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5:00 p.m. eastern. tune in and there you go. there you go. >> and an american couple confirmed dead and more arrests in the brussels terror attacks. what are we doing do keep the homeland safe? todausteenomee today, the lawmaker in the house intelligence committee reacts. >> i am worried this was an attack on americans. >> congressman definite on why he things americans were the target original on fox news sunday. >> and is the criticism president obama faced for doing the wave and dancing the tango, was it fair? >> i have a lot of things on my plate but my top priority is to defeat isil.
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>> we will ask abut the optics problem. and our exclusive with senator ted cruz on his controversial call to police muslim neighborhoods. >> we need to go after where the threat comes from and the threat comes from radicalization. >> plus, the war of the wives, the feud between ted cruz and donald trump takes a nasty turn. athis "national enquirer" story is garbage. and it is a smear that has come from donald trump and his henchmen. >> all right new on fox news sunday. >> hello, from fox news inned with, we have the latest on the investigation into to deadly belgium attacks. the police have charged another suspect who is being investigated as the possible third airport attacker, the one in the hat on the right side of the screen. we will have exclusive reaction from intelligence chair in house of representatives, devin nunes and ted cruz but first, to the senior foreign affairs
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correspondent in brussels. greg? >> yes, an emotional easter sunday here in brussels as the crowd is gathering in front of the makeshift memorial to the victims of the attacks this week. the crowd is growing in side and in noise amid news of a break in the investigation into the attacks. you are right, police now think they could have the other airport bomber, the man seen in the surveillance video, in a hat and a jacket with two other bombers. he fled the scene and the bomb did not go off. it is believed the man is faycal cheffou said to be an independent journalist, but, really, what he is doing is pushing radical islamist causes and he is charged with terrorist murder. and sadly it has been confirm god more americans were killed in the attacks this week, 30-year-old justin shults and
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his wife, 29, stehpanie, from tennessee and kentucky and they both worked for companies here for the past couple of years and they loved exploring europe and they were at the airport dropping off their mother after a visit she was safely through security weapon the bombing happened and she is avenue. along with two unidentified americans who we helped on friday were also killed bringing to at least four the americans dead in the attacks. by the way federal now say that the death toll they have been putting out at 31 includes the bombers so the number of victims is 28. the injured toll? it is higher today, 340. including 12 americans. many of them are suffer severe burns and many of them had their eardrums blown out by the blast especially in the metro it was literally deafening. finally, there is going to be a march today in brussels in response to the attacks. organizers had to call it off on
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the request of officials. police say they have their hands full on attacks and dealing with security and, again, what we have been watching here behind us is a bunch of right-wick individuals, far right, who are saying things against immigrants in this city, in this country, and saying that has to do with the terrorism we have been seeing and they have been clashing verbally with the mourners who have been peacefully marking the attacks. an emotional and sad sunday, easter sunday, here in brussels. russian an? >> thank you, greg palkot. senator ted cruz called for law enforcement to conduct surveillance in muslim communities and we spoke with senator ted cruz and i asked what that proposal looks like. >> proactive law enforcement. it is addressing the problem and engaging the problem using every
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tool, law enforcement, national security, intelligence, the military, to defeat the enemy. >> we will hear more from increase ted cruz in a moment, but, first, reaction from house intelligence chairman devin nunes. i want to start by asking about reports sighting that isis has trained 400 fighters and deployed them across europe to carry out more attacks. what is your understanding of the imminent threat to europe right now? >> yes, what i add vase people, the numbers we are hearing are only the numbers that the intelligence community actually knows about. what is more concerning is the spectrum of threats continuing to grow because we know the people we know about but we don't know the people that have again to syria and iraq and come become. that is probably in the thousands.
