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that kind of the way he speaks? >> i said, fellas, do me a favor -- i said do me a favor. >> will you please do me a favo favor? >> laura: we had like 50 of those. it could have gone on for another few minutes. shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team take it from here. shannon. >> laura: hurry home safe when you can, laura. great to see you. >> laura: i will. >> shannon: tonight to the fox news alert. a brand-new video tonight of the president commented on the whistle-blower in this evolving showdown with democrats and any number of unelected government actors over the commander-in-chief's call with the president of ukraine. and as inconsistencies regarding the whistle-blower's complaint begin to surface, republicans are pushing to uncover the sources identified as "white house officials." so what happens next? the former acting attorney general matt whitaker is here on deck. plus, as americans are buckling up for the impeachment ride, lawmakers are prepping for a two week break.
progressive groups are urging speaker pelosi to keep up the impeachment momentum, but the progressive squad of congresswomen say they need to go home to their constituents. what about those moderate democrats caught in the middle back however the voters in the key swing districts feeling about impeachment and i? hello and welcome to "fox news @ night," i'm shannon bream in washington. we start with gillian turner, inconsistencies in the whistle-blower complaint, what can you tell us tenant? >> we are working a couple of major leads tonight. first up, the white house planning to address allegations of a cover-up. their report reportedly working on a statement to address the whistle-blower's claim that they mishandled the transcript of president trump 'us july 25th phone call with ukraine's president zelensky. we have yet to see that statement but multiple sources tell fox news the white house severely restricted officials access to all phone call transcripts in recent months due to security concerns. specifically they cite calls with australia and mexico that leaked in the past.
as it administration officials focus on identifying the leaker, the president addressed staff of the u.s. mission to the u.n. earlier in his brain a video obtained by bloomberg that says he's eager to identify the person that "leaked information to the whistle-blower." >> i don't consider them to be spies, but anybody who leaks conversations that are classified or of national security sensitivity ought not to be working in the government, whoever you are, and i hope you're watching, whoever you ar are. >> "the new york times" reports that whistle-blower is a cia employee who was at some point detailed on assignment over to the white house. sources tell fox news they served on the staff of the national security council. on twitter the president reiterated his claim that he or she only had secondhand information. an allusion to the fact the
whistle-blower didn't hear his conversation with ukraine's president themselves, but rather was told about it afterwards. another thing we are seeing tonight, administration officials now scrambling to explain rudy giuliani's involvement in all of this. the key element for the case the democrats are trying to muster now against the president. they say giuliani should never have been involved in the first place. to that end, we are getting screenshots from his cell phone reporting to show that the trump administration solicited his input. take a look here at the special rep for ukraine, kurt volker, allegedly introduces giuliani to a ukrainian official close to president zelensky and says "i suggest we schedule a call together monday." of president trump's of the democrats focus on giuliani is a sideshow. >> they don't want to talk about infrastructure, they don't want to talk about lowering drug prices. they don't want to talk about anything because they are fixated on this and nancy pelosi
has been hijacked by the radical left and everybody knows it. >> looking ahead, congress continues its own investigations in the judiciary and intelligence communities while the whistle-blower is reportedly nailing down their legal team now, shannon, and their strategy, reporting is that's going to take several weeks. >> shannon: some of it seems like it's on fast track. we will watch minute-by-minute. thank you for getting us up-to-date. the nation of austria's top intelligence spending the day sparring with lawmakers in open session and then behind closed doors, explaining why he initially delayed turning over the whistle-blower complaint at the heart of democrats impeachment bush to congress. catherine herridge is here with the recap, catherine. >> shannon, the three and a half hours of public testimony laid a very stark political difference as well as new secondhand allegations of a white house cover-up. >> this case is unique and
unprecedented. >> is the nation's top spy, the acting director of national intelligence joseph maguire testified before the house panel, the now declassified nine page whistle-blower complaint was released. >> we were resented with the most graphic evidence yet the president of the united states has betrayed his oath of office. it ends up being nothing like what we were told. >> there was a war so they relied on secondhand accounts for multiple u.s. government officials. that during his july 25th phone call with a ukrainian leader, president trump used "the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 u.s. election." >> on page one the complaint reads, "i was not a direct witness to most of the events described." >> this seems like a very important line to look into. >> the white house released record of the call shows mr. trump asked him to investigate corruption allegations against former vice president biden and his son. >> that conversation is not okay
