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tonight. on monday, we'll have the super tuesday preview with a whole bunch of folks. i'm bill o'reilly. please remember the spin stops right here because we're definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight. less than 4 hours after a rousing republican presidential debate that bordered on a brawl, front-runner donald trump shakes up the race yet again with a surprise important endorsement. good evening, everybody. welcome to "the kelly file. " we are days out from march 1, the most significant day of the primary season to date. just hours ago, a major announcement. at a trump campaign rally in ft. worth, texas, mr. trump introducing his newest advocate, new jersey governor chris
christie. this was not expected. during the campaign, they went at it, christie insisting trump was the candidate for entertainment in chief, even questioning whether he had the temperment to occupy the highest office in the land. but now governor christie, keynote speaker at the 2012 rnc convention, saying donald trump does represent, in his opinion, the best hope for the gop. watch. >> i am proud to be here to endorse donald trump for president of the united states. i'm doing this for a number of reasons. first is, donald and i, along with his family, have been friends for over a decade. secondly, i've been on that stage. i've gotten to know all the people on that stage. and there is no one who is better prepared to provide america with the strong leadership that it needs, both at home and around the world, than donald trump. he will make sure that people around the world know that america keeps its word again.
donald trump is someone who, when he makes a promise, he keeps it. third, there is no doubt in my mind, and i've been saying this right from the time i entered the campaign, that the single most important thing for the republican party is to nominate the person who gives us the best chance to beat hillary clinton. i can guaranty you that the one person that hillary and bill clinton do not want to see on that stage come next september is donald trump. >> i'm not big on endorsements. i could have had many endorsements. i have quite a few many. but i didn't want to take the time and the two hours and the dinners and everything else. it just wasn't worth it. this was an endorsement that meant a lot. chris is an outstanding man with outstanding family. he's done a great job, and i think that this is the one endorsement i felt very strongly about that i wanted to get. >> last night in the debate, donald trump using new language stating "we are building a much bigger, much stronger republican party," he said. so what is the impact of chris
christie's vote of confidence todd? guy benson is a fox news contribute tore. howie kurtz is host of media buzz. good to see you both. guy, let me start with you. you are a voice for conservatives across this country, and chris christie put his position behind donald trump tonight. an important endorsement, no? >> definitely. and i think this was a master stroke by the trump campaign. just brilliant. for two reasons. first, they managed to convince a once popular governor to take his credibility and his reputation that he's built over his adult lifetime and apply it to try to confer some credibility upon donald trump, a man, who as you just pointed out, criticized sharply on a number of fronts during his own failed presidential campaign. but more importantly, from a conservative perspective, this is the trump campaign turning the page away from last night's debate, at which donald trump was habitually and repeatedly
exposed and humiliated by ted cruz and marco rubio, two sharp, young conservatives with vastly superior knowledge on virtually every issue that came up. so i think that was this morning a realization donald trump waking up saying wow, i got beat pretty badly last night. he fired off some insulting tweets against marco rubio, life with misspellings. rubio mocked him on television. he had to delete them. the trump campaign had to turn attention away from that and this endorsement was timely. >> donald trump feels very good about the debate last night. but your point is right on, that it was a master stroke in terms of moving the conversation. and it almost feels, howie, that the trump campaign sort of has it in its docket, like okay ready for this one. as if you're putting another one in the barrel and when the next moment comes along, let's roll
out that. it's very well done, would you say in >> well, yeah. in fact, i'm told that donald trump had this endorsement in his back pocket for some time, choosing today to roll it out. i don't agree that he was exposed and humiliated in the debate. it was a rough, barroom brawl debate, and he got scratched up from time to time. but endorsements i think matter a lot more to the media than average voters. but this one is important because the remnants of the republican establishment and the conservative media establishment are engaged in a last-minute, somewhat desperate effort to stop trump from rolling to the nomination and paint him as a dangerous figure who is a threat to the republican party and the country. along comes chris christie, two-term country in a blue state, who had been up there on the stage, lending his credibility to trump and opening the door for other establishment officials to do the same. and the trump campaign has half dozen more officials to roll out. >> to marco rubio, one of his
senior advisers todd harris said this today. it's been made plain as day, the media is not interested in covering the substance. the media wants to cover the circus. if we have to be part of the circus, then let us in the ring. that sounds pretty harsh in terms of what their strategy is right now, guy. >> but they have to. the way trump has operated has been very successful. with this new chris christie endorsement, all three major cable news outlets covered that live. i watched his rally in oklahoma all over cable news tonight. they've given tons of free airtime because of the circus like atmosphere. >> he's the leading candidate, too. >> that's true. they've been giving him tons of airtime, vastly overshadowing any other candidate across the dial. so i think what the rubio campaign is saying, all right, if that's the appetite out there in the media, we can play into that as well. we saw a preview at the debate,
and then rubio today really coming after trump today hard as trump. >> it was a pretty strong performance by rubio, as well. and he's not backing down. in fact, he's accelerating his attacks on donald trump today. so we'll show everybody a little bit of that. good to see you both. last night after months of largely laying off the republican front-runner, florida senator marco rubio turned his fire squarely on businessman donald trump. and this morning, he didn't let up. watch this. >> it's time to pull his mask off so people can see what we are dealing with here. what we are dealing here with, my friends, is a con artist. he is a con artist. he runs on this idea that he is fighting for the little guy, but he's spent his entire career sticking it to the little guy. his entire career!
