the vibe tuesday at midnight eastern time as we are going to recap the primary reports from florida, illinois, and north carolina and missouri, and good night. thank you to my guests. i'm greg gutfeld, and i love you, america. welcome to a special edition of special report, i'm bret baier coming to you from gem theater in downtown detroit. in a moment, the first of two democratic candidates are going to take the stage at this town hall, but first, we'll check the stories making headlines today. >> former new york mayor -- >> live from the headquarters i'm leah gabriel. marco rubio winning the contest in washington, d.c., and he picks up ten delegates, and kasich will get nine delegates,
and trump and cruz getting none. and in wyoming, senator marco rube owe and donald trump getting one, and cruz will win those. and so here is the delegate count among the candidates. donald trump is in first, and then ted cruz and marco rubio and john kasich. and today, a day for donald trump as protesters were disrupting his rally in kansas city, and at one point, he called for them to be arrested and charged. >> and you know, this place is packed. we have thousands of people outside trying to get in, and these people are taking their place. it is not fair. >> one man was tackled by secret service after one man charged trump. remember to keep it here on fox news channel for the headlines.
i'm lea gabriel. >> and now, the first candidate on stage, vermont senator, bernie sanders. >> thank you. [ applause ] thank you. >> they are feeling the bern here. >> okay. >> all right. s senator, thank you for being here. >> my pleasure. >> i want to et get first your reaction that the former new york mayor michael bloomberg has decided not to run as an independent an hour ago? >> well, that is his decision. what does concern me, bret, on the broader scale is mr. bloomberg is a billionaire and i think it is a bad idea for american democracy that the only people who feel in many ways that they can run for president are people who have so much money. one of the things that we
believe in, in this campaign is to overturn the disastrous citizens united preem court decision so all people can run for office, and not just the people who have a whole lot of money, and with the political ramifications of it are that, it is -- i don't know. >> and last night you had the debate in flint, and you said something that caused a little by of a stir on social media and among the political analysts who cover this race. you said this, quote, when you are white, you don't know what it is like to be poor. different communities interpreted that different ways, and what did you mean by that? >> what i meant, look, there is no candidate in this race who has talked more about poverty than i have, and one of the thing th things that is disturbing me, and media does not often cover that. we have 47 million people in the country living in poverty, and that a higher rate than any other country in the industrialized world, and we have the highest rate of childhood poverty than any other industrialized nation on earth. and i talk about poverty all of
the time. and what i meant is that in african-american communities, you have people living in desperation, and often abused by white police officers, and that is a bad thing, and that has to change, and that is why i am fighting to reform a broken criminal justice system, but i know about white poverty, because it exists in my state, and all over this country, and in the richest country in the history of the world, we have more income, and wealth inequality than any other major country, and we have too many people living in poverty, and we have to change our national priorities and deal with that issue. >> senator -- [ applause ] -- you also seemed in the debate taken aback by secretary clinton's vote on the auto bailout loan. and there were back checks, and they sided with you on the votes. is this part of the problem running for president from the u.s. senate to explain cloin cl votes, and that type of thing? >> yes, as you know, bret, there
are large pieces of legislation which are good and bad cases. and in this case, there was one vote to support the automotive industry, and i believe, and of cour course, i knew at the time that if that industry went down, millions of job, and not only in michigan and ohio but all offthis country would be impa impacted, and of course, i voted in the one senate vote that i had the opportunity to vote to support the automobile industry. what i did not vote for was the pailout of -- bail out out of w street, and that is what secretary clinton did vote for. and so i lost what they called a voice vote is to ask the wealthiest people in the country to pay a surtax. they are the people by and large who benefited from the illegal behavior of wall street. and i thought that rather than have the middle-class and
working families of this country bailout wall street, i wanted the 1% to bail out wall street. >> senator, there are widespread believes that medicare and medicaid and social security are the drivers of the national increasing debt now approaching $20 trillion and you know, and without reforms of the programs, we are head in order the debt crisis, and you have the congressional daet office a-- d office extending out that we will not have money for mill ta and other programs and the like, and you have a big tax increase program, but you plan to spend $18 trillion on the programs. so how do you present a debt crisis? >> okay. number one of the $18 trillion, much of it is being spent to have the united states drawing the rest of the industrialized world in guaranteeing health
