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[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight -- kit harington, activist and author chelsea clinton, music from marina, featuring the 8g band with fred armisen. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers. >> seth: good evening. i'm seth meyers. how is everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applaus] that is great to hear. in that case, let's get to the news. president trump last night threatened to close the u.s.-mexico border, adding, quote, "our country is full." [ light laughter ] really?
'cause it sure didn't look that way at your inauguration. [ cheers and applause ] seating was available. homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen stepped down yesterday. which is good, but you just know whoever replaces her is going to be even worse. [ laughter ] nielsen stepping down is like in "jurassic park" movies where a little dinosaur runs by, and you're like, "oh that's cute." [ light laughter ] and then you look back, and there's a t-rex chasing it. you're like, "oh. oh, that's why it was running." according to reports, president trump recently told his aides that white house adviser steven miller is in charge of all immigration and border issues. the plan is to just put him on the border, and hope no one wants to come in. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] president trump went to california this weekend to view a section of border fencing and
falsely claim the area was part of his proposed border wall, when it is actually a refurbished section of decades-old fencing. even worse, the local sheriff he was talking to turned out to be just a mailbox. [ laughter ] [ applause ] "it is -- it is an honor to shake your tiny red flag." [ laughter ] former vice president joe biden, on friday, addressed past incidents where his physical contact made women uncomfortable. saying quote, "i'm not sorry for anything that i've ever done." biden read the statement from a pack of white guy flash cards. [ laughter ] [ applause ] indiana mayor and presidential hopeful pete buttigieg said in a new interview this weekend that he wants to, quote, "help and apparently, it still includes "grey's anatomy."
the coachella music and arts in case you're wondering where the hannah in your office is. [ laughter ] [ applause ] anyone seen hannah? you guys seen hannah? shake shack is selling two new "game of thrones" themed menu items which can only be ordered if customers ask for them in the show's valerian language. so if your date does this, know that they already struck out when they suggested shake shack as a good date. [ laughter ] [ applause ] and finally, authorities in pennsylvania are searching for a suspect who stole -- who stole oria's secret store.t ma with n what his girlfriend wants for her birthday. he's starring in the final season of hbo's "game of ladies and gentlemen, we have a thrones." fantastic show y our friend kit harington is back, everyone. [ cheers and applause ] how about that?
her new children's book, "don't let them disappear" is available now. chelsea clinton, everyone. [ cheers and applause ] we will have music from marina. so you're here on a great night. last week, we also had some great shows, and there is a person that no one else is more looked forward to by everybody on our staff than henry winkler, who was on our show last thursday. henry is not only an acting legend, but he is truly the nicest person who has ever walked through the doors of this studio. whe everybody -- except it's on thursday, so i got that wrong. [ light laughter ] $5 friday sounds better. it was on $3 thursday. see that, i get right. it was on $5 thursday, and henry winkler stopped by and said, "oh, i'll do this." and what he did was he took out a $5 bill, like everybody does it, and he signed hi.me there it is, henry winkler, right over there. and then, he put it in and then he left. and then, we put it like a bingo wheel, and it gets spun. and an intern comes over and
takes out the winning name, and that's the person who gets all the money. and it turned out to be henry winkler, which has never happened. it's also never happened because he's the first guest who ever participated. [ laughter ] someone from our show had to call henry winkler in his car and said, "hey you just won $5 thursday." and henry winkler said, "oh my god, that's so wonderful. please use the money to get everybody pizza." and we said, "oh, that's so sweet." he goes, "just out of curiosity, how much was it?" and we said, "$1 and he said, "send me a check." [ laughter ] [ applause ] he was joking. [ laughter ] henry winkler right there. moving on, whether it's on immigration or his tax returns, the president once again reminded us this weekend that he considers himself above the law. for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause ]
>> seth: president trump toured the border on friday to once again make the case that there is a national emergency happening there, which there is not. he touted a section of the border wall that had been planned during the obama administration, and in the process, he invented a new word. >> so behind us is the wall. it's the new wall. we've done a lot of it, and we're doing a lot more. you see it over here. much of it's reinforced heavily. and very, very hard to climb. if you want to climb that, it's pretty sharp up on top too. but it's a very, very hard -- it's meant anti-climb. it's called anti-climb. [ laughter ] >> seth: so trump went from being the anti-crime candidate to the anti-climb president. he's an old man yelling at kids to stay away from his oak tree. gonna pay for it." [ light laughter ] trump also hosted a rounbl and both at that event and later at his tour of the wall, he kept harping on how good they looked. >> i want to thank my men and women who do a tremendous job here everyday.
