tv Late Night With Seth Meyers NBC December 16, 2017 12:37am-1:38am PST
[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight -- dax shepard. from "darkest hour," actress lily james. author max brooks. featuring the 8g band with brooks wackerman. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers. >> seth: good evening, i'm seth meyers. this is "late night." how is everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ] that's great to hear. in that case, let's get to the news. russian president vladimir putin announced today that he will run for another six year term and he did it using his official twitter account. [ laughter ]
president trump, today, instructed the state department to develop a plan to relocate the us embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. and melania has developed a plan to relocate herself from d.c. back to new york. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] towards the end of the speech on israel today, president trump began to slur his words leading some to speculate that he make have been wearing dentures. but the white house insists that it's nothing unusual and that most of his words are slurs. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] here, take a look. >> i asked the leaders of the region, political and religious. israeli and palestinian. jewish and christian and muslim to join us in the nobel quest for lasting peace. thank you. god bless you.
god bless israel. god bless the palestinians and god bless the united states. thank you very much. [ laughter and applause ] >> seth: i can't believe both our first and our last president had fake teeth. [ laughter ] or as trump calls dentures, fake chews. [ laughter ] that's the best joke you're ever going to hear and you didn't appreciate it. [ cheers and applause ] "fake chews." [ laughter ] according to reports, the rnc has donated $170,000 to the alabama republican party to support controversial senate candidate roy moore. and it looks like, he's already spent it. [ audience ohs ] [ applause ]
32 democratic senators have now called on senator al franken to step aside after another woman accused him of sexual misconduct. also stepping aside, women when they see al franken coming. [ laughter ] "time" magazine has named the silence breakers of the "me to"" sexual harassment activism movement as their 2017 person of the year. so they didn't choose you but you definitely got mentioned. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] a town in maine hosted a parade over the weekend in honor of the inventor of ear muffs. unfortunately, he had no idea. [ laughter ] you know it's nice with all the negative news out there that when there's a story about ear muffs, you're pretty happy. [ light laughter ] according to new research, it can take up to four weeks for a woman's skin to recover from a
night of bing drinking. just ask hannah, a freshman at umass. [ laughter ] "i went way too hard last night." today was national microwave oven day. "i can't wait to nuke somethin"" said one man. [ laughter ] and finally, this is very exciting. thanks to new technology we have developed here at "late night" we now have the ability to record and then listen to the inner voice that is in donald trump's head. so here for the third time this week is the tiny voice in the back of donald trump's head. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> hey, donald, it's me. the tiny voice in the back of your head. and now it's time to shake hands with a bunch of people who know you can't do this job. oh, it's true. you're terrible at this job and everyone knows it.
look at this guy, he's shaking your hands but he thinks you're a bad president. oh, man, this guy too. he's saying, "good job." but inside his head he's saying "donald trump is a grade a moron." [ laughter ] all these people are thinking that. oh, here's an old lady. you know what she's thinking? "oh, you went bankrupt a bunch of times you should not have this job. go on your way." she's saying "go on your way. we don't need you here. bye. you're pathetic, sad." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: we have an excellent show for you tonight. he's starring in the new netflix film, "el camino christmas," dax shepard is back on the show. [ cheers and applause ] from acclaimed drama "darkest hour," lily james is joining us tonight. [ cheers and applause ] and his latest novel "minecraft, the island" is out now, max brooks is here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] so you're hear on a good one. but before we get to that, president trump is now all in on backing the accused sexual predator running for senate in
alabama and offering sympathy for a former top aide who lied to the fbi. making clear once again what trump really means when he says he's "tough on crime." for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: during the campaign, trump repeatedly cast himself as the candidate who would be "tough on crime," using one nixonian phrase in particular. >> we need law and order in our country. i am the law and order candidate. i will restore law and order. law and order. law and order. we have to bring back law and order. >> seth: that would have been a great campaign promise if he meant the tv show. "we're gonna bring back 'law and order' and also look for all-new episodes of 'freaks and geeks."" [ laughter ] although, in a way, trump was right. 10 months into his presidency, and his administration is already being investigated by sam waterston. [ laughter ]
trump of course has routinely lied about rising crime levels and promised that only he could restore law and order. but not only has he lied about the crime stats, he's also been very specific about who he claims is responsible for those "crimes." >> they want to have illegal immigrants pouring into our country, bringing with them crime. tremendous amounts of crime. we don't want to have that. we want to have a great, beautiful, crime free country. when i talk immigration and when i talk about illegal immigration and all the problems with crime. illegal immigration also brings with it massive crime. we want strong borders. we don't want drugs coming in. we don't want crime coming in. end illegal immigration. stop the massive inflow of refugees. reduce surging crime. so when i said we have to have a moratorium, we have to have a ban until we find out what's going on. i took a tremendous amount of heat. and now everyone's sort of saying, "trump is right."
