tv Charlie Rose The Week PBS February 27, 2016 5:30am-6:01am PST
>> rose: welcome to the program. i'm charlie rose. the program is "charlie rose: the week." just ahead, donald trump with victories pulls away from the pack. tim cook makes his case in apple's battle with the the f.b.i. and actor kevin spacey is back just in time for the election year. >> you have no idea what it means to have nothing. you don't value what we have achieved. i have had to fight for everything my entire life. >> rose: we will have those stories and more on what happened and what might happen. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by:
>> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications >> rose: and so you began how? >> life keeps happening. >> rose: is it luck at all or is it something else? >> you try to recreate yourself. >> rose: what's the object lesson here? >> to be humbled by what i do. >> rose: tell me the significance of the moment. >> rose: this was the week donald trump solidified his lead in the republican presidential race. senate republicans blocked hearings on any supreme court candidate nominated by the president. and david bowie was remembered in tributes at london's brit awards. here are the sights and sounds of the past seven days. >> the u.s. and russia announced that a cessization of hostilities in syria. >> rose: zika cases climb. >> 14 cases may have been sexually transmitted. >> rose: the president moves
to close gawande. jeb bush drops out of the race. >> we love nevada. thank you. >> donald trump takes nevada. >> democrats looking to sway voters in south carolina. >> president obama considering a republican nominee. bryann sandoval to fill vacancy on the supreme court. >> apple c.e.o. tim cook speaking out. >> if we knew ways to do this, we would obviously do it. >> trump taking fire from mitt romney over his unreleased tax returns. >> i think we have good reason to believe there's a bombshell in donald trump's taxes. >> astronaut scott kelly ending ndhis nearly yearlong mission in space. >> i could go another year, if i had to. >> then he saw donald trump's poll numbers and said, "you know, i'm good up here." ♪ ♪ >> and the winner is... adele.
>> adele has stolen the show at this year's brit awards. >> you are all so kind to me. it's so nice ♪ you can dance >> 10 six-year-old virginia mcclawren danced her way right into the white house. >> the next generation of robots look so much like humans it's kind of scary. ♪ ♪ >> rose: donald trump is proving himself the man to beat in the cam for the republican nomination and the other candidates, therefore, have turned up the heat. thursday night's republican debate turned into a kind of cage match as both marco rubio and ted cruz tore into the front-runner. >> you have many different plans. you'll have competition. you'll have so many different plans. >> now he's repeating himself. >> no, no, no. i don't repeat myself.
here's the guy who repeats himself. i don't repeat myself. >> you repeat yourself every day. ( cheers and applause ). >> i-- talking about repeating. i watch him repeat himself five times four weeks ago and i want to tell you-- >> i saw you repeat yourself five times five seconds ago. he says five things, everyone is done, we'll make america great again, win, win, win. every night. >> rose: trump has exceed everyone's expectations dependent his own by turning in impressive wins in south carolina and nevada, and now turns to the delegate-rich super tuesday primarys. the question is can anybody stop him? for that and more i'm joined frm washington by ed o'keefe, who is covering the campaign for the "washington post." ed, thank you for joining us. >> great to be with you, charlie. >> rose: so chris christie, who has suspended his campaign, has endorsed donald trump. are you surprised? what do we read into this?