i'm very, very proud of their commitment, even though they're facing extreme challenges, as you've heard. >> and they're central casting. i've never seen a group of people like this. everyone is in perfect shape. central casting. you can't -- >> no. >> you don't have anybody in hollywood that looks like these guys. >> seth: i'm pretty sure -- i'm pretty sure they do. [ laughter ] at least in one of the suburbs, i feel like -- maybe pomona or something? also, trump's very obsessed with central casting for a guy who looks like the exact opposite of a movie president. if trump went to central casting, they'd probably send him on auditions for alcoholic irish priest, or ghost who haunts a queens otb. [ laughter ] "the fifth horse in the sixth race, bet it all." trump has been furious at mexico for supposedly allowing migrants fleeing poverty and violence to come to the u.s. seeking asylum. last week, for example, he
threatened to close the border completely, and when everyone, including his own party, warned that that would cause an economic catastrophe, trump backed off and claimed he was giving mexico a one-year warning before he would impose tariffs on mexican imports. >> the only thing frankly better, but less drastic than closing the border is to tariff the cars coming in, and i will do it. just like -- you know i will do it. i don't play games. i'll do it. so we're doing it to stop people. we're going to give them a one-year warning. >> seth: well, he's been promising to build a wall for ch years, so if i were mexico, lame threat. he's like a high school bully with no follow-through. "you better give me your milk money nerd, or i'll beat you up as soon as the mcrib comes back." [ laughter ] trump's been especially furious about the asylum process. now it's both a u.s. and international right to seek asylum, but trump doesn't care. he has repeatedly painted poor migrant families seeking asylum as dangerous threats, and he did so again in a rambling speech over the weekend.
>> the asylum program is a scam. some of the roughest people you've ever seen, people that look like they should be fighting for the ufc. >> seth: what? [ laughter ] have you ever seen a ufc fight? if connor mcgregor were trying to sneak across the border, people would notice. [ laughter ] uh, chief, we got a crazy irish guy here, trying to kick his way through the wall. [ laughter ] i can't climb it, but i'll kick it. [ laughter ] is it anti-kick? [ laughter ] trump doesn't care that we have an established legal process in this country for applying for asylum. that system involves making your case in front of a judge. it's a basic right enshrined in u.s. and international law. but trump has been saying he wants to get rid of that. >> we have to do something aylum and to be honest with you, we have to get rid of judges. we have a stupid system of courts. it's the craziest thing in the
world. they have to get rid of the whole asylum system because it doesn't work. and frankly, we should get rid of judges. >> seth: why do you want to get rid of judges? is it because they keep putting everyone who works for you in jail? [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] "let me make something very clear, if we are going to keep judges, they should have to pay for our monster.com account because we're getting killed on staffing costs." [ light laughter ] maybe trump wants to get rid of judges because he doesn't understand what judges are, or how court cases work. at the roundtable on friday, for example, he blasted a court case called reno v. flores, which protects migrant children from being held indefinitely in custody and grants them certain basic rights. it's often referred to as the flores decision. court cases are named after parties involved, but trump seems to think the case was named after the judge who made the decision. >> flores decision is a disaster. i have to tell you judge flores, whoever you may be, that decision is a disaster for our country. [ laughter ]
>> seth: there is no judge flores. [ laughter ] no one calls the o.j. simpson trial the lance ito case. in fact -- [ laughter and applause ] trump has been so furious at his own administration's inability to stop legal asylum seekers that on sunday, he took the step of ousting his own hardline secretary of homantoh enough on. and her firing leaves ye official. nielsen is officially out as secretary of homeland security. >> she apparently bore the brunt of the president's anger over the issue of immigration. >> now we will have an acting homeland security secretary on top of an acting secretary of defense, on top of an acting secretary of interior, on top an acting ambassador to the united nations, and then, an acting chief of staff. >> seth: i mean, this
administration has more staff turnover than a walmart on black friday. [ laughter ] i don't know to tell you. we're out of hatchimals. you know what? i quit. good-bye. nielsen, of course, oversaw and defended the administration's horrific policy of separating migrant families, and she was an enthusiastic advocate for the trump administration's immigration policies. at one point, she even started mimicking trump's language when she went to congress, and asked for more border wall funding. >> i will continue to work with the northern triangle countries, with mexico, to help vulnerable populations as soon as possible. fr c we need wall. >> seth: we need wall. [ light laughter ] i guess it's not surprising they're ignoring articles of the constitution, they're ignoring articles altogether. [ laughter and applause ] trump turns everyone -- trump turns everyone he works with into tarzan. it doesn't matter how smart you are. if shakespeare had worked for trump, the line would have been, "be or not be. that is question." [ laughter ] the problem here is pretty straightforward. trump thinks he should be able to just ignore the law.