and i think it's disappointing to the american public when they read the transcript. i can say what else it is not. it is not within the complaint. >> while passing no judgment on the veracity of the allegations, he testified. >> i want to stress that i believe that the whistle-blower in the inspector general have acted in good faith throughout. i have every reason to believe that they have done everything by the book and follow the law. >> based on a justice department legal opinion, mcguire's of the complaint did not meet the legal standard for immediate congressional notification because the president's call was diplomatic and not an intelligence activity. and because the president of estevez private call is at the heart of the complaint, mcguire said the next hurdle was executive privilege. >> you want to the subject of the complaint for advice first about whether you should provide the complaint to congress. >> it did appear that it has executive privilege. it was not stonewalling, i didn't receive direction from anybody, i was just trying to work through the process and the
law of the way it was written. >> the complaint also alleges the call transcript was moved to a secret system in the white house. "reserve for code word level intelligence information such as covert action. ">> there is an allegation of a cover-up. >> if this military aid was withheld from an ally that is fighting off putin's russia and it was done so to be used as leverage to get dirt in a u.s. political campaign, don't you think that should be investigated? >> i have no situation awareness if that was withheld or why it was withheld, mr. chairman. >> i can tell you we are going to find out. >> but the complaint relied heavily on media reporting, which republicans compared to the democrat-funded opposition research targeting the president. >> much like the steele dossier, the allegations in the whistle-blower's complaint are based on thirdhand mainstream media sources rather than first-hand information.
>> two former intelligence officials told fox news based on the language in the complaint, the whistle-blower appeared to have "a minimal understanding or direct knowledge of highly classified systems" adding "this could be a huge red flag." testified an effort is underway to bring the whistle-blower to capitol hill, shannon. >> shannon: catherine herridge , thank you. top democratic on the house intelligence committee fired for what you later call the parity of president trump's phone call with the ukrainian president. >> i don't see much reciprocity here. if i hear what you want, i have a favor i want from you though. and i'm going to say this only seven times, so you better listen good. i want you to make up dirt on my political opponent, understand? lots of it. >> shannon: not the words of the transcript but let's turn to the aggressive progressive chris hahn and fox news contributor ken starr, welcome to you both. >> thank you very >> thanks for having us. >> shannon: after that, tweeting this, "schiff knows
that a lot of people watching will think that's actually with the transcript said. it's not. in fact, the whole point is that the transcript doesn't say what schiff just said it said. judge ? >> shannon, there is a compelling need to get things right and not to play actor, to go on stage and to pretend. we are talking about the president of the united states. one would think that what we used to call respect between the branches would just tell the chairman don't act this way, it's a sophomoric and really i think it's unpardonable forte, especially given the nature of this, the international relations, formulations of the united states, to do anything other than the facts and just the facts. >> shannon: doesn't undermine his argument here -- this is what brit hume tweeted out, saying this. "if the conversation were as damning as schiff would like him
he would have read directly from it rather than making up dialogue, probably not surprising in light of the extravagant collusion claims he made for two years. is he undercutting himself? >> i don't think is undercutting himself. i think sometimes you exaggerate for effect and i think he was doing that. it is horrible to think that the president of the united states would use the full faith and credit of the american people and their investment in their allies for his personal political gain, which the transcript clearly shows was his intent. >> shannon: so why not just read the transcript? why not just read those words? >> the transcript has been read, people see it. look, i don't know a lot of people who sit there and watch these congressional hearings all day. obviously look for the highlights and that definitely made it into the highlight reel, as you just showed it, but with the president said in with the president did should be the focus of what's going on here and i'm interested to understand if can start, who impeached somebody for getting it on in the oval office would be impeaching this president for sitting behind the resolute desk
and extorting one of our allies, who was in dire straits but now with russia and really needs our help. >> shannon: i will let you tackle that. >> may i respond? how about, chris, perjury before a grand jury. how about obstruction of justice. how about being found in contempt by the united states district court judge. so let's just stick with what shannon asked us. i think we need a little dignity in washington on both sides of the aisle. >> we do. >> it would be helpful if we just said, mr. chairman, we call you on this. you call the president because of his tweets or whatever. why don't you show some dignity, especially since your new, you were playing to the crowd. i just think it's this constant -- >> i get it. >> good. good. we are in happy agreement. >> are not trying to -- i'm not trying to say that the president clinton's behavior was appropriate at all, but i think the american people would like