>> that's a new voice from marco rubio, as we have seen and heard from the republican front-runner, he will and does punch back. let's go to trace gallagher who has more. >> reporter: the back and forth barrage of insults between trump and rubio was so prevalent today it felt more like a dean martin roast than a political campaign. many pundits believed trump was playing defense last night during the debate and today he was not backing down. beginning as you heard, calling donald trump a con man. trump responded with a twitter tirade, calling rubio a lightweight and choker, except he misspelled those words and rubio made sure everybody knows it. >> the problem is, he is a chocker. choker is i guess what he meant
to say. he spelled it chockeh. great honer. i don't know how he got that wrong. the e and the o are nowhere near each other on the keyboard. >> reporter: the rubio tweeted they must not have taught spelling at trump university. but trump hit back. watch. >> you ought to see him backstage. he was putting on makeup with a trowel. no, i don't want to say that. i will not say that he was trying to cover up his ears. i will not say that. no, he was just trying to cover up -- he was just trying to cover up the sweat that pours -- i never saw -- did you ever see a guy sweat like this? >> reporter: and marco rubio tried to turn the tables again, telling the crowd during last night's debate, trump was the
one who was clearly flustered. watch again. >> first he took out like this little makeup compact. it was like right here. because he had like a sweat mustache. and then he asked for a full-length mirror. why do you need a full-length mirror? the podium goes up to here. i said earlier maybe he was worried his pants were wet. >> all of the state of florida can't stand him and i'm up by 20 points and we're going to win florida. we're going to win florida. let me tell you. we're going to win it bigley. >> reporter: we should note ted cruz and donald trump also exchanged a few barbs, but today's news cycle was dominated rubio v. trump. >> joining me now is rich lowery and david wool is an attorney and donald trump supporter. gentlemen, thank you. good to have both of you here tonight. rich, wow, look at what they're talking about out there on the trail. you have donald trump praying water on people and talking
about how much marco rubio sweats and rubio doing imitations of trump putting on makeup. what's going on out there? >> a couple things. rubio had to go after trump. because he showed up at this moment and taken a pass on a talking donald trump, he would have seemed so weak. so it was important for him to come out punches and he came out punching in a way that's playing by donald trump's rules. and part of the reason trump has established a dominance in this race, he's established a dominance over every other candidate through interruptions, through ridicule, through mocking. so this is marco rubio's attempt to give trump some of his own medicine and beat him at his own game. but this is going to be a mud fest for the next three weeks. >> david, you're shaking your head. why? >> rubio has consultants who are telling him if you want to beat donald trump, you have to act like donald trump. but it isn't working. he doesn't have the same
swagger, and he's losing on the issues, too. he reminded me last night of a little kid screaming at his older brother and the older brother swatting him like a fly. marco is losing to virtually every issue in his home state. he's losing by 20 points. what a humiliation that is right now. i really don't know what he's going to do. on the substance and the emotion, he loses. two strikes. >> i want to ask you about what i see as sort of the project to legitimize donald trump. so he's legitimate among the supporters that he has. this week we had sort of the ground work of that. you had chris collins come out, duncan hunter came out and say we support donald trump. now you have people who don't support donald trump saying well, that's interesting. today, you have governor chris christie, who had choices obviously in terms of who to
support. but he went back to his friend, who he referred to his friend donald trump throughout many moments of this campaign. my guess is you may see people like rudy giuliani and mike huckabee joining this list in the near future, as well. >> we talked a lot in this race about how the rules are suspended and in many respects they have. but a couple rules haven't. which is momentum matters and victories are validating. trump has won three states in a row, and look, if kasich had won three states in a row, you better bet chris christie would not be endorsing donald trump today. so it's a front running choice, but this is the way politics works, and if the train keeps on moving down the tracks, you'll see a lot of folks in the republican establishment going to trump and further validating him. >> so two sides digging in. apparently to what we're learning tonight, david, there's a wave of money, of $20 million the number that is the starter number in terms of what is going to be coming at donald trump.