we've seen the same thing play out this week over his tax returns. for months, trump has been building toward a confrontation with democrats in congress over those tax returns. trump has promised for years that he would eventually release them. but he has repeatedly used an obviously false excuse, that he's always under audit. it's an excuse he started using in 2016 and has continued to repeat as recently as last week. >> are you going to release your tax returns? >> at the appropriate time, i will release them. but right now, i'm under routine audit. i don't mind releasing, i'm una and as soon as the audit's finished, it'll be released. look, as i've told you they're under audit. they have been for a long time. they're extremely complex. people wouldn't understand them. every year they audit me, audit me, audit me. nobody gets audited -- i have friends that are very wealthy people, they never get audited. i get audited every year. i'm always under audit it seems, but i've been under audit for many years because the numbers are big, and i guess when you have a name, you're audited. >> seth: first of all, it's not
when you have a name. it's when you have your name. if you've had four bankruptcies, tie to mobsters, and lied about your net worth your whole life, you're going to get audited. that's the easiest call an irs agent will ever make. who should we audit? i don't know, how about the guy whose penthouse looks like gold member's bathroom? [ laughter ] second, this audit is obviously not real. it wasn't real when he first said it in 2016 and there's no way it's taken almost four years. it can't be that hard to find something fishy in trump's tax returns. just skim down to the charity line where he listed his adult sons. [ laughter ] trump is the first president in 40 years not to release his tax returns. and without them, we have no idea where he's getting money from, or who he owes money to. which is crazy. he's the president. you'd want to know if your doctor had a side business running a mortuary.e, but just in case, have you thought about a wood casket? [ light laughter ] pine is very nice. subpoena power, trump warned that he would resist attempts to subpoena his tax returns.
and at one point, he even said he was bored by the question. >> just a point of clarification on the tax returns issue, you bought up the audit. that doesn't prevent you from releasing them. >> i know. sure, but i didn't say it prevented me, i said lawyers will tell you not to do it. what's your next question, go ahead. come on, let's go. >> just on that -- >> more exciting question than that please. >> okay -- >> seth: oh i'm sorry, are we boring you, caligula? [ laughter ] it's not their job to entertain you. who would win a fight, a tiger or an alligator?question. this is the white house, not the roman coliseum. they're not gonna feed you grapes while you watch them joust. kellyanne, make the reporters fight. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] at that same press conference, trump also threatened that there would be consequences if democrats subpoena his tax returns. >> do you expect that when the democrats take over the chairmanship of all these important committees, you're going to get hit with a blizzard of subpoenas on everything from russia investigation --
>> well then it's going to come -- okay. >> to your cell phone use, to your tax returns. >> ready, then you're going to -- if that happens, then we're going to do the same thing and government comes to a halt. >> seth: comes to a halt? the government is already at a halt. forget the tax returns, you shut the government down for a month because you didn't get your dumb wall. plus there's like four people working there, and half the time you're in florida. there are empty blockbuster video storitity. [ light laughter ] [ applause ] honey, i -- great news, honey, i just rented a vhs copy of "forrest gump" from a very friendly squirrel. [ laughter ] that threat is telling because trump isn't actually making a legal argument. he's simply saying he doesn't care. if you try to hold him accountable, he'll shut down the government. that's it. and this weekend, after democrats officially requested six years of trump's tax returns from the irs, his chief of staff -- oh excuse me, his acting chief of staff, mick mulvaney, made a similar argument. mulvaney said flat out, the democrats will never get trump's tax returns no matter what the law says. >> you believe democrats will never see the president's tax returns. >> oh no, never.
