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donald trump is telling the world he's not going anywhere so the kelly ayottes and others who say he should, forget about it. we're back here. fox continues. good afternoon. welcome to a special saturday edition of "america's newsroom." there are two big storms unraveling this hour. one by mother nature, another on the campaign trail. screen left, hurricane matthew making landfall near myrtle beach, south carolina only moments ago after leaving more than a million without power in florida. also, there is a firestorm surrounding the race for the white house. minutes ago, donald trump telling the "wall street journal" there is zero chance he will quit his campaign for president. this after apologizing last night at midnight on video for vulgar comments caught on camera more than a decade ago. we are seeing also the first
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leaks of hillary clinton's speeches on wall street. there is plenty to cover today as we say hello to you wherefor you are. i'm bill hemmer in new york city. how you doing, martha? >> doing great, bill. good morning to you. good morning. i'm martha maccallum live at washington university in st. louis, the site of the second presidential debate which will take place tomorrow night, and it now as a backdrop for a firestorm of controversy that is brewing around this election process with some 30 days to go. this is the site. it has been the scene four times before starting in 1992. the original town hall debate happened that year as well between bill clinton and george bush. it was an interesting format. they liked it, they stuck with it and that's what we will see here tomorrow night. but we have seen an enormous amount of controversy that has brewed in the last 24 hours. donald trump said it himself in a tweet a little while ago. well, it's been an interesting
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24 hours. to that effect, what kind of reaction will he bring forward? will we hear from him in a serious way before he takes that stage tomorrow night? all of that becomes some of the big questions we are going to deal with and grapple with this morning on an absolutely beautiful day, on a beautiful campus in the middle of this toss-up state of missouri. both candidates head into this debate with a lot of new baggage. hillary clinton reeling after the wikileaks published transcripts of her paid wall street speeches and the trump campaign as we have said now reeling as well after a decade-old audiotape resurfaces. mr. trump has some work to do. all of it dealing in this particular case with his treatment of women. listen. >> i'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- i just -- kissing them like a magnet. when you're a star they let you do it. you can do anything. >> whatever you want. >> grab them by the [ bleep ]. you can do anything. >> so the fallout has been swift. it has been harsh from some.
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in fact, we continue to hear from numerous republicans already today, pulling endorsements, others calling for trump to drop out. mr. trump releasing a video as i mentioned around midnight last night with this message of apology. >> i have never said i'm a perfect person, nor pretended to be someone that i'm not. i have said and done things i regret and the words released today on this more than a decade old video are one of them. anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who i am. i said it, i was wrong, and i apologize. >> in total, that apology runs about a minute and 30 seconds. you will hear all of it eventually during our program today. first want to go to senior national correspondent john roberts live in st. louis. a lot to catch up on. what are you hearing from the trump team? let's start there. >> reporter: good afternoon to you. donald trump is making the rounds now doing a lot of interviews and he is beginning to fight back now. you mentioned the "wall street
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journal." he also told "the washington post" a short time ago he will never withdraw. the correspondent robert costa who interviewed donald trump saying in a couple of tweets they are not going to make me quit, they can't make me quit, also saying i have never quit in my life, i give you my word that i am never leaving. martha mentioned this a second ago. let's put it on the screen, the tweet from donald trump. this is the first time he's taken to twitter since releasing that apology last night, saying certainly has been an interesting 24 hours, exclamation point. how did we get to this point? it was in 2005 he was doing a piece for "access hollywood" traveling in a bus with the host billy bush. the two of them were miked up. we have seen this happen before. donald trump perhaps not thinking that he was being recorded when he said among other things this. >> i moved on her and i failed. i'll admit it. >> whoa! >> i did try and [ bleep ]. she was married. i moved on her very heavily. in fact, i took her out furniture shopping. i moved on her like [ bleep ]. i couldn't get there.
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and she was married. and all of a sudden, i see her, she's now got the big phony [ bleep ] and she's totally changed her look. >> the consequences of this are instantaneous and far-reaching. one of the biggest casualties this afternoon, donald trump was supposed to make a highly publicized appearance onstage in elkhorn, wisconsin with the speaker of the house, paul ryan. this was a personal favor that the rnc chairman reince priebus called in with the speaker to say we have known each other for 20 years, i need to have the picture of you and donald trump and several other candidates on the stage at the same time. this whole thing blew up yesterday with the speaker disinviting donald trump. mike pence will now take his place. the speaker of the house saying quote, ai am shocked by what i heard today. women are to be championed and revered, not objectified. a number of republicans are abandoning trump. jason chaffetz from utah tweeted out quote, i can no longer endorse donald trump for the presidency. he has since been followed by
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senator mike crapo of idaho, kelly ayotte and others. jon huntsman, former governor of utah, also presidential candidate, calling for trump to drop out of the race. some of the more usual suspects also joining that chorus. senator kirk, and carly fiorina who said trump should drop out and leave the door open for mike pence to become the nominee. trump and his campaign tried to stem the bleeding and it is profuse. it is an arterial wound, there's no question about that. more from last night's apology here now. >> i have gotten to know the great people of our country and i have been humbled by the faith they have placed in me. i pledge to be a better man tomorrow and will never, ever let you down. >> reporter: one of the big questions is speaker ryan completely done with donald trump or could he maintain his support, maybe even appear with him later in the campaign before the election. he may talk about that this afternoon when he appears in elkhorn at the fallfest in
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wisconsin. another thing the trump campaign is trying to do to fight back against this is of course point out the contents of the leaked e-mails regarding hillary clinton's speeches. pointing out there were ten things hillary clinton did not want the world to know about. you can expect them to hammer that hard. >> looking at that right now. when is the next public appearance for trump now? given that this wisconsin event has been scaled back? >> reporter: i think you are going to see him in a lot or at least a few interviews today. you will hear him in interviews with newspapers. there's the chance he may do some television interviews as well. he wouldn't be doing any campaign events before tomorrow night's debate. one of the big questions, of course, is will this be a question that will be asked at the debate. i would expect that you would be remiss in your duties as a moderator if you didn't bring this up. >> thank you. they are taking -- stand by in st. louis. going back to martha here. they are taking questions from actual voters tomorrow night in st. louis.
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that's the town hall format. that's been established for this. >> yeah. we will talk more about that and the dynamic of that, and the impact that might have on particularly this question, when women stand up and address donald trump and ask him about these comments, that could be some of the moments that we are going to see tomorrow night. throughout this campaign you have had many pundits who predicted the end of donald trump over and over, every time he made a misstep. so far, it has not stopped him as is very clear as we get this close to the election. he responded to this latest criticism from this leak saying that he believes the clintons have done far worse. watch. >> i have said some foolish things, but there's a big difference between the words and actions of other people. bill clinton has actually abused women and hillary has bullied, attacked, shamed and intimidated his victims. we will discuss this more in the coming days. see you at the debate on sunday.
