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this morning. we'll, of course, have the latest news read tonight at the ktvu news at six. and on the 10 o'clock news. you can always check out the ktvu news app to in your app store. news app to in your app store. >> bret: i'm bret baier. a nation divided over some of the biggest issues of our time raises questions about the future of americans freedom, security, and democracy itself. ♪ ♪ >> january 6th was the culmination of an attempted coup. violence was no accident. >> bret: on capitol hill, a house panel laying the blame for what happened at the u.s. capitol on january 6th on donald trump while republicans claim the committee lacks credibility. >> it is permanent we damaged the house and divided this country. >> bret: divided over guns. >> our everyday problems. >> bret: as the country faces mass shootings at schools,
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supermarkets, and workplaces, divided over abortion. as congress considers what action to take after a threat on supreme court justice brett kavanaugh's life escalates fears of violence. we will ask them a critic senator chris coons, a close ally of president biden, about the bill he is sponsoring to extend security and protection for justices' families. then arkansas republican governor asa hutchinson joins us to discuhe prospects for finding common ground on guns and abortion. and, we will ask her sunday panel what it will take to raise the level of political discourse in this country. plus, "fox news sunday" is on the road to the midterms ie pivotal swing state of nevada ahead of another round of primaries. all right now on "fox news sunday." ♪ ♪ >> bret: angelo again from fox news in washington. it was a week of major challenges for everyday
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americans and the elected officials responsible for steering the ship of state. hear about the capital right memories of a mob of protesters attacking police and trying to stop the certification of a lawful election. marchers gathered in washington to push fon control in response to the massacre at a texas elementary school. inflation rose again in the average price of gas hit a inful $5 a gash gallon nationwide. the challenges facing the nation hittg the white house heart is present by the struggles to push his agenda midway through the primary season. in a moment we will speak with democratic senator chris coons about his party's struggles, but first let's turn to lucas tomlinson live at the white house for a look at how the biden administration is responding. lucas. >> bret, president biden wants to make gun control a central issue in the upcoming midterm elections. protesters around the country want action now. >> we are just simply here to
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say enough is enough. >> thousands gathered on the national mall and in cities across the country following mass shootings in buffalo, uvalde, chattanooga, and philadelphia. so far, no agreement has been reached on capitol hill for new gun-control legislation. also unfinished, a final bill of protections for supreme court justices and their families. house speaker nancy pelosi under new pressure to pass the measure after an armed man was arrested for saying he wanted to kill associate justice brett kavanaugh. >> endanger over over the weekend because of -- >> the long-awaited hearing invested in the violence of the capitol on january 6th aired in prime time with millions watching. republican committee vice chair liz cheney saying trump bears responsibility and pressed lawmakers who have stood by him. >> i say this to my republican colleagues who are defending the indefensible. there will come a day when
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donald trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain. >> all this against the backdrop of crushing inflation. the labor department saying it jumped to 8.6% in may. >> the economy is in a better place than it has been historically. >> it's a tough sell. the gas prices now the highest in american history, crossing the $5 threshold early saturday. in contrast, bidens approval numbers now tying his record low at 33%. president biden confirmed he will be going to saudi arabia next month. he claims it's not because of oil, but for national security. bret. >> bret: lucas tomlinson reporting from the white house. lucas, thank you. joining us now, democratic senator chris coons of delaware, the president 's homestay. welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> senator coons: great to be on with you, bret, thank you. >> bret: lucas' piece, this week a man called police on himself saying he wanted to kill supreme court justice brett kavanaugh.
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he did that outside kavanaugh's home armed and prepared to do it. you cosponsor this bill last month to beef up security for supreme court justices and their family, but the house has not moved on the bill for 30 days. you heard house speaker nancy pelosi in lucas' piece reference there's no problem here, there's protection for the justices, nobody is going to get harmed over the weekend. but what about that and what is the hold up? >> senator coons: bret, i was grateful for the chance to work with senator cornyn. we got the bill unanimously through the united enough things get through the senate with the kind of uniform universal support that that bill enjoyed. the house is working to add a provision that would allow the marshal of the supreme court to decide to extend protection to of the supreme court.s of staff i think that's appropriate, that's an acceptable come from eyes. more than anything i think the house needs to take it up and
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pass it early next week, and i'm optimistic after several conversations with house leadership that they will. frankly, as you also referenced he introduction, bret, the january 6th hearing that just took place was a riveting reminder of the dangers of politically motivated violence in our country and the gun massacres, the shootingst happened at a grocery storin buffalo and at an elementary school in uvalde are also a call to action and i'm grateful to be working with senator cornyn as a part of a broad bipartisan group that's working to address mental health and gun safety as well. >> bret: going to get to both of those other things and just a minute, but staying on this particular fame, there is already a federal statute on the books that makes it illegal to protest in front of a judge's home. it is title 18, section 1507. these groups published the conservative justices' addresses online, they've been protesting nightly. should they be arrested?