what do you say? >> yeah, who wouldn't want to jump on this winning trump train. christie may end up being the vice president if he's elected. he may end up being the attorney general. and other people are going to want a slice of this pie. right now, i don't think there's any doubt as to who is going to get the nomination. and the more power you build up with support from the quote unquote establishment legitimate gop, that puts the heat on hillary clinton who right now is facing her own troubles. but people think that maybe clinton versus trump alone wouldn't be enough for donald trump. this really does, and rich is right, this legitimizes everything. >> one thing we haven't seen yet against trump, and it's bizarre, since he's been the front-runner for months and months, is a sustained advertising assault on his greatest vulnerabilities, which is his spotty business record and the way he's taken advantage of the little guy. >> they sort of say, come on in, the water is fine to people who
may not have thought the water is fine. so we'll see how it works. >> and attacking him doesn't help -- it doesn't hurt, it helps him. >> guys, thank you very much. good to see you both. super tuesday could be the next pivotal moment in this presidential election if donald trump performs like he is performing. frank luntz asks a focus group what would happen if his winning streak continues. and you won't believe some of the answers. >> let's say the polling is correct and donald trump wins all but one or two states. what do you want to have happen at that moment? allergies distracting you? when your symptoms start... doctors recommend taking ...non-drowsy claritin every day of your allergy season. claritin provides powerful, non-drowsy 24 hour relief... for fewer interruptions from the amazing things you do every day. live claritin clear.
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just four days left for the candidates to make their case to voters ahead of super tuesday in those contests that will take place across the country. you have 12 states voting, nearly 600 delegates up for grabs that night. it is the biggest single day for the presidential candidates to date, and it could be the turning point in this nomination process. so if the polls are right, could be a very good night for one donald trump. here is frank luntz and his texas focus group on what it could mean for the rest of the field.
>> so let me ask you, texas republicans. let's say the polling is correct and donald trump wins all but one or two states. what do you want to have happen at that moment? should it be over? or do you think that it should go on another few weeks to give voters -- more voters a chance to be heard and give more opportunities for others, frankly, to take shots at donald trump? who wants it to end? if trump wins all but one or two states, who thinks it should be over? that's almost all of you. >> we need someone to beat hillary clinton that's all that matters. >> let's focus on the competition. >> exactly. >> stop the infighting. >> yes. >> we need to unite, because the democrats want us divided. we can't stand divided. >> who disagrees with that, who thinks it should go on? tell me why. >> it's not over until the people have voted. we can't just let a few states
decide the nominees. every state should get to vote before we christen a nominee. >> that's no sense going on if it doesn't make a difference. >> some things may come to light we don't expect. you have the northern states, the northeast. we need to listen to those people. >> but trump will have won just about every place. what else is any other state going to tell you? >> if it's a statistical situation, where he's going to win, it's done. >> i never think that it's done, because you got two other guys there. you got two guys and you can probably flip either one of them. cruz, trump, trump cruz, president, vice president. those two work for me. and if they did that, then that one on one competition, you'll have that. the only reason i believe -- >> but doesn't one on one bring out the worst in these people?
>> perpetuating this process just damages the ultimate process by giving the democrats more fodder. >> i think the process has to continue. we can't disenfranchise voters in so many other states. after super tuesday, at least two people will drop out. we started at 16. >> one of the arguments about the electoral college is you have the two biggest states that will decide and you can't disenfranchise. >> that's why texas moved their primary ahead. they got tired of not being counted. >> do we continue this process? >> it's a big risk. >> after super tuesday, you have two more weeks and then you have another bunch of states with a lot of electoral votes. so at that point, if trump is still cleaning everybody's plow,
then it's time to coalesce behind one candidate. >> somebody is going to get in a room with rubio and cruz and somebody is going to have to say you have to support me. what if the landscape changes? >> i have to ask you, is this productive? are debates like you have seen over the last few weeks when they've gone after each other, is this productive? >> it seems very repetitive at a point. we've heard the same positions and same arguments over and of. >> once we have the person we know will be there, let him take the lead, unify and beat hillary clinton. >> we are just sitting here beating each other up. >> they are loving it at this point. >> you even said yourself with this group, no one changed their mind. >> it's amazing. 23 people are here after watching over two hours. only three of you changed their minds.