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they are train locals and going to the refugee populations, training people and bringing people into the polled and going to the mosques and you look at people judgment, france, germany, turkey, other parts, those are areas with high populations that have to be concerned about more attacks in the future. >> with that in mind i will play president's weekly address where he talk about take on isis and thought this is part of the puzzle. >> we look forward in this fight we have to have another weapon along airstrikes, our military and counterterrorism and diplomacy: that is the power of our example. our openness to refugees fleeing isil's violence. >> we know several of the suspects linked to a number of the attacks cross europe were posing as syrian refugees. are you confident the united states screening and vetting process is full proof enough we can move forward with what the
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president is suggesting? >> no. that is why the house of representatives last year asked for a pause in the refugee program. i do believe we need to accept refugees from around the globe especially from places that are war torn, that have dictatorships. we need to be the beacon of light an the globe. at at this point the congress has said we need a pause on the program when you look at refugees coming from potential isis or al qaeda-infested areas including iraq and sear can. however, the senate will not vote on it. the senate democrats have kill the opportunity to vote on a pause on the refugee program. the longer this program goes unchecked, the longer we do not take care of isis and al-qaeda, the more this threat will grow day-by-day. >> we have soon in the united
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states isis advisors, some who have carried out attacks and some charges with supporting the organization or hoping to get involved with the organization or support it but with that in mine, do you think there are operable cells or loneful would whose have been trained or inspired by isis here in the united states today? >> yes, it is really purpose to refer to this, to isis and al-qaeda, because a lot of people forget that al qaeda actually carried out a similar attack in europe just last year in paris. isis and al qaeda are a strange course --s stranged cousins and competing with the same goal to attack our allies in the west and ourselves. when you look forward, going forward, it is not just about the people who went to iraq and syria and come back or the people that we do not know about it is the capability that isis and al qaeda are using over internet and increpted chat
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rooms we cannot get to that are radicalizing people here in the united states, what we call self radicalization. >> after attacks in brussels this week, you said "from my vantage point it looks like an attack on americans and targeted to americans to some degree." we know there are four americans among the dead from a number of different cups, is that still your opinion that americans were the target? >> i think we start out with the fact that we know americans and our allies are always a target. what i was talking about or referring to as the facts come together, as the belgium police and investigators put this together, if it does, in fact, end up the american airlines were targeted and, perhaps, the metro station close to the united states embassy is targeted. if that is the fact, yes, you have to say that americans were at least part of the target and
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just like when they attacked the attack in paris targeted toward an american rock band. so, furthermore on this point, what i think people forget, also, is when you have people who were born in europe who hold western passports, that travel over to iraq and syria and are trained by isis or al qaeda types, or get radicalized in europe by isis or al qaeda types, they hold western passports so they can then transit into the united states and that is what we remain concerned about why the f.b.i. director has said there are investigations beginning on in 50 states. >> presbyterian this week took some criticism for continuing with trips that were long planned attending a baseball game with raul castro and tangoing in argentina but stopped with a philosophy of his, and not just him but lawmakers on both sides that have suggested if you stop your
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routine and if you part with your life and your schedules, that, essentially, terrorists end up winning. here is what he said in argentina. >> it is very important for us to not spend with fear. we defeat them in part by say saying, you are not strong. you are weak. >> true? >> what needs to happen here, the obama administration spitted their strategy to the united states congress. it was a seven-page strategy on defeating what they call extremism. you have to define the problem. it is fair when people say, what is your strategy, look, the president of the united states should not be hanging out in cuba with a known financier of terrorism. what the president of the united states should be doing is calling together all of our allies in a coalition of thing including those in the middle