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>> wow. that was about midnight last night. steve hayes joins us now, senior writer for the weekly standard, and fox news contributor. welcome. what do you make of it? >> he's right. it's been an interesting 24 hours. >> yeah. >> this feels different than the other predictions of donald trump's demise, in particular because as john said, this is an arterial wound. you are seeing senior republicans, some of them stepping out publicly, withdrawing their endorsements from trump. virtually everybody condemning. it's hard to find people who will defend donald trump or try to put his arguments in context because it can't be done. beyond that, behind the scenes, what's taking place, what took place last night and is taking place right now all over the country is members of congress, republicans, strategists, elected officials, calling one another trying to figure out what the next step is. i think you are likely to see a number of additional republicans withdraw their support, potentially some very prominent republicans pull their support
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from donald trump and urge the party as a party to take a different path. >> there's a couple ways to look at this. obviously the party's concerned about the down ballot races. so perhaps they look at it and say, you know what, we're not going to win the presidency this time around, just going through their thinking, so let's try to keep the integrity of the party and save as many of the races as we can. is that where you think they are right now? >> i think there are three considerations these officials are thinking about. that's one of them. maybe the top one. the second one is what does a post-trump republican party look like? a conservative movement that embraces donald trump is a republican party that embraces donald trump after this, in addition to his comments about the judge, all the other things we talked about all along, deserve to have much credibility after this. i think that's the second consideration. i think the third one, this is for some i think the real struggle is the personal, the personal integrity. what does it say personally if you are willing to stand up and defend somebody, if you are willing to say this guy's going
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on, you know, talking about basically assaulting women, boasting about cheating, potentially cheating on his third wife, four months after he made that commitment, and i'm going to go and defend him to the world and say that he needs to be the leader of the free world. >> we have had presidents before who are not choir boys, okay? we have had bill clinton. anybody who read the history of john kennedy who was charming and much loved knows that he had many, many women in his life. nobody i think is going to excuse his behavior. i just raise the question does it equate to what's needed to speak to the presidency, right. you look at the people who have been mobilized across the country who believe that he's speaking for them and perhaps he owes them the biggest apology of all because they have been going along on this ride with him. so i think we look for a moment tonight, you know. i wonder if he sits down and does something very different. he need to do something very bold, whether it's a speech or
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an interview, to deal with this subject before he gets in front of that town hall tomorrow night. >> i don't think he's going to do a speech. there's a chance he may sit down for a lengthy interview about this. but you talked about john kennedy. you talked about bill clinton and of course, the gennifer flowers allegations came out. he addressed those in the "60 minutes" interview. there's a double standard here. people are shocked that donald trump would talk like this. but they have known this is donald trump for decades now. >> absolutely. >> he's only confirming something that everybody suspected about him, yet supported him anyway. here's the thing. donald trump's core supporters don't give a dang about any of this. they will excoriate you if you say this disqualifies him for the presidency. it's women voters. that's the key here. >> absolutely. let's put up the poll. we have a poll that shows where those numbers stand right now. this obviously is before what happened last night. >> it's just, it's not anything new that anybody didn't suspect he might have said. it's just the fact he said it on an open mic when you have the
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audio of it. you can think people say these things behind closed doors all you want but when you have it on audio it changes the whole texture. >> you have a question for these gentlemen? >> john, i'm looking at kelly ayotte in new hampshire who just put out a statement saying she won't vote for trump, she will write in mike pence's name for the presidency. you were just talking about down ballots here. when you look at how close this senate race will be for the majority, republicans could barely lose any of these in order to maintain the majority, and now, in a lot of cases, you could see a senate split 50/50. what's the sense you get when you travel out there about whether or not they are going on the coattails of trump or if this will be an election that really features a split ticket in a way we have not seen historically? >> i think split ticket probably is the way this is going to go. there are a number of people who will appear onstage with donald
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trump and for example, the attorney general of nevada is one who did the other day, but i think there are a lot of republicans who are going to run for the hills thinking if they stay with donald trump, particularly after these latest revelations, that their down ballot race will be a loser. >> we will see where we are in the story come monday morning because you will have a debate in 36 hours and how that's digested and how it's consumed by voters, we will see. john, thank you. with martha in st. louis. there's another big story. want to get to that. only moments ago, this hurricane we have been watching now for days made landfall. hurricane matthew making landfall just south of myrtle beach, south carolina. category 1 storm, slamming coastal communities. you have a lot of rain and powerful winds and the state's governor warning that the danger is very real still. >> a lot is still going on, whether it's winds or rain, we are having flooding events very similar to like what we had last year. so it is very -- it's still a very serious situation and we
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are not out of the woods. i know the storm is today starting to pass certain areas but all areas still remain dangerous that we have to be cautious with. >> team fox coverage. janice dean has not left work. good afternoon to you. jonathan serrie is near charleston, which was battered all night. the storm seems to be moving past you. what did you go through last r are much better than they were last night. the rain has let up and we are still getting gusty winds. over here you can see this tarp blowing in the wind. but last night there was this constant howling wind and battering rain, lots of rain overnight, and it knocked out power just before midnight to the entire island. in fact, across the entire state of south carolina, the governor tells us that more than 400,000
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customers went without power. but their main concern is not so much the winds, but the storm surge. charleston harbor experienced the storm surge of 9.29 feet overnight. that's the third highest on record and the highest it's been since hurricane hugo back in 1989. now, another concern is that the governor acknowledges that residents who were evacuated from low-lying areas are anxious to get back to their homes, but she says that's dangerous because there are still downed power lines, downed trees, debris in the roads, unsafe structure. so she is urging residents who were evacuated out of these dangerous areas not to try to return today or tomorrow. listen. >> the anxiousness is when the storm is coming, when the storm hits, you're praying and then now the frustration sets in and what i'm going to ask for you is
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patience. most injuries, most fatalities occur after a storm because people attempt to move in too soon. >> reporter: so it's not over yet. back to you. >> indeed. jonathan, thank you. on the beach there in south carolina. janice dean has the track in our weather center. what's happening now? >> it made landfall. that was something we thought might never happen as this continued to scrape the coastline of florida, really for a period of 24 to 36 hours. so we do have landfall. latest advisory has it as a category 1 storm, 75 mile per hour sustained winds but we still have to get through the next six to 12 hours and with that, the potential of weak tornadoes which could cause structural damage. we did have a tornado report on morehead city but they lifted that which is good news. that's going to be ongoing throughout the afternoon. the wind gusts still in excess of tropical storm force winds all along the coast here. 51 myrtle beach, we had reports of 87 miles per hour near hilton
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head. hurricane warnings still in effect for millions of folks along the coast of south carolina and north carolina and now we are talking about rainfall on saturated ground. in some cases, we could see upwards of 18 inches. that would be a disaster for this area because the ground is saturated. it cannot take any more water. flash flooding is going to be a huge concern as we go through the next couple of days. this area actually has seen way too much rain to begin with. any more is going to be a dire situation. so we will be -- >> i have seen pictures from friends in hilton head. they have four feet of standing water in that town. >> listen, this could be the worst part of the storm, believe it or not. even before when it was a category 4. this could be the legacy of this storm. >> janice, thank you. we will be back with you a bit later. janice dean in the weather center. coverage of hurricane matthew continues. martha, we have been watching this storm all week. we will continue to keep an eye on that. we are on the ground in south carolina and in florida as the storm churns up the east coast.