to know from you, a man who was very much involved with the last impeachment of a president, if you think the actions of this president warrant and impeachment inquiry, because i believe they do and i would imagine based on your standards they absolutely do. >> shannon: judge? >> chris, get ready. what i would say is let's have a full debate instead of the kind of show that we had today where i think the vice admirable -- the vice admiral who has had such an exemplary career was -- i think a very vicious way it was very unbecoming to the house of our present lives in the intelligence committee to do that. i say let's have a debate on the floor of the house to follow the traditions of the house of representatives to go back all 62 times that there have been impeachments of judges or federal officers, you've had a debate on the floor of the house. until we have a reasoned debate, a vigorous and robust debate and
then a vote, no, i don't care what you call it, but today was an oversight hearing that's masquerading as impeachment and impeachment is one of those serious constitutional issues, let's have a debate, let's have a vote. >> shannon: listen come with multiple committees that are now -- upstart investigations, will continue investigations as far as the more formal inquiry and so we are going to get a lot more information in the weeks and months to come, although tonight's report that article could be worked out much sooner rather than later. first, judge starr, come back. >> i agree. i agree, i absolutely agree and i just would like to know what he would recommend because that usually happens. >> shannon: i will let you guys talk it out on the commercial break but in the meantime we've got to wrap it up, thank you both for being with us. this is a fox news alert. 24 hours since the democrats launch their impeachment inquiry, republicans say they cashed in nicely. the trump campaign and the rnc reportedly saying they've raised
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>> shannon: at the whistle-blower complaint so alarming to congressional democrats they finally decided it was time for a formal impeachment inquiry, but tomorrow they go on a two week break. correspondent david spunt is here to tell us why members of the so-called "squad" think this is exactly what they should be doing. >> a little bit of a debate whether it's a good idea to go
away. a big week for democrats on capitol hill but as you said they're heading home not just for a few days but for two weeks. they insist their momentum is not going away and impeachment talk will continue when they are gone. >> you're not a king! you are elected! you are a public servant. you took an oath! >> members of the house and "the squad" want president trump not only impeached but out of office and soon. they held a rally outside the capitol thursday afternoon. >> he has explicitly targeted minority populations in our country with white supremacy rhetoric and white supremacy policies. >> now democrats across the political spectrum must come together to decide how to formulate a strategy that's cohesive. >> i'm pretty confident that we are not going to see this process get dragged along. i think that the timing and the urgency of this matter is part of the consensus that we have all the way from the bottom to
the top. >> but congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez and her colleagues won't be walking the halls of the capital for the next two weeks. they'll be in their home districts trying to make the case for impeachment with voters. >> it affords us another opportunity to be a community directly from our constituents. >> dean phillips were prisons a swing district and came to washington in january. he tells fox news some of his republican constituents are starting to sour on president trump, talking impeachment with voters isn't always popular. phillips knows it and he calls it a great decision. >> some of us recognize too that if we served one term in this institution and do so with principal and honor, we will have done our jobs. >> on tuesday, congressman eric swalwell, who once ran for president just a few months ago, it will hold impeachment town hall, though still running for president including beto o'rourke saying members should stay in d.c., do something now about impeachment and skip that recess or many electrical district work period. >> shannon: they like to make
clear they are working and seeing constituents and holding office hours at home, they are not just on vacation. people exactly. >> shannon: thank you. >> thank you. if >> shannon: republican lindsey graham has a question for democrats tonight. as for the house of representatives, he asks if you believe this complaint has put the public in grave danger, don't you have an obligation to vote to launch and impeachment inquiry? americans deserve to see where you stand and evaluate your judgment. journeyman, host of left coast news, ethan bearman and fox news contributor guy benson. welcome to you both. >> hey, shannon. >> thanks, shannon. >> shannon: to the idea of having a vote on the floor, this is very interesting from a "new york times" and they talk about "the squad" here and say when they speak, everybody listens, how the freshmen are shaping this impeachment push. it goes on to say the few democrats who oppose impeachment can ill afford to take a vote on the house floor on whether to open and impeachment inquiry and ms. pelosi does not plan to hold one according to lawmakers and senior party officials.
