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struggling. >> they are. they're going to get through it. leland: fox news sunday is up next. mike emmanuel is in for mr. sunday, chris wallace. we'll see you soon. >> relief for millions of struggling americans in jeopardy as president trump suddenly objects to the bipartisan covid deal. >> it really is a disgrace. >> the outgoing president's demand to increase the aid checks for american families, sending congress scrambling. testing the allegiance of republicans and potentially leading to a government shutdown, as the president grants dozens of pardons to long-time allies and associates and continues to contest the results of the election. we'll discuss it all with republican senator pat toomey, only on fox news sunday. then -- >> our darkest days in the battle against covid are ahead of us, not behind us.
>> concerns about new more contagious strains of the virus and increased tension over who is next in line for the vaccine as millions of americans travel this holiday, despite health warnings. we're joined by admiral brett jirwa of the white house coronavirus task force. plus -- >> we're going to keep fighting until every legal vote is counted. >> we'll ask our sunday panels whether republicans' efforts could be derailed to win a sunday majority, all right now on fox news sunday. hello again. happy new year from fox news in washington. a christmas holiday season like none other as americans isolated by covid precautions and looking for an economic boost, face more uncertainty. the president in florida after throwing a wrench into relief proceedings, in washington time
is running out and tom he row shaping up to be one of the most consequential days of the congressional year. the house is scheduled to vote on the president's demand for $2,000 direct payments to some americans, although it will likely die in the republican controlled senate. the country also facing a looming shutdown in the middle of a pandemic which has killed more than 330,000 people in this country. in a moment, we'll speak with republican senator pat toomey of pennsylvania. first, let's bring in mark meredith with the latest from the president's mar-a-lago retreat in florida. mark. >> reporter: mike, lawmakers from both parties are pleading with the president to sign the stimulus and funding bill, already in front of them, all in an effort to prevent a government shutdown and to keep pandemic assistance alive for millions of americans. this weekend, president trump doubled down on demands congress rewrite its stimulus package, tweeting overnight, 2,000 plus 2,000 plus other family members,
not 600. remember, it was china's fault. on christmas eve, democrats tried to amend the $900 billion bill and increase direct payments but house republicans blocked the effort. >> we do not have an unanimous consent. >> reporter: with the stimulus and $1.4 trillion government funding bill in limbo, democrats say the consequences of inaction could be dire. >> people are scared. people are desperate. >> reporter: on saturday, enhanced unemployment benefits lapsed for some americans, an eviction moratorium expires later this week. president-elect joe biden urged the president to sign the deal, already worked out to make sure millions of americans can put food on the table and keep a roof over their heads. as biden weighs the final cabinet picks, president trump is demanding congress not certify the november election when lawmakers meet for a joint session in early january. >> thank you all for being here. >> reporter: the white house says the president is receiving constant updates on the ongoing investigation into the christmas day explosion in nashville.
the fbi which is leading the investigation believes the blast was intentional. tennessee's governor is asking for federal assistance to help with the cleanup. overnight tennessee's congressional delegation sent a letter to the president urging them to support the assistance with officials saying there is so much help needed not only for the city of nashville but local business as well. mike. >> mark, thanks. joining us from pennsylvania, republican senator pat toomey. senator, welcome back to fox news sunday. >> good morning, mike. thanks for having me. >> enhanced unemployment benefits ran out saturday. we could face a government shut down midnight monday night. you disagree with some of the provisions in the massive funding package. why should the president sign it? >> well, because you don't get everything you want even if you're the president of the united states. we have two legislative bodies and democrats control one, republicans the other many look,
if it were just the free-standing government funding bill, i would almost certainly be voting against that. but i think the covid relief measures are really, really important and in my state as in many other states we have governors who are closing down businesses again. people are out of work. certainly through no fault of their own. i think we need the extended unemployment benefits. i think we need another round of the ppp loans which are really grants to small businesses to keep their workforce part of their business. and time's running out. so i understand the president would like to send bigger checks to everybody. i think what he ought to do is sign this bill and then make the case. congress can pass another bill. i don't agree with $2,000 checks to people who have had no lost income whatsoever which is the vast majority of americans but the president's free to make that case. democrats will agree with that. and see where it ends up. we've got a bill right now that his administration helped negotiate.