>> seth: no one is saying "trump is right." [ laughter ] the only time anyone's ever said -- [ cheers and applause ] the only time anyone's ever said "trump is right" is on the golf course. [ light laughter ] "where did the president's ball go?" "oh, trump is right -- over in the trees. you can't see him because his hair blends in with the rough." [ laughter ] of course, it didn't seem to matter to trump that immigrants actually commit fewer crimes than native-born americans, or that refugees are carefully vetted. nor did it matter to trump that he was wrong when he retweeted a racist infographic falsely claiming that 81% of whites are killed by african- americans, a stat that was completely false. and rather than admit that it was wrong, trump adamantly defended himself. >> you tweeted out that whites killed by blacks, these are statistics you picked up from somewhere, at a rate of 81% and that's totally wrong. whites killed by black is 15%, yet you tweeted it's 81%. now --
>> bill i didn't tweet, i re-tweeted somebody that was supposedly an expert and it was also a radio show. >> yeah, but why do you want to be in that zone? >> hey bill, bill, am i gonna check every statistic? i've got millions and millions of people. >> you got to, you're a presidential contender, you've got to check it. >> i've got millions of people. you know what? fine. but this came out of radio shows and everything else. >> oh come on, radio shows? >> all it was is a re-tweet. excuse me, all it was is a re-tweet, it wasn't from me, and it did, it came out from a radio show and other places. >> wouldn't it be better -- >> seth: you know you're in a bad place when bill o'reilly is telling you you have to do better. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] that's like steve bannon telling you to go clean yourself up. [ laughter ] so trump has made clear repeatedly who he's really talking about when he talks about crime. which might explain why, when his former national security adviser michael flynn actually pleaded guilty to a very serious crime, lying to the fbi. trump, the law and order candidate, suddenly found a soft
spot in his heart for criminals, while falsely claiming that hillary had also lied to the fbi. >> well i feel badly for general flynn, i feel very badly. he's led a -- very strong life and i feel very badly, john. i will say this, hillary clinton lied many times to the fbi, and nothing happened to her. flynn lied, and they destroyed his life. >> seth: hillary did not lie to the fbi. she was interviewed by the fbi, and they found no wrongdoing. that's like getting caught robbing a bank and telling the cops, "what about all those people taking money from the atm?" [ light laughter ] and that -- [ applause ] that came after an unhinged twitter rant from trump, the guy who based his entire campaign on law and order, defending a confessed criminal and attacking the fbi for its investigation of a potential conspiracy to undermine an election. first trump tweeted, "so general flynn lies to the fbi and his life is destroyed, while crooked hillary clinton, on that now famous fbi holiday interrogation with no swearing in and no recording, lies many times and nothing happens to her.
rigged system, or just a double standard?" man, the new 280 character limit on twitter is turning trump into a beat poet. [ laughter ] "so she lies many times and nothing happens to her? rigged system? [ drumming ] or just a double standard? [ cheers and applause ] man." trump then attacked the fbi more directly after a report that one of the agents involved in the clinton investigation had sent some anti-trump text messages. trump tweeted, "tainted. no, very dishonest? fbi agent's role in clinton probe under review." what's with the parenthetical? [ light laughter ] he's starting to disagree with himself in his own tweets. he sounds like a tortured writer dictating a letter to an assistant. "tainted? no. very dishonest reporting from lying media. scratch that, fake news. let me see that. oh, this is good. send this one out." [ laughter and applause ]
so trump says he's tough on crime when he thinks those crimes have been committed by immigrants, refugees, african-americans, or his political opponents, but not when they've been committed by the people closest to him, like flynn or paul manafort or sheriff joe arpaio. or alabama senate candidate roy moore, who has been accused by at least nine women of sexual harassment and assault, including several who were underage at the time. after the news broke about moore, it didn't take long for trump to give him the benefit of the doubt. >> he totally denies it. he says it didn't happen. and you know, you have to listen to him also. you're talking about -- he said 40 years ago this did not happen. and i do have to say, 40 years is a long time. he has run eight races and this has never come up. so 40 years is a long time. the women are trump voters. most of them are trump voters. all you can do is you have to do what you have to do. >> seth: all you can do is you have to do what you have to do? sounds like a fortune cookie written by someone who was completely out of ideas.