a guy, why not hold a vote? it's time, it's time. >> because they are playing games on this. i happen to believe there are very concerning developments in this whole ukraine situation. i'm not sitting here saying the president has done nothing wrong. i've argued the opposite on the of cases but if the democrats actually believe their own rhetoric, that the president has committed this grave sin against the republic in misusing his power on foreign policy for his own personal interest, then it shouldn't just be some words in front of cameras for the speaker of the house, it should be an actual vote to get this process going, but because they are so interested in telling part of their base yes, we are pursuing this, while protecting some of the moderate members who are still warmish about it, it kind of seems like perhaps they are not as serious as their rhetoric would suggest. >> shannon: this opens a whole lot of other questions. marc theissen writing in "the washington post" about this. "democrats printing out of the evidence -- he says the irony is
thanks to the democrats impeachment push, the president is going to get his investigation of joe biden's son, except it will be carried out by ukraine, but by the u.s. congress. so ethan, if they are going to dig into all of these things and all of these allegations, is biden likely to be caught up in his? he's having to talk about it a lot on the campaign trail and i can only be good news for his competitors out there in the primary. >> i don't know that this is all that bad for joe biden. i've heard some people talk about the fact that this even could be pushed by certain competitors of biden in the race, i've heard that from some people but i don't believe this is a big problem for biden, and back to what guy just said, that's the reality of whipping votes, is what's happening right now. that's getting speaker pelosi the time that she needs to with the votes that they need for the democrats to have the majority to actually vote on the impeachment on the floor, they need that time to clarify some of this evidence. i mean, if i'm joe biden i don't want to be talking about this right now either, however, he
didn't go to a foreign power's leader, withhold aid and say look into my political rival if you want your military aid, which we should be giving them without forms because of our 1994 treaty. >> shannon: you know what people are pointing to come to him on camera more than once saying i went to those guys told them you're not getting their billion dollar loan guarantee unless you get rid of this investigator, this prosecutor. there's been a lot of talk about whether that prosecutor was a good guy or a bad guy, but he was investigating a company on which hunter biden sat on the board. that something biden is going to have to talk about. >> there's no question that there are appearances there of potential conflict, but the differences the anticorruption people in ukraine are on record as recently as may of this year saying that the reason biden went there was because of other people in the state department saying that the lead prosecutor was not prosecuting corruption, so it was at the behest of our state department that be then-vice president went and said, look, you have a problem
here, you're not going after corruption. this was one of the contingencies of our aid. >> shannon: that's what rudy giuliani is staying tonight in his own defense, that the state department was -- there were officials there encouraging him to have these conversations with ukrainian officials. >> i have no idea exactly what rudy is doing at this point because he's the president's personal lawyer, but he's kind of acting on behalf of the country in certain ways, but he's talking about the interest of his client, which is the president, which is not the same thing as a country. i think the whole rudy aspect of this is confusing and seems to get sometimes more confusing as we watch them do interviews for 15 minutes at a time. it's fascinating to watch. it is not, i think, elucidating much information for me that is persuasive or reassuring in either direction but let's just be clear, the fact that president trump has some very serious questions to answer and some real criticisms to respond to doesn't mean that the bidens get a free pass either.