i think we ought to get that done. >> your colleague, senator lindsey graham, suite tweeted after spending time with president real donald trump today i am convinced he is more determined than ever to increase stimulus payments to $2,000 per person and challenge section 230, big tech liability protection, both are reasonable demands. do you worry we're heading for a government shutdown, sir? >> i really don't know. i think the president has not actually explicitly said he's going to veto this bill. i take that as a hopeful sign. i think as he leaves office, he will -- i understand he wants to be remembered for advocating for big checks but the danger is he'll be remembered for chaos and misery and erratic behavior if he allows this to expire. so i think the best thing to do as i say, sign this and then make the case for subsequent legislation. >> house speaker nancy pelosi is going to hold a floor vote on the $2,000 stimulus item president trump has requested,
putting all house republicans on the record. how can republicans vote against more aid when millions of americans are still unemployed through no fault of their own? >> yeah, because it's terribly untargetted. right. why would we be sending $2,000 to people with six figure income who have had no suspension, no reduction of income at all. consider the millions of federal employees, never missed a check. they're not going to miss a check. their expenses are probably somewhat diminished. savings rate went through the roof. why would we be sending several thousand dollars to these folks? this money isn't sitting on a shelf. we're going to print it or we're going to borrow it. and i think that the aid should be much, much more targeted. it should be targeted to people who have actually lost their job. small businesses that are actually in danger of going under. those are very real categories. the numbers are significant. that's where the aid should go. not to people who have never had any loss of income. >> president trump pardoned
former campaign aides, former gop congressman, jared kushner's father, former blackwater security operative, senator ben saas saying, quote, this is rotten to the core. while the president certainly has the power, do you disagree with how he is using it? >> in some case, i do. i think the case of mike flynn, for instance, was completely legitimate to pardon him because the prosecution was an abuse of pow 0:wear. i don't think michael flynn ever committed a crime. but some of these other cases, i mean, my goodness we have tax fraud and bank fraud, witness tampering, obstruction of justice. but because they were close to the president, they got pardoned. this is unfortunately reminiscent of the mark rich pardon by president clinton. it is legal. it is constitutional. but i think it's a misuse of the power. >> some are suggesting it's time to reform presidential pardon you powers. do you agree?
>> you know, it's a good discussion to have but it's a tough call. this is obviously a con constitutional power so i don't know how we would do it without amending the constitution. and i think it would be very challenging. >> do you anticipate a lot more pardons before he leaves office, senator? >> i don't know what to anticipate. this president is often unpredictable. >> president trump continues disputeing the outcome of the 2020 presidential contest. do you have concerns about it hurting republicans in georgia where those critical runoffs will decide the senate majority? >> well, i think the president should accept the outcome of the election. he had every right to challenge these votes. he had every right to recounts and to litigate. he has done all of those things. in my state of pennsylvania, he's drawn conservative republican judges who have dismissed these cases for a lack of any credible evidence.
in the case of georgia, i think the reason we're going to win is we have better candidates. i think that's just an objective fact. better candidates and people who better reflect the wishes of the people of georgia and kelly loeffler and david perdue, two terrific senators man. i'm still cautiously optimistic about georgia. >> what are the stakes in georgia, in terms of what's the difference between mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer. >> if republicans hold the senate, then legislation will necessarily reflect broad compromise because both parties will have some say and neither party will be able to simply run off at will. if republicans were to lose both senate races in georgia, then the democrats will have complete control of the elected government and i'm afraid that much of that party has been taken over by this radical woke left and a very liberal agenda,
openly advocating socialism, advocating for the elimination of police departments, i mean, just all kinds of crazy policies and there will be no check on those policies except whatever they choose to -- however they choose limit themselves and that's not very reassuring. i think for the sake of some balance and some consensus government, it's really important that republicans hold onthe senate. >> back to the 2020 presidential. the president's campaign asked the supreme court to throw out three state supreme court rulings on mail-in ballots and asking the general assembly be allowed to pick its own slate of electors, even if it doesn't overturn the entire election, is that argument valid? >> so, again, it gets complicated. the pennsylvania state supreme court sadly is a rogue court where democrats have decided to be extremely political and disregard the law. that's a fact. and one of the examples is we have a statute that says in
order to be counted, ballots have to arrive by 8:00 on election day. it's black and white. it's very easy to read. that's what the law says. and then the pennsylvania supreme court came along and said we'll disregard that and allow votes to be counted for up to three days after that. they have no legal authority to do that. it's outrageous. but here's the important point, mike. it's fewer than 10,000 votes. president trump lost pennsylvania by over 80,000 votes. so even though that was a very bad decision, i think it should be overturned by the u.s. supreme court, it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the election and that's something we have to recognize. >> you're not running again in 2022 but what are your concerns looking forward about elections in your home state when at least the president's supporters think this election was a disaster. >> well, i think there is some lessons we should learn. there is some changes we should make. we should overturn these completely illegal pennsylvania state supreme court rules.