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>> senator coons: look, bret, we have to strike the right balance here between protecting freedom of speech in this country and ensuring that our justices and judges are safe. we passed a bill through the senate months and months ago that would also provide further protections obscuring the addresses, for example, of justices and judges. that is something we took up in the wake of a horrifying attack on the family of a federal court judge in new jersey where her son was killed. i do think we need to take stronger action to make sure that our federal judiciary is safe because that's part of making sure our democracy is safe, which really is the core issue of the january 6th hearings, how do we make sure that the fundamentals of our democracy, the safety and security of congress, the peaceful transfer of power and i would also at the safety and security of our federal judiciary is insured, we should ask. >> bret: we are getting ready for this ruling, controversial matter what happens, if it
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matches the draft -- leaked track opinion or not. there is this one on the books i'm just asking, should they follow the law? to the attorney general say yes, restless people before something happens? >> senator coons: bret, i think if the leaked version of the opinion is matched by what would be a remarkable act of judicial activism, conservative judicial activism, there will be understandable anger across the nation. as an elected official of certain have protests out front of my house. many of us have who serve in congress and other elected offices, but we need to make sure that all appropriate actions aring taken to ensure the safety of members of our federal judiciary, including supreme court justices. >> bret: okay, so don't arrest the protesters based on the title, that's what you're say saying. >> senator coons: bret, let's be clear. i didn't say don't arrest protesters, i'm simply saying that all appropriate action should be taken to ensure the
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safety of the supreme court justices, and i'm not going to say thisrotester or that protester ought to be arrested. i just think that that's a judgment call to be made by law enforcement, not by a senator on a show. >> bret: understood, but they haven't been arrested yet and nobody has for protesting outside these judges' homes that were published online, only this conservative justices. i want to also ask you, the president hasn't said anything publicly about this specific threat about supreme court justice kavanaugh, the white house press secretary said a couple of things in a gaggle to reporters for the president condemns violence of any kin which of the president have said something publicly about this? >> senator coons: bret, the president has repeatedly spoken out against politically motivated violence in our country. the risk of politically motivated violence in our country. and as you well know, presidents often speak more through their press secretaries to events of the day. i certainly have denounced this
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latest threat against justice kavanaugh, it's important that we remember there are threats of political violence of many kinds and types. folks who are watching this morning who didn't watch the january 6th hearing should take a few moments and review what congresswoman liz cheney, an unimpeachable he conservative from wyoming, to say in her opening statement. i think there are risks of political violence we should all be speaking out against and acting to ensure we control, manage, and produce buried >> bret: we're going to talk about january 6th in just a moment. don't you think democrats and the media would possibly, senator, be making more about a threat like this, a specific threat, if it was happening to liberal justices? >> senator coons: well, bret, you have in front of the democrat asked senator who cosponsored with senator cornyn a bill that would provide greater security. >> bret: i'm just saying publicly. >> senator coons: for the families of justices. i don't know how more publicly i
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can say that i think threats of violence against supreme court justices, their families, their clerks, are reprehensible, unacceptable, and we should take action to secure the federal judiciary. >> bret: last thing before we get to january 6. the law has been made this week about words, how much they matter, how much stirring the pot, giving the green light to violence in any way, shape, or form is acceptable. take a listen to this. >> i want to tell you, i want to tell you, kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price! [cheers and applause] you won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions. >> bret: on the steps of the supreme court, did those words qualify, senator? >> senator coons: so here's a key distinction. what senator schumer was saying was that he was upset. he was alarmed, he was concerned at the prospect that justices
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would rse decades of a well-established fundamental constitutional right in our country. what he did not say was let's go attack them. the point of the january 6th hearing is to prove that that is in fact what president trump did, that he, in the words of congresswoman cheney, summoned the mob, stirred up the mob and then lit the fuse that sent them storming the capital of the united states. i do think there's a distinguishable difference between what we just heard from senator schumer and the actions taken by former president trump and his circle of advisors in the days before january 6th. and the results were clear and i think catastrophic. the physical assault of officers that led to several officer deaths and the shattering of the capital perimeter. frankly, as one of the members of the senate who had to be escorted out along with the vice president by capitol police just feet ahead of an angry mob, i do think that we are at risk