whether or not you believe that this prosecutor in ukraine was a bad guy, and he was kind of universally condemned as a corrupt, having joe biden as the point person over in ukraine pressuring the government on that front when his son has been hired by this ukrainian gas company for $50,000 a month with no expertise whatsoever when biden's fingerprints are all over this issue, that unto itself i think smells very fishy. as does the fact that joe biden was asked did you ever discuss these matters with your son, foreign business enterprises. he said no and it turns out that wasn't true. so we can actually focus on two balls at the same time. >> shannon: we will see what congress chooses to do. in the meantime, ethan and guy, great to have you both, thank you. >> you bet. >> thanks, shannon. >> shannon: trace gallagher on deck with a new look into the business dealings of another one of joe biden's family members, he's next. ♪
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>> shannon: fox news at night has been investigating all week business dealings of joe biden's family, now getting new attention. tonight it's not only biden's son hunter but also the former vice president's brother. chief breaking news correspondent trace gallagher is on the case for us tonight, good evening, trace. >> good evening, shannon. there've been many allegations that joe biden's family invoked his name and political clout to further their private business dealings, but this is the first involving the biden cancer initiative, that's the nonprofit the former vice president started following the death of his son beau. joe biden's brother jim is being sued for allegedly telling them don't make a company that has brother "be very excited about their new mouth rinse for cancer patients." that is cancer initiative would promote the product. the suit also alleges jim biden's true goal was to bankrupt company and steal its business plan. a jim biden spokesman says "these charges stem from a frivolous lawsuit and are pure fantasy. we are not surprised at such
baseless accusations have emerged during the democratic primaries," and last month joe biden said this, watch. >> i have never discussed with my son or my brother or anyone else anything having to do with their businesses, period. >> meantime, former top ukrainian prosecutor in his first comments since the whistle-blower story broke tells "the washington post" hunter biden did not violate any laws in ukraine. he's the same top prosecutor was earlier allegations prompted really rudy giuliani to start digging for bert to dirt. not only did he reportedly meet with rudy giuliani three times, he was mentioned in the whistle-blower complaint released today, though his name did not come up in the rough transcript of the phone call between president trump and the ukrainian president. he stepped down as ukraine's top prosecutor and has not yet explained his change of heart
concerning hunter biden, but the man who wrote a book about hunter biden's business deals says the case remains very cozy, watch. >> very troubling. if you look around the world, there are two countries where joe biden is the point person for the obama administration, china and ukraine, and in both cases, his son lance huge deals in both countries. what are the odds of that? >> yet still no evidence that hunter biden did anything nefarious. shannon. >> shannon: trace gallagher on the west coast, thank you. next, former acting attorney general matt whitaker is here alive, we are talking about the white house's apparent leak problem. how you track it down, but first it is time for tonight's wheel is round up. abc news issuing a correction to a report claiming president trump made investigating joe biden a precondition for any condition, communication with ukraine's president. they cited a current advisor to president vladimir zelinski, but
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look into allegations that russia hacked the democratic national committee. u.s. intelligence officials and special counsel robert mueller corroborated crowd strike of us that the dnc was hacked by russia in 2016, but the government relied on forensics and data analysis by crowd strike rather than examining the servers themselves. tech experts do say that crowd strike's imaging observers has been a standard practice for decades. that brings us to the president 's questions for the ukrainian president. "i would like for you to do us a favor and ukraine knows a lot about it, crowd strike, the server. they say ukraine has it. i would like you to get to the bottom of it." it's unclear whether president thinks crowd strike is connected to ukraine, conservatives said the president is on the right track. >> he's really asking the president of ukraine to help bill barr in the investigation of when the trump russian
collusion investigation actually began. crowd strike up mentioned. he looks more and more and more like that elements and ukraine have some responsibility or culpability in the original investigation, the fbi and so forth into trump-russia collusion. >> shannon: there have been reports about that before. a crowdstrike sent a statement to fox news after the transcript was released saying "with regards to our investigation of the dnc hack in 2016, we provided all forensic evidence and analysis to the fbi. as we've stated before, we stand by our findings and conclusions that have been fully supported by the u.s. intelligence community." top republicans are pushing for an investigation of their own. they want the whistle-blowers sources, so, pointing to what they say are inconsistencies in the complaint. >> did anybody -- you were anybody in your office leak this to "the washington post" or
nbc news? >> ranking member, i leave to leave the intelligence community, we know how to keep a secret. >> shannon: bring in a former acting attorney general matt whitaker to get some of his reaction, great to have her with us. >> great to be her. >> shannon: looking through the complaint, i noticed in the letter, these are some of the phrases the person use. multiple u.s. government officials. more than half a dozen u.s. officials. multiple officials. multiple white house officials. that person says all of those individuals were sources for this complaint. how many people would have access to this information, and how does the white house, which has made efforts to try to crack down on leaking, find out who leaked the information? >> that's hard and we have, when i left the department of justice, we had dozens of open leak investigations going on of classified information, so it's sometimes very challenging. if you get to a very small pool of who had access to it, usually less than 100, but sometimes to find a specific person that leaked it, it's very difficult.
