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i don't know if they're coming back yet. >> dana: i think we should work that out before. good show today on a tuesday. there is a lot going on on the hill and also in new york and across the country and california. "the faulkner focus" is up next. >> bill: here is harris. >> harris: fresh mixed messaging from the biden administration on the coronavirus as lockdown fatigue has reached some new heights. i'm harris faulkner. you are in "the faulkner focus". fauci is throwing cold water on optimism over vaccinations as american is warning the 500,000 plus people who died of covid-19. he is warning americans who have gotten doses should still avoid dining out or going to the movies. arguing that the science is not clear on how much protection the vaccine actually offers. the comments are just the
latest of many sparking confusion and criticism. >> this is not a major threat to the people of the united states and this is not something that the citizens of the united states right now should be worried about. as soon as it became clear that there was community spread, then it became clear we were in real trouble. that was probably towards the middle to end of january. right now in the united states people should not be walking around with masks. you can completely cover that ballpark if essentially universally when people go out and are in a situation where they might come into closer contact that they wear that mask. >> do you think americans will still be wearing masks in 2022? >> you know, i think it is possible that that's the case. >> harris: in just minutes "fox & friends" weekend co-host pete hegseth will weigh in on all of that back and forth. also in focus this hour
columnist miranda devine on new york governor andrew cuomo getting it from all sides politically in the growing nursing home covid-19 scandal. former trump official k.t. mcfarland on biden team's push to effectively abolish ice and jason rantz an how one city is using taxpayer dollars to help heroin addicts get high. let's get to kristin fiesher live at the white house with our top story. >> the latest confusion or mixed messaging stems from whether or not it is safe for vaccinated grandparents to visit their unvaccinated grandchildren. it is a question that's ultimately up to the cdc to answer. dr. fauci has been asked about it repeatedly in recent days and he acknowledges that while common sense tells you that it is probably okay he says we still need to wait for the hard data to come out.
>> if i'm fully vaccinated and my daughter comes in the house and she is vaccinated do we have to have the stringent public health measures than you would if it was a stranger that you were not vaccinated. common sense tells you you don't have to be as stringent in your public health measures. we want to get firm recommendations from the cdc which i believe will be coming soon. >> while we wait for those firm recommendations to come out here is what the cdc's website does already say. it defines someone as being fully vaccinated two weeks after they receive their second shot in a two-dose series or two weeks after they receive one shot in a single dose vaccine. even if you are fully vaccinated cdc says you still should be wearing masks and social distancing and even then dr. fauci says there are still many things that vaccinated people should not do.
>> there are things even if you are vaccinated that you won't be able to do in society. for example, indoor dining, theaters, places where people congregate. that's because of the safety of society. you yourself, what you can do when you are together with another person, we are looking at that and we'll try to find out very quickly what recommendations could be made about what people can do. >> as for when these guidelines on if it's safe for vaccinated grandparents to see unvaccinated kids will come out dr. fauci talked to his team about it every day as recently as last night. no firm answers as to when americans will get the official word from the cdc if it's okay, harris. >> harris: all right, kristin, thank you very much. i want to bring in pete hegseth "fox & friends" weekend co-host. the mixed messaging now is really falling on the shoulders of the biden administration.
this just isn't about one doctor, although that's not helping. >> that's exactly right. it isn't just about one doctor. this one doctor has been just about as wrong as he has been right in this entire thing. initially saying don't wear masks, saying don't worry about it. all of that was reversed in due time which you can understand why people have incredible skepticism about him and his unrelinquish control over the process. they want a zero risk threshold. that's not the world we live in and never was. when it comes to public health there is such a lack of information and knowledge and so much out there you default and defer to scientist. if the cdc says you are fully vaccinated after two weeks after your second dose if it's a two dose or do weeks after one dose.