"uh, all you can do is you have to do what you have to do. lottery numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5?" [ laughter ] and after trump's endorsement of moore, republicans quickly began to fall in line. just weeks ago the republican national committee cut ties with moore, but after trump's endorsement the rnc is getting back into the alabama senate race and will transfer funds to the alabama republican party. and senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, who just weeks ago said he believed the women and called on moore to step aside, softened his position so much, he couldn't even bring himself to say moore's name. >> if he wins will you insist on referring his case to the senate ethics committee? >> well i think we're going to let the people of alabama decide a week from tuesday who they want to send to the senate and then we'll address the matter appropriately. >> do you believe that judge moore should be in the senate? >> i'm gonna let the people of alabama make the call. >> but you are prepared to take action if he is indeed elected?
>> the ethics committee will have to consider the matters that have been litigated in the campaign should that particular candidate win. >> seth: that particular candidate? did you forget his name? because here's a phrase to help you remember it. "he likes to wear cordu-roy, and he can't go to the mall any moore." [ laughter and applause ] of course, as if it needs to be said again, the allegations against moore are credible, corroborated by dozens of sources and supporting evidence. and yet, presented with this evidence, all the moore campaign can do is call the accusers liars, as a spokeswoman for the moore campaign did on cnn on tuesday, during a truly mind-bending interview in which she also tried to point out that there are still women in alabama who have not accused moore of sexual assault. [ light laughter ] >> one of the jobs of journalists is to not just take -- an academy award performance at face value. you need to dig into the facts, and one of the facts in the case. >> 30 people corroborated her story who knew roy moore between 1977 and 1992. >> actually, actually they did not -- >> they did, according to the recordings of "the post."
>> poppy, we need to make it clear that there's a group of non-accusers, that have not accused the judge of any sexual misconduct or anything illegal. >> seth: that's literally their best argument. [ laughter ] i can't wait to see their ads. "did you know there are over two and half million women in alabama, and just under two and a half million have never been sexually assaulted by roy moore." [ cheers and applause ] but the most revealing comments trump has made about this race are about moore's opponent, doug jones, a lifelong prosecutor who convicted the kkk members responsible for the birmingham church bombing that killed four little girls. trump has repeatedly claimed that alabamians should vote for moore, rather than jones, because of their positions on crime. >> jones, i've looked at his record. it's terrible on crime. i can tell you for a fact we do not need somebody that's going to be bad on crime. but i can tell you, you don't need somebody who is soft on crime like jones. we don't want to have a liberal democrat in alabama, believe me.