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of a season of political violence in this country, and all of us should reduce the temper and level of our rhetoric. >> bret: including nator schumer, who has said the justices released a whirlwind and you will pay the price. you don't see any prm with that kind of language on the supreme court? >> senator coons: that's not what i said. what i just said, bret, was i think all of us need to reduce the level of our rhetoric and be mindful of the fact that stirring up potential violence is not a good or constructive thing to be doing at this moment in ourountry by any political leader. >> bret: you mentioned the prime time hearings and made the case of a january 6 and the importance. the committee obviously had this presentation. "the new york times" said they praised it for its sober approach. there will be many committee hearings to come. t this is also "the new york times." it is clear that the hearings, coming five months before midterm elections in which democrats are bracing for big losses, carry high political
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stakes. are there concerns of politiciza here in your mind, senator? >> senator coons: look, i think what impressed me about those january 6th hearings, about the first hearing that i watched, was how clear and nonpartisan and thoughtful and directed it was. i certainly don't think the congresswoman cheney or kinsinger were trying to impact the midterm election chances of democrats. i think the point here has been to take a hard and clear-eyed look at what happened on januare that they've uncovered about the role of the former presidents close advisors in how they shaped the events that led to that really critical moment in our modern american history. we've never had our capital stormed by americans. we've never had an attempt through an insurrection through a riot to try and interrupt the peaceful transfer of power, and,
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bret, right now i'm working with a bipartisan group of senators to try to make reforms to the electoral count act to mit clear that vice president pence did the right thing on the night of january 6th that no vice president has the power, nor should they, to unilaterally overturn the will of the american people. >> bret: speaking of "the new york times," the paper also had a detailed piecthis weekend entitled "should biden run in 2024." democratic whispers of no start to rise. the paper states they have interviews of dozens of democratic officials and members of congress who backed biden in 2020. "reveal a party alarm about republican rising strength in e extraordinarily pessimistic about an immediate path forward." one dnc committee member is actually quoted as saying mr. biden should announce his intent not to seek reelection in '24 right after the midterms. your close ally. his president biden running in '24, and should he? >> senator coons: yes, he is,
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and i will tell you, bret, it is my understanding -- let me be clear. i'm not speaking on his behalf or announcing a candidacy, i'm just saying that as of now it's president intends to seek a second term, and i understand why. his leadership on the world stage has been impressive. he's just returned from a successful summit of the americas. he's pulled together four critical partners in the indo pacific in a new organization called the quad, a new partnership with allies, and in the face of russia's brutal invasion, their aggression against ukraine, president biden has shown a masterful skill at pulling together the e.u. and nato in order to push back, in order to support ukraine's brave resistance to russian aggres aggression. here at home, his predecessor talked about infrastructure over and over, was never able to get a bill on infrastructure to the floor, and to his desk. president biden signed into law one of the biggest investments in infrastructure in american history and president biden and
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democrats in the senate have a plan for how to reduce prescription drug prices, how to tackle health care costs. i remain optimistic we will get done. the deficit is coming do. he's that clear plans for how to tackle inflation, and he's helping lead the united states to a position of strength on the world stage. i can understand why he might think running for reelection is a good idea. >> bret: okay. last thing. are these with the deficit numbers republicans point out they went way up and covid, it took a dip because of that. but the other thing is saudi arabia. it's being reported now that the president is going to visit saudi arabia. how, senator, cannot not look like a blatant effort just try to get gas prices down? >> senator coons: well, the president is going to the gcc. this is a su that's being hosted by the saudi kingdom that will allow him a chance at one time at one place to meet with a whole range of heads of state from the persian gulf, from the
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middle east. the president, as you know, has decades of experience in foreign policy and i trust his firm hand, his leadership, in this moment. we do need to improve the supply of oil and gas to our western european partners in order to help sustain their support for ukraine's pure ears resistance against russia's invasion and i do expect the president will be addressing both the human rights record of the leadership of saudi arabia and our shared security concerns. our concerns about iran, our concerns about the war in yemen, our concerns about oil a gas supplyt i think this is another moment where the president may wellake significant steps forward in terms of supporting the security of our vital partner, israel, in the region, and of addressing the real threat to security posed by iran and iran's nuclear program. so i'm optimistic that this will be another productive step forward on the world stage but one of america's most seasoned foreign policy leaders,
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president biden. >> bret: thank you, senator coons, alws nice to speak with you. >> senator coons: thank you, bret. if >> bret: up next we will sit down with arkansas republican governor asa hutchinson on the agreement on gun legislation. ♪ ♪ he's no, he's seizing the moment with merrill. moving his money into his investment account in real time and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company. she's smiling because her small culinary supply store, titans pans, is up and running. and this, is nfl star derrick henry, accidentally tagging “titans pans,” instead of his loyal fans. which, very unexpectedly, has her business trending. and trending. and trending. and oh my. das internet auf dem telefon. and there goes the internet. good thing maya uses fedex to help prepare for unexpected demand. because you never know what's next. right now, we're all feelin' the squeeze.