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it is still with us, folks. talked to fema about the response to this monster in a moment. more on the firestorm that is on the campaign trail today. first look now at the paid speeches given by hillary clinton to wall street giant goldman sachs. everyone has wondered throughout this campaign what did she say exactly in those speeches. bernie sanders wanted it. never got it. but now those words are out. the bombshell comments that have just resurfaced. >> we are living in the real world. this is nothing more than a sdrx from the important issues we're facing today. picking up for kyl. here you go. you wouldn't put up with part of a pizza. um. something wrong? so when it comes to pain relievers, why put up with just part of a day? you want the whole thing? yes, yes! live whole. not part. aleve.
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another significant political story breaking late last night. the wikileaks dump on hillary clinton's wall street speeches. moments ago, wikileaks tweeted quote, we have published 1% of the podesta e-mails so far. additional publications will proceed throughout the election period, end quote. marjorie clifton, principal of clifton consulting and matt, chairman of the conservative
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christian union. here is brn bernie moment durine democratic primary season. watch. >> i kind of think if you get paid a couple hundred thousand dollars for a speech, must be a great speech. i think we should release it and let the american people see what that was. >> that was back in march. she refused to release the speeches. here is one of the leaks that came out last night. apparently she said the following. if everybody's watching, all the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. so you need both a public and a private position, end quote. what does this do to her campaign? >> i don't think it does much of anything, to be honest. i mean, i think we knew leaks were coming and at this point, there's such a swirl of information, where it's coming from, connections to russia, all of this is again, part of a very sordid campaign season where
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it's a lot of hearsay and here and there. look, hillary clinton has already been labeled as an insider. she's already been labeled as institutional, as part of the, you know, the problem in terms of politics as usual. i don't think this changes anything. i think it's more of the same. >> matt, how do you react to this? at first blush you think what? >> i disagree. we have only seen 1% of the e-mails. i think voters do make up their mind, most voters make up their mind or at least of those that are gettable in the middle make up their mind at the end. i think these type of revelations will have an impact on the voters. i do think the clinton campaign has more tricks up their sleeve. they will be trying to put as much out against donald trump as possible. looks like wikileaks will do the same thing. looks like we will talk about everything except the issues that matter the most to voters. >> so far it's been that way. trump tells the "wall street journal" zero chance he will quit. he went on to say the support i'm getting is unbelievable.
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matt, your reaction to the tape, "access hollywood," billy bush, et cetera? >> terrible. i got five daughters. it's terrible. my wife has been in situations where it was hard for her to be an attractive woman at the workplace. it's terrible to have these types of statements and i think for republicans, you know, you want to condemn this inexcusable talk, but by the same token, we are faced with this -- with the other reality which is if donald trump fails to win the presidency, bill clinton, two for one. they always say you get two for one with the clintons. hillary clinton gets elected, bill clinton is right back in the oval office from whence he was impeached, disbarred, kept from going to the supreme court, had to pay $1 million in fees and fines and settlements. it's an unbelievable situation. >> reaction to this? >> it makes me speechless, anyone even defending or considering the idea. what he described was sexual
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assault so let's not mince words or be gray about what he was saying. and any woman who has been the recipient of unwanted sexual advances, a married woman, by the way, who he's describing, is cringing. is physically reacting to what they heard. i'm horrified. i'm saddened and i cannot even believe at this point that we are even considering putting him in office knowing what we know. to your point, bill clinton, they tried to impeach him. >> they did impeach him. >> it is a stain. it is a stain. but he is not who we are trying to elect as president. we are trying to elect the first woman president. it's not right. none of it is. but it is also not right to think that we would elect someone who we know going in talks about sexually assaulting women, talks about women the way he does and i'm sorry, it's not okay. >> it's okay. take a moment. >> sorry. >> when you both consider the
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events over the next 36 hours, you will have a debate on sunday night. >> that's right. >> so matt, where do you think in 48 hours we are in this campaign? >> first, i would like to say to marjorie, there's a lot of emotion and i just want to connect to the fact that i think these statements are repugnant. i think the fact is this. when you are a candidate at a moment like this, when you are going through a crisis, it's very rare that you have a big moment immediately on top of it and here we are going to be sunday night at the second debate, and it's all in donald trump's hands. he's either going to continue to own the fact that what he said was wrong and apologize as he did last night which i thought was a really good first step and connect to voters. in the end in a democracy the voters are going to decide whether or not they want him in this big job. >> to both of you, thanks. >> thank you. >> it's going to be okay. >> thank you.
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a lot going on. a lot to talk about today. we are all over it. on location in st. louis as we get ready for that big debate you guys were just talking about. st. louis at washington university in st. louis. but there's a lot to come on our other big story as well. people who are in the path of danger, hurricane matthew making landfall just a little while ago in south carolina as a powerful category 1 storm, as millions take cover and as they hope for the best. plus the state of florida beginning the long road to recovery aftermath yu cau matth widespread devastation there. and the governor warns residents do not let your guard down. >> quite a few pockets of road damaged right along the coast. we still have a lot of flooding. we still have a lot of downed trees. talking about we still have a lot of people without power.
