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she has got good hands. i like the one where she just went okay. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for "special report," fair, balanced and unafraid. greta goes "o right now. tonight, "on the record," florida senator marco rubio may have big4l trouble at home. self-crossing his fingers he will win in florida. that's where he lives. that's who he represents. and yet right now in a new florida poll donald trump is clobbering marco rubio. likely voting republican voterss trump in command. marco rubio behind can anyone possibly catch up and outshine trump in the sunshine state in will florida go trump? nice to see you? >> congratulations 3501.
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>> that's right. thank you, sir. we will keep counting, too. sir, you haven't endorsed anyone? >> no. >> not yet. how do you explain that trump has such a commanding lead in this poll in florida and this poll was taken after governor bush got out of the race who is a floridian. >> people say it's marco's home state but donald trump has been be a celebrity for decades. everybody knows him everywhere. so usually you have a home state advantage because they don't know the other people and so i think donald is someone that i think a lot of people know and clearly he has captured some of the -- wanting to turn this place upside down. i have seen that over the last six months more and more people at different events i have attended. more trump shirts. make america great shirts. is he leading. i think that poll is probably more than what he is leading but i do think he is leading. >> but senator rubio represents florida. i bet everyone in my home state knows who senator rubio is right now. i'm from wisconsin. everybody knows him. do they just not think that
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he has the capability to be president? >> no, i don't think so. i think that donald has hit a nerve with a lot of folks. and quite frankly, i mean most of the other candidates have been attacking each other. donald has been above the and he has kneecapped a lot of people too. i think marco is going to run good in florida. i think donald obviously is going to be formidable. i think it will be an important race. what happens now and then will also have an effect. >> what part of the states to he have the -- big part of the state tv markets. expensive to run there. >> i will tell you, i have been in palm beach and seen the make america great hats. i have been in pensacola, jacksonville, fort meyers. part of trump is that he is not necessarily an ideological candidate. we have different views in;s different parts of the state. he is more of a personality candidate. i think there is an appeal there different parts of the diverse state. >> is there a topic that seems to consume floridians the most this election? >> i think this place here in washington needs to be
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overhauled. i mean, i just don't think there is any9ñ question. people know that when i talk about what need to do. heads start to nod. trump has positioned himself as someone who is going to it take a sledge hammer to the permanent political class here in washington. >> do you think on the other side of the aisle that also is the same thing -- is senator bernie sanders have sort of an edge that way? trump and sanders are perceived as the shaking up candidates. not the conventional candidates. >> clearly hillary, not only is she the quintessential establishment candidate, a lot of people get frustrated because people don't have a to live under.yb] the same rules here. how many junior officers in the military have they handled classified information the way hillary would have no consequences. i don't think anyone expects loretta lynch to actually indict hillary clinton. some people understand that and say hey, does she live and you different set of rules or what? >> thank you. >> thanks for joining us. florida is a big deal not just because of all the delegates. senator rubio lives there
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and dr. carson lives there. john mccormick and susan ferrechio, how is florida not just for bragging rights for senator marco rubio but just for his campaign overall. >> it's very important. florida has 99 did he goes stake and winner take all. if you win by one vote you get all 99 delegates. donald trump could clean up. he probably only met on his total haul would probably only be 100 delegates more than ted cruz. if marco rubio wants to win this nomination, not in a brokered convention is he almost certainly going to need to win florida. >> susan, in this race, donald trump has 44% in florida. 28% is senator rubio, which is 16 points behind. governor jeb bush isn't in here. who got governor jeb bush's numbers in this? >> it's really interesting. i think there is a another poll that has him closer rubio and trump. the problem with rubio is he
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epitomizes the candidate that a lot of the electorate is angry at because they elected him in 2010. he was a tea party candidate and he came to washington and there is a growing sense in florida that he sort of betrayed his tea party base by signing on to the immigration reform law. there were a lot of people really angry with him about that i have been hearing from florida voters who are along comes trump, the outsider candidate who says i'm outside othe box. i wasn't in washington. i didn't sign on to the immigration bill. they turn to him. that's clearly what rubio's problem is jeb bush is sort of a nonfactor there i think rubio earned a lot of animosity from the voters in florida. it's pay back time right now. >> john, where do you think the bush votes went? >> rubio has improved but not enough to take over donald trump. what happened here is you need to change the dynamic and take away donald trump voters. >> how do you do that? >> no one knows for sure. you have got to try. if you go back(c to 2012. newt gingrich was up by
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nearly double digits a week before. a crucial primary for mitt romney. super pac spent $15.4 million in that state. that is more money than has been spent to date by super pacs. nationwide against donald trump. and romney also went after him in the debate. so far rubio, you know, he has taken a few swipes at trump. he hasn't gone after him as hard as he wants to try to change the narrative. >> so far has been focusing on beating it ted cruz. >> mitt romney didn't win by trying to take away rick santorum's votes. >> it's a false assumption to think jeb's votes were going to go to rubio. i would say that to the rest of the field too. where they think condense. i don't think you can assume they will all go to rubio. >> susan and john if you will stay with us. now to senator ted cruz in his home state of texas. cruz is leading big there. big monmouth poll of texas voters shows senator cruz with 38%.