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♪ ♪ >> bret: americans have faced many difficult headlines in recent weeks. a mass shooting at an elementary school, the arrest of of the supreme court, and prime time hearings revisiting the dark kit puts political leadership to the
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test. up joining us now from arkansas, chair of the national governors association asa hutchinson. governor, welcome back to "fews sunday." >> governor hutchinson: always good to be with you, bret. >> bret: january 6th committee this week revealed some of their findings and that prime time hearing. they played new clips from depositions of some of president trump's inner circle. >> i made it clear i did not agree with the idea of seeing the election was stolen and putting out thisff, which i told the president was [bleep]. >> it affected my perspective. my respect to attorney general barr. so i accepted what he was saying. >> bret: they suggest that the former president knew he had lost the 2020 election but was still trying to hold onto power. what's your reaction to the hearing emac >> governor hutchinson: my reaction to the hearing is that it's an important review as to what happened on january 6th. i've always said we need to do this. this is not the most bipartisan
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effort in its, but it is a review that is important. obviously as they present the case, americans see this, and they wa january 6ttackt president trumps criminally trying to make. as bill barr has said, i think that is a heavy lift. i don't see the factual basis for that. if you can make the case, and i would agree, that he is politically,orally responsible but in terms of criminalpened, liability, i think the committee has a long way to go before they can establish that. i think the key thing politically is that the american public does not want us to focus on the past. it's an important review, but i think the democrats make a
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mistake if they simply want to relitigate what they did in the impeachment. it's about the future always and solving problems. we have enough problems to address and that's what the american people want us to focus on to a greater extent. >> bret: you've said this, something like this, before in which you said it's important, republicans have to make sure we are clear that president trump did have some responsibility for that. congresswoman liz cheney was a little bit more pointed on thursday night about republicans and their role. take a listen. >> i say this to my republican colleagues who are defending the indefensible. there will come a day when donald trump i remain. >> bret: "the wall street journal" put it this way. mr. trump betrayed his supporters by conning them on january 6th, and he is s doing it. "the wall street journal" editorial board. so my question, senator -- governor, is what is the future
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of the republican party on this? and on republican leadership? >> governor hutchinson: well, i hope that the future of the republican party is different than former president trump leadership. i hope we move in a different direction. i believe that what happened on january 6th is a lot at his feet. it was w for our country and for him to continue to push that theory i agree is the wrong direction for the republican party. i think as many republicans that are looking for an off-ramp, new opportunities to find leadership in the future. obviously what president trump -- there's a lot of things that he did that were very good, that the base and i agree with, but he got off track in january 6th and that was a costly error forur democracy and i agree with a lot of the comments. he is -- has a responsibility there. we need to make sure that's
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clear. i think republicans need to do a loof soul-searching as to what is the right thing here, what is the right thing to say for our party and our democracy and our future and not simply appeal to the basest instincts of some of our base. >> bret: let's talk policy. up on capitol hill, senate negotiators are in the middle of trying to find some compromise on finalizing bipartisan agreement on a narrow set of goals for gun col proposals. here's what they're looking at. we are told. enhanced school safety, federal support for meal health programs, state incentive red flag laws, extensive back rent checks and raising the minimum purchase age for an ar-15 or the like to 21. arkansas' minimum age to purchase is currently at 18. there are no red flag laws. what about this effort on capitol hill, governor? >> governor hutchinson: well, i applaud the senators for trying to look at this from a
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bipartisan way and find out is there a narrow path that we can better prote our children. it's a discussion that we lutely need to have and i applaud them for doing it. as you know, i joined a letter from the national governors association to create a bipaisan review by governors and part of it is to evaluate what's going to be coming out of the senate, making comments because the governors are going to be the one to implement mental health policy and strengthening that, it's going to be responsible for school safety, so i hope that there is some things that can come out of this. when you look at the age of 21 or 18, there's constitutional issues there, but that has to be part of this discussion, but it's difficult, but it's going to be a narrow path but it's a conversation that is important and governors are willing to engage in that and particularly