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east, that want to sit down together as leaders at a neutral location put all of the intelligence on the table, and find out where all of the pockets of isis and al-qaeda are. we have colonies knew have spread from western africa all the way to southeast asia and now it looks like they have a command-and-control structure in parts of europe. what the president should be doing is sit down with the hers, identifying the problem, and then coming up with a plan and asking all of countries to participate more than they ever have in what really is going to be a long war, a generation alward against radicals islamic extremism. >> we are about out of time but son of the operations, the alleged training catches are supposed to be centered in syria and we know there is easy travel back and forth for suspects. does the united states bear any responsibility for the continuing ongoing chaotic situation over the last five
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years in syria? >> look, there is never really a plan. when you look at what needs to be done in iraq and syria it is a containment strategy, not a strategy to defeat isis. isis has spreads over to north africa so a last fighters and weapons and money, it, have been coming from north africa into syria and iraq so it is a containment strategy that is not working. we know it is not working because the threat that was identified by the intelligence community several years ago was that the worst thing that could happen is allowing people to go from the west into iraq and syria and back out. there is just a failed strategy here that is getting worse. you have the second of state on friday saying we are winning again syria, again isis and syria and iraq and this seems to me to be just delusional and the
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president of the united states is dancing in argentina when he should meet with the leaders of europe and other allies to try to take the fight totten my. >> chairman devin nunes thank you for joining us today. >> now our sunday group, george will, kirsten powers, and jason riley and fox news political analyst juan williams. george, your reaction to the latest from brussels and how this administration is strategizing with isis? >> the administration is trapped on its own good news and it was good news that the administration killed a high-level operative. in a way that indicated astonish ing good intelligence capability with our forces. the attacks have raised the question on isil, how important
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is the existence of a caliphate, the territory they hold, important to them? (a) because it helps in recruit and (b) it helps operations like this. to the state accident that we ce this is crucial, and it frames the mission to take back the territory and the youngs because they are the targets ought to bear a considerable military responsibility. >> jason? >> beyond is right, we have been making progress militarily. high ranking, isis officials are being taken out. territories that were gain by the terrorists in iraq and syria are retaken but at the same time isis is able to carry out attacks on major european cities, at will it seems. they of win the p.r. campaign and as far as recruitment perception matters.
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the chairman get did the point the administration continues to is a policy of containing isis not eliminating isis. it is not that we do not have capability, we long the political will to do it. >> the president is taking heat over perception but about his trips and what he was doing. but he has stood by this as others in the republican camp that you move on with your life. >> i think, also, you her the congress machine say he was hanging out in cuba, and state visit as something like a boondoggle. there was a plan visit to go there --. >> a it was controversial. >> you but it is his prerogative and not something you cancel and the president does believe that you go on with your life. as far as dancing, as you said on friday, he tried to not dance with her repeatedly. it is not as though he is like i am going to cuba and tango but
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the brussel should be allowed to golf if it is how he blows off steam, good for him. >> juan? >> on the optics, they are politics and they do not look good and if you put it together, it is largely coming from republicans who want to portray him as weak in fighting the war on terror and the counter point is that terrorists do want to get us into an overreaction and the overreaction is to draw us into another long-term effort in the middle east and that would be difficult. we are fighting a guerilla war and it is hard to stop the isolated cells. >> they have appocalyptic myths and they -- mission and they want to draws us in. all the attacks are personal between ted cruz and donald
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trump. >> first a fight over their wives and now ted cruz is blaming donald trump's henchmen for a tabloid story in the "national enquirer" now. >> it is lies. a tabloid smear. >> he said he had nothing to do with it and ted cruz joins us exclusively. next. don't let dust and allergies get between you and life's beautiful moments. with flonase allergy relief, they wont. most allergy pills only control one inflammatory substance. flonase controls six. and six is greater than one. flonase changes everything.
