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due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. i've been down since 1993 for shooting my mom. >> an inmate with a haunted pass forges a brotherhood not often seen in prison. >> they wake me up at 5:00. we have to be at work at 6:00. >> a more sinister brotherhood attempts to spread. >> brotherhoods don't normally get on cameras. i really got tired of seeing rats in dropout speaking for the brotherhood.
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>> an inmate gets in over his head. >> i was in my cell, sitting in my cell, and i got rushed by two guys that came in and beat me up, and look -- >> everything that i have, and everything that i ever will have is in this cell. >> and using personal cameras provided by our producers, inmates speak their minds. >> i'm a member of the most one of despised, one of the most feared prison organizations to exist in this country.
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everybody hates us. but i'm here to tell you that we're a group of white men who are proud to be white. we make no a apologies for being white. and we have a code of honor that we live by. >> the aryan brotherhood is the largest gang at indiana state prison. to no longer be a member of good standing is to be in a very unfortunate position. >> i got jumped. >> by whom?
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>> it really is all have to do with gangs. i used to be in a gang. i used to be affiliated. this was the aryan brotherhood. i covered this up two years ago. i came into prison august 17th of 2006. i covered this up september of the same year. three weeks after me being in prison. i had a case with another aryan, which they say i told on them. i get down here and the same guys i supposedly told on are here in this prison. >> at the prison we've had a lot of problems with an aryan organization. the big problem is instead of fighting between each other, the whites and the blacks, what's been happening more recently is problems with the aryans going after each other. a lot of it is because of the influx within the organization, and their leadership.
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there's a struggle for control. >> since dropping out of the aryan brotherhood, nick compton says that's only one problem. >> i'm being extorted for money. >> yeah, no problem. >> compton is due to be released from prison in three months, but risks putting himself in greater danger with the aryan brotherhood by talking to internal affairs about his problems. >> the state says he's been extorted. if there is some truth to what he's stating then we will protect him. he goes home in february. our thing is to make sure that everyone goes home. at least in one piece anyhow. granted we could probably still protect him, but he might get other charges on whatever for providing false information.
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>> now ralph carrasco's crucial evidence. receipts from money orders that could support his claim that he and his family are being extorted by other inmates. >> my mom herself has sent over $200. plus since i've been here -- it's close to $400. >> from being a member. >> exactly. that was years ago. >> okay. >> so i mean all my problem in prison now it has to stem with me, bad choices i made when i was younger but -- >> they're coming back to haunt you. >> yeah. it's like leeches. always trying to suck the life out of anything i have, trying to get me for whatever i could. if you want to be around us this is what's going to happen. if you want to go to school, if you want us to leave you alone it's going to cost you. how much are you willing to pay
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for us to leave you alone? >> did you stop paying? that's why you got hit in the face? >> my sister is supposed to send a guy $65. come to find out she didn't send $65. >> that's because you owe money. >> because i'm paying for my -- >> your extortion. >> yeah. >> here's what we're going to do. wait for the information from your mom, okay? for the time being we're still going to be on key lock. not going to let you out. >> compton has a decision to make. if he stays in general population he's eligible to take classes to move his release date up by 90 days. but he's more vulnerable to attack. if he requests protective custody from the prison, he must serve the 90 days. >> that's your dilemma. >> whatever i have to do to make sure i can walk out the door and
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give my mom a hug, i got to do it. >> 90 days versus day -- >> i realize that. >> as a suspected snitch and an aryan brotherhood dropout. compton is the type of inmate that men like weaver despise. >> when i was a young kid if i told my brother i got beat for telling. we were taught in school at a young age don't be a tattle tale. nowadays they have cop shows on tv that teach these kids it's all right to tell. dial 1-800-snitch on mom and dad if they're smoking a joint on the weekend. >> though prison officials have not tied weaver to the extortion or recent assault, they have identified him as a high ranking member of the aryan brotherhood.