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donald trump sits in second place. 323%. senator marco rubio 21%. dr. ben carson fourth place with 6%. govern john kasich in fifth place with 5% greg abbot who has endorsed senator cruz goes "on the record." good evening, sir. >> good evening, greta. páulations on your show.h i'm glad to be part of your next 3,500. >> governor, thank you very much. i appreciate it it all right, governor, you want senator ted cruz as the next president. rye? >> because ted cruz has the prescription of what ails america. who will put the united states back on its constitutional pathway. he has an economic plan that will peal away all the heavy hand of government that will allow america to begin to create jobs. having worked side by side with ted cruz behind the scenes for five years when he served as my solicitor general, i have the confidence in him as being a terrific commander and chief. >> you have been a governor,
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obviously, running a state down in texas. does it give you some sense of pause that senator cruz is in the u.s. senate and he is not, for instance, a governor running a state. he doesn't have any experience that way. >> because i know ted cruz, because i know his decision-making process, because i know the thoughtful and methodical way approaches very tough issues. i have confidence that whatever issue may arise, he is the right person to lead the country. look at one of the most consequential issues we are dealing with at this time. that is the future pathway of the constitution itself. i trust ted cruz to appoint the right person to the united states supreme court. >> what do you make of sort of the double-barrell pointed at him, the political double-barrell. senator marco rubio on one side. donald trump on the other. they have been pointing their political weapons right at senator cruz, lately. >> well, listen it's what happens in politics. greta, here is my take away. that is after tuesday, there is only going to be two candidates who have ever won
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a state. and ted cruz is one of them. i think that after tuesday, this race is going to boil down to a two person race. think about this last fact. that is the states that know ted cruz the best, texas,e6 @&c@ and iowa, where ted cruz spent a lot of time, those are the states that are going for ted cruz. the more people learn about ted cruz and that he is the person who embodies conservative values, i though the more likely people are going to be supporting him as the campaign continues. >> are you predicting senator marco rubio who hasn't won one state and is losing in florida that he will be out after tuesday? >> well, greta, look at it this way, about 40% of all of the delegates will be assigned after this coming tuesday. and rubio will not have won any state whatsoever. ted will have won at least two states. he is the only person who will have beaten donald trump in any state, and i think it will be a two-person race after this coming tuesday. >> governor, always nice to
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see you. thank you, sir. >> thank you, greta. >> and the 2016 g.o.p. candidates are getting ready to square off in the last test before super tuesday. last night some of the candidates participated in a town hall right here on fox news. >> my purpose is to be president. >> everyone wants to call the game after the first inning. >> they are furious with washington. they are furious with politicians in both parties. >> i give us the opportunity people who haven't voted for us in the past. >> we have good news. i beat hillary clinton by more than any other candidate. >> i think the way that you earn the votes of the hispanic community, the way that i everywhere the votes here in texas is making the case that conservative principles work. >> i feel like we are in the process of losing our country. >> as president, i intend to fight to lift the burdens on small businesses so people like my dad, people in the hispanic community, washing dishes on the bottom rungs of the economic lad his or her want to achieve the american dream can do that. >> i believe i am the
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conservative that can unite shis party. anyone. >> i build my organizations with the grass roots. north with people inside the beltway. and not with the people who call the tune on k street. i believe i can unite this party as i have proven this week with more and more people coming on board. >> what do candidates need to do to rack up wins on tuesday? fox news chief political correspondent carl cameron is in houston carl? let's start at the top of e polls and w column. donald trump has won three of the first four contestants. as we move out of first of the nation states iowa, heartland, new hampshire, northeast, first in the south in south carolina and then the west in nevada, we now have super tuesday upon us. and donald trump is looking for big wins hopefully in his words to put it all away, which is what he suggested he wanted to do when he was winning nevada just four nights ago. so, mr. trump comes in here to texas whereas you were just saying a moment ago he actually trails ted cruz in the polls.