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back with this fox news alert. we are just getting word that mike pence, the vice presidential candidate, who was expected to take donald trump's place at that wisconsin rally with paul ryan, is now also not going to wisconsin. mike pence will not be going to wisconsin today. it was supposed to be a big moment for paul ryan and donald trump to stand on the stage together in this really just several days now, 30 days to the election, to sort of bond and show a united gop party and overnight in 24 hours, all that has changed. trump not going to wisconsin now and neither is mike pence. we are working on getting another comment on that from the campaign to see why that is. when we get more information, we will bring it to you. 12:34 aun down the east coast and we are still dealing with matthew. more on our top story, that hurricane making landfall in myrtle beach, south carolina as a category 1, grinding its way
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up the coast. it lost some wind power but the storm surge and push of ocean water will be significant. forecasters describing the scene as serious inland flooding. this as south carolina governor nikki haley urging people in her state not to be too careful. meanwhile, millions along florida's east coast starting a long road to recovery. matthew left at least five dead in that state, we are told. close to 500 in haiti. more than a million in the dark in florida now and a staggering path of devastation in its wake. we are live in jacksonville where folks are trying to get home and it depends on the rivers, how high they are. how are things? >> reporter: just this last half hour the evacuation orders for most of the coastal areas outside jacksonville were lifted so just now, folks are getting their first chance to come back home and really assess the damage. but the good news is for most of the state, particularly many of these coastal towns, the damage
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is far less than what they were expecting. you can even see right where i'm standing, this record-breaking storm surge. this is quickly starting to disappear. take a look at this video we shot just a few hours ago, standing right here. we were walking through a couple of feet of water. then look back 24 hours ago, you can see with that storm surge in the middle of hurricane matthew, that storm surge, the ocean, the waves were pounding downtown jacksonville beach area. to give you an idea of just how strong and powerful the waves were in this storm as well, take a look at jacksonville beach pier. this is what it looks like this morning after hurricane matthew. 24 hours ago, that pier was about 100 yards longer than it is now. the biggest concern now is power. more than a million folks still across the state do not have power. the governor said a short time ago it could still be a couple of days before that power is restored to everyone. the other big concern, bill, is
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that they were warning this could be catastrophic, historic and in many ways, it was, but the damage is not what they were thinking it could be. lots of folks didn't evacuate. the concern is that now after this, they kind of dodged the bullet, in the future more people will decide not to evacuate as well and that could lead to much higher fatalities. >> thank you. a lot of concern for the carolinas. for that part of the story, back to martha in st. louis. >> let's get to some more on this dangerous situation in south carolina as the category 1 storm moves ashore with torrential rain, powerful winds and storm surge. more than a million people are under mandatory evacuation orders. governor nikki haley urging people to hunker down and be patient. >> now the frustration sets in and what i'm going to ask for you is patience. most injuries, most fatalities occur after a storm because
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people attempt to move in too soon. do not plan on going back home today or tomorrow. it is not going to be safe for you to go in. >> she's right about that. joining me on the phone, tom dunn, hilton head island, south carolina emergency management coordinator. welcome. good to have you with us. how are you all doing there? >> we are not doing too bad, thank you. >> tell me a little about the situation. what are you seeing in terms of flooding? >> at this point, we evacuated our entire force is off the island. all of our current assets, police, fire and ems, sheriff's department, fire and ems. we evacuated to locations off island and hunkered down there. we are just beginning to push our way back to the island and get an assessment where we are. >> you haven't seen what the
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damage is there. do you think a lot of people stayed or did most people evacuate? what's your sense of it? >> our sense is that a lot of people stayed. that was a concern for us and a concern pushing back. we do have some crews that have reached the island now and they are working to get the hospitals back open and get to the hospital and get the facilities back up and then begin the process of damage assessment and recovery. >> so when you get out there, what's the first thing that you do? do you start cleaning the house or is there too much water to do that? >> the first thing is to get critical facilities open and get the fire stations back so we can -- that's our first priority. then we will start running calls. >> you are breaking up a little bit. just to let people know at home. in terms of where the storm is hitting and where it continues to hit, what can you tell us
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about that? >> for us, it's pretty much moved past us at this point. we actually have a spot of sunshine earlier today but we have cloudy conditions. it's not too bad for us right here, right now. >> all right. just north of you, perhaps getting the brunt of it now. good luck to you. boy, these images that we have on video of the flooding are pretty amazing. good luck to you, tom. thank you so much. let's go back to bill in new york. when you look at that path of that storm, a couple days ago, the forecasters got it right when they talked about the track of the storm coming out of the bahamas and turning toward the north. that's what it's done. so you have florida in a cleanup operation. i mentioned a million without power today. now the carolinas are feeling it right now. south carolina, north carolina. the fema administration in a moment, we will talk to the head of fema to get an update on conditions there, what people need to know. also, it's been a rough 24 hours for donald trump. republican supporters, some of them now abandoning him right
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endorsement for whatever that means of donald trump. >> so that is jason chaffetz back home in salt lake city, utah, from last evening, we believe. chaffetz pulling his support for trump. one of many republicans apparently now distancing themselves from the nominee after that leaked audiotape. it was videotape as well. some are calling on him to drop out of the race. trump telling "the washington post" just about an hour ago quote, i never withdraw, i have never withdrawn in my life, no, i'm not quitting this race. i have tremendous support, end quote. byron york, chief political correspondent, washington examiner, fox news contributor, good saturday to you. first react to the republicans so far today who have said they won't vote trump. start there. >> there have been quite a few. you just saw jason chaffetz. also barbara comstock who is running in a competitive district not far from washington in virginia. martha robley and barbara byrne will not support donald trump. that's a big deal, especially given that alabama senator jeff
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sessions was one of trump's earliest and most influential supporters. in the senate we have seen joe heck running for a senate seat in nevada saying he's not going to vote for trump. then kelly ayotte, we have been talking about her, as well as mike crapo. mike lee wants trump to withdraw from the race. so the question here is does this become a real cascade of republican office holders, a stampede of them running away from trump. if it is, trump is in a very, very difficult position. >> you make the point also that they may be waiting, let's see what more fallout comes from it or where it goes. you have a debate that's going to dominate the news tomorrow night and again into the news cycle come monday. fox polling from last night, this was overshadowed as well. four-way race, hillary clinton 44%, trump 42%. so he's behind two after, well, kind of a tough week. >> those were pretty good
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numbers for him. to be competitive nationally after losing the first debate and having a horrendous week after that, i think that had to be kind of encouraging news back in the alternate universe we lived in 24 hours ago, had to be encouraging news for donald trump. so what i think you're seeing is some of the people we were just talking about, the lawmakers who were kind of early jumpers in this particular crisis, what you are going to see more of is people waiting, office holders waiting for a few polls, wait to see how the debate plays which is just 36 hours away. >> after all, they're politicians, right? >> exactly. see what voters are thinking about. >> all the numbers came out before this trump story broke. >> yes. >> they also came out before the wikileaks came out on hillary clinton. and apparently one of those leaked e-mails in the speeches she gave to a group on wall street or financial people here in new york, we believe, talked about open borders and that is something that she's a big proponent of. what did she say according to
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that release? >> well, she said in remarks to a brazilian bank that she hoped to see a future of hemispheric open trade and open borders and this would be a bombshell, a huge thing in a race were it not for this whole trump scandal we are talking about. because remember, many times donald trump, mike pence, his surrogates, have said hillary clinton wants open borders and the clinton campaign denies it. the fact checkers have all declared it totally false. now here we see in these leaked excerpts from speeches that she gave that she said she saw a future of hemispheric open trade and open borders. it would be a really, really big thing were it not for the trump stuff. >> now you understand especially in a democratic primary when bernie sanders was giving her a run for awhile why she would not -- why she would not want that speech and material public. >> exactly. there was a reason she didn't
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want it out. there was another part of these leaked excerpts of speeches where she said again to a bunch of insiders, very wealthy supporters, look, politics is kind of a dirty game, sometimes you have a public position and private position and maybe they're not exactly the same. well, this would be a perfect example of that where she was saying of course she'd deny she was in favor of open borders, she's for tougher border securitying, but uniting families and keeping them together, she would say that in public. and in private say this, very damaging. >> more to come. wikileaks just within the last hour say they've released 1% of the e-mails from the account they hacked on behalf of john po des toe. i want to get back out to st. louis where it all goes down tomorrow night. here is martha. >> so hillary clinton and donald trump both playing defense to a certain extent today in the wake of new controversy, rocking the
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hillary clinton and donald trump will face off tomorrow, their second presidential debate. it gives the candidates a chance to personally connect with voters. they are undecided voters in the audience. it also could have the opposite effect if a candidate slips up. here are some memorable moments from the past town hall debates. >> how has the national debt personally affected each of your lives. >> are you suggesting that if somebody has means that the national debt doesn't effect them? i'm not sure i get it. help me with the question and i'll try to answer it. >> it's not like what's your philosophy or positions on issues, but can you get things done, and i believe i can. >> it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in benghazi an act of terror. >> get the transcript. >> he did, in fact, sir. let me call it an act --
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>> can you say that a little louder candy? >> i remember those moments. there was one where jain was wandering around and walked in front of the camera. they're faced with unusual circumstances, sort of what to do with yourself when the other person is answering a question and donald trump, as we know, towers over hillary clinton. it appears from history that people do watch these more, they stay with them longer, and that is something that they're going to have to remember all of the history and the dynamic tomorrow night. >> real people, real questions. the best advice, talk right to that voter in front of you. in a moment it all goes down as they try, trump and clinton, to contain the latest bombshells next. to help prevent another one. a bayer aspirin regimen is one of those steps in helping prevent another stroke. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen.