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look at what comes out of the senate side. if >> bret: governor, we've seen florida and washington, vermont, california, and hawaii all raise the age to purchase a long gone if there's no deal on capitol hill utterly, would you consider doing that in the shape of arkansas? >> governor hutchinson: no i would not. because you called it a long gone and i believe that somebody who's 1 18 ought to be able to o out there and shoot ducks within long gun and to be able to purchase that. >> bret: you want me to clarify more, an ar-15 or... >> governor hutchinson: yeah, ar-15 style is something that should be part of the conversation versus simply a long gun. that's the challenge that we face. first, california federal judge struck that limitation down as constitutional and then secondly, the definitions, and that's what you've got to really listen to each other and come down -- but the ar-15 style military weapons ought to be a part of the conversation.
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>> bret: to my point they don't tear here on capitol hilln ar-15 in arkansas? >> governor hutchinson: i haven't seen a definition that works at but we will look at that. i have a feeling what you're going to see coming out of the senate is something we need to respond to us governors and i think that's how we would approach it. >> bret: moving to the economy quickly, inflation hit another 4-decade high last month. gas prices as you know continue to store. take a listen to what the president had to say about all that thiweek. >> president biden: today's inflation report confirm what america's already know. putin price hike is hitting america hard. gas prices at the pump, energy and forices account for half of the monthly price increases since may. >> bret: what you make of the president's messaging and leadership on this issue? >> governor hutchinson: i
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listened to his remarks at the of los angeles and they were in fact disappointing. he was engaging in blaming everyone from senator scott to puti he was blaming corporate america, and really did not provide the leadership that is needed during this time. americans want a leader that will lay out challenge that we face, what is the solutions in the directions we need to go. and what we are going to be looking at in october and november of this yea and so i thought the blame game is not presidential. needed. think it's what we arkansans right now are paying $500 or per month than they did in january of 2021 simply because of inflation. this hurts the pocketbook of hardworking americans and what we've heard so far is -- energy is a big driver in this.
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gas prices. and that impacts our agriculture, that impacts our production in every commodity, really, and that's where this president has failed us in effective energy policy that america produces and is independent. >> bret: governor hutchinson, thanks for your time this morning. >> governor hutchinson: good to be with you, bret, thank you. >> bret: up next we will bring in our sunday grip on the fallout the first prime time january 6th hearing with more to come. ♪ ♪ dad, we got this. we got this. we got this. we got this. we got this. yay! we got this. we got this! life is for living. we got this! let's partner for all of it. edward jones
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bring on today with comcast business. powering possibilities.™ >> president trump summoned the mob, assembled the mob, and flipped the flame his attac attack. >> bret: republican congresswoman liz cheney, vice chairman the committee bluntly blaming her president trump. time now for our sunday group. npr national political correspondent mara eliasson. former bush white house advisor fox news contributor karl rove. fox news political analyst juan williams and josh kraushaar of the national journal. mara, what's the fallout from this first prime time hearing? >> i think it follows that committee is laying out a pretty clear case about trump's responsibility, about the fact that many of the participants were set on breaching the
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capital even before president trump spoke. you had that pretty compelling video with the crowd going up before he gave the sh. there's also been some new information about numbers of congress seeking pardons, about what president trump said about hanging mike pence, so i think it's been pretty compelling. how it affects public opinion is unclear, but i think for the historical record, they are laying down a pretty compelling case. >> bret: beasley what's clear, karl, is that there is no opposition side. there is no other side of the story to this committee. >> yeah, so far. i'm with mara. i'm not certain how much it's going to impact public opinion. we did learne new things, but i think we are going to learn the most important things from the trials of the oath keepers and proud boys. if they were in communicn in advance of january 6th with the willard command center, bernie kerik, rudy giuliani, steve bannon, john eastman, we know that the command center wasn't commune occasion acacian with the white house. if the oath keepers and proud boys were in communication with