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>> i can't get into specifics. but i'll tell you that we're strong white men. we're proud of that. we don't hate anybody else, but if you hate us, we hate you ten times worse. if you hurt one of us, we're going to hurt you ten times worse. >> active members rarely speak about their affiliation on camera. this time weaver made an exception. >> i lost a little bit of sleep over it. doing this interview. brothers don't normally get on camera. but i talked to a lot of my guys here. brothers that i respect. they gave me the green light. to be frank, i really got tired of seeing rats and dropouts speaking for the aryan brotherhood. they don't speak for us. they're not real brothers or they wouldn't have dropped out. they're marked men. they're dead men walking.
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as well they should be. >> weaver's role in the brotherhood is one of the reasons he's been housed in the segregation unit, a lockdown unit. >> that was part of the reason why -- that's part of the reason why we sent him over there. >> just his activity and his influence over the population being a leader of -- within stg group is enough reason to keep him over there. just at that. he can call shots and make things happen and stand back in the shadows. >> they think i ordered a hit on somebody. how does that save that person? he's still going to get hit. if i had the authority to do that, which i don't. but my past haunts me. and it's bloody.
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>> coming up -- >> as far as the extortion, i think he's lying. >> nick compton's story comes under fire. and later -- we check in on one of the most memorable inmates to every appear on lockup. i
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>> always going on these shows and telling on each other. it's crazy. that's the worst thing you can do up in the joint, tell on somebody. >> one thing you don't do is snitch, be a child molester, or call somebody a name. that's very disrespectful. we don't like child molesters. we hate snitches. just plain and simple.
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if you don't like it, don't know what to tell you. >> i'm not sure what's going on. i've been in here waiting to see what's going to happen. >> nick compton claims his former gang, the aryan brotherhood has had him assaulted and is now extorting protection money from his mother. >> as far as the extortion, i think he's lying. >> why? >> we've not received any information about who the money was going to, phone numbers, addresses, none of that, receipts. things that we need that they said that they had to confirm that he was being extorted. >> miss compton, i'm calling you
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in reference to your son. i need that information that you said you had about the receipts, phone numbers and the people's names. if you could give me a call back at the prison i would greatly appreciate it. thank you very much. >> despite if influence, violence is rarely race related. >> i watched "lockup" on california where aryan is parts of the blacks. we don't have to segregate. we don't have problems. even when we have instances where whites have had problems with blacks and blacks have problems with whites, we can usually work it out and get it talked out so it doesn't escalate into something where we have to take a whole cell house and turn it into all whites and all blacks. we just don't have that problem. >> there's another form of integration at indiana state that goes beyond race.
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in the residential treatment unit, selected inmates with a history of good behavior live with and serve as mentors to inmates with mental health issues. >> you like working the job? >> yeah, i like it. >> mentors like harrell form a very different sort of brotherhood with inmates like frank street. >> they're like everybody else. some of them just like for you to listen. >> we live in the country. right next door to that is my grandma and grandpa. >> a lot of times i feel their pain. these guys have had just terrible history. it can get frustrating as far as how other people look at them. my job is to let them know that you can do anything you want to do, you know.
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>> street has had an especially challenging time. he's serving 45 years for his killing his mother during a schizophrenic episode. street first told producers of his story when he met him at the wabash correctional facility. we warn you. what you're about to hear is extremely graphic. >> i become delusional. they say insane. i thought you got to eat some of her brains for her to become part of you. i wasn't a sane person that did that back then. you don't eat brains if you're somebody that's sane. >> you miss your mother? >> can't bring her back. >> what he's done really don't worry me at all. i hope he'll be okay living with it. he has to live with something like that. >> donnegan sees potential in street.