care to all people. and what that means is that in fact the average middle-class family, you see sh, with that $ trillion does not include the fact that the middle-class family in the middle of the economy would save about $5,000 a year on their health care costs, and this is part of the medicare for all program. i happy to believe and i know that not everybody agrees with many, but i believe that health care is a right of all people. i believe that there is something wrong when we are spending -- >> excuse me, where where did that right come from in your mind? >> being a human being. being a human being. what i believe, bret, and you may disagree with many, but i believe that if she is poor, and you are rich, she is entitled to the same quality health care that you have, because she is a human being. but in any case, when we talk
about our health care system, and this is important to note, that it is not just that we have 29 million people without health insurance, and we have many more underinsure and we are ripped off big time by the pharmaceutical industry who are charging the higher prices in the world, but that we end up spending, and you can explain this to people maybe, why do we spend three times more than the british do per person for health care, and why 50% more than the french, and why do we pay the highest prices in the world for drugs. >> senator, health care, but my question is about the federal debt, and currently at $19.1 trillion and the cbo says that the debt will rise to $10 trillion by the fy-2016, and the the end of 2026, $29.3 trillion at the end of 2026. >> well, bret, of the $19 that you were talking about, $15 was health care, and if you exclude that, let's talk about the
others. in the year 2016, when we talk about public education, it means to me that a college degree to today in many respects is what a high school degree is 50 years ago, so when we talk about public education, we have to make public colleges and universities tuition, free, and we have to substantially lower the student debt, because young people should not be forced to pay off the debts for 50 years. how do you pay for that, and that is going to be the question. well, when the illegal behavior on wall street caused this country to collapse into the worst economic downturn since the great depression, the united states congress against my vote, and hillary clinton and i d disagree, because she roted for it, and i voted against it, but congress passed a bailout. well, i think that right now, we should impose a tax on wall street speculation, and if wall street's turn to help the middle-class of this country pay for the public college, so i think that we pay for that.
>> and let me just finish up here, and get to the questioners. one of the most interesting trends to emerge from the exit and the entrance polls this year so far is which of you is honest and trustworthy, and in state after state for those who value honest and trustworthy l there s is a massive gulf between you and senator clinton. nevada, 82/12, and new hampshire, 8 -- 92/6, and iowa 83/10, so do you share what the supporters say that h hillary clinton is not honest and trustworthy? >> well, i will let the voters decide, but for me, super tuesday, my own state of vermont voted and essentially the people who know you the best are your own neighbors. i have represented vermont in congress now for 25 years, and i am very proud that i received 86% of the vote in my home stat state. >> let's go to the first can
questioner. senator, this is clark who is a occupational developer for henry ford systems. >> my question has to do with the first-generation american watching what happens in the middle east horrified, because that is where my fa this ther is from, and the fact that isis is going to perpetuate genocide and i would like to know how you and of your edadministration would address that? >> well, i thank you for the question. and we can all agree that isis is a barbaric organization that needs to be destroyed and the question is how do we do it most effective effectively. and one of the differences between secretary clinton and myself is that i voted against the war in iraq, and she voted for the war in iraq. in many ways, a lot of the turmoil in the ip stability that we are seeing right now resulted from the disastrous decision.
the lesson that i have learned from the war in iraq is that the united states cannot and should not do it alone. we have to work in coalition. king abdulelah of jordan made a very profound statement a couple of months ago when he said that what is going on there right now is a war for the soul of islam. and the people who have got the most effectively to deal with that issue is the muslim nations themselves, and they are on the ground who have to destroy isis. and i agree with that. i will do everything that i can to keep american troops out of the perpetual warfare in the middle east, but along with a coalition of the major countries on earth, the united states, uk, france, and russia, and i believe that we should support the muslim troops on the ground with air attacks with military equipment, and with all of the help that we can provide.