people are coming to their points of view. but as one of you said, doesn't the rest of america have the right to be heard? >> they've been watching the same debates. they've been watching as many debates as we have. >> there's other states that are winner take all. we need to give like ohio a chance. >> i have one more question for you on this. what's more important to you, if you had to choose, the electability of the candidate or the policies of the candidate. when you're running against hillary clinton, which is the high priority, policy or electability. >> electability. >> who chooses electability, raise your hands? that's overwhelming. so even in texas, one of the most conservative states in the country, they still want to beat hillary clinton. am i correct. >> yes! >> back to you. >> very interesting. the people have spoken. breaking tonight, five candidates left in this race.
one man leading the pack. karl rove shows us how the super tuesday delegates could shake out. stick around for that. and charles on what you need to know from the top candidates. what should they be asked at this point that has not been asked that is significant? as the fight for the gop nomination heats up.
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super tuesday, now just four days away. 600 delegates will be spoken for and america will be that much closer to knowing who is in the driver's seat for the gop nomination. and a majority of polls, both nationally and at the state level, the numbers point to donald trump. but my next guest says he's not quite a lock just yet. joining me now is karl rove, former chief of staff to george w. bush, and a fox news contributor. a lot of people are saying when they see those numbers on the board and hear you say this is not a done deal, convince them why you're right. >> there are 11 primaries on tuesday, and 595 delegates at stake. that's about a quarter, not half, it's half of what is needed to nominate.
>> 1237. >> it's about a quarter ofdeleg. >> but you need 1237 to lock up the nomination. with almost 600 on tuesday, you're about halfway there. >> but nobody is going to get 595 delegates on tuesday, these contests are all proportional. so the key thing to remember is four of the states, including virginia with 49 delegates are purely proportional. so if you got 37% of the vote and you got 29 and 28, you'll have a close split. the key here, is to look at these states here where in the congressional districts they split 2-1. if you get more than 20% of the vote in my of these states, 108 delegates at the congressional district level in texas.
if you're the first place finisher over 20%, you get two delegates. if somebody else gets more than 20%, they get 2-1. this is where the winners will get a bigger bump. finally, this is where the danger, if you don't score well, where things happen, these states, including the two biggest states up for grabs, georgia and texas, have a 20% threshold. what does that mean? there are 44 delegates statewide in texas. if you get 20% of the vote that night, you get 20% of those 44 delegates, or about 17, you get 19% you get zero, and those 17 delegates are shared between the two candidates who get more than 20%. >> i see what you mean. >> my point is, it's -- i listened to somebody else on another network last night say well, somebody -- trump is going to get a mbig majority of the
delegates tuesday night. somebody is going to get chunk, and probably trump. but i doubt anywhere near a majority of a quarter of the delegates. >> i want to ask a quick question. in terms of the chris christie support today for donald trump, can you see a scenario, if these two sort of put it together, perhaps even a vice presidential nomination for chris christie, could you see a scenario where republicans take new york, new jersey, massachusetts, and the math really changes in that kind of setup? >> you could. you know, we're a long way away from the election, but it's odd to have a ticket, it's only happened twice -- excuse me once, in the history of the country where a candidate for president and his running mate are from adjoining states. that was 1992 and 1996 with al gore and bill clinton. so it would be unusual. so the question is, will that help them win florida? republicans have to win florida. otherwise, they lose the general
election. and is it going to help them winsome place in the midwest? i think it's a long shot that having a candidate from new york or having a candidate from new jersey is going to win. you may remember that was the theory behind the dukakis-lloyd benson ticket. didn't work out. >> we've seen so many strange things in this cycle and donald trump calling it a new republican party. interesting look at the numbers for tuesday night. karl, thanks a lot. >> you bet. thank you. we're just coming off the tenth republican date of the 2016 cycle, but questions remain about each candidate. so what still needs to be asked? there are always those nagging questions, right? joining me now is a look at this is a political columnist at "the washington times." good to see you tonight. >> good to see you. >> you watch these debates. i'm at home watching it last night like everybody else, and you're like, why don't they ask
this or that. there are still things that people need to be pressed on, and issues that really haven't been touched or people haven't had to sort of, you know, come up with a lot of the information on their own. they are being handed a lot of it and saying, what do you think? what would you do, charles if >> of course. and you have to remember all the questions that have been asked that haven't been answered. >> absolutely. >> but i think with marco rubio, probably the biggest question that he needs to be asked and needs to answer is when he won the surprise victory to become florida senator, he was a rock star in the conservative movement. he was -- the tea party loved this guy. he picked off a governor that had betrayed -- the tea party didn't like. and he came here and the one important -- most important thing he's done here in washington is to make a deal with democrats on immigration,
which is the single most important issue for the republican base. and the question he needs to answer is, how does he expect -- if it goes to november, how does he expect to win back those voters? because if you don't have that base, you're not going to win. and he also needs to answer what honestly has he learned? he says he learned lessons that well, you have to build the wall first. he should have already learned that. that's a lesson that republicans have been learning for 30 years. but it doesn't seem -- >> he's gotten that question a lot. first, you have to secure the border and then we'll figure out what the people say yes to in terms of immigration reform. what about donald trump, what would you ask him? >> i think the fairest hit on donald trump has been the lack of specifics on a lot of very important issues. now, he has given -- put out position papers on immigration, guns and taxes. and there were a lot of specifics in there.
