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the 7pm news, weeknights on kpix 5. captioning sponsored by cbs >> brennan: i'm margaret brennan in washington, and this week on "face the nation," along with a sunny economic outlook come clouds of caution with the growing number of new coronavirus cases. now that spring has sprung, some businesses are booming. >> we're at a place where the economy is about to start growing much more quickly. >> brennan: we'll preview jerome powell's "60 minutes" with scott pelley. if that's the case, do we need the $2 trillion bill democrats are tr trying to get through congress. we'll hear from nancy pelosi and liz cheney. we'll also look at the crucial caveat in chairman
powell's assessment. our recovery is tied to americans taking the coronavirus seriously. in michigan, the covid-19 situation is so bad, that governor gretchen whitmer used a trifecta of sports analogies. >> the fourth down on the two yard line with five seconds left in the fourth quarter. we cannot afford to strike out, fumble the ball, it is everybody against covid. >> brennan: she is lobbying the biden administration for more vaccine supply. so far they said they'll help, but no extra shots. >> we don't know where the next increase in cases could occur. now is not the time to change course or vaccine allocations. >> brennan: especially not when there are supply glitches, and even more demands. in a week, all americans over 18 will be the eligible for a covid-19
vaccine. >> biden: no more confusing rules, no more confusing restrictions. >> brennan: we'll check in with former f.d.a. commissioner dr. scott gottlieb and look at the new guidelines for the school with superintendent tony thurmond, and it's all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪ >> brennan: good morning. and welcome to "face the nation." we begin today with caution and optimism. although there is concern about the rising number of covid-19 cases, especially among children, saturday saw a record 4.6 million vaccinations, nearly 71 million adults have been fully vaccinated. when it comes to unemployment, we're still far from where we were pre-pandemic, but as mark strassmann reports, the job market is looking much
brighter in some key sectors. >> reporter: and just like that, jobs are back. >> we are hiring on the spot. we're looking for over 40 guest room attendants. >> reporter: credit a burst in spending from a nation no longer in hibernation. a double injection of adrenalin from the $1.9 trillion stimulus package and three million americans getting vaccinated a day. >> a lot of pent-up demand. >> reporter: but in many sectors, the new north normal for employers is a shortage in workers. some chains now offer signing bonuses, not to executives, but to cooks and kitchen staff. covid america's run-away unemployment crisis is over. we're seeing the return of job fairs like this one. >> go get your vaccinations and come out
and get a job. >> reporter: nationwide, more than one in three americans have had at least one shot of a vaccine. in many moments and ways, america feels back. [cheering] >> reporter: baseball fans crowded ba ballparks. 12 states have lifted their mask mandates, but other states are in deep covid trouble. >> i think it is the foururth of ffinal wave. >> reporter: covid is stalking upper midwest states, michigan especially. cases have spiked seven-fold since february. hospitalizations have increased by more than four times. so far governor gretchen whitmer has dismissed calls to shut down the state again. >> including c.d.c. response teams, fema, d.o.d., and other personnel -- we need them to support vaccinations and getting shots in arms. >> reporter: america's supply of the johnson &
johnson single-shot vaccine will plunge 85% because of contamination issues at the production plant in baltimore. 15 million doses had to be tossed. a clear setback. >> there is bad news from the fed that they're going to be dramatically slashing our supply of vaccines. >> reporter: that will delay what epidemiologists want: herd immunity, the ultimate booster shot for a post-covid america. >> brennan: mark strassmann reporting from augusta, georgia, this morning. scott pelley sat down with the chairman of the federal reserve, jerome powell, for an update on the state of this economy. >> what we're seeing now is really an economy that seems to be at an inflection point, and that's because of widespread vaccination and strong monetary policy support. we feel like we're at a place where the economy is about to start growing much more quickly and job creation coming in much more quickly. so the principle risk to our economy right now is
really that the disease would spread again. you know, it is going to be smart if people can continue to socially distance and wear masks. >> brennan: scott pelley's interview with jerome powell airs tonight on "60 minutes". we go now to house speaker nancy pelosi. she joins us from capitol hill. good morning, madam speaker. >> good morning to you, and congratulations. >> brennan: thank you very much. as our viewers can see, baby on the way here. i wanted to ask you about that rosy settlement from the federal reserve chairman. $6 trillion has already been spent to get us to this point. isn't the momentum that he is talking about a reason that we don't need to spend trillions more, like president biden is asking you to figure out how to do? >> no, it isn't at all. if you listen very closely to what he said, we're at a place where we will begin to see, we will begin to see, and then he
also cautions against a surge in the virus. if we're going to grow the economy with confidence, we've got to crush the virus. they are definitely related. so we begin to see a recovery in our economy is quite different from what mitch mcconnell was saying, that the economy has taken off like a rocket. no. we'll begin to see, again, related to the virus. it is exciting to see people thinking we're out and this and that, but crowded venues and no mask-wearing and the rest are not a positive sign about how we crush the virus. so i think that we have to, again, listen to the science. the science and the governance of how we get this done. and then, of course, it will open the doors for our economy to grow. >> brennan: well, on the specifics of how the president wants to see the