>> charlie, i'm not surprised by anything that's going on in this campaign anymore. i think what we read into this is, remember, throughout his campaign, christie was critical but never took his criticisms or his attacks on trump as far as others did and reminded people that they'd had a friendship for quite some time. this may also beab attempt to sort of say to his party, look, we have to accept the fact that the people have spoken, and trump is emerging as our leader and we need to fall in behind him. >> rose: so exactly where is the republican nomination fight? we've got super tuesday coming up. then march 15, we've got a series of big states as well. where is the fight? is it the last moment that the establishment or those anti-trump people in the republican party can stop him? >> it pretty much is, charlie, at this point. i mean, if you can't do it by march 15, it's all but said and done. on tuesday you have 11 states voting with 595 delegates up for grabs. but march 15 is the second
biggest day on the calendar, and those are winner-take-all contests. you have 350 delegates at stake what night. if you are marco rubio, you need to win florida. if you're john kasich, you need to win ohio. and if you don't and donald trump does, everyone else pack up and go home. >> rose: what about the debate that was on thursday night? i've never seen marco rubio so aggressive in terms of donald trump. is it a sense that we're way behind here and we better do something dramatic, unless we do something now, trump will get this nomination? >> well, that's part of it, charlie, for sure. i think there's an understanding if not now, when? but if this chris christie news is as big as we all think it is through the weekend, very quickly, the thursday night debate performance might be over. >> rose: so it might be over after super tuesday? >> it very well could be. if trump goes 11 for 11. if rubio isn't able to stop him in virginia, if cruz can't stop
him in texas. that is probably why you see kasich still in twhy you see rubio and cruz hanging on so far. but if they lose in exwargs faction on tuesday night fcruz does in texas, i think it will be hard for him to continue on. >> rose: we have more this week on the legal battle between apple and the government over the security features of the iphone. apple's refusal to unlock an iphone used by one of san bernardino's terrorists has pitted privacy rights against national security needs in a case that may ultimately find its way to the supreme court. here are two opinions from two highly respected figures in the technology world. >> if government is blind, then things like tax evasion, child pornography, and perhaps most
importantly, terrorism enabled by nuclear, biological weapons, then our government isn't able to fulfill some role of stopping those things. >> rose: right. >> what apple is saying is if there is precedent where a government organization comes in and tells them, "build some software for us to do effectively spying on our own citizens" who's to say it won't happen again and again and again. >> rose: representing apple in the case is a former solicitor general of the united states, ted olson. >> we know they are seeking it in other places -- the same relief-- in other places, in other cases throughout the united states. cyrus vance told you last week, the district attorney of new york, that he had 175 cell phones that he wanted the same remedy to peek into. he wanted want the structure of the cell phone to be changed to make it a defective device, not the device that apple designed, so that they can hack into the system. this is-- this is potentially
happening everywhere, and while the justice department is saying-- and the f.b.i. is saying, "we only want to break the rules this one time" it is simply not true. and it would set a precedent that could happen anywhere, any time, not just in this country but in other parts of the world. >> rose: let me tell you what they have said to me, representatives of law enforcement. they have said that simply they want this one time only, and they're perfectly prepared for the process to go forward, make an exception in this one case because of the high-security reasons, and let the process go forward all the way to the supreme court if necessary. >> well, we know that they're trying the same device-- the same mechanism in other places in the country. they are asking the same thing. we have to stand up for constitutional principles here. if they're willing to say that they are willing to stop at this one situation and wait for a definitive ruling from the united states supreme court, that would be another thing. i would like to see them say
that in writing to the judge in san bernardino. >> rose: you have never heard that from anybody on the side of the f.b.i., law enforcement, and the justice department, that they'd be willing to consider that? >> i have never heard that from them. i have heard them saying, "this is just this once." but we know if that if they're successful here in this court, that this could-- same thing could be done anywhere. >> rose: are there no circumstances in which apple would allow, no matter what the protection that's given to them, no ?aerkz which apple will allow itself to enter this phone on national security grounds, not one single exception? >> charlie, i can't imagine all of the exceptions that you might have in your mind or how the justice department, but remember this-- they're asking apple, a private company, to redesign their system. they were to ask you, "charlie,
redesign your program or redesign the cameras that you use in your business so we can listen in to somebody, put your talents to work. put your energy to work to recreate a system so that the government will have an access to what you do," you would be-- you would be stunned by that. this is unpress departmented. this is a constitutional government. they do not have the right to do that sort of thing, except under, perhaps, exceptional circumstances. and they decided one more thing. they were going to ask congress for a change in the law that might authorize them to do this. they had legislation that was approved by the justice department to go forward to congress. they pulled it for some reason. they did not want congress to consider this issue. and it should. >> rose: after growing tierld of reading books about white boys and their dogs, one young