i for one think it's perfectly okay for us to go back to the rules we had before the pandemic, where the vast majority of people voted in person. that served us for, i don't know, over 200 years, it probably still works. if you really can't make it to the polls on election day, you can get an absentee ballot but i think that would make all the sense in the world to go back to that system. it's easier to monitor, easy to verify and people would have more confidence in it. >> president trump waited until the final hour on wednesday to veto the national defense authorization act which you voted in favor of, the defense bill affirmed 3% pay raises for u.s. troops and authorizes more than $700 billion in programs and construction. do you have the votes to override president trump's veto? >> well, i think we'll find out pretty soon. this legislation has been passed by congress every year for i think about 60 years running. it's been signed by presidents. i think it does put the right priorities behind our defense
policy and it passed both houses with huge overwhelming votes. but we'll see. that's why you have the vote. >> senator toomey, thank you. thanks for joining us this christmas holiday weekend. i'll see you back on the hill. up next, we'll bring in our sunday group to discuss the president's actions and the final stretch of his days in office. we all have seasons in our lives where something takes us to a place where we need to ask for help; and that's what food banks are here for. i asked dale if walmart would partner with us and he said, "absolutely, let's figure out how to get this done." when you start working in an area and you're out in the stores, and in the community, you see the need. it was just the right thing to do. ♪ ♪
>> the president, when we finally thought we would be able to give people hope, doesn't give a damn about people. he threw more fear, he threw kerosene on a fire. >> we are giving money to pakistan, we are giving money all over the world, really, and not focusing on those who need it the most here at home.
mike: members of both parties in the house expressing serious frustration over the covid relief package that the president is now threatening not to sign. it's time for our sunday group. jason riley of the wall street journal, fox news contributor kristin soltis anderson and former dnc chair, donna brazile. panel, welcome. >> thank you. mike: it doesn't look like republicans are going to go along with president trump's demand of $2,000 stimulus checks. jason, are we heading for a government shutdown? >> i don't know if we're headed for a shutdown, mike. i do think that republicans, however, feel like the president really pulled out the rug from under them at the last minute here. people don't elect republicans because democrats don't spend enough money. they elect them because they want some fiscal responsibility. and the president's own negotiator, treasury secretary steven mnuchin, thought he was negotiating in good faith for a
$600 payment. i understand the president wanting to give people more money but frankly that is not i think what the country needs right now, so much as they need for businesses to reopen, for the economy to get back up to speed. and these lockdowns are the problem, not the fact that checks are supposedly too small. people need to get back to work and to the extent that some of the unemployment insurance relief supplements in this bill are too high, there will be a disincentive for people to go back to work if they can be paid more to not work. so we have to worry about that as well. mike: to be clear, house speaker nancy pelosi initially accepted the $600 stimulus payment. donna, did she cut a bad deal? >> absolutely not. since the spring of 2020, the speaker and democrats have been trying to give the american people relief. we know that this virus is not going to disappear overnight. and what the house democrats
along with those in the senate tried to do was to negotiate a fair deal, something that will help the american people. you know, the $300 that the federal government will provide to the states in addition to what they will receive is a lifeline to people getting back on their feet. many of these workers who have lost their jobs, they have lost their healthcare, they are struggling to make ends meet and at a time when they're trying to stay in their apartments or of pay their mortgage, all they want is relief. i agree with vice president -- i mean, the president-elect, joe biden, it's an abdi case of president trump's responsibility not to sign this bill and not to allow the government to continue to operate. mike: house lawmakers return tomorrow to start the process of trying to override president trump's veto of the national defense authorization. how awkward is t for the gop to clash with the president on defense and stimulus, kristin? >> it's putting a lot of republicans in a very tough spot