we want strong borders, we want stopping crime. >> seth: "we want stopping crime?" it's official, we elected sheriff tarzan. [ laughter ] but think about that, trump says he wants to stop crime, but he's backing an accused child molester over a prosecutor who convicted the kkk. which tells you that when he uses the word crime, that's not what he really means. he doesn't want to stop crime, he wants to stop immigrants, refugees, or his political opponents. for years we've heard republicans call themselves the party of law and order, and now trump has revealed what they really mean. trump talks tough when it comes to mexicans, muslims, african-americans, and women. but if you're a white man who happens to be close to trump or support his agenda, the strongest thing he can say is this. >> all you can do is you have to do what you have to do. >> seth: this has been "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] we'll be right back with dax shepard everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: for more of seth's "closer looks" be sure to subscribe to "late night" on
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody. give it up to the 8g band, right over there. [ cheers and applause ] also back on drums tonight, he's been a member of tenacious d, bad religion. and now with multi-platinum rock band avenged sevenfold, who were just honored with their first ever grammy nomination for "the stage." be sure to check out their u.s. tour, which kicks off in january. brooks wackerman, everybody -- thank you so much for being
here. [ cheers and applause ] >> thank you. >> seth: our first guest is a talented and very funny actor, you know from the nbc series "parenthood" and films such as "chips" and "baby mama." he stars in the upcoming movie "el camino christmas," which begins streaming on netflix this friday. let's take a look. >> you said that you thought that maybe this kid you arrested last night that he could be the gunman? >> yes, yes. i mean i'm fairly certain. although, i -- i do believe, i saw two white males, 20s, duck behind the counter. and i mean this one -- this is crazy. but i thought i saw a little kid. >> jesus, billy. are you sure? >> i can't be positively positive for sure. but i'll tell you this, there's definitely four or five folks in there maybe. [ laughter ] >> seth: please welcome back to the show dax shepard, everyone! [ cheers and applause ] ♪
♪ >> seth: hi, buddy. >> wackerman! >> seth: wackerman. >> very convenient last name, wackerman, for a drummer? >> yeah, my birth name. >> i don't know. >> seth: that's true. right. >> birth name. birth name. >> birth name. yeah. >> you were destined to play those drums. >> right? >> and you are playing the hell out of them. >> thank you. >> seth: i love that you made that connection. i've had him here all week. >> and you didn't do that? >> no, i didn't think, like, "wow, wackerman is a great drum name." >> and shepard, that doesn't leap out at you as? [ laughter ] they all know. you don't know? they all get it. it's so obvious. >> seth: so you -- i want to say you play a police officer in this film. >> yeah. >> seth: based on the clip, you do not possess great intelligence. [ laughter ] >> no. i -- my niche is an actor is to play very stupid people. >> seth: yeah. >> yeah. i'll take it. >> seth: does this -- now there are two kinds of stupid, there's stupid with awareness that they're stupid and then stupid without.
is this -- >> i specialize in without. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah, that's too stupid to even know they're stupid. >> yeah, like you mentioned "baby mama." >> seth: yeah. >> so the difference between this character and "baby mama" is i have a mustache in this. >> seth: that's it. [ laughter ] >> yeah and a different shirt. like i wore a lot of flannel shirts in "baby mama" and here i'm obviously in some kind of municipality. i don't know what that is but, yeah. >> seth: you -- one of your -- >> are you impressed with that mustache? >> seth: it is a good mustache. is it your own? >> it is my own. >> seth: yeah. >> and i got to say, i was nervous while growing it that it would be less than powerful. and then when i saw the movie for the first time a couple weeks ago -- >> seth: it's great. >> it's a very powerful mustache. [ laughter ] >> seth: is that -- in your illustrious career, is that the first time you've grown your own mustache for a role? >> it is. >> seth: wow. >> and i very much wanted -- i've been looking forward, hoping, certain dreams have gone away. >> seth: yeah. >> i'm not going to get hired to play a super hero. >> seth: you think that window is closed? >> i had always secretly thought, "oh god, i hope i get hired to play a super hero. i can do steroids." >> seth: yeah. >> you know?
[ laughter ] >> seth: and -- >> i'd like to try it as a man. >> seth: yeah. >> but have an excuse. i'm a father of two. i can't just do steroids for fun. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> but for several million dollars. >> seth: yeah, you would do steroids. >> i can do it. yeah, yeah. >> seth: so -- >> or like a coke addict. [ laughter ] >> seth: you want to play a coke addict? >> yeah, i mean, i've been sober for 13 years. but i feel like if scorsese calls and says, "i got this great role for you. you just got to huff a lot cocaine." >> seth: yeah. >> i'd have to do it. [ laughter ] >> seth: i bet they use prop cocaine. i feel like -- >> not scorsese. >> seth: that's true. [ laughter ] >> no, come on. maybe spielberg but not scorsese -- >> seth: but so then you got to do the mustache. i -- did you have enough time? like when you got offered the part to when you started shooting, were you worried it was too small a window? >> i was. in fact, it's a little, how do we say, inconsistent because it was growing as we were filming. >> seth: ah. >> so there are some scenes where it's a proper womb broom. [ laughter ] and then there are others where it's more just like a pre-teen. >> seth: got it.