it's important to try to find those people, because i think they really undermine not only the integrity of the government, but also they could hamstring the president from having confidential calls with world leaders, but knowing this president the way i know him, he has succeeded in spite of all of these leakers and these people that are out to get him and to take down his presidency, so it's really admiral full. i think any of the other president would be complete was stymied by the stuffiness of the president continue to aggressively pursue his agenda and it's really admirable. >> shannon: it seems like he does not mind having an opponent. he kind of, i think, like that at times. it fires him up and it gives him new ammunition, it almost seems, to keep going despite the things he's now facing. so when you hear that, this mention of multiple, more than a half-dozen, white house officials, does that surprise you, or does that sound about right? this person, we are told, reportedly is connected to the
cia, that that many people would be talking to them and sharing information from inside the white house with them about things that they've heard. is that how this normally works? by those conversations of what happens? >> i would be very surprised if once we hear from this whistle-blower if they are willing to name names and support those accusations. this is the thing with the sort of anonymous documents like this. oftentimes they don't say who they are, they don't say who they talked to and they make it look a lot bigger than it actually was. it could just be a couple rogue people at the white house or on detail at potentially the nsc that got together and decided to write this in the most damaging way possible and to try and get out there into the bloodstream and dave accomplish that goal, but eventually these folks are going to have to account for the fact and i think some of these facts are probably not going to hold up. >> shannon: the president has a lot to address.
that's been laid out. let me ask you about crowdstrike because this investigation happened, there was a lot made of the fact that the dnc wouldn't turn the servers directly over to the dni, they said we shared all our information, but enslaved, josephine wolf wrote this. "the dnc made a strategic mistake underlying so we are a private company for its investigation, thereby opening itself up to these questions, these types of criticisms and conspiracy theories." >> i think is a legitimate question and the whole theme that i see throughout this is a president that stands for transparency. he turned over the mueller report almost completely unredacted, turned over this complaint, he's turned over this transcript and i think is expecting that there's some transparency on the other side. a lot of folks are frustrated with what hillary clinton appears to have gotten away with and i also see a president that wants to end corruption worldwide and i've said this before, i see a president who is asking a world leader, the ukrainian president, to stamp out corruption and to see if there was corruption in this
biden transaction. so to me -- it's a complete double standard. in the russian investigation we had everybody in the mainstream media, the left, the politicians, democrats saying we need to endlessly investigate russian collusion, which came out with a big nothing. and on the other side, the same people that were for an endless russian investigation now are saying we can't even look into this biden situation, we got to shut it down. i just think that's a complete double standard and that's not what they should be about. it should be about transparency and making sure the american people get to judge for themselves what this is about. >> shannon: if they investigate the ukrainian call, you've got to make maybe some of the biden stuff will come and too and he's having to answer questions about it. that would, regedit with us. new video of children chanting about how much they hate president trump. where did this happen? plus, l.a. city councilmember is asking the governor to declare a state of emergency over the exploding homeless population.