economy grow, with this $2.5 trillion package, he is asking -- you have a democratic majority, it is a slim one, and you can only really afford to lose about two democrats. what concrete proposals can you offer to get republicans on board with this jobs and infrastructure package? >> public sentiment is everything. lincoln said that. the public understands that the worst and most expensive maintenance is no maintenance. and we have to maintain our roads, our bridges, our mass transit. we have to upgrade our water systems. we have to build out our broadbands for distance learning and telemedicine and the rest of that. so we have a big responsibility and a big need, to the tune of trillion of dollars, according to the american society of civil engineers. this is very important -- >> brennan: what you just laid out there does
have republican support. it is the rest of the package that republicans are largely objecting to. can you trim this down to focus on just the portions youoyou outlined there, the roads, the bridges --,. >> no. because infrastructure is about education, getting kids healthily in school, about investments in houses as well -- overruling this bill is about infrastructure in the traditional sense of the word. we also think that infrastructure, there is a need for workforce development in order to have the workforce fully participate en h in how we go forward, and child care. so it is physical infrastructure and human infrastructure that is involved. and the figure that they used is a ridiculous one to say that it is just a small percentage of the bill. it is overwhelming what
the legislation is about, and some newer versions of how we build the infrastructure in a way that takes building back better. it means we're all going down the path together. >> brennan: as we talked about there, you have a slim majority, so to keep the progressives in your party happy, they are pushing to actually make it bigger, not to slim it down. they're pushing you as well on paid family and medical leave. i know you continue to say you are committed to making those things permanent -- >> yes. >> brennan: -- but that is not in these white house proposals. when do you pla plan to put those things in a bill to make those things permanent. >> the president has talked about traditional legislation, the families bill that would have issues that would relate to lowering the cost of prescription drugs by having a negotiation for lower prices, about family and medical leave being made permanent. and, of course, i want to make the child tax credit permanent as well. >> brennan: when? >> that is all a matter of
conversation as we go forward. i have no doubt we will have a great bill in the house. i hope it will be bipartisan. i have been in congress long enough to remember when bipartisanship was not unusual. and actually building infrastructure has never been a partisan issue. they made it partisan under president obama by shrinking the bill. hopefully the need is so obvious now that republicans will vote for it. we'll see. i'm not -- the door is open. our hand is extended. let's find out where we can find our common ground. we always have a responsibility to strive for bipartisanship. >> brennan: so no date on that. let me ask about infrastructure at the capitol. it has been three months since the january 6th siege. how much longer can you wait before putting forth the supplemental bill to do all the things you say are necessary to protect the capitol hill? >> we'll put it forth when it is ready, and it is just about ready now.
there was a great deal of review of requests of organizations and entities that had spent money on that day, january 6th, the day of the insurrection incited by the president of the united states -- who would ever suspect such a thing -- so there were costs associated then. but now costs associated with building and hardening the windows and the doors that the capitol put forth by the architects of the capitol. >> brennan: can you do that -- and i read that report. it was just incredibly detailed and scathing, frankly. can you really wait -- >> we're not waiting. >> brennan: -- or can you did something now? >> no. no. we're are ready to go forth. i'm talking about honorary suggestions about what is needed. and there has been a report about sho shortcomings
in the capitol police that must be addressed. i think we're right now at a good place. again, we're talking about money, and we want to make sure it is the appropriate amount, nothing less than we need but nothing more than we need and appropriately prioritized to, gain, open up the capitol so that it is the temple of democracy that it is, that people can come and be there with adequate protection so that they can do so safely. and the appropriations committee had that responsibility in addition to the committees of jurisdiction and the house of administration, etc. we're in a good place and we feel -- how can i say it -- we think that it is the appropriate prioritizing that we're putting forward. but legislation is always a conversation. >> brennan: yes. we'll stay tuned for that. the house ethics committee has opened an investigation into congressman matt gaetz, as you know, for a laundry
list of allegations. are you going to wait for the committee report, or do you think it is time for him to resign right now? >> it is up to the republicans to take responsibility for that. we, in the congress, in the house, have rule 23, which says in the conduct of our duties, we are not to bring dishonor to the house of representatives. i think there has been a clear violation of that, but it is up to the ethics committee to investigate that. and it is up to the republican leader, mr. mccarthy, to act upon that behavior. but we're hopeful that other things in the congress, rather than that -- wc about what can happen to our economy if we crush the virus. what the president has put forth is quite transformative for our country so that we can, as he said -- help is on the way, help is here. we'll build back better. >> brennan: speaker