and they were very conservative ideas. i think that other candidates and the media should pressure him. last night he talked about slashing government slashing the epa, slashing the department of education. all this sounds great. but pressuring him, put out position statement it is he doesn't want to bore people with the specifics. put out a position paper with what he would do with obamacare and with. i think it would be absolutely fascinating. and if it's specificity and his ideas are anything like the ones we've seen in the past, it might help him. and it might assuage a lot of people's concerns about him. >> he needs to convince people that he understands the situation between sunnis and shia and what's going on in the middle east and the religious liberty question is one they could have gotten more from him last night in terms of what his feelings are about the religious liberty fight in america. so there's still lots of time for more questions here. thank you so much, charlie. good to see you. >> thanks, martha.
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schumer, harry reid. >> and the next president of the united states, you ask him to respond and say that he would appoint conservative justices, but if you look at his record, on issue at issue, he's not been on our side. >> if you're in the business of selling things, if you're not going to sell to somebody you don't agree with, today i'm not going to sell to somebody who is gay. tomorrow i won't sell to somebody who is divorced. >> even though everybody has the same rights, nobody has extra rights. nobody can redefine something and then have them confirm to it. >> last night's gop debate proving the issue of religious liberty will be central in the 2016 race, compelled not just by the unsuspected death of justice antonin scalia, but by cases like sweet cakes by melissa, a bakery forced to shut down after the owners forced to bake a cake for a same-sex marriage
ceremony, and being fined for $135,000. the owners, melissa and aaron klein join us, bragging their gag order. but first, trace galler has more. >> the woman who walked into the bakery asking to have a cake baked for her same-sex marriage was a repeat character. as devout christians, aaron and melissa said no, explaining that baking a cake for a same-sex wedding would violate their beliefs. listen. >> i feel i should, just like they should live their life the way they want to, i should live the way i want to. >> but the lesbian couple filed a complaint with the state of oregon and the state sided with them, saying it's against oregon law to refuse service because of sexual orientation. the same law includes exemptions
for schools and religious organizations but not private business. the kleins were ordered to pay the lesbian couple $135,000 and were told to stop talking about how they won't service same-sex weddings. they refused to pay the judgment, but have since allowed the money to be placed in an escrow account peeling the outcome of their appeal. we should note some of the money was funded by a go fund me account. both sides maintain because of this case they routinely get hate mail and cakes. sweet cakes closed their store. >> joining me now, aaron and melissa klein and their attorney. welcome to all of you. >> thanks for having us. >> you still get threats and angry letters. what form do they take? >> they usually come in the form
of e-mails, just because that's the only way right now people can get ahold of us. when this first all happened, we had people break into our vehicles. that was a little disturbing. but yeah, they've just -- it's been three years, and we're still getting these. >> aaron, did you ever think when she walked into the bakery and you said, i'm sorry, but we can't do this. we served you many times in this bakery, but we feel making a cake -- because i heard how you described this. it's such a personal thing. we feel like we're part of your wedding because of this. that's just not something we want to do. did you ever think you would be sitting here today three years later having lost your business because of that moment, ever want to take it back? >> you know, the thing about my faith, about what we believe, it's just such a thing that when you turn your life over to christ and you see what he's done for you, you're all in for him.