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the command center it will raise the question of what to the president know and when did he know it. that's going to be i think the key moment. >> bret: chairman bennie thompson has said in an interview that their testimony coming that's going to link to the trump inner circle. but, juan, what about the american public's perception of this, going back to that day and what it mes now? >> i think you can just break it down, we are such a highly polarized country, bret, that if you were to say 40% of the american people just aren't going to change their mind, they are juocked in their perception. high number of republicans continue to say that, you know, trump is the likely nominee next time going around and there's a high perceage of democrats who say trump clearly was a cancer on american body politic, but in between you might haveet's say 20% who might be persuadable. and to our people -- and this comes a ttle bit from the discussion you were having with senator coons -- who are saying well, what's going on in my life now, what about gas prices, what
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about food prices, inflation, immigration, guns? nonetheless, those are people who might hear in these hearings, and they had 20 million people apparently tuning in, might hear things and say you know, this is an attack on democracy itself. democracy was under attack on january 6th. we now have people who are running for office who continue to perpetrate the big lie and you know what, it's a little unsettling, and that my tribe people who would turn out or not turn out in the midterms. >> bret: josh, are we clear what the blueprint is, where they want to go? whether it's criminal charges or just preventing er president trump from running again? >> there wasn't a whole lot new, and think that is both significant on the substance and on the politics. we learned a few details about the proud boys and their planning, but this was more of a documentary. we are reminded of the pain that everyone followed on janua january 6th, and that isn't going to move the political middle a whole lot.
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people are feeling more pain economically, as juan was talking about, then wanting to focus on the past, a painful moment in our past. there may be a pretext for the doj to make a move, but i think this was more a p.r. display an a pretextor legal action by the white house. >> bret: i was struck, and i said this to senator coons, about the lack of talking about this threat to justice kavanaugh in the coverage of it as compared to if this had been a liberal justice with a trump supporter gone wacko outside their house. >> absolutely. this sor personal -- i know ashley and brett kavanaugh personally from our time together in the white house, and it's amazing to me. the law is clear, you quoted it. goes on to say with the intent of influencing any judge, and i love it. the american civil liberties union says the outcome of this is the statue but we interpret at the following way. we point to a supreme court case that suggests that as long as they keep moving in front of the
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house. if they are stationary, they should be arrested but if they are moving in front of the house have a right to try and justice and that is ridiculous and if it is true, i didn't see senator schumer moving very much you had that microphone in front of the u.s. sue court where he had a clear intent of influencing a supreme court justice. we either ought to apply the law or we ought to just simply say it's open seasn judges, because that's what we're doing. >> i think you have a right to protest. speak of but not in front of their house. >> you have a right to protest clearly these people should not iolent and they should not threaten, but the idea that they are influencing -- i don't think it's about the influence. i think it's about a supreme court that's become radical and extremist and activist and is going to put out a decision that's going to, believe me come up otherwise this country. undo 50 years of law. >> so because you disagree with a prospective decision you think people have a right to show up in front of the house and try and intimidate a judge to try and change their -- how about
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any case in america? would you defend everybody's right in front of every judge and say my god, if you decide -- >> karl... >> you deserve me protestin front of your house, that's intimidation. >> no it's not. >> that's banana style republic. >> this guy s suicidal and is no excusing him. >> are not talk about him. >> where talking about -- karl, wait a second. karl. just a second. but i'm saying that we as americans all have a right to express our upset with undoing 50 years of law with regard to abortion. it's an attack on rights. >> bret: but for the groups that publish the addresses of the conservative justices -- >> that's unnecessary. i think everyone at this table has a people demonstrator come to their door and it's unsettling. but he is defending it. but the righ >> but not in front of their house. go happen protest -- >> i'm just telling it in politics that's a reality. >> it's not a good reality. >> no. >> bret: a wake-up call to get
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this bill for the house. >> i think the bill will be passed. supreme court justices deserve security, and they deserve just the safety of being able to live in their house without fear. however, there was a case where a judge of us if he has were shot, killed. the guy who did it did have a dossier on sonia sotomayor, that got very little coverage. so for conservative to ask if this was a liberal judge it would become much a bigger deal. wrong. >> bret: panel, thank you. we will have to take a break here. when we come back we take you on the road to the midterms in the silver state where there's a major shift underway and voters' party registration. ♪ ♪ (vo) while you may not be closing on a business deal while taking your mother and daughter on a once-in-a-lifetime adventure — your life is just as unique. your raymond james financial advisor gets to know you, your dreams, and the way you care for those you love.