nor should they. >> seth: what do you mean never? it's a congressional request. you can't just turn it down like hors d'oeuvres at a party. you've been served. oh, no thank you, i've already had a hundred big macs. [ laughter ] whenever trump is threatened politically, he becomes more lawless. whether it's on immigration, or his tax returns, he sees himself as above that law. he's painting immigrants as criminals while he refuses to show us his tax returns. you could almost say the whole thing is -- >> a scam. >> seth: this has been "a closer look." [ cheers and applause ] we'll be rightk body [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: for more of seth's "closer looks", be sure to subscribe to "late night" on youtube. -♪ just like any other family ♪ the house, kids, they're living the dream ♪ ♪ and here comes the wacky new maid ♪ -maid? uh, i'm not the... -♪ is she an alien, is she a spy? ♪
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♪ >> seth: welcome back. give it up for the 8g band, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] also, we are thrilled to have with us all this week, fred armisen. give it up for fred, everybody. [ cheers ] fred, you are such a busy guy, and i'm always blown away by how many projects you manage to juggle over the course of a year. but there is a price you pay for how busy you are. and you were lamenting the fact to me that you do not have time anymore to read fiction. >> fred: i just don't have that time. >> seth: and that used to be -- i mean, we all -- anyone who
knew you, that was your favorite leisure activity. >> fred: i love reading. >> seth: yeah. you said, "leisure." that was -- i want to make clear, you would say "leisure." >> fred: i did say, "leisure." >> seth: yes. but you said you've developed a -- basically, a way to just look at the cover of a book, a technique if you will. and from the cover of the book you can figure out the entire plot, all the characters, and so you get the same joy that yo [ light laughter ] >> fred: yes. just from one look. >> seth: okay. can we try it real quick again? >> fred: sure. >> seth: all right, great. here it is. it's segment called "fred judges a book by it's cover." m♪ [ cheers ] >> seth: okay. ready, bud? >> fred: sure. >> seth: this is "the beantown girls" -- >> fred: "the beantown girls." >> seth: by jane healey. fred, what is this book about? author of these "saturday evening girls club." [ light laughter ] >> seth: yeah, all right. >> fred: and this is about a concession stand that only sold beans. [ laughter ] and so what happens is this concession stand, it's at -- it goes kind of cross country.
>> seth: uh-huh. >> fred: and they put so much money into it. and they really work hard, you know, for their families. and just like -- they really put a lot together to get the truck and everything. and they go out to do this tour of selling these beans, 'cause people love beans. >> seth: yeah. >> fred: in this world. this takes place, 1938. fred: 1. >> seth: oh wow. you can get be specific. >> fred: yeah, yeah. 1939, '38, '30 -- >> seth: okay. yeah. >> fred: just trying to see that -- yes. '38, '39. the only thing they forgot was to stock the truck full of beans. [ light laughter ] so what happens is they go town to town. they're like, "we already booked this tour." what they do is they explain to the people running up -- all the kids -- 'cause kids run up like, "we're ready for our beans." [ laughter ] and so what they do is they laugh it off. >> seth: oh, okay. >> fred: they've developed this art of laughing it off. like, "oh, it's not about the beans and" -- [ laughter ] and they call the truck "the cross club mobile." the duh, the duh, cross club mobile.
[ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] and, yeah. that's it. >> seth: can i -- can i tell you what the publisher says it is? re fure planned out.ng has her she'll work in city hall, marry her fiance when he returns from the war, and settle down in the boston suburbs. but when her finance is reported missing, her plans are forever changed, and she has to open a bean truck. so there you go. alright. >> fred: yes. exactly right. >> seth: you were a lot closer than i thought. fred armisen, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] our first guest tonight is an emmy-nominated actor who stars as jon snow in hbo's award winning series, "game of thrones." [ cheers ] the new season premiere's this sunday april 14th at 9:00 p.m. please welcome back to the show, the king of the north, kit harington, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪
>> seth: welcome back, kit. >> thank you. thank you. >> seth: this, i -- [ cheers and applause ] glad to have you here. this -- i'm wondering if it's surreal for you. you just spent the entire week in this building, just down the hall hosting an excellent episode of "saturday night live." was it -- is it weird -- 'cause most people who host don't then come back to the building on monday. [ laughter ] >> yeah. i know. i know. i just -- i spent like four days straight in this building without seeing fresh air, or breathing fresh air. seth: it w- you did say you feel like you made a mistake that you wouldn't make again when you met the writing staff. >> yeah. i -- this is something -- anyone who's going to host "snl", don't do what i did. which is go -- when they ask you, "what kind of things do you want to do? do you have any talents? do you have anything that you want to show off?" and i thought and i thought, "i have zero talents." [ light laughter ] so i said, right, "i'll do anything you want me to do." >> seth: yeah, don't do that.