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but -- right now does not each have any paid advertising in any of the super tuesday states. more than 11 of them, more than half of the delegates necessary to clinch the nomination are up for grabs. and texas could be the one place where donald trump might be upended. it's going to be a big battle. there is this debate tonight obviously. donald trump has to show that he can be presidential. but he doesn't want to do anything to cool the tempers of his supporters who expect him to be loud, proud, aggressive, and tough. ted cruz has to battle that, somehow. and here in texas it's kind of an all or nothing proposition for him. once we get past the super tuesday states which is most of the south which was a part of ted cruz's strategy to win big on super tuesday, if that doesn't happen, he is going to be in serious pressure to get out of race. but, he has sort of a back stop in what happens on march 15th, two and a half weeks from now. that's when both florida and ohio are included in a
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number of states that will votig and they are all winner take all in terms of the purse. the delegate take. in the past, up until this point, up until all four -- first four all proportionally allocated on tuesday all proportionally allocated. first, second and third split the delegate count. that's why marco rubio has to win in,m florida. if he doesn't win his home state, if trump beats him there as the polls suggest, a, he gets absolutely no dels and trump gets all of them. that's exactly the same situation playing out in ohio where john kasich is the governor and both john kasich and marco rubio are arguing through all of their campaigns and supporters really across the country nowed that the other guy should drop out because they are going it lose in their state. they're both trailing donald trump in their state. greta. >> carl, thank you. as we get close to super tuesday carl is talking about in the next multi-state primary days how will candidates do in own states. quinnipiac university poll
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of republicans. marco rubio is in trouble donald trump beats him 44 to 28. cruz is doing better in monmouth university poll of texas republicans cruz is beating trump 38 to 23. in ohio, quinnipiac university poll of ohio republicans shows ohio governor john kasich is in trouble. trump beating their state governor 31% to 26%. the "on the record" political panel is back. and i guess, susan, if anyone sort of seems to have a chance between rubio and kasich of beating donald trump, i put my money on kasich tonight. >> oh, he could. but cruz could beat trump in texas. >> we expect him to beat him in texas. >> kasich is more popular in his home state in ohio as rubio is. he is the governor, kasich, very popular governor. more well known to the state. rubio, as i was saying before is a little less popular in the state because of the stance he took on immigration. interesting what the governor was saying before about this being a two man race after super tuesday. one wonders whether rubio
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will look at poll numbers. look at the result of super tuesday and question whether to keep going forward. does he want to be defeated in his home state? does he want to go out that way if it looks like trump is going to clobber him? really makes me wonder. >> john, how does senator marco rubio possibly stay in if he is going to lose florida? he hasn't won one race. came in fifth in new hampshire. lost iowa, lost south carolina. he gave victory speeches there people on the twitter universe said how you can give a victory speech when he didn't come in first. how does he possibly stay in the race if he loses all these? got to win something to stay in. >> it's a very crucial race. there is no doubt about i do think we underestimating the possibility if it's a split decision on the 15th. >> if the same candidate doesn't win ohio and florida, i think there is a decent chance that we'll end up in contested convention. if john kasich wins ohio and donald trump wins florida or if marco rubio wins florida and donald trump wins ohio, i think that we have a very
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decent chance, less than auto% but decent chance we end up in contested convention. >> you know why, the other factor here that we're not talking about is who has the mainstream establishment behind them? right now it's marco rubio. say he drops out, look to kasich if he can stay in. they are on to anyone but trump path and that's what's going to keep this going potentially. >> susan and john, stick around. and, first, the poem and now well donald trump has a new feud that's next. also, deadly weather across the country. that's coming up. also, the fight between apple and the fbi is heating up. whose side are you on? coming up. ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪
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this is a fox news alert. deadly shirting in heston, kansas. two people dead and several more injured in a work place shooting. police said the suspect is now down. "on the record" will continue to monitor breaking news story and bring you any updates the second they come in. and donald trump has gotten in a lot of feuds with a lot of people this election season. and the newest feud? governor mitt romney? trump in the 2012 g.o.p. presidential nominee locked in a wicked war of words after this statement from governor romney. >> frankly, i think we have good reason to believe that there is a bombshell in donald trump's taxes. >> what do you mean? >> well, i think there is something there. either he is not anywhere near as wealthy as he says he is or he hasn't been paying the kind of taxes we would expect him to pay or perhaps he hasn't been giving money to the vets or disabled like he has been telling us he has been doing