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>> the republican race for the white house reaching new lows as accusations were flying between ted cruz and donald trump. i spoke with senator ted cruz of the bitter battle but we start with a terror threat in the wake of brussels. >> senator, in the wake of the brussels bombings you issue add
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statement saying this in part, we need to immediately halt the flow of refugees from countries with a significant al-qaeda or isis presence and we need to empower law enforcement to patrol and secure muslim neighborhoods before they are radicalized. what are you proposing? >> good morning, it is good to be with you and happy easter. this past week all of us mourned this terrible terrorist attack if brussels. we have seen the attacks occurring over and over again. this attack was not a lone wolf it wasn't isolated. it was part of a global jihad being waned by radical islamic terrorism being waned on europe and israel and on united states of america. for seven years, president obama and hillary clinton and this administration have been so bound up by political correctness they have refused to agency what we are fighting. they have refused to name it
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after every attack the president does a tv conference and refuses to say the words radical and lectures americans on islamic phone why. enough is enough. we need a commander in chief who keeps the country safe. a consequence of the political correctness is embracing policy ies that make in sense, president obama and hillary clinton support bringing tens of thousands of syrian muslim refugees to america despite the fact that isis says they will infiltrate the refugees with jihadists and despite the fbi say they cannot vet the refugees to make sure they are not terrorists. we need a commander in chief focused on defeating terrorism on destroying isis and keeping america safe. >> how would that play out with patrols in muslim neighborhoods, what is the practicality of that? >> what that looks like is
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brother active law enforcement, addressing the problem and engaging in the problem and using every tool, national security, intelligence, the military abroad, and getting the enemy. this was a successful program in new york city started under mayor bloomberg that did this. it engaged quarterbackively with the muslim community but got involved to prevent radicalization and islamic cells from forming and prevent acts of terror before being carried out. liberal democratic neighbor when he was elected, the first thing he did in a nod to political correctness he disbended the unit. that does not make sense. we nea to go after the threat. it comes from radicalization. you look at europe. much of the cause of the attacks is the failed immigration policies in europe over the decades allowing vast numbers of
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islamic terrorists to come to europe living in isolated locations where law enforcement does naughton gage and they are hotbeds for radicalization that lead to these attacks. we cannot become europe and physical the same mistakes. we need our law enforcement to engage and fight this enemy which is islam ism, a philosophy that commands adherents to engage in jihad and murder or convert infidels which they mean all of us, and to force us to live under sharia lawsuit. we have to fight it at every level. the administration is not doing that. that is why we are seeing the rise of radical islamic terrorism. >> senator, the president superpowers to your idea by invideoing your father, here is what he said. >> i left a country that engages if that neighborhood
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surveillance. which by the way the father of senator ted cruz escaped. for america. the land of the free. >> also this week, former secretary of state hillary clinton rest -- referenced your comments on carpet bombing. >> roping that makes you sunday not tough but like you are in over your head. >>erly through month there was a poll asking who is best equipped to handle the issues of phone policy, former hillary clinton was atop copy were in fourth behind donald trump and bernie sanders and as a first term senator as the secretary suggested are you in over your head on foreign policy? >> i will to tell you who is in over their head it is president obama and john kerry and hillary clinton and the entire obama administration, the foreign policy is a manifest disaster. every single region on earth has gotten worse. our friends and allies we have
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abandoned, the mostant israel administration we have ever seen. we have shown weakness and appeasement to our enemies. it is rich to see president obama attack me after going to a baseball game w castros celebrating and toasting a communist dictator who tortures and murders his citizens who oppresses them and who is rabidly antiamerican. and who spreads terrorism throughout latin america, yes, my father was in imprisoned and tortured in cuba and so was my aunt in cuba but what president obama has done and general jerk has done and hillary clinton has done is sent billions of dollars to the enemies of america, billions to the castros they use to increase their repression and increase spreading terrorism throughout lat latin america and over $100 million to ayatollah that will fund islamic