you are vaccinated. make the choice that's best for you and your family. the most difficult part of this would be the undoing. once there is this much control, once there is this much fear and reliance on what does the science tell us even though we can't see it. taking the masks off. going back into society becomes complex. you can't just listen to scientists, you have to listen to common sense and give people freedom of choice back. that's what people are craving right now and why there is so much frustration with dr. fauci. >> harris: we don't know what their timeline is. we don't know. we have another holiday where people will get together. there is passover and easter coming up in march and april. that's our timeline as regular people. can we get together or not? and again, two weeks after that double dose vaccine, two weeks after that single dose like a johnson & johnson that eventually comes out if it does. we'll move on. dr. fauci is cautioning against dining out even being on that
list, pete, after you get vaccinated. naomi wolf very much a liberal warning that endless lockdowns have america on a very dangerous path. >> the terrible crisis that we're in that we have to recognize under the guise of a real medical pandemic, we're really moving into a coup situation, a police state situation. that's not a partisan thing. lockdowns have never been done before in free societies and really we're turning into a version of totalitarian state. >> once you relinquish freedoms for whatever rashal to the state it is very, very difficult to get them back. when you want to make a personal choice based on a free citizen but society tells you,
you are locked down or your schools are closed and your restaurant isn't open and don't worship but you can't sing because it's too much, when every inch you give you have to fight harder to get it back. she is correct. health and safety are the ways in which the left and climate change they use it to try to control people's lives and getting them to relinquish it is nearly impossible when the threshold is zero risk. what is your -- there is no zero risk. you have to be willing to let individuals make those choices for their loved ones and families. you'll continue to see pockets of america, florida, texas, individual communities start to resist this completely. vaccinated. take off masks and go about life. you can't wear a mask the rest of your life and certainly nobody wants to do that. >> harris: i wrote it down. i often do take notes when you talk and come up with the
bumper sticker things. the most difficult part will be the undoing. it is so true what you are talking about. okay. >> it's demoralizing. >> harris: you will be there along with other fox nation personalities and they will be streaming events and speeches including former president donald trump's speech. it will give his first since leaving the white house. he joined us here on fox news but now he will be speaking for the first time. he reportedly plans to declare himself as the presumptive 2024 gop presidential nominee. your reaction to that? >> all eyes will be on that speech for sure. it is great that fox nation is covering the entire event. any speech you want you can dial into at fox nation so do check it out. but yeah, this whole conference is about the future of the conservative movement of the republican party and the person who is going to set the course for that at least initially with the most substance is going to be the former
president donald trump. the fact he is speaking is hugely important. everything before that including my speech is just prelude. worth watching but it will be the president who sets the tone. a lot of -- there is a sense he will tip his hand so what he is thinking about in 22 and certainly 24 and you can get it on fox nation. that's always important. this year very much more so. >> harris: i love how you describe yourself as like a ballet prelude. i like to see the warm-ups. one of my favorite parts. i'll brag on you a little bit here. check out pete's new fox nation series untold patriots revealed. it is now available to all subscribers. don't miss it. give it up, gov. a fellow new york democrat is calling for his impeachment.
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office have received subpoenas? >> we have had requests from the department of justice since last year when president trump accused democratic states of the covid problem. >> harris: new york governor andrew cuomo dodging questions whether he has been subpoenaed in the nursing home scandal and continuing to blame former president trump. meanwhile, his fellow new york democrat kim is asking for his impeachment. now a documentary filmmaker is writing a top cuomo aide threatened him in a similar way years ago for doing his job as a journalist. joining me now miranda devine, "new york post" columnist and fox news contributor.