[ laughter ] >> "any skit that you have. anything that you've been holding back that you think's too controversial, you know, i'll do it." and they really took me at my word. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> yeah. >> seth: they all have, like, five of those. you know, they're just waiting for someone to come in -- >> yeah. >> seth: who's as innocent as you that will make the mistake of saying that. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> you got to play winston churchill in a sketch. and that is -- is that the reason you're clean shaven? >> yeah. they clean shaved me. there were various reasons i was clean shaven. i had to play michael jackson and winston churchill. >> seth: yeah. >> it's a sentence i'll never -- >> seth: famously un-bearded men. yeah. >> yeah, yeah. yeah. famously hairless men. so, they shaved me. time. and it's the first time i've had and i did it. a reason to shave in a long and i feel like i look like a kind of tired child. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] [ applause ] you also -- this whole city block, basically, was your week. because then the premiere of "game of thrones" was, i guess, last wednesday right at radio city as well. so you basically had your whole life right here. >> oh, it was bizarre. i was doing the -- on the wednesday, they do a read
through of "snl", and it goes on for a while. and they were very good to let me out. cause it's a busy week to let me out to go to the premiere of "game of thrones." but during the read through i could hear -- 'cause it was at radio city -- i could hear the cheers for my cast mates arriving. [ laughter ] and as they went on, i was sat next to lorne. and i was, kind of looking at him going, "i think i have to leave." >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> i really do. i mean, the cheers are getting bigger. you know, the cheers are now stopping. i think i should probably go to the 'game of thrones' premiere, or sit next to lorne while he's eating edamame. i'm going to guess that's -- >> it was! >> seth: yeah, he was, right, yeah. [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> he was. how did you know? it was. >> seth: yeah, it was. >> yeah. >> seth: that's what they're actually -- when "game of thrones is over, they're replacing it. the new show is just going to be [ laughter ] i know. they think it'll go seven seasons. >> yeah. >> seth: you also, i will say, while not your first sketch show -- sketch work in the building. you did jon snow at a dinner party with us a few years ago. >> yeah. >> seth: and still one of my
favorite things we've done on the show. so t y >> i loved doing that. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: you -- we obviously -- we took advantage of the fact that you play jon snow. you're married to rose leslie, one of your co-stars on the show. >> yeah. >> seth: and who's fantastic. and she was here last year, and said you pulled a very cruel -- and it -- the audience agreed with her that it was a very [ laughter ] ue refrigerator, and you had that >> yeah. yeah. there. >> seth: so, did you back off april fool's, or did you do something -- do you do no pranks a year after that? or do you try something else? >> see, i started strong. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> the amount of props at my disposal has diminished. >> seth: of course. sure. >> this year was -- i did pull an april fool's on her while we were out her. and it was the most -- i'm aware this is the most first world april fool's -- [ laughter ] before i tell this story. but she -- i didn't know what to do. and she has a favorite almond milk. she won't drink any other almond milk. so i just wrote an article about how this company that makes her
favorite article -- almond milk was going under because of brexit. [ laughter ] now this backfired 'cause she immediately rang my p.a. and got her to bulk order this almond milk with my credit card. [ laughter ] so end up spending 150 quid on almond milk. [ applause ] >> seth: yeah. it turns out the only thing more terrifying than seeing your severed head in a refrigerator is just cartons upon cartons of almond milk. >> yeah. >> seth: you're like, "oh no!" >> yeah, exactly. >> seth: you -- i've heard you talk about, you know, in the many scenes you have to do in "game of thrones," obviously things as an actor you probably never would have expected before. seeing what that show is going to be. you were also dead on a table, and naked dead on a table, surrounded by -- [ scattered cheers ] now come on. [ laughter ] no, hold on. [ cheers and appla] you're cheering a dead naked
body. [ laughter ] necrophiliac monsters. [ laughter ] was that embarrassing, that moment? >> i loved it. i loved that couple of days. you know, i got to -- [ light laughter ] they warmed the room. i was on a table asleep, essentially, for two full days. >> seth: yeah. i guess compared to some of the other things they ask you to do, that's not that bad. >> yeah. >> seth: yeah. >> i mean, i fell -- i literally fell asleep in those scenes. yeah. no, no, that was some of my best work. [ laughter ] >> seth: i will say -- i was like, "he's really dead." >> yeah. >> seth: yeah. he's really -- man, he's so good at dead. >> it's the way they kept coming up to me and going, "you do" -- like, i haven't had a compliment by -- from some of the crew at all about my work. but they were like, "you do a really good dead body." [ laughter ] so there's a future in "csi" for me as a corpse. >> seth: there you go, yeah. have you -- when you were reading the scripts for the final season, were you trying to do it in real time? or were you skipping ahead to the end to see how everything came to a conclusion? >> i mean, there was a big temptation to skip ahead -- >> seth: yeah.