because some of the president's most vocal advocates are also those who would say we need to be giving a lot of funding to our defense, we cannot be allowing this to lapse and so it's putting them in a tough spot. what's ironic, on the one hand, the president is right to complain about the fact that these bills are enormous, that things like the stimulus bill or the covid relief bill that they are enormous bills, full of tons of stuff and yet at the same time the president is calling to add a detective policy piece to a military bill, sort of asking to add something to a bill where it would be better if it was just kept clean and about what the bill should be about which is our military and nation's defenses. so it's putting a lot of republicans in a tough spot. we always tend to find congress getting to the end of the year whether it's in 2012 with the fiscal cliff, 2018 with the government shutdown we faced there, it always seems like the holidays are the time for congress to struggle to be able to do its job properly. mike: do you expect republicans to stick together and override the veto and what about section
230 concerns, jason? >> i do expect republicans to stick together. i think they will override the veto if in fact the president pushes them to do so. i understand the president's concerns about section 230. i don't think this is the place to hash that out, however. i think that needs to be done separately. mike: to presidential pardons, in was couldn' controversy whenl clinton pardoned mark rich and patty hers s' herst. so this isn't glue the constitutional powers are going to be difficult. he undermines the rule of law. he makes our justice system look so small when he basically rewards those who of had been convicted of crimes. i mean, stealing from charities. but this is the president throwing as much chaos as he departs washington, than we saw when he first arrived.
mike: there's no indication this is the end of president trump granting pardons. we have heard names like julian assange, rudy giuliani, steve bannon, kristin, what are your expectations? >> well, i expect there do be more pardons. i think it's a real shame to see the way the power is being used in many of these instances. i can't help but think about the president's actions on criminal justice reform where he was taking those who had been charged with crimes that were very small, sentenced to absolutely unfair sentences, having their lives taken away. that's the appropriate use of pardon power, to undo wrongs that have been done to those who are effectively innocent or who have been punished far too harshly, not to use it to pardon political allies, it's simply zonk what are your expectations over the next couple days. we have the vote on the house floor about the $2,000 payments. probably not going to go anywhere in the republican-led senate. what are your expectations in the immediate days ahead? >> well, i do believe that it is
the responsibility of congress to return to washington, d.c. and to try to get as much done especially now the stimulus is absolutely needed. this is not the time to allow the government to shut down. and a look, i understand the president is not -- he does not like the results of the election. i'm trying to be charitable this morning. but the fact is, is that this is a time for a peaceful transfer of power and it's perhaps more prudent for him right now to begin to think about his legacy and not throw anymore chaos into the room. mike: jason, looking ahead, what do you expect this week and how awkward is it for republicans to be battling with a president from their own party? >> well, republicans i think are used to this. this president has been pretty unpredictable from day one. so i mean, it's a little surprising that he would pull this again right at the end but not entirely. so it's pretty much in
character. i'd also say about the pardons, that some of the more controversial pardons at least in terms of what the washington crowd says, i don't find particularly controversial. when you look at paul manafort or roger stone, these are people who are only prosecuted because robert mueller thought he could flip them in the russia investigation and the russia investigation turned out to be a huge waste of time and i see no problem with the president doing this for people who stayed loyal to him during an investigation that shouldn't have taken place in the first place. so yes, some of the pardons i think were out of line, congressman, chris collins, duncan hunter, i think they violated public trust. i'm not sure they deserve pardons. some of the ones that have gotten the most attention i think were well deserved. mike: panel, we have to take a break here. when we come back, public health guidance doesn't stop millions of americans from traveling this holiday. we will speak with admiral brett
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mike: the holiday season less merry and bright as covid-19 continues to hammer the u.s. as new strains emerge overseas. joining us now, admiral brett giroir, a member of the white house coronavirus task force. admiral, welcome to fox news sunday. >> great to be here. thank you for having me on. mike: tsa check point travel numbers reveal more than 1 million per day traveling leading up to christmas despite the covid warnings. do you expect a spike in new cases as a result, sir? >> well, it really depends on what the travelers do when they get where they're going. we know the actual physical act of traveling in airplanes for example can be quite safe because of the air purification systems.