miranda, first of all let's get to the facts of what you know about this situation. a journalist. the list is now growing a bit with people who have some history that is quite negative with the governor. >> well yes, the worms are turning after years of being subjected to governor cuomo's bullying. people are speeng out. in the end bullies don't prosper. it takes one person of courage to stand up and call them out and the floodgates open. that person of courage was janice dean who has been a mighty warrior for the truth. because she refused to be intimidated by governor cuomo, she emboldened others and now we see he is being exposed. i think there is much more to come. he has had a reign of terror in albany for many years. all he ever had really was blaming president trump and
trying to compare himself favorably with the president even though the truth on the ground was that governor cuomo was bungling the coronavirus response right from the start when he lulled everyone into a false sense of security and said there was nothing to worry about and then implied that president trump was xenophobic when he stopped flights from china and right through to currently he has been bungling the vaccine roll-out. new york's vaccine roll-out is slower than anyone else's. >> harris: your publication the "new york post" as an op-ed that says every slander media flung at florida's desantis was true of cuomo. that's interesting. people were saying things about florida's governor which, by the way, economy is open, there are a lot of positive things that the experts are saying about how things have rolled out in florida. but actually the things that they were saying turned out to
be true about andrew cuomo. >> isn't it -- this is how biased the media is in an election year when everybody was combining to get rid of donald trump. new yorkers have voted with their feet. there are so many new yorkers down in florida because there is a life down there unlike new york, which is still half the businesses are dead, half the restaurants are dead. governor cuomo has really punished the city and you can feel it in the streets with the crime coming back. it is ironic because we have a joke about dumb and dumber in new york with who is worse, mayor deblasio or governor cuomo? it is very hard to tell which. they're both disastrous. part of the problem with new york's response to the pandemic
was the infighting, the quarreling between the two of them. they did not coordinate and talk. >> harris: well documented, too. >> now deblasio, the worm has turned. it is finally speaking out. you just wonder if things might have been better in new york if he had been a bit more courageous like janice dean from the beginning. >> harris: better and less deadly. just heartbreaking. miranda devine, thank you very much. good to see you today. iran is threatening to move forward with uranium enrichment. they'll do that after restricting infection. is the biden administration prepared to deal with a nuclear threat from iran? we're going to find out. and there is this. >> they will never abolish ice but they will cripple them with money and policies. that's what they are doing. >> harris: could a reported plan from a top biden official effectively abolish ice as we
know it? former trump deputy national security advisor k.t. mcfarland is here next. the duers? those who du more with less asthma. thanks to dupixent. the add-on treatment for specific types of moderate-to-severe asthma. dupixent isn't for sudden breathing problems. it can improve lung function for better breathing in as little as 2 weeks and help prevent severe asthma attacks. it's not a steroid but can help reduce or eliminate oral steroids. dupixent can cause serious allergic reactions including anaphylaxis. get help right away if you have rash, shortness of breath, chest pain, tingling or numbness in your limbs. >> harris: breaking news now on capitol hill. three former top security
officials testifying before the senate homeland and rules committee today as congress is examining if security failures that led to the complex's breach on january 6. senator roy blunt the ranking member of the rules committee right now is up and his turn to ask questions. let's watch together. >> for help in all likelihood to defend that perimeter than your force would be able to provide? >> we knew the additional support -- we could utilize the additional support, yes. >> so why did you believe you needed the approval of mr. irving and mr. stinger to request assistance to the national guard? >> that's always been the case. we only requested the national guard for very specific events, usually the inauguration and that requires the declaration of emergency from the capitol police board to utilize its resources. >> is there a statutory requirement for that? >> i can look into that and give you it to you as a follow up.
>> i know if you get the approval to expand the parameter and you don't have the assistance to do that it's obviously a problem. why didn't you contact the third member of the police board, the architect of the capitol mr. blanton? >> thank you for that question. my conduit to the capitol police board was through the u.s. senate sergeant and arms having communications with the department. especially law enforcement related issues. they're both law enforcement and mr. stinger is the chairperson of the capitol police board. outside the monthly capitol police board meeting that we would have unless it was an issue specific to the architect regarding the building structure, something like that, my conduit was regularly the house and senate sergeant-at-arms. >> why do you think the architect of the capitol is on the police board? >> in one of the voting members in providing oversight. >> but not enough oversight you
thought you needed to involve him in the conversation. >> my usual conduit was going through the house and senate sergeant-at-arms. that's two people i have to go to. going to three. in the future if that's something that will be -- that will implement i'll implement it. i was following my usual course of action. >> so mr. irving and mr. stinger both. let's start with mr. irving. why was the request for national guard assistance not approved at the same time you approved the expansion of the perimeter? mr. irving? i think you are muted. now you are definitely muted. now you should be fine. go ahead. >> thank you. senator, i did not take the call from chief sund on the 4th as a request. chief sund called me to tell me
that he had received an offer from the national guard to provide us 125 unarmed troops to work traffic control in the perimeter of the capitol. shortly after that discussion i said let's include sergeant-at-arms stinger as chair of the board and another senior official with quite a bit of experience. the three of us talked it through and during that call the number one question on the table was did the intelligence support it. did the intelligence support that additional offer for those 125 troops? >> did you discuss this with anybody except sergeant-at-arms stanger and chief sund? >> no, just this one phone call and during that call we all agreed that the intelligence
did not support the troops and collectively decided to let it go. michael stanger then said how about we put them on stand by just in case? that's what we ended up doing. but from what i remember everyone was very satisfied that we had a robust plan, security plan and it was consistent with the intelligence that we had at the time. >> mr. stanger, why did you think that the troops were on stand by? they must have been standing way awith a from where we needed them if it took hours to be here. what did it mean they would be on stand by? >> when i spoke to the chief and he brought up to me the attempt to get the national guard and apparently wasn't going forward, i suggested to him that he reach out.