but it should not be our troops on the ground for many, many reasons. >> and senator, if i could follow up. you think that what is happening to the christians in the middle east should be classified as genocide? >> look, what is happening to christians in the middle east in that area is horrific. what is happening to muslims is horrific. it is the disgusting, and i don't -- [ applause ] -- i don't know that we have to put a word on it, but when you have a group, i mean, what can we say about these people? they are killing children, because they are going to school. and girls who are going to school, and they are putting girls in sexual slavery, and this is barbarism. >> george sanders. >> ri will speak for the american public, you are more honest than hillary and a trump
supporter. and my question for you is that you talk about the rich and by taxing the rich to help the economyings wouldn't that hurt those rich business owners who create jobs? >> george, good question. and i disagree with you in this sense, we have opout -- we have to put in contex what has happened in the last 30 year, and you may know, and you can tell me if you disagree with me, but there is a massive transfer of wealth from the working class and the middle-class to the top wealthy class, and now we are seeing a doubling of the 0.0 # 1 which owns the most wealth as the bottom 90%. so almost all of the major corporations in the country, you know what they have been doing in the last 30 years, have they been creating jobs in america? no, in china and mexico, and one of the strong differences of opinions that secretary clinton and i have, and i have helped to
lead the opposition against every one of the terrible trade programs. nafta and other trade relations with china, because american workers should not be forced to compete with the desperate people around the world who are making pennies per hour, and if elected president, george, i am going to be changing the trade policies, and corporations will be investing in america and not china, but i do not believe in the trickle down ecomonic. i do not believe that you give the tax breaks to the rich and the large corporations, suddenly, it comes down to help the working families, but what i do believe is that we have to put more money into the hands of the working families, and how do you do that? you live the minimum wage to a living wage. you know, i was in flint, michigan, obviously, last night, and several other locations, but our infrastructure, and it is not just, jorng, flint where the
kids are drinking poisoned water, but it is our roads an bridges and airports, and why is it that the healthiest world in the history of the world, our infrastructure is collapsing. so we have to do away with the tax loopholes. it is not appropriate to have major corporations making billions of dollars a year, and stashing the profits in the cayman islands and bermuda and you know what they pay? not a nickel in federal taxes. they should pay tax, and we use that money to rebuild the inf infrastructure, and we create 15 million jobs over the text ten years. so i think that you and i have a difference. >> all right. s senator, and next questioner -- dr. shwati who is a physician. >> i want to help you to articulate your health care plan to what you see as a transition
to the vision of you? >> i just said to bret that the health kcare is a right of all people, and secretary clinton is suggesting that if we go from the affordable care act where we are today, i will dismantle the entire health care system, and children will lose the c.h.i.p. program, and elderly will lose, and that is nonsense. every other country has a national health program of one kind or another, and right now in america, we have 29 million people who have no health insurance at all. and what i believe in is that we have a program called medicare which needs improvement, but it is a popular and important program for seep your snior citd i believe that the program should be expanded to all american americans. and when we do that -- when we do that, we make our health care
system much more cost effective, because we get, and we end a whole lot of the administration, and if you are a physician, my ges is that you have is spent half of the life arguing with the insurance companies, is that right? and people are out there filling out the forms, and the reason ta we are so much more expensive than other countries is the way that we have huge bureaucracy in the health kcare system, and we pay way too much for prescription drug, and to answer the question, i believe that we move in a medicare to a medicare for all health care system, and more cost effective, and covers everybody. >> and doctor, let me ask you, are you worryied about the transition, and is that the genesis of the question? >> what is your sghern. >> well, a number of the candidates say we will repeal obama care, and change this or that, and we have a current system, and -- >> right. >> i don't see how you make the leap from where we are to where somebody else wants to be. >> and so i mean, that is what secretary clinton is trying to
frighten people about. as somebody who has spent my entire life to fight for universal health care, i assure you that we aren't going to be leaving people out, and we need to cover more people. and one thing, we talked about 90% of americans having insuran insurance, and that is the good thing, and we have made progress on it, and now, i was on the committee that helped to write the affordable care act, but as you know, we have millions of people in the country who may have health insurance, but they are underinsured with high e deductibles and high co-payments and so people are walking into the office who are much sicker than they should have been, because they did don't in because of the high deductible, and no insurance at all, and that is crazy stuff. i want every american to walk into the doctor's office when they should. and i do not want to continue to see 1 of 5 americans not being able to after aed for the prescription drugs that their doctors prescribe, and i don't