>> when they sent us those final -- 'cause no one wants to know what happens more than we do. >> seth: sure. >> but i didn't. i stopped myself. they came so late. they were like three days before the read through, 'cause they anst an-- "what's better than hearing it" -- we had this big read through, and hearing it with all the rest of the cast actually reading as their characters. so, i became like a litmus test for the season. they put a camera on me to see my reactions as the events unfolded. and david and daniel, the producers, are looking at me, and they got some pretty good reactions. i think there'll be a documentary at some point where you'll see -- [ laughter ] >> seth: was it different -- >> where you see me going like that. >> seth: i mean, yeah. i was -- were there actual, like, palpable moments of this cast and crew at their last table read? like, i mean, not to give anything away, but i'm assuming there's moments where you're like -- >> of course. >> seth: yeah. >> it's going to be a terrible last season. [ laughter ] but i've just been like deadpan. like, nothing happened. >> seth: yeah. [ light laughter ] it all works out, and everybody moves into a condo together, yeah. [ laughter ] >> yeah. i can say that. there are definite big moments.
>> seth: that's good. i'm very happy. always a big moment to have you here. thank you so much, kit. great job, again, on saturday. [ cheers and applause ] kit harington, everybody. final season of "game of thrones" premiers this sunday night at 9:00 p.m. on hbo. we'll be right back with chelsea clinton. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ [music and singing in the background] [music and singing in the background] [music and singing in the background] mom? ¡mom! mom! mommy at t.j.maxx we believe just because the name's the same,
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: our next guest is the vice chair of the clinton foundation and a "new york times" best selling author. her newest children's book, "don't let them disappear: 12 endangered species across the globe", is available now. please welcome back to the show chelsea clinton, everyone. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: welcome back to the show! >> thank you, seth. >> seth: very happy to have you here. obviouth abo endangered species, and you've been doing a lot of traveling, going to different zoos. i want to show you a photo. you met a -- what kind of -- the hellbender.
>> a hellbender, we did. >> seth: what is a hellbender? >> a very large salamander. >> seth: a very large salamander. and i will say, hellbender, not an attractive animal, but -- >> cute in it's own way. >> seth: i will say, you're giving best effort there. [ light laughter ] >> it actually was -- okay, it was a little slimy, but it also was quite soft. >> seth: yes, and then who is this, your friend that touched it? who is this that i'm about to show you? do you know? because she is not -- >> oh, my god! [ laughter ] >> seth: she does not seem as happy. >> that's joy. >> seth: that's joy? >> oh, my gosh. i'm so sorry, joy. i didn't know this was going to happen tonight. [ laughter ] >> seth: i feel like you're someone who's just been in politics a lot longer than joy. you're like, no matter whose hand you're shaking you've got to look like you're engaged. [ light laughter ] >> well, and look at mark, the keeper who has like really taken on trying to save the hellbenders. they've released 6,000 into the wild. >> seth: yeah. >> they're a huge part of what the st. louis zoo is doing. so, like, look at mark. >> seth: and joy just sells them out. [ laughter ] >> joy just, i guess -- oh, my god.