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♪ ♪ >> bret: "fox news sunday" is on the road to the midterms ahead of primaries in four states this tuesday. in the swing state of nevada, hit hard bndemic economy, more and bore voters are leaving their political party, registering instead is independents. democrats have lost the most ground in that move so far. fox news congressional correspondent aisha hosni takes us to clark county, where inflation and that scorching summer heat are hitting service workers hard. >> the excessive heat is here to stay as we head into the weekend, 84 degrees outside this morning as temperatures are -- >> to want to go walk? >> let's gr a walk salvador munoz just can't get ahead. >> i never dreamed that i would have to work two jobs to make 32.50 an hour. >> the 36-year-old is a single
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dad working two jobs, including the graveyard shift at a mcdonald's. today, he doesn't know how he will get to work. >> i wasn't able to make it to my second job today because of gas prices. that one thing stopped me. i do still have my night shift coming up that i'm going to be going to work locally, that's only a mile away so even without the car i can make that. >> what you mean without the car you can make that? >> if i had to walk i could deftly dat. >> he's a really great. >> what you think about when you put him to bed at night and go to your shift? >> getting back to him in the morning. >> nevada democrats need voters like salvador. they already have voters like kevin carter, a culinary worker at the mgm grand and proud union member. >> got p$7 for toothpaste at a grocery store?
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like, what went up so drastically on toothpaste to produce it, to ship it, what? >> and his wife tonya don't blame democrats for the problems, they blame corporate america. because that's grocery stores doing that, gas stations. how does gas go up every day or every three or four days, $0.02, $0.03 -- >> $0.05. >> it's insane. >> it's ridiculous. >> nevada has become increasingly competitive. >> hello, nevada. >> often drawing in huge names during presidential campaigns. >> thank you. >> in midterms right now it's a race to the middle with independent and unaffiliated voters becoming the majority. we tried to catch up with incumbent democrat congresswoman suzy lee. to nevada democrats know how to win the toh fights. >> who represents the third. to ask her about all of this. >> the mailbox is full, i cannot
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accept any messages at this time. goodbye. >> but wver could locked on an interview. in a statement, she told us on fighting everyday to bring costs down for families and ensure that they thrive as our economy bounces back and we continue to recover. >> they are not making good decisions. >> we did however speak with her democratic primary challenger randy hines, who doesn't even want to call himself a democrat. >> the only thing that makes a democrat or makes you reican is putting democrat or republican on your voter registration. >> really? >> yeah, that's it that's what i did in order to be on the primary ballot. >> so what are you? what would you call yourself? >> i'm a fiscal conservative, little bit right of center, but i see all of the things that, you know, the social programs that we have -- >> you would run as a centrist if you could? >> if i could. if i could. >> essentially make the cost come down for us a little bit. >> for salvador, it's not about who's a democrat or republican.