want to see the elderly people cut their pills in half, and i don't want to see it at the same time the three major drug companies in the country making $40 billion in profits. so many people cannot afford the medicines, and that is what we are talking about. >> thank you, doctor. another health care-type questi question. senator, can you name a single circumstance at any point in the pregnancy at which you would be okay with abortion legal. >> look, this is not about me being okay. thank you for the question, bret. i want to be clear about this, and not everybody is going to agree with me, but i happy to believe that it is wrong for the government to be telling a woman what to do with her own body. i believe and i know that there are honest people, and some supporters and some disagree
with me and they have a different poichbt view, and that is all right, i respect, that and i will change my view, but there is something that i don't like in this day is that there are a lot of people who tell me that the government is awful, and terrible, and get the government off of my back, and my republican friends want to cut the medicare and the medicaid and the education, but somehow on this issue, they want to tell every woman in america what she should do with her body. >> the genesis of the question is that there some democrats who say that after five months with the exception of the life of the mother or the health of the baby that perhaps that is something to look at, and you are saying, no. >> i am strongly pro choice, and it is a decision to be made by the woman, her physician and her family, and that my deal. >> and the next question is daniel balm. >> hey, daniel. >> how do you plan on enacting all of the legislative goals that you propose without immense
congressional involvement and support. and in other words, are you solely relying on the executive actions to rely on the agenda? >> no, i couldn't do that and it is unconstitutional and it can't happen. this is what i do believe. i believe that for example and i look at you as a young man that, i want to see public colleges and universities tuition-free. i want to create millions of jobs rebuilding the crumbling infrastructure, and guarantee the health care to all people, and make sure that the women have pay equity on the job, and i want to do a lot of other things, so i have to aps your question in two ways. first of all, i have worked with the republicans where there has been common ground for many, many years. a couple of years ago i was the chairman of the senate committee on veteran aftfair, and working with people like john mccain, jeff miller over in the house, and he was chairman in house republican, and we put together the most comprehensive veteran's health care bill, and so number
one, i can work with the republican, and this is a second point and i'm the only candidate who will tell you this, at the end of the day, you have a congress to today where too many members are worryied about securing large campaign contributions from very, very wealthy people. in fact, one of the differences of secretary clinton and i, she has a super pac and collected a whole bunch of money from wall streetb and i have 5 million contributions averaging $27 apiece, and i don't say that to brag -- well, i am bragging. that what goes on in washington now is congress is not listen to you. congress is not listening to people in this room, and the needs of ordinary people. congress is listening to wall street, to multi national corporations to large campaign contribut
contributors, a what i have said throughout the the campaign and i will repeat it tonight, no president, not bernie sanders or anybody else can do it alone. so to fundamentally answer your question, what we need are millions of people, many of whom have given up on the political process in disgust, and many young people who have not been involved in the political process, and we need them top come together and demand that we have a government in this country that is going to represent all of us, and not just wealthy cal pain contributor contributors. >> to follow up, daniel, you have bold prescriptions for the country. >> yes. >> and you are dealing with the republican congress and how do you convince the republican congress to do exactly opposite of what they believe. >> and in two ways. first, if i become president, it is going to mean that there is a massive voter turnout, and that is what we are seeing in maine,
and where i got 64% of the vote in the caucus, and broke their caucus record for turnout, and in kansas, broke their caucus record, and if i win, it will mean that young people, and working class people are coming out in large numbers and if that happens the republicans will not be able to control the u.s. senate and they will have a lot less seats in the house. but this is the point. if the american people begin to stand up to fight for their rights, and for example, of wheming support in the country, bret, to raise the minimum wage. the republicans don't want to do it. but if the republicans look out, and millions of people are engaged and say, you poe what, you will engage or learn what unemt employmeu unemployment will go up. and if women become mobilize and say, we are tired of working for 79 cents on the tlar compared to en many, you better believe that it will change. so my point is that change in
this country whether it is civil rights movement, the women's movement, the gay movement, whatever it is, and workers rights movement, and it always comes from the bottom on up, and that is what this campaign is about, mobilizing millions of people to demand that the congress listen to them, and change happens that way. >> and who is your favorite republican? >> well, i will tell you something fun nishgs i won't tell, but i have a favorite republican people that i work with, and if i tell you, that person, it is a disservice to that person. >> i want to keep the answer tight, because we are running up against the time. this is retired college professor richard scott. >> senator sanders, welcome to detroit. >> thank you. >> i want to know if you can e lab rate on the policies that you want to expand to help infrastructures of cities like detroit and flint. >> absolutely. in the wealthiest country in the history of the world, we should not be having a flint michigan.