what we really worry about is the mingling of different bubbles once you gets tour destination. over thanksgiving we saw a mix picture. in the midwest and northern plains, cases continued to go down despite the travel which meant that people really did the kinds of things we talked to them about like wearing a mask and limiting your gatherings. we have to wait and see. i encourage people to follow cdc guidelines, make family gatherings small, safe, protect the elderly and we can get through this. mike: there are concerns about a new variant or of mutations of the virus in places like the united kingdom, japan, even canada. ontario's chief medical officer announced saturday they confirmed two cases there. considering global travel, do you think this new strain is now here in the united states? >> well, we don't know if it's here or not. we would say that there's certainly a possibility that it's here already because of global travel and it's so so many countries now. let me tell you what we know about the strain. it is number one, it is not any
more serious than the normal strains of covid. however, it does appear to be more transmissible. there's not direct evidence of that but there's lots of sugge suggestive evidence. you can protect yourself by mitigation measures. we have no evidence to suggest, nor do we believe that this -- that the vaccine would not be effective. in other words, we do believe the vaccine will be effective against this variant, so that's why we're so excited and still very enthusiastic about the vaccine program which is being rolled out on time, on schedule, with almost 15 and-a-half million doses being distributed by this week coming. mike: the united states is requiring negative tests from travelers coming from the united kingdom. do we need that elsewhere? is that enough at this point? >> so i think what's often not talked about is since march, there's been a very substantial travel restriction on u.k. and a
variety of countries from europe. so since march, we have had a decrease of 90 to 95% of travelers coming from the u.k. which is our first line of defense, which other countries did not have. the added testing puts an extra layer and that's very important. there's no perfect silver bullet but a test three days before. the cdc can't order testing once your in states after that. but we would certainly encourage states to have quarantine orders or have testing once the travelers arrive. 95% decrease already. the extra testing puts another barrier and the states could also of impose things. so i think we're going to be pretty safe with these as, again, we roll out vaccines which are going to be highly effective against all the strains that are out there. mike: to the covid vaccine, we've seen first responders, high profile politicians rolling up their sleeves. who is next in line to receive the shots? >> well, in the first wave, it is really our healthcare workers and those in nursing homes. the next wave is going to be
different by state. the general recommendations are those over 75 and certain frontline workers. but it's going to vary state by state. let me talk about governor abbott in texas. he is going to prioritize anyone over 65 because those are the people who go to the hospitals. it's not the frontline 24-year-old worker who is at low risk of getting the infection and at very, very low risk of getting serious results from that. but over 65, yes, that's who is in the hospital and certain other people, like cancer patients or people with sickle cell disease. governor de santis in florida is prioritizing anyone over 70. i think you're going to see variability. i think the variability is critically important because as the hospitals fill up, the first priority really needs to be to save lives and reduce the burden on hospitals. you're seeing that in texas and florida. you'll probably see that in many other states. mike: how important is it for president trump to receive the vaccine in terms of building
that critical public confidence? >> well, i of course think the president should get a vaccine at the right time. 75 million people voted for him. he has devout followers. i think it would set an example. i'm not his physician so i don't know exactly but he did receive monoclonal antibodies within the last couple months and there is sort of guidance about waiting 60 to 90 days after monoclonal antibody. it could interfere with the actual vaccine. of course, president trump for his own protection and to set an example for the 75 million people who voted for him, i think it's a great idea. mike: currently the emergency authorization is for people at least 16 and older. what about younger children? isn't that important in terms of getting them back to school? >> well, we all, as a pediatrician, we certainly want to have the data to show it's
safe and effective in children. we don't have that yet. that is coming, though. 16 and above, for one vaccine, 18 and above for the moderna vac seen i think it's important for listeners to understand that getting children back to school is safe now. there's data upon data upon data that children could go back to school safely in person. there was a recent study that said of all the places children are likely to turn positive, school is not one of them. so it is safe and very important to get children back in school even before they are vaccinated. now with the community rates going down, we hope after the holidays, because we're seeing that trend right now and with vaccine, it will be even safer because there will be less spread in the community. children do not need a vaccine to go back to school safely. it's vital for their health to get them back physically present as soon as possible. mike: what about the teachers, should they be higher on the priority of list in terms of vaccinations with millions of american parents worried their
children are not learning in online school. >> well, they're probably going to be higher on the list than the general public but they certainly don't fall into the category of current recommendations or what's happening in texas or florida and many other states. young, healthy teachers should be no more at risk than other of individuals in other professions. they are critical infrastructure. we love our teachers. they're going to be higher than the general public but not in the next level almost any state, because they're not at higher risk, unless they are at higher risk, if they have higher tension, cancer survivor, over 65, of course they go in that category. otherwise they'll be further down the priority scale. we need to take care of those who are vulnerable, who will die, who will be hospitalized first. you're seeing that by the recommendations, by several states. mike: it feels like we're waiting for the point where the