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firestorm brewing today on the campaign trail, calls for donald trump to step down from some corners as leaked audio from a conversation he had 11 years ago in which he brags about his treatment of women. >> i'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- like a magnet. and when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. grab them by the [ bleep ]. you can do anything. >> brand new hour of america's newsroom. i'm martha maccallum in st. louis as we prepare for what is now an even bigger moment that
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will happen as debate two takes center stage. good morning from st. louis. >> martha, good afternoon from new york. i'm bill hemmer. mike pence put out a statement where he talks about he doesn't condone the remarks, cannot offend them. i'm grateful he's expressed remorse and apologized to the american people. the trump team going into damage control, trump releasing a video statement around midnight. today he says there is no chance he will drop from the race. his opponent, hillary clinton, also reacting, this is horrific, we cannot allow this man to become president, end quote. she has been hit with a surprise of her own in the past 12 hours. here is senior political correspondent mike emanuel live in st. louis as well. how is the clinton team reacting to all of this news today, mike. good day to you? >> low key in terms of a response, in terms of hillary clinton's reaction.
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the tweet was sent, but otherwise the clinton campaign seems to want to stay out of the way of the fallout of this donald trump latest controversy, her running made, tim kaine did he act on camera and no surprise blasted donald trump. >> it makes me sick to my stomach. i don't like to even say the words when he calls women bigs, dogs and slobs. i didn't like saying that on stage the other night with my wife and my mom on the front row. this is behavior that is outrageous. so there's a new story with more statements of this kind, i'm sad to say i'm not surprised. >> kaine is also trying to put pressure on top republicans and speaker paul ryan essentially saying they should all be asked whether donald trump is qualified to be president of the united states. >> what about this october surprise for her team, the speeches on wall street, the leaks that are now starting to come out? what's been the reaction there? >> wikileaks posting e-mails of
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campaign chairman john podesta. they're not saying they're authentic but not denying them. in one message clinton tells the brazilian bank my dream is a hemispheric common market with open trade and open borders, sometime in the future with energy as green and sustainable a as we can get it, pouring growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere. in another speech, clinton reportedly suggests wall street should clean up wall street. quote, people that know the industry better than anybody are the people who work in the industry. of course, throughout the democratic primaries we heard calls from brrernie sanders and supporters to release her speeches. now we get an idea of why they held off releasing them. >> mike ae manuemanuel, thank y. governor mike pence released a statement.
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quote, as a husband and father i was of fended by the words and actions described by donald trump in the 11-year-old video released yesterday. i do not condone his remarks and cannot defend them. we pray for his family and pray he has an opportunity to show what's in his heart when we he goes before the country tomorrow night. how do you feel about the title of that book this morning, ed? >> i feel fine. i feel fine. i'm the father of two young daughters and two young sons. i'm glad donald trump apologized. that's a starting point. i think that's necessary we have leaders that sometimes gets caught with audio that is demeaning. he's apologized. i was head of the missouri party. we're hurting.
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i think hillary clinton's actions as opposed to what she said or trump said in the past need to become the focus of the debate. >> the thing he has talked about that i know you feel strongly about, this gets in the way. >> it sure does. >> it can't help but become the story. it's a vulgar thing to say. the fact that women are the toughest part of his continge y contingency. this isn't out of sync with the donald trump that people see on tv. >> that's why it's necessary for him to apologize and we hear from him. this is a month out. a month is a long time in the election. he needs to get in front of this. again, apologizing is the most important thing. if you're a christian or conservative, you say apologize. then you want to see what are you about. he came to the funeral of my old boss, phyllis slaply. after he met the family, he said
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i didn't get a chance to pay my respects to the casket. he turned around with milan yeah and he went up there and prayed for a moment. i don't think that's a mirror to his whole show. billy bush has apologized, most people accept that. donald trump has now. keep talking about it. it's good for us to have a conversation. the choice is stark. hillary clinton and donald trump have visions of america -- >> you see what's happening in the party. i don't view people pulling away. paul ryan canceled his appearance. mike pence was supposed to go to wisconsin. he's not going either. we don't know why they made that decision. but we're working on finding out. >> you have other people who say he should drop off the ticket. >> what's your advice to him? >> most of the people saying drop out are people that didn't want him in the first place. hillary clinton did the same thing. there are sanders supporters who will never forgive her. i think donald trump needs to
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apologize, be forthright, turn back to what he won the most votes about, a vision on immigration and trade, what's going wrong with america and how to make it right. when he does that, he's got a real opportunity for people -- even suburban women to look at him and say what about law and order. in south st. louis, another cop killed in a shooting, cops killed in america. we've got to have a vision that says -- the wikileaks story it's hard to say let's cover hillary's leak when there's this sto story. but what she's said and done is more detrimental to the vision of america than what he may have said in locker room ban e ter. i'm not excusing it. >> you look back at moments in history, the checkers speech by richard nixon, they were considering taking him off the vice presidential ticket and he made a speech to try to tell people who he was as a person, he had a dog named checkers.