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to it now? >> well, it is a very different proposal, obviously. something less than 6%, as you mentioned, of this proposal that president biden has put forward is
actually focused on infrastructure. the national association of manufacturers has said we will probably lose over a million jobs if this is enacted. and you are certainly going to see, in addition to the corporate tax increases in the bill, you'll see middle class tax increases. this is a pattern we watched the democrats use time and again, where they massively increase spending, they massively expand the size and scope of the federal government, and they come back around and impose middle class tax increases. those are things that we don't support. >> brennan: the national association of manufacturers saying we'll use a million jobs, was specifically targeting the tax rate going to 28%. is that an area you're focusing on. if speaker pelosi says we'll go down to 25%, for example, is that something you can work with? >> look, the bill would need to be fundamentally redone. it would need to actually focus on infrastructure,
not on so many of the additional green new deal spending priorities, spending priorities that are focused on helping democratic allies around the country. we have already, as you pointed out, appropriate prateed trillions of dollars since january, and last year as well. i'm really concerned about the impact on the economy, with this additional injection of cash. and so much of it is unnecessary. 6% is actually focused on the kind of infrastructure that there is bipartisan support for. so i would urge democrats let's focus on that. >> brennan: senator portman said 20% of the bill, if you're generous, is on infrastructure. you're putting it even lower at 6%. on the question of paid leave, which is something that speaker pelosi said is a long-term goal of hers, is that something you can get on board with? >> look, margaret, i think there are fundamental differences in how the democrats and the republicans approach the
economy. we know we've got to enact policies that will help spur this economic recovery, policies that are going to create jobs, policies that are not going to expand the federal government so it is involved in every aspect of our life. >> brennan: but that was so key when it came to female ployment employment -- >> i think it is very important for us to provide opportunity for everyone. i think one of the things that democrats often do is they try to segment women out and say these are the women's issues. i think women need to be in a position where they know their elected officials are doing everything possible to keep them safe, to keep the nation safe, to get their kids back in school. if you want to talk about what is really going to help women get back to work, it is getting schools open again. and speaker pelosi four times now, since january, has blocked the reopen schools act from consideration on the house floor. those are the kinds of things we ought to be focused on.
>> brennan: former speaker john boehner was just on cb cbs "sunday morning" saying january 6th should have been a wake-up call for your party. he doesn't understand why more of your party didn't speak up. you did speak up. was separating yourself worth the risk? >> look, january 6th was clearly an attack that was an attempt to stop the counting of the electoral votes. we're not in a good place, and it is her responsibility to create a commission, a bipartisan commission to study what happened. to understand what the provocation was and to make sure it never happens again. every after major crisis, whether it is 9/11 -- >> brennan: thought support for the version that she put forward -- >> well, the version she put forward was not bipartisan. it was very heavily partisan towards the democrats.
it shouldn't be a partisan issue. you had 140 national security officials from republican and democratic administrations sending a letter to congress saying we need a commission. i think that's the single, most important thing we need to do to make sure that kind of attack never happens again. >> brennan: unfortunately, last night the former president seemed to be talking in a proud way about the crowd size on january 6th. he gave a speech at mar-a-lago. he talked about president biden pence not doing more to stop the election certification. according to reports in the "times" and the "post." so he is the best messenger for the party? >> the former president is using the same language he knows provoked violence on january 6th. as a party, we need to be focused on the future. we need to be focused on embracing the constitution, not
embracing insurrection. i think it is very important for people to realize that a fundamental part of the constitution, and of who we are as americans, is the rule of law, the judicial process. the election wasn't stolen. there was a judicial process in place. if you attack the judicial process and you attack the rule of law, you aren't defending the constitution; you're at war with the constitutions. constitution. we have to embrace the constitution and put forward positive solutions. we have to be the party of hope, of aspiration, of inspiration, the party that recognizes and understands that the taxes need to be low, the government needs to be limited in size, a strong national defense, though substantive things, not the party of insurrection. >> brennan: speaker pelosi just said it is up to your party to take responsibility for congressman matt gaetz who is undergoing an ethics investigation. are you ready to call for his resignation? or are you going to wait? >> as the mother of daughters, the charges
certainly are sickening. and as the speaker noted, there is an ethics investigation under way. there are also criminal investigations under way. and i'm not going to comment further on that publicly right now, margaret. >> brennan: were you surprised at these allegations. >> i'm not going to comment further, margaret. >> brennan: well, he is one of your chief critics, so i needed to offer you that opportunity. >> thank you for the opportunity, margaret. [laughter] >> brennan: all right. congresswoman, we will leave it there. we'll be back with a lot more "face the nation." stay with us.
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