united states gets to herd immunity. what's your current estimate? >> so herd immunity, when we get to herd immunity, that's when the pandemic is essentially over. there could be pockets in certain places where the vaccine hesitancy and people don't get vaccinated. the truth is, nobody knows exactly the number. based on mathematical models as we have right now, it's somewhere between 70 and 80% of individuals having gotten the vaccine or having gotten the natural infection. we want to develop herd immunity by people getting the vaccine because they're at no risk of ill health effects or spreading it to other of individuals. somewhere in that 70 to 80% range is probably the sweet spot. nobody knows for sure. but based on mathematical mo decialtion people kind of converge at that -- mo of tells, people kind of converge at that number. mike: when do you expect that any american who wants a vaccine should be able to get the
vaccine? >> we're clearly on schedule, 20 million vaccinations distributed by the first week in january, we expect another 30 million in january, another 50 million in february. and with the current contracts, even with just the vaccines we have right now, we still expect that any american who wants a vaccine can be vaccinated by june. that's really very exciting. that means a couple hundred million people being able to be vaccinated by that time. so with good mitigation steps, with increasing vaccinations, particularly among those who are vulnerable, we should see clearly light at the end of the tunnel but we've got to keep discipline, got to keep vigilant right now as we vaccinate. mike: thank you for joining us. thanks for your service. we wish you a happy and very healthy new year. up next, when our sunday panel returns, control of the senate puts georgia in the national spotlight with both parties sending in reinforcements to turn out the base.
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everything is at stake. everything that was at stake in november is at stake. leading up to january 5th. >> i am confident that senators david perdue and kelly loeffler will keep the senate republican and win an historic victory for american liberty. mike: vice president-elect kamala harris and ivanka trump in georgia with different messages ahead of the critical january 5th runoff races. we're back with jason, kristin and donna. with the president's focus still on overturning the election, there are concerns, jason, about this dividing republicans and even putting vice president mike
pence in an awkward spot. >> yes. i think those concerns are warranted. even with what's going on with the defense bill and the covid relief package that's still being negotiated in washington, i think it's having a big impact on this race. both david perdue and kelly loeffler supported both the defense bill and the covid relief package. in fact, david perdue ran an ad after the relief package passed congress that said i have delivered for georgia. so now he has to decide whether to switch positions on that, because the president has, or to stick with what he said and cross the president. and you see this, when it comes to the sort of dual messages the president has been sending, on the one hand he's saying to his supporters go out in georgia and vote for these republican candidates. but then in the next breath he's saying your votes don't count, the system is rigged. that's why joe biden stole the election. these mixed messages i think are
creating all kinds of problems for these republican candidates in georgia. mike: about those critical runoffs in georgia, what about the concern of this ongoing election hangover, hurting republicans, kristin, and their efforts to hold onthe critical senate majority. >> well, it certainly doesn't help that there is a mixed message situation going on. however, i do think that republicans had been feeling pretty good about those runoffs until the events of the last week which have really kind of thrown things up into the air. typically, in a runoff election like this, would you expect republicans to be favored. there are more republicans in georgia. if turnout drops off, typically more high turnout voters tend to be more republican. what we're seeing now is already over 2 million early votes cast in georgia with still some more time to go until that election. so there's going to be unbelieveal and unprecedented turnout. you're also seeing incredible amounts of money go into the state of georgia. this week, john ossoff reportedly raising over $100
million. that is beyond eclipsing the most money that any senate candidate had previously raised in any senate race. at a certain point the poor people of the state of georgia won't be able to turn he anywhere without seeing ads from the candidates. both parties really feel it. that's why i think the idea that the president's messaging about his allegations of election fraud, et cetera, may not have as much of an effect. there's so many other things on the line, most notably control of the united states senate in a moment where it could hand united democratic government to democrats if it goes a certain direction. mike: donna, more than 2 million people have voted in the georgia runoffs. how do you analyze it? >> i still believe it will be a nail-biter. i like the numbers. there's some counties that are over-performing, based on what happened on november 3rd. but it's going to be a tight race. i do believe that both democratic candidates have run an exceptionally good campaign,
forcing senator perdue and loeffler to explain the gridlock in washington, why the checks are being held up. i do believe that mitch mcconnell move as a result of those two races, but at the end of the day turnout on election day will probably matter most. we do know that georgia's one of those states with 159 counties. we've seen the recount happen several occasions. if the losing candidates lose by less than 1 percentage point, it could be another couple weeks of recounts. but overall, i feel good about democratic performance. the fact that we are able to draw in some independent voters and a lot of young voters, especially in the metro atlanta area. they're also turning out in these early days before the race next week. mike: to the political dynamics on capitol hill, speaker nancy pelosi has an historically slim majority looking forward and a split between the moderate and progressive wings.