we knew the national guard commander from previous work in the metropolitan police department. i suggested he reach out to the national guard commander for a couple of reasons. one of them was i had read in the paper or heard on the news that the national guard in d.c. was rather reticent to engage because of the issues that had arisen in the white house demonstrations of a month ago and that we need to make sure that the national guard was engaged in this and that they would be willing to -- >> do you think you did make sure they were engaged and would be willing? i want to go to one more question here. did you think they were engaged and would be willing if called on? >> yeah, that's what i think i
asked the chief to do coming from the general. >> mr. irving you said in your testimony that when asked fosh national guard assistance you approved it. mr. sund stated that he asked for the national guard assistance at 1:09 and you approved -- it was approved at 2:10. why would it take an hour to approve national guard assistance on your part in that moment of crisis? mr. irving. >> senator, from my recollection, i did not receive a request for approval for national guard until shortly after 2:00 p.m. when i was in michael stanger's office. >> mr. sund, do you know when you asked for national guard assistance? was it 1:09 or 2:00 p.m.? >> it was 1:09. >> who did you ask for assistance? >> mr. irving was in the company of mr. stranger at the time as well. >> why would you not remember
that, mr. irving? >> senator, i have no recollection of a conversation with chief sund at that time. i was on the floor during the electoral college session. and my conversation with chief sund in that time frame was shortly before 1:30 when i recall he was describing conditions outside as deteriorating. he may in fact be submitting a request and i carried that forward and that was as much as i can tell you. i have no phone record of a call from chief sund. the first record i have -- >> did you discuss that request at 1:09 or whatever you got it with anybody else or did you and mr. stranger make your decision then? >> i did not good a get at 1:09 that i remember. the first conversation i had with chief sund was at 1:28,
1:30 and in that conversation he indicated that conditions were deteriorating. he might be looking for national guard approval and approval of our mutual aid agreements with local law enforcement. and i went to mike stanger's office awaiting an update. >> this is the time, mr. irving. i'm sure my colleagues will want to follow up on this because i'm out of time. this is a time when the difference in 1:30 and 2:10 makes a big difference. one of the things i'm wondering. we don't have time for you to answer this but tell you what i'm thinking here is in a moment like this, if your focus is chiefly on the safety of house members. i would certainly understand that, and mr. stanger's is chiefly on the safety of senate members, maybe that's a problem here where the board really can't function as a board because you have such diverse
areas of immediate responsibility. but whatever happened here doesn't seem to me to be in agreement with the various time frames and i'm out of time, mr. chairman. >> thank you, senator blunt. i wanted senator peters and i will trade off chairing with the votes and we have a set order. >> harris: we'll continue to watch this off air for you on "the faulkner focus". we wanted to dip in there. did you hear some of senate roy blunt's digging for the facts there? the ranking member of the rules committee, republican just wanting to get to why it took so long for the now resigned u.s. capitol police chief steven sund who said he put in a request for national guard at 1:09, why it took so long for the sergeant of arms irving to ask for that. he is talking about time gaps.
i want to bring in k.t. mcfarland. i don't want to make this about impeachment. my question is, you know, on the hill they spent a loot of time wondering whether or not president trump could have done some different things. now we start to see the chain of command per the actual duty of protecting that building and roy blunt is finding some stuff out that we should pay attention to. >> yeah. to me what this shows is look, the people who air the testimony good to get it on the record. nobody will admit fault. what we do need a september 11th style commission to look into it. not a partisan nancy pelosi let's whack donald trump over impeachment but a different kind of study that's bipartisan and looks at a couple of things. why did this happen? was there an intelligence failure? did we not see this coming? as you just pointed out in the hearing right now, what was the timeline?
was it is procedural problem that the national guard wasn't talking to the capitol police and washington, d.c. police? we need a non-bipartisan study the find out what went wrong, why did it happen and what steps do we take to change it? >> harris: good to get your response to some breaking news this hour. i want to get to this. iran supreme's leader is threatening to boost uranium production. after striking the deal to limit inspections of its nuclear facility. they won't allow inspections. current members of the biden team including one-time obama secretary of state john kerry worked with iran in 2019 to undermine the trump administration's iran policy. former secretary of state mike pompeo says they knew this was happening.