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terrorists coming to murder americans and europeans and israels and will fund their income program and their icbm program designed to murder millions of americans. this policy of weakness does not work. the american people are tired of it. they are tired of the lecturing. obama and hillary clinton are more mad at me than isis and the terrorists who are murdering us. two americans were murdered in brussels. this could be more. our priors are with them. we need a president who the bring the full first and fewerrist united states of america to defeat isis f i am president we will completely destroy isis. we will carpet bomb them. and oh believe beyond using overwhelming air power and arm the kurds and we will not put our forces in combat with the riles of engagement that obama is fond of that tie their hands behind their back that make it
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impossible to fight and win. that is wrong. to we use force we will use it to win and then we will get the hurricane out and not engage in nation building but keep america safe. >> senator, it was like combat on the campaign trail this week taking a very nasty personal turn. i want to start with a facebook and instagram ad from antidonald trump super pac a nearly nude photo of melania trump and donald trump said you are lie lie about not knowing anything about it. did anyone in your campaign or anyone connected to you coordinate in anyway or have communications with that group? did you know anything about the ad? anot remotely. it was a great, i don't know the person involved. i have never met them or spoken to them they are disconnected from our campaign. the ad was deplorable and when i saw it i denounced it and said
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it was wrong but there are a lot of people in america what disagree with donald trump and he used that as an excuse the fact that someone else who i don't know and have no v with, used a deplorable ad he used that as an execution to go after my wife, heidi cruz and threaten her, and sent a nasty tweet pitting a bad picture of my wife with a good picture of his wife and i guess bragging his wife is so attractive. listen, i have never once said any negative word about his wife or a member of the family. show a lovely woman and everything i have seen she seems to be a terrific mother, and attacking spouses and children is off limits and it has no place in politics. sadly, what donald trump has done, when he is scared, particularly on foreign policy, he is out of his depth and does not know or understand the
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issues. a reason he was scared this week is this past week, donald called publicly for effectively withdrawing america from nato. now, that is a catastrophically foolish proposition. abandoning europe and withdrawing from the most successful military alliance of modern time makes no sense. if he were president it would hand a victory to vladimir putin and isis, who would dance in the streets. when he calls for withdrawing from nato, the next day the brussels attack occurred and brussels is where understood is headquartered. so, the lack of understanding on foreign policy and lack of ability and readiness to protect the country was evident and he did what he does, he tried to find a way to change the subject and he has not campaigned for a week hiding in trump tower but he sends tweaks attacking my wife, and it is inappropriate
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and disgusting to see the candidate attacking the spouse of another and a sign of how scared he is. he does not want to discuss the substance and why he refuses to debate because when he debates the lack of understanding of the challenges facing america are evident for everyone to see. >> move on to the "national enquirer". they allege and i quote, "private investigators are digging into at least five affairs ted cruz supposedly had." we are lawyers and i have read the article in full and they use the word supposedly, may have, why see concrete allegations. would you like did respond? >> yes, this story is garbage. it is tabloid smear. it came from donald trump and the henchmen. the only person quoted is roger stone, the chief political advisor to donald trump and this is --. >> they had a parting of ways. we do not know exactly what the relationship is but, he has been
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linked with donald trump. >> they have not had a parting of ways. roger stone is the hatchet man, the enforcer forum trump pushing the attacks and pushing them for many months on-line. these are complete made up lies, garbage, and it is indicative of how low donald trump will go. >> i want to include what his respond was on whether he is helped to this in facebook posting open friday he said i have no idea whether the corn story of ted cruz in the "national enquirer" is true but i had nothing to do with it, did not know about it and have not read it. >> look, that is very convenient to say but the arm quotes roger zone who organized and planned donald trump's presidential campaign and david pecker the c.e.o. of "national enquirer" is a close friend of donald trump and the "national enquirer" has endorsed donald trump for president and this campaign they
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have always praised donald trump, and, two, they spread lies and smears and attacks on the opponent. this is garbage. we have real problems in america and there are right now people stagnating and out of the work and want jobs and donald trump does not want to talk about the issues and he has no answers for how to bring jobs back to america, he has no idea how to do that and he has no answer on how to keep america safe so he attack my wife and my family and goes to garbage and sleaze and lies. it is false. it has in business in politics. this is why people disgusted in politics. we need a leader. a leader prepared to address the real challenges. i pent several days. can paining in wisconsin. the people this are interested in how to bring become jobs? how do we see wages rising?