jason, if their common enemy has been president trump and he's due to leave, how do they function? >> [laughter] yes, she's going to have her hands full and so will president-elect biden. you know, he's going to have the progressives pulling him one way, his going to have moderates pulling him another. >>.nancy pelosi knows she is speaking of the house because of those moderates and not because of those progressives. so she is going to have to tow that line. it's going to be difficult. this is i think what the american people voted for. they apparently did not want to give president trump a second term but they did not want to give democrats overwhelming majority to have the run of washington. and so this is the -- i think this is what the american people want. mike: kristin, how do you sense things will work in the house of representatives, a very narrow majority and really there's some
moderate democrats who saw some of their colleagues lose by basically going along with the agenda. >> democrats had a good election at the presidential level but everything else was a bit of a disappointment and i think it's really left a lot of folks in the democratic party wondering is it time for a change in leadership in congress. that right now, the democrats have really failed to i think have a very adequate pipeline for those who are younger and in their ranks and who might be moving up to be the rising stars of the party in the future. they haven't had an opportunity to do so. the same people who have been running the democratic party have been doing so for a very long time and so to the extent that we lined up in a situation where there's still gridlock, where progressive feel like we have a lot more control in washington than we used to and we still can't get things done, that is going to place enormous pressure on nancy pelosi. she's held control for a leally long time. i don't expect she'll face a challenge that's significant to her speakership. she'll have to do a loot more to
create a sense that she is allowing younger democrats to have a seat at the table in the leadership of their party. mike: expectations are high, particularly among progressives. how does speaker pelosi balance these competing interests, donna? >> she has shown incredible leadership in bringing everyone into the room so that everybody has a seat at the table. look, we have hakim jeffreys. we have alyssa slotkin. we have so many young democrats who are basically at the table, helping to lead this great party. we don't throw people away or tell them to sit -- go in the back of the room simply because of their age. she loves and values the experience that every democrat brings to the caucus and she's going to continue to lead the democratic party in the house and i think she's going to be an incredible force along with president-elect joe biden and vice president-elect kamala harris moving the country
forward in 2021 and beyond. mike: it may not be an easy job for chuck you schumer who may be wondering whether congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez may give him a primary challenge in two years. your thoughts? >> i think he's absolutely worried about that and he should be. i think she's very ambitious. but the thing is, that no matter who wins down in georgia, whether it's the democratic candidates or the republicans or they split, these will be very, very narrow majority one way or the other. i don't think the democrats will be able to do much that is overly ambitious. there will be no green new deals. there will be no statehood for d.c. or puerto rico or so forth, some of the things that they were talking about during the campaign. that's not what the american people voted for. and i also think this covid situation is going to concentrate the political minds in washington for some time to come. that will be the focus and
certainly it will be one way for joe biden to put off the progressives by saying listen, we have to get this virus under control first before we torn the rest of your you agenda. mike: a big issue early in the new year will be confirming the new cabinet. 34eu6mitch mcconnell said they aren't all going to pass on a voice vote. they aren't all going to make it but i will put them on the floor. with hunter biden under investigation, picking an attorney general nominee is going to be tricky. >> i guarantee you i'm going to do what i said. the attorney general of the united states of america is not the president's lawyer. i will appoint someone who i expect to enforce the law as the law is written. not guided by me. mike: we're nearly out of time. kristin, which nominees do you anticipate could be in real trouble already. >> i think the most challenge ones will be mira camden who comes from a progressive think
tank, facing opposition because she's taken shots at republican senators. that's going to be the toughest nomination to get through. mike: i didn't do a great job of clock management. thank you, see you next sunday. up next, we revisit a few interesting people who were power players of the week in 2020. if these beautiful idaho potato recipes are just side dishes, then i'm not a real idaho potato farmer. genuine idaho potatoes not just a side dish anymore. always look for the grown in idaho seal. she sure looks ready to take on this ride! [male sportscaster] that's right megan, she's been riding at the top of her game lately. [female sportscaster] i love how she puts away the headphones. [male sportscaster] yeah, she's not about to be distracted. [female sportscaster] and look at that poise. she slows down at intersections making sure the path is clear. [male sportscaster] nice smooth braking! here's that bump, could be trouble. will she lean back and use that same smooth braking technique?