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the reason i think there is a bombshell in there is because every time he is asked about his%r6 taxes he dodges and delays and says well we are are working on it we are not talking about the taxes that a2"l coming due this year. of course they are working on those. they won't be ready for month. we are talking about taxes already filed. back taxes. >> in true trump fashion, trump tweeted this photo with the caption signing a recent tax return, isn't this ridiculous? trump followed that up with this tweet. i'm going to do what mitt romney was totally unable to do, win. governor romney then slamming back at trump tweeting this, me thinks the donald doth protest too much. show voters your back taxes. the "on the record" political panel is back. what started this feud, john? >> it's not entirely clear obviously mitt romney either wants to get this information out there or wants to make an issue of this. maybe he wants to lay the groundwork for a run himself or wants to help the other candidates in the race. they have both said they are going to relies their taxes
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as romney did in 2012. donald trump, you know, there is an issue where his charitable foundation gave $100,000 to the clinton foundation in recent years. less than $57,000 to veterans organizations. >> can i say something about the vets? awkward position of having some information on this one. is that donald trump, about a year ago, called me and wanted the address because he wanted to give some money to some veto help the vet out. it's not a charitable deduction. he helped this person out. he just called me for the address. and he helped this person out but he can't conduct that. so, this whole thing with the taxes seems a little -- you know, i'm surprised at this. and when it says he is not nearly as wealthy. he has 10 billion and not 12 billion? >> i was really surprised in romney getting involved in this. that shows you the level of over trump candidate. can you believe this? this is mitt romney the former de facto head, former nominee attacking the
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current g.o.p. frontrunner on national television. who would have thought that this dynamic would exist this year? i meanp it, really goes to questions within the republican party about what trump can do for them as the nominee. and their fear that he may not be able to go all the way. it's a good question to ask about his taxes. let's face it. if he has problems with his taxes and comes out as the nominee, it could hurt their cans to win the white house. >> he uses the term bombshell. let me ask what the viewers think at home. now is your chance to vote at home on twitter. will former mitt romney's attack hurt donald trump? tweet #greta. good reason to believe there is a bombshell didn't say any more information. >> he called on all three of the candidates to release tax forms. he said that about trump. he didn't say that about hillary clinton or anybody else's. >> i don't know if it's going to work because if you
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look at the exit polls the biggest difference between 2012 and 2016. much smaller voters want to vote for the democrat who is most electability. >> susan and john, thank you both. should apple help the fbi get into a terrorist's phone? the heated battle is next. supported them,
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the fight between apple and the fbi is booth up. a federal judge has ordered apple to hack on to an iphone left behind by one of the san bernardino terrorists, james comey blasting apple in front of the house intelligence committee. this is a single phone. ask write a piece of software that will work only in that phone not anybody else's phone. and you apple can hold the phone so that the software you write never has to leave your premises we will send you guesses, electronically, and if you open it, tell us that it comes open. so i don't quite understand some of the comments that have been made publicly about how this is going to effect77 enforcement sometimes saves our lives, saves ours children saves our neighborhoods getting search warrants for cases, apartments, sometimes for phones. if we are going to get to a phone where there are spaces in american life that are immune to judicial search
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warrants, that's a very different world in the one which with which we live and we have got to8alk about that. >> a apple tim cook has in an interview with abc news david muir is refusing to back down. >> apple has cooperated with this case they came to us and asked us for all the information they had on this phone and we gave everything that we h but this case is not about one phone. this case is about the future what is at stake here can the government come people apple to write software that we believe would make hundreds of millions of customers vulnerable around the world, including the u.s. >> and you would have to write that system in order to unlock that phone? >> yes. the only way we know would be to write a piece of software that we view as sort of the software equivalent of cancer. >> what does this all mean? fox news chief intelligence