>> it's unamerican, very troubling. not the right thing to do. they lost an election and they should have gotten off the stage. they chose not do that but tried to undermine what the american people put forward as america's -- it is sad that mr. kerry is trying to undermine what president trump and our team were trying to do. >> harris: unable to get off the stage. k.t. >> well, i think he is absolutely right. the irony of this harris what the biden people, now the current biden administration, used to be the obama administration. that they were doing throughout the trump administrations they were trying to undermine the president and entire policy and doing it from without and like john kerry going to the iranians saying don't do a deal with the trump administration, we'll be back in soon and have a different kind of deal. the iranians said we'll wait it out and suffer for a couple
more years. we think we'll get kerry back and have a new deal. the iran nuclear deal was a fraud. it was a sold. they said it would stop iran's nuclear program. it never did anything of the sort. it put the pause button on the nuclear program. the clock has been ticking since then and iran now if the u.s. and iran rejoins the flawed deal they'll have nuclear weapons within the decade and a nuclear arms race in the middle east. that's not playing fair. not only unamerican it is unsafe. >> harris: that is the leverage i was trying to scoot in there. you got right to it. thank you for being on the program today. >> thanks, harris. >> harris: house democrats are pushing ahead with joe biden's covid relief bill as republicans say it is packed with billions of wasteful non-covid spending. the power panel is next.
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>> this bill is too expensive. it is supposed to be a covid bill. only 9% of it goes to covid. what they are doing is telling you the swamp is back. republicans have better ideas. our focus is put americans back to work, back to school, and back to health. they are putting money in here but schools are still shut down. biden has a plan to open the border but not open our schools? >> harris: house minority leader kevin mccarthy one of many republicans shredding president biden's covid relief bill over all the non-covid items. we'll scroll this for you. such as raising the federal minimum wage to $15 per hour. hundreds of millions of dollars for arts, museums and libraries.
$50 million for family planning fund. $112 million for san francisco bay area rapid transit program. power panel comes in nou. richard fowler, rachel campos-duffy are fox news contributors. it looks to me and welcome to you both, rachel. we must be getting close to the finish line. it doesn't feel bipartisan. i don't care about that anymore like he promised. >> you left out racial justice farming programs and racial justice environmental programs and $40 million to universities. it is insane. the democrats remind me of when -- they're coming to power at the tail end of a pandemic and remind me of freshman giving a freshman a credit card and how reckless they are. they have no care for the fact this bill will come due. we remove kids from school, robbed them of their childhood for one year and their education and now when they come into adulthood we'll
saddle them with generational debt, with an adulthood full of high taxes. it is obscene. >> harris: richard, where did the bipartisan push go? that wasn't just a push, it was a promise from joe biden. >> listen, i think the president of the united states is committed to being bipartisan. his first meeting on this package was with senate republicans. he wants to work across the aisle. this is a package that is popular with republicans at home. 71% of republicans say they agree with joe biden's stimulus package. here is why. >> harris: they agree with the covid portion of it. come on. >> it's only 9% of it. >> they know when they went out on their porchs an banged their pots and pans to get essential workers they know those folks need more money in their pockets to meet ends met. increased minimum wage would do. they understand that --
>> harris: richard, it sounds like when you talk about the polling you are talking about it sounds like people are willing to do what they need to do to get what they need at that moment. that isn't the same as making the best deal for the american people. it is backing them into a corner. rachel, last word. >> i am really disappointed, richard. when you have a covid bill only 9% covid even you should know that's wrong. it is wrong to our children. if you have children and we're going to pass this on to them. this is not what the american people want. yeah, they'll take the whole package begrudgingly for getting covid relief. we can do better than that and our leaders ought to. this is a payback to all democrat donors and special interest groups and you know that. >> i don't. look, if you want to talk about the deficit. you weren't talking about it four years ago. >> we weren't talking about $2 trillion. >> harris: tax dollars as work.