that is beyond disgraceful, and in my state of vermont, we have bridges in desperate need of repair, and the roads all over the countries are falling apart, and we have a rail system that at one point was the best of the world and no longer is. we have in my view to transform the energy system away from the fossil fuel to sustainable energy so we can effectively combat climate change. what i have proposed is to extend a trillion dollars over a five-year period to make sure that states and cities throughout this country have the resources that they need to rebuild our crumbling infrastructur infrastructure, and by the way, a trillion may seem like a lot of money, but the american society of civil engineers tells us that we need more, and it is
a good start. and what happen when we invest $ $# 1 trillion in the roads and bridges and water systems, and educational systems so that the kids get a education, we will create over 13 million jobs, and that is what we have to do in my view. >> and your senior aid that you might be offered if you weren't the nominee, the v.p. slot, and would you take it? >> we are talking about running this campaign to win to become president of the united states. not for vice president. >> thank you, senator sanders. >> thank you. thank you, all, ladies and gentlemen. >> ladies and gentlemen, senator bernie sanders. and coming up, hillary clinton is going to join us here as our "special report" continues from detroit live. account for him. yes yes. great
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welcome back to this s welcome back to the special edition of "special report" a democratic town hall from detroit. please join me in welcome iing former secretary of state hillary clinton. >> hi. hello. bret, how are you? >> good. >> great to see you. hi, mayor. hi, janet. hey, debbie. >> thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having us. >> so, i want to start out with the breaking news about michael bloomberg deciding not to make an independence run this year, and your thoughts on that? >> well, i have the greatest respect for mike bloomberg. we worked together during the eight years that i was in the senate, and he was elected as you know, shortly after i joined, and he has to make his own decisions, but i look
forward to continuing to work with him, and finding ways that he can show leadership which he has done so well over the years. >> i want to ask you some questions that have not come up in the town halls or the debates. one of them is about libya. you were leading the voice in the obama administration about intervention, and intervention that toppled khadafy's dick dictatorship using smart power and important to point out no u.s. casualties or resources expended. and however, now, libya is in total chaos, and they said that isis had taken advantage of the political, and the security vacuum expanding to the west, and east and south, and while the financial resources are dwindling, and the criminal networks including human smuggling are booming. so if libya was one with of the great foreign policies one of your great interventions, is the post one of the greatest
failures? >> well, in context, bret. let's talk about what was going on in the time, and it is the so-called arab spring, and people in libya living under the dictatorship of ka gau -- khadafy for 40 years began to rise up. and he is was a routeless dictator and ronald reagan as you know tried to take him out because of the danger he tried to impose, and once it was clear that the people of libya were trying to get a better future, and he basically said that he would hunt them down like cockroaches. and the europeans who had a connection going back many decades were absolutely intent upon working with us in nato. for the first time arab countries stepped up, and said, that we will work with nato, because this man has paid for efforts to understood mine us,
assassinate the leaders and all around bad kascharacter, and so did join with the european and arab partners, and he was overthrown, and let's also remember that the libyan people have voted twice in free and fair elections for moderate leaders trying to get themselves to the better future, and now what has happened is that deeply regrettable. there have been forces coming from the outside, internal squabbles that have led to the instability that has given terrorist groups including isis a foothold in some parts of libya. and it is fair to say that if there had not been the intervention to go after khad y khadafy, we would be looking at something much more resembling syria now than what we face in libya >> and some people say that libya is a failed state and concern concerned about isis getting power. would you get u.s. troops on the ground in libya to prevent isis
from getting a foothold. >> not u.s. combat troops, and we are from the headlining using the special forces to go after isis leaders, and i wanted to stress the point i was making. leaving a dictator in place like the iranians and the russians have done with assad and we have at least 250,000 people killed, libya, the numbers are minuscule in comparison, and about 1,500 last year, and there a concerted effort the u.n. and others are really working hard to try to unify the different elements within the country, and so,s it has been a couple of year, and they have not been as successful as the neighbor tunisia, but they are attempting to move forward and we ought to be supporting them not only with the special forces and the air strikes againstt helping them to security the borders and dealing with the internal challenges they face. >> i want to ask you a question i asked senator sanders. should a child have any legal rights or protections before it
is born or any restrictions on any abortions at any stage in a pregnancy. >> again, in context, because it is an important question. right now, the supreme court is considering a decision that would shutdown a lot of the options for women in texas, and there have been other legislatures that have taken similar steps to try to restrict a woman's right to obtain the an aborti abortion. under "roe v. wade" which is rooted in the constitution, the women have the right to make a highly personal decision with their faith, and doctor, and it is not a right if it is totally limited and constrainted, so we have to continue -- so we have to continue to stand up for a woman's right to make these decision, and to defend planned parenthood which does an enormous amount of good work