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correspondent catherine herridge is here. catherine? >> thank you, greta. this 65 page brief was filed by apple late today. they are asking the court to vacate the order.h; their position simply put is that what the government wants in this case, the fbi to sort of unlock this unconstitutional sets a dangerous precedent. there is no such thing as one phone, one investigation. sweeping powers make it less secure. just on a personal note. one of the lead attorneys here is a former solicitor general olsen. of what al qaeda has tried to do or groups like isis has forced us to way to change the way we live our lives and almost sweep away elements of the constitution and our freedoms. he felt very strongly this was an example of that sort of incremental loss of an individual's right. >> how was this received, james comey, the fbi's testimony on capitol hill today? >> if i was going to break down comby's testimony, i
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would do it probably three or four ways. one he said that when you look at the technology, whatever kind of code is developed by apple, for this phone in this case will be obsolete because the technology and security is evolving quickly. number two, he said that based on the past experience with apple, up until 2014, apple was able to unlock these devices but they never7á had a problem with the code getting loose or going into the wild. that's the kind of scenario they worry about in terms of long-term data protection. >> well, certainly is not going to end quickly this one. catherine, thank you. >> you are welcome. >> let's talk basics. exactly what is it that the fbi is trying to get apple to do. with us is morgan wright. are we talking about -- getting into the iphone you would have to put in four numbers or six numbers. is that the access we are or is it beyond that. >> we hope it is 4, 6 numbers. that means limited possibilities. >> the old phones were four. the new ones are six?
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>> alpha numeric. you can use letters and numbers. can i put password 1, 2, 3 or happy face 9, 67, you can combinations that's the nightmare for the fbi. >> if you make so many attempts at entering your cell phone and you don't have the right code, everything is erased? >> it is if you don't get apple to bypass the pass codes and give you access. >> which is why the fbi doesn't want to do the 10 times or whatever it is they are afraid tenth time everything is gone totally. what's your thought on this? >> i think apple needs to comply and here's why. 2010, when they lost a prototype phone, who did they call? they called law enforcement to go search the offices of a reporter that worked for gizmoto who dissected the iphone and put it up. they are not against calling law enforcement. they were doing it for law enforcement. law enforcement says send us the phone and we will get past the pass code. the circumstances would be different if there were 14 apple employees killed and 13 seriously injured i think it would be a different outcome. >> i don't understand.
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i read of this occasion a woman's husband died want to do use ipad to play solitaire. she got the death certificate and the will and finally after she went to the media, apple finally gave her the code so that she could go on this ipad and play solitaire. she was in her 70's. why isn't that the same sort of situation here? >> because of the iphone 5 c, the touch i.d. that it uses and the way that the pass code is used to encrypt the data. >> they don't just have it? >> apple -- i'm not sure what happened if it's access to it icloud they can reset the password. they have to get past the pass code first and run a computer to catch the numbers they don't want to limit the number of tempts so they want to be able to have the software technology to move as fast as the iphone can take the pass code. >> bill gates and steve jobs. he has come out against apple is this an old grudge being revisited? how do we tell? >> all i can remember is the last -- i saw steve jobs and
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bill gates going at it bill gates now that he has been more philanthropist. he has a different view of the world. this is not the issue that tim cook is claiming it to be. it's not going to get and everybody is going to get it one piece of software, the fbi they can delete it,. >> mass killing was in december. urgency now. a little late. why wasn't this debated last december? >> i don't want to impute motives to folks. one of the things they could make a case or make a stand. on the other hand, some of these operations going on up there, they could be months in the making discipline deed, if that's indeed trudy, i wish they would have done this iny2 december. morgan, thank you. >> thanks, greta. heavy winds and tornadoes. they are taking lives and causing massive damage. that's next. plus, he is scottish born but callso7hfh himself an american. craig ferguson has much more to say about america in a
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carrying a satellite into space. last month the north koreans conducted its fourth underground nuclear test. u.s. ambassador to the united nations ambassador samantha powers goes "on the record." good evening, ambassador, and do i -- is it true that this is significant to get china on board with us to deal with north korea like this? >> i think it is hugely significant. the resolution hasn't gone through yet. we introduced it to it a full council. hoping for a vote in the next few days. this isk)>w the most comprehensive sanctions resolution we have seen at the u.n. in more than two decades and china had to think hard as a neighbor about what the effects of each of these provisions are. you know, banning aviation fuel from going in. banning chinese exports of coal, which is a -- excuse me north korean exports of coal which is a huge revenue for north koreans except for humanitarian purposes freezing assets. vary minerals.