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this is the senate homeland security and rules committee hearing today to find out and examine the security failures that led to the complex breach on january 6. let's watch together breaking news. >> trace not typically -- many important pro police chair or black and blue flags. although the crowd represented a broad cross section of americans mostly working class, some people stood out. very few didn't share the friendly demeanor of the majority. some didn't fit in. he describes four different types of people. plain clothes militants. agents, fake trump protestors and then disciplined unformed column of attackers. these are the people that probably planned this. he goes on the d.c. metropolitan police were they detached selves standing at curbs on street crossing and
occasional greetings to marchers. when we entered the capitol grounds i noticed no police at all. several marchers expressed surprise. it seemed like a courtesy gesture from congress. that appearance of low threat level made no sense. yet no capitol police appeared anywhere from what we could see. i'm taking these excerpts in order. but there is a lot more to this piece. what looked like tens or hundreds of thousands of people surged down the avenues as far as one could see. almost everyone seemed talkative and happy. no police could be seen on the platform for now. no police could be seen anywhere. people kept surging in from constitutional avenue and the plaza filled up. everyone squeezed closer and closer together with most in high spirits. some trouble began in the front near the base of the inaugural platform itself. we couldn't see what has happening. then something happened at the
front of the crowd. it seemed like a scuffle. from 40 feet back i couldn't see. people started chanting usa and other slogans. for a few seconds i looked like police in a tussle with marchers up front. this organized group i would call the plain clothes militants that fit in with maga people. suddenly energy surged from the front of the crowd as the anti-riot police above the inaugural platform tensed up. one fired a tear gas canister not at the militants in the front line but into the crowd itself. then another. the tear gas changed the crowd's demeanor. there was an air of disbelief as people realized the police were firing on them. what are you doing? we support you, someone yelled. all of a sudden pro-police people felt police were attacking them and didn't know why. more tear gas. the canisters struck a girl in the face drawing blood.
the pro-police crowd went from disbelief and confusion to anger. i'll stop there. the last five pages is titled proper voc tours turn unsuspecting marchers in an invading mob. everybody in the committee read this account and ask it be entered into the record. chief sund i want to ask you, is house managers made a big deal that this was predictable, it was foreseeable, which i don't believe. do you believe that what happened the breach of the capitol, did you believe that's foreseeable and prediktable? >> no i don't. if you look at other partner agencies acting chief conte made the statement a breach of the capitol was not something anybody anticipated or did our -- >> is part of that what you experience he in the past with this vast majority of trump
supporters is pro-law enforcement and the last thing they would do is violate the law? >> information i received from some of my officers they were trying to prevent people from coming into the building and people were saying we're police let us through and still wanting to violate the law to get inside the building. >> i want to close with the two former sergeant of arms. i knew these committees would start an investigation and waited a couple weeks. didn't see a letter go out so i wrote my own on the 21st and i just have a question for both former sergeant of arms. did you get my letter, my oversight letter with my questions? >> i did not. i did not receive your letter. i left town right after i resigned but i certainly look forward to working with you and your staff to answer your questions. >> if you would give us an address. we sent it to the acting
sergeant-at-arms. they won't even let us know whether they passed that letter along to you. apparently they didn't. mr. stranger, did you receive my letter? >> i don't recall it, senator. it might have but i don't recall. >> chief sund do you regret resigning? >> yes, i do, sir, i certainly regret resigning. i love this agency, i love the women and men in this agent and i regret the day i left. >> mr. irving and mr. stanger i wish you would first of all look for my letter and i would like an answer to that as quickly as possible. thank you. >> thank you, senator johnson. we're waiting for senator warner and any other member. i see senator rosen, would you like to go ahead? you are the first member on, senator rosen. >> thank you very much senator klobuchar. thank you, everyone for being here today. >> harris: we'll pull away from here. you just heard from a pretty fiery ron johnson, senator from
wisconsin. a lot of just frustration today getting questions answered, republicans really pushing and you are seeing two of those three, the two house and senate sergeant-at-arms saying oh, i didn't get the letter. i was traveling and doing this. republicans pushing for answers now and you just heard republican senator ron johnson ask the u.s. capitol police chief stephen sund do you regret resigning? he asked for help at 1:09 and the sergeants at arms didn't give it to him until 2:20 on the hill the day of the riots. interesting to hear the facts as they were read by senator johnson. a lot more to come no doubt. we'll continue to watch it for you. we wanted to dip in at those points so you can hear some of the things you haven't heard before. a seattle-backed homeless shelter using tax dollars to help addicts get high and to teach them lower-risk methods of injecting drugs.