student decided to take action. 11-year-old marley dias from new jersey created the hashtag #100blackgirlbooks, to make a change. what is it about you? we're all in love with you. young, old, every race, every nationality. >> thank you. >> rose: whether it's jamaican or american. how do you explain marley? >> i really explain my mother and my father. like their combination, my dad's creativity, and my mother's drive kind of just created me, so, yeah. >> rose: tell me about the book project. you really did realize that there were no books-- all the books were about white boys and their dogs. >> yes. >> rose: and you wanted to see books about? >> black girls and them being the main characters and not the side kick out of the trio, or anything like that. > well, i told my mom, and she said, what, are you going to do about it?" so we started a book drive in
which black girls upon the main characters in the book. we gave them to the school she went to and we're also planning on giving them to my elementary school and a school in philadelphia. >> rose: how do you decide which hairdo you like in the morning? >> it depends how i feel. if i feel i want to be free and excited or happy, i wear my hair out. so sometimes i have to keep it one way so it becomes curly like this. my hair was in braids a couple of days ago and i took it out yesterday so it would be curly like this. >> rose: what do your classmates say about all the fame you're getting? >> they're proud of me. i try to separate the difference between marley on tv and marley at home. i don't want anyone to feel jealous. i still want them to be my friends. >friends. >> rose: you are not getting big headed. >> i'm trying not to. >> rose: you don't say, "i'm marley. i'm on tv. they write stories about me. an." >> my baby-sitter didn't know i was on tv because i didn't tell
her. she said, "why didn't you tell me?" i told her i didn't want to be selfish or big headed. i still wanted to be humbled by what i do. >> rose: roger angell is the only writer to be inducted into both the baseball hall of fame and the american academy of arts and letters. he's also a longtime contributor to "the new yorker" magazine. his new book say collection of his essays and writings, reflections on 10 decades of life and aging." it is called "this old man all in pieces." >> it's a great misconception, maybe, that since we are gray and move slowly we've geffen up. and i don't think that's true of most people my age, and life keeps happening. >> rose: did this really
resonate with people your age? >> enormously, enormously. >> rose: that life keeps happening. >> i say somewhere in there that one phenomenon that all people get to notice is if you're in conversation, if you're at a dinner party, you're among friends, the moment comes and you think of something, and you speak, a then everybody looks at you and nods and the conversation goes on as if you hadn't said anything. and you say, "what? didn't i just speak? did i say something here?" it's the invisibility of age. and behind that there's, "he's old. he's had his turn. now it's our turn." and i think that this-- of book, this collection, in some way, has helped people feel a little less invisible because i'm saying things that i'm sure all of them -- >> that they recognize but haven't expressed. >> yes, yes. >> rose: that's what good writers do, they give expression to other people's thoughts? >> and writing, there is some people for whom it is a lot easier than others. >> rose: and it's hard for you. >> it's not hard-- not as hard
as it used to be. it used to be very hard for me to start a piece. i would have an enormous end-of-the-season baseball thing to do on the world series and a lot of other things and all this stuff. and i would freeze. and i would say, "i can't do this." but this was something-- this was something in my unconscious about performance. can i cothis sort of thing? and after a while i think i learned that i can do this sort of thing. so the start isn't as hard as it used to be. >> rose: what was it about baseball and writing about baseball players that you found stories of life? >> the thing about baseball is, unlike other sports, it's linear. one thing happens then another thing happens and then another thing happens. in most sports several things are happening at the same time, you think of basketball or hockey or football. in baseball you can see something leading to something else, something about to happen, or if this happens, then this will happen. which is much more like reading. it's much more linear.
it's a series of events. and it can be terrifically boring. the early innings are boring, but there are stretches of books that are boring that you keep going because you know probably down the line this is going to turn into something pretty interesting or sometimes amazingly interesting, and more often than you expect something you have never seen before in your life. it happens all the time. you say, "i have never seen that before." or "i've never seen that play before." >> rose: kamasi washington is a central figure in the resurgent los angeles jazz scene, but that is not all. he has worked with a wide range of talent, including herbie
hancock, snoop dogg, lauryn hill, and kendrick lamar, the saxophonist's latest album is titled "the epic." the three-hour studio album is drawing rave reviews from both the critics and the general public. >> jazz has a very wide spans of possibilities and sometimes you can kind of get lost in it. one thing i learned from playing other styles of music was the importance of some of the subtleties that are more like a microscopic view of something. when i took that kind of approach and applied it to the wide expanse of jazz, it really kind of opened me up and opened up my possibilitys. they really become endless. >> rose: your dad introduced you to the saxophone? >> yeah, yeah. music in general. he started me playing music when i was three years old. it was my whole life. >> rose: is he a musician? >> a saxophonist, yes. >> rose: how is that to have your father there?