across the country. >> and just to say no, without any exceptions. >> i have been on record in favor of a late preg nnancy regulation that would have exceptions for the life and health of the mother. i object to the recent effort in congress to pass a law saying that after 20 weeks no such exceptions, because although they are rare, bret, they are sometimes arising in the most complex difficult medical situations. >> fetal mall form tis and that. >> and stress to the woman's health, and so i think that -- it is under "roe v. wade" it is appropriate to say that in these circumstances, so long as are there is an exception for the life and health of the mother. >> secretary clinton, i know that you have said that you are not worry died about what you c
the security review of your private service and the private e-mails as your time of secretary, and the fbi investigation is still hanging over the campaign, and there are democrats still worried about the potential shoe dropping with the immunity of your former i.t. staff member bryan pagliano, and you chose not to answer the e-mail part, but i want to ask a few questions on this before we take audience questions on this specific policy. i have heard some say that neither you nor your lawyers are a target of the investigation. >> absolutely true. >> have you and your lawyers been apprised that you or any members of the current staff are targets of the investigation? >> absolutely not. >> at the time that you and your staff deleted nearly 32,000 e-mails were you aware that the server is going to be sought by federal authorities. >> let me clarify this and there
is a lot of misinformation going around here, and let me start with the facts. i have said it is not my best choice to the yuse a personal server and e-mail, and i am not alone with that and many people in the government past and current on occasion or as a prk a tis have done the same, and nothing i sent was marked classified or that i received was marked classified and specifically with respect to your question which is a legal theory and not just a theory, but a legal rule gets to choose what is personal and what is official. what we turned over were more than 30,000 e-mails that i assumed were already in the government system, bret, because they were sent to state.gov addresses. >> sure, but some that were recently discover and turned over. >> no, that is the state department and not me. i have turned of everything. >> the state department has
redacted and returned 101 of your e-mails that were returned as classified and 22 classified top secret and you have said at a march press conference in 2015, quote, i dead not e-mail any classified e-mail to anyone on my e-mail, and there is no classified e-mail, and can you say that is not an accurate statement? >> no. the state department has a process for determining what is or isn't classified. if they determine it is, they mark it as classified. >> well, who decides? >> the state department decides. >> what about you when you type an e-mail? >> no, the state department decides, and let me go a step further,ly reiterate because it is a fact that nothing i sent or received was marked classified. and now, what happens when you ask or when you are asked to make information public is that it is reviewed and then different agencies come in with their opinions, and as you know,
recently, colin powell's e-mail s were retroactively classified from more than e tep years ago, and he said it is an absurdity and i could not agree more. >> so your contention is that 101 e-mails contained information that should not have been classified any time them or now, and it should haven't been classified? >> well, i am saying that it wasn't at the time, and take, mary smith who has some information in the government, and she is freedom of information act, foia'd, and then that information goes through the process and even though the agency that she has worked in said it is not cl classified, others have a chance to weigh n and others might say, you know, that wasn't at the time, but now with circumstances, we don't want to
release it, so therefore, we have to classify it. i have asked, and i havek coed colin powell on it, reelise it, and once the american people see it, they will know how absurd this is, and colin powell and i are on the same page. >> and i want to get to a couple of the audience members there. and i want to turn to professor douglas feric who is president of the united way. >> oh, i love the united way. >> welcome the detroit. my question surrounds how you anticipate getting anything done in washington when compromise is a bad word. >> you know, this one of the most important questions for everybody in washington, and not just the next president. i will tell you what i have dnen and what i intend to do. when i was first lady, senator, secretary of state, i worked closely with the republicans, and some of the most partisan republicans, and after we failed to get health care done in
1993/1994, i turned around and started to working with democrats and republicans to pass the childrens health insurance plan which is 8 million kids insured. and i also worked because i care deeply about the foster care and adoption with one of the most partisan republicans in the congress, tom delay, but he cared about the foster kids, and i asked congressman to work with me to work with the adoption of the foster care system. and he said, what do you want to do, and i said, will you come to the white house, and we will find common ground on that is e issue. when i got to the senate, i worked with some of the people who had been the biggest critics and opponents of my husband's presidency, and we found common ground. i worked with i think that nearly all if not all of the republicans that i served with. and when i became secretary of state i did the same.