so in a situation like this, if i have to choose, i make the choice on the side of my savior. so this is not something that i ever want to take back. however, it's not something i would ever have to fight with the government over. this is something i believe should never be happening in this country. >> you heard candidates talking about this. and john kasich said no. what are you going to do? what are you going to do when somebody that's divorced comes in, are you not going to serve them ea them either? >> we don't have a litmus test for customers that come in. >> it makes no sense to what he said. we never rejected a customer. we said no, thank you to an event. it's a such different scenario to what he thinks it is. >> you think this case, which is before the oregon court of appeals sometime in 2016, you believe that there's a good chance this will go to the supreme court. >> it very well could, martha. and thanks for having us. this is one of the first cases
that faces two questions. and that is, in thissera we're living in today, if someone has sincerely main stream beliefs like on the issue of marriage, can the government punish them for speaking those beliefs and can the government order them, as they've been ordered to, that they can't discuss aspects of their beliefs? we're trying to make sure that they don't violate the gag order that oregon has put on them. but the fact that we're in an era -- >> why is there a gag order on them? >> they have been told that if they were to say -- if they're discussing the past that's one thing. but they have been ordered they cannot say, write, or otherwise communicate with facebook, twitter, whatever, anything that could lead someone to believe that they might decline to participate in a same-sex wedding in the future, since that would be violate thing oregon statute. it would be as if they were advertising their ongoing -- >> so as if they were committing
another crime. >> that's right. so they have been ordered to stop sharing that. we need to be a country where people cannot just share their faiths without being punished, but the free exercise of religion is a whole separate part of the constitution, and that is the right to live your life peaceably. >> the supreme court will say, well, you can't tell someone they can't sit on a bus in a certain area, that it's discrimination. >> this country, after the civil war, adopted a whole series of constitutional amendments that eradicate and mandate the end of racial discrimination. so in this case, we defend religious liberty consistent with the constitution. the other amendments are part of the constitution, too. that's why these hypotheticals never happened, because both of those issues are in the constitution. >> you're saying those have been dealt with.
>> that's right. dealt with at the constitutional level, that's right. >> very interesting. i'm sorry for what you guys have gone through and thank you for coming here tonight and talking about it. we'll watch this case as it moves forward and see if it goes to the supreme court. thank you very much. good to have you here. so as we've been saying, super tuesday is now just around the corner, folks. you might be excused. that's also a democratic race on the books tomorrow. could bernie beat the long odds in the pal meadow state? we'll talk about that coming up next. you'll ask
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all right. focus, everybody. less than 24 hours from the democratic south carolina primary. joining me now, former and executive -- founder and director i should say of the accountability project and mark hannah, former obama aide campaign. everybody is all accounted for. welcome. good to see you. what are you watching for tomorrow night? >> i think we look at the gotv. get out the vote campaign and
it's pretty much in the bag for clinton. we pundits are supposed to manage expectations downward and so it seems like a big surprise when hillary clinton wins. i won't play that game. she is going to win and big. the question is whether she can parlay that momentum into super tuesday. i think she can. >> who else do they have? i mean, look at the combination, bernie sanders i know you've been supportive of. doesn't look like he has the momentum and the generated enthusiasm certainly has in the northeast down south. >> the problem here is that the established relationship with the african-american leadership in south carolina and among those communities, the leadership, the democratic machine is still alive and strong. unlike the rest of the country including the northeast, the machine died out. gentrification changed the communities. the african-americans communities not served by the clintons in the past 20 years and even so much so that bill
clinton himself said that he regrets a lot of the crime bill, you know, accepting money from prison industries, more african-americans in prison under his time in office. i mean, these are -- there's a direct correlation of the clintons not serving the african-american community and all about chance. it's about cashing in chits here. relationships. ex expectations. >> what you see on the gop side, too, though, sometimes people don't care about that stuff. >> exactly. >> might work for the super delegates. not always in the electorate. >> it doesn't matter. clinton campaign is stronger with the support of the party leadership doesn't matter polling by some polls 30%, 50% ahead of bernie sanders with african-american voters. this is just -- >> democratic party wish they had more alternatives at this point? >> not at all. they like hillary clinton, electable in the general election. >> she had half of the delegates in august. >> we'll be right back. my school reunion's coming fast.
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so here's the friday night party game. who do you think wins super tuesday? what states? when? where? tell us what you think. thank you for watching, everybody. have a great weekend. we'll see you monday. welcome to beautiful nashville, tennessee, where we are on the road with the candidates and tonight for the entire hour, we're joined by texas senator ted cruz. welcome to nashville, senator. [ cheers and applause ] it's -- now, i don't -- were you busy last night? was something going on last snigt did everyone see the debate last snigt that was a rip roaring debate. >> well, listen. i