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he arranged for street to get a job working with him as an assistant electrician. >> i started as an electrician trainee. i basically screw things in the wall right now and hold the ladder steady and clean up the messes. >> what's the red wire? >> i don't know what the white wire. >> that's common. >> red wire is hot. >> red is hot. >> black is hot. >> black is hot. what's your green wire? >> it's hot, too. >> green wire what? your ground wire. >> ground wire. >> right. >> so a lot of things -- but in this prison you might have the green wire as your hot wire. it's kind of old. make sure the power cut off before you start working on it. all right street, i'll see you in the morning for work.
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>> have a good night. >> he say he'll wake me up good and early. and he will. an hour early. i think mr. street will be okay. he'll be okay. he's just like any other person. he's got a great sense of humor. man, it's a blessing to know him, you know. >> mr. street is doing fantastically well. when i first met him he was just out of control, very aggressive, throwing substances, cursing, very hard to manage. he's really quite a different person now. >> reporter: the prison's mental health staff is so pleased they're consider moving him to general population. >> he's been working electrical for four weeks now. he goes back at the conclusion of the day. i think it's about time to look at moving him out of the e-dorm. >> he's been stable?
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>> been compliant. been working hard. >> we went out he sat out for a couple of hours. he had no problem. >> do we have a sense of how the other guys are responding to him being out and about like that? >> i think some of them are scared of him because of his crime. they've seen him at wabash. they don't seem to have problems. >> i'm worried about his side effects with involuntary movements and whether the others will perceive him as odd. >> the team, the team he's on, they're aware of it. they don't seem to have issues with it. i think he thinks he can succeed out there. >> anything else on mr. street? we can count him as one of our success stories for now. >> coming up -- >> make sure you know those receipts.
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>> a lot is running through my mind is to get out of prison. to get home. to be around civil, normal people. to be around my family. stop dealing with idiots. they can't break me. got too much strength, too much good things going my way. >> nick compton believes he's being targeted by his former gang and would prefer to be in --
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>> right now we're going to try to contact nicholas compton's mother again and see if she's able to come up with the stuff that she says she has. this is probably my guess -- i know it's been over five times i tried to contact her. >> compton's mother says she has receipts for the extortion payments. >> miss compton? >> yes, it is. >> miss compton, ralph carrasco from the prison. how are you doing? i'm still trying to get that information concerning these guys extorting you for nick. >> right. i have all them documents in front of me right now. >> i need them mailed in. without it, i'm not going to be able to do nothing. >> i'm a little bit leery. >> of what? >> not knowing what they're going to do.
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>> well as soon as we get nick safe we'll take care of it, all right? so are these people still calling you and trying to extort you? >> right. and evidently the one person got money not only from me but also from nick's sister. like she said to me when she found out nick got beat up, she says mom i feel like we just paid them to kick my brother's butt. >> who did you send the money to? >> the money order went to a person called -- it's in indiana. >> as soon as i get the information i'll be able to run the name and see who she's visiting. >> right. >> as soon as i get that information i'll be able to hurry up and get this done. i've been waiting for it. that's the only thing holding me up is this information that i need. okay?
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later compton decides to take matters into his own hands and calls his mother to encourage her to not delay sending the documents. >> yeah, do you understand the importance? i get threats every day. i got threatened twice today. just today. how am i supposed to know what they're going to do? they're capable of doing anything? make sure you mail those receipts out. you told me you were doing that like last week, didn't you? >> out in the open, compton draws the attention of other inmates who believe his decision to leave the aryan brotherhood means he's a snitch. >> all right. love you. see you soon. >> coming up -- >> i told them that you was
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>> due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. >> everything that i have, everything that i ever will have is in this cell.
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i went from having a nice house, inground pool, air conditioner in every room, tv in every room, nice car. to this is the rest of my life. look at this. there's my sink, my kitchen, my toilet, my bed. that's it. >> who is it? the administration. they just don't know it. a friend of mine out in population made it for me. it's made out of toilet paper. >> what's on the beck of the neck? >> the beast. he's a beast.