>> right. but funny enough, the whole reason i'm in the movie is that vincent d'onofrio who's also in the movie, much better actor than me. >> seth: fantastic actor. i would say even. but he's a fantastic actor. >> yeah, one of the best. >> seth: yes. >> one of the greats. gets to play smart people all the time -- they always hire him for that. he text me, "hey, we're starting a movie in two weeks," because he read the script. he said, "this guy's dumb, got to get dax." [ audience ohs ] >> seth: yeah. >> he told the director. he said, "yeah, he's as dumb as it gets." [ laughter ] and it was, you know, so it just happened. like d'onofrio actually cast me in this movie. >> seth: that's great. >> and then he said, "i'm growing a mustache for it." and i said, "well then i'm going to too." and just to kind of mess with him and, you know, here we have it. >> seth: that's fantastic. >> yeah. the movie's called "mustache christmas" -- [ laughter ] please check it out december 8th on netflix. >> seth: and its -- you play two police officers but your mustaches solve the crime. you're just like there. >> that's right. that's right. that's right. >> seth: i want to talk -- >> like the tea leaves. i put dust in them. and then i start connecting the dots.
genius mustache -- >> seth: at one point there's yarn. your mustache has yarn connecting different -- >> connected to other parts. >> seth: yeah. >> and someone goes, "oh, my gosh. that's a map of el camino." >> seth: yeah. >> yeah. >> seth: and that's how you solve it. >> that's right. >> seth: well, we've given away the film now. >> yeah. you know, you can skip it. but you are having -- you're having another kid? >> seth: i've having another kid. you have got two now. >> i do have two. >> seth: i got my second on the way. what is -- how would you describe the difference between one and two? >> well as you know because you're already a parent, all these clichés you hear, they are painfully true. >> seth: yeah. >> and the one we had been warned about which proved to be true, is it's not twice as hard with a second kid. it's like 75 times harder. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> it's impossibly hard. >> seth: yeah. >> and we're not super young, you know? i mean -- >> seth: no we're -- i think we are about the same. >> i think we are the same age. >> seth: yeah. >> very old. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> yeah. >> seth: old for young kids. >> very old for young kids. i'm grateful that i have the patience that i have that i would never had in my 20s. >> seth: i agree with that. >> but the bending over -- >> seth: yeah. >> and waking up early and, you know, all that caring for them. it's exhausting.
>> seth: it is exhausting. and i imagine when you have the second one, the first one doesn't have an appreciation for how much harder it got. they're just still a kid. >> they're a kid. they could care less. yeah, yeah. >> seth: your 2-year-old -- you just had an incident. is it safe to call it an incident? >> it is safe to call it -- i'm going to -- a lot of people come on these shows and they brag about what great parents they are. and i'm about to tell you something very dark. >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] >> okay? first of all, let me just say our 4-year-old is perfect. and we thought we were crushing it as parents. >> seth: right. >> oh, my god. we should write a book. now we have this 2-year-old. she's just an animal. >> seth: yeah. >> right? i mean truth be told the first one's kristen. the second one's me. so, the other night she just would not stay in her bed, refused to do it. not an option for her. and we had friends coming over so i'm like, "you got to get in bed." finally by the 12th time, i lose it. i lose my temper. i pick her up and take her into our bathroom. her favorite thing in the whole world is paw patrol toys, right? she's got a dozen of them or so. they're her life. i pick up all the paw patrol
toys out of the tub. and i throw them in the trash can in front of her. and i hold up the trash can and i say, "if you get out of your bed one more time, these are going out to the big trash can in the driveway." [ laughter ] i swear to god, she goes, "you missed one, daddy." [ laughter ] and i like -- i looked in the tub and i think chase was still in the tub. the police dog, chase -- stone cold, cool hand luke and i'm like, "well, i'm out of options now. this is the thing you care most about." >> seth: yeah. >> it's not 1984. i can't hit her. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> nothing i can do. >> seth: yeah, she called your bluff. >> yes. >> i called my mom the next day. i said, "this is what happened. what should i do?" she said, "that's exactly what you did." i said, "well, what did you do"" so goes, "i gave up." [ laughter ] at three years old, i'm like, "you win. do whatever you want." she goes, "well look, you have health insurance and a career, they'll be fine." >> seth: well, there you go. >> fingers crossed. >> seth: there's something else