i am not saying it is easy. i know that as my friend debbie dingell would say, you have to get up and work and find common ground and the other thing that i will say is funny is that when i am not running for anything, the republicans say really nice things about me, and i have a whole archive of those commens,s because i did work with them, and i will go anywhere to work with them at any time, and i will stand my common ground, becausely disagree with some of the things that they want to do, but the point is so important. our founders created a system where they made clear no human being has all of the answers. you have to have to work togeth together. they had some really intense disagreements, but they kept working until they could come to some compromise. compromise is not a dirty word. it is the way democracy has to work. that is what i will do.
>> thank you, douglas, for the question, and i asked secretary clinton, of senator sanders, what is your sense of the senate and getting something passed. >> i worked with susan collins from maine and john mccain and i worked together to raise money for the rehabilitation hospital in san antonio for the returning v veterans, and we joined with others to work on some important issues, and so i have good relations with a lot of republicans, but i hesitate to mention anymore names, because it is going to hurt them, and i want to work with them this and not hurt them. >> and that is what senator sanders said. >> hi. >> and thank you for fulfilling my question, and being in education, policy, phd candidate i am worried about the
confluence of poverty and education, and what that can yield in terms of the crime. i know that in 1994 you supported the crime bill and i would like the foe what were your reasons of supporting it, and hypothetically if that bill were still on the table today, would you support it? >> well, you know, as we said last night, both senator sanders and i did support it. i didn't have a vote, but he did vote for it, and why? because there was a very serious crime challenge. even an epidemic in at loft communities in the country at that time. so there were some positive things that were in the crime bill to try to deal with the threat of crime that really had so many serious consequences for people across our country. but as my husband said last summer at the naacp, there were problems that were solved, but there were mistakes made in that bill.
and one of them though it was just about the federal system, it set off a chain reaction where more and more people ended up being incarcerated who in my opinion should not have been, and low-level offenders, and non-violent offenders, and we have to rip away the school to prison pipeline and replace wit with a cradle to college pipeline, and in order to do that, we need to have a comprehensive approach. so yes, we have to improve the criminal justice system, and divert people from prison to employment, and we have to work for the disadvantaged kids from the earliest ages which is why i support quality early childhood education, and universal prekindergarten education, and we have to work to reverse the terrible situations like what you have right now in the detroit public schools. this is something that the mayor cares deeply about. and you have little children in classrooms infested with mold
and rodents. that is unacceptable. it is indefensible, and i am calling on the governor to return control of the detroit public schools to the people of detroit. >> and also, i want to return the debt to the coffers of -- >> tell us. >> and i will be happy to tell you, because it is different from senator sanders. okay. do i have time?
this is great. i want to say that you will never have to borrow money to t attend a public college or university, and the money will be provided if you cannot afford the go to college, and right now, that is going to cover the cost of most people and even the wealthy people. what i am saying is that we will fund debt-free tuition, and you don't have to borrow money, but it is different from senator sanders in this regard, because the costs are too high in college and university. tuition has gone up 42% over the last ten years. years. i don't understand how that can be justified. so, when senator sanders says "free college" with no pressure on the universities and colleges to lower their costs. i think that will only make it more expensive. so i'm requiring the colleges and universities take a hard look at what they are charging. and if it's not relate to do
a young person getting a degree, that will lead to a job, don't charge the student. you will not be able to do that. [ applause ] secondly, i expect states to start reinvesting in higher education. we have enough prisons. they don't need to be building more prisons. they need to be investing in colleges and universities, so they will do their part. and i have the funding worked out so that we're able to do this. senator sanders relies, in order to get what he called free education on republican as well as democratic governors putting in $23 billion a year. frankly, i'm skeptical of that. so i think we can get to where we need to get to, plus reduce student debt. not only you have refinanced your student debt, but also make it possible for you to pay it back as a percentage of your income, which is what i got to do because i borrowed money to go to law school and i wasn't stuck with the high interest rates that too many are today. >> thank you, secretary.