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>> though indiana state prison officials regard steven weaver as a high-ranking member of the aryan brotherhood, he's not the only member with reputation. >> my name is franklin street jr. i've been down since 1993 for shooting my mom. >> hopefully he can get the cell. that way he won't do nothing to his himself. >> reporter: the medications and therapeutic treatment have helped street enough that prison officials have decided he can be transferred to general population. >> i told them that you was ready and ready to go. street's mission here is accomplished, man. he passed all what he needed to pass. he's ready. i guess he was already ready to go before he got up here. i've been locked up almost six years and i got way more stuff than street. >> get some shower shoes. >> this cell is little. it's an open door.
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got no cage or nothing, but it's a lot more room. a lot more room to move around. he can go outside whenever he want to. play a little basketball. >> not me. >> been a long time coming getting out of here. >> street is not only going to have to adjust to a new home, but to a new mentor. >> this is frank street. going to be with him. he's going to take real good care of you, man. if you need anything, that's who you talk to. if you need me, call for me, i'll come down there. >> even though donnagan will not be street's mentor in e-dorm they will still see each other at work. street is his assistant. >> in the morning 6:00 shower. take care of yourself, okay. he going to wake you up in the morning. he work with you.
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>> get you an alarm clock. >> i wake him up, i'll say is it time to go yet. >> he wake me up at 5:00. we got to be at work at 6:00. street wakes me up at 5:00 every morning. so he can get the pleasure of getting up an hour early from mr. street. >> as frank street begins a new life in general population, correctional officers investigate a recent stabbing in d-east, administrative segregation. >> somebody i heard got stabbed. >> since he's currently in ad-seg, steven weaver is one of the inmates on the shakedown list. >> it will give you something to do after they're gone, put everything back. it's not a pain. i'm used to it. >> this is another place to hide things. stick it up in there and they'll hide hooks.
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it's a broken handle from a foot tray. they could sharpen it up, and this can become a weapon. >> might snatch the clown. they might illegaly kidnap my clown. find it, rescue it, take it wherever you have to take it. >> moments later his clown immediately comes under scrutiny. uh-oh, there comes the clown. they're checking him out. oh! >> scoping him out. >> what do you think? you worried about it? >> i don't keep anything in my cell. i've been doing this 20 years, man. >> if you're looking at something like that, what are you looking for? >> any kind of holes. you could feel if there's anything in there. there's nothing in there. just made out of toilet paper and painted.
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it's pretty sealed up. >> a short time later weaver is back in his cell. >> not bad at all. that was a pretty good one for a shakedown. no animosity there. they just come in, did their jobs and got out. >> what about the clown? >> the clown is safe. for now. tomorrow's another day. >> reporter: after being in prison for more than 20 years, weaver's thoughts have been clouded with far more serious issues than the safety of his clown. he explained on the personal camera provided to him by our producer. >> when i first started doing my bit the only thing i had on my mind wouz how many people could i kill when i got up in prison. i've kind of worked my way through that after ten years of ad-seg unit. now that i'm 51 years old i'm
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kind of figuring out that that might not be the way to go. but i can't escape my past. when i first came up in here i stabbed a couple of guys. could have easily killed one of them. i don't know how he lived. i don't know why he lived, but he did. >> nick compton hopes to survive another day himself. compton claims the aryan brotherhood has extorted his family for more than $500. he's finally received the money order receipts he's been requesting from compton's mother. they should serve as evidence of extortion or protection money to keep compton from being assaulted again. but he thinks they mean something else. >> we got receipts for your mom. >> okay. >> ain't no $400. comes out to about like $210.