under the program the shelter is handing out heroin pipes and posting flyers with tips on using drugs without painful needles. the city's human services department says the program reflects the very needs of those experiencing homelessness in seattle. jason rantz is a seattle radio host who often joins us on "the faulkner focus". you've been reporting on what has been going on in the city for quite some time. i'm curious, how does this help make the streets safer in seattle? how does it help those who are homeless? >> the answer to both of those questions is it does not. it clearly is safer, i suppose, than shooting up. that part is true. they call it a harm reduction model. but the problem is it's not actually getting people off their addiction, it is only enabling it. one of the flyers that went up allows someone to use a needleless syringe to rectally inspect themselves with a mix
of water and meth or cocaine, the drug of choice, which is safer than a needle but it also provides a much more intense and longer-lasting high. if your goal is to get them off of that drug that is not the way to do it. at the same time they are still addicted. in this case these are people chronically homeless. a lot of them are turning to crime on the streets of seattle. lots of car break and home break-ins and stealing property and selling it and using the cash to buy the product they are addicted to and drug dealers are coming into the neighborhoods and flooding our streets with drugs. all around this isn't helping the addict and certainly not helping the quality of life of seattle. >> harris: you know, your city has been marked over the last few months really since last may, the death of george floyd, many cities across america, by protesting and in some cases
violent rioting. i'm rather curious if anybody is protesting to say what would be better ideas and protesting against this if it makes the streets less safe? >> no. usually the protests happen, the anger happens when someone actually says maybe we should do things a little bit differently. this is a city that has been run by far left progressives for a very long time and every single problem that they call out has gotten worse under their tenure. so god forbid someone step up and say maybe we shouldn't be handing out city-funded heroin pipes to folks, maybe we should be enforcing the law. that's not what happens in seattle. they complain when someone else steps up. >> harris: it makes me want to ask are they focusing on everybody or one certain group of people? libertarians say the freedom to do the drugs and to keep these drug addicts healthier on the streets makes things better for everybody. i'm not hearing that in the
argument, though. i would be curious to know what average people in seattle think, too. we'll move to this but stay in seattle. a council member there, a big backer of defunding the police is defending her actions after a report on rising violent crime in the city. what i was alluding to. she argues in seattle there is a pattern to some media coverage of crime. when tragically it happens some reporting suggests an untrue narrative that the city council tied the police's hands or unconcerned about crime. this is inaccurate and misleading. the claim that council is not showing concern is untrue. jason, what's the truth? >> i would love to see her show that. we've had agitators burn parts of the city to the ground. destroy buildings and murder people and you don't hear a peep out of this council. this woman is responsible for
forwarding a poverty defense if it were to pass would legalize most misdemeanor cripples in the city of seattle if you say you are experiencing mental anguish or homeless. we are a victim in the city of seattle of her policies. she has defunded the police. as a result of this posture that has been so dramatically anti-police, they don't have to fire anybody. the officers are leaving. we saw a historic number of officers leave the seattle police department and at the same time what's been happening? a 26-year high homicide rate. overdoses going through the roof. we have all of these problems thanks to the culture of lawlessness that this council has created. >> > >> harris: wow, seattle such a beautiful city. your chief left, one of the best in the country. she says, i'm out.
they cut her pay through the defund. wow. jason, we'll have you on another day. thanks for breaking it down for us. >> thank you. >> harris: my pleasure to be with you on weekdays at 11:00 a.m. eastern and at noon. and it is noon. "outnumbered" starts now. on a new round of covid contradictions and confusion. we begin the news. dr. anthony fauci standing accused of sending mixed messaging on vaccines, masks. also some criticism for his refusal to give a concrete answer about when fully vaccinated seniors will be able to safety visit their grandchildren. and all of this comes after he goes after the u.s. for its handling of the pandemic. >> you look back historically, we've done worse than most any other country. we're a