we do want to take some other questions here. but, by the way, the question i asked senator sanders was, you know u the concern about the national debt and how you pay for everything. >> my numbered a up, and my numbers are connected to sources of funding that we can count on and people have looked at my plans and senator sanders. mine cost about $100 billion a year. and that is all paid for, because i think it would be a mistake to run up the national debt, to run up the size of government by 30%, 40%, 50% without knowing how we are going to pay for it. >> let me bring in automotive lab technician frank roth. >> i have a 29-year-old son who purchased health insurance through the healthcare.gov website. his policy cost $240 a month when he filed federal taxes this year he owed the federal government $241 because the tax break he got from the website was
overestimated. what will you do to make health insurance more affordable for someone like him? >> well, first of all, we have to go at the mistakes that you just referenced that your son has experienced. i have heard about those. i'm a big supporter and defender of the affordable care act because i think it has given us the chance to do what i have worked for, what senator sanders believes in to get to universal coverage. we are at 90%' have 10% to go. i'm going to get the costs down. we are getting to get out-of-pocket costs down. we are going to get deductibles down. we are going to require more free services within the benefit package. and we are going to go right after prescription drug costs. all of that should help son and everybody else. here's something else i want to do. we need more competition in the healthcare marketplace. one of the ideas under the affordable care act was to encourage nonprofits to get in to providing health insurance.
you know, blue shield, blue cross used to be nonprofits and they made a perfectly good -- don't call that profit because they were nonprofit but they made enough money to keep going and it to pay their executives and everybody else who worked there then they all became for profit. we need to get more companies more nonprofits to fill this space. the ones that knew what they were doing provided good services. a lot of them have failed because they didn't have the right support. i want more competition and i want competition from nonprofits so that we can really give the insurance companies a lot of pressure to get the costs down. [ applause ] >> okay. secretary clinton, you are not winningtd z in these states with millennials and some also with young women. why is senator sanders doing better? >> well, look, i think it's great that both of us are bringing a lot of people into the process. and i applaud senator
sanders for really getting averg people. i love to see that. and i'm going to continue to attract young people. i'm proud of those who are supporting me. and i tell young people all the time, you may not be for me now, but i am for you regardless and i'm going to keep working to try to help young people. because, after all. [ applause ] this election is about their future. the final thing i would say about in this is i think a lot of people -- we heard an allusion the father talking about his son, you know, a lot of young people are saying what is going on? you know, they get out of great recession and into the job market and there are no jobs. they are burdened with student debt the ones that have gotten student debt. the economy doesn't work for them, the government doesn't work for them. i don't blame them for being really disturbed by what's going on in our country. that's why i'm not overpromising. i'm telling you what i think can i do and how can i
deliver results because i want to rebuild people's confidence in our country and where we are headed in the future. [ applause ] >> secretary clinton, here is our youngest questioner, samuel is 13 years old and is he in middle school. >> samuel? >> is he covering and following. >> samuel. >> thank you. secretary clinton, when you think of senator sanders, do you consider him an enemy or ally. >> oh, an ally for sure. and here's how i think about it, samuel. we have differences. and we are passionate about our positions and our differences. and, you know, like we saw in the debate last night, we air those differences about issues compare that to the republicans and how they behave. [ applause ] you know, i am very proud of the campaign that senator sanders and i are running. and i have said publicly i will repeat that tonight, i hope to win the nomination. if i am so fortunate, i hope
to work with him because the issues he has raised, the passion he has demonstrated, the people he has attracted are going to be very important in the general election but equally following the election to try to get things done. so, i certainly consider him an ally. >> would you tap him to be your v.p. choice? >> let's not get ahead of our. [ laughter ] my gosh, you know, i don't want to think any further ahead than tomorrow and the michigan primary. i can't do that. [ applause ] i want to tell samuel an experience that kind of its what i'm talking about. then senator obama and i ran a really tough campaign against each other to the very end. he won. i lost. so when i dropped out, i0tiu(r"d i began to do that. i nominated him at the convention in denver. i worked really hard to get him elected. and it wasn't easy to convince a lot of my
supporters to immediately move to supporting then senator obama. but i made the case. i made the case in public. i made the case in private. and the vast majority did what i thought was the right thing to support him to be president. so, when you get through a primary, despite the emotions that are are engendered in your supporters, you have to take stock of where you are and who
>> thank you so much. thank you, all. >> that wraps up our special edition of "special report." we will have all the coverage tomorrow from the michigan primary in new york good night from detroit. ♪ what all this means with super tuesday 2 just days away. >> it just makes all of our friends and supporters more angry. we're going to go to the polls on tuesday and we're going to be resounding