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i talked about my positive economic program to pass a simple flat tax and abolish the i.r.s. and my back the e.p.a. and the federal regulations that are killing small businesses and stop amnesty and illegal immigration and insanctuary cities and end we will first benefits for those here illegally. we do that we see millions and millions of high paying new jobs, manufacturing jobs, coming back from china and mexico and wages going up. we will see young people coming out of school with two or floor even five job opportunities. that is what machines are interested in. a leader with a positive agenda. >> senator, we have to leave it there. thank you for joining us. we will see you on the campaign trail. >> happy easter. >> next, we will bring back our sunday group to discuss the
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battle and what would i like to ask the panel about bringing political spouses into the campaign feud. will it alienate women in november? i think we should've taken a tarzan know where tarzan go!
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tarzan does not know where tarzan go. hey, excuse me, do you know where the waterfall is? waterfall? no, me tarzan, king of jungle. why don't you want to just ask somebody? if you're a couple, you fight over directions. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. oh ohhhhh it's what you do. ohhhhhh! do you have to do that right in my ear?
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people, first, it was recorded it was shopped around to a last reporter by someone and i happen to know that under the people shopping the story around very aggressively is someone who is come meetly antrum and antited cruz but it is antidonald trump and antited cruz so not a person in anyway way supportive of donald trump and has been repeated. we do not know who was responsible to get it to the "national enquirer" but story has been there for months. among reporters. >> there is nothing...everything uses "supposed," and two women have said, shutly not. so, we watch for more on that. now, a last folks are feeling the burn because last night he woman three states, alaska, hawaii, and washington state, resoundingly, not even close. >> actually, this is the beginning of the end for bernie
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sanders, this --. ought three weapons are the beginning of the end. >> he did not actually make any great strides. ahe publics up delegates. >> not substantial in the way you would say, now he is a threat to win the nomination. he is hoping for a debate in new york state and saying he will ratchet up the credit seek of hillary clinton where she is favored in new york state. you can see the democratic senators calling for him to get out and rebound in a closed session said it is time to bring the party together, and the democrats understand the need to play nice with bernie sanders and it is a third of voters in the "wall street journal" poll or a third of bernie sanders supporters in "wall street journal" said they would not support hillary clinton they want bernie sanders the strong left wing voice. obviously he gets a speaking slot at the wrong, does he become vice president? no, i don't think so. boy, republican ad maker would
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be in heaven with ads against socialist bernie sanders. >> self described. >> what you get is a situation where they good doing have to, the democratic party, will have to buy into bernie sanders to get him to buy into hillary clinton to bring voters that hillary clinton will need. she is not setting the campaign trail on fire. he is doing it for the democrats and they need the energy going into november. >> jason, he made this plea and cheers with thousands saying he sees a path forward and he has momentum and he got not talking hundreds and hundreds...but we have the she of the super delegates. he is not going away. >> show has a significant lead among the delegates is the bottom line. her lead among the delegates is much larger than obama's please with her back in 2008. it is significant. bernie sanders spending a significant a the time trying to justify continuing in the race and hillary clinton wants to by
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have the to a general election campaign. can you see her trying to move on ratherly even mentioning him in the speeches so there is continuation there. why see a path forward for bernie sanders other than making demands at the convention. >> obviously we have a battle on the going side, and it is possible no one gets to the convention with the 1,237 but money could. looking the three remaining you get john kasich at the top, and head to head with hillary clinton he is ahead of her, and ted cruz is up by three points and hillary clinton bests trip by one point and same with bernie sanders, kasich is the only g.o.p. contender that comes out ahead and that is ted cruz and trip trump losing to bernie sanders what does it say about the race? >> we know that john kasich cannot get to the convention with a majority of the delegates. ted cruz has to win 87% which