before you go that i want to ask about. my wife and i -- i would say we're a huge fans of "game of thrones." but i saw this thing that i'm about to show. and i realized your fandom with kristen dwarves ours. >> let's just say if i were a cast member of "game of thrones", i would be in fear of kristen and i. >> seth: yeah. >> yeah. >> seth: because you guys -- >> that we might sneak into your house and sleep in your bed. >> seth: yeah. because you -- no one asked you to do this. hbo did not reach out. >> no. in fact -- >> seth: you used your own money and your own time. >> we did. >> seth: you're very busy. >> yes, we have the two kids. >> seth: and you shot this. >> yeah, well let's take a look. ♪ [ laughter ] ♪ [ laughter ] ♪
[ laughter ] >> seth: just fantastic. [ cheers and applause ] i'll never. >> we could have made something profitable. >> seth: yeah but you just -- you just threw -- >> we rented those instruments. we had to come up with all those costumes. it was this funny idea that turned into just weeks of work. [ laughter ] and then when we were done, we watched it. and we're like, "it's great. why did we do this?" [ laughter ] >> seth: well i'm glad. i'm glad that we got a chance to show it here. >> it feels great to be recognized. thank you so much. >> seth: thank you so much for being here. always a pleasure to see you -- >> i love it. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: dax shepard, everybody. "el camino christmas" is available on netflix this friday. we'll be right back. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ toasting dad: i'm not one for speeches. but here's to... to many more years of friendship. and feasts! crowd: [laughing, cheering] to presents!
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody. you know our next guest from her work on "downton abbey" and films such as "baby driver" and "pride and prejudice and zombies." she is currently starring in "darkest hour" in select cities now, and everywhere on december 22nd. let's take a look. >> look, i'm not sure if you know this but -- but the way you're
doing your "v" for victory sign. well in the poorer quarters that gesture means something else. >> what does it mean? >> well, i wouldn't like to say, sir. >> i was captured by the boar. i spent time in a south african prison. >> up your bum. sir. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: please welcome to the show lily james, everyone! ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: so first of all, i'm very happy you're here. >> thank you. >> seth: i want to talk about that clip for a moment because i have a photo here for you to explain a little bit more about the "up your bum," cause this was a -- this is historic. >> it's a great way to start. >> seth: exactly. this is historic fact, that clip from the film -- >> yes. >> seth: about something that winston churchill actually did. >> yes, so this one -- i'm not sure if it's the same in america, but that means up yours.
>> seth: yeah. >> and i remember doing it at school, and being like -- [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> whereas this one on the other hand is very different, that's "v" for victory, kind of the peace sign. >> seth: sure. >> i guess it started there maybe. don't know if that's true, but yeah. >> seth: you're not an expert on this one, you're an expert on -- >> i know this one really -- [ laughter ] this originated -- >> seth: this one i'm not quite sure. it's either a v, or like a bird, but this one -- >> it's just fun to do like now, on tv. >> seth: so that, again, i feel every time i show a clip from this film i have to tell people that's gary oldman. >> yeah. >> seth: who is unrecognizable as winston churchill. were you a fan of gary's before this film? >> yeah, i think he's one of the very great actors that we have and he -- i love "true romance." that's one of my favorite movies. so to see him go from like that dreadlocked drug dealer, and then suddenly seeing him as churchill was insane. >> seth: it really does speak to an actor's range, because no one watching "true romance" would say, "there, we found our churchill." >> churchill, there he is. yeah. [ laughter ]
>> seth: this is also very exciting for you personally. i know you just finished filming "mama mia 2." you were a huge fan of -- yeah, give it up for "mama mia"" [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: like them you were also a huge fan. how many times had you seen "mama mia?" >> well, somewhere between like eight and ten. >> seth: yeah. >> i was obsessed -- i'm an obsessive really which is -- >> seth: that's okay. >> that's okay. >> seth: i think it's good that you know. >> i used to every year for my birthday my parents would take me to see a show, and i went to "mama mia" several times, and i love abba, and so it was -- a lot of my friends have been in the west end show so there's kind of like a whole group of us that have been in like a little family. yeah. >> seth: and just the excitement of getting to be in this show that meant a lot to you, you play a young meryl streep, so that -- what is more stressful, playing a young meryl streep or playing winston churchill's personal secretary? because both seem to be very high stress roles.