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schools by parents and teachers joined hundreds of others marching to san francisco city hall protesting the trump administration's immigration policy. tonight a behind-the-scenes look at how immigration officials try to track down illegal immigrants and wanted criminals in california's largest sanctuary county. griff jenkins takes us along on the ride. >> police, can you come to the door please? >> we placed a detainer on august 9th, that detainer wasn't honored, he was released. >> in those releases, criminal illegal immigrants remain a problem for ice. they say it's extremely hard and dangerous in places like los angeles county, the largest so-called sanctuary jurisdiction in the nation. >> is definitely a danger to the community, but had that local law enforcement agency honored our detainer, had they told us that we would have come pick them up we wouldn't be here now. >> a sentiment echoed today by the acting ice director. >> the fact is people are being hurt and victimized every day
because of jurisdictions that refused to cooperate with ice. >> democrats who have called to abolish i.c.e. disagree. >> all of the research shows that the jurisdictions that have instituted sanctuary policies are actually safer than those that haven't. >> ice says it said she would approximately 10,000 detainer's in l.a. year. but only 500, or roughly 5%, were honored. >> it's our fourth stop of the morning and yet again ice strikes out. people inside this house say this individual is not here. speaks to the difficulty that ice has been trying to make his apprehensions. they can't kick and a door and they don't raid. >> ice eventually made an arrest on our ride along. >> i believe he has 17 contacts with local law enforcement. he has a dui dating back to i believe it's 2007. a dui with prior manslaughter
charges. >> arrested by ice, what is your side of the story, how do you feel about this? >> i feel bad. i pay taxes. >> for all the criticism, ice says the focus remains on interior enforcement in removing criminal illegal immigrants off the street. in los angeles, griff jenkins, fox news. >> shannon: from the southern border to the homelessness crisis in california, tonight a member of the los angeles city council says the problem is so bad it's time to declare a state of emergency. let's talk to that l.a. city councilman, joe. joins us now, great to have you back with us on "fox news @ night." >> thank you, shannon, for having me. >> shannon: a lot of talk -- we have a lot of things to talk about, as quickly as we can i want to talk about this meeting on monday where apparently there were some measures that were tried -- you guys try to discuss with respect to homelessness but people were not hearing it. if the "l.a. daily news" says this. "a proposal to restrict locations were homeless people can sleep appear to be dead on arrival tuesday at a raucous los angeles city council meeting
that was disrupted by jeering audience members who shouted "shame on you" at the council for even considering the idea." how are you guys tackling this problem when you float a proposal, there people who don't even want you to have a discussion about it? >> well, the beauty of our democracy, shannon. however, with this incident and his ordinance, what's called 4118, it was allowing the city council to set some rules and regulations on encampments where people can live, sit, or sleep on our city sidewalks based on a court order. but at the same time, that same ordinance is going to go back to committee and be able to get some resolution to it and i've always said that you can be homeless and homeless -- being homeless is not a crime, but we do have to have some law in order in place ensuring that there is some order on our streets and it doesn't give you an opportunity to have a free-for-all if you are
homeless. that's what we are struggling with. at the same time, the city of los angeles and our mayor and our council is doing more than any other city in the state by advancing 7,000 permanent supportive housing units. we also have nearly 2,000 temporary emergency shelters, but in my district, shannon, i am moving on three temporary emergency shelters and when they're all completed, it takes three years. a three year period, so we are missing the emergency part of that and i think -- we know we can bypass all of these permitting's if we do have a state of emergency in california. >> shannon: you want to ask the governor there, gavin newsom, to do this so it would take off a lot of the red tape, the administrative paperwork, those kind of things, so you can get the shelters up and running and get things passed more quickly and activated. do you think think you will gog with that plan? >> i sure hope so. i know governor newsom is working hard with the state legislators took salt homelessness. in fact just today he signed a
bill that will exempt all the environmental compliance on homeless housing, but shannon, that took seven months. if we had a declaration state of emergency, that would have been done immediately. we also need to keep in mind that 130,000 souls are living in our streets here in california. can you imagine, god forbid, shannon, if there was an earthquake tomorrow where 130,000 people would be displaced? we would call a state of emergency immediately. this year is no different. we have a public health, public safety crisis, a housing crisis in our state and we have to be relentless and lead with urgency. >> shannon: we will stay in touch with you about that proposal to the governor and see how it's accepted there because we know the numbers continue to skyrocket there despite efforts on the ground. councilman, great to have it with us, come back again soon. because thank you so much, thanks for having me. >> shannon: to the rest of you, most-watched, most trusted,
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