>> seth: you know, i think it's very -- >> may i take that? >> seth: yeah, you can have that. of course, there you go. >> i can have that. thank you. >> seth: you -- i think there are just a litany of things that are getting lost in the shuffle as far as what's going on with the current administration. conservation is obviously a huge one of those. are you -- obviously, you're doing your best. but do you feel like this is an but also based on the noise, is impossible to focus on? >> yeah, i think that a lot of people don't know how much the trump administration has done to roll back protections for endangered species. so they weakened the endangered species act. it's now legal to bring elephant, and lion carcasses, and trophies into the country. they're planning on opening the arctic wildlife natural refuge to oil drilling. that would be devastating for polar bears. they tried to relegalize grizzly bear hunting in yellowstone national park. and it hadn't been done in more than 40 years. so they're really, you know, pushing back on endangered species wherever they can.
>> seth: and how do you even try to explain to people how serious white house, this one seems pretty chaotic. >> yeah, you think? >> seth: yeah. >> yeah. >> seth: i mean, i would imagine because of your experience, you would say that certain people who have an expectation of what has mo going on. are you constantly taken aback, ho >> yes. >> seth: okay. >> and by the new levels of cruelty -- >> seth: yeah. >> that this administration seems to find, whether it's with the children being separated from their families at the border, or it's with the endangered species act, which had never really been controversial before. >> seth: yeah. >> i mean passed like pretty unanimously, signed by president richard nixon, of all people. >> seth: yep. yeah. >> and yet trump has made this controversial, too. >> seth: right, he believes that if you're endangered, you did something wrong. [ laughter ] >> well -- and his sons like to hunt. >> seth: yeah, they are hunters. >> so i think, kind of, that's the beginning of the end. >> seth: i would hope that if his sons did it he would hate
th >> unfortunately. >> seth: i also want to ask, it must be very strange that fox news -- i don't know if you know, it's a channel -- every -- [ laughter ] >> i don't watch it, i am aware of it. >> seth: yes, you're aware of it. but you probably are also aware that your family is still a topic of obsession for fox news. are you surprised? is your mother aware that you guys are still, sort of -- >> living rent free, in their heads. >> seth: yeah. >> yes. you know, i do find it bewildering. i will say if it consumes time and oxygen to allow the democrats in the house, and the senate, and in the state houses, and legislatures to actually get real work done. i guess i could be okay with that. like, if they're still obsessing about my mother's walking in the woods, and it allows democrats to actually try to stop bad things from happening, and make progress elsewhere. like, i can live with that. but i do sometimes wonder, if my
mother weren't here -- and i hope she's here for many, many, many decades to come, like, what would they talk about? [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah, it'd be very strange. >> yes. >> seth: it would just like, we're back from commercial, and we're going to have another one in five minutes, and just go about your business, and we'll go about ours. [ laughter ] what -- i want to ask you, as well, you have another one on the way. how are the -- >> yes. >> seth: congratulations. >> thank you very much. thank you. >> seth: you are -- 2 and 4 now? >> 2 and 4. >> seth: how are 2 and 4-year-olds reacting to the news? are they excited? >> so, our daughter charlotte is really excited. >> seth: uh-huh. she loves being a big sister. i think admittedly she partly loves being a big sister 'cause her little brother adores her. >> seth: oh there you go. >> and so -- >> seth: right, more -- build her fan base. >> yeah, exactly. i think she sees this as like, someone else to adore her. but she is a reallod generous-hearted big sister. i think though aidan is mainly excited, again -- like see previous comment about his
adoration of his big sister, because his big sister is excited. so every day charlotte wants to like touch my belly, see if she can feel the baby, talk about the baby. and then aiden will sort of clue in and be like, "baby!" yes! >> seth: and how are your parents as grandparents? i mean i know you're obviously, you know, you're going to grade them well, but do you feel like they're doing a good job? >> i think they're doing a really good job. they're really involved, which i love. i love watching them read, and sing, and play with our kids. i definitely have like really dropped on the ladder of importance. >> seth: yeah. >> whole conversations now happen while i will have like hung up the phone, or gotten off facetime, and i'm like, they never asked how i was. [ laughter ] and that's okay. >> seth: i think that happens. i think that happens everywhere. >> natural order. >> seth: thank you, as always, for being here. thanks for writing the book. >> thank you, seth. thank you so much. [ cheers and applause ] thank you. >> seth: that's chelsea clinton, everybody! "don't let them disappear" is available now. we'll be right back with music from marina. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ ♪
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