>> i mean, meryl. >> seth: yeah, i mean young meryl. that is quite an undertaking. >> yeah, i mean both parts were intimidating, elisabeth layton, who i play is a real person, she worked for churchill through the whole of the second world war, and was so dedicated, and incredible and her stories are fascinating, but then meryl's meryl. like -- [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> so, it was -- it is intimidating, but i was just, yeah. >> seth: i just hope one day, what i would love is, i'd love you to retell the churchill story to abba music. like fully bring them together. [ laughter ] >> that would be great. >> seth: you injured yourself on set on "mama mia." yes? >> i did. >> seth: what did you do to yourself? >> i currently have a broken toe. i'm really accident-prone. >> seth: okay. >> actually during that shoot, i stood on a rusty nail, i broke my toe, i danced too much in a beach club in croatia where we filmed, and cut my whole feet in flip-flops. so it's a wonder i've actually managed to dance at all. >> seth: it is -- you don't
think of that being the kind of film, it's not like you shot "the avengers." >> we really didn't. no. >> seth: oh, lily's in bad shape. what from? "mama mia 2." >> yeah, it really took it out of me. >> seth: she really -- she danced way too much. >> i did dance way too much. >> seth: i want to ask, we have had -- since the news, we've had many british guests on the show. i'm always curious to ask, are you excited about the royal wedding. >> yes, i am. >> seth: okay, so you are. >> i am. i am. i find it really exciting. i think they're, you know, inspiring, and they're going to do good, and i couldn't help but watch there video interview, and be like, "oh they're so in love." >> seth: it was a really charming video interview. >> it was. they were holding each other's hands. >> seth: yeah, yeah. i will admit that i went into it with a cynic's heart, and then i watched that video, and thought, "oh, good for them." >> yeah, yeah, me too, me too. yeah. >> seth: yeah, it's nice. i'm like, "you know what, good for you. live your life and" -- >> live that life in a palace. >> seth: you know what? i think you two are going to be all right. >> yeah. i think even if -- yeah, they've got a lot to fall back on. >> seth: well, thank you so much for being here, and congratulations. >> no, thanks for having me.
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: our next guest is an emmy winning writer, and author of "the zombie survival guide," and "world war z." his latest novel "minecraft, the island" is available now. please welcome to the show max brooks, everyone! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: so great to see you, max. >> it's good to see you. >> seth: for those who don't know, we were both hired in 2001 for a little show called "saturday night live." we started together. >> that's right. we came up together. >> seth: yeah, and for those who also forget 2001 was a very weird time to start working at "saturday night live." >> that's right. we got our job, we threw our hats in the the air. we're going to make it after all, and then two weeks later, 9/11 happened. >> seth: 9/11 happened, all the hats came back on -- >> i know.
>> seth: and do you remember what happened just like a month after that? >> we had anthrax in the building. >> seth: yeah. >> good times. >> seth: yeah, it was the last thing that made you want to write comedy. >> no, but remember right after 9/11, we were saying, "okay well at least the worst is over, it's all uphill from here," and then literally we came into work and some guy named tommy thompson said you all have anthrax. >> seth: yeah. >> that was fun. >> seth: and then we said well we'll get back to our sketches then. >> i know. [ laughter ] i think we did fish genitals. >> seth: yeah, we did, we did a sketch about fish genitals to help america heal. >> we showed them. [ laughter ] >> seth: no, this is crazy. so you wrote "the zombie survival guide. " >> right. >> seth: which obviously zombies, not real, but the guide was written in such a way with actual dealing with crisis that the military reached out to you. >> yeah, shocking. i wrote zombie survive guide, and then a little book called "world war z." >> seth: there you go. [ cheers and applause ] >> and then out of the blue the naval war college asked for me, and i thought "that's cute, who is this really?" and they said, "no, no, no.