mike: most sundays at this time you'll find chris wallace here r, sharing inspiring or interesting stories of those he met in and around washington. 2020 brought some particularly memorable encounters. here are a few highlights from this year's power players of the week. chris: i was talking to dana perino yesterday. i said i'm talking to franco harris and he said frank o'harris. >> i get that all the time.
i tell people that's why the rooney's drafted me. chris: they thought you were irish. >> they thought i was irish. >> for me, i want to push my own limits for the human potential. my larger purpose is to inspire others. chris: collin is talking about his athletic abilities. his records are astonishing. becoming the first person to walk across antartica solo and rowing across the world's most treacherous waters. do you ever think in the middle of one of these challenges, ex depictions, what the hell am i doing? >> all the time. all the time. i definitely say like whose idea was this anyways. oh, o wait, it was my idea. >> this is my second home. chris: vanilla bean's second
home is her famed hat shop, a special part of washington for 40 years. why do you think hats are important for women? >> because it completes the outfit. chris: her creations are beautiful and entr intricate. no two are alike. what's a proper church hat. >> any hat, not too fancy. >> i've always wanted to just be a soldier and not a woman soldier. many times we find when you go to other museums, we're almost a foot dings notnote in story lin. chris: phyllis wilson is trying to change that, at the women in military service for america memorial at arlington national cemetery. opened in 1997, the museum is built into arlington's iconic ceremonial gate. wilson took us to the memorial's roof terrace where glass tablets
carry quotes about women service. >> let the generations know that the women in uniform also guaranteed their freedom. chris: and visitors get a view of this hallowed ground. >> there are 400,000 people that are buried here and many of those are women. we are here at the memorial to tell the story not only of all of those that have passed before us, but those that are still here to carry the torch forward. chris: ben folds is all about breaking down barriers. musical barriers between pop and classical. >> it's about unformalizing the symphony orchestra in a way that doesn't intimidate people. people go to the symphony and think how do i dress, i don't even know. so we make it informal in a way for them to feel comfortable to be there. chris: walk us through when you're sitting at a piano how you come up with an idea. >> i don't know. you know, like if i was going to say hello chris wallace.
♪ >> then i say. ♪ hello, chris wallace, how are you. >> then i would find it on the piano. chris: that's the chris wallace song. >> that's the chris wallace. >> here's the happy version. ♪ hello, chris wallace. ♪ how are you today? ♪ we make it minor. ♪ and if it becomes sad because he has more work to do. ♪ yo >> you know, you find it. chris: i love that. mike: can't wait so see what power players chris has in store for 2021. a program note. we'll see you next sunday with bret baier live from atlanta ahead of the critical georgia runoffs which will determine the balance of power in the united states senate. that's it for today. have a happy, healthy and very successful new year. and we'll see you next fox news sunday.
maria: happy christmas. merry christmas to all. welcome to sunda sunday morning futures. i'm maria bartiromo. 2020 will go down as a hard and sad year for many of us. but it will also be an awakening for many. as we got a clearer understanding of the most important threat to the freedom and liberty of america. the chinese communist party and its plans to become the number one super power in the world. overtaking the united states economically, technologically and militarily. the china virus of 2020 and the ccp's handling of it sparked new awareness as it impacted the most basic fabric of our