but if he comes in third place, is that still a win for him? >>mazed that he's moved to a distant third with a neck and they cneck race for se.
i think a strong push could push him into second. i think he'll get in the top third and with a strong surge will do even better. >> nobody knows the south carolina voters than you, so why isn't he in first place? >> no doubt trump has done a very good job of harnessing the anger and frustration. marco is looking at the long game. we know this is a cross-country run. i think he's consistently been improving. he learned a lot from new hampshire. he's applied to south carolina. we were looking for a strong finish tomorrow and that will carry us into the first race in nevada next tuesday and then into the march madness or the sec primaries. >> we're so close to the polls opening down here. do you think there are still people here who are undecided? are you running into those people?
>> we are. and the good news is according to the latest polling information, the un sdidecided voters are breaking forward marco in a significant fashion. we heard there were 7% to 10% of voters that were still undecided. that is a significant number especially when you consider the fact that we're looking at record turnouts tomorrow. so that could be a significant push in the right direction if we're able to achieve the numbers that we think we'll see tomorrow. >> senator, thanks very much. you have a beautiful say the. it's very exciting down here. and this aircraft carrier, if nip is ever in the area, stop in and see it. >> thank you. have a great day. >> evangelicals make up about between-thi two-thirds here, so who will get that vote. that's next. feel a cold sore coming on? only abreva can heal it in as few as two and a half days when used at the first sign. it penetrates deep and starts to work immediately
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their respects to supreme court justice antonin scalia. the cassette he's lying in repo. the eight remaining justices were the first to say their final farewells. the funeral is being held tomorrow morning. now back to the campaign tram. senator ted cruz hoping once again evangelicals turn out and vote for him. whoever gets the evangelical vote is most likely to be the big winner here tomorrow. >> i'm a christian and my faith is integral to who i am. >> christianity is being chopped around at, chop, chop, chop. >> america was founded on a powerful spiritual principle. >> the presidency is a tremendous opportunity to affect the whole being of a country. >> my faith was an important part of how i made decisions. i do not believe that you put
your faith in a lock bockbox whu are in public life. >> you lie and hold up a bible. no good. >> the political panel is back. david, the evangelical vote, is it locked up for ted cruz or not? >> no, it's not. trump has made inroads here big final among evangelicals. the reason is social issues aren't on the top of their agenda this year. if you look at why they like trump, it's immigration, national security issues. it's economic think he's a stro candidate on those issues. gay marriage and abortion, they're with cruz but they prioritize those other issues. >> is donald trump so much tougher on those issues than ted cruz? >> i think he presents himself as tougher. once you get down to the policies, it's maybe thought.
the other thing i think that is interesting is the pope didn't hurt him. >> did it help him? will. >> it helple him actually. they question is the pope a christian. the pope shouldn't be questioning donald trump on this. so i think among those voters, it did help. >> the vatican today issued a statement that enyou'red to the benefit of donald trump. sdl and there are not a lot of catholics in south carolina and evangelicals sort of view the pope as a liberal figure given what he's said on climate dhapg and immigration in the past. so it meet help me ask you abou topic. hillary clinton and bernie sanders are getting ready for tomorrow's democratic nevada caucus. secretary clinton's campaign has been dogged with issues over her honesty and trustworthiness, but secretary clinton may not see it
that way. >> in '76, jimmy carter famously said i will not lie to you. >> i have to tell you, i have tried in every way i know how literally from my years as a young lawyer all the way through my time as secretary of say the to level with the american people. >> you talk about leveling with the american people. have you always told the truth? >> i've always tried to. always. alwa always. >> some people will call that wiggle room. jimmy carter said i will never lie to you. >> you're asking me to say have i ever. i don't believe i ever have. i don't believe i ever will. i'll do the best i can to revel with the american people. >> now, the republicans jumped all over that. does that discussion that secretary clinton had with scott pelley, does it matter to the democrats? >> i think it does. you're seeing that even in the democratic polling about the
trustworthiness of hillary clinton and a lot of people have concerns over it. and that's why bernie sanders has caught on is this lingers distrust of hillary clinton. >> the democratic primary here is a week after the republican one. is the clinton campaign doing much down here to address issues like that? >> i don't think they feel like they need to. they're focusing on the african-american vote which is more than half the vote in the south carolina democratic primary. so if she loses the caucuses tomorrow, they will immediately turn here and look for a win to salvage that because she is up double digits here. but overall, trustworthiness is her longing problem. it will be her vulnerability throughout even if she's the nominee. and i think trump will wield against her. >> gentlemen, thank you. so far here, there have been record turnouts among millennials in this election season. in iowa, new hampshire, there were big numbers. will that happen here in south carolina? two college students are here
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tomorrow is a big day for republicans and a week later the democrats will have their primary here. and millennials turned out big in iowa and new hampshire. will they do the same here tomorrow? and next week will they do it for the democrats? the millennial panel is here. president of the university of south caroli south carolina. nick, first to you. do you expect the made lillenni will turn out in big numbers? >> oh, yeah, a lot of enthusiasm across our campuses. >> what are they interesting in? >> i think both our democratic candidates are speaking to the issues that really matter to south carolina krians, specific students. making college more affordable and making sure the student loan
debt doesn't hold everyone back. >> anna, how about you. do you think the republican millennials will turn out tomorrow? >> oh, absolutely. we've been pushing better turnout since day one of this year. and people are very, very, very excited. i think donald trump has added a lot of excitement to this race. and it's gotten everybody interested and they're all very excited to turn out and vote for their candidate. >> anna, when you walk around campus, indo you see more trump signs or other republican candidates? >> actually, the two campaigns that have probably been the most active on campus because all of the campaigns had to do stuff because they weren't registered organizations, the two that have been the most active have been ben carson's campaign and jeb bush's campaign for sure. >> nick, you talked about affordable college and that caught my attention because secretary hillary clinton talks
about affordable college and senator bernie sanders, he talks about free college. which of the millennials are the more interested in, the free college or the affordable college? >> well, i think both campaigns have strong appeal in south carolina. i am personally a hillary supporter. i think her new college compact is the only comprehensive plan to make college affordable to everyone that wants to attend kre college on either side of the aisle. >> anna, do you have a candidate tomorrow? >> i am undecided. i'm currently trying to go decide between john kasich and donald trump. >> and what has to happen in the next, i don't know, 12, 14 hours? >> oh, gosh. i have to sleep on it and i probably won't make a decision until i get to the polls tomorrow. >> all right. good luck and enjoy your voting. thank you.
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could rest and retire. she deserves it. she worked so hard for us. and that's my off the record comments tonight. that's all for now. welcome to "red eye." i'm tom shillue. let's check in with tv's andy levy to see what exciting stories we will be discussing this evening. andy? >> thank you, tom. coming up, hillary clinton always tries to tell the truth. is this her biggest lie ever? and apple guru says he can crack the iphone in three weeks. and a high school girl's basketball team lost by a score of 108-1. i hope the coach of the winning team wasn't happy about giving up the one point. >> thanks,