we want you to come speak," and from there i kept getting these invitations to different military forums, and before i knew i'm a fellow at the modern war institute westpoint in the atlantic council. >> seth: now, see my thing is -- if the same thing had happened to me, and they reached out my first instinct, would be like, oh [ bleep ] zombie's are real. [ laughter ] >> right, which did cross my mind. >> seth: right. >> well actually what crossed my mind was when i stood up in front of this room, i thought okay you mixed up your paperwork and there's a lieutenant commander max brooks somewhere at comic-con. >> seth: yeah exactly, and you actually were just in d.c. today. >> yeah, literally today. it's why i look so tired. i literally was at a conference, the army futures forum. >> seth: wow. >> yeah. it's where they invite all these important military people, scientists, academics, all these important people, and me. [ laughter ] and we are all trying to help the military adapt to this ever changing world. >> seth: that's fantastic. another -- so your new book is about the world of "minecraft." >> yes. >> seth: for those who don't know this is a game, a video game, but that doesn't quite
seem like a fair way to describe "minecraft." >> no, no, and that's the crazy thing. you know, most video games, the games that we grew up on are very linear, it's right way, wrong way, go up the next level, shoot something in the face, and then keep going up, and that's it. "minecraft" is essentially life. you are on your own world, it's all blocks, but you have to survive. you have to make sure you don't starve, and when the darkness comes, so do zombies. >> seth: and you play it with your 12-year-old? >> oh yeah, no, no. we play it all the time. there are two modes, there's creative, and there's survival, and i explained to him, creative is when everything is just given to you without earning it, it's the equivalent of you living in my house. [ laughter ] and then eventually you're going to go on survival mode, and have to survive, and there's a game for you to practice. >> seth: you took your 12-year-old to amsterdam, was that creative or survival? [ laughter ] >> there's no game for this. there's no scenario. basically i did everything wrong, and i've learned when you see an alleyway, and you think it's just an alleyway, and you're walking through, and your
12-year-old says daddy why are all these women naked -- >> seth: yeah. >> and you look side to side, and there's, you know, working girls working hard. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> you learn what you should do is just say, "okay, well, you know, this is their culture, and they don't take -- it's not a big deal, it's just like ours." that's what you do. what you don't do is smack your hand over their face, and grab them by the head, and try to drag them out by the heels while your wife is laughing so hard she can't breathe. >> seth: yeah. >> that you do not do. >> seth: no that probably just sets them back. >> no, no. >> seth: if anything they're like i got to get back to amsterdam. >> oh yeah, no, yes. now there's a map of the world with a giant dart on amsterdam. >> seth: your father is mel brooks. do you still see him a fair amount? [ cheers and applause ] >> yes. i see him every night. every night. he has a routine. in between his work, and carl reiner's house, he comes over, and my son the 12-year-old, he's at that age
where everything's inappropriate. and he tries to talk, and i go "don't say that, don't repeat that, don't tell your teachers"" so my dad comes over. "grandpa, come here i got to tell you something," and they go into the play room, and i hear -- [ whispering ] my father, i hear him go, "don't tell your teacher anything you just said." so that's our relationship. >> seth: and do you -- is it true that you have things from some of your father's films? are you a collector of his memorabilia? >> i don't know if you call it a collector. >> seth: right, it's just your dad giving it to you. >> but -- he said, "here do you want this." i go, "yeah sure." so i wrote -- >> seth: i collect my dad's old shirts. >> yeah, exactly. so i wrote this book, and i write all my books sitting on one of the swivel chairs from the bridge of "spaceballs 1." >> seth: that's fantastic. [ cheers ] >> so, that's pretty cool. >> seth: that's great. >> no complaints. >> seth: like, that's a good place to have writer's block. you say, "you now what, the words aren't coming, but at least i'm in a 'space balls' chair." >> yeah, i can just turn around on that one. >> seth: thanks so much for being here. congrats on the book. >> thank you. thank you. >> seth: such a pleasure. >> good to see you. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: max brooks everybody. "minecraft, the island" is
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