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it don't say extortion, it says debt. that's what that says to me, because it's small amounts. extortion -- i've seen extortion here, they're hundreds of dollars. >> she's got hundreds of dollars in receipts. >> inmates often find themselveses in trouble when they accrue debt in prison. that's what he thinks happened to compton. the money order weren't for protection but for debt repayment. >> i'm going to give you one shot right now to tell me the truth. >> i am telling you the truth. >> look at me. >> dude how is that -- >> i've seen that before. i've been here quite a bit. i've seen debt. >> i've been here since june. >> exactly. i've been here since july of '89. >> my whole problem is not with me being in debt for tobacco, me
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being in debt because of drugs, my patrol whob is because of the aryan brotherhood. that's my problem. >> okay. and we're getting ready to rectify that. if i find out that this is a debt -- >> i don't owe anyone -- >> listen to me. if i find out -- if i find out -- listen to me. >> it will be taken care of. >> listen to me. listen to me. if i find out that this is a debt that you owe, we'll be talking again. >> all right. >> okay. >> though he has suspicions, he's decided to put him in a protective dorm until he finishes his investigation. >> whatever is going to happen is going to to happen. i have no control. i guess this is as safe as i can be right now. a lot safer than where i was. >> coming up -- >> some of the phone calls sounded like he was playing a game on his mom.
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>> crazy, wild -- [inaudible] i'm tough now. i got street credit. screw that. you're lame. go to school and better yourself. you just want to lift weights
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and hang out with your boys. [ bleep ] that. no education, doing the same bull [ bleep ]. that's why you come back. that's why you come back. >> after spending his first night in a general population dorm trank street did something he never does, he slept in. >> tons of people that i know from other prisons. that's why i slept so well because i stayed up so late talking to them. other than that everything is all right. >> you seem real happy. >> i am happy. yes, thank you. >> i want to follow up with him, make sure things are going well. and i want to talk with him about what his next step is. >> franky, good to see you. haven't seen you in a while. we're going to meet up in the office up there.
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>> yeah. >> haven't seen you in a while. >> yeah, been busy. you're always busy. >> run around a lot. >> making millions of dollars. >> millions and millions, yes. how is work going? >> i enjoy it. >> it's working well being in the dorm setting? >> yes. >> got friends over there? >> lots of them. they're very kind people over there. we play cards and make slams and eat pizzas. >> one of these days when i have a little courage i'll try one of those slams. i've heard a lot about them. >> street is a work in progress. >> things aren't progressing as well for nick compton. his claims that members of the aryan brotherhood are extorting his family for protection money
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have been discredited. >> i interviewed that supposedly the money orders are going to, and according to what they were telling me he was in debt. the one guy doesn't have any affiliations with no organizations whatsoever, which would rule out extortion theory. the other one, he gave compton to pay off a debt to keep him from getting hurt. it sounded like he was playing a game on his mom. >> how so? >> by telling her about the extortion to get the money to pay for his detds. it's common. they play their family like that all the time. he received a conduct report for it. >> he interviewed the two people -- or interviewed the address on the money order my mom sent up here. when he asked why is nick sending you money, obviously
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they're not going to say the true reason -- they're not going to tell on themselves. so the obvious reason is to say, yeah, he owed it to us for whatever reason it was. so ralph not believing what i had to say but believing them wrote me up for it instead. >> with mr. compton, this ain't the first time he's tried to pull something not only here but other facilities to try to get protective custodies. it's one of them things where he got caught up this time. i've got other information from other sources stating he likes to get in debt and can't pay his debt. that's a behavior thing. so what you do is discipline the behavior. that's what we're doing. he's still going to protective custody. we have to do something to protect him. he's going home here shortly. might be moved a little bit further back because of the conduct report. but that's not my decision. at this point compton's case is closed. >> later with the video came ra he provided compton expressed his feelings about the write-up.
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>> the end result on this situation right here, what's going to happen -- thrown away. thrown out. in the trash. >> the prison disciplinary board assessed compton with a loss of 60 days of good time, but suspended it pending good behavior. on the way back from the hearing an inmate begins yelling the threats. >> after securing compton in the dorm, his escort officer sergeant tibbles comes back out to investigate. >> while i was walking compton back to the dorm, he was threatened. his life was threatened. i'm looking for the guy who threatened him.