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will not happen. donald trump has to win 50-something% is we are looking at a convention in which ted cruz will be depend. on the washington cartel trying to rescue themselves and the party from donald trump. so the question is, who is preparing best for the convention right now? at this point it would be ted cruz. football coach paul bear bryant said, what matters is not the toll win but the will to prepare to win. it is who is preparing for the contested convention now that matters most and it clearly seems to be the cruz crew campaign. >> does john kasich have a third or fourth ballot argument when he went head to head against the nominees on the text side? athat will be his argument but others will make it, senator ryan and others will name people not in the race, governor walker
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of wisconsin suggested in a contested convention you could go to someone who did not enter the list at all and that is particularly the case with john kasich because he has run hard and run unsuccessful but ohio. >> we have in wisconsin, it is tough but kasich has a significant portion of what we see in the polling. how tough is that for ted cruz? >> kasich...he is --. >> wisconsin, pennsylvania, where he is polling... >> that is where he does well, the mid-weapon states but the rust belt is where he has done well. he does not have the time or the amount of delegates left in the remaining contest to get there. even with contested convention it is hard to see the justification for going with someone other than trump who is running who goes to the convention with fewer
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delegations. why turn to a ted cruz or kasich or anyone who has less support than donald trump? >> let me answer were i would say that if it was a republican party there is great need to preserve their majority in the senate, a concern about preserving even a narrow lead of the majority in the house of representatives and donald trump would be catastrophic for that. kasich, by the way, doing better in pepco-exelon, but nowhere near what he needs and finally, they are getting ready for the convention but donald trump is trying to undermine it, and they are trying to pick sure they know the rule of the road moving to a likely convention, open convention. >> but there are other things, that the voters choose the candidate. >> but this is more fun. >> panel, we will take a break, but when we come back the stand off with president obama's
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supreme court nominee and senate republicans calling for a hearing. we will look at that. ♪
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president has fully discharged his constitutional obligation. the president has fully discharged his constitutional obligation. now it's up to the senate to do the same. as i might add, the polling data shows the american people expect him to do. >> vice president biden calling
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on the republican-led senate to consider judge merrick garland's supreme court nomination and give him an up or down vote. we're now back with the panel. so i want to play a little bit of what joe biden said about a similar situation, about the circumstances in 1992 on the senate floor. just listen, and decide for yourself. >> president bush should consider following the practice of a majority of his predecessors and not, and not name a nominee until after the november election is completed. >> george, this week he spoke about this. he said there is no such thing as a biden rule. but the reference back to those remarks is tough for him and the administration. >> there wasn't a biden rule until republican leaders decide to take his pronouncement somehow, and to suddenly worship biden's theories on this stuff. consider the case this week of
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jerry moran. very conservative senator from the conservative state of kansas. he said, we ought perhaps to have hearings. i won't vote for him. we've got 50 some senators, we can vote him down. but have the hearings. discuss the place of the supreme court in the american regime, its role supervising democracy and all the rest, and then vote on it. and he's now being denounced as a rhino. >> let me talk you through a little bit of that so people know exactly what he said. he said earlier this week, i'd rather have you complaining to me, apparently talking to constituents, than i voted wrong on nominating someone than saying i'm not doing my job. the response from the tea party patriots was, it's this kind of outrageous behavior that leads tea party patriots citizens fund activists and supporters to think seriously about encouraging a primary opponent to run against senator moran in the august gop primary. he then put out a subsequent statement saying this. i am opposed to president obama's supreme court nominee and this administration's attempt to put another liberal judge on the supreme court.