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this is tightening the vice on north korea in a way up to this point china hasn't been prepared to do. i think it is a very significant mo on their part and ours. >> i likewise agree with you china stepping up and helping us on this. has there been any/s response -- there is a north korea mission at the u.n. have they said anything at all? daily basis one, from them, all kinds of threats and all kinds of commitments to do this and that. and to advance their program further we don't expect when thisy÷ resolution goes through and even if we get the kind of enforcement and implementation we need from china and all members states of the u.n., we don't expect an overnight transformation from this regime. you know them better than most. we do believe that this resolution tightens gaps that had existed. they have managed not with
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understanding pretty crippling sanctions resolutions before this point. manage to do?szvy do nuclear tests to advance missile technology. we now she those gaps. this resolution shores things up. even something like an arms embargo for reasons, you know that don't make a lot of sense. there had been an insistence on the part of china to maintain a loophole in the arms embargo where they were able to get light weapons and small arms. that loophole closed. set up banks in other countries that loophole closed. ability to trade in gold and, again, coal and other natural resources and, you know, use these elicit networks, those closed if this resolution goes through and if, as we expect, we get the implementation reflected in china's willingness to even put these provisions on the books. >> i see this as a big step forward. i don't know what's going to' happen. who can predict with that nation what's going to happen. always such a moving target to us. we were we close to having discussions before they had the early january nuclear test to have some sort of
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dialogue with them? >> there has not been a lot of progress as you know since 2005, which is when we thought we were getting something going where they were willing to engage in talks that were predicated on achieving complete and available denuclearization. nothing much has been cooking since then and i think now what we're doing is trying to actually interfere in a very comprehensive way with their ability to get access to technology, access to know how, access to money, all the tools that not with understanding their isolation they having manage to do use to build out that program. >> ambassador, thank you so much for joining us. i know that this has been really tough. and i know that it's always so unpredictable with this nation. and we certainly, why hope for the best and great that china is on board this time. we will see what happens. thank you, ambassador. >> thanks to you on the human rights front for always drawing us back to that issue asvs well. really appreciate it. >> thank you, ambassador.
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governor sandoval telling it the white house thanks, but no thanks after reports the white house had begun the vetting process. that's tonight's speed read. and you know that sent that you know his vehicle jokes. in fact comedian craig fergusonson he loves america so much he chose to become an american citizen. he decide to do step down from the late, late show on cbs to try something new. new late night show to join or die goes on the history channel. craig ferguson went "on the record" to tell us all about it. >> nice to see you. >> hello, how are you? >> i'm very well. welcome back to late night. weave have missed you, it's only about a year and a little change, but, still we have missed you. >> thank you very much indeed. i feel like i haven't really been anywhere. i have been doing the game show. but it's nice. >> and you got a daytime emmy i might add so you have been busy. >> yeah, i have. i was surprised amend excited to get that thing. it's nice to bet2t((i doing a show which is, you know, the
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game show is fun but the discussion the history channel show is a little more challenging, i suppose, intellectually. shouldn't be. join or die is the name of it and he understand you have a at that time tattoo. >> yeah. what i have benjamin franklin did. this you have a picture but i have it here. when i became a citizen in 2008, i got this tattoo, benjamin, franklin, of course put this in the pennsylvania gazette in 17 a 4. first symbol of then the united clones which colonies that went on it become the united states. nice way to become a citizen. >> join or die, i'm glad to announce it's 11:00 p.m. history channel not opposite us at 7:00 p.m. always happy to from v. guests on with shows opposite of us. >> i can't take the competition.