>> it's beautiful, it's beautiful. i grew up idolizing him and his friends and i also wished other people could hear him-- not just him, but him and his friends and the whole sound of l.a. that was around when i was coming up. >> rose: you say the beauty of music is in the search. >> yeah, absolutely. music is-- it's never ending. you know, and it's basically, you know, when you're trying to create music, you're trying to recreate yourself. when you create music you kind of look at yourself, and you end up advancing yourself in a way. >> rose: you have described writing a song as going into a dark room to look for an unexpected treasure. >> yeah, because music, you know, people don't realize as a musician, we take the credit, but it comes from somewhere else. and so what happens is -- >> where does it come from? >> i don't know where it comes from. but i know that, like, it's almost like there are melodies and there are sounds and there are ideas that are, like,
floating around. as a musician, when i go to write music, i have to get myself in a certain head space, and it is like being in a dark room that you're very familiar with, the more you try to write music. and you start to learn-- but you're always looking for that gem you have never found before. you're just searching around, "i've been here before. i've been here before. i've never been over here. oh, wow, what is this thing?" it comes to you and you take this thing and turn it into something that you can share with other people. >> rose: where is jazz in the music marketplace today? >> well, i think jazz has been trapped in a poor image. and i think that has been trapped in this image of something that is an historic relic. it's made for some other purpose other than to just enjoy. upon upon and i think it's a music that's-- its the reverse. it's such an expressive music. and when you hear jazz, you
really hear a commiewn of people who are expressing themselves together, and i think that freedom, once you get into it, that's why you rarely find someone who says, "i used to be into jazz but not anymore." once you get it, it stays with you. >> rose: television viewers might be seeing a lot of kevin spacey's work in coming weeks. both as an actor and as a producer. season four of his political drama "house of cards" will be released on netflix thursday, and beginning next month, his new documentary series "race for the white house," begins the run on cnn. >> it seems to me that, you know, we could go back a long ways and say we have been fascinated by political figures, by royalty. just think about shakespeare.
and, obviously, frank underwood was born out of shakespeare. he was based -- michael dobson, who wrote the book-- based on richard iii. not mack beckett, because mcbeth hez taitses. if you ignore the conniving, he does get things done. and i think that's why people have been attracted to the show, not just in the united states but around the world. >> rose: do you think the image of that is part of the reason that donald trump seems attractive to so many people? he appears to be willing to say anything, do anything, and get things done if you buy into his own sense of who he is. >> well, there's no doubt that he's-- he seems to have burrowed into an angry public. >> rose: but looking for someone. >> i guess just looking for someone who does it differently.
i suppose there is an interesting similarity there. apparently, i'm told this is true, there are a great number of people in china who believe i actually am the president of the united states. t >> rose: what's going to happen this time? he's-- she's out of the house. we get that from the promo. they are split. we meet-- >> we meet them as we left them in season three, having a little bit of an argument. >> rose: yes! >> look, the thing we've been loving exploring and continue to do so this now fourth season and we've got some terrific actors that have joined the cast, ellen burstyn, sicily tyson. >> rose: may have campbell. >> yes. and we're going to continue to explore what happens when two people are in the middle of a campaign, and they have this marital strife and how do they deal with it? and, you know, will they ultimately decide that they are better off together, are they stronger? or are they better off apart? >> rose: is that one of the
questions being asked by season four of "house of cards." are they better off together or apart? >> sure. >> rose: who's the toughest, her or him? >> i think so she is formidable, and he would be nothing without her. >> rose: what does she give him? >> everything. i think she gives-- also, i think she gives him balance in lot of ways that he couldn't foond on his own. if you want to call it the classic story behind every-- i don't know if i want to call him a great man because there are people who think he's more machiavellian than that, but certainly this remarkable woman, and i think that robin's extraordinary portrayal will continue to grow and continue to fascinate and continue to confound people as it goes forward. >> rose: here is a look at the week ahead. sunday is the 88th annual
academy awards o abc. monday is leap day. tuesday is super tuesday with presidential primaries and caucuses in 13 states. wednesday is the day astronaut scott kelly and cosmonow the mikhail carn yerchgo are scheduled to return from a year on the international space station. thursday is the republican presidential debate on fox news. friday is the day davis cup play begins with the u.s. team visiting australia. saturday is the world pastry championships in corned wall, englan and here is what's new for your weekend. the sequel to "crouching tiring, hidden dragon" is released in imax theaters and on netflix. >> such fewer neone so young.
>> rose: mclemore and ryan lewis have a new album out, "this unruly mess i've made." d rihanna has concert dates in san diego and san jose. >> rose: that's "charlie rose: the week" for this week. on behalf of all of us here, thank you for watching. i'm charlie rose. we'll see you next time. >> rose: funding for "charlie >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by:
funding for arthur is provided by: when you encourage your children to learn, wonderful things can happen. abcmouse.com early learning academy-- proud sponsor of pbs kids and arthur. and by contributions to your pbs station from: ♪ every day when you're walking down the street ♪ ♪ everybody that you meet has an original point of view ♪ (laughing) ♪ and i say hey hey! ♪ what a wonderful kind of day ♪ ♪ if we could learn to work and play ♪ ♪ and get along with each other ♪ ♪ you got to listen to your heart, listen to the beat ♪