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also george bush, the dwi which happened on november 3rd before the election. that was a tough moment. it had a feeling in a way like this, wow, this is a big story. >> a very big point you're making. in this politics, you know when you get hit with stuff, you know you're close. trump has been surging. the leaks that are happening are happening because they're trying to damage him. that's the facts of politics. same thing with wikileaks against hillary. the deal is it's too early. the dwi had an impact because bush couldn't respond fast enough. i think trump has a chance to recover. he's got to say sorry and mean it, but he's got 30 days. america knows in the next 30 days they have a stark choice. >> i went out for a run this morning, so beautiful around here. i didn't see one political sign on one front lawn. >> either way. >> nothing. >> i saw one hillary clinton when i was on the way back to the hotel, nothing in the
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neighborhoods at all. donald trump squeezed it out in the primaries over ted cruz. what's your feel for your state? >> it's not anymore a bellwether state. trump will win handily here. in collier county, we're talking about people who don't see a bright future and they're wondering about trade deals in china and immigration. that's got to be the focus. hillary clinton's part of america has been in charge. the most devastating part of her leaks yesterday was she wants an open border, hemisphere. that's a vision that guts the working families of missouri and illinois and that comes clearer and clearer. donald trump doesn't win because people look up and say that's the guy i want teaching sunday school. >> what's your wife say? >> she says play the sound of
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hillary getting the rapist out of prison. she's not a conservative like i am, more moderate. >> the reason i ask, people who live in the suburbs of these cities across the country, it's the women, college women who can either probably put him over the top or not. their reaction to this whole thing is going to be very significant. he needs to speak to them i think in particular and perhaps a woman who fits that description will stand up and ask him that question point-blank right here at washington university. >> i think he also needs to speak to americans. he says, if you act vulgarly, you can be forgiven, but you can be better. i want see a him say i'm getting better about who i am. milan yeah is a striking and intelligent lady. she's going to hold him accountable, too. we're seeing something in public that is teaching moment. hillary clinton and bill clinton, if they're going to talk about marriages and language and actions and we're going to put hillary on the
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stand here, what she has said about women, what bill clinton has done to woman is stark. i don't think that's necessarily what we want to do. i'd rather talk about immigration and trade and the future. >> we'll see if he goes there tomorrow night. that's a decision he'll have to make. he can either do what you say, let's not do that, let's talk about what matters to the country. we'll see if he can do it. ed, thank you. >> thank you. >> interesting moment in missouri. appreciate you being here. >> thanks. >> back to you in new york. another big story today. matthew is still making a mess for millions, weakening but churning up the southeast coast as a cat 1 hurricane as we speak, making landfall near myrtle beach, south carolina. dropping buckets of rain where some areas could see the highest rainfall in nearly two decades. the push of the ocean water will be intense. further down the coast in georgia, matthew leaving thousands without power. in florida more than a million
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still without power. georgia governor nathan diehl urged half a million people to evacuate and had this message for the evacuees in his state. >> i know you may be anxious to get home but be cautious, be careful. don't re-enter an area until you've been given the clearance by either local authorities or state authorities. >> janice dean is tracking matthew. but we start with caroline shively live in taibbi island, georgia. how does it look? >> reporter: we can show you. this is the first look anyone is getting of this island. they have been cut off completely since yesterday. they took on 94-mile-per-hour gusts of wind. this is the rest left behind. this used to be a parking lot and a playground in the middle of this island. a hundred souls decided they could ride this one out during the storm. the mayor called them, begged
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them personally, anyone whose cell phone was working, last night he said this is your last chance, get out. we need you to leave. still those folks decided to go. the firefighters, the police, the public works folks, they couldn't get in yet. some of those folks are starting to trickle in. there's an ambulance. they are going door-to-door knocking on the houses saying are you in there, are you okay? we don't know how you're doing because we haven't been able to get through. you can see some of the other damage over here. this is what some of the houses, the folks here apparently got out. they heeded the warnings and got out of town. you heard governor nathan diehl saying most of our folks have left. in chatham county alone, 75% of the people decided to go. now, the last few, they're going door-to-door, are these folks okay? did they need medical carement we were in with a row of ambulances. they'll find out in the next few hours whether these folks are
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okay. >> now to janice dean who has been watching the storm for a week. what's it doing now? >> caroline shively mentioned the winds, 94 miles per hour where she is. we got wind gusts of 107 miles per hour off the coast of cape canaveral. we're still watching the storm. it's still a hurricane and it's bringing incredible amounts of rain to the carolinas, very concerned with the potential of upwards of a foot, foot and a half of rain and the tornado threats as we go through the afternoon for south carolina and north carolina. this tornado watch until 4:00 p.m. no tornado warnings, but at any given moment we can have some rotation. you may not see it coming. we've seen already reports of over eight inches of rain around the myrtle beach area. they are into a flood emergency because the rain keeps coming. a flood emergency for several of these counties all along the path of matthew.
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that's where you see the maroon shading here, that's flood warnings and/or emergencies happening right now. myrtle beach under a dire warning for you as the rain continues to fall. the forecast path, the good news is we will be saying good-bye to this storm overnight tonight and hopefully offshore. looking at one of the reliable forecast models again, making a close brush to the outer banks and perhaps a little bit of a loop,nd i know there's been a lot of focus on where that loop goes. there's the potential it goes into the bahamas, but it will be much weaker. i'm sure most of us would like to see it completely gone. >> he has overstayed his welcome. >> absolutely. >> thank you, janice. talk to you real soon throughout the day. back the st. louis and politics of the moment. martha? >> new polls out there show donald trump slightly slipping a built, that was before the hot mike moment.
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dana perino and chris stirewalt will weigh in on that and how it may play out for donald trump. >> tomorrow's town hall today matters more than ever. we know viewers like to watch real people, ask real questions. you had 85 million watch debate number one. how many will watch this one? how did they come up with the questions? we'll talk to two men who manage that in a moment, martha? >> we're watching them get everything set up inside. matthew obviously a major, major storm and hurricane. the cleanup begins. we'll be right back. i'm extremely concerned since this hurricane has been downgraded that people will let up their guard and it is these types of hurricanes that settle over our state that have caused the most damage and loss of life and destruction.
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now there will be a debate. in fact, 30 hours from now. there's a look inside the hall in st. louis. there will be a format that is quite different from the previous two. the first time mod raters will be taking questions from the internet. 30 questions from regular voters we're told.
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donald trump said this about two years ago, quote, certainly has been an interesting 24 hours. it will be interesting again sunday night. adam green, co-founder of the progressive campaign committee. adam ellison, national vice chair of the young republican national federation. gentlemen, good day to both of you, adam and adam. we're going to try to keep this straight. you shall be mr. green and you shall will mr. ellison. tell us what you think of the suggestions on wlien, what seemed to be the most common from voters? >> in addition to questions being asked in the studio, this is going to be a historic debate where to are the first time internet questions will be asked and at , we literally hit 3 million votes cast on questions and moderators will be looking at the top 30 as they choose the ones from the internet. it's interesting groups as diverseality the naacp, nra and
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naral, as well as young republican, young democrats. it's been a diverse effort. things that have risen to the top include questions on both sides of the gun issue, one from the father of a shooting victim talking about gun safety, one in support of the nra and second amendment rights. there are questions about social security, about trade, about student debt issues. the bottom line is that while the groups in the coalition disagree about many issues, what we agree on is a good thing, if silly questions and gotcha questions are tossed to the side and the questions most on the minds of voters are risen to the top. >> do the moderators read the questions or the voters themselves? >> there's two halves of the debate. for part of it, people in the loom will ask whatever is on their mind. that will be the most susceptible to the news of the day including the stuff we heard last night. the second part, the moderators will ask questions derived from
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the internet. that's where abc and cnn, co-moderators for this debate are considering the top 30 questions at voted on by the public. >> do martha radditz and anderson cooper, how much influence do they have over which questions are selected or do they have any influence? >> they have a lot of influence. they are driving the show. it was a big thing for them to commit to considering the top 30 questions at we were hopeful that given the huge diversity of groups and interests participating in this process and the sheer number of votes, 3 million at this point, that they will see fit to ask many questions and hopefully this will become the new norm. >> to mr. ellison now. what do you think of this process? is it going to work?