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not something i'm capable of handling. >> yeah, right. tell me, what can we expect -- how does this differ from your last show? discussion show in a sense where three guests and we discuss -- we take six events or people or something in history and discuss it in a very informal way to the courts best one. you look for history's best or worst dictator or worst medical advice or biggest [bleep] or whatever it is. and what we do is really, there is no real structure to the show. it's really a show stimulate conversation. the structure is just coat hangers. it's not a real thing. it's just a way to talk about some events in history. so, really i think the show is a talk show but it's about something other than the people involved. it's not going to beaí about your movie or your tv show or your new album coming out.
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it's about we want to talk about this. >> you know what i think is interesting. it's big for you, obviously. this is a big deal. also think this is a big deal for the history channel. this is a a departure from what at least what i have seen on the history channel. this is breaking the mold, isn't it? >> i think a little bit. it's an attempt by, i think history feel that they want to do get more historical content. at the same time, wanted to appear wildly populist and vulgar. they have used me to bridge the gap. >> so are you having fun doing it? >> yeah. i am i think we are still finding our way to be honest. when we did the late night show, i have made 22 join or die. so i think it will take me another few to find a way. there is going to be fine tuning involved. it's not finished yet if you know anything about me haphazard throw me on the air and land as we go. >> when i think when i see myself on tv it's a long way
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from wherever i grew up. it's a long way for you from you5a glasgow, isn't it? >> it seems very surreal. >> where did you grow up? >> appleton, wisconsin. >> that's internationally renowned town. >> we with an international airport now. one flight to canada or something. international. still counts. >> international, indeed it is, anyway. congratulations on the new show. like i say we have missed join or die 11:00 p.m. on the history channel, thanks, craig. >> thanks, greta. nice to see. >> you coming up, does governor mitt romney have a short memory? he is the last one i thought would do this. my off-the-record next. no other nasal allergy spray can say that. complete allergy relief or incomplete. let your eyes decide. flonase changes everything.
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the gunman entered several buildings and opened fire on employees inside. police are notñt saying when the employee was fired. stay with fox news for instant live updates. >> let's all go off-the-record. remember how dirt senator harry reid was in 2012 making insinuation about governor romney and his taxes. >> the word is out that he hasn't paid taxes for 10 years. >> so dirty and did it to smear romney. he didn't know what was in romney's taxes. he want to do smear him with i understand innuendo. i smacked himvt for it and i smacked nancy pelosi, too. she was up to her eyeballs in it with reid. >> it's one thing to name names so it can be investigate to do see if it's true. it is another thing to just stir up gossip and rumor by throwing around explosive
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and poisonous allegations. that's just dirty. >> which brings me to now. four years later. >> frankly, i think we have good reason to believe that there is a bombshell in donald trump's taxes. >> what do you mean? >> well, i think there is something there. either he is not anywhere near as wealthy as he says he is or he hasn't been paying the kind of taxes we would expect him to pay or o, perhaps he hasn't been giving money to the vets or to the disabled like he has been telling us he has been doing. >> so now governor romney with the innuendos. you would think after reid did it to him that he would be the last person to it stoop that low. romney knows that's a low blow. just like reid romney doesn't know what's in or is not trump's tax returns. that's a cheap shot. i always admired romney but tonight i'm disappointed in him. i'm not tell to you vote for or against trump that's your business. they should release their tax returns but not at the
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end of a smear gun. that's my off-the-record comment tonight. see you tomorrow night right here at 7:00 p.m. go to my facebook page. gretawire, twitter, all of that stuff. good night. ♪ ♪ i'm eric bolling in for bill o'reilly. thanks for watching special edition of "the o'reilly factor" election 2016. let's get the right to the top story. is donald trump now the inevitable republican nominee? super tuesday is just five days away and trump's two biggest rivals, senator ted cruz and senator marco rubio())g try to stop him. >> we can't be fooled by p.t. barnum. [ applause ] th


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