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i know he was short. a white guy with a blue cap on. i'm almost sure i know who it is. as soon as i see him i'll know exactly who it is. come here. >> what did i do? >> why don't we step over here for a second? >> i ain't got nothing. >> the inmate is identified as richard canada. his name was on some of the money order receipts turned in by compton's mother. >> turn around and tough up. >> for what? >> because i said so. >> are you serious? >> yeah, i'm serious. turn around and cuff up. let's go. you're going to your cell. >> for what? >> you know exactly what. >> no, i don't. what are you talking about? >> even though canada claims to not know why sergeant tibbles contain him, he soons slip to another inmate that he does know.
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>> how do you know it's from compton? because, that's the only thing it could be for. you guys can't save him forever, right. >> save him from what? >> what do you mean save him from what? don't play dumb. you know what he's doing around here. he's just a snitch, you know [ bleep ] try to do something to help him get out of some trouble, you know, and he's saying i did something wrong to him. i didn't never do nothing wrong to him. he had his mom take copies of the money order receipts that he september me, right. he sent me a money order receipt because i got him out of some trouble. >> i will have to go up front. i will have to write a conduct report for threatening and then take it to the captain's office. the lieutenant will write him up paperwork. then he'll be on confinement. >> coming up -- >> i'm here to tell you guys i
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did not do what they're accusing me of doing. >> steven weaver argues his case to get out of ad-seg. >> i didn't put a hit out on that guy. >> do you think you have a problem with that guy? >> that's something i'm not going to comment on.
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as a high-ranking member of the aryan brotherhood, steve has a reputation for being tough. we saw another side of him soon after a visit from his girlfriend. >> she comes a couple of times a year. it's like coming out of the darkness into the light. for a couple of hours. you know? and after it's over with you come back in the darkness, but
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the light still stays with you for a little while. >> today weaver has an opportunity to lift another layer of darkness. he has an appointment with the administrative segregation review board to argue his case for returning to general population. weaver has spent the last year in ad-seg after the prison received a tip that he had ordered an attack on another inmate. >> i know i have a bad past, and i'm an easy target for somebody who wants to manipulate internal affairs or you guys. they can use my game and it's like gold. i've come to terms with that. i'm here to tell you guys, i did not do what they're accusing me of doing. i had nothing to do with it. >> we all know you know the reason why you're basically over there. >> because i'm a member of the aryan brotherhood. >> that's basically the reason, right.
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>> and it's not just a member. a high-ranking member. you know that. >> i can't comment on anything like that. you guys know i know who the rat is. okay? if i was the person that you think i am, you think he would still be standing here today? standing out here in population, no, he wouldn't. but he still is. i didn't put a hit out on that guy. >> would we have a problem with that? do you think you have a problem with that guy? >> that's something i'm not going to comment on. i can't tell you honestly i don't know. you know what happens to rats. >> i'm going to tell you, steve. we're going to strongly look at you right now. we'll make a decision. whatever decision we make goes to the superintendent. he'll have the final say on it. >> i'm going to stay over here.
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there's just no way they're going to allow me to be out there. they're not stupid. neither am i. >> he's got a clear conduct. he's still calling shots. >> the problem i have with something like that is he's calling the shots. he's going to call that shot in d-east no matter where he's at. >> to be on the safe side he needs to stay where he's ha at. he can call the shots from where he is now, or if he gets out he can call the shots and do whatever. the reason for the clearer conduct is like you said he has somebody else doing it so he doesn't have to do anything. >> he thinks he's going to have to deal with the rat. if he does come out that he's going to try personally to take care of it himself. >> right now he needs to stay in d-east. if he comes out here he's going to have a problem.
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>> as weaver predicted, the board decide that had his role in the aryan brotherhood would make him too high a risk to return to general population. >> i guess that's about it. as you can see, this is no country club prison. there's nothing romantic about doing time. there's nothing cool about watching the years go by and knowing that most of them have been wasted. the next time one of your politicians talk about how easy we have it in there, just remember what i've shown you today and what i've said.

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