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>> i think it's a wonderful process. i think hopefully the days are coming to an end where a moderator is more interested in making the candidates attack and scoring political points. hopefully the days of, look, we want to hear from the public on these debates. these are our debates as the people. i can think of nothing more fitting than reaching into the most inner parts of america and hearing from students, from hard working folks, from successful people, from unsuccessful people, right, what are the struggles we face? what are the successes we can have when opportunity is realized in the country. those questions can all come to fruition right here at the debates, and i think that's an important part of the process so there is no agenda. >> gentlemen, both of you, thank you. there's been criticism of the moderators, we'll see how that goes tomorrow night depending which side of the aisle. mr. ellison and mr. green, thank you. adam and adam. >> thank you. >> thank you. millions in florida are
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donald trump resisting calls to drop out of the presidential race telling the "wall street journal" there is zero chance he will quit adding, quote, i never, ever give up. the support i'm getting is unbelievably because hillary clinton is a horribly flawed candidate. john mucey is the associated editor who worked on this story from the "wall street journal." good morning. welco
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welcome. >> tell about the circumstances of this interview. it was done at his apartment in trump tower last evening. what can you tell us? >> the washington bureau of the "wall street journal" talked with donald trump, and it was really clear that he was doubling down. the conversation did not include any additional apology by him or explanation for his remarks. he basically said there's no way i'm going to drop out, and those republican office holders who have asked him either to step down or withdrawn their endorsement of him, he called them holier than,000 and he said this is why republicans don't win presidencies because they don't tough it out. it was an unrepentant donald trump at this interview. he said he's looking for tward the debate and will bring the at stack to hillary clinton. >> he said, quote, go behind closed doors as a whollier
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than thou politicians and pundits and compared to them i look like a baby. >> his remarks are that they're standing by him and they're loyal. he says he's receiving a lot of support from his existing supporters. the issue here is that he's probably not going to alienate the real core of his base. trump's effort to bring women into his camp has been seriously hurt by this. the remarks were, kind of politely you would say lewd and crass, and more negatively you might say even violent and worthy of kind of a look at whether or not this is assault. some of the language was pretty strong. given that fact, i think he's probably going to sort of run into trouble with the very group he's trying this last sort of weeks of the campaign to attract into his camp. >> he also told the journal he may make a speech tonight.
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we will be watching. john, thank you. >> you bet. >> back to you, bill. matthew making landfall in south carolina, barreling toward north carolina as we speak. florida is starting the long road to recovery. you think about the hundreds of miles on the atlantic coast affected by this storm. the fury that matthew left five dead, more than a million without power in florida alone and a path of devastation in its wake. governor rick scott warning folks in his state that they are not out of the woods quite yet. here is what he said a short time ago. >> the biggest thing we can do is keep everybody safe. let's think about where we are now. we have a lot of downed power lines. don't touch them. talk to your kids, talk to your grandkids. if they're outside, do not let them get close to a power line. if there's standing water. we have standing water and downed trees, be careful. >> leland investigators is live
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in daytona beach. what's happening now with the sun out here behind you. >> reporter: the sun is out and it certainly is a nice day in daytona, a nice day to clean up. as the governor pointed out, there are a lot of dangers. a number of those puddles of standing water are rectified by the downed power lines and can be deadly very, very quickly. there's a lot of other dangers. take, for example, this one gas station behind us that was destroyed by hurricane matthew. not only do you have everything here, it threw off hundreds if not thousands of pieces of sheet metal like this all with razor sharp edges. imagine driving over that. speaking of driving, most of the big roadways, a 1a and atlantic avenue field with debris, sheet metal, siding, and also a number of boards we saw with nails sticking straight out of them.
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further north, 20, 30, 50 miles as you get up to st. augustine, massive flooding there. of course, the cleanup has to begin once the water recedes. one of the big dangers after these kinds of storms is the high water. people venturing out in it. people trying to get out of their homes. as we know, bill, people trying to drive through that water not realizing how deep it is and getting swept away and drowning. >> good morning down there leland, to you and the whole crew, thank you. craig fugate, administrator of the federal emergency management agency for the country, welcome. good to have you with us this morning. >> thank you. >> give us an update -- this storm looked like it was going to do more damage initially than it did perhaps. is that an accurate statement? >> well, we know it could have been much worse. we're in the recovery phase and doing assessments on those impacts. as we got further north, we saw
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more storm surge. we're still dealing with an ongoing threat with heavy rainfall and flash flooding in the carolinas. as we begin to cleanup in florida, we're still in a very dangerous situation in the carolinas from heavy rainfall and flash flooding. >> give us a sense of how people are doing in south carolina and what your concerns are there. >> well, the big concern is right now heavy, heavy rain across south carolina in to north carolina. matthew is actually interacting with a cold front that was coming down. this is setting up a very significant rainfall event. we're already seeing some forecast record flooding and potentially some record flooding along rivers that have flooded previously in south carolina. so we're watching this very closely. we want local officials, people listening to local officials and the weather service. with flash flooding, there may be areas that weren't in evacuation zones that need to move to higher ground rapidly as these rivers are starting to rise rapidly.
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we may look at potential of everything from failures and dam systems that we saw last year with some of the flooding. >> what is fema's biggest responsibility right now? what do people need from you guys? and what are you finding yourselves the most october paid with at this stage of the game? >> right now it's commodities and getting those out to where the states are setting that up. we're also focused very much on response and rescue operations and any supports that the states may need with current threat from matthew. as we begin the assessments and start the recovery in florida, we're very much supporting response operations further north. >> thank you, craig few gait, for what you're doing and we wish everybody well in the path of this storm and the cleanup process as well. >> thanks. donald trump says he will not go anywhere and several republicans jump ship.
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drop out. trump says that won't happen. chris stirewalt, fox news digital policy editor and dana perino co-host of "the five." hello to both of you. mike pence's statement, we pray for his family and look forward to the opportunity for him to show what is in his heart when he goes before the nation tomorrow night. so then, if you're donald trump in st. louis, what would you say? >> i think there are two different things, what i might advise him to say and rumors out of the trump tower today about what they are planning to do which is -- start with the rumor first and follow up with how i would change it. they plan to go full bore after hillary clinton and bill clinton's prior infidelities and how she treated some of the women who were involved in all of that. that apparently is one of the strategies that they're talking about. maybe that's a head fake.