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it's about who can deliver. >> what can congress do for a nevada dad that isnking about walking to work because he can't afford gas? >> i mean, what can they do? spend more wisely so that we don't end up paying the price at the end of the day. >> bret: aishah hasnie reporting from nevada. we are back now with the panel. josh, that piece tells a big story. if we have primaries in nevada, maine, north dakota, south carolina, texas special election, but democrats are facing headwinds this election. you have this new poll out showing the president apostate his job approval for everybody sits at 33% approve, disapprove 55% but then you look at independents, this is the quinnipiac poll. 25% approval for president biden. that is not just a headwind, that's a gust. >> these are red wave numbers and any democrat in a swing district, swing state like nevada has got to be watching
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their back, and look, if i had a white board here, i'd say nevada, nevada, nevada is going to be the big bellwether in november. a senate race, governors race, three of the four democratic numbers of congress in tough races that we heard on the segment. it could be a suite for republicans in a state they haven't won at least at the presidential level since 2004. so there's a lot of headwinds the democrat party spacing, the economy is the biggest issue a lot of nevadans having trouble making ends meet. >> bret: since the wboard was mentioned, you get a rebuttal. >> no rebuttal. there's a reason why the numbers 33 and he goes back to something senator coons said when he said inflation is all on putin. inflation was running at 1.4% in january of 2021. it was running at 7.871% in february and when putin invaded ukraine four days before the end of the month, it's now 8.582% in may. that means 90% of the inflation thate have had since the time joe biden took office occurred
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before putin invaded ukraine. 90%. and people fl that. they know that this is not putin. they know this is bad decisions that we made in 2021 by this it administration with the america rescue plan and too much spending. i quote my favorite current democrat economist, "over the last 75 years, every time inflation has exceededand unoyment has been below 5%, the u.s. economy has gone into recession within two years. today inflation is north of 6%, when he wrote it, it's now north of eight and a half and on employment south ourth%, larry summers. we got a recession coming and it will becoming -- >> bret: president obama once told him that his approval ratings tract opposite of gas prices. almost diametrically. just right there. >> inflation defeats presidents and i actually disagree with karl, the american rescue plan might have interviewed it but
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inflation is global. the reasons for it are about supply chains, all bunch of other things. but, the problem is that there are a lot of things that aren't the president's fault but they are his problem. and inflation, which is the single economic indicator that affects people the most every single day. so what if hiring is really on fire, they still have to fill eir car up with gas and inflation is eating whale those wage gains at the white house likes to talk about. so it is a problem, there's very little the president can do. it's up to the fed. often times when the tightens we get a recession. 85% of americans i think in the test quinnipiac poll say they expect there's going to be a recession, so it's a real problem. >> bret: to karl's point, there were red flags and warning signs and flares going up from larry summers and others. >> larry summers all along hits of the american rescue plan was to big and was potentially inflationary, and the fed may be do enough sooner. >> bret: juan, besides the economy, the inflation, there
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are also issues like crime, and you have this recall in the district attorney chase of routine getting recalled in san francisco because of how he's dealing with crime. similar to other places, you may see that in los angeles as well. >> i think crime, again, especially violent c and guns are huge issue right we talk about inflation, we talk about abortion and the potential for anger over that decision but i think there's a lot of frustration with the inability of the political class to do anything when you see children being slaughtered and people in the afternoon supermarket being slaughtered. and so right now there's a sense that there has to be some change, that people are looking for change. there's a lot of resentment out there. i think we've been talking about midterm politics. you know, you look at -- you go back to, well, you go back even to bill clinton in '92. you go to come forward, president obama in '10,
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president trump in '18. all of them lost big in midterms. and i think the reason -- a lot of the reason for at is there's frustration, resentment and the direction of the country, and people e speaking out in frustration against the elected class, the par in power. >> bret: put the question is if they do lose, like if it was held tomorrow it would be a big red wave. did in '94 and change and kindn of use some republican policies to their own? you see that or you still see progressives running the democratic party. >> ihink progressives right now are the energy. but let me just say, joe biden is a moderate he's the head of the party for now, even the people may have skepticism about his future. he's the head of the party and he models sort of reasonableness, decency, empathy, and i think that that's the drive, but people on the democrat side oftentimes want him to be more aggressive because they see the republicans
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as the aggressors and biden is not fighting back, saying that mitch mcconnell is his body. >> bret: i say "we'll see" look on your face. >> the look is he's claimed to be a moderate but he's not governed as one and he's not going to change after this election, no it's answer box. he's going to say stuff where he is, which is unfortunate for him and unfortunate for the country. >> bret: panel, thank you very much, see you next sunday. up next, a final word on the week ahead and a special debate i am monitor monitor readi- moderating tomorrow between two of the nation's mostmeta welownm senators h. a 12-megapixel lens makes sure your presentation is crystal clear. and smart camera auto pans and zooms to keep you perfectly in frame. oh, and it syncs with your calendar. plus, with zoom, microsoft teams, and webex, you'll never miss a meeting. and neither will she. now that's a productive day. meta portal: make working from home work for you.
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