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as i have said since the vacancy was created, i believe i have a duty to ask tough questions and demand answers. he's not the only republican cracking the door open to at least a meeting. >> right. and look, john roberts has said -- you know, supreme court chief justice has said that he's concerned about the process of how we are now selecting our supreme court nominees. >> but i do believe he said that before this. >> right, before this. not talking about this. but he was talking about the fact that on both sides, it's become very much a party line vote, where it didn't used to be that. he said it suggests that we're not looking at their qualifications. it's just the idea that you would let this person come up, you would assess their qualifications, and then decide whether to vote for them or not is now considered out of bounds. >> but i think what conservatives are upset about is that there shouldn't be a different set of rules for republicans and a different set of rules for democrats. and that's what's going on here. for dozens of republican judicial nominees have been
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denied hearings by democrats during election years. we have bidens comments before chuck schumer of the senate, the senator from new york has said something similarly more recently. president obama himself wanted to filibuster justice alito's nomination. so i don't think a problem holding hearings either. hold them. and vote no if you don't want him as the next supreme court justice. but at the same time, let's make sure the rules apply equally to both sides. >> but i don't understand. if you look back to kennedy under the reagan years, it was a democratic majority. they approved him. i think alito, i think justice roberts. i could go on. these democratic majority -- >> those weren't election year -- >> no, but i'm saying a democratic majority gave a republican president his nominee. and i think that going into this situation, you have people saying somehow that the presidency has already ended prematurely. i don't know where that is in the constitution. that seems to me to be in direct
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contradiction of people who say we want to play by the rules, by the constitution. this president is obligated to nominate somebody. and you can reject. but it seems to me, the senate is obligated to consider. refusing to have a courtesy meeting, i think it's rude. >> joe biden considered every nominee that came before him. >> he did. >> it's being mischaracterized. he actually went on to say, if the president sends someone up, we will consider this person. but this idea that there's this biden rule -- >> but he said the president shouldn't even nominate someone. he's taking it back a step. >> and then he said, but if he does, he would consider it. so that's very different than saying we will not consider anybody that comes up. he was saying he doesn't think that's what you should do. fine. but if you do, we'll consider it. >> i think the far more interesting question is whether republicans are making a mistake here if hillary wins the election and nominates someone much further to the left than judge garland. >> i think that's very much a possibility. >> public opinion is clearly
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against them on this. incumbent senators, in new hampshire, new hampshire, portland in wisconsin. all in for tough races, it looks like. could this be the margin of the difference, if one or more of them loses? the answer is yes. >> this week, the little sisters of the poor case was argued over the hhs contraceptive mandate as relates to non-profit religious groups. it will likely end in a 4-4 split is our best guess at this point. this is one of those cases that illustrates how critical that fifth vote or this next seat is going to be in deciding someone on the bench. it seems like both parties are taking a bit of a gamble with this. >> i think that's right. that's a very interesting case. because the little sisters say they object even to this conscience clause that allows people who object to that kind of contraception to be part of a health care system. but it ultimately comes down to people arguing that an employer can't dictate an employee's sex life.
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i don't know how it gets settled, but it seems to me it's not -- you know, it's a fight against obamacare, and i think this court with roberts has affirmed that. >> i have said the nuns want nothing to do with dismantling the overall law. they don't want to sign what they see as a permission slip for their health care plan to be used for things that object to the very tenets of their faith. thank you very much, panel. we'll see you next sunday. up next, a final note on this easter weekend. [ music ] defiance is in our bones. citracal pearls. delicious berries and cream. soft, chewable, calcium plus vitamin d. only from citracal.
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a look at belgium's favorite chocolates they prepared for easter after a somber mood after tuesday's attacks. a look now at some of belgium's famous chocolate as they prepped for easter, despite a somber mood in brussels after the attacks. happy easter to those of you celebrating. we'll leave you with a look at
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the beautiful cherry blossom trees in full bloom here in washington. and we'll see you next fox news sunday. this is a fox news alert. a taliban faction claiming responsibility for a deadly suicide bombing in pakistan. and they say that christians celebrating easter were the targets. the bomb went off in a busy park in the city of lahore. busy with families celebrating the holiday. at least 63 people were killed. hundreds more injured. most of the victims are women and children. and we're told that the bomb detonated not far from several children's rides. the national security council issued a statement condemning the "cowardly attack" and saying that the united states stands with the people of

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