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i think that last night's apology was not heartfelt. i don't think he really meant it. i think he only did that apology because he realized, oh, my gosh, it's really serious this time. today what he's been saying is he has tons of support. everything is good. this is just not good. and a chastened zrm who takes it on initially, answers it fully one time and says i am sorry, that is not how i want to be remembered and i promise you as president of the united states, i would never talk like that again. >> what does he say tomorrow night? >> he already telegraphed what he's going to say. this is the problem with the statement. i thought he was doing a great job in the statement right up until he said, and i'm going to attack hillary clinton's husband. you have to -- when it comes to damage control and politics, first you have to control the damage. before you can get to the pivot, before you get to the next thing, you have to first consume this -- what we like to say is
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you've got to eat the frog first, if you have to eat the frog. don't have ice cream sundae first. he didn't. he tried to pivot too quickly to attack hillary clinton. what donald trump needs more than anything else is to convince married women, especially married women, suburban women, that he is okay, he has a contrite heart, that he is not some kind of a monster. the way you do that is by leveling with people and saying, i'm sorry, i made a mistake, not her husband is a rapist. >> i think it's hard for him to say he made a mistake. one of the things that's important about these leaked audios, even though i don't like talking about leaks, it shows you who you are when you think no one else is listening. that happens to hillary clinton as well. what he said is bordering on assault, you can do this to women because you're powerful, whether you're politics, celebrity or management. that's not just offensive to women. >> he sent a tweet, certainly
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has been an interesting 24 hours. >> a truer tweet has never been sent. >> i think that will likely continue. now you have wikileaks do dockmentes released, how hillary clinton said you have to have a public position and a private position. what does she say tomorrow night knowing that more of this could come out. >> on the part where she says she's distanced from the middle class, she can answer that fairly well by saying, i grew up in the middle class and never forgotten it. obviously after we left the white house, we became very wealt wealthy. on the other piece about a public position and private position, this is exactly what people that don't like her or don't trust her have been worried about and complaining about for a long time. they think she says one thing in order to get their votes but cut deals with goldman sachs in the
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back room. >> that was good. i should do a tv show with you. you're all right. >> what would you say if you were her? >> hillary clinton, she has a big problem -- she had a big problem in the primary which is she was lying through her teeth to get through the primary. what is she? a corporatist democrat, centrist democrat, hawkish on foreign policy and she's for big business. that's her deal. in these speeches, if they're real, not the russian fakery, if they're real, she is saying behind closed doors, this is stuff, the bernie sanders people, that's stuff you have to say to get elected. interestingly for her, she would like to be able to say in the general election to anxious moderate voters, i'm e a big business democrat, i'm a sellout, don't worry about it. >> make it quick. i any we have some news with ben carson there. >> go ahead with that. >> what do you have with news on
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dr. carson. >> it's coming from ed henry. i wanted to bring it to the viewers at home and get response from chris and dana as well. ben carson and donald trump spoke, according to an interview that ed henry did with ben carson, and they believe that there's more to come, that there will be other bombshells like what we heard last night. if that is the case -- they may be just trying to prepare for it and think there might be something else out there and trying to prepare the american people for it. if this is part of a waterfall that keeps coming, what's the impact? >> martha, i heard something similar today and that they believe there is more and it is worse. hue hugh it who had been fairly supportive of donald trump for a long time said today he should withdraw. the reason he gives is there's more and worse to come. >> but here is the problem, if there's more and worse to come, these republicans who are now saying donald trump should drop out, he should step aside, he
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can't go anywhere. he can't get off the ballot except maybe in a handful of states. get real people, your party made a choice and you're going to live with it. >> earlier on the she you had byron york saying this could be a stampede of republicans leaving donald trump. you don't see democrats doing that to hillary clinton. elizabeth warren who probably dislikes what she said in those leaked transcripts, they're not walking away from her. some republicans are walking away from donald trump and quickly. >> i'll tell you what, you've got a lot to talk about today. >> i like the way martha says it best. >> you know what? >> you know what? looking forward to seeing you later. in the meantime, hillary clinton and donald trump will take the stage on this campus tomorrow night for a town hall where real people can stand up and ask
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questions. our next guest explains the challenges that come with that format, and we take a look at famous cooks from past town halls and how they went. we'll be right back in st. louis.
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it's going to be interesting tomorrow night's matchup in st. louis taking a different tone than the first debate. hillary clinton and donald trump will face off in a town hall and it gives them a chance to take questions directly from undecided voters in the audience, also some from the internet. it's a more relaxed style but also a challenge for these two as well. let's bring in the co-chairman for the commission on presidential debates. very big job. nice to have you here, frank. >> nice to be here. >> it's a different feel tomorrow night. >> totally different. in fact, as you know, we've always felt that podiums act as almost walls sometimes and we like vice-presidential debate. this is different. the candidates can get up, walk around, can go up to the questions that are coming from regular citizens, and so it's a totally different dynamic. >> the fact that they can move sometimes creates some interesting personal space issues. watch this moment when al gore stepped into george bush's space.
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>> it's not only what's your philosophy and what's your position on issues but can you get things done. and i believe i can. >> that's one of my personal favorites. i just love that look up and down, what are you doing, buddy. >> and the reaction of the citizens that were in the audience, they were the people who were there to question. >> they'll be able to react tonight, right? >> right. >> quiet, you don't get the feel but that makes a big difference. >> makes a very big difference. >> you also have that look on the person's face, you get the split screen, and that's something i think all americans can relate to if the look on their face says you're not answering my question. >> town hall has become time and time again the favorite debate format to the average american person. i think they like the idea that a fellow citizen is there to ask the question, although we have to spend some time with them. many of these people have never held a microphone and when we go through with them, like we will
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tomorrow, they're like this. >> john mccain did a little wandering around on the stage which didn't bode too well for him. let's take a look at this. you got to figure out kind of what to do with yourself out there. >> i have read about him and he's not -- he's not -- he's a -- he's an arab. he is not -- no. >> no, ma'am, no, ma'am. he's a decent family man, citizen, that i just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign is all about. he's not. thank you. >> that's a different moment than the one that i was referring to but it's also a very important moment. john mccain handled that question very well. but awkward moments can happen in this environment as well. >> absolutely. i mean, it's going to be very, very interesting to see how both of these candidates handle what happens here. this is different. remember it used to be in the town hall meetings, it's only
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questions coming from the citizens in the area. here about half the questions will be brought in. the others will come from anderson cooper and martha raddatz. and many of those questions can come from the work we've done with the social media platforms. all the social media platforms have given possible questions to anderson and to martha. they're not required to ask those questions, so we're going to see a different mix than we have in past years. >> thank you very much. good to see you. >> pleasure being with you. >> back to you in new york. >> thank you, martha. matthew has been a killer and it's still out there. we'll get the latest update from the national hurricane center. we'll have that for you after the break here on a saturday afternoon. special edition. with the right steps,
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that's it from st. louis. great to be here. we'll see you back here tomorrow. matthew makes landfall in the united states as a category one hurricane. millions of americans still at risk from high winds and storm surge flooding. >> we're tracking matthew since the very beginning and will tell us where this destructive storm is headed next. janice? >> the legacy of this storm is happening right now with close to a foot of rainfall on the carolinas. we'll talk about it and the threat for tornados. stay tuned. the track of matthew is still to come. thank you for spending part of your saturday with us.


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